Obviously things will change with June 1st cuts but this is still fun to do.
QB: McNabb, Garcia, Chang
HB: Westbrook, Moats, Perry
FB: Tapeh
WR: Brown, Gaffney, Pinkston, Lewis, Avant, Bloom
TE: Smith, Schobel, Bartrum
OL: Thomas, Clarke, Jackson, Andrews, Runyan, Justice, Jean-Gilles, Herremans, Fraley, Darilek
DL: Kearse, Cole, Howard, McDougle, Patterson, Walker, Bunkley, Rayburn, Marshall
LB: Trotter, Jones, Barber, Gocong, McCoy, Gaither, Richmond
DB: Brown, Sheppard, Hood, Strickland, Ware, Dawkins, Lewis, Mikell, Considine
K/P: Akers, Johnson
QB: McNabb, Garcia, Detmer
HB: Westbrook, Moats, Perry
FB: Tapeh
WR: Brown, Gaffney, Pinkston, Lewis, Avant, Bloom
TE: Smith, Schobel, Bartrum
OL: Thomas, Clarke, Jackson, Andrews, Runyan, Justice, Jean-Gilles, Herremans, Fraley
DL: Kearse, Cole, Howard, McDougle, Patterson, Walker, Bunkley, Rayburn, Marshall
LB: Trotter, Jones, Barber, Gocong, McCoy, Gaither, Richmond, Short
DB: Brown, Sheppard, Hood, Strickland, Ware, Dawkins, Lewis, Mikell, Considine
K/P: Akers, Johnson
Switch Chang out for Detmer.
No Darilek. Yes Short.
I'm tempted to keep McCants and lose Greg Lewis, but I doubt that will happen. I also doubt that Mahe and Parry are both gone, but a guy can dream can't he. Nice draft. 6 players who could contribute and a 7th who could be a nice special teams guy.
I'll take a shot. Not who I want per se, just who I think will be on the roster. God knows the team will make a cut or two that surprises all (or most) of us...
QB: McNabb, Garcia, Detmer
HB: Westbrook, Moats, Mahe
FB: Tapeh
WR: Brown, Gaffney, Pinkston, Lewis, Avant, Bloom
TE: Smith, Schobel, Bartrum
OL: Thomas, Clarke, Jackson, Andrews, Runyan, Justice, Jean-Gilles, Herremans, Fraley, Armstrong
DL: Kearse, Cole, Howard, McDougle, Patterson, Walker, Bunkley, Rayburn, Jasper
LB: Trotter, Jones, Barber, Gocong, Simoneau, Gaither, Richmond
DB: Brown, Sheppard, Hood, Strickland, Ware, Dawkins, Lewis, Mikell, Considine
K/P: Akers, Johnson
QB: McNabb, Garcia, Chang
HB: Westbrook, Moats, Another back they don't yet have (trade or late cut)
FB: Tapeh
WR: Brown, Gaffney, Pinkston, Lewis, Avant, Bloom
TE: Smith, Schobel, Bartrum
OL: Thomas, Clarke, Jackson, Andrews, Runyan, Justice, Jean-Gilles, Herremans, Fraley, Armstrong
DL: Kearse, Cole, Howard, McDougle, Patterson, Walker, Bunkley, Rayburn, Jasper
LB: Trotter, Jones, Barber, Gocong, Simoneau, Gaither, Richmond
DB: Brown, Sheppard, Hood, Strickland, Ware, Dawkins, Lewis, Mikell, Considine
K/P: Akers, Johnson
QB: McNabb, Garcia, Chang
HB: Westbrook, Moats, Perry
FB: Tapeh
WR: Brown, Gaffney, Pinkston, Lewis, Avant, Bloom
TE: Smith, Schobel, Bartrum
OL: Thomas, Clarke, Jackson, Andrews, Runyan, Justice, Jean-Gilles, Herremans, Fraley, Darilek
DL: Kearse, Cole, Howard, McDougle, Thomas, Patterson, Walker, Bunkley, Rayburn, Marshall
LB: Trotter, Jones, Barber, Gocong, McCoy, Gaither, Richmond
DB: Brown, Sheppard, Hood, Strickland, Dawkins, Lewis, Mikell, Considine
K/P: Akers, Johnson
Does Ed Jasper make the team? The only guys that I can see definately here at DT are Bunkley, Patterson, and Walker other than that it is a toss up.
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on May 01, 2006, 05:14:42 PM
Does Ed Jasper make the team? The only guys that I can see definately here at DT are Bunkley, Patterson, and Walker other than that it is a toss up.
I think Marshall is a pretty safe bet as the #5 lardass run-stuffer (unless they bring in someone else to compete with him), which leaves Rayburn and Jasper to compete for the #4 spot; Rayburn is younger, probably cheaper, and had a great season for the Eagles 2 years ago so my guess is he gets the job.
Also maybe it's just wishful thinking but I think Simoneau is gone. Trotter, Gocong, McCoy, and Gaither are all locks to make the team and Barber and Jones are near-locks, which only leaves one LB spot open; and I think it goes to a special teams nutcase type of guy, either Richmond or Short. Simoneau's best chance to make the team is probably if Gocong lights it up in training camp and preseason and beats out Jones for the SAM job, and even then Sims would still have to beat out either Dhani or Barber at WIL (although he'd have a bit of an advantage since he can provide depth at MIKE).
I can't wait to see the competition for spots at LB. The two outside starting spots are absolutely wide-open. Hopefully Gocong can step up and take the spot and let Jones compete on the other side. I also can't wait to see the competition at LG; 4 big, athletic, young guys will be competing for the spot, all 4 will almost certainly make the team but it'll be a battle royale to see who gets the starting job on opening day.
This is not necessarily who I want to make it.
3 QB - McNabb, Garcia, Detmer
It's already been *hinted* that Detmer may be the 2nd QB *technically* again so that he can continue holding for kicks. Garcia would technically be the emergency QB and brought in if McNabb went down with a game-ending+ injury.
5 RB - Westbrook, Moats, Mahe, Parry, Perry
Meh. Bloom takes away the need for Reno, but he still manages to stick yet again. Parry "beats out" Tapeh much to all of our dismay and surprise. Meh. Again, meh.
6 WR - Brown, Gaffney, Lewis, McCants, Avant, Bloom (Pinkston on PUP)
McCants narrowly beats out McMullen for a spot. Pinkston not 100% ready, so they keep him off the TC roster.
3 TE - Smith, Schobel, Bartrum
9 OL - Thomas, Herremans, Jackson, Andrews, Runyan, Justice, Jean-Gilles, Clarke, Fraley
Fraley loses out to Jackson but is kept around to back him up. Justice and Jean-Gilles nearly win spots. Clarke is kept as a valuable backup, because he can actually play a little tackle and he isn't often outmanned.
5 DT - Patterson, Walker, Bunkley, Rayburn, Jasper
I'm going to owe Phreak $10 after that draft. Jasper is a good veteran to have around and beats out LaJuan Ramsey for the #5 spot, but will probably be deactivated most games. Grasmanis has no chance to make this team.
4 DE - Kearse, Howard, Cole, McDougle
Yes, McDougle is apparently healthy and I actually believe he'll make the team... FWIW.
7 LB - Jones, Trotter, Barber, McCoy, Gocong, Gaither, Short
Crazy man Short just can't be denied a spot because of his value on ST. Gaither is deactivated most weeks, but they feel exposing a 5th rounder to the PS might cause him to be scooped up, and they like the future of his versatility. Jones is on borrowed time but is still likely to be the starting SAM in base packages.
5 CB - Sheppard, Brown, Hood, Strickland, M. Ware
Ware narrowly beats out Dexter Wynn due to the different style and size he has from the other corners and his contributions on ST coverage. The team really likes Strickland as a dime CB.
4 S - Dawkins, Lewis, Considine, Mikell
Jim Johnson likes using Mikell in certain packages, especially around the goalline. I just don't see him getting beat out for a spot by a UDFA.
2 K/P - Akers, Hodges
OK, I really do think and hope it will be a healthy Dirk Johnson, but the fact that he had two visits and that neither team got him to sign an offer sheet says to me that he's not back to pre-injury form.
Pinkston to the PUP is a good idea, I havent thought of that.
Well, that would mean, I believe, that he's not allowed to participate in training camp at all. So, if he's close to 100%, the Eagles probably will have him out there... in which case, he'll probably beat out McCants for a spot.
Quote from: rjs246 on April 30, 2006, 05:02:03 PM
QB: McNabb, Garcia, Detmer
HB: Westbrook, Moats, Perry
FB: Tapeh
WR: Brown, Gaffney, Pinkston, Lewis, Avant, Bloom
TE: Smith, Schobel, Bartrum
OL: Thomas, Clarke, Jackson, Andrews, Runyan, Justice, Jean-Gilles, Herremans, Fraley
DL: Kearse, Cole, Howard, McDougle, Patterson, Walker, Bunkley, Rayburn, Marshall
LB: Trotter, Jones, Barber, Gocong, McCoy, Gaither, Richmond, Short
DB: Brown, Sheppard, Hood, Strickland, Ware, Dawkins, Lewis, Mikell, Considine
K/P: Akers, Johnson
Switch Chang out for Detmer.
No Darilek. Yes Short.
I'm tempted to keep McCants and lose Greg Lewis, but I doubt that will happen. I also doubt that Mahe and Parry are both gone, but a guy can dream can't he. Nice draft. 6 players who could contribute and a 7th who could be a nice special teams guy.
This will work. Short will surprise us all. Detmer situation will be interesting. If Chang outplays him in preseason games - where Detmer has looked terrible the past few years - Koy's in a heap of dodo. I think Garcia is going play well in preseason giving us a lot more confidence about our backup situation going into the season.
QB: McNabb, Garcia, Detmer
RB: Westbrook, Moats, FA Vet
FB: Tapeh
TE: Smith, Schoebel, Bartrum
WR: Brown, Gaffney, McCants, FA Vet, Bloom, Avant
OL: Thomas, MJG, Jackson, Andrews, Runyan, Justice, Herremans, Clarke, Young, Fraley
DL: Kearse, Walker, Patterson, Howard, Bunkley, Cole, McDougle, Rayburn, Marshall
LB: Trotter, Barber, McCoy, Gogong, Gaither , Richmond, Short
DB: Sheppard, Brown, Hood, Strickland, Ware, Lewis, Considine, Dawkins, Mikell
SP: Akers, Johnson
Practice Squad:
DT--Ramsey
DB--Ware
RB
QB
WR
OL
OL
LB
I think Pinky goes on PUP then IR.
I pretty much agree with your analysis FF, my only thing is I can't see them only keeping 4 DEs I think Thomas probably makes the squad over Short or Gaither. I also think Keyonta Marshall could really push Rayburn/Jasper for a roster spot. Ramsey has PS written all over him, they can bring him up when there are any injuries along the line.
On offense I see Tapeh making the roster over either Mahe or Parry. I could see a situation where both Parry and Tapeh are kept if the Eagles feel they have a running threat in short yardage situations with Tapeh.
I know it has been mentioned earlier but what does Philly do if Detmer is #3 for a holder?
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on May 01, 2006, 09:29:47 PMI know it has been mentioned earlier but what does Philly do if Detmer is #3 for a holder?
What don't you understand with the Detmer as holder concept?
Quote from: Diomedes on May 01, 2006, 09:32:45 PM
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on May 01, 2006, 09:29:47 PMI know it has been mentioned earlier but what does Philly do if Detmer is #3 for a holder?
What don't you understand with the Detmer as holder concept?
There are only two QBs that are active for gameday, so if Garcia is your backup where does that leave Koy?
How did they do it last year? And the year before that? Koy was the back up on game day so he could hold, but everyone understood that the third QB was the real backup. McNabb goes down in a game, Koy plays QB for the rest of the game then resumes his holding role when the real back up comes in for the following game.
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on May 01, 2006, 09:35:42 PM
There are only two QBs that are active for gameday, so if Garcia is your backup where does that leave Koy?
Jesus.
The third QB is listed as an 'emergency' QB. Meaning he can only enter the game if the first two guys have played.
So assuming McNabb gets hurt and the kicking team has been on the field at any point for a FG or EP, Koy has played and Garcia can come in.
Yeah, that's what I meant.
Quote from: rjs246 on May 01, 2006, 09:46:59 PM
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on May 01, 2006, 09:35:42 PM
There are only two QBs that are active for gameday, so if Garcia is your backup where does that leave Koy?
Jesus.
The third QB is listed as an 'emergency' QB. Meaning he can only enter the game if the first two guys have played.
So assuming McNabb gets hurt and the kicking team has been on the field at any point for a FG or EP, Koy has played and Garcia can come in.
I thought that the backup actually had to take a snap under center. What Dio said was what I was figuring, but I wasn't exactly sure if that was the plan this year.
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on May 01, 2006, 09:29:47 PM
I know it has been mentioned earlier but what does Philly do if Detmer is #3 for a holder?
Time to bring in:
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As in Chang.
Quote from: rjs246 on May 01, 2006, 09:46:59 PM
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on May 01, 2006, 09:35:42 PM
There are only two QBs that are active for gameday, so if Garcia is your backup where does that leave Koy?
Jesus.
The third QB is listed as an 'emergency' QB. Meaning he can only enter the game if the first two guys have played.
So assuming McNabb gets hurt and the kicking team has been on the field at any point for a FG or EP, Koy has played and Garcia can come in.
Right, but if McNabb is only out for a few plays and they bring in Garcia, then McNabb can't come back in the game until the 4th quarter. Smrt guy.
