Jim Thome. :yay
thome is the only player on my entire fantasy team that has a chance to hit more than 25 homers this year
why do you suck at fantasy baseball?
i suck at all fantasy
worst baseball team
last in golf
won the regular season in hockey but just gagged in the playoffs
2nd to last in basketball and the guy behind me gave up months ago
missed the playoffs in football
you're like an ATM when it comes to fantasy sports
Mets/Nats on ESPN now...
Glavine vs. Livan Hernandez (I'd love to see him become a Phillie).
Mets rookie 2B Anderson Hernandez made a nice play going to his right.
I hope Big Mouth Billy blows a save and a tendon today.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 03, 2006, 01:30:21 PM
I hope Big Mouth Billy blows a save and a tendon today.
Pedro Gomez, who is consistently suckling on Omar Minaya's sack, picked Wagner to win the NL Cy Young.
Pedro's been doing double duty. In between him taking Barry up his ass he likes to blow Minaya. His orifices are being worn out.
why the hell do i get espnews on espn now?
Quote from: MDS on April 03, 2006, 02:54:39 PM
why the hell do i get espnews on espn now?
Is the Phillies game on ESPN nationally? Then, they can't show it you because of conflict with the local channels.
its not. im a dork. i know stupid tv rules. but i cant figure this one out. i guess were getting blacked out of the ny and/or dc markets now? hows that work>
Quote from: Sun_Mo on April 03, 2006, 10:23:58 AM
you're like an ATM when it comes to fantasy sports
:-D I'm signing up for every fantasy league IGY plays in.
Padres fan threw a syringe at Bonds (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/recap?gameId=260403125)
batteries > syringes
I don't suppose it was bionic, eh? (http://www.concretefield.com/forum/index.php?topic=14636.0)
(http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e236/MIB-1/Cubsmarketingposter.jpg)
Thome hit another bomb today.
Keep it up, Jim.
My boy Crazy Vicente is throwing well...4 shutout innings so far against the BoSox.
Get a load of this shtein...
I am reading on PhilaPhans that WFAN and the Yankees fans in NYC are having a heart attack and feel dissed because Billy Wagner enters to the Metallica song. The same Metallica song (Enter Sandman) as Mariano Rivera. So Francessa and Mad Dog are crying and saying how the Mets and Wags have no respect and Fracessa even said he didn't care if Wags was a member of metallica he shouldn't use Mariano's music.
Are you kidding me? All of that bitching over a song? :-D :-D
What do you expect, NY fans are losers.
The Yankees and their 20-whatever World Series titles? Frauds.
this again proves the new york sucks thoery
Quote from: Philly Forever on April 04, 2006, 10:01:31 PM
What do you expect, NY fans are losers.
yeah, philly fans never whine about irrelevent stuff...
see: hoagies at the Linc
Clemens on JPN/KOR at the WBC: "None of the dry cleaners were open" (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2397288) :-D
QuoteRoger Clemens was discussing his future Tuesday at the Astros season opener when he responded to a question about his health after the World Baseball Classic with a comment that some might consider racially insensitive.
Clemens, who broke down late last season with injuries, said he felt fine after the WBC and left the tournament impressed by the quality of the international teams.
But he made a questionable comment when speaking about the devotion of the Japanese and South Korean fans.
"None of the dry cleaners were open, they were all at the game, Japan and Korea," Clemens said. "So we couldn't get any dry cleaning done out there, but I guess the neatest thing is that 50,000 of them were at Anaheim Stadium."
:-D
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 04, 2006, 08:22:01 PM
Thome hit another bomb today.
Keep it up, Jim.
Too bad Freddy Garcia got roughed up. :boom Still, Johan Santana lost, which is always a good thing.
Quote from: henchmanUK on April 05, 2006, 06:11:43 AM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 04, 2006, 08:22:01 PM
Thome hit another bomb today.
Keep it up, Jim.
Too bad Freddy Garcia got roughed up. :boom Still, Johan Santana lost, which is always a good thing.
Not for my fantasy team.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 04, 2006, 10:00:37 PM
Get a load of this shtein...
I am reading on PhilaPhans that WFAN and the Yankees fans in NYC are having a heart attack and feel dissed because Billy Wagner enters to the Metallica song. The same Metallica song (Enter Sandman) as Mariano Rivera. So Francessa and Mad Dog are crying and saying how the Mets and Wags have no respect and Fracessa even said he didn't care if Wags was a member of metallica he shouldn't use Mariano's music.
Are you kidding me? All of that bitching over a song? :-D :-D
Rivera said he didn't even care, but just that he hopes when the mets play the yankees that he is the one coming out to that music.
Quote from: thrillhouse on April 05, 2006, 12:12:13 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 04, 2006, 10:00:37 PM
Get a load of this shtein...
I am reading on PhilaPhans that WFAN and the Yankees fans in NYC are having a heart attack and feel dissed because Billy Wagner enters to the Metallica song. The same Metallica song (Enter Sandman) as Mariano Rivera. So Francessa and Mad Dog are crying and saying how the Mets and Wags have no respect and Fracessa even said he didn't care if Wags was a member of metallica he shouldn't use Mariano's music.
Are you kidding me? All of that bitching over a song? :-D :-D
Rivera said he didn't even care, but just that he hopes when the mets play the yankees that he is the one coming out to that music.
no way, dude...2 yankees' fans calling into talk radio and complaining = mariano rivera whining about it like a little girl
Never said Mariano was whining. I said the Yankees fans and the FAN were acting like bitches about it.
Billy Wags blows save, costs Mets the game....
I remember at phils games Wagner getting close to 100 on the gun. I dont think he's thrown one over 95 in his first two appearances. Does it take him some time to get warmed up, warmer weather? Or is he jsut old.
Quote from: thrillhouse on April 06, 2006, 12:56:17 PM
Billy Wags blows save, costs Mets the game....
I remember at phils games Wagner getting close to 100 on the gun. I dont think he's thrown one over 95 in his first two appearances. Does it take him some time to get warmed up, warmer weather? Or is he jsut old.
Could be a combination of being early season and perhaps the Mets using a slow gun.
Wagner does turn 35 this year, so he could lose 1-3 mph in the next year or two, but I doubt he's lost five this soon.
Here's a newsflash: The rest of baseball is better than the Phillies.
Tomas Perez is now a Devil Ray.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 07, 2006, 06:37:51 PM
Tomas Perez is now a Devil Ray.
Joyous reunion with Travis Lee, I'm sure!
He should give Travis a pie made of cyanide to the face.
Terry Mulholland is still playing. He's on Arizona.
(http://www.fulvuedrive-in.com/cover/MULHOLLANDFALLS.jpg)
Conelly gets naked in that movie :yay
Doesn't Naomi Watts also? I'll bet Naomi's a Dodgers fan, just like that dirty homo hbionic.
Quote from: FFatPatt on April 08, 2006, 01:44:27 PM
Doesn't Naomi Watts also? I'll bet Naomi's a Dodgers fan, just like that dirty homo hbionic.
if she was in the movie, there'd be a better chance she'd have been naked in it.
you are thinking of mulholland drive, the david lynch flick.
She's Australian, so I'd doubt it.
Quote from: Wingspan on April 08, 2006, 01:49:23 PM
you are thinking of mulholland drive, the david lynch flick.
Ah. I've seen neither.
I saw this on Philly.com and got a chuckle out of it...
Quote- The Devil Rays have met the March 31 deadline for informing Major League Baseball that they are considering a name change for 2007. Among the possibilities: Tarpons, Saints and simply Rays, a contraction that would also allude to Florida sunshine and please Christian groups who have been unhappy with the satanic reference since the original nickname was unveiled.
Jesus... :-D
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on April 08, 2006, 11:08:16 PM
I saw this on Philly.com and got a chuckle out of it...
Quote- The Devil Rays have met the March 31 deadline for informing Major League Baseball that they are considering a name change for 2007. Among the possibilities: Tarpons, Saints and simply Rays, a contraction that would also allude to Florida sunshine and please Christian groups who have been unhappy with the satanic reference since the original nickname was unveiled.
Jesus... :-D
I tell ya, Romey, I was all aghast at the Devil Rays moniker...
OK, I was more laughing at a stupid team name, but Tarpons? Why not the Sharks? Crocs? Brown Bears?
Of course, my high school was the Whippets and the school I work at is the Mighty Blue Herons. :-D
I hate whiners. Because I tell you what, every time I hear the name Devil Rays it sure does make me think of Satan sitting in hell fargin peoples souls up and whatever else he does.
Horseshtein.
When I hear Devil Rays I think of zesty baseball.
Whine, whine, whine.
By the way, the Yankees lost again. 1-4.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 09, 2006, 01:45:06 AM
I hate whiners. Because I tell you what, every time I hear the name Devil Rays it sure does make me think of Satan sitting in hell fargin peoples souls up and whatever else he does.
Horseshtein.
When I hear Devil Rays I think of zesty baseball.
Whine, whine, whine.
By the way, the Yankees lost again. 1-4.
Hey, they're only ½ game up on the Phils! :D
great article on Bonds (http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=klosterman/060411)
Bronson Arroyo hit the 2nd homer his career (2 this season) vs. the Cubs.
:-D
Quote from: Mad-Lad on April 11, 2006, 06:07:01 PM
Bronson Arroyo hit the 2nd homer his career (2 this season) vs. the Cubs.
:-D
Current tally:
Arroyo: 2 HR
Willy Mo Pena: 0 HR
Arroyo: 2 HR
Utely/Howard: 1 HR
Arroyo: 2HR
Bonds, Teixeira, Ramírez= 0
:o
Quote from: MURP on April 12, 2006, 08:51:05 AM
Arroyo: 2HR
Bonds, Teixeira, Ramírez= 0
:o
GET ARROYO!
Thome homers in 4th straight (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/recap?gameId=260413106)
Good for Thome. I still like the trade and would do it all over again because they got two pitching prospects and a very good CF. But I want Big Jim to crush 50 so all of the ignorant fans who booed him and blasted him on the radio can cram it right up their smelly goat asses.
And something else...is anyone else tired of ESPN's continuous pimping of Barry Bonds? Can Pedro Gomez be any farther up in Barry's ass? Every goddamn minute on that station is Bonds, Bonds, Bonds. SHUT UP!
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 14, 2006, 08:07:38 PM
And something else...is anyone else tired of ESPN's continuous pimping of Barry Bonds? Can Pedro Gomez be any farther up in Barry's ass? Every goddamn minute on that station is Bonds, Bonds, Bonds. SHUT UP!
seriously, who gives a farg about bonds? i don't think anybody but the media (espn) cares.
Nats GM Jim Bowden was arrested for a DUI while the team was in FLA.
No wonder why he makes dumb trades and signings! He's a drunk!
2 Yankees minor league coaches killed in accident (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2415088)
The $50M pitcher AJ Burnett is back on the DL again. Elbow problems. Again.
bonds hit a homer. everyone cares.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 22, 2006, 11:04:38 PM
The $50M pitcher AJ Burnett is back on the DL again. Elbow problems. Again.
And he's going to get it checked out by Dr. Andrews. That usually isn't good news.
Quote from: MDS on April 22, 2006, 11:13:01 PM
bonds hit a homer. everyone cares.
they'll be talkin about it on espn for days until he hits the next one. :boom :puke
Quote from: MDS on April 22, 2006, 11:13:01 PM
bonds hit a homer. everyone cares.
Barry luvs him some Coors Field.
Stuck in the 80s
(http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20060423/capt.wimg10104231852.reds_brewers_baseball_wimg101.jpg)
(http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20060423/capt.wimg10904232126.reds_brewers_baseball_wimg109.jpg)
(http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20060423/capt.wimg10304231855.reds_brewers_baseball_wimg103.jpg)
Mesa hit Vizquel with a pitch last night => 5 ejections today (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/recap?gameId=260423127)
Quote"Whoever is in charge of stopping it better stop it and stop it soon. Because we play 15 more games," Alou said.
History: Vizquel blasted Mesa in his autobiography, saying he choked and it was his fault the Indians lost the '97 World Series, and Mesa has vowed to never forget about it...
bonds is on pace for 11 homers this year.
Quote from: phattymatty on April 23, 2006, 09:27:18 PM
bonds is on pace for 11 homers this year.
That'll get him past Ruth.
