This draft was by far the best since 2002 and it could be the best ever for Reid. They got a disruptive pass rushing DT who is built like a brick shteinhouse in the first. A position of need to go along with Bunkley being the best rated guy on the board at the time.
The pick of Justice at 39 was awesome. He was projected to be a #1 pick and he dropped. Now he'll be pissed off and come in with a chip on his shoulder to knock people out moreso than if he had been a #1 - just to prove himself.
The Gocong pick is a solid one and it fits with what every Eagles fan said we needed - playmakers on the defensive side of the ball. So we have a potential replacement for Dhani who also can rush from the edge and dominate on STs.
Max Jean-Gilles was a steal in the 4th. With Hicks being traded it opens up the competition for LG. And as much as I liked Artis, he sucked last year. Sucked real bad. So Todd Herremans, Winston Justice, MJG and Adrien Clarke will compete for the LG spot and maybe MJG can give Jackson a run at C.
Jason Avant and Jeremy Bloom address the WR depth and Bloom gives them a solid PR and KR guy to pair with Bruce Perry. I wasn't too high on Avant but we'll see how he works out. He's got some size and he could be one of those guys, like Gocong, who is just a football player. Who cares about the numbers when you can make plays.
Omar Gaither addresses the STs and LB depth and LaJuan Ramsey is a nice project DT from USC.
Overall this was an excellent two days for the Birds. I would've liked to see a QB and RB though. But UDFA is something to watch for too.
1st Round 14th overall - Brodrick Bunkley - DT - Florida State - 6'0 307
2nd Round 39th overall - Winston Justice - OT - USC - 6'6 320
3rd Round 71st overall - Chris Gocong - LB/DE - Cal Poly - 6'2 264
4th Round 99th overall - Max Jean-Gilles - OG - Georgia - 6'5 355
4th Round 108th overall - Jason Avant - WR - Michigan - 6'0 213
5th Round 147th overall - Jeremy Bloom - WR/RS - Colorado - 5'9 172
6th Round 168th overall - Omar Gaither - LB - Tennessee - 6'1 233
6th Round 204th overall - LaJuan Ramsey - DT - USC - 6'2 296
My grade: solid A
MJG and Jeremy Bloom are in Kipers Top Day Two Gems list....
I did some research after the last pick, im not going to post it in the "College Players the Eagles are interested in" because theres no reason to bump it all the way to the top, but the Eagles reportedly had interest in Justice, Jean-Gilles, Ramsey, Avant, Bunkley, and Bloom.
EDIT - I just realized that maybe I shouldnt have done 20 minutes of research after, and just looked at that thread. Probably would have been easier.
Quote from: Dillen37 on April 30, 2006, 04:54:04 PM
I did some research after the last pick, im not going to post it in the "College Players the Eagles are interested in" because theres no reason to bump it all the way to the top, but the Eagles reportedly had interest in Justice, Jean-Gilles, Ramsey, Avant, Bunkley, and Bloom.
Reportedly is the key word.
A-
Would've been an A+ if we'd gotten a big RB
A+
I agree with PP54, great great draft. They got the #1 guy I wanted, which is great, because that never happens with me. I would've loved it if they found a way to get a proven vet at receiver, but that's life. The draft still remains an A+ grade from me. Not only did they get steals, but they got players at positions of need. Plus they were aggressive, and got great value picks. I've said before value is overrated, but it isn't completely useless, and is icing on the cake. The Eagles got their cake and ate it too this weekend.
Very good draft for this front office.
I know it's tiring to hear, but you do win football games in the trenches. You need playmakers too, but it starts in the trenches. It's the reason the Eagles lost the Superbowl, and the reason the Patriots beat us. They dominated the trenches. We highly upgraded both lines this offseason with the draft and free agency. We should have top defensive and offensive lines next year, and depth to boot.
Now all we need is maybe to add a WR through june 1st cuts, and maybe a SAM until Gocong can be ready to play and we are all set.
The difference between this draft and the 2002 draft is that most people were fairly critical of that draft. This draft by most counts has been very good, I can't wait to get your reports from TC Phreak. This draft has potential to be awesome, I think the first two picks are locks to be studs. Jean-Giles is right up there also. I just can't say enough good things about this draft, my only issue was them taking Ramsey just because they already have so many players there in the middle. Maybe they are looking to get rid of Rayburn to.
A: there's no way you can not give this draft class an A. We addressed needs, got great value, and picked great players.
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on April 30, 2006, 05:00:44 PM
The difference between this draft and the 2002 draft is that most people were fairly critical of that draft. This draft by most counts has been very good, I can't wait to get your reports from TC Phreak. This draft has potential to be awesome, I think the first two picks are locks to be studs. Jean-Giles is right up there also. I just can't say enough good things about this draft, my only issue was them taking Ramsey just because they already have so many players there in the middle. Maybe they are looking to get rid of Rayburn to.
I think the main difference is then we drafted for the future, and this year we drafted for now. Every guy we drafted for the most part can come in and start or contribute this upcoming season.
B+
would be an A+ if not for the horrible gocong pick
A
The first two picks alone make it an A. The rest is just gravy.
Bunkley at 14 was awesome. They knew what they were doing when they didnt trade up for a DT. This guy is a steal at 14 and is going to be huge for the defense. Tons of sacks this year. We have probably 5 or 6 guys that could get 5 sacks this year. Bunkley and Patterson will get constant pressure up the middle, I just hope Bunkley doesnt blow out a knee.
Justice at pick 39 is awesome. I was so surprised he fell that far. There were so many times where it seemed like a lock that he would have been taken. Eagles get two top 15 players.
I didnt like the Gocong pick at first, but then realized he'd play SLB. Then I loved the pick. He has some trouble shedding blocks though, but he'll get better. I dont think its out of the question that he will start this year, although not likely. He'll dominate STs for now.
I always thought Max Jean-Gilles was overrated. When I saw him in the beginning of the year he was real inconsistent. I dont care one bit, getting him at pick 99 is a steal. Overrated doesnt mean he sucks.
I do like the Avant pick, and I dont like it. I like it because it shows the Eagles want to win now. He probably has the lowest bust potential, besides Mike Hass. He wont ever turn out to be great, but he will be real solid.
I love the Jeremy Bloom pick. He will be a beast on kickoffs and punts. He is so ridiculously quick. Skiing will have helped him, he's really good at staying on his feet. In 2 years at Colorado, he had 5 TDs that were 75+ yards. Reid said they're going to try to work him into WR too.
