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Title: We got a new fullback... well sort of. Tapeh is back!
Post by: The BIGSTUD on April 23, 2006, 10:18:34 PM
Eagles | Tapeh at 100 percent
Sun, 23 Apr 2006 18:03:12 -0700

Sid Hartman, of the Star Tribune, reports Philadelphia Eagles FB Thomas Tapeh, who missed the past two seasons with the Eagles because of injuries, was at the Minnesota Gophers spring game Saturday, April 22, and said he is 100 percent healthy and will play this year.


Tapeh is back!

He'll most likely be the starting FB for opening day. I think the Eagles love him so that's the reason they didn't go after any FBs in free agency.
Title: Re: We got a new fullback... well sort of. Tapeh is back!
Post by: BigEd76 on April 23, 2006, 10:20:12 PM
yup
Title: Re: We got a new fullback... well sort of. Tapeh is back!
Post by: Diomedes on April 23, 2006, 10:26:07 PM
Tapeh, Parry, Spach.  Meh.

Mack Strong, Jeremi Johnson, William Henderson, Andrew Pinnock or even Jerald Sowell.   Any would have been preferable imho.
Title: Re: We got a new fullback... well sort of. Tapeh is back!
Post by: Feva on April 23, 2006, 10:28:31 PM
As long as he can outdo Parry... I'm all for it.
Title: Re: We got a new fullback... well sort of. Tapeh is back!
Post by: SD_Eagle5 on April 23, 2006, 10:28:52 PM
I put Tapeh in the Buckhalter category.
Title: Re: We got a new fullback... well sort of. Tapeh is back!
Post by: Diomedes on April 23, 2006, 10:29:28 PM
Is Shawn Barber in that category too??
Title: Re: We got a new fullback... well sort of. Tapeh is back!
Post by: SD_Eagle5 on April 23, 2006, 10:32:37 PM
Quote from: Diomedes on April 23, 2006, 10:29:28 PM
Is Shawn Barber in that category too??

No since he's a LB and he's actually played a handful of games the last few seasons.
Title: Re: We got a new fullback... well sort of. Tapeh is back!
Post by: The BIGSTUD on April 23, 2006, 10:33:44 PM
Tapeh's been out from the same injury since almost 2 years ago. I wouldn't say he's injury prone just yet. He had a bad hip injury.
Title: Re: We got a new fullback... well sort of. Tapeh is back!
Post by: General_Failure on April 23, 2006, 11:03:05 PM
I'm still rooting for the kid. He's our only hope for a running game.
Title: Re: We got a new fullback... well sort of. Tapeh is back!
Post by: PhillyandBCEagles on April 23, 2006, 11:50:12 PM
Great, we're penning in a guy who hasn't played in a year and a half and didn't really do much then as our starting FB.  This makes me feel better about not getting Mack Strong or re-signing Ritchie.

I'm actually not nearly as down on Parry as most of the people here are, I think he's serviceable, but if our plan for next year includes relying on Tapeh as a key piece of our offense we may as well make late December tee times in Florida right now.
Title: Re: We got a new fullback... well sort of. Tapeh is back!
Post by: SD_Eagle5 on April 23, 2006, 11:54:29 PM
Quote from: PhillyandBCEagles on April 23, 2006, 11:50:12 PM
re-signing Ritchie.

He retired

This guys dead....
Well then cross him off the list
Title: Re: We got a new fullback... well sort of. Tapeh is back!
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 23, 2006, 11:54:36 PM
He was never our starting FB.

Ritchie retired.

Parry blows.

And even if Parry is the starting FB as much as it would suck it wouldn't be the reason why they'd need late December tee times.
Title: Re: We got a new fullback... well sort of. Tapeh is back!
Post by: PhillyandBCEagles on April 23, 2006, 11:57:59 PM
Yeah but he only retired after not getting a new offer from the Eagles.

Tapeh could be the next Mike Alstott for all we know but the fact is we can't rely on having him healthy in September, and even if we could we have no clue what he can do on the NFL level.
Title: Re: We got a new fullback... well sort of. Tapeh is back!
Post by: SD_Eagle5 on April 24, 2006, 12:08:07 AM
Quote from: PhillyandBCEagles on April 23, 2006, 11:57:59 PM
Yeah but he only retired after not getting a new offer from the Eagles.



He signed with the Bengals but didn't make their squad.  He obviously has nothing left otherwise he'd be on someone's roster.
Title: Re: We got a new fullback... well sort of. Tapeh is back!
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 24, 2006, 12:08:18 AM
Nah, he said he went to Cincy last year to try out for them after getting cut here and he just couldn't do it anymore.

