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Title: Michael Huff - Why The Sudden Pimping By The Birds?
Post by: Rome on April 08, 2006, 08:36:25 AM
Why are the Eagles pimping Michael Huff so much?  First Spadaro comes out and sings his praises by saying that basically he'll be the best player taken from the 2006 in four years and now they have this article posted on PE.Com.

Strange.  Anyway, an interesting read none the less.


QuoteHuff Earning A Lot Of Respect 

April 8, 2006
By CHRIS STEUBER

Twenty-five years ago a star was born in the Bay Area. The devastating hits, his will to win and the leadership he brought to the field endeared him into the hearts of the fans wearing red and gold. Ronnie Lott was the last line of defense.
Before he starred with the Niners, Lott was an All-American at Southern California. He played both safety and cornerback for the Trojans. Known for his leadership and ball-hawking ability, Lott led USC to a National Championship in 1978, as well as two Rose Bowl victories.

Drafted eighth overall by the 49ers in the 1980 NFL Draft, Lott was named the starting left cornerback on the first day of training camp. He led a young secondary during his rookie season, but after some bumps in the road, Lott ultimately helped the Niners win Super Bowl XVI.

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Lott, a secondary sensation, was switched from cornerback to safety before the start of the 1986 season. The switch of position allowed Lott to make an impact on the game, and he was widely considered the best to ever play the safety position.

Twenty-five years later another player exists in the same realm as Lott.

Michael Huff, an All-America defensive back from the Texas Longhorns, reminds many of Lott. The comparisons between the two are uncanny and in many ways warranted. Huff played both cornerback and safety at Texas and showcased ability reminiscent of Lott.

Entering the 2006 NFL Draft, Huff measures in at a solid 6-0, 203-pounds. Amazingly enough, Lott played his entire career at those exact dimensions. Not only is their stature the same, but their collegiate statistics are also intriguing.

Huff posted 318 total tackles, seven interceptions, two sacks and four touchdowns during his four years at Texas. Huff was a major player in the Longhorns' National Championship victory over Lott's alma mater, a season in which Texas finished a perfect 13-0.

During Lott's career at Southern California, he recorded 250 total tackles, 14 interceptions and two touchdowns. Lott also played a major part in the Trojans' 1978 National Championship. USC finished the '78 campaign 12  1.

The obvious similarity between these two individuals is that they're winners. They both achieved greatness at the college level, but it took Huff some time to develop into the hard-hitting, fearless defensive back he is today.

"When I first got there, I still considered myself a track guy, a speed guy," says Huff. "So, I pretty much just wanted to run around and look pretty."

A person Huff credits for changing the way he plays the game is Texas' co-defensive coordinator/defensive backs coach Duane Akina. Akina realized Huff's talent, but also figured out his distinct flaw.

"He was always a very good athlete, a very good technical player, but he just wasn't as physical as I wanted," Akina said. "I always say I want our players to be known as DB's, not just cover guys. I really think that was his last hurdle to be considered a great defensive back, and I told him that. It's really rewarding to me to hear people on TV talk about how physical Michael Huff is. And he is, but that's only because he worked so hard at it, and that's a credit to Michael."

With the help of Akina, Huff became one of the most feared defensive backs in college football. In just three weeks, the NFL Draft will be underway and oddly enough, the San Francisco 49ers select sixth overall. Huff is aware of the comparisons between Lott and himself and feels they're a bit premature.

"I've heard that I am being compared to Ronnie Lott, but he was one of the greatest safeties to ever play the game," Huff said. "I'm nowhere on his level, but hopefully I will leave a legacy like he did."

And maybe twenty-five years from now we will look at Huff the same way NFL fans and players revere Lott.

Title: Re: Michael Huff - Why The Sudden Pimping By The Birds?
Post by: SD_Eagle5 on April 08, 2006, 08:47:32 AM
2 lines of reasoning:

Option A. This is a smokescreen. No way do the Eagles let their draft plans leak. And even if they did I highly doubt Spuds would disclose them publicly.

Option B. They really like Huff, think he'll drop, and are prepared to let Dawk walk once his contract is up. Spuds will be the first one to tell you he knows nothing about the college draft, which makes this interesting.