Gaither is fine. He could play all 3 LB positions. Didnt like it at first, I just dont like LBs from the SEC. No reason why, but I think he'll be alright. Jason Short is gone.
Didnt like the Ramsey pick much, I'd rather have Rod Wright because if he gets his shtein together he can be real good. Would have rather had a QB or RB. Mike Bell hasnt even been picked yet.
Grade : A
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 30, 2006, 05:03:43 PM
B+
would be an A+ if not for the horrible gocong pick
Don't like that pick huh? What do you know about the guy?
I personally give this draft a solid A, the only reason I didn't give them an A+ is because they didn't take a QB or big back with their final selection.
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on April 30, 2006, 05:06:43 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 30, 2006, 05:03:43 PM
B+
would be an A+ if not for the horrible gocong pick
Don't like that pick huh? What do you know about the guy?
I personally give this draft a solid A, the only reason I didn't give them an A+ is because they didn't take a QB or big back with their final selection.
He knows he's a white LB so that's all IGY needs to know.
Quote from: Dillen37 on April 30, 2006, 05:05:13 PM
Bunkley at 14 was awesome. They knew what they were doing when they didnt trade up for a DT. This guy is a steal at 14 and is going to be huge for the defense. Tons of sacks this year. We have probably 5 or 6 guys that could get 5 sacks this year. Bunkley and Patterson will get constant pressure up the middle, I just hope Bunkley doesnt blow out a knee.
Justice at pick 39 is awesome. I was so surprised he fell that far. There were so many times where it seemed like a lock that he would have been taken. Eagles get two top 15 players.
I didnt like the Gocong pick at first, but then realized he'd play SLB. Then I loved the pick. He has some trouble shedding blocks though, but he'll get better. I dont think its out of the question that he will start this year, although not likely. He'll dominate STs for now.
I always thought Max Jean-Gilles was overrated. When I saw him in the beginning of the year he was real inconsistent. I dont care one bit, getting him at pick 99 is a steal. Overrated doesnt mean he sucks.
I do like the Avant pick, and I dont like it. I like it because it shows the Eagles want to win now. He probably has the lowest bust potential, besides Mike Hass. He wont ever turn out to be great, but he will be real solid.
I love the Jeremy Bloom pick. He will be a beast on kickoffs and punts. He is so ridiculously quick. Skiing will have helped him, he's really good at staying on his feet. In 2 years at Colorado, he had 5 TDs that were 75+ yards. Reid said they're going to try to work him into WR too.
Gaither is fine. He could play all 3 LB positions. Didnt like it at first, I just dont like LBs from the SEC. No reason why, but I think he'll be alright. Jason Short is gone.
Didnt like the Ramsey pick much, I'd rather have Rod Wright because if he gets his shtein together he can be real good. Would have rather had a QB or RB. Mike Bell hasnt even been picked yet.
Grade : A
I think this team needs a guy who can come in and contribute right now. I think the long-term solution with WR for us is through other means.
If the Eagles had only selected Bunkley & Justice the grade would have been an A. Adding Gocong & Jean-Gilles were strokes of genius on their part. I loved the Bloom pick too and was satisfied with the Avant pick as well. I wanted Brandon Marshall but Avant played in front of 100,000+ every weekend at Michigan and was highly productive as a senior there. The more I think about it, Avant was a better selection than Marshall.
An absolutely spectacular draft. It could turn out to be one of the best ever for the Birds.
Final Grade: A+
QuoteI love the Jeremy Bloom pick. He will be a beast on kickoffs and punts. He is so ridiculously quick. Skiing will have helped him, he's really good at staying on his feet. In 2 years at Colorado, he had 5 TDs that were 75+ yards. Reid said they're going to try to work him into WR too.
This pick right here is what makes this an A draft for me. I was sitting in my chair when they came up for this pick saying:"pick Bloom, pick Bloom." I literally jumped out of my chair when they took him. His value as a number 4 receiver is underrated here too.
QuoteI didn't like the Gocong pick at first, but then realized he'd play SLB. Then I loved the pick. He has some trouble shedding blocks though, but he'll get better. I didn't think its out of the question that he will start this year, although not likely. He'll dominate STs for now.
All I have to say about this pick and why I like it is: Farg you Dhani. Farg you for flicking off my brother, farg you for strumming your goddamn banjo, farg you for dancing in the streets, and farg you for sucking. GOODBYE.
This draft would have been an A+ of they had drafted a QB but thats something that can be addressed later.
I'd like to see the list of developmental QB's after the draft is over. If I see the words "Marcus Vick" and "Eagles" in the same sentence, I will not be a happy camper, however.
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on April 30, 2006, 05:17:25 PM
I'd like to see the list of developmental QB's after the draft is over. If I see the words "Marcus Vick" and "Eagles" in the same sentence, I will not be a happy camper, however.
Possible QBs for UDFAs (as of 5:18):
Basanez, Brett 6-1 219 Northwestern
Hackney, Darrell 6-0 238 Alabama-Birmingham
Meyer, Erik 6-1 209 Eastern Washington
Nealy, Barrick 6-4 227 Texas State
Pinegar, Paul 6-5 231 Fresno State
Vick, Marcus 6-0 201 Virginia Tech :poison
Quote from: Geowhizzer on April 30, 2006, 05:20:33 PM
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on April 30, 2006, 05:17:25 PM
I'd like to see the list of developmental QB's after the draft is over. If I see the words "Marcus Vick" and "Eagles" in the same sentence, I will not be a happy camper, however.
Possible QBs for UDFAs (as of 5:18):
Basanez, Brett 6-1 219 Northwestern
Hackney, Darrell 6-0 238 Alabama-Birmingham
Meyer, Erik 6-1 209 Eastern Washington
Nealy, Barrick 6-4 227 Texas State
Pinegar, Paul 6-5 231 Fresno State
Vick, Marcus 6-0 201 Virginia Tech :poison
No to Vick and Basanez. Vick for obvious reasons and Basanez has a noodle for an arm.
I give em an A also. I sure as hell didn't expect them to get Justice after the first round. Moving guys like Hollis and Hicks helped pave the way for other players.
One of the many reasons to hate WIP is on the air right now. Charry is ripping the Eagles for not getting Javon Walker. He said they should've packed their 2nd and other picks to get him. :-D
B+ for now. Let's see how everything fits together....
who knows, none of the kids have played a down yet.
true, but I think everyone is rating off projected potential, and looking down the line the Eagles got a lot of talent and value moreso than in recent years past.
I'd give the draft an A. The Eagles were agressive in trading up multiple times and keeping the war room busy to secure players that they truly wanted. You could tell the effort was there in the Eagles war room to make something happen this year, and secure as much talent as possible to make a run this season.
