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Title: best offseasons
Post by: ice grillin you on May 11, 2006, 01:15:04 PM
AFC rankings


http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=ApC.0IYr7GbO0ClUD4E9Mv9DubYF?slug=cr-afcrankings051006&prov=yhoo&type=lgns
Title: Re: best offseasons
Post by: NGM on May 11, 2006, 01:29:08 PM
Thats not really even a ranking of best offseasons.  Its more like his preseason power ranking. 
Title: Re: best offseasons
Post by: reese125 on May 11, 2006, 01:32:00 PM
thats pretty funny they can put the chargers 5th with an unknown QB in Rivers--ahead of NE and Jacksonville. They instantly take a step back not forward, plus an aging McCardell..cmon.

Miami should be there. I think they take big strides with Culpepper this year
Title: Re: best offseasons
Post by: ice grillin you on May 11, 2006, 01:42:32 PM
im not saying i agree with him but its not whos a better team its who had the better offseason....and he did say this...

but Philip Rivers will be the key to success. If he falters, the Chargers will struggle to make the playoffs.
Title: Re: best offseasons
Post by: reese125 on May 11, 2006, 01:52:18 PM
am I the only one that thinks that the Raiders will be a much improved team with Aaron Brooks. I think he brings much more to the table than Collins. The only reason I think he did so poorly in NO was the OL was shredded, no RB and No Joe Horn for the heavy bulk of the season.

How can a QB flourish under those circumstances--you'll get predictable and picked apart by opposing dfenses--and thats exactly what happened. I think he revives his career with those receivers and a rising Lamont Jordan. Anyone else?
Title: Re: best offseasons
Post by: ice grillin you on May 11, 2006, 01:56:23 PM
i think the change of scenery could really help brooks...but im the only one...everyone else despises him...i wanted him as the eagle back up
Title: Re: best offseasons
Post by: Wingspan on May 11, 2006, 01:58:06 PM
i dont despise him at all.

i just am fairly certian that arron brook sucks.
Title: Re: best offseasons
Post by: General_Failure on May 11, 2006, 02:04:54 PM
He may suck, but he's got an arm.
Title: Re: best offseasons
Post by: reese125 on May 11, 2006, 02:06:21 PM
Quote from: Wingspan on May 11, 2006, 01:58:06 PM
i dont despise him at all.

i just am fairly certian that arron brook sucks.

and your reason for that is?
Title: Re: best offseasons
Post by: ice grillin you on May 11, 2006, 02:09:21 PM
well he was pretty bad in new orleans..cant argue that...i just think he still has some upside and in the right situation with the proper guidance i think he could do ok...iin NO he had zero support from an incompetant coaching staff...i think he could hve been perfect as the eagle back-up...id definitely rather have him than garcia right now

Title: Re: best offseasons
Post by: Wingspan on May 11, 2006, 02:11:52 PM
Quote from: reese125 on May 11, 2006, 02:06:21 PM
Quote from: Wingspan on May 11, 2006, 01:58:06 PM
i dont despise him at all.

i just am fairly certian that arron brook sucks.

and your reason for that is?

ive seen him throw away games in the 4th qrt probably at least a dozen times. his lifetime sub 80.0 qb rating. despite having a decent supporting cast. maybe it's the 60 or so career fumbles....
Title: Re: best offseasons
Post by: Zanshin on May 11, 2006, 02:12:23 PM

Quote[...id definitely rather have him than garcia right now


Hmmmm...tough call.  I can see that in some ways, but Brooks always comes up smallest in the greatest times of need, and that's a bad quality to have in a backup, for sure.
Title: Re: best offseasons
Post by: reese125 on May 11, 2006, 02:31:11 PM
Quote from: Wingspan on May 11, 2006, 02:11:52 PM
Quote from: reese125 on May 11, 2006, 02:06:21 PM
Quote from: Wingspan on May 11, 2006, 01:58:06 PM
i dont despise him at all.

i just am fairly certian that arron brook sucks.

and your reason for that is?

ive seen him throw away games in the 4th qrt probably at least a dozen times. his lifetime sub 80.0 qb rating. despite having a decent supporting cast. maybe it's the 60 or so career fumbles....

Hes no Montana but does Culpepper suck because he fumbles...cmon Wing. The guy has a canon and throws TD's--like 113 TD in 5 years (2001-2005), compared to your boy Donny Mac who has 105. Now if you compare INT's--McNabb is better for sure. My point is, with the new coordinator, better receivers, very good RB he still gives them a better chance to win than the boring Collins.

Title: Re: best offseasons
Post by: Wingspan on May 11, 2006, 02:59:28 PM
Quote from: reese125 on May 11, 2006, 02:31:11 PM

Hes no Montana but does Culpepper suck because he fumbles...cmon Wing. The guy has a canon and throws TD's--like 113 TD in 5 years (2001-2005), compared to your boy Donny Mac who has 105. Now if you compare INT's--McNabb is better for sure. My point is, with the new coordinator, better receivers, very good RB he still gives them a better chance to win than the boring Collins.



from my memory...collins has a much better playoff record than brooks.

look beyond the stats...brooks is one of the biggest choking QBs in the NFL...he's led the saints to 2 above .500 seasons in his career.
Title: Re: best offseasons
Post by: reese125 on May 11, 2006, 03:03:40 PM
your right I was, and I understand where your coming from a stat point--but you see it so much in sports--changing environments, different players, increased performance, better stats--contract. I just think with the best receiver in the game, the supporting cast he has and the offensive staff--he makes strides...thats all. well see
Title: Re: best offseasons
Post by: Diomedes on May 11, 2006, 03:08:33 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 11, 2006, 01:56:23 PM
i think the change of scenery could really help brooks...but im the only one...everyone else despises him...i wanted him as the eagle back up

You weren't alone.  I said as much myself, and was similarly excoriated for it.
Title: Re: best offseasons
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 12, 2006, 03:19:03 AM
Aaron Brooks will be listed as the cause of death on Al Davis' death certificate.

Once Skeletor sees him play, he will die.
Title: Re: best offseasons
Post by: Geowhizzer on May 12, 2006, 06:20:09 AM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on May 12, 2006, 03:19:03 AM
Aaron Brooks will be listed as the cause of death on Al Davis' death certificate.

Once Skeletor sees him play, he will die.

Oh, so he will help the Raiders...
Title: Re: best offseasons
Post by: mussa on May 12, 2006, 09:15:52 AM
Aaron Brooks smells
Title: Re: best offseasons
Post by: Feva on May 12, 2006, 10:39:17 AM
Here's the NFC side.  He REALLLLY likes the NFC East. (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=AukGBKTv1mZ.mhqNQwZX.s9DubYF?slug=cr-nfcrankings051206&prov=yhoo&type=lgns)


Quote12. Minnesota Vikings – The Vikings are loaded with talent, but depending on soon-to-be 38-year-old Brad Johnson for an entire season is a huge risk, particularly with Mike McMahon as the likely backup. And while Ben Leber and Chad Greenway are good additions to the corps of linebackers, there still isn't a player in the group who can take a blocker head on and blow up a running play.

:-D