If Huff were our pick I can't say that I'd be disappointed, the guys a heck of a player and is versatile enough of a DB to be spread around.  My problem would be that the writing is on the wall that the Eagles are willing to let Dawk walk. I think we can all agree that seeing him in another teams uniform would be a heartbreaker.

Title: Re: Michael Huff - Why The Sudden Pimping By The Birds?
Post by: Rome on April 08, 2006, 08:53:14 AM
Oh, I agree that he's a hell of a player.  But for the Eagles to have any shot at him, they'd have to give up half of their draft picks to move up to get him.  That's not gonna happen.
Title: Re: Michael Huff - Why The Sudden Pimping By The Birds?
Post by: PhillyGirl on April 08, 2006, 08:58:15 AM
LOL, reading anything into this is ridiculous.  :-D
Title: Re: Michael Huff - Why The Sudden Pimping By The Birds?
Post by: Displaced on April 08, 2006, 09:12:11 AM
Looks like game to me.  They may have gotten wind that a rival (maybe Dallas?) wants him and they are trying to convince them they need to trade up ahead of their own trade up in order to get him.

Besides that, aren't they profiling all the top prospects?
Title: Re: Michael Huff - Why The Sudden Pimping By The Birds?
Post by: Rome on April 08, 2006, 09:41:36 AM
Quote from: PhillyGirl on April 08, 2006, 08:58:15 AM
LOL, reading anything into this is ridiculous.  :-D

Forgive me oh mighty Oracle of Wisdom.

;)
Title: Re: Michael Huff - Why The Sudden Pimping By The Birds?
Post by: BigEd76 on April 08, 2006, 10:36:42 AM
Huff won't last past Detroit, Arizona or St. Louis.
Title: Re: Michael Huff - Why The Sudden Pimping By The Birds?
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on April 08, 2006, 10:40:12 AM
Quote from: SD_Eagle on April 08, 2006, 08:47:32 AM
2 lines of reasoning:

Option A. This is a smokescreen. No way do the Eagles let their draft plans leak. And even if they did I highly doubt Spuds would disclose them publicly.

Option B. They really like Huff, think he'll drop, and are prepared to let Dawk walk once his contract is up. Spuds will be the first one to tell you he knows nothing about the college draft, which makes this interesting.

There are other options:

Option C. They really like Huff, and they think he gives them more options with regards to Mike Lewis and/or Rod Hood, both of whom they haven't reached long-term deals with for a reason.

Option D. They seriously just rotate so many DB's that they want to have 6 good ones, and they feel they only have 5.

Option E. They're moving Mike Lewis to SAM and/or they plan to start 2 OLB's that can't cover TE's, so they need to have Huff, Lewis, and Dawkins all available in the backfield to cover Witten, Shockey, and Cooley.
Title: Re: Michael Huff - Why The Sudden Pimping By The Birds?
Post by: Drunkmasterflex on April 08, 2006, 11:15:23 AM
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on April 08, 2006, 08:53:14 AM
Oh, I agree that he's a hell of a player.  But for the Eagles to have any shot at him, they'd have to give up half of their draft picks to move up to get him.  That's not gonna happen.

That is pretty much how I see it; according to Eckel "there is no question that the Eagles are trying to trade up to pick up Haloti Ngata.
Title: Re: Michael Huff - Why The Sudden Pimping By The Birds?
Post by: MURP on April 08, 2006, 11:28:47 AM
probably a smoke screen like most of the stuff around this time of the year.
Title: Re: Michael Huff - Why The Sudden Pimping By The Birds?
Post by: SD_Eagle5 on April 08, 2006, 11:28:55 AM
Quote from: FFatPatt on April 08, 2006, 10:40:12 AM
There are other options:

Option C. They really like Huff, and they think he gives them more options with regards to Mike Lewis and/or Rod Hood, both of whom they haven't reached long-term deals with for a reason.

Option D. They seriously just rotate so many DB's that they want to have 6 good ones, and they feel they only have 5.

Option E. They're moving Mike Lewis to SAM and/or they plan to start 2 OLB's that can't cover TE's, so they need to have Huff, Lewis, and Dawkins all available in the backfield to cover Witten, Shockey, and Cooley.