My 53 man roster
25 on Offense
QB - Donavan McNabb, Jeff Garcia, Timmy Chang
RB - Brian Westbrook, Ryan Moats, Bruce Perry
WR- Reggie Brown, Jabar Gaffney, Greg Lewis, Jason Avant, Jeremey Bloom
TE - L.J. Smith, Matt Schobel, Mike Bartrum
FB - Thomas Tapeh
OT- Tra Thomas, John Runyan, Todd Herremans, Winston Justice
OG-Shawn Andrews, Max-Jean Gilles, Scott Young, Adrien Clark
C - Jamal Jackson, Trey Darelik
26 on Deffense
DE - Javon Kearse, Darren Howard, Trent Cole, Jaqua Thomas, Jerome McDougle
DT - Brodrick Bunkley, Michael Patterson, Darwin Walker, Sam Rayburn, Ed Jasper
CB - Lito Sheppard, Sheldon Brown, Rod Hood, Donald Strickland, Matt Ware
LB - Jerimah Trotter, Shawn Barber, Dahani Jones, Chris Gocong, Omar Gaither,
Matt McCoy, Jason Short
S - Brian Dawkins, Michael Lewis, Sean Considine, Qwinten Mikell
2 on Special teams
k - David Akers
P - Dirk Johnson
Notable Cuts: Todd Pinkston, Correll Buckhalter, Josh Parry, Koy Detmer, Hank Fraley, Mark Simineou
I can't think of many things more unlikely than both Scott Young AND Trey Darilek making this team.
And there is no one on the team named Dahani. Just like the Ravens didn't draft anyone with a name pronounced "NAH-GAH-TAH".
And Brandon Short was already signed by the Giants. You think the Eagles are going to offer them something for a guy they could have easily had for months via free agency?
You smell.
Jason Short. I did not mean to anger the football Lord. Sorry all mighty.
The reason that both Scott Young and Darelik will make the team in my Opion is. That Jamal Jackson will beat out Fraley and they will not keep his salery on the bench. So Fraley gets cut. And Darelik is the back up center if that happens. And Scott Young is a 5th from last year that has the speed and size just needs some time to learn.
What does your o-line sittuation look like? Mr al Mighty FFatPatt
My OL situation doesn't include Trey no-English Darilek or Scott BYU-special Young.
I already posted my much-smarter-than-yours 53.
Quote from: PhillyandBCEagles on April 30, 2006, 04:32:05 PM
Obviously things will change with June 1st cuts but this is still fun to do.
QB: McNabb, Garcia, Chang
HB: Westbrook, Moats, Perry
FB: Tapeh
WR: Brown, Gaffney, Pinkston, Lewis, Avant, Bloom
TE: Smith, Schobel, Bartrum
OL: Thomas, Clarke, Jackson, Andrews, Runyan, Justice, Jean-Gilles, Herremans, Fraley, Darilek
DL: Kearse, Cole, Howard, McDougle, Patterson, Walker, Bunkley, Rayburn, Marshall
LB: Trotter, Jones, Barber, Gocong, McCoy, Gaither, Richmond
DB: Brown, Sheppard, Hood, Strickland, Ware, Dawkins, Lewis, Mikell, Considine
K/P: Akers, Johnson
When you look at the 53 man roster like this.....53 doesn't seem like a whole helluva lot.
Here's Mine:
QB - McNabb, Garcia, Detmer
RB - Westbrook, Moats Buckhalter, Perry
FB - Tapeh
WR - Brown, Gaffney, Pinkston, Lewis, Avant, McCants
TE - Smith, Schoebel, Bartrum
OL - Thomas, Justice, Jackson, Andrews, Runyan, Giles, Herremans, Clarke, Fraley
DL - Kearse, Howard, Cole, McDougle, Patterson, Bunkley, Walker, Rayburn
LB - Gocong, Trotter, Barber, McCoy, Sims, Short, Jones
CB - Brown, Sheppard, Hood, Strickland, Ware
S - Dawkins, Lewis, Mikkel, Considine
ST - Akers, Johnson, Bloom
I could see McCants not making it due to Bloom and another DT making the team (Jasper/Marshall). I think Gaither/Ramsey will be on the PS. I could see Dhani getting released if Gocong picks things up and performs or McKie may take a roster spot from someone at LB in camp. I see them only keeping those 8 DL since Howard could move inside.
I still don't get the sheer number of people who expect Buckhalter to make the team.
i wouldnt call it a lock but it would not be the least bit surprising if he made it over mahe as the last rb
i find more surprising the number of people who think they are going with three HB's
Well from all the coach speak they seem to be high on Perry, which is why I have him making the team at RB with Moats and Westy. I think if Buck performs in preseason and stays healthy, he'll make the team.
Didn't know where else to put this:
QuoteEagles | No June 1 cuts likely
Sat, 20 May 2006 11:40:53 -0700
Mark Eckel, writing for the Sporting News, reports the Philadelphia Eagles have close to $10 million left in salary cap space and will not have to make any cuts to their roster June 1. The team could be on the lookout for a veteran wide receiver or linebacker if one is released.
Eckel thinks they'll be on the lookout for a veteran LB? I think that's only possible if Emmons or someone else they think would be a better 1-year stopgap at SAM than we have now (Jones) shakes free. Then, they'd end up probably cutting Jones. Phreak/Ed/anyone, which WR's are possibilities for June 1 cuts?
Quote from: FFatPatt on May 20, 2006, 04:43:07 PM
which WR's are possibilities for June 1 cuts?
T.O.
Bunkley says Jimmy Smith will be available on June 1.
Quote from: EagleFeva on May 20, 2006, 04:49:36 PM
Bunkley says Jimmy Smith will be available on June 1.
We should sign him and then cut him in training camp.......just for old time's sake.
Quote from: EagleFeva on May 20, 2006, 04:49:36 PM
Bunkley says Jimmy Smith will be available on June 1.
He'll be available every June 1 from here to eternity.
Quote from: FFatPatt on May 20, 2006, 05:14:18 PM
Quote from: EagleFeva on May 20, 2006, 04:49:36 PM
Bunkley says Jimmy Smith will be available on June 1.
He'll be available every June 1 from here to eternity.
But he'll always still have 2 years left in him.
I'd appreciate it if you jackasses would stay on topic. Thanks.
Quote from: rjs246 on May 20, 2006, 06:24:24 PM
I'd appreciate it if you jackasses would stay on topic. Thanks.
Whatever.
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Quote from: rjs246 on May 20, 2006, 06:24:24 PM
I'd appreciate it if you jackasses would stay on topic. Thanks.
Your gay!
I am drunk as shtein right now and looking at the best camel toe I have ever seen. :yay
Hooray beer!
Quote from: FFatPatt on May 20, 2006, 10:03:54 PM
Quote from: rjs246 on May 20, 2006, 06:24:24 PM
I'd appreciate it if you jackasses would stay on topic. Thanks.
Whatever.
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QB - McNabb, Garthia, Neckbeard
RB - Westbrook, Moats, Perry
FB - Tapeh
WR- Brown, Gaffney, Avant, Lewis, McCants, Bloom
TE - Smith, Shobel, Bartrum
OL - Thomas, Justice, Jackson, Andrews, Runyan, Giles, Herremans, Clarke,
C - Jackson, Fraley
DL - Kearse, Howard, Cole, Thomas, McDougle, Bunkley, Patterson, Walker, Rayburn, Jasper
CB - Sheppard, Brown, Hood, Strickland, Ware
LB - Trotter, Barber, Jones :puke, Gocong, Gaither, Short
S - Dawkins, Lewis, Considine, Mikell
K - Akers
P - Johnson
Quote from: FFatPatt on May 20, 2006, 04:43:07 PM
Eckel thinks they'll be on the lookout for a veteran LB? I think that's only possible if Emmons or someone else they think would be a better 1-year stopgap at SAM than we have now (Jones) shakes free. Then, they'd end up probably cutting Jones. Phreak/Ed/anyone, which WR's are possibilities for June 1 cuts?
I honestly do not see a lot of June 1st cuts being made.
Why?
Because of two things;
1. When the new CBA was reached there was a thing put in there where teams could cut a player (or two) at anytime prior to June 1st and designate him as a post June 1st cut and treat the salary breakdowns as such. So hypothetically the Eagles could've cut Dhani Jones on May 17th and designated him one of those players and then had cap relief the same as if they had waited until June 1st.
2. When the CBA was signed and the cap jumped so much there weren't really a lot of teams in cap trouble. Now, there might be a few guys who will be cut because a team has signed a player and drafted a few, but I don't see many, if any, strictly salary cap based cuts.
I do think that if Emmons is cut, they will sign him.
KFFL has a few june 1st cuts possibilities.
Dexter Coakley, David Patten.
I thought Emmons would be one too, but...
QuoteGiants | Team will not likely have any June 1 cuts
Sat, 20 May 2006 10:52:17 -0700
Ralph Vacchiano, writing for the Sporting News, reports the New York Giants are not likely to have any cuts for June 1.
Total: QB (3), HB (4), FB (1), WR (5), TE (3), OL (10), DL (9), LB (6), DB (9), K (1), P (1) KR/PR (2).
QB: McNabb, Garcia, Detmer. Chang will be relegated to the practice squad, unless he shows something specatular. This could well be Detmer's last year, after which he moves on to a role wothin the Eagles organization.
HB: Westbrook, Moats, Buckhalter. I say four RB's. Buckhalter remains in good health. Perry serves as special teamer, Moats and Westbrook can line-up as WR. What about a formation with Buckhalter and Moats in the backfield, and Westbrook in the slot.
FB: Tapeh
WR: Brown, Gaffney, Pinkston, Baskett, Avant. The struggle will be between Lewis and Baskett. I think it is all up to Baskett. If he can convince on special teams, he will beat Lewis. If not, he will be practice-squad. I would say gthat because of Schobel, LJ, and the versatility of the RB's they go for the young squad. Bye bye Lewis, therefor.
TE: Smith, Schobel, Bartrum: Bartrum will make it as a longsnapper. This might be his last season though.
OL: Thomas, Clarke, Jackson, Andrews, Runyan, Justice, Jean-Gilles, Herremans, Fraley, Darilek. IMHO it is rather the battle within this group that is interesting rather then the struggle to make the team. The only ones that are not a lock it seems are Fraley and Darilek
DL: Kearse, Cole, Howard, McDougle, Patterson, Walker, Bunkley, Rayburn, Ramsay. IMHO the struggle will be between Marshall, Rayburn and Ramsay. I think that Reid and JJ are willing to take one chance on a rookie. Though I feel to a degree it is depndent on how well Walker, Bunkley and Rayburn perform. If they dop very well, I think they will go for Ramsay. If not, then Marshall will be in, and Ransay will move to the practice squad.
LB: Trotter, Jones, Barber, Gocong, McCoy, Gaither. Richmond looses his spot to Buckhalter, the fight for the last spot is between him and Gaither. Richmond is placed (if eligible) on the practice squad). The biggest surprise though (however I do not count on it) could be Jones being cut.
DB: Brown, Sheppard, Hood, Strickland, Ware, Dawkins, Lewis, Mikell, Considine. JR Reed will come closer then most people would ever have thought he will. I think the availability of Bloom and Perry for the return game means he is out. Mikell barely makes it. And if he gets cut for JR Reed, he goes to hang on and become a valuable contributor for another team.
KR/PR: Perry and Bloom
K/P: Akers, Johnson
QB: McNabb, Garcia (I think they'll carry only 2 QBs, if they need a 3rd QB to play, they'll re-sign Detmer, who probably won't be claimed by anyone after he's cut)
RB: Westbrook, Moats, Perry, Tapeh
FB: Davis*
TE: Smith, Schobel, Bartrum
WR: Brown, Gaffney, Avant*, Bloom*, McCants, Pinkston (Lewis is the cut victim here)
OL: Thomas, MJG*, Jackson, Andrews, Runyan, Justice*, Herremans, Clarke, Young, Fraley
SP: Akers, Johnson
DL: Kearse, Walker, Patterson, Howard, Cole, McDougle, Bunkley*, Ramsey*, Marshall
LB: Jones, Trotter, McCoy, Richmond, Barber, Gocong*, Gaither*
DB: Sheppard, Brown, Hood, Strickland, Ware, Considine, Dawkins, Mikell, Lewis
PS--QB--Chang
RB
OL: Pat McCoy
OL:
DL:
CB:
S:
WR: Baskett
Quote from: bobbyinlondon on May 21, 2006, 04:58:36 AM
QB: McNabb, Garcia (I think they'll carry only 2 QBs, if they need a 3rd QB to play, they'll re-sign Detmer, who probably won't be claimed by anyone after he's cut)
They'll most definately go into the season with 3 qb's. They just resigned Detmer so I doubt that they'd cut him. They know what they get from him and if they didn't want it they wouldn't have signed him in the first place. Besides, I can guarantee you that if he hit the streets someone would pick him up......probably Childress.
There is so much here that I disagree with that I'm not sure where to begin...
Quote from: DutchBird on May 21, 2006, 03:42:31 AM
HB: Westbrook, Moats, Buckhalter. I say four RB's. Buckhalter remains in good health. Perry serves as special teamer, Moats and Westbrook can line-up as WR. What about a formation with Buckhalter and Moats in the backfield, and Westbrook in the slot.
You're out of your goddamned mind if you think Buckhalter has anything left. And I'd bet your little sister's virginity that Mahe makes this team. It will take an injury or Perry just absolutely destroying the competition for Mahe to be cut. Which makes me want to retch. I think we're looking at a Westbrook, Moats, Mahe, Tapeh lineup.
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WR: Brown, Gaffney, Pinkston, Baskett, Avant. The struggle will be between Lewis and Baskett. I think it is all up to Baskett. If he can convince on special teams, he will beat Lewis. If not, he will be practice-squad. I would say gthat because of Schobel, LJ, and the versatility of the RB's they go for the young squad. Bye bye Lewis, therefor.
So this team goes into the season with 6 WRs, FOUR of which are rookies and NONE of which were drafted on the first day? No chance. And if it were to happen I'd put my fist through a wall.
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TE: Smith, Schobel, Bartrum: Bartrum will make it as a longsnapper. This might be his last season though.
Bartrum is one of the league's best longsnappers. He isn't going anywhere after this year. The Eagles value personel continuity on the kicking teams above continuity anywhere else and will do everything they can to keep him as long as they can.
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OL: Thomas, Clarke, Jackson, Andrews, Runyan, Justice, Jean-Gilles, Herremans, Fraley, Darilek. IMHO it is rather the battle within this group that is interesting rather then the struggle to make the team. The only ones that are not a lock it seems are Fraley and Darilek
Darilek? No.