Just looking at the current talent on the roster the Eagles turned the D-Line into one of the weakest parts of the team into arguably the strongest, and they sured up the O-Line and added a lot of young talent in Justice and Jean-Gilles to push veterans as well as learn from then in years to come.
The Eagles really solidified both lines, which are really the cornerstones to any good team in the NFL. Getting people who can move the chains like Avant and getting a solid kick/punt returner in Bloom can help the field position battle and put points on the board. :yay
On potential I give this draft an A, hopefully they will live up to that potential. I'm also hoping Gocong is good, and I'm more re-assured that the Patriots were pursuing him, because I am excited about the prospects of him being a Mike Vrabel type player, who can line up on the line and rush off the edge standing up to make plays.
A big A for sure.Would have liked Stovall thrown in there but can see the logic behind not getting him as well.
Bring on the june 1st cuts. :yay
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 30, 2006, 04:48:51 PM
This draft was by far the best since 2002 and it could be the best ever for Reid. They got a disruptive pass rushing DT who is built like a brick shteinhouse in the first. A position of need to go along with Bunkley being the best rated guy on the board at the time.
The pick of Justice at 39 was awesome. He was projected to be a #1 pick and he dropped. Now he'll be pissed off and come in with a chip on his shoulder to knock people out moreso than if he had been a #1 - just to prove himself.
The Gocong pick is a solid one and it fits with what every Eagles fan said we needed - playmakers on the defensive side of the ball. So we have a potential replacement for Dhani who also can rush from the edge and dominate on STs.
Max Jean-Gilles was a steal in the 4th. With Hicks being traded it opens up the competition for LG. And as much as I liked Artis, he sucked last year. Sucked real bad. So Todd Herremans, Winston Justice, MJG and Adrien Clarke will compete for the LG spot and maybe MJG can give Jackson a run at C.
Jason Avant and Jeremy Bloom address the WR depth and Bloom gives them a solid PR and KR guy to pair with Bruce Perry. I wasn't too high on Avant but we'll see how he works out. He's got some size and he could be one of those guys, like Gocong, who is just a football player. Who cares about the numbers when you can make plays.
Omar Gaither addresses the STs and LB depth and LaJuan Ramsey is a nice project DT from USC.
Overall this was an excellent two days for the Birds. I would've liked to see a QB and RB though. But UDFA is something to watch for too.
1st Round 14th overall - Brodrick Bunkley - DT - Florida State - 6'0 307
2nd Round 39th overall - Winston Justice - OT - USC - 6'6 320
3rd Round 71st overall - Chris Gocong - LB/DE - Cal Poly - 6'2 264
4th Round 99th overall - Max Jean-Gilles - OG - Georgia - 6'5 355
4th Round 108th overall - Jason Avant - WR - Michigan - 6'0 213
5th Round 147th overall - Jeremy Bloom - WR/RS - Colorado - 5'9 172
6th Round 168th overall - Omar Gaither - LB - Tennessee - 6'1 233
6th Round 204th overall - LaJuan Ramsey - DT - USC - 6'2 296
My grade: solid A
You could have added my kids preschool class after Jean-Gilles, and still rate this draft an A.
A-...needed a GOOD FB..otherwise excellent ;D
Well I got home from church and fell asleep and missed the entire second day.
Imagine my surprise to see that Brandon Marshall went off the board to another team.
Imagine my surprise to see that the Eagles were able to drop some meat and get two very solid picks in Max Gene-Gillis and Jason Avant.
These are excellent day two picks in that they were both graded to be day one guys.
ARand Co. have done an incredible job this weekend and I dare say the best they have had yet and these guys drafted Donniie Mc and Corey Simon.
Overall I don't think we have ever seen this much tallent throughout the draft top to bottom in I don't know how many years.
Everybody that was on thid roster last year is on notice.
I wasn't very enamored with the Gocong pick, thinking they must have had a scout go see the kid who said he was the top tallen from a small school this year, but I think it was the unfamiliarity that made most of us balk, in reality very few of us knew anything about him until he was picked. I don't like to see a project at SAM and hope Emmons shakes loose but the kid if he is as fast and physical as advertized will be at least a beast on specials.
The grade is A.
I give it an A for all the potential, but right now I can only see the first two picks having an impact. I like the idea of depth, but I'll wait and see what these guys can do before I get excited.
Based on value, it's an A. Has to be.
Bunkley = A- (not in love with picking DTs first in 2 straight drafts but it certainly was fortunate that he fell and was made all the better by...)
Justice = A (incredible)
Gocong = C (could be better or worse but he'll be changing positions and that is always a ?)
Jean-Gilles = A (for value and need)
Avant = B (for value)
Bloom = B+ (for need)
Gaither = C (a special teamer/non-factor)
Ramsey = C (Fodder)
I'll discount the last 2 picks since you can't expect much from 6th/7th rounders and give this a B+. The great part is that the potential is there for up to 6 players to contribute in one way or another (especially if Gocong can step in to OLB effectively). Really though, only Bunkley, Jean-Gilles and Bloom should get significant playing time immediately at DT, LG and KR/PR.
A
This draft was awesome. We made moves and got guys we really needed. Im not sure on Gocong or Blooms potential, but Im willing to trust those picks. Good fargin draft :yay
A : I couldnt have asked for any more. This draft was awesome.
I absolutely loved this draft. I mean, I know it's early, but before it's all said and done... this could easily rival the impact of the 2002 draft.
Bunkley - I would have been happier than a pig in shtein had the Eagles walked away from the 1st round with either him or Ngata and I was not disappointed. My expectations going in was that we wouldn't get either one of them without trading up... so getting this beast of a DT without giving up a thing makes it that much sweeter. Can't wait to see him and Patterson wreaking havoc.
Justice - Incredible. Simply incredible. Another guy that was widely believed to be out of the Eagles reach unless they traded up for him... and we get him with the 39th pick. The farging 39th pick. I couldn't believe he continued to drop and every time I saw a team trade up, I kept thinking to myself, "They HAVE to be moving up for Justice." I never imagined we'd be the ones walking away with him at that point. Every team in the NFL passed on this kid, some twice... and you gotta believe he's motivated to show them all what a mistake they made. I'm just glad we get the benefits.
Gocong - Was puzzled at first, but I figured that he had to be another one of those "extremely productive" players that Andy covets. The more I read up on him, the more I found that to be true. He'll have the knock of playing against lower level competition, but he did what he had to do to get recognized down there... he dominated. Add in the fact that this kid was coveted by the Pats and the Jets... he has the makings of a very solid pick. I also love him because he spells the E-N-D for Dance Fever.