All good points, my options were more black and white, you delved more into the gray area.
Title: Re: Michael Huff - Why The Sudden Pimping By The Birds?
Post by: Rome on April 08, 2006, 11:34:09 AM
I just found it strange that someone who claims to have little knowledge of college players wrote such a glowing report on one.

Like MURP said, though, it's probably disinformation and pretty obvious disinformation at that.
Title: Re: Michael Huff - Why The Sudden Pimping By The Birds?
Post by: MURP on April 08, 2006, 11:39:38 AM
well, one thing we know is that Spewdaro and the rest of his minions really dont know who the Eagles are going to take.  That Chris McPherson or whatever his name is wrote about how he was just about to push the button to post an article on the Eagles website that they had drafted Khalif Barnes last year when they went ahead and took Mike Patterson.
Title: Re: Michael Huff - Why The Sudden Pimping By The Birds?
Post by: Rome on April 08, 2006, 11:45:12 AM
How sad is that?  Reid's veil of secrecy is so tight that even his own PR director doesn't know what he's doing.

:-D
Title: Re: Michael Huff - Why The Sudden Pimping By The Birds?
Post by: hunt on April 08, 2006, 11:55:49 AM
Quote from: MURP on April 08, 2006, 11:39:38 AM
well, one thing we know is that Spewdaro and the rest of his minions really dont know who the Eagles are going to take. 

yup...and neither do we.  i'm not reading into anything i hear between now and the draft...the eagles usually surprise us and i'm sure this year will be no different.
Title: Re: Michael Huff - Why The Sudden Pimping By The Birds?
Post by: shorebird on April 08, 2006, 11:56:21 AM
Quote from: MURP on April 08, 2006, 11:39:38 AM
well, one thing we know is that Spewdaro and the rest of his minions really dont know who the Eagles are going to take. That Chris McPherson or whatever his name is wrote about how he was just about to push the button to post an article on the Eagles website that they had drafted Khalif Barnes last year when they went ahead and took Mike Patterson.

Right now, no one knows who the Eagles will draft, including Ried. Too much can change. All the talk on the Eagles site is just guys trying to find something to write about, which can make for some interesting reading and gives you some insight on certain players. I don't know about the rest of you, but I like reading anything about football at this time of the year, even if it is far fetched rumors.
Title: Re: Michael Huff - Why The Sudden Pimping By The Birds?
Post by: bobbyinlondon on April 08, 2006, 02:20:50 PM
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on April 08, 2006, 08:53:14 AM
Oh, I agree that he's a hell of a player.  But for the Eagles to have any shot at him, they'd have to give up half of their draft picks to move up to get him.  That's not gonna happen.

1st, 3rd, and 4th to move, say, from 14 to 8.
Title: Re: Michael Huff - Why The Sudden Pimping By The Birds?
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 08, 2006, 02:25:32 PM
Um, because Mike Huff is a pimp?
Title: Re: Michael Huff - Why The Sudden Pimping By The Birds?
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on April 08, 2006, 02:36:38 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 08, 2006, 02:25:32 PM
Um, because Mike Huff is a pimp?

It would pretty much have to be a prerequisite of all Eagles fan pimps to have a "Huff" jersey.
Title: Re: Michael Huff - Why The Sudden Pimping By The Birds?
Post by: PhillyFan on April 08, 2006, 07:30:25 PM
Pimping???  Anything Spadaro says with respect to the draft is irrelevant and the website is just doing its little draft preview with articles about a bunch of draft prospects.  They've already done Sims and Fergueson.  We'll see a bunch more over the next few weeks. 
Title: Re: Michael Huff - Why The Sudden Pimping By The Birds?
Post by: PhillyGirl on April 08, 2006, 09:38:52 PM
Quote from: PhillyFan on April 08, 2006, 07:30:25 PM
Pimping???  Anything Spadaro says with respect to the draft is irrelevant and the website is just doing its little draft preview with articles about a bunch of draft prospects.  They've already done Sims and Fergueson.  We'll see a bunch more over the next few weeks. 