I think he'll retire after this season. His skill are now eroding- unless a doctor tells him there is a chance of a full (or nearly full) recovery after a year. I just don't see that, though. On top of that, the intense scrutiny and endless coverage have to be wearing on him mentally as well.
He will pass Ruth at the bandbox against Ryan Franklin.
he'd bounce right back with some well timed injections
SAN DIEGO -- Mets broadcaster Keith Hernandez's comments that women "don't belong in the dugout" drew criticism Sunday from Padres manager Bruce Bochy, who supported the female member of his training staff and said he was surprised her gender even came up.
Hernandez made the remarks during the second inning of New York's 8-1 victory in San Diego on Saturday night. Mike Piazza homered for the Padres and exchanged a high-five in the dugout with 33-year-old Kelly Calabrese, the Padres' massage therapist.
"Who is the girl in the dugout, with the long hair?" Hernandez said. "What's going on here? You have got to be kidding me. Only player personnel in the dugout."
Hernandez found out later in the broadcast that Calabrese was with the Padres' training staff.
"I won't say that women belong in the kitchen, but they don't belong in the dugout," Hernandez said.
he speaks the truth. she should be in the kitchen. or at cleaning the dugout.
Keith says "Dugouts are Just for Men"
*rimshot*
You're a regular Brad Garrett.
Quote from: BigEd76 on April 24, 2006, 05:24:55 PM
Keith says "Dugouts are Just for Men"
*rimshot*
There's absolutely no reason to laugh at that dumb ass joke but I did anyway.
Keith Hernandez should be embarassed for making that hair loss commercial with Walt Frazier.
Extremely gay.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 24, 2006, 06:21:22 PM
Keith Hernandez should be embarassed for making that hair loss commercial with Walt Frazier.
Extremely gay.
Extremely gay or great acting, i would submit that they are one in the same.
why are teams still walking Barry Bonds? he is a gimp, he's done. pitch to him and embarass him.
think hard about that statement, unless you were being your usual sarcastic self, then its ok
i'm being serious, the guy has no power anymore, there's no reason to walk him. make him beat you before you start treating him like he's 2002 Barry Bonds
i'm being serious
link?
how about so we dont have to hear about him every day anymore than we already do. walk him every at bat. good.
its not a test Mo, to see if a team can try and get by an inning without Bonds homering. Hes still a great hitter and still looks like Hanz and Franz combined.
I wouldnt doubt pitchers and coaches are intentionally doing it, so he doesnt get the record their so disgusted by him
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 25, 2006, 01:51:41 PM
i'm being serious
link?
http://www.mso.anu.edu.au/albums/album23/Eggen.sized.jpg
the guy didn't play a whole year, has an awful knee that he can't generate power from. i hated how much they walked him when he was juiced and hitting 73 HR, but i understood it, now it's just asinine. it's like doing the the hack-a-shaq during an October game between the Heat and Bobcats.
it's like doing the the hack-a-shaq during an October game between the Heat and Bobcats.
why because Bonds is an easy out now parallel to Shaq missing free-throws? stop yourself
Shaq hit free throws with more regularity than Bonds gets hits
Bonds just went yard off Billy Wagner, oh, the excitement.
2-run HR to left-center with 2 outs in the 9th. :yay
Go Mets (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=jp-iriki042806&prov=yhoo&type=lgns)
Speaking of drugs, Steve Howe was killed in a truck accident...
...and the truck was built out of crack?
Quote from: BigEd76 on April 28, 2006, 08:41:53 PM
Speaking of drugs, Steve Howe was killed in a truck accident...
Here's an article. (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=ap-obit-howe&prov=ap&type=lgns)
Milwaukee beat the Cubs today 16-2.
Look at the Twins score :-D
Quote from: SD_Eagle on April 29, 2006, 07:34:45 PM
Milwaukee beat the Cubs today 16-2.
Tigers beat the Twins 18-1.
How come there are weeks that go without a game like this, then they all happen the same time? Seriously, it seems like it does this a lot.
Mets win 1-0 over the Braves, take the 1st two games and winning the series... and now sit 7 games up. :yay
Quote from: SD_Eagle on April 29, 2006, 07:43:52 PM
Quote from: BigEd76 on April 29, 2006, 07:38:34 PM
Look at the Twins score :-D
Holy shtein
Former Phil Carlos Silva (traded for Eric Milton) gave up 9 ER in 2.2 innings. His ERA is now 10.31.
Quote from: Dillen37 on April 29, 2006, 07:38:44 PM
Quote from: SD_Eagle on April 29, 2006, 07:34:45 PM
Milwaukee beat the Cubs today 16-2.
Tigers beat the Twins 18-1.
How come there are weeks that go without a game like this, then they all happen the same time? Seriously, it seems like it does this a lot.
Add a third: Yankees 17-6 over Toronto.
Quote from: Geowhizzer on April 29, 2006, 10:07:30 PM
Quote from: SD_Eagle on April 29, 2006, 07:43:52 PM
Quote from: BigEd76 on April 29, 2006, 07:38:34 PM
Look at the Twins score :-D
Holy shtein
Former Phil Carlos Silva (traded for Eric Milton) gave up 9 ER in 2.2 innings. His ERA is now 10.31.
thats almost an improvement over the phils staff.
Bonds HRed again. 2 away from Ruth
SF goes to MIL for two before coming to Philadelphia.
My first thought tonight when I saw he hit 712 was...
If he ties or breaks The Babe in Philadelphia what will the reception be?
And if it is as bad as I think it will be, will we be crucified even though Bonds deserves to be treated like a fleshpop?
Now if they do racial stuff, throw stuff or anything stupid like that I can understand. But will the national media kill Philly for killing Bonds?
If someone kills him, they should get a free pass.
Thome just hit his 13th.
Good for Big Jim. And he continues to make the morons in this city who booed him and said he was done look foolish.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on May 06, 2006, 09:13:25 PM
Thome just hit his 13th.
Nice to see him have a bounce back year. Though he's no longer a Phil, I am still a Thome fan.
Am I the only one who still thinks the Mets are a farse? They will inevitably collapse. The only question is who will overtake them. The Braves or the Phillies?
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on May 06, 2006, 11:07:55 PM
Good for Big Jim. And he continues to make the morons in this city who booed him and said he was done look foolish.
Well he was hurting the team by playing, but it wasn't because he was finished. It's good an all to tough it out during injuries, but when your injury is clearly taking away from your performence, you best sit it out. Jim tried for too long to play through it, and who knows, an extra day or two of Ryan Howard in the middle of June could have been that one game. Still, booing Thome like they did wasn't right. Boo David Bell.
Here's the story about the fan that sold his loyalty of eBay. (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=jp-auction050506&prov=yhoo&type=lgns)
Excerpt:
QuoteAnd so until July 21, Carroll is a lame-duck fan. On that night, he and his friends will gather for their yearly get-together in Cleveland. They'll watch the Indians play Minnesota, then drive about an hour to Cleveland's outskirts. There, they'll gather around a table and start dealing cards. A few hours later, the champion of their annual Hold 'em tournament will win not only a bracelet but the right to choose Carroll's new team.
...Young called Carroll on Thursday morning and asked: What if you win the poker tournament? It has happened twice in the last six years.
"If I win," Carroll said, "your readers can pick my team."
So if Carroll takes the tournament and the most vociferous emails to pickchadsteam@yahoo.com come from Royals fans – a daily double of pigs-fly-and-hell-freezes-over proportions – then the Royals it is.
I'm sure we could come up with an... interesting way to promote becoming a Phillies fan. :D
Quote from: MDS on May 07, 2006, 01:26:04 AM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on May 06, 2006, 11:07:55 PM
Good for Big Jim. And he continues to make the morons in this city who booed him and said he was done look foolish.
Well he was hurting the team by playing, but it wasn't because he was finished. It's good an all to tough it out during injuries, but when your injury is clearly taking away from your performence, you best sit it out. Jim tried for too long to play through it, and who knows, an extra day or two of Ryan Howard in the middle of June could have been that one game. Still, booing Thome like they did wasn't right. Boo David Bell.
Yeah, but the geniuses in the media here would've roasted him either way. If he plays, he's hurting the team. If he sits, he's being a vadge.
We heard BOTH of them from the wonderlicious WIP last year. After he decided to shut it down he was a Hoyda because he bailed out on his team. And they said that he chose to have the surgery in July because he didn't want to be traded.
And as we know, the brain capacity of most fans here is only enough to take on what WIP tells them to. So they told the lemmings that Thome was wrong and the "fans" let him have it.
Millwood gave up 9 earned tonight. His ERA is now 5.13. Good $60M spent there, Texas. :yay
Eaton is still on the DL, Millwood is slop, Tejeda is not throwing well and Crazy Vicente is so-so.
Oh, and Juan PIerre robbed Barry of 714 minutes ago.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on May 09, 2006, 11:33:21 PM
Millwood gave up 9 earned tonight. His ERA is now 5.13. Good $60M spent there, Texas. :yay
Eaton is still on the DL, Millwood is slop, Tejeda is not throwing well and Crazy Vicente is so-so.
Oh, and Juan PIerre robbed Barry of 714 minutes ago.
yeah but this guy (http://cbs.sportsline.com/mlb/players/player/gamelogs/2006/448403) (who we gave up for wagner) isnt too shabby thus far
Yeah, Buchholtz is throwing very well. He's from Lower Merion too.
yeah, i hear about him all the time, his family is actually friends with my family.
although the last time i met taylor was when he was a jr in high school. nice kid. he was thrilled he was drafted by the phils. his family wasnt too happy when he was traded away.
Understandably so. Funny thing about that trade (I was just discussing it on the EMB too) was that Duckworth was the guy who Ed Wade was reluctant to give up on the most. Duckworth now is in the Pirates minors and couldn't even make that rotation.
pink bats
http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/press_releases/press_release.jsp?ymd=20060509&content_id=1444759&vkey=pr_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb
Every player in the Royals lineup had an RBI today.
I wonder when the last time that happened or if it has ever happened at all?
Bonding With the Babe
In a March column titled "Time for Selig to Bury Bonds," New York Daily News sports pasha Mike Lupica wrote, "They will cheer [Bonds] in San Francisco when he passes Babe Ruth, and we will hear again that his most vituperative critics hate him, the arrogant black star, for passing the portly white guy who has been one of the famous names in American sports since the '20s. As if Bonds is breaking some kind of record by passing Ruth. As if we care about that anymore."
But as Bonds, now with 713 home runs, staggers on buckling knees toward Ruth's epic 714 total, Lupica has been proved painfully wrong. Even though the actual home run record is Hank Aaron's 755, the baseball world is on edge as Bonds approaches the Great Bambino.
Baseball commissioner Bud Selig, whose gray, shadowed countenance looks like a map of Mordor, announced that there would be no ceremony when Bonds passes Ruth. "Hank Aaron broke Babe Ruth's record," Selig said. "We don't celebrate anybody the second or third time in."
But as Selig well knows, the church of baseball puts its faith in a catechism of sacred numerology. The most historically important arguably is 714. As Josh DuBow of the Associated Press writes, "More than three decades have passed since 714 represented baseball's career home run record. Yet there is still something magical about Babe Ruth's old record. 'The average person probably knows 714 more than 755...but 755 is the record,' Cubs manager Dusty Baker said." It doesn't take Kreskin to divine the message Selig is sending by ignoring Bonds's run on history. In a Chicago Tribune piece called "This Snub's for You," Phil Rogers seethes, "Babe Ruth, celebrated as the grandest character in baseball lore, is being chased by an anti-hero whose act has grown tired and, at times, pretty much pathetic."
Even though Bonds has never been convicted of any crime, has never tested positive for a banned substance and has played the game at a higher level than any player of his chemically enhanced generation, he is the game's pariah, the media-appointed "symbol of the steroid era." Now that the owners have mined their billions from the 1990s home run binge, and everyone has a Congressional hangover, Bonds is persona non grata.
The thought of Bonds passing Ruth clearly makes Selig's pallor turn an even murkier shade of gray. Babe Ruth, Lupica's assurances aside, remains the most treasured and important figure in baseball history. Home runs are still called "Ruthian." Yankee Stadium is still the House That Ruth Built. Ruth is the man with the fifty-four-ounce bat, someone so portly the famed Yankee pinstripes were first stitched on just to make him appear less rotund.
