maybe im also starting to be brainwashed by the fluff on the Eagles site. It just seems that after McCoy sucked terribly last year that there has been nothing but great news about him since. What is the deal with this guy. Who believes McCoy is going to be a good player next year? He has shown nothing, yet the coaches all love the guy. Is it really just as simple as getting in shape and knowing the playbook a bit? Training camp cannot come soon enough.
QuoteWith a shot at winning the WILL linebacker spot, second-year man Matt McCoy obviously has a lot to play for this off-season. That's why he'll spend a few hours Tuesday reviewing mini-camp tape with linebackers coach Steve Spagnuolo.
McCoy ran with the first-team defense during the post-draft mini-camp and appears honed in on what he needs to do to put himself in position for 2006.
"In the off-season program, I've been training how they want me to train and studying how they want me to study," McCoy said. "It's helped a lot. You can tell when you watch practice.
"I'm pretty confident in what I'm doing right now. I feel pretty comfortable."
McCoy admittedly had no clue what was going on last year. Two things, he said, hampered him a year ago were his weight (he says he came in at about 245 pounds) and the playbook.
Now he has defined his body, made it a more lean 225 pounds. He's also getting in some mental conditioning, working with Spagnuolo three times a week.
McCoy knows he has to convince the coaching staff that he is good enough to play and to do the right things on the field. And for at least one mini-camp, that mission has been accomplished.
"There is no question he's a much different player out there. He's a lot more confident," said defensive coordinator Jim Johnson. "He struggled last year, but this year he knows everything and is playing with a lot of confidence. He's going to have plenty of opportunity to earn that starting spot.
"I don't know if it's a make-or-break year, but it is an important year for him. It's an important year for all of us, but it is an important year for him to show what he is."
Unlike so many of his 2005 draft classmates, McCoy struggled to show much during his rookie season. He played in just four games, mostly on special teams. All told, he finished the season with six special teams tackles and 34 special teams production points. He was also credited with 30 blocks.
However, the coaches did get a glimpse of what McCoy can do on defense in the season finale against Washington as he got on the field for a few snaps in the second quarter at the WILL linebacker position.
It was a frustrating time for the second-round draft pick.
"It was tough. I spent the year trying to learn the defense and I wasn't in the kind of shape I wanted to be in," said McCoy. "I didn't play as much as I wanted."
McCoy began his training five weeks before the team's off-season conditioning program officially began. He has remained in Philadelphia to dedicate himself to learning and mastering the defense.
"I've been getting into it and working to be bigger, stronger and faster," McCoy said. "I've been working my core, working my feet and getting in the playbook."
Standing at 5-foot-11, what McCoy lacks in size he makes up for with the speed and quickness needed to play a spot that requires a player to read and react and play with instincts, to have great cover ability and to play tough against the run.
It takes linebackers time to learn Johnson's scheme and to play well within it and McCoy is making good use of his time, conditioning both mind and body.
He believes it will pay off.
"I just expect to come in and compete and battle for the starting position," McCoy said. "I think my time's going to be this year."
sounds eerily similar to the sim spin of a few years ago
doesnt mean mccoy wont win the job...but i dont ever see him being anything more than a minimally productive nfl starting linebacker...and i certainly dont believe a word anyone in the eagles camp says about him...id be more than happy if he turns into a solid back-up LB and a great special teamer
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 17, 2006, 12:39:22 PM
id be more than happy if he turns into a solid back-up LB and a great special teamer
which would make him a bust.
well i hated the pick from day one...so in my mind its a foregone conclusion thats hes a bust/bad pick...anything positive they get out of him is a bonus and will make me happy at this point...im very easy to please
(http://www.concretefield.net/uploads/Mad-Lad/mccoy.jpg)
Are his eyes always like this, or was one dialated for some reason?
Jesus Christ that's farged up.
The coaches will pimp almost anyone. I don't believe a word of what they say. It would be great if McCoy turned into something, but I'm not holding my breath.
it probably has something to do with why he wears a visor.
Quote from: Sun_Mo on May 17, 2006, 12:47:52 PM
it probably has something to do with why he wears a visor.
I always assumed it was just to make him look tough.
lol...wtf?
Quote from: FFatPatt on May 17, 2006, 12:51:25 PM
I always assumed it was just to make him look tough.
i think you need to have a medical reason for it. that was my assumption anyway.