ding ding ding
Title: Re: Michael Huff - Why The Sudden Pimping By The Birds?
Post by: SunMo on April 09, 2006, 10:20:52 PM
just so we're clear, i was pimping Huff before his name was remotely associated with the Eagles
Title: Re: Michael Huff - Why The Sudden Pimping By The Birds?
Post by: JTrotter Fan on April 09, 2006, 10:32:38 PM
Yes, i remember.  I had him for a $30 bj.  :yay :yay
Title: Re: Michael Huff - Why The Sudden Pimping By The Birds?
Post by: SunMo on April 09, 2006, 10:33:52 PM
i had a clever response ready to post, but deleted it for fear of persecution.

go Eagles.
Title: Re: Michael Huff - Why The Sudden Pimping By The Birds?
Post by: RezRob on April 12, 2006, 09:34:48 AM
We're going to a spread gun secondary. Freak, Trott, Howard on the line and 8 Dbs.
Title: Re: Michael Huff - Why The Sudden Pimping By The Birds?
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on April 12, 2006, 09:45:25 AM
Wow, that's really funny.

But seriously... who's the Eagles 6th best DB right now?  How many of their 5 best DB's are under contract past this season?  If you seek the answers to those questions, you'll see that the Eagles are very likely to pick up a DB of some sort fairly early in the draft.

Also, same kind of deal with OL.  You think they have strength in numbers... but how many great linemen of the future will be starting for the Eagles this year?  ONE.  Andrews.  Herremans may start and be OK, but he's not irreplaceable.

Honestly, this is why I see the Eagles picking DE (Kearse gone after no more than two seasons, Howard not getting any younger), OT (Thomas and Runyan are past their prime), or DB (for reasons I mentioned above).

Everyone else thinks DT or LB, but the three positions I mentioned are just as likely if you look at the past history of Andy Reid's drafts.
Title: Re: Michael Huff - Why The Sudden Pimping By The Birds?
Post by: Rome on April 12, 2006, 10:44:37 AM
I agree about the OL thing, FF.

The interesting thing about this draft in terms of the Eagles position is that Reid has never shown any hesitance to trade up to get a guy he's after and this year, the Eagles are in a strange circumstance in that they start where they usually trade up to.

Is he thinking go for bust and trade all the way up inside the top five?  I don't know.

However, if Ferguson is still available when four picks have been made, I wouldn't be surprised to see Andy go for broke to get him.  I have no proof of this and it's sheer speculation on my part but I can't say I wouldn't be thrilled to see Ferguson in an Eagles jersey no matter what the cost would be.
Title: Re: Michael Huff - Why The Sudden Pimping By The Birds?
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on April 12, 2006, 11:20:07 AM
D'Brick falling past 4 would be pretty much a dream scenario.  But the Packers could certainly use help on the offensive line and arguably moreso than the Eagles.  Plus, how are we supposed to pry both Javon Walker and the #5 pick from Green Bay?  That would be a tricky proposition.
Title: Re: Michael Huff - Why The Sudden Pimping By The Birds?
Post by: reese125 on April 12, 2006, 11:34:44 AM
Quote from: FFatPatt on April 12, 2006, 11:20:07 AM
D'Brick falling past 4 would be pretty much a dream scenario.  But the Packers could certainly use help on the offensive line and arguably moreso than the Eagles.  Plus, how are we supposed to pry both Javon Walker and the #5 pick from Green Bay?  That would be a tricky proposition.

we dont. Stay where we are at, take our pick for future playing time and get what we truly need NOW....JW....which will require some nifty negotiating of draft and future picks. Since I want that, that means the Eagles will move up and we wont get JW

but im no telling you anything you dont already know or has been written 93 times. So heres 94
Title: Re: Michael Huff - Why The Sudden Pimping By The Birds?
Post by: Rome on April 12, 2006, 04:39:42 PM
I don't see Green Bay giving up Walker to the Eagles.  I'd be thrilled if they did but I'd rather have Ferguson any day over Walker.

Hell, if the Eagles had Ferguson, they could keep Greg Lewis in the lineup because McNabb would have 8-10 seconds on each down to throw the thing.

;)