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DL: Kearse, Cole, Howard, McDougle, Patterson, Walker, Bunkley, Rayburn, Ramsay. IMHO the struggle will be between Marshall, Rayburn and Ramsay. I think that Reid and JJ are willing to take one chance on a rookie. Though I feel to a degree it is depndent on how well Walker, Bunkley and Rayburn perform. If they dop very well, I think they will go for Ramsay. If not, then Marshall will be in, and Ransay will move to the practice squad.
So they signed Jasper and have been holding on to Marshall and getting him experience, but their 7th round camp body wins the roster spot? Wrong.
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LB: Trotter, Jones, Barber, Gocong, McCoy, Gaither. Richmond looses his spot to Buckhalter, the fight for the last spot is between him and Gaither. Richmond is placed (if eligible) on the practice squad). The biggest surprise though (however I do not count on it) could be Jones being cut.
The team's best backup, Simoneau, will probably make the team. Gaither is another camp-body type player and at this point I'm convinced that you don't have any idea what's going on so I'm just disagreeing for the sake of disagreement.
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KR/PR: Perry and Bloom
This is Perry's shot at making the team, but I truly believe that Reid will cry like a baby if he has to let Mahe walk. I wouldn't count on it.
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Quote from: rjs246 on May 20, 2006, 06:24:24 PM
I'd appreciate it if you jackasses would stay on topic. Thanks.
Your gay!
I am drunk as shtein right now and looking at the best camel toe I have ever seen. :yay
Hooray beer!
best post u ever made, wow :-D
Quote from: DutchBird on May 21, 2006, 03:42:31 AM
Total: QB (3), HB (4), FB (1), WR (5), TE (3), OL (10), DL (9), LB (6), DB (9), K (1), P (1) KR/PR (2).
WR: Brown, Gaffney, Pinkston, Baskett, Avant. The struggle will be between Lewis and Baskett. I think it is all up to Baskett. If he can convince on special teams, he will beat Lewis. If not, he will be practice-squad. I would say gthat because of Schobel, LJ, and the versatility of the RB's they go for the young squad. Bye bye Lewis, therefor.
KR/PR: Perry and Bloom
If Bloom makes the team (which he will)... that means they're carrying 6 WR's.
Greg Lewis is going to make this team fellas. It's not about how much you like him or dislike him... but he's quality depth. Andy is not going to cut him loose... especially not in favor of a guy like Baskett. Lewis has experience in the offense... and if Pinky can't get his achilles together... he has the most experience of any WR on the squad. The only way Lewis gets cut is if at least 2 WR's impress the hell out of Andy in camp.
Baskett is the long shot among the WR's to make the team. He'd best hope that Pinky gets PUP'ed and they're unable to find a replacement.
Quote from: rjs246 on May 21, 2006, 09:28:54 AM
Darilek? No.
You can Darilek my balls.
I agree with a lot of what you posted but this was the only part that I could squeeze in a Zoolander reference.
Quote from: DutchBird on May 21, 2006, 03:42:31 AM
OL: Thomas, Clarke, Jackson, Andrews, Runyan, Justice, Jean-Gilles, Herremans, Fraley, Darilek. IMHO it is rather the battle within this group that is interesting rather then the struggle to make the team. The only ones that are not a lock it seems are Fraley and Darilek
Yeah, I can't wait to see how that shakes out. There's 4 guys with a decent or better chance to be our starting LG on opening day (Clarke, Herremans, Justice, MJG) and I'd be happy with any of them.
Quote from: EagleFeva on May 21, 2006, 03:57:57 PM
Greg Lewis is going to make this team fellas. It's not about how much you like him or dislike him... but he's quality depth. Andy is not going to cut him loose... especially not in favor of a guy like Baskett. Lewis has experience in the offense... and if Pinky can't get his achilles together... he has the most experience of any WR on the squad. The only way Lewis gets cut is if at least 2 WR's impress the hell out of Andy in camp.
Baskett is the long shot among the WR's to make the team. He'd best hope that Pinky gets PUP'ed and they're unable to find a replacement.
Can't totally rule McCants out, either. We do have a shteinload of average WRs, just no standouts (aside from hopefully Brown).
I do think that if Emmons is cut, they will sign him
no way they have the god gocong...who will seamlessly make the transition from 1-aa end to nfl SAM
If Greg Lewis is quality depth, then who isn't quality depth? Considering Greg Lewis is the worst receiver currently on this roster.
Quote from: Bunkley78 on May 21, 2006, 08:03:27 PM
If Greg Lewis is quality depth, then who isn't quality depth?
Pinkston.
Quote from: Bunkley78 on May 21, 2006, 08:03:27 PM
If Greg Lewis is quality depth, then who isn't quality depth? Considering Greg Lewis is the worst receiver currently on this roster.
Your ignorance never ceases to amaze me.
Quote from: rjs246 on May 21, 2006, 09:28:54 AM
There is so much here that I disagree with that I'm not sure where to begin...
Quote from: DutchBird on May 21, 2006, 03:42:31 AM
HB: Westbrook, Moats, Buckhalter. I say four RB's. Buckhalter remains in good health. Perry serves as special teamer, Moats and Westbrook can line-up as WR. What about a formation with Buckhalter and Moats in the backfield, and Westbrook in the slot.
You're out of your goddamned mind if you think Buckhalter has anything left. And I'd bet your little sister's virginity that Mahe makes this team. It will take an injury or Perry just absolutely destroying the competition for Mahe to be cut. Which makes me want to retch. I think we're looking at a Westbrook, Moats, Mahe, Tapeh lineup.
Well, I think Mahe is gone. I think both Perry and Bloom are too impressive. And Mahe lacks the breakaway speed (his main knock). Though I have never been as negative on Mahe as most of you, I do think he is done... What do you know about Buckhalter that we do not. I recall most people figuring he was done the first time he blew out his knee. Which was not quite right.
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WR: Brown, Gaffney, Pinkston, Baskett, Avant. The struggle will be between Lewis and Baskett. I think it is all up to Baskett. If he can convince on special teams, he will beat Lewis. If not, he will be practice-squad. I would say that because of Schobel, LJ, and the versatility of the RB's they go for the young squad. Bye bye Lewis, therefor.
So this team goes into the season with 6 WRs, FOUR of which are rookies and NONE of which were drafted on the first day? No chance. And if it were to happen I'd put my fist through a wall.
Well, being a rookie or a veteran has it seems hardly been the determining factor for Andy. I count only three rookies (Avant, Baskett and Bloom, who serves as KR as well). I feel that Lewis blew his chance last year (just as McMullen). I think that with the rest of the team surroudning them, they do feel they can get away with this. Gaffney might be new to the system, but he is NOT a rooky.
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TE: Smith, Schobel, Bartrum: Bartrum will make it as a longsnapper. This might be his last season though.
Bartrum is one of the league's best longsnappers. He isn't going anywhere after this year. The Eagles value personel continuity on the kicking teams above continuity anywhere else and will do everything they can to keep him as long as they can.
Bartrum is also 36 when the season starts. There are more ways in leaving the team the being cut. Retirement is a distinct possibilty, definately at that age. IIRC I read in an article that a few players were being trained as longsnappers (under the guidance of Bartrum).
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OL: Thomas, Clarke, Jackson, Andrews, Runyan, Justice, Jean-Gilles, Herremans, Fraley, Darilek. IMHO it is rather the battle within this group that is interesting rather then the struggle to make the team. The only ones that are not a lock it seems are Fraley and Darilek
Darilek? No.
Your opinion.
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DL: Kearse, Cole, Howard, McDougle, Patterson, Walker, Bunkley, Rayburn, Ramsay. IMHO the struggle will be between Marshall, Rayburn and Ramsay. I think that Reid and JJ are willing to take one chance on a rookie. Though I feel to a degree it is depndent on how well Walker, Bunkley and Rayburn perform. If they dop very well, I think they will go for Ramsay. If not, then Marshall will be in, and Ramsay will move to the practice squad.
So they signed Jasper and have been holding on to Marshall and getting him experience, but their 7th round camp body wins the roster spot? Wrong.
Well holding and sending to NFL Europe does not automatically guarantee a roster spot. Who would you cut? What is your opinion? The competition is what: Rayburn, Ramsay, Marshall and Jasper for two spots?
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LB: Trotter, Jones, Barber, Gocong, McCoy, Gaither. Richmond looses his spot to Buckhalter, the fight for the last spot is between him and Gaither. Richmond is placed (if eligible) on the practice squad). The biggest surprise though (however I do not count on it) could be Jones being cut.
The team's best backup, Simoneau, will probably make the team. Gaither is another camp-body type player and at this point I'm convinced that you don't have any idea what's going on so I'm just disagreeing for the sake of disagreement.
Of course Dutchie has no idea in your opinion... you consider Simoneau the teams best back-up? Wow, then where did all the bitching over tha past few years come from? I would say that from the old trio of Adams, Jones and Simoneau only one makes the team... The primary reason for Simoneau making the team is if he is one of the leaders on special teams, and no replacement seems likely for that role.
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KR/PR: Perry and Bloom
This is Perry's shot at making the team, but I truly believe that Reid will cry like a baby if he has to let Mahe walk. I wouldn't count on it.
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Quote from: Bunkley78 on May 21, 2006, 08:03:27 PM
If Greg Lewis is quality depth, then who isn't quality depth? Considering Greg Lewis is the worst receiver currently on this roster.
Your ignorance never ceases to amaze me.
Explain. Because he is the worst, unless you can come up with a better name.
Quote from: DutchBird on May 21, 2006, 08:49:38 PM
What do you know about Buckhalter that we do not. I recall most people figuring he was done the first time he blew out his knee. Which was not quite right.
I stopped reading your drivel after this. The last time everyone counted him out he blew out his other knee. So actually, everyone was right. Stop embarrassing yourself.
Quote from: Bunkley78 on May 21, 2006, 10:08:47 PM
Quote from: EagleFeva on May 21, 2006, 08:39:26 PM
Quote from: Bunkley78 on May 21, 2006, 08:03:27 PM
If Greg Lewis is quality depth, then who isn't quality depth? Considering Greg Lewis is the worst receiver currently on this roster.
Your ignorance never ceases to amaze me.
Explain. Because he is the worst, unless you can come up with a better name.
You call Lewis the worst WR on the roster and
I need to explain? Please.
Quote from: EagleFeva on May 21, 2006, 10:42:52 PM
You call Lewis the worst WR on the roster and I need to explain? Please.
Brown better obviously. Pinkston, and Gaffney are both obviously better. Avant hasn't proven he is better, but it's safe to assume he won't be a Hoyda and he'll actually catch the ball unlike Lewis. Mccants is a better than Lewis as well. Bloom I don't count as a receiver because he'll make the team as a PR regardless if he sucks at receiver or not. I'm not including Baskett, because no one knows anything about him.
Did you see Lewis last year? He's a Hoyda. He won't fight for the ball, and when the ball does hit him in the gloves he drops it. He was a walk-on in college and an undrafted free agent. He stinks. The entire hype around him is because of his 2 playoff catches in 2004 when TO was out. Big farging deal, he hasn't done anything for this team. Mccants will do a lot more with playing time than Lewis has ever done. Mccants has actually caught some balls when he's been on the field.
When he gets the system down and if he gets some playing time he'll make a lot more plays than Lewis will.
How the hell is Pinkston better when we don't know if he can play again?
If he's healthy obviously.
Quote from: Bunkley78 on May 21, 2006, 11:53:17 PM
Quote from: EagleFeva on May 21, 2006, 10:42:52 PM
You call Lewis the worst WR on the roster and I need to explain? Please.
Brown better obviously. Pinkston, and Gaffney are both obviously better. Avant hasn't proven he is better, but it's safe to assume he won't be a Hoyda and he'll actually catch the ball unlike Lewis. Mccants is a better than Lewis as well. Bloom I don't count as a receiver because he'll make the team as a PR regardless if he sucks at receiver or not. I'm not including Baskett, because no one knows anything about him.
Did you see Lewis last year? He's a Hoyda. He won't fight for the ball, and when the ball does hit him in the gloves he drops it. He was a walk-on in college and an undrafted free agent. He stinks. The entire hype around him is because of his 2 playoff catches in 2004 when TO was out. Big farging deal, he hasn't done anything for this team. Mccants will do a lot more with playing time than Lewis has ever done. Mccants has actually caught some balls when he's been on the field.
When he gets the system down and if he gets some playing time he'll make a lot more plays than Lewis will.
Yawn.
Brown and Gaffney? Sure. No argument from me... but that's where it ends. With Pinkston hurting, Lewis is easily the 3rd best WR on this team (which is scary)... and even with a healthy Pinkston, it's debatable.
QuoteAvant hasn't proven he is better, but it's safe to assume he won't be a Hoyda and he'll actually catch the ball unlike Lewis.
So Avant hasn't proven to be better, but your reasoning is that it's "safe to assume"?? Rock solid logic right there.
QuoteMccants is a better than Lewis as well.
Based on his 5 catches for 87 yards last year, being cut and re-signed 15 times and his dreamy male model pics?
QuoteBloom I don't count as a receiver because he'll make the team as a PR regardless if he sucks at receiver or not. I'm not including Baskett, because no one knows anything about him.
So you realized that you couldn't even make an argument for either of these guys without sounding even dumber than you already have so you decided "not to include" them. Right.
QuoteHe's a Hoyda. He won't fight for the ball...
Look... I saw the play against the Seahawks too. But you know as well as I do that this is the only play you're basing this generic statement on.
Through the rest of your little rant... I kept looking for a single fact, but couldn't find one... only your misinformed opinions. You don't like him, and that's fine... but it doesn't give you the right to say dumb shtein.
Lewis was in a bad spot last year. He was supposed to be the #3 guy going into the season and because of injuries/complete jackassiveness... he ended up the #1 guy, which everyone and their momma knew was too much for him. Apparently, everyone but you. When he's put in a position of depth where he should be... he can come in and work the defenses LB's/nickel DB effectively instead of matching up against the #1 CB.