Yet Ruth is also someone treasured through a vapor of nostalgia so thick that he has become myth to the disservice of all except those who use his dewy memory to bash present-day players for their moral failings. The truth is far more complicated. The description of a mercurial, complicated, egomaniacal star whose personal behavior might skirt legality is one that matches not only Bonds but Ruth as well.
Ruth's 714 home run record lacks the spit-shined purity his backers trumpet. The Sultan of Swat made his bones playing against only a select segment of the population because of the ban on players whose skin color ran brown to black. Ruth never had to hit against Negro League greats Satchel Paige or Lefty Mathis to amass the magic 714. Yet no asterisk for institutionalized racism mars the Babe's marks. Ruth also was a habitual user of a banned substance that was deemed unambiguously illegal by the federal government--a drug Ruth believed enhanced his performance: alcohol. Ruth was a star during the roaring prohibition 1920s, and as teammate Joe Dugan said, "Babe would go day and night, broads and booze."
But Ruth didn't just stop at the watering hole to find an edge. According to The Baseball Hall of Shame's Warped Record Book, by Bruce Nash, Allan Zullo and Bob Smith, the Bambino fell ill one year attempting to inject himself with extract from a sheep's testes. This effort by more than a few athletes of his era to seek the healing and strengthening properties of testosterone prefigured the craze for steroids. When Ruth fell ill from his attempted enhancement, the media was told that Ruth merely had "a bellyache." This was believable since Ruth was a glutton, famed for eating eighteen-egg omelets. The Sultan of Swat was also a glutton for women and violence, and he could be roused to fisticuffs if it was suggested, as it often was, that he was part black. The Babe's famous trade-out of Boston in 1920 was justified by Sox owner Harry Frazee by saying that Ruth was "one of the most selfish and inconsiderate athletes I have ever seen."
Of course in Ruth's day, without twenty-four-hour sports yipping and with sportswriting reduced to sonnets of heroism for a country weary after World War I, his flaws were essentially invisible to an adoring public. But Bonds's flaws are picked over, his every strikeout met with cheers by a herd of likeminded writers who who act more like the White House press corps than independent journalists.
It's a shame, because this could be an opportunity to reacquaint a new generation of fans with the singular Ruth. It could be an opportunity to explain that all heroes are flawed and no era is pristine. Instead, the media is smothering Bonds, and the rest of us, under the weight of a bowdlerized Babe.
its even more a shame that ESPN continues to air Bonds as a higher figure...sickening
QuoteBut Ruth didn't just stop at the watering hole to find an edge. According to The Baseball Hall of Shame's Warped Record Book, by Bruce Nash, Allan Zullo and Bob Smith, the Bambino fell ill one year attempting to inject himself with extract from a sheep's testes. This effort by more than a few athletes of his era to seek the healing and strengthening properties of testosterone prefigured the craze for steroids. When Ruth fell ill from his attempted enhancement, the media was told that Ruth merely had "a bellyache." This was believable since Ruth was a glutton, famed for eating eighteen-egg omelets. The Sultan of Swat was also a glutton for women and violence, and he could be roused to fisticuffs if it was suggested, as it often was, that he was part black. The Babe's famous trade-out of Boston in 1920 was justified by Sox owner Harry Frazee by saying that Ruth was "one of the most selfish and inconsiderate athletes I have ever seen."
That's the first time I've seen that theory on the Babe's bellyache in 1925. Most historical research I've read classified it as syphilis, gonorrhea or some other STD, or else accept that Ruth had an ulcer of some sort.
The section of Babe's bellyache (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babe_Ruth#.22The_Bellyache_Heard_Around_the_World.22) on Wikipedia.
This Great Game.com (http://www.thisgreatgame.com/1925.html)- Pretty much the official version (ulcer)
Quote from: reese125 on May 11, 2006, 12:26:48 PM
its even more a shame that ESPN continues to air Bonds as a higher figure...sickening
Thats to be expected. ESPN sold out a loooooong time ago. They are no longer a sports network, they are an entertainment network with sports as a backdrop. I only watch ESPN for games now, everything else is tuned the farg out.
sutcliffe blasted on radio....
http://images.gaslampball.com/images/admin/sutcliffe.mp3
video version
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MT0JTwBehA
i heard that on the radio his morning, sutcliffe is my new hero.
What a lush, about 3/4 the way through I thought he was gonna pull a Namath and tell the Pads announcer he wanted to kiss him. Reminded me a bit of Frank the Tank.
george clooney is gonna solve that thing.
Quote from: phattymatty on May 12, 2006, 11:45:22 AM
george clooney is gonna solve that thing.
That part was my favorite, drunk people talking about politics is always amusing.
(http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20060512/capt.36c145383d794c07859db70de59b0686.red_sox_yankees_baseball_nyy201.jpg)
:-D :-D @ the Sutcliffe thing.
He sounds like that guy in Half Baked
"hey mannnnnnnnnn...."
QuoteBaseball Notes | Twins' Silva sent to bullpen
Baseball Notable
The Minnesota Twins changed their struggling rotation yesterday, sending shaky Carlos Silva to the bullpen and promoting lefthander Francisco Liriano.
Liriano, 22, is one of baseball's top prospects, a hard thrower whose slider has reached 90 m.p.h. He is 1-0 with a 3.22 ERA in 12 relief appearances, with 32 strikeouts in 221/3 innings.
Liriano will start Friday night at Milwaukee.
Silva, a former Phillie, is 2-6 with an 8.80 ERA.
Liriano is supposed to be a stud prospect. I believe that the Twins got him with Joe Nathan for AJ Pierzynski.
Dmitri Young will be arrested on domestic violence charges (http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060518/NEWS03/605180443/1050/SPORTS02)
Not a good month for the Young brothers. First Delmon and now Dmitri.
Albert Belle arrested for harassing same woman he was already arrested for harassing (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2449605)
He be smart.
http://www.nydailynews.com/front/story/419125p-353913c.html
miller lite girls were at he bar giving out free beer and they gave me a raffle ticket. which i won. front row seats to tonight's nats-Os game. in the miller lite box.
i wouldnt call that winning....id take ten years of my life before i went to that game...much less any non philly team sporting event
free miller lite and food in the box.
Quote from: phattymatty on May 19, 2006, 11:32:36 AM
free miller lite and food in the box.
It doesn't even matter if there's a game going on, then.
id rather pay double for beer and food and watch the phils...cant get mad at free beer tho
free beer >>>>>>>>> watching the Phillies
I don't even see it as a contest. Even if the Phillies were good enough to go 157-5.
beer is cheap....getting it free isn't the end all of life
Quote from: FFatPatt on May 19, 2006, 12:17:29 PM
free beer >>>>>>>>> watching the Phillies
I don't even see it as a contest. Even if the Phillies were good enough to go 157-5.
I agree up until playoff time. So I guess I agree 100% of the time.
free beer >>>>>>>>> watching the Phillies
yous must be hurtin for money then
an 18 pack of miller lite is like 10 bucks
$10 18 pack of beer and the phils>nats orioles
shtein parking to go to the game is ten bucks or more
i don't be driving to that place. 15 min. metro ride. actually i don't drive anywhere, i drink too much.
I'm simply saying that watching the Phillies is painful.
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 19, 2006, 12:16:20 PM
id rather pay double for beer and food and watch the phils...cant get mad at free beer tho
somehow, i highly doubt that. but hey, it sounds dedicated and cool
somehow, i highly doubt that
absolutely true....i wont go to sporting events if it doesnt have a philly team involved...and i definitely wouldnt do it if it meant missing a philly teams game...you can even ask my girl...she despises me for it
despite my undying hatred for the taterskins, i don't hate the rest of he washington teams nearly as much. i go to a lot of wizards and caps games, especially if i get hooked up with some good free seats. a couple people i know have real good seats that they sometimes give away if they can't make it.
plus it's a nice change watching a game when you actually just want a good game and could care less who actually wins. oh, and it's still beer and sports.
furthermore, i watch about 5 phillies games a year on tv, baseball on tv is the worst. at the stadium is geat but i can't watch it indoors.
yeah well if you dont really care about the phils that changes everything...you def gotta go for the free beer and food
i despise all washington sports....especially the caps...nats are gaining tho (skins of course are on another planet from all other teams washington or not)
well the caps aren't even in philly's division, so if i had to pick a favorite wash team it would be them. and when i go to nationals games i will usually root for the other team, unless its the braves or mets, who i hate more.
and i root for the phillies, i'll see most of the games when they're here and maybe once or twice in philly, but i'm just not that big of a baseball fan to begin with.
Quote from: phattymatty on May 19, 2006, 02:18:02 PM
well the caps aren't even in philly's division,
They used to be and I have a huge hatred for that team because of it. Those days with Dale Hunter....argh. I hate that friggin team.
cap flyer games at the cap center were legendary...one of the best sports atmospheres ive ever been to...it was back then that spawned my hatred of the caps as well...during that era i hated them more than even the skins
The Cubs suck. This is funny.
Quote from: henchmanUK on May 20, 2006, 02:59:10 PM
The Cubs suck. This is funny.
(http://mlb.mlb.com/images/2006/05/20/LRzppnWV.jpg)
:-D That was one of the best baseball punches I've seen in quite a while.
A better view:
(http://msn.foxsports.com/id/5624774_36_3.jpg)
Baroid hit 714, who cares.
Barrett just flipped out. You'd think with him being a catcher and all, he would know that getting plastered is part of the game. Did he expect AJ to go easy on him because he is a fellow catcher?
Anyways, at least he threw a real punch. Baseball fights are usually a contest of who can man-hug the most guys while trying to look tough. Or a guy looking tough and taking his time to get to the mound so someone can "hold him back".
F Bonds.
Barrett will probably be suspended for at least 15 games.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on May 21, 2006, 02:32:19 AM
Barrett just flipped out. You'd think with him being a catcher and all, he would know that getting plastered is part of the game. Did he expect AJ to go easy on him because he is a fellow catcher?
Anyways, at least he threw a real punch. Baseball fights are usually a contest of who can man-hug the most guys while trying to look tough. Or a guy looking tough and taking his time to get to the mound so someone can "hold him back".
F Bonds.
Pierzynski's known for running his mouth a bit, so he could have said something that set Barrett off. Barrett also may have though AJ was showing him up by slapping the plate after the collision. Barrett should have known better, though. Even Dusty Baker didn't back him up on it. He'll have 5 games or so to think about it.
In the other story, Barrett may have been upset because Pierzynski hit him when he didn't have the ball. If he was blocking the plate, the runner can't always know whether or not the catcher had the ball. My guess is that Barrett had his bell rung and reacted badly- just didn't have his wits about him.
Write-up on the brawl by the AP. (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=ap-cubs-whitesoxbrawl&prov=ap&type=lgns)
Photos from FoxSports.com (http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/pgStory?contentId=5625312)
Another write-up. (http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/5622514?CMP=OTC-K9B140813162&ATT=49)
In my opinion, Pierzynski shouldn't have really even been thrown out of the game, but was because he was "involved" in the scuffle. He probably won't be suspended, and would certainly appeal if he is. Mabry and Anderson will probably get a token game or two, and Barrett will miss 5 or so.
This afternoon's game could be quite interesting.
Pierzynski said afterwords that he was trying to step around Barrett to grab his helmet and after watching the replay I can't say I disagree one bit. Sometimes players make excuses afterwords but in this case it really looked like he trying going around Barrett and pick up his helmet.
Why he got ejected is beyond me because it seemed clear that he didn't even start the confrontation. Barrett got up, grabbed him and then punched him.
Still, props to Barrett for throwing a manly punch.
Quote from: MDS on May 21, 2006, 01:20:21 AM
Baroid hit 714, who cares.
He does:
(http://msn.foxsports.com/id/5624830_7_3.jpg)
Baseball players fighting. How cute.
Let your vote be heard! (http://sports.espn.go.com/chat/sportsnation/ballot?event_id=2189)
Abreu is winning the Astros one and the Devil Rays one
Sandberg is winning the Phillies one
Quote from: BigEd76 on May 24, 2006, 04:46:33 PM
Abreu is winning the Astros one and the Devil Rays one
Astros also had Johan Santana. Awesome. :D
The Reds DFA'd LHP Dave Williams and he was picked up by the Mets.
Who is Dave Williams?
He's the guy the Pirates traded to Cincy for Sean Casey.