I see McCoy making the pro-bowl this season.
i have a pitcher on my softball team who only has one eye. i make fun of him routinely.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on May 17, 2006, 12:54:06 PM
I see McCoy making the pro-bowl this season.
Maybe you should get your vision checked out.
Quote from: Sun_Mo on May 17, 2006, 12:47:52 PM
it probably has something to do with why he wears a visor.
I wonder if he got McMahoned...the decent one not the slightly less gay the Garcia one.
Quote from: Mad-Lad on May 17, 2006, 12:46:04 PM
(http://www.concretefield.net/uploads/Mad-Lad/mccoy.jpg)
Are his eyes always like this, or was one dialated for some reason?
wow. dude is a terminator. secret weapon status gained.
Quote from: FFatPatt on May 17, 2006, 01:00:53 PM
Quote from: SD_Eagle on May 17, 2006, 12:54:06 PM
I see McCoy making the pro-bowl this season.
Maybe you should get your vision checked out.
I already wear glasses. And no, they're not tinted green.
Here's what I see with McCoy, he was drafted, fell behind, was out of shape. Put some work in this offseason and wants to contribute. Its hard to get excited over mini-camps, but if the early prognosis is that he's way ahead of last season, I'm at least encouraged that he might one day be a good player.
So somewhere between Spews homerism and igy's pessimism wherein lies the truth.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on May 17, 2006, 01:18:46 PM
So somewhere between Spews homerism and igy's pessimism wherein lies the truth.
Agreed. But saying he'll make the Pro Bowl is beyond Spads' homerism, not in between.
I was obviously only kidding about him making the pro-bowl. What do you take me for P/F Bunkley/thing?
In a crazy way I want him to pan out so I can look back at last years draft and say good job by our F/O. Even if you hit (Patterson, Brown, Moats, Herremans, Cole) on some decent picks there's always that naysayer bringing up the fact that one of our 2nds could have been better spent.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on May 17, 2006, 01:40:03 PM
What do you take me for P/F Bunkley/thing?
Occasionally, there are scary similarities.
Quote from: FFatPatt on May 17, 2006, 01:42:39 PM
Quote from: SD_Eagle on May 17, 2006, 01:40:03 PM
What do you take me for P/F Bunkley/thing?
Occasionally, there are scary similarities.
I've been called a Negadelphian before.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on May 17, 2006, 01:45:26 PM
I've been called a Negadelphian before.
Crazy people can call people names too.
Eh, don't feel too bad SD. Phreak got compared to Art a few days ago.
phreak is not art....hes our art
phreak is a work of art...not art
I always thought of the CF Art competition as a two horse'd race between Bunkley and PG.
pg wont criticize the eagles but doesnt make outlandish predicitons
phreak makes outlandish predicitons but will criticze at times
if you could combine the most homererotic traits from both and add in the power of a 1000 black holes they would maybe be in a discussion with art
i honestly dont think bunkley even believes half of what he says so i dont even count (or listen to) him
Quote from: SD_Eagle on May 17, 2006, 04:27:00 PM
Bunkley
Don't defame the name of our newest prized rookie by lumping him in with that piece of garbage.
If JJ says Mccoy can play, I'm going to trust him until proven otherwise.
Quote from: Bunkley78 on May 17, 2006, 04:36:14 PM
I'm going to trust him until proven otherwise.
Shocking.
The eye thing is overcompensation for camera-red eye. It's a red-eye reduction error, I'm sure.
Quote from: FFatPatt on May 17, 2006, 04:36:03 PM
Quote from: SD_Eagle on May 17, 2006, 04:27:00 PM
Bunkley
Don't defame the name of our newest prized rookie by lumping him in with that piece of garbage.
Quote from: Bunkley78 on May 17, 2006, 04:36:14 PM
If JJ says Mccoy can play, I'm going to trust him until proven otherwise.
As if almost on cue.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on May 17, 2006, 05:42:37 PM
As if almost on cue.
Now I'm thinking it almost has to be a clone.
I was thinking the exact same thing and you were my culprit.
Hmmm....I seem to be a topic of discussion lately. The Art thing hurt though. :'(
And "our Art" is PhillyForever.
I will criticize the team. And people hate my optimism. But thats cool.
I will wait to reserve judgement on McCoy once the season starts, but he obviously needs to improve by leaps and bounds to become a productive player. It is far too early to write his career off at this point (IGY)...though given the Eagles track record with LBs it is certainly understandable.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on May 17, 2006, 05:55:49 PM
I was thinking the exact same thing and you were my culprit.