Jean-Gilles - I was talking with some co-workers of mine at the end of Day 1... and we were all wondering how he hadn't been drafted yet. I was telling them all that I'd love to get him, although I didn't really expect it to happen. This is a massive G who was projected as a 2nd round talent by a number of folks... and we snatch him up in the 4th. I've watched damn near every UGA game this year and MJG is simply a road grader... and we simply stole him. The fact that we only used a player who wasn't going to make the roster next year anyway makes it even better.
Avant - Great value for the 5th round, because he's just a solid WR who gets the job done. Even being a Michigan fan, the 40 time scares me a little bit... but he plays fast enough... and he hauled in 82 catches for over 1000 yds and 8TD's last year... so he makes plays. Great hands.
Bloom - As I said in another thread, for months I've had it in the back of my head that I would like it if the Eagles use a late round pick on him if possible. I flipped when I saw that he was ours. He brings the obvious kick and punt return explosiveness... but I'll tell you what... I watched Kiper's little highlight reel on him as a WR and the kid looked like he could turn out to be pretty dangerous. I also like that he's going to come into the league looking to prove he belongs.
Gathier - Solid pick... he'll hopefully become a ST demon and provide some decent outside depth with the LB corps. I read that he has decent cover skills so he could turn into a solid player.
Ramsey - Not too sure where he's going to fit in if at all... as DT is deep as hell again, especially with Keyonta over there in NFLE. I guess he'll battle Marshall for the rights to the bottom of the depth chart.
Overall... the only disappointment I felt this weekend was the deal with Javon Walker... but that was a pretty small one and the moves the Eagles pulled off this weekend more than make up for that. They were aggressive in going after the guys they wanted and they were in ATTACK mode almost the entire time. Bunkley was the only player we didn't trade up for until Bloom came along in the 5th round. What's even better about that is the way they made these trades. Giving up only Dallas' 4th rounder to move up to grab Justice. Giving up only a 7th rounder to get up to grab Gocong. Moving players that were on the way out anyway in Thomas and Hicks to move up for Jean-Gilles and Avant.
The crown jewel though is the simple fact that they got 2 players who were considered by many to be top 10 talents, both of whom they would have likely had to trade up for in the 1st 39 picks... and it only took a 4th round pick to do it. That's amazing.
This draft is a solid A.
A-. I really wanted them to bring in a new 3rd QB and possibly someone to mix it up at RB.
Can't complain at all. I think their first 6 picks are all going to be solid contributors. The last two? Meh. Whatever.
Ray Didinger gave them an A-
A. I'm happy as hell today.
A
Unbelievable draft.
QuoteREADY TO PLAY
1. Philadelphia Eagles: Max Jean-Gilles, G, Georgia — Jean-Gilles dropped to the second day of the draft because of concerns about his weight, which has been north of 360 pounds for much of his college career. But his weight never slowed him down at Georgia, where he was a dominant straight-ahead blocker and even managed to pull out as a lead blocker on outside runs. Between Winston Justice and Jean-Gilles, Andy Reid has dramatically improved his offensive line this weekend.
2. Philadelphia Eagles: Jason Avant, WR, Michigan — Avant is more ready to contribute immediately than most of the receivers chosen on the first day. Although he dropped to the fourth round because of his slow 40 time, he runs excellent routes and understands how to read the opposing secondary to get open. Yet another good pick for a team that has had an outstanding draft
From Michael David Smith on FOXSports.com
linky (http://www.gbnreport.com/scoutsnotebook.htm)
QuoteGO TO THE HEAD OF THE CLASS!
PHILADELPHIA: Finshing 6-10 in a season in which they were considered Super Bowl favorites must have left a burr under the Eagles' collective saddle because they were all business this weekend. Indeed, the Eagles may very well have had the best draft of any team in the league, For starters, the Eagles made out like bandits when they were able to grab rugged DT Brodrick Bunkley, a player they had thought seriously about trading up for, with the 14th pick. Then in the second round, the Eagles moved up to get USC OT Winston Justice, a potential top 10 talent if he matures. Indeed, the earth may tilt just a tad in their direction when the Eagles go on the road after they also added 350-plus pound Georgia OG Max Jean-Gilles, yet another intriguing prospect. On the other hand, tweener DE Chris Gocong, the Eagles' 3rd round pick, is going to feel positively smurfish standing next to his new teammates. Gocong was a later-riser this spring, however, as an undersized DE or rush OLB its hard to see where he fits in the Philadelphia scheme. The Eagles then got some skill with the selections of WRs Jason Avant and Jeremy Bloom in the 4th and 5th rounds. Bloom, of course, can also return kicks as well as serve as captain of the Eagles' off-season ski team. .
A. Bunkley, Justice and Gilles alone made this draft. If Avant works out and can contribute in the next year or two give this draft an A+. I think we're all going to be pleased with Gocong. Just watching his highlight video made me want to go outside and tackle my 10 year old son on the street.
Kiper (already been posted?):
QuotePhiladelphia Eagles: GRADE: B
I really like defensive tackle Brodrick Bunkley playing next to Mike Patterson on the defensive line. Tackle Winston Justice and Georgia guard Max Jean-Gilles will solidify the left side of the offensive line for years to come. Chris Gocong was a solid pick, whether they play him at defensive end or linebacker, and Jeremy Bloom will be a great pick once he shakes off the rust from being away from the game. Still, Bloom can help the Eagles in the return game this season.
I find his grade puzzling, because Bunkley, Justice, and Jean-Gilles were all at or near the top of his "best available" when they were drafted. Plus, he doesn't criticize anything they did.
Oh well.
I've gotta give the draft an A. Looks good on paper. Time will give the draft its real grade.
Quote from: Philly Forever on April 30, 2006, 05:30:01 PM
One of the many reasons to hate WIP is on the air right now. Charry is ripping the Eagles for not getting Javon Walker. He said they should've packed their 2nd and other picks to get him. :-D
Are you Bi-polar or something? In one breath, you say how sure you were that the Eagles were going to get Walker and how badly they could have used him AND how sure you are they'll still sign/trade for another veteran WR. Then, you claim you hate WIP and are laughing at it for suggesting the Eagles should have tried harder to get Walker.
Um... sure.
i was extremely happy with the draft after day one, it looks like they did some nice things on the second day. until i see how everything works it way out on the field i'm going to stick to a very solid A-
This ugly old fart (http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/5559064) thinks the Eagles did only average. Apparently, his daughter was the hooker picked up by Winston Justice.