Avant has a lot more upside, and so does Mccants. If you want to make the argument that we don't have enough on them with the Eagles to judge whether or not they are better, then fine. You can't say they are worse though for the same reason.
Pinkston better than Greg Lewis can't be debated. Pinkston at least was able to hold up in a starters role. Something Greg Lewis proved he can't do.
How does McCants have more upside when he's done less than Lewis despite being in the league 2 more years? :sly
I'm making the argument that they aren't better based on the fact they haven't done shtein in the NFL at this point. I'm making the argument based on the fact that Lewis knows this offense more about this offense and more chemistry with McNabb than Gaffney, McCants, Avant, Baskett and Bloom combined.
Until they prove they are better... they are worse. Upside doesn't make you a better player until you realize that potential.
Mccants hasn't had the opportunity. I'm not saying he's TO, but I'm pretty confident in saying he's better than Greg Lewis. Just watching him on the field with the Skins and the Eagles, I see a better player than Lewis. It's a shame Greg Lewis is going to make the team, you're right.
Not because of his skills, but because of the extension he signed a couple years ago. IMO that's the only thing keeping him on this team. I don't care how well he knows the offense. He's not a good player. He isn't terrible, but he isn't good. He wasn't even all that special when he was the 3rd guy either.
Quote from: Bunkley78 on May 22, 2006, 01:47:46 AM
He isn't terrible
Then, he's not the worst on this Eagles team. The WR's are zesty enough that a couple of them have to be terrible.
their wr's are horrible...cant we at least all agree on that...the rest is all semantics
Quote from: Bunkley78 on May 22, 2006, 01:47:46 AM
Mccants hasn't had the opportunity. I'm not saying he's TO, but I'm pretty confident in saying he's better than Greg Lewis. Just watching him on the field with the Skins and the Eagles, I see a better player than Lewis. It's a shame Greg Lewis is going to make the team, you're right.
Not because of his skills, but because of the extension he signed a couple years ago. IMO that's the only thing keeping him on this team. I don't care how well he knows the offense. He's not a good player. He isn't terrible, but he isn't good. He wasn't even all that special when he was the 3rd guy either.
So in other words, your whole argument is that McCants, Avant and Bloom are better than Lewis, not because of what they've done on the field, but because you're "confident in saying" and that "it's safe to assume".
Now do you see where I'm coming from when I say that you're ignorance never ceases to amaze me?
McCants, Greg Lewis, Pinkston......ugggh....just the right ingredients for a wonderful $htein sandwhich.
How anyone can even argue that McCants is better than anyone is astonishing.
This reminds me of the giant douche / turd sandwich episode of "South Park".
Quote from: EagleFeva on May 22, 2006, 09:37:21 AM
Quote from: Bunkley78 on May 22, 2006, 01:47:46 AM
Mccants hasn't had the opportunity. I'm not saying he's TO, but I'm pretty confident in saying he's better than Greg Lewis. Just watching him on the field with the Skins and the Eagles, I see a better player than Lewis. It's a shame Greg Lewis is going to make the team, you're right.
Not because of his skills, but because of the extension he signed a couple years ago. IMO that's the only thing keeping him on this team. I don't care how well he knows the offense. He's not a good player. He isn't terrible, but he isn't good. He wasn't even all that special when he was the 3rd guy either.
So in other words, your whole argument is that McCants, Avant and Bloom are better than Lewis, not because of what they've done on the field, but because you're "confident in saying" and that "it's safe to assume".
Now do you see where I'm coming from when I say that you're ignorance never ceases to amaze me?
Nope, still don't.
Let me ask you. If you knew right now you had to get rid of Avant or Lewis, which one would you get rid of? You couldn't bring them back either. When you get rid of them they are gone for good.
and I said I didn't count Bloom.
Get rid of Avant or Lewis? Hmmm. I choose Pinkston.
Quote from: Bunkley78 on May 22, 2006, 01:56:14 PM
When you get rid of them they are gone for good.
Yeah, because the Eagles never bring back former players. Ass.
Quote from: Bunkley78 on May 22, 2006, 01:56:14 PM
Quote from: EagleFeva on May 22, 2006, 09:37:21 AM
Quote from: Bunkley78 on May 22, 2006, 01:47:46 AM
Mccants hasn't had the opportunity. I'm not saying he's TO, but I'm pretty confident in saying he's better than Greg Lewis. Just watching him on the field with the Skins and the Eagles, I see a better player than Lewis. It's a shame Greg Lewis is going to make the team, you're right.
Not because of his skills, but because of the extension he signed a couple years ago. IMO that's the only thing keeping him on this team. I don't care how well he knows the offense. He's not a good player. He isn't terrible, but he isn't good. He wasn't even all that special when he was the 3rd guy either.
So in other words, your whole argument is that McCants, Avant and Bloom are better than Lewis, not because of what they've done on the field, but because you're "confident in saying" and that "it's safe to assume".
Now do you see where I'm coming from when I say that you're ignorance never ceases to amaze me?
Nope, still don't.
Let me ask you. If you knew right now you had to get rid of Avant or Lewis, which one would you get rid of? You couldn't bring them back either. When you get rid of them they are gone for good.
and I said I didn't count Bloom.
I don't have to get rid of Lewis or Avant because I can get rid of McCants.
QB: McNabb, Detmer Garcia
HB: Westbrook, Moats, Mahe, Buckhalter
FB: Parry
WR:FA (june 1 cut) Brown, Gaffney, Pinkston, Lewis, Bloom
TE: Smith, Schobel, Bartrum
OL: Thomas, Clarke, Jackson, Andrews, Runyan, Justice, Jean-Gilles, Herremans, Fraley, Darilek
DL: Kearse, Cole, Howard, McDougle, Patterson, Walker, Bunkley, Rayburn, Marshall
LB: Trotter, Jones, Barber, Gocong, McCoy, Gaither
DB: Brown, Sheppard, Hood, Strickland, Ware, Dawkins, Lewis, Mikell, Considine
K/P: Akers, Johnson
Quote from: EagleFeva on May 22, 2006, 04:21:15 PM
I don't have to get rid of Lewis or Avant because I can get rid of McCants.
Yes, you sure McCan!
F---
Quote from: stalker on May 26, 2006, 02:06:56 PM
WR:FA (june 1 cut)
Who do you think is going to be cut for June 1 that could possibly matter? Patten has been discussed already. I haven't heard a single other name that comes even close to him, and he can go scratch. The Eagles are plenty bad enough at WR without him.
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Quote from: stalker on May 26, 2006, 02:06:56 PM
WR:FA (june 1 cut)
Who do you think is going to be cut for June 1 that could possibly matter? Patten has been discussed already. I haven\\\'t heard a single other name that comes even close to him, and he can go scratch. The Eagles are plenty bad enough at WR without him.
I will let you know in mid-may
I hope you've let us know how that whole time travel thing works out for you.
Quote from: PhillyandBCEagles on April 30, 2006, 04:32:05 PM
Obviously things will change with June 1st cuts but this is still fun to do.
QB: McNabb, Garcia, Chang
HB: Westbrook, Moats, Perry
FB: Tapeh
WR: Brown, Gaffney, Pinkston, Lewis, Avant, Bloom
TE: Smith, Schobel, Bartrum
OL: Thomas, Clarke, Jackson, Andrews, Runyan, Justice, Jean-Gilles, Herremans, Fraley, Darilek
DL: Kearse, Cole, Howard, McDougle, Patterson, Walker, Bunkley, Rayburn, Marshall
LB: Trotter, Jones, Barber, Gocong, McCoy, Gaither, Richmond
DB: Brown, Sheppard, Hood, Strickland, Ware, Dawkins, Lewis, Mikell, Considine
K/P: Akers, Johnson
Revised predictions:
QB: McNabb, Garcia, Chang
RB: Westbrook, Moats, Buckhalter, Mahe, Tapeh
WR: Brown, Lelie (BELIEVE!!), Gaffney, Lewis, Avant, Baskett
TE: Smith, Schobel, Bartrum
OL: Thomas, Herremans, Jackson, Andrews, Runyan, Justice, Jean-Gilles, Fraley, Darilek
DL: Kearse, Howard, Cole, McDougle, Patterson, Bunkley, Walker, Marshall, Ramsey
LB: Trotter, McCoy, Richmond, Simoneau, Gocong, Barber, Gaither
DB: Sheppard, Brown, Hood, Ware, Hanson, Dawkins, Lewis, Considine, Reed
K/P: Akers, Johnson
IR/PUP/whatever: Pinkston, Bloom, Perry (yeah he'd probably be good to go earlier but I say stick him on the PUP so he can be activated in week 9 after the inevitable injury to Buck)
PS: Davis, Thorn, Strickland, Jamison, Outlaw, whoever else we can shake off other team's cuts
Sitting at home by the phone waiting for one of the QBs to go on IR: Detmer
Quote from: PhillyandBCEagles on August 11, 2006, 03:11:50 AM
Quote from: PhillyandBCEagles on April 30, 2006, 04:32:05 PM
Obviously things will change with June 1st cuts but this is still fun to do.
QB: McNabb, Garcia, Chang
HB: Westbrook, Moats, Perry
FB: Tapeh
WR: Brown, Gaffney, Pinkston, Lewis, Avant, Bloom
TE: Smith, Schobel, Bartrum
OL: Thomas, Clarke, Jackson, Andrews, Runyan, Justice, Jean-Gilles, Herremans, Fraley, Darilek
DL: Kearse, Cole, Howard, McDougle, Patterson, Walker, Bunkley, Rayburn, Marshall
LB: Trotter, Jones, Barber, Gocong, McCoy, Gaither, Richmond
DB: Brown, Sheppard, Hood, Strickland, Ware, Dawkins, Lewis, Mikell, Considine
K/P: Akers, Johnson
Revised predictions:
QB: McNabb, Garcia, Chang
RB: Westbrook, Moats, Buckhalter, Mahe, Tapeh
WR: Brown, Lelie (BELIEVE!!), Gaffney, Lewis, Avant, Baskett
TE: Smith, Schobel, Bartrum
OL: Thomas, Herremans, Jackson, Andrews, Runyan, Justice, Jean-Gilles, Fraley, Darilek
DL: Kearse, Howard, Cole, McDougle, Patterson, Bunkley, Walker, Marshall, Ramsey
LB: Trotter, McCoy, Richmond, Simoneau, Gocong, Barber, Gaither
DB: Sheppard, Brown, Hood, Ware, Hanson, Dawkins, Lewis, Considine, Reed
K/P: Akers, Johnson
IR/PUP/whatever: Pinkston, Bloom, Perry (yeah he'd probably be good to go earlier but I say stick him on the PUP so he can be activated in week 9 after the inevitable injury to Buck)
PS: Davis, Thorn, Strickland, Jamison, Outlaw, whoever else we can shake off other team's cuts
Sitting at home by the phone waiting for one of the QBs to go on IR: Detmer
Eagles may make that trade Fraley for Lee Suggs, so with that i see Buckhalter either out or on the PUP list till the middle of the season. Lelie i dont see the more Baskett gets the spotlight. I see McCants making the team over Glew
QB: McNabb, Garcia, and I think they will pick up a 3rd after cuts. (3)
RB: Westbrook, Moats, Buckhalter, Mahe, Parry (5)
WR: Brown, Baskett, Avant, J.Gaffney, D. McCants (5)
TE: Smith, Schobel, Bartrum (3)
OL: Thomas, Herremans, Jackson, Andrews, Runyan, Justice, Jean-Gilles, Fraley, S.Young (9)
DL: Kearse, Howard, Cole, McDougle, J.Thomas Patterson, Bunkley, Walker, Rayburn, Ramsey (10)
LB: Trotter, McCoy, D.Jones, Gaither, Barber, Gocong, D. Roper (7)
DB: Sheppard, Brown, Hood, Strickland, Ware, Dawkins, Lewis, Considine, Reed (9)
K/P: Akers, Johnson (2)
RB NOTE: Now if Buckhalter cant come back I look for them to pick someone up after cuts happen. Like a (LaBranden Toefield, Alvin Pearman, Lee Suggs, Artrose Pinner, Shaun Bryson, Cedric Cobbs, Musa Smith, Noah Herron) And I know they only usally keep 3 RB but with Mahe experance and Return ability and the want to run the ball more I believe u need an extra running back this season escpeally with Westbrook and Moats injury history.
WR NOTE: Now I think thier is a big chance that Gaffney gets cut. And u could put G. Lewis or Pinkston in thier. But I think they still have thier hands in a Lelie trade.
D NOTE: Now this D line is the Fastest and Deepest I ever remember seeing in this leauge. We will be lead by this unit all season!
so you are keeping 5 WRs with the trade for Lelie and dump Gaffney?
Quote from: phillywin2k5 on August 11, 2006, 10:51:06 AM
so you are keeping 5 WRs with the trade for Lelie and dump Gaffney?
Sounds like a plan.
McCants should make the squad, because he's very good on special teams coverage. Plus I think he's a better receiver than Greg Lewis..
hell if they can get Musa Smith im all for it!
I am def. all 4 Musa!! Looked great yesterday. Against reserves but showed he can catch the ball also with 5 catches. And with J. Lewis/ M Anderson and 4th round pick PJ Daniels. I dont c him making the roster. Would def. throw a 7th to insure we do pick him up.
I'm assuming this isn't even a rumor as much as you people talking out your respective asses?
U assume right. Just looking around for other RB options if Buckhalter and other backs stay injured.
IF buckhalter stays injured?
Oh come on. What are the odds that Buck doesn't see a single snap for a fourth season in six years.
I think Buckhalter will be a stud in the 1st quarter of the Texans game!