I was actually on vacation last week and didn't once access the board. So, either he's for real, he's someone else's clone, or there are more than one of us who have access to the account to spam with homerism.
Sadly, I think he's for real.
I'm a homer, but not as bad as you make me out to be. I never take it to the point where I'm unrealistic.
As for my comment about trusting JJ, what exactly is homerish about it? You don't trust JJ? He's one of the best d coordinators in the league and has been at it for a long time.
No, I have no issue with that. I was referring to being the biggest homer on the board. I was called Art the other day and it hurt. Cut me deep. :-[
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on May 17, 2006, 11:56:21 PM
No, I have no issue with that. I was referring to being the biggest homer on the board. I was called Art the other day and it hurt. Cut me deep. :-[
Would that make you a Phart? :paranoid
Seriously, I am a homer to the extent that I pull for every member of my team while they're on my team- even TO last season: to the bitter end, I was hoping against hope that something would click, that the meds would kick in, and he'd settle himself down and become the greatest Eagles receiver in history. Did I expect it? No. But I was hoping.
I wish I could be as positive as you about this season. I just cannot, looking at what happened last season and the changes that are being made going into next season, be overly optimistic that the Eagles are assuredly going to "bounce back" and dominate like in prior years. There are just too many question marks in my mind to think 10-6 when they're coming off a 6-10 campaign.
But no matter what, I'll be hoping against hope once September rolls around.
Quote from: Bunkley78 on May 17, 2006, 10:30:48 PM
I'm a homer, but not as bad as you make me out to be. I never take it to the point where I'm unrealistic.
You just did. Again.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on May 17, 2006, 11:56:21 PM
No, I have no issue with that. I was referring to being the biggest homer on the board. I was called Art the other day and it hurt. Cut me deep. :-[
:-D
Apparently I am the biggest homer, and unarguably idiot, on the board. I've already made bets that the Eagles finish the season with a better record than the Dolphins or Bears.
Greg Richmond blah blah blah (http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/homeNewsDetail.jsp?id=48833)
Everyone has forgotten about linebacker Greg Richmond.
ha
Hey, it's a tough time of year. People want football news and insight...and there's just nothing to really say; right now, everything is all talk for the sake of talk.
spads spin knows no limits...its like the mailman
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 18, 2006, 01:47:09 PM
spads spin knows no limits...its like the mailman
I didn't realize Karl Malone is a spin artist.
From Spads' latest piece (on 2005 draft class):
QuoteWritten off by fools last year as a "bust," McCoy instead is preparing to take advantage of his opportunity. Then and only then will be know, after watching him play a lot, what kind of impact McCoy can have here.
That's quality writing, or not. Those "fools" could still be proven right, no?
Quote from: FFatPatt on May 20, 2006, 01:55:59 PM
That's quality writing, or not. Those "fools" could still be proven right, no?
Obviously, but they're still fools for writing him off after one season.
QuoteThen and only then will be know, after watching him play a lot, what kind of impact McCoy can have here.
Hell, we're still waiting to know what we have with McDougle. Anyway, I would think that after watching him play a lot we'd know what kind of impact he
had here.
Obviously, but they're still fools for writing him off after one season.
i wrote him off the minute he was drafted...whats that make me?
hes a soft batch surfer dood from san diego st...and you expect him to play linebacker in the nfl?...come on now
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 20, 2006, 09:18:45 PM
i wrote him off the minute he was drafted...whats that make me?
hes a soft batch surfer dood from san diego st...and you expect him to play linebacker in the nfl?...come on now
You think McCoy is
soft? If you honestly think that, there's no point in arguing about it, you've never seen him play.
from everything i've read about Mccoy he was a gritty guy who knocked snot out of RB's. He had i think 18 tackles against Michigan in Ann Arbor. I want him to get his shot. I dont think he'll be worse than Keith Adams so he's a plus in my book.
Quote from: Dillen37 on May 21, 2006, 10:47:10 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 20, 2006, 09:18:45 PM
i wrote him off the minute he was drafted...whats that make me?
hes a soft batch surfer dood from san diego st...and you expect him to play linebacker in the nfl?...come on now
You think McCoy is soft? If you honestly think that, there's no point in arguing about it, you've never seen him play.