The Reds now have nothing to show for dealing Casey away.
Who is Dave Williams?
he would be the guy who a week and a half ago held your team of choice for the world series to one run in eight innings
I know who he is, it was a more of a rhetorical question. I should've added the "you ask?" at the end of it.
And the fact that some no-name scrub would hold the Phillies offense down should not shock anyone. That has been happening for years.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on May 26, 2006, 02:32:01 AM
I know who he is, it was a more of a rhetorical question. I should've added the "you ask?" at the end of it.
And the fact that some no-name scrub would hold the Phillies offense down should not shock anyone. That has been happening for years.
The point is that it *should* shock you if you really thought this was a World Series team.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on May 21, 2006, 09:19:12 AM
Pierzynski said afterwords that he was trying to step around Barrett to grab his helmet and after watching the replay I can't say I disagree one bit. Sometimes players make excuses afterwords but in this case it really looked like he trying going around Barrett and pick up his helmet.
Why he got ejected is beyond me because it seemed clear that he didn't even start the confrontation. Barrett got up, grabbed him and then punched him.
Still, props to Barrett for throwing a manly punch.
So now the Twins, Angels and Cubs all hate AJ. Good. Those bitch-arse teams aren't fit to polish the Sox's trophy. ;D
Frank Robinson was in tears yesterday after a win because his catcher had to be pulled after giving up 7 SBs...
yeah, i saw that, it was really weird.
you could tell that he cares for is players though.
Barrett got suspended for 10 games.
good, farging punk ass
Quote from: FFatPatt on May 26, 2006, 11:29:03 AM
Barrett got suspended for 10 games.
Sounds about right. Some will say he should have gotten more, but that's usually the going rate for baseball brawls.
Well, there goes my fantasy league catcher.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on May 26, 2006, 04:14:36 PM
Well, there goes my fantasy league catcher.
:-D Mine, too. Thankfully, in my eight-team league, Jorge Posada happened to be available as an FA. 8)
But Posada is hurt. He has a torn tendon or something behind his knee.
lol
QuoteMay 26 - The Angels are in a full-scale hunt for a power bat, and finances won't slow a deal if it's the right one, the Orange County Register reports. Owner Arte Moreno has given his pledge to bump up the payroll if another team makes a slugger available, and GM Bill Stoneman will consider moving prospects or major-leaguers, whether they're pitchers or position players.
Stoneman wants a hitter in the category of Paul Konerko, Manny Ramirez or Miguel Tejada, the three players the Angels tracked unsuccessfully last winter. "When I say an impact bat, I'm using the example of last year's free-agent market. There was one impact bat available," Stoneman told the newspaper. "We're looking for a guy who has a real impact, not where you're just changing faces. To get them you've got to give something up."
Hmm...Angels need a big bat.
I've been pimping Chone Figgins and a pitcher for Bobby A.
I would rather wait until the winter though.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on May 26, 2006, 04:28:03 PM
But Posada is hurt. He has a torn tendon or something behind his knee.
Dang it. :boom
That's what I get for trying to do this through 8th grade graduation and final exams. :-D
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on May 26, 2006, 04:28:03 PM
But Posada is hurt. He has a torn tendon or something behind his knee.
he's still better than fasano
Barry Bonds finally passes Babe Ruth.
Bonds 715th (http://proxy.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2461485)
I'm a Bonds fan but I'm the only reason I'm glad he hit it at this point is so that everyone will stfu about it for a few months until/if he gets close to Hammerin Hank.
Now ESPN has to fill an entire 60 minute segment of SC instead of cutting out 15 minutes of it for every Bonds at bat. Oh the horror.
Clemens re-signs with Astros (http://www.newsday.com/sports/baseball/yankees/ny-sprog0530,0,6890705.story?coll=ny-homepage-bigpix2005)
$3.5 million per month
Should we start an MLB Players Arrested Thread? (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=ap-indians-sauerbeckarrested&prov=ap&type=lgns)
Want a leadoff hitter? Carl Crawford may be available. (http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/5649680?CMP=OTC-K9B140813162&ATT=49)
Former Phil Jason Grimsley target of FBI steroid probe (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=ap-athletes-steroids&prov=ap&type=lgns)
(http://images.chron.com/photos/2006/06/06/2312779/600xPopupGallery.jpg)
easy....who ended up taking the wr from notre dame in the draft yesterday
The Cubs took him in the 5th round. They are calling him "1st round talent".
spell his name without looking it up....i dare you
Feel old moment: the Dodgers drafted Don Mattingly's son in the 1st round yesterday... :-\
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 07, 2006, 10:44:21 AM
spell his name without looking it up....i dare you
Szmarzdrza? Best I can do. I found the article about him being drafted by searching for "notre dame wr jeff" on Google.
Quote from: Geowhizzer on June 07, 2006, 09:20:42 AM
Former Phil Jason Grimsley target of FBI steroid probe (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=ap-athletes-steroids&prov=ap&type=lgns)
And Grimsley is released by the Diamondbacks. (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060607/ap_on_sp_ba_ne/bbn_diamondbacks_grimsley;_ylt=Auk0LiuFSQR21qIFjd_fFhNI2ocA;_ylu=X3oDMTA5aHJvMDdwBHNlYwN5bmNhdA--)
QuoteDiamondbacks pitcher Terry Mulholland...
He can't still be in the league, can he? He's got to be like 50.
damn, that sucks (http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/thiel/273042_thiel07.html)
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 07, 2006, 10:44:21 AM
spell his name without looking it up....i dare you
Not looking it up. Samardzija, but I follow college football closely.
Astros rookie pitcher Chris Sampson is making his first ML start today. Through 6 innings, 1 hit, 1 BB, 16 ground ball outs. Got sinker?
Quote from: phattymatty on June 07, 2006, 03:23:24 PM
damn, that sucks (http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/thiel/273042_thiel07.html)
That's hilariously ironic.
Quote from: Geowhizzer on June 07, 2006, 03:17:46 PM
Quote from: Geowhizzer on June 07, 2006, 09:20:42 AM
Former Phil Jason Grimsley target of FBI steroid probe (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=ap-athletes-steroids&prov=ap&type=lgns)
And Grimsley is released by the Diamondbacks. (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060607/ap_on_sp_ba_ne/bbn_diamondbacks_grimsley;_ylt=Auk0LiuFSQR21qIFjd_fFhNI2ocA;_ylu=X3oDMTA5aHJvMDdwBHNlYwN5bmNhdA--)
And, apparently, this could be the next big steroid scandal (actually HGH). (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylt=AsB3FrGiCXbRGMP.WpxF4EoRvLYF?slug=jp-hgh060706&prov=yhoo&type=lgns)
Time to feel old... :-\
Other notable names besides Drabek that were drafted:
-- Jeremy Papelbon (CHC, #569, LHP) and Josh Papelbon (BOS, #1443, RHP), the twin younger brothers of Jonathan
-- John Shelby Jr. (CHC, #165, 2B)
-- Josh Lansford (CHC, #179, 3B), son of Carney
-- Tyree Hayes (TB, #229, RHP), son of Charlie
-- Kanekoa Texeira (CWS, #675, RHP), cousin of Shane Victorino
-- Chad Gross (BOS, #793, 1B), son of Kevin
-- Cirilo Cruz (HOU, #819, 1B), nephew of Jose
-- Kurt Bradley (LAD, #983, 2B), son of Phil
-- Zach Helton (COL, #1098, 2B), cousin of Todd
-- Trent Henderson (HOU, #1119, SS), son of Dave
-- Scott Thomas (STL, #1156, C), son of Lee (former Phils GM)
-- David Cash (BAL, #1195, 2B), son of Dave
-- Lance Durham (DET, #1339, LF), son of Leon
-- Candy Maldonado Jr. (TB, #1365, RF)
-- Jonathan Fernandez (TOR, #1432, SS), son of Tony
Grimsley's court documents...with names blacked out
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0607061grimsley1.html
(http://random-m.com/images/1168852151_shocking.gif)
i got this image from somewhere else...something tells me it's a joke
LOL, read the last paragraph on there SunMo. LMFAO
HA!
SunMo was HAD! :-D
im like the networks...get the news out there fast, and worry about accuracy later
:-D :-D
Or like the Philly media....get the news out there...never worry about accuracy.
even better
awesome
juan pierre takes it up the ass?
take it for what its worth....
So ... We've Got Some Affidavit Names
Everyone's guessing about who the blacked-out names in the Jason Grimsley report are, and it has been a fun parlor game so far. But we all knew eventually the names would get out. And we've been digging around ... and some sources have given us some names.
How reliable are these names? We feel pretty confident in them, but we can't go 100 percent, since the information is secondhand. We'll say this: If Bud Selig issuing a press release naming the names is a 10, and picking a player at random out of the Baseball Encyclopedia is a 1, we're at an 8.
So. Let's do it then. Remember: Betting lines are for entertainment purposes only.
First: The person who told Grimsley about the positive test in 2003. That's former Royals general manager Allard Baird.
As many people have guessed, one of the "former players" who were sold out by Grimsley: Sammy Sosa. Our source(s) couldn't confirm if the other was Rafael Palmeiro.
Nothing new or exciting about that name. Then it starts to get interesting. We've heard amphetamine rumors of Miguel Tejada, but we can't confirm that. What we can confirm? The doozy.
Grimsley says that a former employee of [redacted] and personal fitness trainer to several Major League Baseball players once referred him to an amphetamine source.. Later, this source provided him with "amphetamines, anabolic steroids and human growth hormone." This trainer? His name is Chris Mihlfeld, a Kansas City-based "strength and conditioning guru." (And former Strength And Conditioning Coordinator for the Royals.)
Does Mihlfeld's name sound familiar? If it doesn't, he — and we assure you, this gives us no pleasure to write this — has been Albert Pujols' personal trainer since before Pujols was drafted by the Cardinals in the 13th round of the 1999 draft. We have no confirmation that Pujols' name is in the affidavit ... but Mihlfeld's is.
Yeah. Sigh. We just report what we're told, folks. Ever hope your source is wrong? This is one of those times.
http://www.deadspin.com/sports/baseball/so-weve-got-some-affidavit-names-179400.php
Yes! The golden boy is being implicated! This farging rules.
Sheffield to undergo wrist surgery; should not miss the rest of the season. (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=ap-yankees-sheffield&prov=ap&type=lgns)
A couple of ties to Kansas City in that article which I find quite humorous considering that KC has been one of the worst teams in baseball over the last 10 years. And it's not like the Royals have been known for having players with serious power either. I'd be hard pressed to think of any single player for them who hit more than 40 HR in the last 5 or 6 years.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on June 08, 2006, 09:02:53 PM
A couple of ties to Kansas City in that article which I find quite humorous considering that KC has been one of the worst teams in baseball over the last 10 years. And it's not like the Royals have been known for having players with serious power either. I'd be hard pressed to think of any single player for them who hit more than 40 HR in the last 5 or 6 years.
They haven't even had one hit
30 since 1999 (Jermaine Dye with 33). They've never had a player hit 40.
Which supports my theory even more that part of the Royals staff couldn't be involved. Or, if they were, then they weren't giving the stuff to their own players.
Oh, man.
Pujols? Wow.
Pujols... That's big.
For those that care (or at least enjoy legal mumbo-jumbo), here is Grimsley's affidavit (http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/sp/tools/med/2006/06/ipt/1149735814.pdf).
By the way, yesterday I was listening to the Dan Patrick Show, and he and Keith Olbermann estimated that Grimsley has played with over 1,000 players over the course of his career.
Grimsley has played with over 1,000 players over the course of his career
networkin dog
i guess we can all thank grimsley for helping the phils get to the 1993 series.
....
so...who wants to start a pool of the first current phillie to be named? and a second for currently playing ex-phillie (grimsley not withstanding) to be named?
Quote from: Wingspan on June 09, 2006, 09:32:29 AM
i guess we can all thank grimsley for helping the phils get to the 1993 series.
We can already... trading Grimsley got us Curt Schilling. :yay
Quote from: Wingspan on June 09, 2006, 09:32:29 AM
so...who wants to start a pool of the first current phillie to be named? and a second for currently playing ex-phillie (grimsley not withstanding) to be named?