Here's my revised:
QB: McNabb, Garcia, NeckBeard (3)
RB: Westbrook, Moats, Buckhalter, Mahe, Tapeh (5)
WR: Brown, Baskett, Gaffney ,Avant, J.Gaffney, D. McCants (6)
TE: Smith, Schobel, Bartrum (3)
OL: Thomas, Herremans, Jackson, Andrews, Runyan, Justice, Jean-Gilles, Fraley, S.Young (9)
DL: Kearse, Howard, Cole, McDougle, J.Thomas, Patterson, Bunkley, Walker, Rayburn, Ramsey (10)
LB: Trotter, McCoy, D.Jones, Gaither, Barber, Gocong(6)
DB: Sheppard, Brown, Hood, Strickland, Ware, Dawkins, Lewis, Considine, Reed (9)
K/P: Akers, Johnson (2)
Pinkston goes on POP, as does Bloom. I'm actually curious to see who makes the roster, specifically at WR and LB (since it's hard to see them letting Marky Mark go, but they love Gaither and Gocong they spent a high pick on). I was counting on JR not making the team, but with how he's played he has to make it...
i think Buck will stay healthy to start the season, i just think that any talent he had when he was drafted is long gone.
Quote from: mikey418 on August 13, 2006, 10:12:03 AM
Here's my revised:
QB: McNabb, Garcia, NeckBeard (3)
RB: Westbrook, Moats, Buckhalter, Mahe, Tapeh (5)
WR: Brown, Baskett, Gaffney ,Avant, J.Gaffney, D. McCants (6)
TE: Smith, Schobel, Bartrum (3)
OL: Thomas, Herremans, Jackson, Andrews, Runyan, Justice, Jean-Gilles, Fraley, S.Young (9)
DL: Kearse, Howard, Cole, McDougle, J.Thomas, Patterson, Bunkley, Walker, Rayburn, Ramsey (10)
LB: Trotter, McCoy, D.Jones, Gaither, Barber, Gocong(6)
DB: Sheppard, Brown, Hood, Strickland, Ware, Dawkins, Lewis, Considine, Reed (9)
K/P: Akers, Johnson (2)
Pinkston goes on POP, as does Bloom. I'm actually curious to see who makes the roster, specifically at WR and LB (since it's hard to see them letting Marky Mark go, but they love Gaither and Gocong they spent a high pick on). I was counting on JR not making the team, but with how he's played he has to make it...
You have Gaffney twice.
Pinkston cant go on PUP.
Gaffney is twice the reciever than anyone else on the roster. Therefore he gets 2 spots.
Quote from: Dillen37 on August 13, 2006, 12:51:52 PM
Quote from: mikey418 on August 13, 2006, 10:12:03 AM
Here's my revised:
QB: McNabb, Garcia, NeckBeard (3)
RB: Westbrook, Moats, Buckhalter, Mahe, Tapeh (5)
WR: Brown, Baskett, Gaffney ,Avant, J.Gaffney, D. McCants (6)
TE: Smith, Schobel, Bartrum (3)
OL: Thomas, Herremans, Jackson, Andrews, Runyan, Justice, Jean-Gilles, Fraley, S.Young (9)
DL: Kearse, Howard, Cole, McDougle, J.Thomas, Patterson, Bunkley, Walker, Rayburn, Ramsey (10)
LB: Trotter, McCoy, D.Jones, Gaither, Barber, Gocong(6)
DB: Sheppard, Brown, Hood, Strickland, Ware, Dawkins, Lewis, Considine, Reed (9)
K/P: Akers, Johnson (2)
Pinkston goes on POP, as does Bloom. I'm actually curious to see who makes the roster, specifically at WR and LB (since it's hard to see them letting Marky Mark go, but they love Gaither and Gocong they spent a high pick on). I was counting on JR not making the team, but with how he's played he has to make it...
You have Gaffney twice.
Pinkston cant go on PUP.
why cant Pinkston go on the PUP list?
He's too skinny.
Quote from: phillywin2k5 on August 13, 2006, 01:28:01 PM
why cant Pinkston go on the PUP list?
He wasnt on the PUP on the first day of TC so he isnt eligible.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on August 13, 2006, 12:54:42 PM
Gaffney is twice the reciever than anyone else on the roster. Therefore he gets 2 spots.
Hah :-D
Quote from: Dillen37 on August 13, 2006, 02:05:10 PM
Quote from: phillywin2k5 on August 13, 2006, 01:28:01 PM
why cant Pinkston go on the PUP list?
He wasnt on the PUP on the first day of TC so he isnt eligible.
he and Buckhalter are slated for the IR then. No way Reid takes a chance on cutting a good young player for either of these bums.
Buck was on PUP to start TC. :)
Once you're off, you can't go back on until next season.... which Buckhalter certainly will do.
Quote from: SunMoTzu on August 13, 2006, 12:40:18 PM
i think Buck will stay healthy to start the season, i just think that any talent he had when he was drafted is long gone.
that just about sums up the situation on Buck no matter how much we admire his courage to come back...
that would sum buck up if he actually started seasons....but he doesnt
today's cuts:
QuotePlayers Cut On Aug. 26
POS PLAYER COMMENT
OT Calvin Armstrong- Rookie Pat McCoy emerged quickly
CB Matt Clark- Flashed early, but Eagles deep here
K E.J. Cochrane- Good leg, needs consistency
WR Carl Ford- Never stood out
WR Jermaine Jamison- Good size and a nice prospect
DT Ed Jasper- Ramsey, Bunkley too tough
RB Marty Johnson- Good fill-in RB in summer
WR J.J. Outlaw- Quick, but raw
CB Brandon Pinderhughes- Numbers here
OT Dejuan Skinner- Eagles are deep up front
SS Scott Ware- Good hitter, needs to develop
no real surprises here.
QuotePlayers Cut On Aug. 26
POS PLAYER COMMENT
OT Calvin Armstrong- Rookie Pat McCoy emerged quickly
CB Matt Clark- Flashed early, but Eagles deep here
K E.J. Cochrane- Good leg, needs consistency
WR Carl Ford- Never stood out
WR Jermaine Jamison- Good size and a nice prospect
DT Ed Jasper- Ramsey, Bunkley too tough
RB Marty Johnson- Good fill-in RB in summer
WR J.J. Outlaw- Quick, but raw
CB Brandon Pinderhughes- Numbers here
OT Dejuan Skinner- Eagles are deep up front
SS Scott Ware- Good hitter, needs to develop
Somewhere, rjs has a chubby.
And somewhere Dio pours out some MD 20/20 in honor of his boy getting the axe.
Who are the next 4 on the chopping block?
I'll say Sampy, Darrell Lee, Stefan Rodgers, Michael Gasperson.
I think Sampy will be on the PS so maybe they leave him around until the final cuts to minimize the chance he gets picked up.
Lee, Rodgers and Gasperson are good bets.
But they don't really have to cut anyone. They still have the IR moves to make.
Richmond - IR
Clarke - IR
Bloom - IR ?
Then they'd only have to cut one.
PS...
I think Ed Jasper ends up in a Giants uniform. They have nothing at DT.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 26, 2006, 09:28:08 PM
PS...
I think Ed Jasper ends up in a Giants uniform. They have nothing at DT.
I was thinking the same thing.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 26, 2006, 09:28:08 PM
PS...
I think Ed Jasper ends up in a Giants uniform. They have nothing at DT.
talk about added intensity to the 9/17 matchup!
so are the birds cutting some really good players or not?
They're keeping all their white linebackers just to piss you off.
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 26, 2006, 11:00:20 PM
so are the birds cutting some really good players or not?
Impossible, they don't have any. The taterskins took them all.
QuotePlayers Cut On Aug. 26
POS PLAYER COMMENT
OT Calvin Armstrong
CB Matt Clark- Flashed early, but Eagles deep here
K E.J. Cochrane- Good leg, needs consistency
WR Carl Ford- Never stood out
WR Jermaine Jamison- Good size and a nice prospect
DT Ed Jasper- Ramsey, Bunkley too tough
RB Marty Johnson- Good fill-in RB in summer
WR J.J. Outlaw- Quick, but raw
CB Brandon Pinderhughes- Numbers here
OT Dejuan Skinner- Eagles are deep up front
SS Scott Ware- Good hitter, needs to develop
Finally, I can stop the farging sponsorship gimmick!
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 26, 2006, 09:28:08 PM
PS...
I think Ed Jasper ends up in a Giants uniform. They have nothing at DT.
I figure the Skins would take a stab at him too. The depth is horrible.
A bidding war!
We have to get down to 75 by tomorrow and 53 by saturday. Thats 26 players that need to be cut.
I'll make my prediction on the cuts and PS. If anyone wants to post theirs that would be cool too.
Cut or practice squad:
Dexter Wynn
Darrell Lee
Keyonta Marshall
Torrance Daniels(sadly)
Dedrick Roper
Stefan Rodgers
Koy Detmer
Timmy Chang
Bruce Perry
Stephen Spach
Andy Thorn
Michael Gasperson
Bill Sampy
Justin Jenkins
Nick Cole
Jason Short
IR:
Jeremy Bloom
Adrien Clarke
Greg Richmond
Chris Gocong
Jason Davis
That's only 21 total including cuts/PS and IR. I'm having rouble deciding on the final 5. Here are some guys I have on the bubble that could turn out to be one of the 5 remaining cuts:
Scott Young - He's probably gone, but with Clarke having back surgery you never know if they'll want to keep an extra guard on the roster.
Juqua Thomas - He probably makes it, but they have to cut one d-lineman if not a couple. They have so many quality defensive lineman. That is why I think they need to trade one to bring in a receiver. If only we could move Rayburn. I don't think the Eagles would cut McDougle, and he's useless in a trade with his rib injury so I think the Eagles just keep him on the roster and wait it out.
Sam Rayburn - Call me crazy, but I think they'll PS Rayburn before Ramsey. Ramsey is younger and has shown a ton of promise. They'd be insane to cut Ramsey, and if it comes down to Ramsey or Rayburn, you have to keep Ramsey. I don't care if Rayburn "knows the system." He's not that good. He probably makes the team along with Ramsey or gets traded before they would cut him, but again, they have to make some tough cuts this year. It wouldn't be a total shock if Rayburn was cut.
Jabar Gaffney - They are going to have to cut either Gaffney, Lewis or McCants. Lewis sealed his spot on the team on friday so it's down to Gaffney and McCants. I think with McCants being in the system a year longer and being very good on special teams, he has the slight edge. It's funny how fast things change because last week I was sure Lewis was gone and Gaffney was in. Now it's the other way around.
Darnerian McCants - Same reason as above. One of Gaffney or McCants has to go. I think it will be Gaffney, but you never know. McCants is on the bubble.
Todd Pinkston - IR is more likely than being cut. The Eagles have that loyalty factor, and my guess is Pinkston probably ends up on IR. I just don't get the feel that he is ready to play football again, and won't be ready in 2 weeks. If he's not effective against the Jets then there is no way he's on the active roster this season. I'll guess IR.
Matt Ware - Tough to say if he makes the team. My initial thought is yes, but he pretty much has sucked since he's been drafted. It wouldn't be a total shock if he was cut.
Donald Strickland - I think it's likely that either Strickland or Hanson will go. I wouldn't be totally shocked if they kept both either though. IMO Hanson has been impressive enough to make the team, but with that said, they both are in the bubble, since anyone who isn't close to a lock is on the bubble. Hanson hasn't done enough to be close to a lock yet.
Joselio Hanson - See above.
Thomas Tapeh - Will they keep 2 FBs? With Buckhalter impressing and pretty much securing a spot on the team, will they put Tapeh on the practice squad? It's hard to say at this point. If they only keep one FB it will surely be Parry. Tough call here.
That's about it from me. Thoughts?
Quote from: EagleFeva on August 26, 2006, 03:02:08 PM
Somewhere, rjs has a chubby.
Not quite yet. I need to see Scott Young's ass in the unemployment line. Then I'll pop a rager.
yeah, if Koy and Chang are on your cut list who is the 3rd qb.
Quote from: MURP on August 28, 2006, 09:33:59 AM
yeah, if Koy and Chang are on your cut list who is the 3rd qb.
If Koy and Chang are the two options, cut them both. It's not as if someone else will scoop them up.
If need be, you give one of them a call and bring them back. You could even park Chang on the PS.
It sure would be nice if the Eagles had an NFL-caliber 3rd QB, but they don't... so why not cut them both?
Quote from: FFatPatt on August 28, 2006, 10:23:40 AM
It sure would be nice if the Eagles had an NFL-caliber 3rd QB, but they don't... so why not cut them both?
Not sure why I would need to explain this to anyone, but the obvious answer is that the 3rd QB has a gameday roster exemption and god forbid your first two QB's are injured, you wouldnt want to have to put another positional player back there if you dont have too.
Yes, but the 3rd QB still takes up a spot on the 53 regardless, and Koy has certainly proven that if the team has to rely on him to come into a game, they're screwed. Bartrum has been the emergency QB in the past, and I'd see no reason not to do it that way for this season.
I'm not against Chang making the roster as the 3rd QB, but I just think he's fine on the P/S, and for the one game the Eagles had to do without McNabb and Garcia, should that event occur, they'd just have to hand off the ball and take their medicine.
It's sad that I see it as a possibility, but Koy sucks and Chang is not much/any better... he just has *some* upside.
Earth to FF. The 3rd QB doesnt count towards the 45 players on a gameday roster. Putting the best long snapper in the league at QB for no reason instead of Chang or Koy is ridiculous.
Earth to MURP. The 3rd QB does count towards the 53-man overall roster. Using a roster spot on a mostly useless QB for no reason instead of on an NFL-caliber player or a player with upside is ridiculous.
a player has to clear waivers to go on the practice squad. so if you have a 3rd QB with any talent...he'd never make it to the PS.
i can't believe i am even witnissing this.
if the common practice was to only have 2 QBs on the roster, the birds may have missed the playoffs in 2002
Quote from: Wingspan on August 28, 2006, 11:53:25 AM
a player has to clear waivers to go on the practice squad.
You don't say. Really? I had no idea! Wow! Holy schnikes!
Quote from: Wingspan on August 28, 2006, 11:53:25 AM
so if you have a 3rd QB with any talent...he'd never make it to the PS.
...which the Eagles do not.
Quote from: Wingspan on August 28, 2006, 11:53:25 AM
if the common practice was to only have 2 QBs on the roster, the birds may have missed the playoffs in 2002
A.J. had some ability, unlike any of the 3rd QB options we have right now. In fact, A.J. was truly the #2 and Koy just had to be the #2 so he could hold. Thankfully, the Eagles are working themselves out of needing to use a roster spot on a guy that's useless except for his ability to hold.