McCoy's soft because he's a white linebacker. Can't have those in the NFL ::)
Quote from: Munson on May 21, 2006, 01:18:02 PM
McCoy's soft because he's a white linebacker. Can't have those in the NFL ::)
(http://images.usatoday.com/sports/nfl/_photos/2003-08-07-inside-urlacher.jpg)
WAR Whitey!
Everyone knows we are weak at linebacker, the Eagles are trying to trump a rook to make us feel better and make it look like they have control of the situation.
C'mon now, just three good linebackers and they've got a dominant defense.
We should've gotten Lavar Arrington and went back to the 3-4. ;D
We'll be fine once we pick up Carlos Emmons.
He'd be cheap, they like that around the Linc.
Barber, Emmons, that retard in the middle. It'll be just like old times. I wonder what Blaine Bishop is doing these days ...
He'd also be good. Which rules him out. The only people at the Linc who like good linebackers are the fans, and maybe a few of the players.
Not the linebackers though.
Of course not. The Eagles linebackers are like CEOs and all other overpaid good for nothings, they have a real low opinion of competition.
Quote from: General_Failure on May 21, 2006, 06:18:18 PM
Barber, Emmons, that retard in the middle. It'll be just like old times. I wonder what Blaine Bishop is doing these days ...
I spit soda on me. :-\
When thinking about McCoy, maybe Eagles fans should look back to 1998. Similar circumstances. A true Junior comes out of college. Very young kid. Plays linebacker at a small school. Gets drafted on the first day by the Eagles. Lots of hyperbole. The kid is deactivated for the first half of the season. His team is on it's way to a 3-13 record. Fans wonder why the new kid isn't playing when the team sucks so badly. He must suck even worse than what's out there.
Finally, the kid gets a chance on special teams. He doesn't exactly set the world on fire.
Fans consider him a bust. But the next year, 1999, the kid wins a starting job and goes on to become one of the team leaders and eventual probowl player. His name was Jeremiah Trotter.
Don't give up on McCoy. He was a true Junior who came out early.
Oh, he's the next Trotter? Well that's just farging great.
Quote from: waitingtoolong on May 23, 2006, 01:07:10 PM
When thinking about McCoy, maybe Eagles fans should look back to 1998. Similar circumstances. A true Junior comes out of college. Very young kid. Plays linebacker at a small school. Gets drafted on the first day by the Eagles. Lots of hyperbole. The kid is deactivated for the first half of the season. His team is on it's way to a 3-13 record. Fans wonder why the new kid isn't playing when the team sucks so badly. He must suck even worse than what's out there.
Finally, the kid gets a chance on special teams. He doesn't exactly set the world on fire.
Fans consider him a bust. But the next year, 1999, the kid wins a starting job and goes on to become one of the team leaders and eventual probowl player. His name was Jeremiah Trotter.
Don't give up on McCoy. He was a true Junior who came out early.
Good first post.
Shame any of it is a serious long shot to happen the same way.
Quote from: General_Failure on May 23, 2006, 01:11:37 PM
Oh, he's the next Trotter? Well that's just farging great.
Didn't say that. Just noting the similar circumstances. True Juniors often take a year or two to get used to the next level. McCoy could still end up being a bust, but not after one year. He was a beast at San Diego State.
When thinking about McCoy, maybe Eagles fans should look back to 1997. Similar circumstances. A true Junior comes out of college. Very young kid. Gets drafted on the first day by the Eagles. Lots of hyperbole. The kid is deactivated for the first half of the season. His team is it's way to a 6-9-1 record. Fans wonder why the new kid isn't playing when the team sucks so badly. He must suck even worse than what's out there.
Finally, the kid gets a chance on special teams. He doesn't exactly set the world on fire.
Fans consider him a bust. But the next year, 1998, the kid still sucks and goes on to several other teams where he sucks even more and becomes a career special teamer. His name was James Darling.
Give up on McCoy. He was a true Junior who came out early.
fixed
ha! well played.
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 23, 2006, 01:17:14 PM
His name was James Darling.
When there is a pathology of losing, it is understandable to take the pessimistic view. No problems.
We'll just have to wait and watch. Nothing else most of us can do on Autumn Sundays except watch the birds.
I don't know anything else.
i like this game...here's mine...