And Tapeh is healthy in April. He'll be ready for camp in July and will be ready to be the FB in September.

And regardless of what he can or can't do, not having that piece of garbage Josh Parry in there is an addition by subtraction.
Title: Re: We got a new fullback... well sort of. Tapeh is back!
Post by: General_Failure on April 24, 2006, 01:15:03 AM
And if he can play, he's our big back.
Title: Re: We got a new fullback... well sort of. Tapeh is back!
Post by: bobbyinlondon on April 24, 2006, 05:14:15 AM
Quote from: PhillyandBCEagles on April 23, 2006, 11:57:59 PM
Yeah but he only retired after not getting a new offer from the Eagles.

Tapeh could be the next Mike Alstott for all we know but the fact is we can't rely on having him healthy in September, and even if we could we have no clue what he can do on the NFL level.

If you heard what Heckert said last year, he said they were watching Ritchie run in camp and it was bovious he couldn't do it anymore. As other posters have said, if he had something left, he'd be playing.
Title: Re: We got a new fullback... well sort of. Tapeh is back!
Post by: ice grillin you on April 24, 2006, 07:46:47 AM
the eagles value the fullback position slighty more than the linebacker position
Title: Re: We got a new fullback... well sort of. Tapeh is back!
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on April 24, 2006, 07:49:22 AM
Quote from: SD_Eagle on April 23, 2006, 11:54:29 PM
Quote from: PhillyandBCEagles on April 23, 2006, 11:50:12 PM
re-signing Ritchie.

He retired

This guys dead....
Well then cross him off the list


Major League.


But seriously, I'm at least glad he's 100% if they're paving the way to make him the FB/big back.
Title: Re: We got a new fullback... well sort of. Tapeh is back!
Post by: Zanshin on April 24, 2006, 08:27:49 AM
Hey, I hope Tapeh is great.  Hoping for it and counting on it are two different things.
Title: Re: We got a new fullback... well sort of. Tapeh is back!
Post by: mussa on April 24, 2006, 11:50:26 AM
im not expecting much.  it would be nice though to have him make an impact.
Title: Re: We got a new fullback... well sort of. Tapeh is back!
Post by: Feva on April 24, 2006, 11:54:27 AM
Quote from: PhillyandBCEagles on April 23, 2006, 11:50:12 PM
Great, we're penning in a guy who hasn't played in a year and a half and didn't really do much then as our starting FB.  This makes me feel better about not getting Mack Strong or re-signing Ritchie.

I'm actually not nearly as down on Parry as most of the people here are, I think he's serviceable, but if our plan for next year includes relying on Tapeh as a key piece of our offense we may as well make late December tee times in Florida right now.

You know as much as I do that the FB in the Eagles offense is nowhere near a "key" piece.  They're going to try Tapeh at FB... what he was drafted to do, unlike Parry who's a converted LB... and if he can get it done, he'll see his 10 snaps a game at FB and get some time in short yardage situations (where I think he'll show his real value).  If he can't, then Parry survives to do the same zesty job he's been doing the past year and a half.

Either way, the chances of the FB position weighing heavily on the successes and failures of this team are pretty damn slim.
Title: Re: We got a new fullback... well sort of. Tapeh is back!
Post by: reese125 on April 24, 2006, 12:21:42 PM
It very well could be a key piece. That was definitely one of our weaknesses on offense if you want a lead blocker and short yardage 1st downs.  Aside from our O-line not realizing how to run block last year and assuming they will do a much better job this year, the fullback needs to step up big time this year for the extra yards westbrook needs. Hes good in the open field for mistackles, but when he goes in between tackles its harder to get the extra push w/out a good FB.

Also, if you run I formations or or even a 3 receiver set, you need a fullback to key in on that MLB and make a quality block. Thats why I would of liked to see them pick a solid one up in FA. It could of solved alot of scrambling for short pass plays on 3rd down and 1 or 2 by Reid. I dont know if Tapeh is the man for that or not...
Title: Re: We got a new fullback... well sort of. Tapeh is back!
Post by: Feva on April 24, 2006, 05:55:37 PM
Don't get me wrong.  I know exactly how valuable a quality FB can be to an offense... that runs the ball.  My thing is that for the amount of snaps the FB is even on the field in Andy's offense... it's not a key piece very often.  I actually wonder if Andy even knows what a FB is every time he calls that farging pass in the flat to Parry... only to watch him trip over his own two feet for a 1 yard gain.

I would have absolutely loved it if they grabbed someone like Mack Strong in FA when he was dangling out there, but for the role the FB plays in this offense... Andy feels that converted LB's like Parry are enough to get the job done.  That said... if Tapeh is indeed 100%, I think he'll do a pretty good job of lead blocking and short yardage running.  That was his forte at Minnesota.