Quote22. Philadelphia: The Eagles did a solid job, but fans must remember that USC tackle Winston Justice was reminded who he had to block in the national championship game on that critical fourth down and still messed up. The perception is that the Eagles stole him in the second round with the 39th overall pick. They definitely reached on Cal Poly SLO linebacker Chris Gocong while defensive tackle Broderick Bunkley was a no-brainer in the first round. Coach Andy Reid likes skier Jeremy Bloom as a kick returner and slot receiver in a spread formation. Michigan WR Jason Avant has some potential, but no one should confuse him with Terrell Owens. Grade: C
Whereas, this doofy-looking Jew (http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/5561544) loves what the Eagles did:
QuoteHUGE WINNERS...
PHILADELPHIA
Eagles President Joe Banner told me on the radio that he and Coach Andy Reid like to build a team from the inside out. They did just that in the first two rounds. When Winston Justice shockingly fell to the second round, Reid promptly traded up to get the USC offensive tackle. While this was a major fall for Justice, he is going to a great line coach in Juan Castillo, a coach Justice told me he clicked with during a visit. Justice was a consideration for the Eagles in round 1 if defensive tackle Brodrick Bunkley was off the board. When the FSU star was around, he was easily the Eagles pick. In fact, the Eagles wanted to trade up to 8 to get Bunkely, but the Bills inexplicably didn't think they would get the immortal Donte Whitner at 14.
And Banner could get arrested for highway robbery with his trade up and eventual 4th round selection of Max Jean Gilles, who could've easily been a high second round pick..
The Eagles also did a good job on day two with the underrated Michigan receiver Jason Avant; a possession receiver. Philadelphia then selected former Olympic skier Jeremy Bloom, a lighting quick athlete who will instantly play on special teams
Great looking draft, I just felt like F.O. got the job done really fargin good. Justice in the 2nd and Avant so late were great surprises.
A+ You guys complaining about a big RB are killing me! Buck/Tapeh/Perry/Moats will be fine. I do wish they took Rod Wright over Ramsey, since they really could have a steal with starting DT material if they could motivate Rod.
Easily Reid's best draft. McNabb and Corey were good picks but were expected. Top to bottom this was their best draft.
excellent draft....b+
only 1 early-ish pick i didn't care for but the rest made up for it.
I give it a solid A. One of the best drafts I can remember. I would have liked a QB late, but not a major concern
Offensively, if Justice and Gilles pan out, which they should, this line is going to be not only monstrously huge, but made up of very athletic, technically sound blockers. Screw the talk about a big back. Between Moats, Westy, Perry, Tapeh and maybe CBuck, running behind those giants shouldn't be a problem. Think of the push they'll get on running plays. Avant should be a guy that can contribute right away. He runs excellent routes, and isn't afraid to catch in traffic. He also catches almost everything thrown his way. He isn't speedy, but he is tough as nails. Bloom instantly makes kick offs and punts interesting and becomes a problem for opposing teams. He may also turn into a good slot/gadjet receiver.
Defensively, Bunkley rounds off what will should be an absolutely disruptive line. Howard, Cole, Patterson, Kearse, McDougle, Walker, should be very fun to watch opposing QBs flee for their lives. They have a long rotation of solid to excellent D-Lineman, that will keep them fresh throughout the season. They should make the LBs and secondary look much, much better right away. The Cocong pick I am coming around on. People talked about Vince Young looking like a man among boys in the Rose Bowl, and from what I have seen and read about this kid, that is the way he was were he was playing. If they can get him knowledgable, and comfortable in the LB position, he could be a solid player. I think he will definitely be a solid STer. This Gaither kid looks interesting. Has good coverage skills, and looks like the negatives aren't due to physical limitations. He could be a solid move for depth, and will look to turn some heads on special teams. Finally, I have never heard of the Ramsey kid, but he did compete with very solid players at USC, including Patterson. Maybe a project to be sent of to NFLE.
Overall, the way they drafted, it makes them look pretty smart from a FA standpoint. Some of the players they took in the draft are very similar to the guys they were supposedly interested in during FA. Avant and David Givens, Gilles and Bentley, Bloom and Randle El. They used both aspects (FA and the draft) to do a large amount of upgrading and a lot of need positions.
Rick Goslin on Dallas Morning News rated it a "B". He geve out 1 A+, 1 or 2 A's and about a half-Dozen B's. He gave Dallas a "C".
For the people that wanted a QB, there's only a few names still left on the UDFA pile (including Vick), but next year's class should be decent...
Brady Quinn (Notre Dame) -- likely #1 overall pick
Jordan Palmer (UTEP) -- younger bro of Carson
Kyle Wright (Miami) -- junior
Brian Brohm (Louisville) -- junior
Drew Stanton (Michigan State)
Troy Smith (Ohio State)
Chris Leak (Florida)
Tyler Palko (Pittsburgh)
Kevin Kolb (Houston)
kyle wright is train wreck
unless he makes a leap of epic proportions i cant see him even being drafted next year
I give this draft an A.
I'm not crazy about the Gacong pick but that is because I fear what I don't know. Everything else in this draft more then compensates.
I do wonder about the running game but somehow I think the recievers will be fine. Certainly better then the Thrash years.
Quote from: BigEd76 on May 01, 2006, 12:32:28 PM
For the people that wanted a QB, there's only a few names still left on the UDFA pile (including Vick), but next year's class should be decent...
Brady Quinn (Notre Dame) -- likely #1 overall pick
Jordan Palmer (UTEP) -- younger bro of Carson
Kyle Wright (Miami) -- junior
Brian Brohm (Louisville) -- junior
Drew Stanton (Michigan State)
Troy Smith (Ohio State)
Chris Leak (Florida)
Tyler Palko (Pittsburgh)
Kevin Kolb (Houston)
I'm anticipating Troy Smith will really improve this year.
Quote from: Phanatic on May 01, 2006, 01:11:49 PM
I do wonder about the running game but somehow I think the recievers will be fine. Certainly better then the Thrash years.
I think that almost anyone should be able to run effectively behind this line. I think Andy clearly addressed the running game with the picks of Justice & Gilles.
Quote from: FFatPatt on May 01, 2006, 07:15:37 AM
Kiper (already been posted?):
QuotePhiladelphia Eagles: GRADE: B
I really like defensive tackle Brodrick Bunkley playing next to Mike Patterson on the defensive line. Tackle Winston Justice and Georgia guard Max Jean-Gilles will solidify the left side of the offensive line for years to come. Chris Gocong was a solid pick, whether they play him at defensive end or linebacker, and Jeremy Bloom will be a great pick once he shakes off the rust from being away from the game. Still, Bloom can help the Eagles in the return game this season.