Mickey Morandini! :D
Diamondbacks plan on withholding the rest of Grimsley's salary- agent plans to file grievance. (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=ap-diamondbacks-grimsley&prov=ap&type=lgns)
Former NY Yankee Jim Layritz admits trying HGH
http://www.sportsline.com/mlb/story/9490468
(http://www.comics.com/editoons/varvel/archive/images/varvel2004885560531.gif)
if over half of the pitchers that bonds hit HRs off of did steroids...does that make bonds more legit? if they all cheat, you could call it a level playing field again
Quote from: Wingspan on June 12, 2006, 04:44:08 PM
if over half of the pitchers that bonds hit HRs off of did steroids...does that make bonds more legit? if they all cheat, you could call it a level playing field again
Bonds couldn't even sniff 50 homers, let alone 70, without steroids, no matter what the pitchers were or weren't on... So, no. He's still a bum. Which is why baseball is in an unrecoverable death spiral.
Hell, the freaking White Sox won a WS. Does it get any worse than that?
Albert Pujols.
I love it.
He's legit-ish. But, a la Ken Griffey Jr, he'll be injured way too much to ever make a dent into 700 homers.
He's not legit. His personal trainer has been named. NAMED, I say!
Quote from: rjs246 on June 12, 2006, 04:55:26 PM
He's not legit. His personal trainer has been named. NAMED, I say!
he's legit if his trainer was syphoning HGH from pujols pituitary glands and injecting them into bonds.
Quote from: Wingspan on June 12, 2006, 04:56:29 PM
Quote from: rjs246 on June 12, 2006, 04:55:26 PM
He's not legit. His personal trainer has been named. NAMED, I say!
he's legit if his trainer was syphoning HGH from pujols pituitary glands and injecting them into bonds.
This might be the first hole anyone has ever poked in my logic. You're on my list.
Pujols eats babies, I heard.
Maybe there should be a Jason Grimsley thread:
Grimsley suspended 50 games for violation (http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/5688396?CMP=OTC-K9B140813162&ATT=49)
He wasn't planning on playing again anyway, so big freaking deal.
I have his rookie card. I think I'll cash that baby in now. Cha ching.
Quote from: FFatPatt on June 12, 2006, 07:40:20 PM
He wasn't planning on playing again anyway, so big freaking deal.
He's at least out the $$$ for the 50 games. Also gives more ammo to the D-backs to keep the rest of his cashola. :deion
He asked the D-Backs to be released, so he never had a leg to stand on to get the rest of his salary anyway.
Quote from: FFatPatt on June 13, 2006, 07:51:17 AM
He asked the D-Backs to be released, so he never had a leg to stand on to get the rest of his salary anyway.
That depends on the wording of his contract. Technically, since he was released, the club could still be responsible for paying the balance of the contract, as MLB contracts are generally guaranteed.
Believe me, I don't think Grimsley deserves a red cent of that money. I'm just not as sure as you that it's cut and dried that he won't get it.
And the Diamondbacks and the MLB Players union begin the war of words over Grimsley. (http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/5693480?CMP=OTC-K9B140813162&ATT=49)
Nice hit in last nights Red Sox - Twins game.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICwBbHijHUc&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Edeadspin%2Ecom%2F
Quote from: phattymatty on June 15, 2006, 02:18:35 PM
Nice hit in last nights Red Sox - Twins game.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICwBbHijHUc&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Edeadspin%2Ecom%2F
:-D That guy was taken down by the BATBOY. :-D
Dmitri Young in rehab, prety funny.
chat session (http://www.progressiveboink.com/dugout/archive/jon51.html)
QuoteNotGoodenough: /snorts weed
HA
David Segui admitted today that he's one of the players named in Grimsley's affidavit (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2489724), though he claims he has a legal prescription for the HGH...
getting to close to the action
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3mcmIcNSKA&mode=related&search=
The Braves are 3-17 in their last 20 since sweeping the Cubs at Wrigley and they have last place all to themselves...
It's finally over. Still, Chip Carey talks down to other teams because they didn't choke in the playoffs every year except for one.
Griffey Jr. tied Mike Schmidt on the all-time HR list tonight
Quote from: BigEd76 on June 19, 2006, 09:23:27 PM
Griffey Jr. tied Mike Schmidt on the all-time HR list tonight
In a perfect world, he'd be chasing Aaron right about now.
Congrats, Griff.
Loved Junior back in the day before he became a grumpy old bitch.
Quite possibly has the sweetest swing ever.
(http://www.bustedtees.com/images/jesushatestheyankees.549.product_featured.jpg)
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on June 19, 2006, 10:11:25 PM
Loved Junior back in the day before he became a grumpy old bitch.
Quite possibly has the sweetest swing ever.
I have many of his rookie and 2nd year cards, including the famous Upper Deck #1. I wonder how much some of these are worth now that his career's been a "disappointment".
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2491902
I know that this is an independent investigation now, but Congress has had hearings on steroids in baseball and now a former Senator is heading up the investigation. Can anyone explain to me why congress would have any interest whatsoever in this topic? Is the state of Major League Baseball a serious concern for our elected officials? What the farg?
i thought the same thing...15 months ago when the hearing happened.
Quote from: FFatPatt on June 20, 2006, 07:41:01 AMI have many of his rookie and 2nd year cards, including the famous Upper Deck #1. I wonder how much some of these are worth now that his career's been a "disappointment".
Don't remember off the top of my head, but I think the Upper Deck one is around $50 now. The Fleer, Topps and Donruss ones are less than $10...
anyone see cabrera rock that intentional walk pitch for an rbi last night? that was hot.
Kelly Leak yo
Bonds hit #719 today. He almost sat out today's game because he stole a base last night... :-D
check out this crazy manager from yesterday. we need more like him.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4tBFSrm3yFE
think he'll be suspended?
apparently after he left the game, he piled up some water coolers in front of the umpires locker room so they couldnt get in. which is awesome.
Tampa Bay - LA deal is done;
LA trades: Dioner Navarro and Jae Seo and the famous PTBNL
TB trades: Mark Hendrickson and Toby Hall
FYI - Hendrickson is the guy who the Sixers drafted.
brain aneurysm for Peter Gammons (http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/news/story?id=2502295)
Damn. That sucks.
However, the guy was a singer?
QuoteMore recently, Gammons has dabbled in music and next week is scheduled to release his first CD, "Never Slow Down, Never Grow Old.
I mean, come on. Can you imagine him singing?
Quote from: FFatPatt on June 27, 2006, 09:20:08 PM
brain aneurysm for Peter Gammons (http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/news/story?id=2502295)
Doesn't this belong in the Good Riddance thread?
Not until he dies.
was just looking around at the early games and noticed joe mauer is 1-1 today and now 10 for his last 11
and overall is hitting .391
dook is a machine
Isn't he like a QB or something too?
i think baseball tonite said yhe won states in both sports same year
he went 2-3 today...finished the 3 game series 12-14
you know the phillies arent paying anyone out of their hearts...but the padres are (http://www.signonsandiego.com/sports/sullivan/20060628-9999-1s28sullivan.html)
reading the article makes me hate the phils even more.
great stuff
The Phillies still pay plenty of charity cases. Most notably David Bell.
Quote from: FFatPatt on June 28, 2006, 04:37:51 PM
The Phillies still pay plenty of charity cases. Most notably David Bell.
The number of charity cases on the Phils' 25 man roster outweighs the guys who are pulling their weight by about a 4 to 1 margin.
So, in conclusion, they might as well pay some cripples too.
NL
1B = Pujols, Garciaparra, Howard
2B = Utley
SS = Reyes
3B = Wright, Cabrera
OF = Bay, Beltran, Soriano, A.Jones, Holliday, Berkman
C = Lo Duca
SP = Webb, Zambrano, Arroyo, Penny, Capuano, P.Martinez, Glavine, Schmidt
RP = Turnbow, Gordon, Hoffman
AL
1B = Ortiz, Thome
2B = Cano
SS = Jeter, Tejada
3B = Rodriguez
OF = Ramirez, Ichiro, Guerrero, Wells, Sizemore
C = Varitek, Mauer
SP = Schilling, Rogers, Santana, Mussina, Kazmir, Halladay
RP = Papelbon, Nathan, Rivera, Ryan
Not a complete list, but those are 99% confirmed because of a leak on MLB.com 8)
Who cares.
Official rosters:
NL
1B = Pujols, Howard, Berkman
2B = Utley, Uggla
SS = Reyes, Renteria
3B = Wright, Cabrera, F.Sanchez, Rolen
OF = Soriano, Beltran, Bay, A.Jones, Holliday, C.Lee
C = Lo Duca, McCann
SP = Webb, Zambrano, Arroyo, Penny, P.Martinez, Glavine, Carpenter, Schmidt
RP = Fuentes, Turnbow, Gordon, Hoffman
32nd vote = Abreu, Garciaparra, Wagner, Capuano, Chris Young
AL
1B = Ortiz, Thome, Konerko
2B = Loretta, J.Lopez
SS = Jeter, Tejada, M.Young
3B = A.Rodriguez, Glaus
OF = Ramirez, Ichiro, Guerrero, Dye, Sizemore, Matthews Jr, Wells
C = I.Rodriguez, Mauer
SP = Buehrle, Contreras, Rogers, Redman, Santana, Zito, Kazmir, Halladay
RP = Papelbon, Jenks, Rivera, Ryan
32nd vote = Hafner, Pierzynski, F.Liriano, Verlander, R.Hernandez
Injured, will not play = Cano, A.Rios
Who cares.
I can't argue with too many of these choices. Glad to see some new names on the list.
Notable names missing:
Schilling, Mussina, Griffey Jr, Bonds, Piazza, Beckett
Is that Mark Redman on the AL Team? The 5-4, 5.59 ERA Redman?
Just found one to argue with. That's just nuts. Is he the best way to get a Royal on the roster? Couldn't they just let KC send one to the AAA game?
Schilling or Mussina should be there instead.
Kasmir is the lone Devil Ray, but you can argue for him (9-5, 3.59), but it's ridiculous that Redman is on the team. He should come up with some "injury" to avoid the shame of it all.
And, dang, you could really pick ANY of the five AL final guys.
The rule that states that each team must have a representative is archaic and stupid.
That said, I think it's funny that Redman made the team because of it. He could very well be the worst All-Star in history.
Mike Williams would be my second choice.
Yankees and Red Sox buy more teenage Latinos, Phillies nowhere to be found (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2508432)
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/recap?gameId=260704105
:-D
Reds pitcher Brian Shackelford arrested for sexual assault. (http://www.usatoday.com/sports/baseball/nl/reds/2006-07-06-shackelford-arrested_x.htm?csp=34)
Reds traded for Eddie Guardado
Quote from: BigEd76 on July 06, 2006, 06:14:35 PM
Reds traded for Eddie Guardado
Always liked Everyday Eddie. One of the nicest athletes I've had the privilege to meet.
So he was courteous and gave the reach-around without you even asking?
some best/worst lists since the 05 all-star break
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/si_blogs/mlb/chatter_up/2006/2006/07/from-break-to-break.html
QuoteLast year's HR Derby Champ, Bobby Abreu, has hit only 14 home runs in 548 at-bats since. He's on-base ability still makes him a outstanding run producer, but the Phillies aren't paying him to walk.
Well, they actually are, apparently.
ha...Kenny Rogers and BRAD PENNY are the All-Star starters
i can already hear berman calling the home run derby tonight and its giving me a headache.
Quote from: phattymatty on July 10, 2006, 05:27:08 PM
i can already hear berman calling the home run derby tonight and its giving me a headache.
I think that one made it all the way to Cincinnati!
SPLASHBAMO!
yep, and he'll be able to pull out some obscure western PA city names to sound smart, like latrobe, sewickly, moon, etc.
i hate berman.
yeah, but if the "leather" story is true, he rules.
you're with me, leather
eggsactly
Berman gets some brownie points if he says, "That one's going all the way to Beaver Stadium!" (or something similar)
Quote from: phattymatty on July 10, 2006, 05:44:42 PM
yep, and he'll be able to pull out some obscure western PA city names to sound smart, like latrobe, sewickly, moon, etc.
i hate berman.
:-D
just heard that. i rule.
I'm watching on DVR, and on Ortiz' final homer in the 2nd round, Berman said, "INTO ALTOONA!"
Awful.
Howard hits the "500 free flights" sign on his winning shot! He had some monster shots tonight. While he was walking around afterward he said "that'll give philly something to cheer about, for now" :-D He must not of heard the eagles signed Bloom today.