PS - You said "I-Formation" when talking about Andy's offense.  Ha!  :P
Title: Re: We got a new fullback... well sort of. Tapeh is back!
Post by: reese125 on April 24, 2006, 10:36:07 PM
Hey, if you declare you want to run the ball more on offense Mr. Reid, get the 1st cart that starts the train IMO.

PS

He does the run the I...all for that David Blaine play action Donovan performs 3 out of the 4 downs
Title: Re: We got a new fullback... well sort of. Tapeh is back!
Post by: Munson on April 24, 2006, 10:43:56 PM
I formation, First and 10, ball at the 26 yardline...playaction. Mcnabb rolls out, throws a bomb to Pinkston.

I think we started 12 out of 16 games with that play two years ago. Last year hurt us without the Pink. no deep threat.

As for FB....I think Tapeh can get the job done. But we should really reserve judgement until we actually get a look at him.
Title: Re: We got a new fullback... well sort of. Tapeh is back!
Post by: The BIGSTUD on April 24, 2006, 10:46:13 PM
Tapeh was highly regarded as the best FB in his draft class. Give him time.
Title: Re: We got a new fullback... well sort of. Tapeh is back!
Post by: ice grillin you on April 25, 2006, 11:49:10 AM
Tapeh was highly regarded as the best FB in his draft class

no he wasnt...he was regarded as an interesting fullback prospect since he had not played much fullback in college

anyway doesnt best fullback = tallest midget
Title: Re: We got a new fullback... well sort of. Tapeh is back!
Post by: mussa on April 25, 2006, 11:57:51 AM
Quote from: Philly Forever on April 24, 2006, 10:46:13 PM
Tapeh was highly regarded as the best FB in his draft class. Give him time.

haha :-D

never heard that one before
Title: Re: We got a new fullback... well sort of. Tapeh is back!
Post by: fansince61 on April 25, 2006, 12:43:25 PM
I think the birds will take a fullback early the second day of the draft ;)
Title: Re: We got a new fullback... well sort of. Tapeh is back!
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 25, 2006, 07:46:36 PM
Well, the only other FB worth a shtein that year was Troy Fleming.
Title: Re: We got a new fullback... well sort of. Tapeh is back!
Post by: MURP on April 26, 2006, 12:04:26 AM
Quote from: Philly Forever on April 24, 2006, 10:46:13 PM
Tapeh was highly regarded as the best FB in his draft class. Give him time.

link?

just to check it out... I pulled out the TSN draft guide from that year and they had Tapeh listed as the 4th rated FB in that draft. 
Title: Re: We got a new fullback... well sort of. Tapeh is back!
Post by: SidFarkus on April 26, 2006, 12:16:56 PM
Quote from: fansince61 on April 25, 2006, 12:43:25 PM
I think the birds will take a fullback early the second day of the draft ;)

I remember hearing that they may have had some interest in David Kirtman from USC. The reports are on him that he's a good special teamer that's a great reciever out of the backfield. The cons? He can't block.

I'm still a bit dissapointed they never took a look at Gerald Sowell in FA.
Title: Re: We got a new fullback... well sort of. Tapeh is back!
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on April 26, 2006, 12:33:21 PM
Quote from: SidFarkus on April 26, 2006, 12:16:56 PM
I'm still a bit dissapointed they never took a look at Gerald Sowell in FA.

..or Mack Strong ..or Tony Richardson.
Title: Re: We got a new fullback... well sort of. Tapeh is back!
Post by: reese125 on April 26, 2006, 12:47:52 PM
David Kirtman from USC
The cons? He can't block.

sounds like Eagles fullback criteria to me....book him
Title: Re: We got a new fullback... well sort of. Tapeh is back!
Post by: SidFarkus on April 26, 2006, 02:04:50 PM
Quote from: reese125 on April 26, 2006, 12:47:52 PM
David Kirtman from USC
The cons? He can't block.

sounds like Eagles fullback criteria to me....book him

Yeah, I don't think it would be a very good pick...

He may not even get drafted honestly...
Title: Re: We got a new fullback... well sort of. Tapeh is back!
Post by: Geowhizzer on April 26, 2006, 07:11:19 PM
Quote from: SidFarkus on April 26, 2006, 02:04:50 PM
Quote from: reese125 on April 26, 2006, 12:47:52 PM
David Kirtman from USC
The cons? He can't block.

sounds like Eagles fullback criteria to me....book him

Yeah, I don't think it would be a very good pick...

He may not even get drafted honestly...

Then we KNOW we'll get him.  UDFA baby!