And yes, I'm aware Koy had the game of his life in 2002, before he got injured. Even a blind squirrel...
In an ideal world, the Eagles would absolutely have 3 QB's... but it's not really that important to keep anyone that can't help your team win, even if it means only having 2 QB's on the active roster.
caring this much about a 3rd qb makes me want to stick knitting needles in your eyes
Quote from: FFatPatt on August 28, 2006, 11:50:03 AM
Earth to MURP. The 3rd QB does count towards the 53-man overall roster. Using a roster spot on a mostly useless QB for no reason instead of on an NFL-caliber player or a player with upside is ridiculous.
id sooner put Dirk the Daring back there then Koy if Garcia goes down. In any case the game would be lost if it were before 2 minutes left in the game and the Eagles need to score to win or tie the game, having to drive 80 yards.
Quote from: Lil' Miss SunMo on August 28, 2006, 12:08:53 PM
caring this much about a 3rd qb makes me want to stick knitting needles in your eyes
Why do you have knitting needles? Freak.
i took them from my grammy's room when i smothered her the other night
[IGY] This whole thing wouldn't have an issue if they had picked up Randle El like I instructed them to do.....dook. ARE can chuck it over those mountains. Werd life.[/IGY]
Quote from: PhillyPhaninDC on August 28, 2006, 12:19:37 PM
[IGY] This whole thing wouldn't have an issue if they had picked up Randle El like I instructed them to do.....dook. ARE can chuck it over those mountains. Werd life.[/IGY]
Sadly, ARE would be a better option than Detmer or Chang.
Quote from: FFatPatt on August 28, 2006, 11:50:03 AM
Earth to MURP. The 3rd QB does count towards the 53-man overall roster. Using a roster spot on a mostly useless QB for no reason instead of on an NFL-caliber player or a player with upside is ridiculous.
the obvious difference is that the 3rd QB is available to play on gameday while the others left off the gameday roster are not. Stop trying to make some ridiculous notion that it is better to put Mike Bartrum and keep a 9th LB on the roster rather than a 3rd QB.
can you imagine what would happen to a coach were he to only dress two qb's and ended up needing a third one and lost a game because of it....especially reid who as murp pointed out was in need of a 3rd qb just a few years ago
Then Reid should sign a 3rd QB that's actually significantly better than Mike Bartrum.
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 28, 2006, 12:41:25 PM
can you imagine what would happen to a coach were he to only dress two qb's and ended up needing a third one and lost a game because of it....especially reid who as murp pointed out was in need of a 3rd qb just a few years ago
I believe the Broncos did it last year. Only kept 2 Qbs, that is.
Plummer and Bradlee Van Pelt.
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 28, 2006, 12:41:25 PM
can you imagine what would happen to a coach were he to only dress two qb's and ended up needing a third one and lost a game because of it....especially reid who as murp pointed out was in need of a 3rd qb just a few years ago
Didn't Saint Joe Gibbs do that and ended up having Brian Mitchell at QB against the Birds?
the body bag game.
Here's the breakdown of (vomitastic!):
QB (3) - McNabb, Garcia, Detmer
HB (4) - Westbrook, Buckhalter, Mahe, Moats/Perry
FB (1) - Parry/Tapeh still not distinguishing from each other
WR (6) - Brown, Baskett, Avant, Lewis, McCants, Gaffney/Pinkston (note: predicts Bloom to IR)
TE (3) - Smith, Schobel, Bartrum
OL (9) - Thomas, Herremans, Jackson, Andrews, Runyan, Fraley, Jean-Gilles, Justice, Darilek/Young/P. McCoy
DL (10) - Howard, Kearse, Cole, McDougle, Thomas, Patterson, Bunkley, Walker, Ramsey, Rayburn
LB (7) - Trotter, McCoy, Jones, Barber, Simoneau, Gaither, Roper/Daniels (note: predicts Gocong to IR)
CB (4) - Sheppard, Brown, Hood, Hanson/Strickland/Wynn
S (4) - Dawkins, Lewis, Considine, Reed/Mikell
K/P (2) - Akers, Johnson
So, according to him, the following players are "on the bubble" - everyone else is a lock one way or the other:
Moats
Perry
Parry
Tapeh
Gaffney
Pinkston
Darilek
Young
P. McCoy
Roper
Daniels
Hanson
Strickland
Wynn
Reed
Mikell (http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/news/newsDetail.jsp?id=54189Spadaro's%20current%20projection%5B/url)
I'm okay with the list with the exception of Moats, Tapeh and Pinkston. If Moats and/or Tapeh don't make it, I'll be pissed, if Pinky doesn't have some kind of miracle comeback game and demonstrates he is 100% back next game, and makes the team, I'll be pissed.
the fact that Mahe is a lock over guys like Moats and Perry is an absolute disgrace
Quote from: Lil' Miss SunMo on August 28, 2006, 03:16:14 PM
the fact that Mahe is a lock over guys like Moats and Perry is an absolute disgrace
Mahe is the closest thing this team has to Vince Papale.
i wish he was the closest thing they had to Freddie Mercury
Quote from: Lil' Miss SunMo on August 28, 2006, 03:44:02 PM
i wish he was the closest thing they had to Freddie Mercury
1. A singer of some classic hits
2. A dirty homo dying of AIDS
3. Actually already dead of AIDS
4. Both 1. and 2.
5. Both 1. and 3.
??
i'll leave it up to your imagination
I think the answer is obviously #1. Go Reno!
QuoteChiefs | Smoker waived
Mon, 28 Aug 2006 11:50:12 -0700
The Kansas City Chiefs have waived QB Jeff Smoker
Our new 3rd string QB.
He was an Eagle for all of 37 minutes last year. BRING MURP'S BOY BACK!
As a rule of thumb, I don't want the Eagles to sign any QB's that any :CF staff member has intercepted at any point in time. I think that's only fair if we want the Eagles to remain competitive.
If McNabb and Garcia got hurt in a game and we kept 2 QBs, then we have a better chance to win putting Mahe at QB than we would if Detmer had came in to play.
parts of that spads list give me wood, but too much of it makes me want to toss my cookies.
A.J. Feeley was cut by the Chargers. Would anyone be interested? I'd pick him up and draft a guy next year.
Yes. Get him now and cut Detmer and Chang loose. (not kidding)
Quote from: FFatPatt on August 28, 2006, 09:26:01 PM
Yes. Get him now and cut Detmer and Chang loose. (not kidding)
Agreed.
I concur.
I hate you all.
You're only saying that because you're a RazorGator puppet.
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on August 28, 2006, 09:30:03 PM
You're only saying that because you're a RazorGator puppet.
What a loser........
It was one thing to ruin a retarded thread started by you, dude. I wouldn't push it in here if I were you.
why does bloom deserve a spot on the roster?
Quote from: Steiner on August 28, 2006, 09:34:26 PM
why does bloom deserve a spot on the roster?
He doesn't. IR all the way.
Quote from: Steiner on August 28, 2006, 09:34:26 PM
why does bloom deserve a spot on the roster?
IR, Charley.
Quote from: FFatPatt on August 28, 2006, 09:26:01 PM
Yes. Get him now and cut Detmer and Chang loose. (not kidding)
Yep. Let's do it.
Quote from: Dillen37 on August 28, 2006, 09:24:10 PM
A.J. Feeley was cut by the Chargers. Would anyone be interested? I'd pick him up and draft a guy next year.
Get him.
Get him now.
I agree. He's a very good #3 QB.
But that takes up a valuable roster spot. They better not cut Ramsey.
Quote from: Bunkley78 on August 29, 2006, 01:35:04 AM
But that takes up a valuable roster spot.
Just shut up. Now.
Quote from: Bunkley78 on August 29, 2006, 01:35:04 AM
I agree. He's a very good #3 QB.
But that takes up a valuable roster spot. They better not cut Ramsey.
If Ramsey canT make the JETS, thats just SAD.
I hope that's sarcasm.
Doh my fault i thought he was talking about Pat Ramsey on the Jets not LeJuan Ramsey
Quote from: FFatPatt on August 28, 2006, 03:12:29 PM
Here's the breakdown of (vomitastic!):
QB (3) - McNabb, Garcia, Detmer
HB (4) - Westbrook, Buckhalter, Mahe, Moats/Perry
FB (1) - Parry/Tapeh still not distinguishing from each other
WR (6) - Brown, Baskett, Avant, Lewis, McCants, Gaffney/Pinkston (note: predicts Bloom to IR)
TE (3) - Smith, Schobel, Bartrum
OL (9) - Thomas, Herremans, Jackson, Andrews, Runyan, Fraley, Jean-Gilles, Justice, Darilek/Young/P. McCoy
DL (10) - Howard, Kearse, Cole, McDougle, Thomas, Patterson, Bunkley, Walker, Ramsey, Rayburn
LB (7) - Trotter, McCoy, Jones, Barber, Simoneau, Gaither, Roper/Daniels (note: predicts Gocong to IR)
CB (4) - Sheppard, Brown, Hood, Hanson/Strickland/Wynn
S (4) - Dawkins, Lewis, Considine, Reed/Mikell
K/P (2) - Akers, Johnson
So, according to him, the following players are "on the bubble" - everyone else is a lock one way or the other:
Moats
Perry
Parry
Tapeh
Gaffney
Pinkston
Darilek
Young
P. McCoy
Roper
Daniels
Hanson
Strickland
Wynn
Reed
Mikell
(http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/news/newsDetail.jsp?id=54189Spadaro's%20current%20projection%5B/url)
With Stallworth, what WR make the roster and who starts...
I think Stallworth starts week 1, even if he only plays 15-20 downs.
As mentioned on the Stallworth thread, I think this spells cut for Gaffney and Pinkston, although Pinkston could also be put on IR. Either way, I don't see how either of them make the 53 now.
Quote from: 4and26 on August 29, 2006, 10:22:08 AM
With Stallworth, what WR make the roster and who starts...
Gaffney gets cut, Pinky gets an injury settlement.
Starters:
Brown & Stallworth, Baskett in the slot until he hits the rookie wall.
Baskett in the slot until he hits the rookie wall
he already has
Agreed. Baskett has really only learned the "X" position so far and will probably only play in select packages as Stallworth learns the offense. Avant has been focusing on the slot and will get more playing time than Hank this year.
Quote from: Cerevant on August 29, 2006, 10:27:49 AM
Quote from: 4and26 on August 29, 2006, 10:22:08 AM
With Stallworth, what WR make the roster and who starts...
Gaffney gets cut, Pinky gets an injury settlement.
Starters:
Brown & Stallworth, Baskett in the slot until he hits the rookie wall.
Can Stallworth pick enough up to make an impact on opening day?
impact who knows....more of an impact than hank baskett....stallworth sweats out more talent on a daily basis than hank baskett has ever had in his body in his entire life
Merrill Reese doesn't think the Eagles should go after A.J. Feeley. I'm sold on Detmer now!!
EDIT: Nevermind. I think the man has finally lost it. Fe just called Josh Parry "one of the more dependable blocking backs in the NFC". Ha! HAHA! HAHAHAHAHAAAHHAAHAHHHAHAHHAHAAA
More comedy from poor ol' Merrill: "Hank Baskett is going to be a big, BIG-TIME player." He's comparing Baskett's possible value to the undrafted Willie Parker. ohhhkay.
Supposedly Minnesota is interested in Feeley. Goodbye Mike McMahon.
And I hope Tapeh really shows something on Friday. Enough to have Reid send Josh packing.
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 29, 2006, 11:02:27 AM
impact who knows....more of an impact than hank baskett....stallworth sweats out more talent on a daily basis than hank baskett has ever had in his body in his entire life
Man why all of the hate towards Baskett? I know he hasn't done anything yet, but is it out of the realm of possibilities that the Eagles may have gotten a steal. He is in a better position now not having to be a starter, you know maybe just maybe he could be a solid NFL WR.
Man why all of the hate towards Baskett?
its not hate....its reality
1. he wasnt drafted
2. someone traded him for billy mcmullen
just one of those and your nfl future is iffy....but both of them?...i hope hank got his degree
Mikey's 3rd take:
Here's my revised:
QB: McNabb, Garcia (2)
RB: Westbrook, Moats, Buckhalter, Mahe, Tapeh (5)
WR: Brown, Stallworth, Baskett, Avant, G Lew, D. McCants (6)
TE: Smith, Schobel, Bartrum (3)
OL: Thomas, Herremans, Jackson, Andrews, Runyan, Justice, Jean-Gilles, Fraley, S.Young, P. McCoy (10)
DL: Kearse, Howard, Cole, McDougle, J.Thomas, Patterson, Bunkley, Walker, Rayburn, Ramsey (10)
LB: Trotter, McCoy, D.Jones, Gaither, Barber, Short (6)
DB: Sheppard, Brown, Hood, Strickland, Ware, Dawkins, Lewis, Considine, Reed (9)
K/P: Akers, Johnson (2)
POP: Gocong, Bloom, Pinkston (unless cut)
The guy was rated late firstday, early second day by most draft sources. He slipped du2 running slow 40times, but last time i checked Anquan Boldin ran a 4.76 at the combine. IGY, he's an upgrade over wilbur and i would say in the redzone an upgrade over Lewis or Pinky
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 29, 2006, 12:58:55 PM
Man why all of the hate towards Baskett?
its not hate....its reality
1. he wasnt drafted
2. someone traded him for billy mcmullen
just one of those and your nfl future is iffy....but both of them?...i hope hank got his degree
Has it ever crossed your mind that he just might actually be good?
And have you ever considered that the Vikings aren't exactly smart?
Or how about the fact that there are a lot of players in the NFL who weren't drafted who are good ballplayers.
if youre not drafted chances are youre not going to contribute in the nfl...and the odds are not good at all...i saw nothing at camp that would lead me to believe he can be anything more than a 4th wr/red zone guy...if he ends up being better than that then great.....but i dont see it
And have you ever considered that the Vikings aren't exactly smart?
yeah and andy knows a good receiver when he sees one
Ok. But he's certainly shown more than the average UDFA.