Howard is awsome. He had some real shots- and a lot of them in the 2nd and final rounds, when everyone else was lucky to hit wallscrapers.
(http://espn-att.starwave.com/photo/2006/0710/mlb_howard_412.jpg)
These commercials never stop. Will this game ever start? :boom
I'm going to go ahead and not watch this year.
Guerrero with a solo shot in the top of the 2nd. 1-0 AL.
Wrigt does it again. Tie game. :yay
Beltran scores on a wild pitch. Am I the only one watching this?
Yes. Baseball is more boring than soccer.
3 outs away from the pathetic NL winning home field advantage...
1 strike away and Michael Young hits a 2-run triple :-D
Howard grounds out to 1st in his only AB. AL wins again, 3-2. whatever
That really sucked. 3-2 AL.
Rosenthal is reporting that Aubrey Huff is headed to the Astros for two AA players
The Cincinnati Reds today acquired from the Washington Nationals RHP Gary Majewski, LHP Bill Bray, SS Royce Clayton, IF Brendan Harris and RHP Daryl Thompson in exchange for OF Austin Kearns, SS Felipe Lopez and RHP Ryan Wagner.
wow, that's kinda a big trade. why would Cincinatti do that deal when they are in contention for a wildcard or division spot?
Obviously because Royce Clayton is the next Barry Larkin.
bullpen help
maybe we can get Bray from Cincinnati for Rhodes... >:D
Washington wins in that deal.
They get Lopez and Kearns?
Bowden raped his old squad.
Cards signed Jeff Weaver
Then they released Sidney Ponson
Yankees have signed Ponson
best and worst bargains in baseball (http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=darcy/060713)
A-Rod had 3 errors and struck out with the bases loaded again and got booed off the field. He was replaced in the 8th inning after "a foul ball off his foot"...
Speaking of New York, I really think Abreu would do well there.
I mean, just look at how the fans treat the reigning AL MVP!
Braves got Bob Wickman from Cleveland
http://www.tsn.ca/news_story.asp?ID=171783&hubName=main
Supposedly the White Sox are close to acquiring Soriano from Washington and Mike MacDougal from KC. Brandon McCarthy (top pitching prospect) would be going to the Nats in that deal...
this sucks....
ESPN FIRES REYNOLDS
By ANDREW MARCHAND
July 25, 2006 -- ESPN yesterday fired analyst Harold Reynolds from Baseball Tonight, sources told The Post. The reason was not immediately known.
"We are not going to comment," ESPN VP Josh Krulewitz said.
When asked how they are going to explain that Reynolds will never be on the air again, Krulewitz still declined comment.
Reynolds did not return calls.
Reynolds, 45, had been with ESPN 11 years. He had been a fixture on the show, which is a gathering spot for baseball fans, players and team executives.
The program already is dealing with the loss of information man Peter Gammons. Gammons is recovering from a brain aneurysm that occurred at the end of last month. The show's main analysts had been Reynolds, Gammons and John Kruk.
In Gammons' absence, ex-Met GM Steve Phillips has played a bigger role on the show. The program uses several analysts, including Orel Hershiser, Tino Martinez and Jeff Brantley.
Last night, host Karl Ravech was joined by Kruk and Phillips. Reynolds usually is on Monday nights.
Reynolds was known for a smooth style that usually was player friendly. He never found himself in too much controversy for what he said on the air. In fact, ESPN was so high on him he was expected to stay with the network through its just signed eight-year deal with MLB.
Now, after yesterday, Reynolds is no longer welcome in Bristol.
wonder if he was making fun of Bruschi.....im mean Gammons
I think it was because he's black and 'smooth'. White people hate that, and white people love baseball.
This is clearly an issue of marketing and racism. Clearly.
that does suck, IGY. Reynolds was great. Wonder what the hell he did to get canned.
im goin with sexual harrassment
must have been somthing major, he was the only good part about baseball tonight
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 25, 2006, 09:16:33 AM
im goin with sexual harrassment
you're probably right, here are some secondhand accounts from people close to espn
QuoteThirdhand info, but I'm told it's sexual harassment. There were allegations of inappropriate actions between him and female PAs on a couple different occasions, so I'm not entirely shocked.
• It's apparently sexual harassment, but no one knows who the victim was. It went down over the course of the weekend.
• I have on good authority that HR was fired for all things, hitting on girls. Allegedly, this has been going on for a while. The last straw was when a new PA was having none of what Harold had to offer and turned him in.
• Harold Reynolds was fired more or less for copious amounts of sexual harassment. Apparently, he brazenly hits on female employees constantly, despite the fact that his wife just had a kid six months ago. He was warned by the big-wigs on numerous occasions to cool it with the ladies, but someone finally lodged a complaint, and he was canned immediately.
• It's very difficult to get fired from ESPN. It takes multiple offenses ... they're usually so worried about getting sued for unlawful termination that people are suspended multiple times for the same repeated behavior before it finally comes to getting fired. Within the walls of the campus, there are only a few on-air talent guys that had an honest reputation as being overly friendly with the ladies, and HR was one of them.
Quote
• Harold Reynolds was fired more or less for copious amounts of sexual harassment. Apparently, he brazenly hits on female employees constantly, despite due to the fact that his wife just had a kid six months ago. He was warned by the big-wigs on numerous occasions to cool it with the ladies, but someone finally lodged a complaint, and he was canned immediately.
Someone on the deadspin messageboard says that Harold was even flirting on the air with reporter Danyelle Sargent. Anyone else catch this? (pre-emptive finger to any board rat who wants to get cute with me... ::) )
I knew as soon as I heard about it this morning that it had something to do with him being a hornball.
mark prior was throwing a no-hitter in the sixth inning.
and then dusty baker pulled him.
man that guy sucks.
The Milwaukee Brewers are trading slugger Carlos Lee to the Texas Rangers as part of a multi-player deal, ESPN.com learned Friday.
The Brewers are sending Lee, minor-league outfield prospect Nelson Cruz and a player to be named later to the Rangers for relief pitcher Francisco Cordero and outfielders Kevin Mench and Laynce Nix.
Both teams are checking for any medical issues before consummating the deal.
Mench is from Newark Delaware, his nickname is SHREK
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 28, 2006, 11:13:15 AM
The Milwaukee Brewers are trading slugger Carlos Lee to the Texas Rangers as part of a multi-player deal, ESPN.com learned Friday.
The Brewers are sending Lee, minor-league outfield prospect Nelson Cruz and a player to be named later to the Rangers for relief pitcher Francisco Cordero and outfielders Kevin Mench and Laynce Nix.
Both teams are checking for any medical issues before consummating the deal.
Interesting deal. At one point, Nix was the top prospect in the Rangers' system. I believe he also was the Florida State League MVP when he played for the Charlotte farm team in 2002.
Of course, he has yet to do squat at the major league level. But he's got that dreaded word, potential.
Mench is a decent OF with power.
Cordero was an all-star closer a year (or was it two?) ago, but has fallen on hard times.
it all comes down to whether the rangers can resign lee
im guessing they already have spoken to him about it...if not come to an agreement already
Drives up the price for Abreu now. Supply and demand, bitch!
Something you never thought you'd see:
QuoteTomas Perez tied a major league record with four doubles, going 5-for-5 and leading the Tampa Bay Devil Rays to a 19-6 rout of Randy Johnson and the New York Yankees on Saturday.
I cannot believe that he is better than Abraham Nunez.
Trades so far:
Sean Casey to Detroit for minor league pitcher
Todd Walker to San Diego for minor league pitcher
Craig Wilson to NY Yankees for Shawn Chacon
Roberto Hernandez and Oliver Perez to NY Mets for Xavier Nady
Scott Linebrink to NY Mets for Oliver Perez and Heath Bell (San Diego pulled out of this one)
Ronnie Belliard to St. Louis for Hector Luna
Kyle Lohse to Cincinnati for minor league pitcher
Matt Stairs to Texas for minor league pitcher
Quote from: BigEd76 on July 31, 2006, 04:09:42 PM
Trades so far:
Sean Casey to Detroit for minor league pitcher
Todd Walker to San Diego for minor league pitcher
Craig Wilson to NY Yankees for Shawn Chacon
Roberto Hernandez and Oliver Perez to NY Mets for Xavier Nady
Scott Linebrink to NY Mets for Oliver Perez and Heath Bell
Ronnie Belliard to St. Louis for Hector Luna
Kyle Lohse to Cincinnati for minor league pitcher
Matt Stairs to Texas for minor league pitcher
i feel bad for those mets fans that bought an Oliver Perez jersey
Greg Maddux to the Dodgers for Cesar Izturis
Julio Lugo to the Dodgers for Joel Guzman and another prospect
Kip Wells to Texas for minor league pitcher
Jorge Sosa to St. Louis for minor league pitcher
Jeremy Affeldt and Denny Bautista to Colorado for Ryan Shealy and Scott Dohmann
Why in God's name would the Mets want Blowberto??
:-D
David Ortiz is not human
Quote from: BigEd76 on July 31, 2006, 10:30:16 PM
David Ortiz is not human
I said those exact words when he hit the game winner last night.
chris shelton, dude who was tearing it up like the mvp early in the year, got sent to the minors yesterday
Abreu's batting .000!
Crazy Vicente suspected of DWI (http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/spt/baseball/rangers/stories/080106dnspopadilla.1559bbe.html)
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 01, 2006, 08:55:54 PM
Crazy Vicente suspected of DWI (http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/spt/baseball/rangers/stories/080106dnspopadilla.1559bbe.html)
:o
Bobby walked and scored a run. Good for him.
ha. someone went a little crazy with the search and replace.
(http://www.deadspin.com/assets/resources/2006/08/afriacnamericanyankees.jpg)
I agree with Maddox that "African-American" is pretty much the most retahded term ever.
Lidle wins first start for Yankees (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/recap?gameId=260803110)
QuoteNEW YORK (AP) -- Cory Lidle pitched six effective innings in his first start with the Yankees and Jason Giambi hit a three-run homer to help New York beat the Toronto Blue Jays 8-1 Thursday for its fourth straight win.
Lidle allowed one run and four hits on a steamy afternoon at Yankee Stadium in his first outing since being acquired from the Phillies on Sunday. New York sent four minor league prospects to Philadelphia for Lidle and right fielder Bobby Abreu, who had three hits and is 5-for-13 in three games since joining his new club.
...
Barf.
Houston/San Diego wearing the special igy flava throwback butter joints
(http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20060803/capt.46befe88b5894c3ebeb362405d63a783.astros_padres_baseball_cacl103.jpg)
Quote from: BigEd76 on August 03, 2006, 05:14:21 PM
Houston/San Diego wearing the special igy flava throwback butter joints
(http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20060803/capt.46befe88b5894c3ebeb362405d63a783.astros_padres_baseball_cacl103.jpg)
:-D :yay
The old school Astros jerseys are so ugly and yet so classic.
Greg maddux was no-hitting Cincy through 6 in his LA debut.
LA leads 2-0 in the top of the 7th but they are in a rain delay.
Maddux is probably done because of the rain now.
Let's go LA.
If Cincy loses we're 3.5 out. :paranoid
some old school joe torre and ted turner stuff.
make sure you're speakers are down at work.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=5QUfHONo1rg&search=joe%20torre
QuoteWith Andruw Jones only days away from gaining trade veto power, the All-Star center fielder was claimed on waivers by an unnamed team, leaving the Braves until 1 p.m. ET Saturday to decide whether to take their last opportunity to deal Jones unfettered.
That Jones was placed on waivers is unremarkable; he was one of hundreds of players, including many stars, who were placed on waivers earlier this week. What makes Jones' situation interesting is that on Aug. 15, he will gain 10-and-5 rights -- 10 years in the big leagues, five with the same team -- to block any proposed trade.
Multiple teams placed claims on Jones, according to major-league sources. But on Thursday afternoon, one team was awarded a claim on Jones. Now the Braves have two choices -- either work out a trade with the team who placed the claim by Saturday or pull Jones back from waivers. If they pull him back, they cannot trade him again for the rest of this season.
Jones' value in the trade market is relatively high right now, because he is a highly productive player locked up for only one more year -- at $13.5 million -- at a time when players like Alfonso Soriano and Carlos Lee might command $70 million packages on the free-agent market.