There was this kid I grew up with - he was younger than me. Sorta looked up to me - you know. We did our first work together - worked our way out of the street. Things were good, we made the most of it. During Prohibition - we ran molasses into Canada - made a fortune - you father, too. As much as anyone, I loved him - and trusted him. Later on he had an idea - to build a city out of a desert stop-over for GI's on the way to the West Coast. That kid's name was Moe Green - and the city he invented was Las Vegas.
There once as a man from Nantucket
Whose dick was so long he could suck it
He said with a grin
As he wiped off his chin,
"If my ear were a c#%+ I would f@#* it!"
so thats how that goes...
big praise for McCoy from Sheldon Browns Blog
Quote"When I look at our defense, I see a guy like McCoy and I can't help but notice how much he has improved. When you are a rookie you want to come in and impress everyone, especially if you're not from a school that wins national championships. You want to prove you are one of the big boys, and you can get caught in that stuff.
"Matt has worked hard in this off-season. He's a totally different player and I think he and Shawn Barber are going to have a good battle at linebacker. Matt has the respect of everyone here. Now he just has to go out there and relax and play ball, make plays, do the things he did in college to make the Eagles take notice of him.
Sheldon Brown's obviously a Lurie-lapper of the highest order!111!1
(Seriously, though, it's cool that he's willing to express some confidence in McCoy.)
sheldon's blog...on pe.com
pass the salt please
(http://www.mii.org/Minerals/Minpics1/Rock%20Salt.jpg)
hes so confident in mccoy that he believes he will give shawn barber a 'good battle'...sounds promising
QuoteEagles | McCoy penciled in as starter at WLB
Mon, 24 Jul 2006 16:12:19 -0700
Philadelphia Eagles WLB Matt McCoy has entered training camp penciled in as the team's starter at weakside linebacker.
and that pencil has a HUGE eraser
I'll tell ya man, he made some plays today at camp. Granted, it's camp and it's early. But, he looked good...real good.
Sal Pal didn't even watch training camp practices today, but he said McCoy was soft.
Also, I let jeffreyjpa drive my car over 60 miles today. I also met him today. I'm so trusting.
did you give him road head too?
Quote from: FFatPatt on July 25, 2006, 06:38:18 PM
Sal Pal didn't even watch training camp practices today, but he said McCoy was soft.
Also, I let jeffreyjpa drive my car over 60 miles today. I also met him today. I'm so trusting.
don't forget, you called me everytime you thought you did something mildly amusing
once again mccoy cant play in this league...one day people will learn this and stop analyzing every training camp read he makes and talking about how hes gonna improve the lb corps
You sound like Sal Pal.. who was there yesterday, but really wasn't watching practice at all... then declared McCoy "soft" and said he couldn't get off blocks.
Knowledge is king, dook. Get some of it before forming your bombastic opinions, from time to time.
talk to me in three years son when hes at best a decent back up and a great special teamer...tho knowing andy reid he could also be a horrible starter for the eagles
We should all give our opinions in absolutes from now on. It's refreshing...
Quote from: Phanatic on July 26, 2006, 12:32:26 PM
We should all give our opinions in absolutes from now on. It's refreshing...
Like rjs' miserable attitude, no... it's not.
From my perspective McCoy looked fricken awesome yesterday.
He came over for a water break and the coach asked him how he was doing.
His reply: "I want more."
You should have seen the look in the kid's eyes. :-D
The look you saw was dehydration. He wanted more water, dickwad.
lololol
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 26, 2006, 07:25:27 PM
lololol
I love internet speak.
"laughingoutloudoutlaughingoutloud" = Awesome!
Quote from: Diomedes on July 26, 2006, 07:20:01 PM
The look you saw was dehydration. He wanted more water, dickwad.
No it wasn't, you farging idiot.
Quote from: Diomedes on July 26, 2006, 07:20:01 PM
The look you saw was dehydration. He wanted more water, dickwad.
You nailed that one. That guy loves to hear himself talk. I doubt he was even at camp......
I know that Dio's joke was a bad one, not worthy of a smile or any sort of laughter, but are you guys really this awful at picking up on the fact that he was kidding? Jesus.
Quote from: ttllabtoof on July 27, 2006, 08:47:21 AM
Quote from: Diomedes on July 26, 2006, 07:20:01 PM
The look you saw was dehydration. He wanted more water, dickwad.
You nailed that one. That guy loves to hear himself talk. I doubt he was even at camp......
I see someone forget their meds this morning.