Give him a chance before you inscribe his headstone and bury the guy
Give him a chance? Where's the fun in that? It's much cooler to insist he won't be shtein since he was undrafted.
actually i made no judgement on him until i saw him at camp and even then i didnt bury him i said he will not be able to get open in this league but could be an effective red zoner....but lets ignore what igy says because he doesnt blow the eagles and every move they make like they are a nintendo game
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 29, 2006, 01:22:02 PM
actually i made no judgement on him until i saw him at camp and even then i didnt bury him i said he will not be able to get open in this league but could be an effective red zoner....but lets ignore what igy says because he doesnt blow the eagles and every move they make like they are a nintendo game
Hey, I'm not ignoring what you say. I'm just saying that let's wait and see on him. He could fizzle, he could be just a guy and contribute or he could turn into a real good player.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 29, 2006, 01:16:10 PM
Ok. But he's certainly shown more than the average UDFA.
Give him a chance before you inscribe his headstone and bury the guy
IGY likes doing that before a guy takes a regular season snap. I don't know what Baskett is going to be, but the Eagles must think rather highly of him considering he is listed ahead of Lewis, Gaffney, and Avant. I know big deal, but the fact of the matter is the Eagles basically invested nothing in this guy, where as they did with these other guys.
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 29, 2006, 12:58:55 PM
Man why all of the hate towards Baskett?
its not hate....its reality
1. he wasnt drafted
2. someone traded him for billy mcmullen
just one of those and your nfl future is iffy....but both of them?...i hope hank got his degree
You're right... sounds like you're keeping your mind wide open when it comes to Baskett.
Hey, at least Baskett isn't white. He might be some kind of oreo, though.
i was obviously half joking with the mcmullen comment...hes somewhere in btwn having no future and being the next anquan boldin
but again why dont you quote the 17 other posts in the last month where ive said the same thing about him...ie his redzone potential cant get open ect...that wont happen tho cause its a legitmate comment but one that doesnt praise the guy as much as you guys would like...so instead you wait until i exaggerate his worthlessness in a joking manner and then quote it for the next two days as proof of my haterdom
Yeah because it is always so obvious when you are joking IGY. I think he is now in the role he should be as a rookie a 3/4 receiver. Personally I haven't seen enough of the guy to make any judgement on him.
Quote from: FFatPatt on August 29, 2006, 01:28:04 PM
Hey, at least Baskett isn't white. He might be some kind of oreo, though.
His mom's white. Her and his father were interviewed during the one game.
Halle Berry's mom is white too. So, it's safe to say that Baskett will mean to football what Berry's meant to film.
I guess that means he'll be overrated his whole career and make one outrageously-undeserved Pro Bowl.
He should go ahead and get that undeserved Pro Bowl season out of the way now.
I wonder if he'll have to get naked and make out with Billy Bob Thornton to get there.
Update: Bloom, Jason Davis to IR. Richmond, Clarke added to waived/injured list.
Weird about Clarke. I thought he was a very good backup.
From San Diego Union-Tribune on Feeley being cut:
QuoteWhitehurst is 20-of-38 this summer for 166 yards, with no touchdowns, two interceptions and a 42.2 rating. Feeley actually had better numbers, completing 9-of-14 for 103 yards, one TD and a 110.1 rating. But most observers believed Whitehurst was more impressive in camp practices.
Poor Koy. Timmy say hi to the practice squad.
Everyone on Earth who saw him this preseason has been saying repeatedly that Clarke sucks. How could you possibly be surprised by this?
Quote from: FFatPatt on August 29, 2006, 02:52:00 PM
Halle Berry's mom is white too. So, it's safe to say that Baskett will mean to football what Berry's meant to film.
I guess that means he'll be overrated his whole career and make one outrageously-undeserved Pro Bowl.
:-D ZING
I think the Eagles will probably carry 3 QB's now. Just a hunch.
Quarterbacks - [3]
Donovan McNabb
Jeff Garcia
AJ Feeley
Running Backs - [4]
Brian Westbrook
Correll Buckhalter
Ryan Moats
Reno Mahe
Fullback - [1]
Thomas Tapeh
Wide Receiver - [6]
Reggie Brown
Donte Stallworth
Jason Avant
Hank Baskett
Greg Lewis
Jabar Gaffney
Tight Ends - [3]
LJ Smith
Matt Schobel
Mike Bartrum
Offensive Line - [9]
Williams Thomas
Todd Herremans
Jamaal Jackson
Shawn Andrews
Jon Runyan
Hank Fraley
Winston Justice
Max Jean-Gilles
Pat McCoy
Defensive Ends - [5]
Jevon Kearse
Darren Howard
Trent Cole
Jerome McDougle
Juqua Thomas
Defensive Tackles - [5]
Mike Patterson
Brodrick Bunkley
Darwin Walker
Sam Rayburn
LaJuan Ramsey
Linebackers - [7]
Jeremiah Trotter
Matt McCoy
Dhani Jones
Shawn Barber
Omar Gaither
Jason Short
Dedrick Roper
Cornerbacks - [4]
Lito Sheppard
Sheldon Brown
Roderick Hood
Joselio Hanson
Safeties - [4]
Brian Dawkins
Michael Lewis
Sean Considine
JR Reed
Speciallists - [2]
David Akers
Dirk Johnson
Total: 53
Injured Reserve
Jason Davis - FB
Jeremy Bloom - WR
Chris Gocong - LB
Practice Squad
Timmy Chang - QB (they could go with an outside choice here too)
Nick Cole - C
Stefan Rodgers - OT
Scott Young - OG
Tank Daniels - LB
Keyonta Marshall - DT
Bill Sampy - WR
(open spot to be filled by a RB)
Phreak, any reason why you have Tapeh over Perry?
You mean Parry?
Yeah - because I think Tapeh will beat him out for the job. I know the Eagles want Tapeh to win the job. ;)
no chance aj feeley makes it.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 31, 2006, 01:23:07 PM
Yeah - because I think Tapeh will beat him out for the job. I know the Eagles want Tapeh to win the job. ;)
what time you taking Spadaro out for dinner tonight?
no Quintin Mikell eh?
Quote from: reese125 on August 31, 2006, 01:29:43 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 31, 2006, 01:23:07 PM
Yeah - because I think Tapeh will beat him out for the job. I know the Eagles want Tapeh to win the job. ;)
what time you taking Spadaro out for dinner tonight?
6:30.
Want to tag along? You can be my chauffer.
Quote from: MURP on August 31, 2006, 01:32:16 PM
no Quintin Mikell eh?
Nah, he's a tough cut. I had him as the 54th player and the final cut.
He's a great coverage guy on STs but when it comes down to it - so is JR Reed. And Reed is the better safety and can return kicks and punts. So JR's versatility edges out Quintin's one-trick pony.
Pretty much how I see it... I still think Strickland beats out Hanson for the dime CB though.
WR 18 Donte' Stallworth 84 Hank Baskett 83 Greg Lewis
LT 72 William Thomas 74 Winston Justice 65 Pat McCoy
LG 79 Todd Herremans 63 Hank Fraley 62 Max Jean-Gilles
C 67 Jamaal Jackson 63 Hank Fraley 59 Nick Cole
RG 73 Shawn Andrews 66 Trey Darilek 63 Hank Fraley
RT 69 Jon Runyan 65 Pat McCoy 74 Winston Justice
TE 82 L.J. Smith 89 Matt Schobel 88 Mike Bartrum
WR 86 Reggie Brown 81 Jason Avant 80 Jabar Gaffney
QB 5 Donovan McNabb 7 Jeff Garcia 14 A.J. Feeley
FB 49 Josh Parry 38 Thomas Tapeh
RB 36 Brian Westbrook 28 Correll Buckhalter 23 Ryan Moats
DEFENSE
POS First Team Second Team Third Team
LDE 93 Jevon Kearse 95 Jerome McDougle 75 Juqua Thomas
LDT 98 Mike Patterson 91 Sam Rayburn 77 LaJuan Ramsey
RDT 97 Darwin Walker 78 Brodrick Bunkley 65 Keyonta Marshall
RDE 90 Darren Howard 58 Trent Cole 75 Juqua Thomas
SLB 55 Dhani Jones 59 Dedrick Roper 48 Torrance Daniels
MLB 54 Jeremiah Trotter 96 Omar Gaither 56 Shawn Barber
WLB 51 Matt McCoy 56 Shawn Barber 96 Omar Gaither
LCB 24 Sheldon Brown 31 Dexter Wynn 45 Joselio Hanson
RCB 26 Lito Sheppard 29 Roderick Hood 33 Donald Strickland
SS 32 Michael Lewis 37 Sean Considine 21 Matt Ware
FS 20 Brian Dawkins 27 Quintin Mikell 30 J.R. Reed
SPECIALISTS
POS First Team Second Team Third Team
PK 2 David Akers
P 8 Dirk Johnson 2 David Akers
KO 2 David Akers 8 Dirk Johnson
H 8 Dirk Johnson 14 A.J. Feeley
PR 34 Reno Mahe 31 Dexter Wynn 36 Brian Westbrook
KOR 30 J.R. Reed 34 Reno Mahe 29 Roderick Hood
PC 88 Mike Bartrum 90 Darren Howard
KC 88 Mike Bartrum 90 Darren Howard
Looks like McCants is gone, Donte already #1 in depth chart. Fraley backup at 3 spots assures him he will be with the team. Roper making the team
QB: McNabb, Garcia, Feeley
RB: Westbrook, Buck, Moats, Mahe
FB: Tapeh
WR: Stallworth, Brown, Baskett, Avant, Lewis, Gaffney
TE: Smith, Schobel, Bartrum
OL: Thomas, Herremans, Jackson, Andrews, Runyan, Fraley, Justice, Darilek, MJG
ST: Akers, Johnson
DL: Kearse, Walker, Patterson, Howard, Cole, Bunkley, Ramsey, Thomas, Rayburn
LB: Jones, Trotter, McCoy, Barber, Gaither, Daniels
DB: Sheppard, Brown, Dawkins, Lewis, Hood, Strickland, Ware, Reed, Mikell
I think they'll either pick up a 7th LB off of the last cuts (Emmons, maybe?), or go with 10 DL.
No way they keep Daniels and cut both Short and Roper, especially now that Simoneau is gone.
i dont believe for a second that he is in trouble despite rumors to the contrary....but if they were to cut gaffney i think it would be a pretty big mistake
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 01, 2006, 08:09:02 AM
i dont believe for a second that he is in trouble despite rumors to the contrary....but if they were to cut gaffney i think it would be a pretty big mistake
Yes. As much as I hope Avant can contribute in the slot this year and as high as my hopes are for the Brown/Stallworth combo, Gaffney is still a guy who has made some plays on the NFL level.
he also has to get better and more comfortable in the offense...i can def see a scenario where he passes baskett lewis avant (say week 3?) and takes over the number three spot...and i would actually be kind of giddy with a threesome of stallworth brown and gaffney with baskett and avant learning behind them
in conclusion banish greg lewis
It'd be nice to see him gone.
But if they keep 5, Lewis makes it.
If they keep 6 I think it's Lewis and Gaffney with Jabar being insurance like you all said.
i'd prefer to see McCants over Lewis. Hopefully FF is right about a trade.
Maybe the Pats will take him. Even though Bam Childress (WHO?!?!) had a good game last night.
QB: McNabb, Garcia, Feeley
RB: Westbrook, Buckhalter, Moats, Mahe, Tapeh
WR: Brown, Stallworth, Baskett, Avant, Gaffney, Lewis
TE: Smith, Schobel, Bartrum
OL: Thomas, Herremans, Jackson, Andrews, Runyan, Justice, Jean-Gilles, Fraley, McCoy
DL: Kearse, Howard, Cole, Patterson, Walker, Bunkley, Rayburn, Ramsey, McDougle
LB: Trotter, Jones, McCoy, Gaither, Short, Roper, Barber
DB: Dawkins, Lewis, Sheppard, Brown, Reed, Considine, Hood, Ware, Strickland
Gocong over Barber if he can go.
Stay off the crack!!
More crack for everybody!
I'm liking the new world of :CF with financial backers. Drugs all around!
No really, stay off the crack. It make heroin look like marijuana.
More heroin for everybody?
Can't go wrong with the big H, right stillupfront?
I don't think Tapeh showed enough tonight to make the team. It's a shame we won't keep 2 FBs. I'd like to keep Tapeh around.
Do you all think Reed is really gonna stick? He doesn't seem to think so, himself.
I'm not so sure Tapeh doesn't make it. His stats weren't great, but they aren't going to depend on him to run much anyway. He catches no worse than Parry, blocks fine, and has more upside. I'd say it's a coin toss.
I'm looking into my crystal ball and I just don't see Fraley making the Eagles' squad.
I'll predict:
QB (3) - McNabb, Garcia, Feeley
HB (5) - Westbrook, Buckhalter, Moats, Mahe, Perry
FB (1) - Tapeh
WR (5) - R. Brown, Stallworth, Avant, Baskett, G. Lewis
TE (3) - Smith, Schobel, Bartrum
OL (10) - W. Thomas, Herremans, Jackson, Andrews, Runyan, Justice, P. McCoy, Young, Jean-Gilles, N. Cole
DL (10) - Kearse, Howard, Cole, McDougle, J. Thomas, Patterson, Walker, Bunkley, Rayburn, Ramsey
LB (6) - M. McCoy, Trotter, Jones, Barber, Gaither, Short
CB (4) - Sheppard, S. Brown, Hood, Hanson
S (4) - Dawkins, M. Lewis, Considine, Mikell
K, P (2) - Akers, Johnson
You're a seer.
So....the answer was LBs. Roper got cut so they could keep 10 OL. Still can't believe this team has 6 RBs. Or that they kept Greggie.
And the only RB they kept that hasn't been injured during the pre-season is Tapeh, the bionic hip.
All is well!
The Eagles only have 34 players on the team that played for them last season, not including guys like Buckhalter, Tapeh, McDougle, etc.
That's vomit inducing.
The team that finished the season last year was vomit inducing.
Good point.
I know you'll really miss Simoneau and Pinkston.