The Boston Red Sox tried to deal for Jones leading up to the trade deadline, with some intent to try to flip him to the Houston Astros for Roy Oswalt. Some scouts also think that the Los Angeles Angels, who've been looking for a bat, might have high interest in Jones.
Atlanta GM John Schuerholz, reached on his cell phone, said Friday afternoon that he would not comment on the team's internal business.
From ESPN.com...
Andruw in LF for the Phils...be nice but not happening.
I bet Oswalt for Andruw and he goes to HOU>
Oswalt isnt on the block. Purpura isnt stupid enough to trade the only proven starting pitcher for next season.
He was pretty close to being dealt the other day had Angelos not refused to give up Tejada...
That was just a rumor though, hopefully it had no real base. If Purpura traded Oswalt I'd give up on the Astros like people have given up on the Sixers. I mean like the badasses that havent watched a Sixer game in over 3 years.
I dunno, man. I read the NY papers and they said it was all done except for Angelos meddling in at the final minute.
ESPN's Wild Card Standings Page... (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/standings?date=20060809&type=wild&br=5&year=2006&column=gamesBehind&order=false&st=2)
Please note the Kansas City Royals at the bottom of the A.L. standings... THEY STILL HAVE A CHANCE!!!111!!11
Quote from: BigEd76 on August 03, 2006, 05:14:21 PM
Houston/San Diego wearing the special igy flava throwback butter joints
(http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20060803/capt.46befe88b5894c3ebeb362405d63a783.astros_padres_baseball_cacl103.jpg)
Those jerseys are bad ass! :yay
Randy Johnson took a no-no into the 7th. ESPN was gettin lubed up to praise him and then he blew it. He lost the shutout too.
Bobby Abreu had his first NY HR tonight and played some CF after Damon went down.
Miguel Tejada gave the finger to the fans in Toronto today.
Ryan Franklin got the win for the Reds last night.
Ryan Freel is crazy.
QuoteRyan Freel said not even Farney believed that Freel made the stupendous diving catch on Albert Pujols Tuesday.
Farney? Who's Farney?
"He's a little guy who lives in my head who talks to me and I talk to him," said Freel, acting as if he finally crashed into too many walls, ran into too many catchers and dived into too many dugouts. "That little midget in my head said, 'That was a great catch, Ryan,' I said, 'Hey, Farney, I don't know if that was you who really caught that ball, but that was pretty good if it was.' Everybody thinks I talk to myself, so I tell 'em I'm talking to Farney.' "
See? Even baseball players themselves are bored with their lives. they create imaginary friends to keep them occupied while they're in the outfield standing still for innings on end.
Either that or the steriods help they're imaginations
Apparently, Paul LoDuca is in some gambling trouble. He has bookies coming to the stadium, during batting practice and looking and calling out for LoDuca because he owes money.
Also, when he was in Philly for the last series, he hopped in a limo that first night and headed to AC where he gambled all night long.
Tino Martinez cant talk.
This BBTN crew is just brutal.
They miss Harold Reynolds.
I'd let him sexually harass my sister if it meant getting rid of some of these morons.
It's weird that Reynolds got canned over hitting on chicks, but Irvin barely got a slap on the wrist for getting caught with drug paraphanalia. Double standards with regard to political correctness vs. law abound.
Don't you remember Irvin said it wasn't his. he was holding it for his friend. >:D ;)
Wow, the Yankees are good.
And Jeter is clutch.
Listen to this kid from the Staten Island team yesterday.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGKC-YBb06M&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fdeadspin%2Ecom%2F
The Yanks just polished off a 5-game sweep of the Red Sox in Fenway.
Stick a fork in the Sox.
As sad as this is, I'd rather see the Yankees win than the Sox. God, I hate Boston.
Yep, at this point, I agree. I'm sick of Boston winning shtein, and I'd rather they started to lose again.
Maybe Hillenbrand was right about Gibbons and the Blue Jays (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2556925)
6'8" 256 '13-year old' on Saudi Arabia (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14442115/)
(http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/msnbc/Components/Photos/060820/060820_Durley_vmed_3p.widec.jpg)
QuoteDhahran pitcher and outfielder Michael Knight is 6-foot-3, 190 pounds. Five-foot-8, 226-pound, third baseman Andrew Holden is a dangerous hitter, having homered twice in the series, including a three-run blast against Saipan.
slight snicker
(http://www.recoilmag.com/news/grfx/kitt_hated_hasselhoff_A_0704.jpg)
Roy Oswalt just signed a new contract extension....
Paying attention, Zito?
5 years, $73M, option for a 6th year, FNTC
2007 = $13M
2008 = $13M
2009 = $14M
2010 = $15M
2011 = $16M
2012 = N/A, $2M buyout
Quote from: BigEd76 on August 30, 2006, 12:36:21 AM
Roy Oswalt just signed a new contract extension....
Paying attention, Zito?
5 years, $73M, option for a 6th year, FNTC
2007 = $13M
2008 = $13M
2009 = $14M
2010 = $15M
2011 = $16M
2012 = N/A, $2M buyout
:yay
Apparently Red Sox rookie pitcher Jon Lester was diagnosed with lymphoma.
Probably from rolling around in all that toxic waste.
QuoteChicago Cubs C Michael Barrett (groin) could miss the remainder of the season, after having been hit in the groin with a foul tip, according to the Associated Press. He was placed on the 15-day disabled list, and in a best-case scenario, could miss between two and three weeks. Barrett was scheduled to be released from Northwestern Memorial Hospital, Sunday, Sept. 3, after having undergone surgery. The injury occured during the top of the fifth inning, Saturday, Sept. 2, when San Francisco Giants SP Matt Cain fouled a ball off. However, Barrett didn't leave the game until after his at-bat in the bottom of the inning. Barrett went to the emergency room, and an ultrasound showed bleeding inside his scrotum. Surgery took less than an hour, according to trainer Mark O'Neal
Ouch.
Ramon Ortiz hit a HR in the 8th inning then lost a no-hitter in the 9th inning. The MASN broadcaster screamed like a girl when Ortiz hit it...
Bobby Abreu is best Yankees acquisition since... David Justice? (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/columns/story?columnist=klapisch_bob&id=2573910)
Florida is winning again.
Anibal Sanchez is throwing a NO HITTER (I SAID NO HITTER) through 7.1 so far.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 06, 2006, 08:59:59 PM
Florida is winning again.
Anibal Sanchez is throwing a NO HITTER (I SAID NO HITTER) through 7.1 so far.
And guess who can't watch them, even though he only lives 1.5 hours away?
:boom Stupid FSN FLORIDA!
He gets a DP.
No-no through 8.
Due up for the Diamondbacks:
Conor Jackson
Luis Gonzalez
Eric Byrnes
He got it. No hitter!
Conor Jackson strikes out swinging - 1 out
Luis Gonzalez pops out to 3rd - 2 outs
Byrnes out too...
No hitter for Anibal Sanchez.
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
I hate Florida.
Better tonight than tomorrow though.
I always applaud a no-hitter.
Now the sonofaguns better lose the next six.
There was maybe 6 people in the stands there.
Florida has 4 no hitters and 2 world championships in 13 farging years.
I love Philadelphia!!
Yeah, but it rains in Florida all the time. It's always sunny in Philadelphia.
Quote from: EagleFeva on September 06, 2006, 09:34:04 PM
It's always sunny in Philadelphia.
The theme music is delightful as well.
Quote from: EagleFeva on September 06, 2006, 09:34:04 PM
Yeah, but it rains in Florida all the time. It's always sunny in Philadelphia.
Only until October. Unless there's another @#(*&(*@#&(&@#(*&@#(*& hurricane.
Red Sox releases Javy Lopez (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=ap-redsox-lopezreleased&prov=ap&type=lgns)
Abreu had 6 RBIs in the FIRST INNING tonight, 7 through 3 innings, and was close to more a few minutes ago...
Yep - he went to the fence with the bases loaded - would have put him at 11 for the night.
He would've done it if he stayed on the 'roids.
The Yankees ended their affiliation with the AAA Columbus Clippers, which means they'll likely take over the SWB Red Barons...
:crazy
OHMYGOD REGGIE BUSH
Quote from: BigEd76 on September 15, 2006, 01:24:12 PM
The Yankees ended their affiliation with the AAA Columbus Clippers, which means they'll likely take over the SWB Red Barons...
It's not a matter of if, but when, hunt will order his season tickets.
hah...you're damn skippy.
well, maybe not season tickets but i will attend a bunch of games...it's only 15-20 minutes from my house and tix are like $6 each.
Minor league baseball's fantastic.
Quote from: hunt on September 16, 2006, 09:20:00 AM
hah...you're damn skippy.
well, maybe not season tickets but i will attend a bunch of games...it's only 15-20 minutes from my house and tix are like $6 each.
So, you'll get to watch all the players the Yankees trade away for their high-priced talent.
Jesus christ, that Padres - Dodgers ending was ridiculous.
Quote from: Dillen37 on September 19, 2006, 06:02:50 PM
Jesus christ, that Padres - Dodgers ending was ridiculous.
I'm proud to say that I was there...and because of my incessant, irritating heckling, Hoffman gave served it up like I told him he would...that and I told him he would never be Eric Gagne.
Anyways, Go Dodgers! :=)
Quote from: hbionic on September 19, 2006, 08:09:57 PM
Quote from: Dillen37 on September 19, 2006, 06:02:50 PM
Jesus christ, that Padres - Dodgers ending was ridiculous.
I'm proud to say that I was there...and because of my incessant, irritating heckling, Hoffman gave served it up like I told him he would...that and I told him he would never be Eric Gagne.
Anyways, Go Dodgers! :=)
Correct. Trevor Hoffman will never be a three-year wonder who blows out his arm.
:-D
Halladay's hurt again. (http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/5954370?CMP=OTC-K9B140813162&ATT=49)
It's like Bill Murray in Groundhog Day. (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060921/ap_on_sp_ba_ga_su/bba_yankees_blue_jays)
Official: Yankees AAA to Scranton/Wilkes-Barre (http://sports.espn.go.com/minorlbb/news/story?id=2597204)
The Diamondbacks (http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b394/vinsanity59/AD2007.jpg) and Reds (http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b394/vinsanity59/CR2007.jpg) changes for 2007 were leaked...
Gayer and Gay
Nice moustache on the Reds guy. :-D
What's different in the Reds' logos?
Old one:
(http://www.crwflags.com/art/pins/sports/mlb/teamsnl/redsold.jpg)
Like Phreak said, his moustache returned...
The Tigers clinched a playoff spot today and took 1st place in the AL again as the Yankees lost 2 out of 3 at Tampa Bay
More importantly, the Red Sox won't make the playoffs. farg Boston.
Feels so good to say this:
With the Phils win and Braves loss, the Atlanta Braves have been eliminated from playoff contention... :yay
Trevor Hoffman just broke Lee Smith's save record with #479.
Nomar just hit a walkoff grand slam in the bottom of the 9th :boom :boom :boom :boom :boom :boom :boom
Phils still .5 up
Tigers clinch a playoff spot, White Sox done in the division, magic number at 2 in the WC.
San Fran and Florida's magic numbers are at 1. Cinci 2 and Houston 3. Could be offically a 2 team race by tuesday.
Quote from: BigEd76 on September 24, 2006, 06:17:46 PM
Feels so good to say this:
With the Phils win and Braves loss, the Atlanta Braves have been eliminated from playoff contention... :yay
... and they did it in the grand fashion of blowing a 7-0 lead in the 8th inning. :-D
QuoteBaltimore's Jay Gibbons pulled off an unimaginable feat: He hit a foul ball that injured his wife.
The scene occurred in the ninth inning of the Orioles' game against Minnesota on Saturday at Camden Yards. Gibbons fouled a ball straight back over the screen and into the rib cage of his wife, Laura.
"She's just a little bruised up. She's going to be OK," Gibbons said yesterday.
Gibbons said he had asked team officials to do something about making it safer to sit in the seats behind the plate. He contended that the 20-foot screen does not offer enough protection from hard-hit foul balls.
Wife beater!
That rules.
Feel-good story of the year.
Not as good as Rich Asburn hitting someone with a foul ball, then hitting them again when they were being taken off in a stetcher.