:-D
but are you guys really this awful at picking up on the fact that he was kidding
you mean wasnt actually dehydrated?
who told you?
Quote from: rjs246 on July 27, 2006, 08:51:59 AM
I know that Dio's joke was a bad one, not worthy of a smile or any sort of laughter, but are you guys really this awful at picking up on the fact that he was kidding? Jesus.
It was the Dickwad portion that he nailed. Obviously the look of dehydration part was a joke.
were you planning on adding anything of substance? or just continuing your rants about the evils of RazorGator and the Eagles?
It was the Dickwad portion that he nailed
yup
shtein like that cracks me up
then again im a simpleton
even funnier tho is romey trying to portray matt mccoy as some kind of rabid wildebeast who is going to eat running back organs this year
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 27, 2006, 09:09:52 AM
even funnier tho is romey trying to portray matt mccoy as some kind of rabid wildebeast who is going to eat running back organs this year
Do wlidebeasts eat organs? And what are their contract demands?
I'm not trying to portray anything. I saw what I saw, IGY, and I heard what I heard.
I was farging five feet away from him and like Phreak said he was flying all over the field on Tuesday hitting everything in sight.
He looked great out there in the few hours I saw him practicing. I'm not saying he's going to be the second coming of Lawrence Taylor, I'm just saying he looked pretty damn good out there.
"i want MORE!!!"
arggghhhhhhhhhh!!!!
I doubt your sincerity?
oh werd? is the new I doubt your sincerity?
try to keep up dunn
oh werd?
And what would be the proper response to "oh werd?"
"Cram it."
And what would be the proper response to "oh werd?"
hmmmm....good point
larry bird?
Best playa eva, ya hear?
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 27, 2006, 09:26:46 AM
And what would be the proper response to "oh werd?"
hmmmm....good point
werd to larry bird?
run it.
Bird is da werd.
I boo the last twenty posts on this thread, and much to your collective chagrin will not be opening it again.
QuoteMcCoy is feeling at home
By Marc Narducci
Inquirer Staff Writer
Eagles linebacker Matt McCoy admits that last year, he knew where he wanted to go but didn't have the slightest idea how to get there.
A second-round draft choice from San Diego State, McCoy spent most of his time on the sideline, learning the complex defense.
He was inactive for 12 games and not very active even when he made four appearances. McCoy's highlight was a special-teams tackle against San Diego.
Still, the Eagles were committed to the 5-foot-11, 230-pound McCoy, opting not to re-sign Keith Adams, who had started all 16 games at weakside linebacker last season.
McCoy's second season had a much more promising start than his first. In Sunday's 24-10 victory over the host Houston Texans, McCoy was credited with eight tackles, seven of them solo. He also forced a fumble and broke up a pass. The only Eagle with more tackles was Jeremiah Trotter, who had nine.
"It was a great confidence game for Matt," said Jim Johnson, the Eagles' defensive coordinator. "He made some nice hits and read screens well."
McCoy, 23, played like someone who was much more comfortable in his environment.
"Last year, I didn't know what I was doing," he said. "I was freelancing, and this year I am staying within the scheme and making plays in it."
If McCoy had failed to pick up the system this year, the Eagles had a safety net in linebacker Shawn Barber, a nine-year veteran who was signed as a free agent from Kansas City.
Barber's initial message to McCoy was not to look over his shoulder.
"I told him they brought me here not to replace you, but to make you better and take you to the next level," Barber said. "I pushed him all training camp and all preseason."
Barber has been an invaluable resource, McCoy said. The two watch countless hours of film together, with Barber doing most of the talking.
"I think that last year, Matt was so fast and aggressive that he would overrun things," Barber said. "I told him to slow the game down and allow the game to come to you, and when you do that, you will be ready to make big plays."
McCoy's first big play came late in the first quarter with the Eagles trailing, 7-0, when he tackled Wali Lundy for a 5-yard loss on a short pass up the middle.
The Texans punted three plays later, and the Eagles scored the tying touchdown on the next series.
"He played the kind of game that showed why we drafted him," Johnson said. "He is a physical guy who we turned loose a couple of times, and he made some nice hits."
McCoy's teammates are impressed by his perseverance after a difficult first year.
"Coach Johnson's defense is not exactly easy to pick up," said Dhani Jones, the starting strongside linebacker. "It's a testament to Matt, the way he picked things up."