I find his grade puzzling, because Bunkley, Justice, and Jean-Gilles were all at or near the top of his "best available" when they were drafted. Plus, he doesn't criticize anything they did.
Oh well.
Heard him this morning on ESPN Radio and he only gave out like one A- and a couple of B+. He was very complimentary regarding the birds picks.
I think that almost anyone should be able to run effectively behind this line. I think Andy clearly addressed the running game with the picks of Justice & Gilles.
he wont 'clearly' address it until he actually runs the ball
From Charles Robinson (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=cr-nfcgrades050106&prov=yhoo&type=lgns):
Philadelphia Eagles
High marks – The Eagles cleaned up for the second straight season, getting talent and value from the top of the draft to the bottom. Brodrick Bunkley should add to a top-notch defensive tackle rotation, and getting offensive tackle Winston Justice in the second round was highway robbery. Defensive end Chris Gocong is a smart, high-motor guy who could end up being a steal in the third round. Massive guard Max Jean-Gilles should be a future starter, and wide receivers Jason Avant and Jeremy Bloom will be great special teamers who could blossom into productive wideouts. Even linebacker Omar Gaither and defensive tackle LaJuan Ramsey should make the team and give the Eagles good depth down the line.
Low marks – Running back is the only area that could have used some kind of attention depth-wise.
Final grade: A
For the rest of the NFC East:
Dallas C+
New York C+
Washington C
final consensus nfl draft grades from 9 analysts....
http://sports.espn.go.com/chat/sportsnation/story?id=2431855
Eagles got the same GPA as I graduated with. Super.
USA Today's Jarrett Bell:
QuotePhiladelphia Eagles
Andy Reid still loves big fellas. First-round DT Brodrick Bunkley has been compared to Warren Sapp. OT Winston Justice and G Max Jean-Gilles, both of whom were projected to go higher, could become building blocks for the O-line of the future.
Coming out last year, Patterson had been nicknamed "baby Sapp"... Sapp may be a clown off the field, but having two of him at DT would not be a bad thing at all.
wow...you're so smart.
anyway, here's what the guy who gave the eagles a C said:
Quote22. Philadelphia: The Eagles did a solid job, but fans must remember that USC tackle Winston Justice was reminded who he had to block in the national championship game on that critical fourth down and still messed up. The perception is that the Eagles stole him in the second round with the 39th overall pick. They definitely reached on Cal Poly SLO linebacker Chris Gocong while defensive tackle Broderick Bunkley was a no-brainer in the first round. Coach Andy Reid likes skier Jeremy Bloom as a kick returner and slot receiver in a spread formation. Michigan WR Jason Avant has some potential, but no one should confuse him with Terrell Owens. Grade: C
I think the criticism of the Justice pick would be warranted only if they took him at #14. The guy is certainly a boom/bust guy, but if he plays to even a shred of his potential, he'll be a solid OT in the NFL for many years. At #39, a guy with the kind of good production and top-shelf talent he possesses is a steal.
Bunkley at #14 and Jean-Gilles at #99 alone make the draft a C at least, so if he hates the rest of the picks, that's fair.
I think the criticism of the Justice pick would be warranted only if they took him at #14
czarnecki before the draft said this....
Justice's superb pro day effort has his stock skyrocketing as the draft approaches. The Lions started former seventh-round pick Kelly Butler at right tackle last year and though he performed adequately, Justice would provide an immediate upgrade.
Is this the same guy who wrote the comment in hunt's post?
yes sir
That makes no sense, unless the guy is truly a Philly hater.
and we all know that there are none of those out there...
i think what happened is justice dropped and he figured there must be a reason and that reason wasnt good...therefore bad pick
The analysts on ESPN said they thought from breaking down tape that Justice was the most NFL ready OT in the draft. Even more than Ferguson. They said he had better technique. I don't breakdown tape of offensive lineman, so I can't really agree or disagree. We'll just have to wait and see.
My sincere apologies if this was already posted. From covers.com stating birds are one of 5 teams to watch along with Arizona, Cleveland, Miami and New Orleans.
http://www.covers.com/articles/articles.aspx?theArt=78888&tid=27&t=1
Last year was nothing short of a nightmare in Philadelphia after a Super Bowl appearance and four straight trips to the NFC Championship game. The Eagles finished 6-10 straight up, 5-11 against the spread, winning only two games after Donovan McNabb went down with a season-ending injury. The Terrell Owens induced quagmire isn't likely to continue through 2006, and Philly has all the makings of a loaded team playing with a collective chip on its shoulders.
Head coach Andy Reid went back to work rebuilding his offensive and defensive lines this offseason and strength up front was the foundation on which Philly made the postseason for five consecutive years from 2000 to 2004. The Eagles inked free agent defensive end Darren Howard and drafted defensive tackle Brodrick Bunkley from Florida State in the first round. The draft day additions of offensive linemen Winston Justice from USC and Max Jean-Gilley from Georgia should give McNabb the protection that he needs to stay healthy enough to get the Eagles back to the playoffs in 2006.
The draft day additions of offensive linemen Winston Justice from USC and Max Jean-Gilley from Georgia should give McNabb the protection that he needs to stay healthy enough to get the Eagles back to the playoffs in 2006.
god i cant stand idiot talking heads like this....this draft is not going to be the difference between the eagles winning and losing this year
mjg and justice arent going to play much and if they do then things didnt go very well for the eagles
I don't think you can make that strong a statement, IGY. And that's why you annoy people here.
Just as likely, Tra could throw out his back, and Justice could be good on the left. Jean-Gilles could also impress, and beat out Herremans/Clarke at guard.
While I agree, based on Reid's previous history, neither Justice nor Jean-Gilles will see much time sans injury, to say it would be wholly bad if they did is too negative.
yeah and if tra throws his back out and justice is thrown to the wolves then 'things didnt go well'...justice is not ready to protect the blindside of an nfl qb yet...in fact if thomas goes down herremans goes out there not justice
the bottom line is these two guys nor no one in this draft class...with the possible exception of bloom...will have a win/loss effect on this team...so to say that mjg and winston justice will have the eagles back in the playoffs this year is just plain not knowing what youre talking about
Whether they are named a starter now is yet to be determined. Whos to say one of them wont start? and who are you to say somebody is not ready to protect a QB's blind side? Werent you the one today saying how easy it is to play OT? Hmmmm
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 08, 2006, 04:30:13 PM
mjg and justice arent going to play much and if they do then things didnt go very well for the eagles
I have to agree with you based on AR's past actions with rookies - excluding Westy and Reggie Brown. It was just refreshing to see a complimentary commentary on the birds after reading that icehole Dr. Z the pinhead's reaction.