Quote from: rjs246 on September 02, 2006, 07:36:43 PM
That's vomit inducing.
QB Mike McMahon, Koy Detmer, Jeff Smoker
RB Lamar Gordon, Josh Parry
WR Todd Pinkston, Terrell Owens, Darnerian McCants, Billy McMulen
TE Stephen Spach, Chad Lewis
OL Trey Darilek, Hank Fraley, Artis Hicks, Calvin Armstrong, Dominic Furio
DL ND Kalu, Paul Grasmanis, Hollis Thomas
LB Dedrick Roper, Keith Adams, Mark Simoneau, Justin Ena, Zeke Moreno
DB Matt Ware, Donald Strickland, Jack Brewer
K/P Todd France, Reggie Hodges
God damn. Amazing they had that much shtein in the first place.
So, aside from the 3rd QB (Feeley), how many players are deactivated for games, and who will they usually go with for week one?
I think they have to deactivate 7 more:
Moats (doesn't have a return role and team can't dress 5 tailbacks, can they?)
Jean-Gilles (they would have loved to put him on the PS but couldn't expose him to waivers)
P. McCoy (4th tackle, pretty obvious choice to not dress)
McDougle (might be Juqua if McDougle ever gets healthy)
Ramsey (Walker's probably just way ahead if he's healthy)
?? Two more? Who?
Might be Young. Cole played OG in college. So maybe they pull a Ephraim/Fraley and let him play G if need be.
Because if they activate Justice-Young-Cole that's 8 OL active.
Greg Lewis? Or do they activate all 5 WR?
Quote from: FFatPatt on September 02, 2006, 10:12:44 PM
So, aside from the 3rd QB (Feeley), how many players are deactivated for games, and who will they usually go with for week one?
I think they have to deactivate 7 more:
Moats (doesn't have a return role and team can't dress 5 tailbacks, can they?)
Jean-Gilles (they would have loved to put him on the PS but couldn't expose him to waivers)
P. McCoy (4th tackle, pretty obvious choice to not dress)
McDougle (might be Juqua if McDougle ever gets healthy)
Ramsey (Walker's probably just way ahead if he's healthy)
?? Two more? Who?
I highly doubt they deactivate Moats, who is their 2nd best RB. Especially if Buck gets hurt.
They need to get rid of Mahe and Perry. I'm sick of him taking an active roster spot on gamedays just to return punts and kicks. Let Moats do it.
Scott Young I think will be one and maybe Perry will be gone.
Quote from: Bunkley78 on September 02, 2006, 10:39:41 PM
They need to get rid of Mahe and Perry. I'm sick of him taking an active roster spot on gamedays just to return punts and kicks. Let Moats do it.
Fumbled. Concussed.
No.
Funny because Perry is that x 2.
Usually I am not someone to gloat...
but I thought this quite ironic, how some people said I had no clue... seems that muych of their criticism was wrong itself...
Quote from: rjs246 on May 21, 2006, 09:28:54 AM
There is so much here that I disagree with that I'm not sure where to begin...
Quote from: DutchBird on May 21, 2006, 03:42:31 AM
HB: Westbrook, Moats, Buckhalter. I say four RB's. Buckhalter remains in good health. Perry serves as special teamer, Moats and Westbrook can line-up as WR. What about a formation with Buckhalter and Moats in the backfield, and Westbrook in the slot.
You're out of your goddamned mind if you think Buckhalter has anything left. And I'd bet your little sister's virginity that Mahe makes this team. It will take an injury or Perry just absolutely destroying the competition for Mahe to be cut. Which makes me want to retch. I think we're looking at a Westbrook, Moats, Mahe, Tapeh lineup.
So, I got Westbrook, Moats, Buckhalter, Perry and Tapeh correct...
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WR: Brown, Gaffney, Pinkston, Baskett, Avant. The struggle will be between Lewis and Baskett. I think it is all up to Baskett. If he can convince on special teams, he will beat Lewis. If not, he will be practice-squad. I would say that because of Schobel, LJ, and the versatility of the RB's they go for the young squad. Bye bye Lewis, therefor.
So this team goes into the season with 6 WRs, FOUR of which are rookies and NONE of which were drafted on the first day? No chance. And if it were to happen I'd put my fist through a wall.
How is your fist doing? Baskett and Avant made it. So did Lewis (correct call from your side) and the Pinky-sub (Stallworth). I do not know where your fourth rookie came from, but as you can see, 2 complete rookies, one 2nd year and one new to the system. The only true veteran is Greg Lewis.
I went with 6 WR, Reid went with 5. Of those five I got Baskett, Avant and Brown. I got Gaffney wrong, and Pinkston. However, the Pinkston-replavcement is in.
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TE: Smith, Schobel, Bartrum: Bartrum will make it as a longsnapper. This might be his last season though.
Bartrum is one of the league's best longsnappers. He isn't going anywhere after this year. The Eagles value personnel continuity on the kicking teams above continuity anywhere else and will do everything they can to keep him as long as they can.
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OL: Thomas, Clarke, Jackson, Andrews, Runyan, Justice, Jean-Gilles, Herremans, Fraley, Darilek. IMHO it is rather the battle within this group that is interesting rather then the struggle to make the team. The only ones that are not a lock it seems are Fraley and Darilek
Darilek? No.
Well, Thomas, Jackson, Andrews, Runyan, Jean-Gilles and Herremans made it. Clarke on IR. And seems I was right so far in the sense that Fraley and Darilek were on the bubble (Fraley traded and Darilek cut in the last series).
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DL: Kearse, Cole, Howard, McDougle, Patterson, Walker, Bunkley, Rayburn, Ramsay. IMHO the struggle will be between Marshall, Rayburn and Ramsay. I think that Reid and JJ are willing to take one chance on a rookie. Though I feel to a degree it is depndent on how well Walker, Bunkley and Rayburn perform. If they do very well, I think they will go for Ramsay. If not, then Marshall will be in, and Ransay will move to the practice squad.
So they signed Jasper and have been holding on to Marshall and getting him experience, but their 7th round camp body wins the roster spot? Wrong.
Jasper is gone. I went with 9 defensive linemen. All made the team. The tenth guy is Thomas. So I was not so wrong as you said I would be...
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LB: Trotter, Jones, Barber, Gocong, McCoy, Gaither. Richmond looses his spot to Buckhalter, the fight for the last spot is between him and Gaither. Richmond is placed (if eligible) on the practice squad). The biggest surprise though (however I do not count on it) could be Jones being cut.
The team's best backup, Simoneau, will probably make the team. Gaither is another camp-body type player and at this point I'm convinced that you don't have any idea what's going on so I'm just disagreeing for the sake of disagreement.
Simoneau is out, Gaither is in. Seems I had 5 out of 6 correct, nr 6 on IR. The only one I missed is Jason Short. Guess I had a better idea of what I was doing (and was better at educated guessing) then what you thought.
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KR/PR: Perry and Bloom
This is Perry's shot at making the team, but I truly believe that Reid will cry like a baby if he has to let Mahe walk. I wouldn't count on it.
Well, Perry made it, Bloom is on IR.
I'm going to beat rjs to the punch and ask you to get off his nuts.
Quote from: DutchBird on September 03, 2006, 01:19:35 AM
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You're out of your goddamned mind if you think Buckhalter has anything left. And I'd bet your little sister's virginity that Mahe makes this team. It will take an injury or Perry just absolutely destroying the competition for Mahe to be cut. Which makes me want to retch. I think we're looking at a Westbrook, Moats, Mahe, Tapeh lineup.
So, I got Westbrook, Moats, Buckhalter, Perry and Tapeh correct...
I got all of those too, plus Mahe, and I still stand by my assertion that Buckhalter has nothing left.
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So this team goes into the season with 6 WRs, FOUR of which are rookies and NONE of which were drafted on the first day? No chance. And if it were to happen I'd put my fist through a wall.
How is your fist doing?
Not well. But more because they cut McCants than because of anything I said being wrong. Right now they have five receivers, two that were undrafted and two that were top-35 picks. McCants or Gaffney or both should be on the team instead of Lewis, but at least the team kept some experience. Calling Stallworth a 'Pinky Replacement' is ridiculous, by the way.
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Well, Thomas, Jackson, Andrews, Runyan, Jean-Gilles and Herremans made it. Clarke on IR. And seems I was right so far in the sense that Fraley and Darilek were on the bubble (Fraley traded and Darilek cut in the last series).
Darilek = cut
I = right.
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So they signed Jasper and have been holding on to Marshall and getting him experience, but their 7th round camp body wins the roster spot? Wrong.
Jasper is gone. I went with 9 defensive linemen. All made the team. The tenth guy is Thomas. So I was not so wrong as you said I would be...
This one you nailed. I still wish Marshall would make this goddamned team.
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The team's best backup, Simoneau, will probably make the team. Gaither is another camp-body type player and at this point I'm convinced that you don't have any idea what's going on so I'm just disagreeing for the sake of disagreement.
Simoneau is out, Gaither is in. Seems I had 5 out of 6 correct, nr 6 on IR. The only one I missed is Jason Short. Guess I had a better idea of what I was doing (and was better at educated guessing) then what you thought.
You nailed this one too, but anyone who is happy about this team only keeping 6 LBs needs to have their head examined.
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This is Perry's shot at making the team, but I truly believe that Reid will cry like a baby if he has to let Mahe walk. I wouldn't count on it.
Well, Perry made it, Bloom is on IR.
And Mahe is right where anyone who has been paying attention knew he'd be. On the roster.
In summation, you were right on two of the things we disgreed about. And if I were you I wouldn't be too pleased with being right about the LBs...
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 31, 2006, 01:16:26 PM
Quarterbacks - [3]
Donovan McNabb
Jeff Garcia
AJ Feeley
Running Backs - [4]
Brian Westbrook
Correll Buckhalter
Ryan Moats
Reno Mahe
Fullback - [1]
Thomas Tapeh
Wide Receiver - [6]
Reggie Brown
Donte Stallworth
Jason Avant
Hank Baskett
Greg Lewis
Jabar Gaffney
Tight Ends - [3]
LJ Smith
Matt Schobel
Mike Bartrum
Offensive Line - [9]
Williams Thomas
Todd Herremans
Jamaal Jackson
Shawn Andrews
Jon Runyan
Hank Fraley
Winston Justice
Max Jean-Gilles
Pat McCoy
Defensive Ends - [5]
Jevon Kearse
Darren Howard
Trent Cole
Jerome McDougle
Juqua Thomas
Defensive Tackles - [5]
Mike Patterson
Brodrick Bunkley
Darwin Walker
Sam Rayburn
LaJuan Ramsey
Linebackers - [7]
Jeremiah Trotter
Matt McCoy
Dhani Jones
Shawn Barber
Omar Gaither
Jason Short
Dedrick Roper
Cornerbacks - [4]
Lito Sheppard
Sheldon Brown
Roderick Hood
Joselio Hanson
Safeties - [4]
Brian Dawkins
Michael Lewis
Sean Considine
JR Reed
Speciallists - [2]
David Akers
Dirk Johnson
Total: 53
Since everyone else is whipping theirs out...
I missed on...
-Gaffney
-Roper
-Reed
-Fraley
Quote from: FFatPatt on September 03, 2006, 07:20:26 AM
I'm going to beat rjs to the punch and ask you to get off his nuts.
Sorry, but if he was talking about me having no clue and making things up.. seems that for much I was not thant far of as he woult think I was, which proves him wrong quite a bit... he said my idea that JR reed would come close was a reach... it seems that to most Reed was a (near) surprise cut in the end. Disagreeing, fine, but with reasons and some form of respect...
and BTW, I think keeping just 6 LB's is indeed a huge gamble...
I didn't put together a list.
Which means that I didn't get any wrong.
Which means that I win.
Respect is for lesbians. If you want respect don't try to communicate on an internet message board.
I heart lesbians.
When is the PS filled?
Waiver claims had to be in by Noon today.
So we could hear sometime today who is going where. Maybe they'll torture us and wait until tomorrow.
Which cuts are eligible for it?
What happened to Tyrone Calico? Everyone was bustin' a nut over him a couple of years ago saying that he was a diamond in the rough. I remember he was raw; maybe he was just unteachable.
Quote from: General_Failure on September 03, 2006, 01:09:26 PM
Which cuts are eligible for it?
Anyone who has less than 9 games on the active 45-man gameday roster.
Z,
Calico got lazy in TEN and thought everything should be given to him. Couldn't stay healthy either.
i was in canada last week, let me get this straight...no more pinky, sims, parry, fraley, mcCants or gaffney? anyone else? they sign dante stallworth...good :yay
how the hell did greg lewis make it? im happy to see parry, pinky and sims gone, thank god. wow i like the moves except for fraley and mccants...
I'd take Davenport. He's probably the only cut that interests me the most.
Although, with the current depth chart setup, unless they cut or trade someone I don't know if they would be willing to pick him up.
Quote from: FFatPatt on June 05, 2006, 03:25:33 PM
If this guy Hanson makes the team, the secondary is in deep shtein.
Im not going to bump the old thread, but this is funny. You would have figured atleast one person would guess he'd make the team, although Rome did predict he's a future pro bowler.
If Hanson sees any meaningful time on D... not good. Better hope the top 3 guys stay healthy.
No team in the league has 4 great corners. Hanson is as good as any 4th corner in the league, so the same applies for every team in that regard.
Quote from: Eaglez on September 03, 2006, 01:36:35 PM
I'd take Davenport. He's probably the only cut that interests me the most.
Although, with the current depth chart setup, unless they cut or trade someone I don't know if they would be willing to pick him up.
Strange how Davenport is available. This might play right into our hands. Shocking the Packers let him go with Green's history. I haven't been studying other teams cuts. Did you hear any reason as to why he was let go? I know they have Gato but I go back to Green's ability to stay healthy.
Quote from: Eaglez on September 03, 2006, 01:36:35 PM
I'd take Davenport. He's probably the only cut that interests me the most.
Although, with the current depth chart setup, unless they cut or trade someone I don't know if they would be willing to pick him up.
Davenport, Willie Ponder--get rid of BOTH Mahe and Perry.
Agreed.