Barber laughed when it was suggested that he seemed like a proud parent watching McCoy's development. But Barber had an immediate message for McCoy after the game: A player is only as good as his next outing.
"When you do well, don't ever think you have arrived," Barber said.
Besides being the weakside linebacker, McCoy also participated on special teams. "I wasn't as tired as I thought I would be," he said.
What was really tiring was practicing all week and rarely getting the chance to play last season. But McCoy kept his nose stuck in the playbook.
"I would have indecision and get a little confused because there was so much going through my head last year," he said. "That is the big difference between this year and last year."
ebony and ivoreeeeee.....
sounds like someone is conflicted
I always liked the Murphy's Law version of that song.
Good ska band.
Good ska band - oxymoron
you - gay
igy how well/badly do you think McCoy played?
he played real well....i just wish hed stop trying to fist fight after every play
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 13, 2006, 03:06:57 PM
he played real well....i just wish hed stop trying to fist fight after every play
He can't help it man. That's his ghetto side trying to come out.
thats the shawn barber comin out him youngin
dats wut im sizzayin kid. you gotsta lern how 2 reed b'tween dem linez son.
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 13, 2006, 02:54:31 PM
Good ska band - oxymoron
you - gay
You're so tough. I want to be buddies with you. Let's hug.
just a heads up...by "hug" RJS means "have unlubricated anal sex"
i learned this the hard way
And yet it took him three or four times to learn... I think someone was liking it more than they let on.
Liar. If you had anal sex with SunMo you would damn well remember exactly how many times you did it.
It was nice to see McCoy have a solid game, but the lack of depth at LB is obviously still scary.
Way to come back and steer this thread back on topic.
Yay McCoy.
Quote from: mpmcgraw on September 13, 2006, 07:26:57 PM
It was nice to see McCoy have a solid game, but the lack of depth at LB is obviously still scary.
Scary is the lack of depth at KR, PR, CB, or RB. It's not as scary at LB because the first team guys aren't that great.
Yes, but if our bad first string linebackers beat out our bad second string linebackers there is no telling how bad the second string linebackers really are.
Who is the PR/KR on this team that doesnt suck?
Mahe.
Damn, I completely forgot about him.
KR?
Quote from: mpmcgraw on September 13, 2006, 08:13:17 PM
Who is the PR/KR on this team that doesnt suck?
Maybe like that Westbrook guy - he's pretty good, if you're in to 5'8" backs known to only need one key block to take it to the house from anywhere on the field.
OK, smart ass but we both know he is not going to be the regular KOR guy anytime soon.
That Dexter Wynn is going to take it to da house this weekend.
Hell yes.
Smoke another.
We both know I wasnt being serial.
I dont think it is a stretch to say that the first string KOR is worse than the first string linebackers.
im not sure why but i still have faith in d wynn and think if he gets his chances this year he will bust one (or close to it)...i loved what i saw of him at TC two years ago...as a cornerback tho yikes hes really awful
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 14, 2006, 08:17:01 AM
im not sure why but i still have faith in d wynn and think if he gets his chances this year he will bust one (or close to it)...i loved what i saw of him at TC two years ago...as a cornerback tho yikes hes really awful
A poor man's Allen Rossum?
I guess I'm kinda in that boat to where I don't mind him returning kicks, because he'll probably be better than Perry was (or what he showed against Houston, anyway)... but I know I'll be scared shteinless every time he runs on the field to take a snap at CB.
A poor man's Allen Rossum?
yeah exactly...hes got that same extra little burst getting thru the hole and he can shake people real nice
seems that he doesnt have the same confidence in (pro) games that he had in camp and college...he too often is unsure of himself...if he can get past that i think he can do some good things
I may be in the minority, but after 2 games McCoy has looked pretty good.
You're not alone SD. He has been all over the place. I love his tenacity. He's always hustling to the ball carrier and throwing his body around. I love what I'm seeing.
Quote from: Don Ho on September 20, 2006, 04:04:48 PM
You're not alone SD. He has been all over the place. I love his tenacity. He's always hustling to the ball carrier and throwing his body around. I love what I'm seeing. For a white guy
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If he was even Mexican or something, they'd be 2-0.
yeah but their defense would be ranked a lot higher than 20th
Hmm. That is a pretty sweet ranking. We'd better leave him white.
In 2 games, he has 10 tackles, 2 TFL, FF, and a pass defended. 4 more plays than Keith Adams last year. Awesome.