Werent you the one today saying how easy it is to play OT? Hmmmm
negative dook...still need brushing up on those reading comp skills...i said it doesnt take a rocket scientist to play the position...never said it was easy...in fact its quite difficult...which is why getting good tackles is at a premium and why even the very best tackles dont come in their rookie years and become difference makers much less a second round pick
It was just refreshing to see a complimentary commentary on the birds after reading that icehole Dr. Z the pinhead's reaction.
yeah as far as the draft itself i think it was very good...dr z is an idiot for criticizing it...but its also not a draft that is going to get the eagles into the playoffs this year
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 08, 2006, 05:11:30 PM
It was just refreshing to see a complimentary commentary on the birds after reading that icehole Dr. Z the pinhead's reaction.
yeah as far as the draft itself i think it was very good...dr z is an idiot for criticizing it...but its also not a draft that is going to get the eagles into the playoffs this year
I'm not being argumentative but I wonder what kind of draft someone has to have to go from not being in the playoffs to getting in. Is it more about where the Eagles were at the end of the season or specifically who they picked?
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 08, 2006, 04:30:13 PM
The draft day additions of offensive linemen Winston Justice from USC and Max Jean-Gilley from Georgia should give McNabb the protection that he needs to stay healthy enough to get the Eagles back to the playoffs in 2006.
god i cant stand idiot talking heads like this....this draft is not going to be the difference between the eagles winning and losing this year
mjg and justice arent going to play much and if they do then things didnt go very well for the eagles
You can't say that yet. If they win the job it could be they very much impressed, and that is a good thing, not a bad thing.
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 08, 2006, 05:10:01 PM
Werent you the one today saying how easy it is to play OT? Hmmmm
negative dook...still need brushing up on those reading comp skills...i said it doesnt take a rocket scientist to play the position...never said it was easy...in fact its quite difficult...which is why getting good tackles is at a premium and why even the very best tackles dont come in their rookie years and become difference makers much less a second round pick
how hard is it to grasp the offensive tackle position...come on nowThis is you today bud...when you say grasp, you mean overall from what Im reading. And go ahead and check that OT tackle position again IGY, you might find Robert Gallery in there...he didnt make a difference on that line huh?
You talk a mean game, and I agree with alot of your remarks, but really think before you make such outlandish comments
you cite robert gallery as your example...he was a huge disappointment his rookie year and hasnt been all that special in general...in fact he was such a force his rookie year the raiders improved from 4-12 to 5-11 with him
The guy started as a rookie and played all the games, not to mention he helped an offensive line that surrendered the fifth-fewest sacks (30) in the NFL that year. Stop backpeddling your point IGY. You said rookie lineman dont come in and make a difference--which means solid production for a QB (throwing for over 4000 yds) and a RB. Difference maker for a rookie? I think so
and when have you ever heard the quote..."Damien Woody took NE to the Superbowl this year or John Runyan propelled the Eagles to 4 NFC championship games?" Thats not their job guy
You said rookie lineman dont come in and make a difference
yeah they generally dont...even the truly great ones usually dont much less a winston justice...so really what is your point?
if you think winston justice and/or jean-gillies is the difference btwn the eagles making or not making the playoffs then more power to you...but youre wrong
you see...now its "generally". IGY, the only reason why I call you out is because your so bold in your direct statements.
and if they did start for whatever reason, you can bet if the Eagles make the playoffs, there will be plenty of talk on this board and the media of how "Justice has made a big difference on that side of the line this year...."
you see...now its "generally".
sorry i dont have on call knowledge of every tackle that has ever come into the league going back to the 1930's...so perhaps there was one or two that came in an were instant probowlers...but basically it just doesnt happen
the point was and is that if justice and/or jean gillies play this year they will not be a difference maker...much less get the team into the playoffs...the eagles would be lucky for either of them to be solid and show some potential that will lead to possible greatness a couple years down the road
any more ?'s
IGY = (http://www.randyandjohn.com/diaryland/aaa_blog/images/2005/January/01-24/johnny00.jpg)
eagles draft review came out today on countdown....
http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/review/teams/philadelphiaeagles.html
IGY...
I'm posting it here so no one else has to endure the seizure-inducing ad on that page.
Jesus... :puke
QuoteJune 5, 2006
Philadelphia Eagles '06 Draft Review
Scott Wright
President, NFL Draft Countdown
Teams are always spouting off about how they got exactly the player / players they wanted in the draft but when it comes to the Eagles this year those claims might actually be true. Philadelphia not only landed the top two players that they were targeting but they also did a good job addressing needs throughout the draft while getting good value in each round.
In round one Philly had their sights firmly set on two players, Florida St. defensive tackle Brodrick Bunkley and USC offensive tackle Winston Justice, and as lucky would have it they ended up with both. For a long time it appeared as if Buffalo at #8 had zeroed in on Bunkley and there was talk that Philadelphia might even try to trade up for a shot at him but they stood pat and he fell right into their laps. Despite some injury and character concerns Bunkley saw his stock soar after a great senior campaign and will fit right in with the Eagles attacking scheme. With Corey Simon gone the Eagles defensive tackles really struggled in 2005 but after using their last two #1 picks on the position it should become an area of strength in the near future. When Justice unexpectedly fell into the second round Philadelphia got aggressive and traded up to get him. There are some definite maturity issues with Justice but based on pure talent he should have gone much, much higher. With Tra Thomas and Jon Runyan nearing the end of the line Justice will be groomed as their tackle of the future and he could turn out to be a major steal if he keeps his head on straight. It's not too often that a team is fortunate enough to land not one but two players that they had targeted in advance but that was certainly the case for Philly this year with Bunkley and Justice.
In round three the Eagles nabbed one of the premier sleeper prospects available in Cal Poly defensive end Chris Gocong. The winner of the Buck Buchanan Award as the top defensive player in NCAA Division I-AA football, Gocong was extraordinarily productive at his level notching 36.5 sacks in his last two seasons. An undersized 'tweener, Gocong will be tried out as a SAM linebacker and could eventually push Dhani Jones, who was disappointing last season. With the first of two fourth round picks the Eagles chose Georgia offensive guard Max Jean-Gilles, who fell further in the draft than most expected. A massive road grader type, Jean-Gilles has some conditioning and stamina issues but he definitely has the natural talent to be a starter. If Todd Herremans isn't able to impress Jean-Gilles could get an apportunity as a rookie, otherwise he'll likely be relegated to backup duty until Jon Runyan leaves and Shawn Andrews shifts outside to tackle. With their next pick Philadelphia brought in Michigan wide receiver Jason Avant, who was very productive but simply lacks great timed speed. With Terrell Owens now gone the team needed a big, physical wideout who could be a threat in the red zone and move the chains, a role Avant could help fill as soon as this upcoming season.
In round five Philadelphia selected one of the drafts most intriguing players in former Colorado wide receiver Jeremy Bloom. Also a standout Olympic skier, Bloom hasn't played football in a couple of years since he was ruled ineligible by the NCAA for taking sponsorship money to support his skiing career but in his two seasons with the Buffaloes he displayed big play ability as both a wideout and return man. Even though he has a lot of upside as a slot receiver Bloom's biggest impact early on will come in the return game, where he should be able to help immediately. With their next choice the Eagles chose Tennessee outside linebacker Omar Gaither, who doesn't profile as a front line type in the pros but should provide valuable depth on the weakside. After starting the draft with a defensive tackle Philly ended it the same way by selecting LaJuan Ramsey of USC with their final pick in round six. A penetrating one-gapper, Ramsey had to wait behind Mike Patterson and Shaun Cody before finally getting an opportunity to start as a senior in 2006. Ramsey definitely has some physical tools to work with and develop while also being a good fit for their scheme though so he could surprise and provide depth in the middle of the line.
It is apparent that the Eagles decision makers had one eye on the future with this draft and even though they added some players who will help right away a lot of their picks won't contribute for a year or two. Still, Philadelphia was able to address glaring needs at defensive tackle, linebacker and wide receiver while getting good value for most, if not all, of their picks. About half of their choices qualify as eventual starters while the other half should at least contribute as backups and situational guys and anytime a team can bring in a class with an outlook as rosy as that it ensures a good mark on the grading front.
GRADE: B+
rewind
found it funny that easy listed a gang of qb's that would be coming out in the 07 draft to make it a strong qb class and jemarcus russell isnt one of them (not criticizing just looking at it thru 20/20 vision)
Quote from: moats23 on April 30, 2006, 06:07:17 PM
who knows, none of the kids have played a down yet.
they still havent
Quote from: rjs246 on April 30, 2006, 07:00:39 PM
Bunkley = A- (not in love with picking DTs first in 2 straight drafts but it certainly was fortunate that he fell and was made all the better by...)
Justice = A (incredible)
Gocong = C (could be better or worse but he'll be changing positions and that is always a ?)
Jean-Gilles = A (for value and need)
Avant = B (for value)
Bloom = B+ (for need)
Gaither = C (a special teamer/non-factor)
Ramsey = C (Fodder)
I'll discount the last 2 picks since you can't expect much from 6th/7th rounders and give this a B+. The great part is that the potential is there for up to 6 players to contribute in one way or another (especially if Gocong can step in to OLB effectively). Really though, only Bunkley, Jean-Gilles and Bloom should get significant playing time immediately at DT, LG and KR/PR.
Irony at it's finest...being that they were the only ones that had any signifigant playing time.
You could say the same thing about the first few dozen posts in this thread. A lot of people were giving that draft A-, A, A+ praise. A year later and the only players worth mentioning so far from it are indeed, the last 2 players chosen. Not the measuring stick for a successful draft imo.
The only "good" thing about that draft is that few players really got a chance to get on the field much, either due to being buried on the depth chart or injury (Bloom and Gocong).
The only real disappointment from that draft so far is Bunkley because he wasn't hurt and apparently couldn't make his way into a DT rotation that was mediocre at best.
And Avant did show some promise when given an opportunity and seemed to improve as the year went on. Everyone else is still and unknown at this point.
And since we're bringing up speculation posts from a year ago, enjoy our fearless leader's prediction (it was 2 posts before rjs'):
Quote from: General_Failure on April 30, 2006, 06:47:25 PM
I give it an A for all the potential, but right now I can only see the first two picks having an impact. I like the idea of depth, but I'll wait and see what these guys can do before I get excited.
No wonder he moved to Australia.
I'm a seer.
Bloom = B+ (for need)
Quote from: Sgt PSN on March 30, 2007, 04:31:03 PM
And since we're bringing up speculation posts from a year ago, enjoy our fearless leader's prediction (it was 2 posts before rjs'):
Quote from: General_Failure on April 30, 2006, 06:47:25 PM
I give it an A for all the potential, but right now I can only see the first two picks having an impact. I like the idea of depth, but I'll wait and see what these guys can do before I get excited.
No wonder he moved to Australia.
I read the list backwards. :paranoid
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 30, 2007, 08:34:10 PM
Bloom = B+ (for need)
See - er.
(But seriously, have you ever seen a team that needed a legitimate return threat more than the farging Eagles? The answer, obviously, is no.)
Reno Mahe = best return average in the NFL. Natch!
See - er.
(But seriously, have you ever seen a team that needed a legitimate return threat more than the farging Eagles? The answer, obviously, is no.)
i liked the pick too....still do in fact...its just funny how much you hate him now
I'm fickle with my hate. It would be fine if he could actually play, but since it doesn't seem that he can he's easy to dispise.
i'm buying you a bloom jersey for this year.
Word, I'll regift it to my little sister. I'm sure she thinks he's dreamy.
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 30, 2007, 03:08:30 PMfound it funny that easy listed a gang of qb's that would be coming out in the 07 draft to make it a strong qb class and jemarcus russell isnt one of them (not criticizing just looking at it thru 20/20 vision)
Because he wasn't rated that high before last season...maybe a late 2nd, early 3rd. As for the rest of the list, Wright was awful and went back to school and Brohm will be the #1 pick in 2008...
Brady Quinn (Notre Dame) -- Top 10 pick, #1 QB on NFLDraftCountdown.com (ahead of Russell #2)
Jordan Palmer (UTEP) -- #7 QB
Drew Stanton (Michigan State) -- #3 QB
Troy Smith (Ohio State) -- #5 QB
Chris Leak (Florida) -- #11 QB
Tyler Palko (Pittsburgh) -- #8 QB
Kevin Kolb (Houston) -- #6 QB
#4 is Stanford's Trent Edwards, who nobody saw nationally because Stanford sucks...
Since you wanted to bump an old thread though, note that both of us gave the draft class a B while most of the others gave As...