I used to work stadium cameras for the Reds. I was in the 3rd base dugout for a game against the Astros. Craig Biggio's up to bat and lines a HARD foul ball into the stands along the 1st baseline. I'm all the way across the field and hear a big smack. I shoot over that way and zoom in on this old lady... had to be about 65-70 years old... she took it right in the mouth. When I get the focus on the camera, she's already got blood pouring out of her nose and some guy is trying to catch it and tilt her head back. After a little bit, I can see that the guy's holding some of her teeth and by the time the emergency crew comes along with the wheelchair, her face and shirt is covered in crimson.
-- The White Sox were eliminated and the Twins are in the playoffs (again).
-- The Astros will be only 2.5 behind the Cardinals if that SD/STL score holds up...
Padres in the midst of a multiple run scoring inning....
Now lead the Cards 6-5 inthe 7th.
Still 6-1 in Colorado. >:(
Houston won, by the way. I think they'll be 1.5 out if STL loses now.
So STL is about to blow it. That would be a HUGE collapse. Huge.
11-1 Dodgers.
Phils 1 game out.
FARG< >:( >:( >:(
1964 Phils have company. Yay! We could win the award for no longer having the biggest regular season collapse in baseball history. When teams are in danger of choking, they'll bring up the 06 Cardinals!!
Clemens, Pettitte, Tejada, Brian Roberts and Jay Gibbons were revealed as names in Jason Grimsley's affidavit.
LA Times (http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-clemens1oct01,0,6499528.story?coll=la-home-headlines)
Explains a lot.
Clemens doesn't shock me. Not one bit.
Quote from: BigEd76 on October 01, 2006, 12:35:39 AM
Clemens, Pettitte, Tejada, Brian Roberts and Jay Gibbons were revealed as names in Jason Grimsley's affidavit.
LA Times (http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-clemens1oct01,0,6499528.story?coll=la-home-headlines)
Taking into account the story from earlier this week, I say Gibbons' wife had better enhance her chest to keep up with her husband's performance enhancement.
Wow. That was terrible.
Tigers choked at home this weekend and lost the division to the Twins after leading it for 99% of the year.
#1 Yankees vs WC Tigers
#2 Twins vs #3 Athletics
#1 Mets vs WC Dodgers
#2 Padres vs #3 Cardinals
Tues
1- a's at twins
4- cards at padres
8- tigers at yankees
Wed
1- a's at twins
4- dodgers at mets
8- tigers at yankees
Thur
4- cards at padres
8- dodgers at mets
Fri
4- tigers at a's
8- yankees at tigers
I'm not really excited at all.
Awesome. Twins are my second team. :yay
Go Twins.
'cause I like Torii Hunter
Why don't you visit him in the hospital when he seperates his shoulder for the 25th time?
I had the pleasure of seeing at least half the team play down here in minor leagues.
Morneau, Mauer, Hunter, Kubel, Cuddyer all played in Ft. Myers.
Their spring training is in Ft. Myers as well- by far the friendliest of all the spring training stops I've been to.
BTW - Nick Punto is the starter at 3B for the team. :paranoid
Quote from: MDS on October 01, 2006, 08:03:00 PM
Why don't you visit him in the hospital when he seperates his shoulder for the 25th time?
I will. And I'll take him nudie pics of your sister.
Nick Pooooooontang.
Another great trade by Ed Wade.
Nick Punto and Carlos Silva for one season of Eric Milton. Winnar.
Phreak do you kiss his boo boo's?
Quote from: MDS on October 01, 2006, 08:10:24 PM
Nick Punto and Carlos Silva for one season of Eric Milton. Winnar.
Phreak do you kiss his boo boo's?
Hunter > God.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 01, 2006, 08:00:30 PM
Go Twins.
'cause I like Torii Hunter
You and me both. I'm also rooting for the Tigers to knock off the Yanks.
The A's games are at 10am PT on a weekday. Good scheduling...
Sweet. Nobody will be able to watch those games.
Tampa Bay had a winning record at home this year and still managed to lose over 100 games. That's good stuff.
First time in MLB history, I think? Because of the Royals' surge, the Rays have the 1st pick in the draft again...
20-61 on the road. Yikes.
And yet they'll be participating in the postseason for the same amount of time as the Phillies.
We've been around for 100 more years than them, yet have only played in 10 more playoff series.
The Phils have a rich history of ineptitude that the other Philly teams are buying into.
Have been buying into. The Eagles joined after 1960, Sixers after 1983, and since hockey doesn't count, well, thats it.
Quote from: MDS on October 02, 2006, 03:55:04 PM
Have been buying into. The Eagles joined after 1960, Sixers after 1983, and since hockey doesn't count, well, thats it.
Lack of championships is one thing. I'm talking about decent teams and playoff teams. The Sixers were making the playoffs a lot but aren't going to bother with that for the next few years. The Flyers look to be going that direction. The Eagles had a nice run but laid an egg last year and have no guarantees to play in the postseason this year.
Anyway, this is about the rest of baseball... which, coincidentally, is better than the Phillies. Because they are a bunch of a suck-ass choking dogs that should all slit their own throats so we can start over. Except Howard. And I guess Utley. And Hamels. Maybe Victorino. But that's about it.
Burrell's pretty good.
Frank Robinson is done in Washington
Felipe Alou is done in San Francisco
Dusty Baker (and team president Andy MacPhail) are done in Chicago
Joe Girardi will be done in Florida as early as tomorrow
Texas is debating firing Buck Showalter
To the surprise of no one - Girardi was fired.
Also to the surprise of no one Fredi Gonzalez was hired to replace him....like 3 hours later.
What I wonder is if Fredi was outside honking his horn so Girardi would get the hell out of his parking space?
Girardi will probably replace Dusty in CHI - once again to the surprise of no one.
jeter is good.
So is Bobby A.
he's mr. clutch.
Texas fired Showalter today
Maybe they can hire Charlie Manuel away from us.
Padres lose both games at home and score 1 run total.
Tigers beat the Yankees 4-3 to split the series 1-1
Since it looks like the A's are actually playing baseball in October and are on the verge of knocking the Twins out........Go Tigers!
I was rooting for the Twins. I still hope they win since OAK is known to blow series'.
But I'll root for the Tigers too.
Oh Torri Hunter, your misplay on defense gets me so hot....
A's finish sweep. Twins played poorly, A's played well. Simple as that.
Tigers just went up 3-0 in the bottom of the 2nd.
It's funny how a team as hyped as the Twins throughout the wildcard/AL Central chase is just out like that.
Quote from: FFatPatt on October 06, 2006, 08:55:18 PM
It's funny how a team as hyped as the Twins throughout the wildcard/AL Central chase is just out like that.
They really fell apart. They made miscue after miscue - totally opposite of their usual sound fundamentals.
Most believe that Brad Radke is retiring. It would be interesting to see what they try to do with that money that's freed up.
A's vs Tigers ALCS???
It's a step closer considering it's 6-0 Tigers in the bottom of the 7th and the Yanks can barely even touch Rogers right now. :yay
I love it when the Yankees spend $250 million and only 4 more games than the Phillies.
ex-Negro Leaguer Buck O'Neil dead @ 94 (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2615960)
Its a crying shame that he is not in the HOF.
A-Rod batting 8th and Giambi not in the lineup. The Yankees' final game is on FOX right now...
It's pretty farged up when you have a $200 million pay roll and you're relying on Jared Wright to save your season. :-D
Quote from: EagleFeva on October 07, 2006, 04:21:45 PM
It's pretty farged up when you have a $200 million pay roll and you're relying on Jared Wright to save your season. :-D
And he's doing so well the Yankees are already behind 3-0.
Life is good.
:yay
Abreu has seen 3 pitches in his 2 ABs today.
5-0 Tigers, 5th inning, still hitting Lidle around
Bonderman hasn't allowed anything.
Make that 6-0.
Runners on 2nd and 3rd... no outs. :yay
Looks like someone wants to go eat ice cream in the clubhouse.
watching the Yankees get dismantled is fun, add beer and it's a full on party
And seeing Cory Lidle implode in the playoffs makes it even better. 8)
8-0 after 6
Yanks are down to their last 6 outs... need to make up 7 runs.
8-1 Tigers, top 8.
Yankees simply didn't have the hitting to win a series like this.
Get ARod
Tigers win 8-3 and spray down the fans with champagne...
2nd straight year they are out in the first round. Haven't won a world series since what, the Clinton Administration. :-D
OK, Mr. Reagan ;)
i'm glad they lost...this team was lousy.
hopefully they realize that they need young pitching to win.
out: sheff, torre, a-rod, big unit.
We will take that bum Arod off of your hands.
only if you have young pitching to give up in return. ;)...i'm thinking somebody like dontrelle willis would be perfect.
It was great to see the Yankees lose. I only got to catch the last inning, since I was watching so much football. Get A-Rod! :D
Gavin Floyd for ARod.
Make it happen.
a-rod would actually do well on a team like the phils where he wouldn't have to worry about playoff pressure. ;D
He would also be part of the best infield in baseball.
maybe...but the yanks showed that you need pitching to win it all.
how about Detroit...
man, if only the Phils would've had the opportunity to get a manager like Leyland...
Quote from: hunt on October 07, 2006, 08:51:58 PM
maybe...but the yanks showed that you need pitching to win it all.
Brett Myers and Cole Hamels say hi.
Quote from: SunMo on October 07, 2006, 08:54:22 PM
how about Detroit...
man, if only the Phils would've had the opportunity to get a manager like Leyland...
They would be slightly less frustrating but would still miss the playoffs.
besides the obvious superiority in managerial strategy, all i've been reading the past week is how Leyland has made his players believe they can win, i can't help but think they would've gotten 5 more wins this season with him as the manager
I just dont think this team is that good no matter who is managing. I dont think a manager has that much effect on a team over the entire season.
He stepped into a very nice situation, a team with a nice mix of veterans and young players who were coming into their own. They even shtein the bed in the last month with a six game lead over the Twins.
If the Mets hold on to beat the Dodgers, then Fox gets to put the very sexy Padres-Cardinals series in primetime right after TO Bowl.
Reports that Steinbrenner will fire Torre and hire Lou Pinella.
Lou was holding out hope that Charles would be fired so he could come here, but I guess he might accept taking a step down and managing the Yankees.
Ha. Imagine Lou's reaction when Bobby lazily coasts for a ball in the corner. Should be fun.
Quote from: mpmcgraw on October 07, 2006, 08:31:13 PM
We will take that bum Arod off of your hands.
No way.
ESPN reporting per the NY Daily news that Joe Torre will be fired (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2617224)
QuoteAccording to the New York Daily News, however, the popular Yankees manager will be fired unless he decides to resign first to save face. Sources told the newspaper that former Yankees player and manager Lou Piniella will be owner George Steinbrenner's choice to replace Torre
(http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20061008/capt.802e093711014ddf9e16a157af91cfad.yankees_tigers_baseball_mips126.jpg)
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 08, 2006, 04:50:07 AM
Quote from: mpmcgraw on October 07, 2006, 08:31:13 PM
We will take that bum Arod off of your hands.
No way.
:-D Are you serious? If the Yankees ate some of his salary on top of what Texas is eating you still wouldnt trade for him?
He is having an off year, but is still one of the best players in the game.
Quote from: mpmcgraw on October 08, 2006, 03:39:44 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 08, 2006, 04:50:07 AM
Quote from: mpmcgraw on October 07, 2006, 08:31:13 PM
We will take that bum Arod off of your hands.
No way.
:-D Are you serious? If the Yankees ate some of his salary on top of what Texas is eating you still wouldnt trade for him?
He is having an off year, but is still one of the best players in the game.
As a heart attack.
He's a fargin bum.
Yet, you want Torii Hunter and his bi-monthly DL stints? ARod, for the right price, would be terrific. Who cares if he chokes in the playoffs, I just want to get there.
Quote from: MDS on October 08, 2006, 08:01:17 PM
Yet, you want Torii Hunter and his bi-monthly DL stints? ARod, for the right price, would be terrific. Who cares if he chokes in the playoffs, I just want to get there.
I suggest death for you.
MDS 1
Phreak 0
Rolen's out of the lineup tonight. Apparently he finally admitted to LaRussa that his shoulder hurts too much to play.
As if the .010 or whatever he hit in the 2nd half wasn't enough to tell LaRussa that.
Quote"I am deeply disappointed at our being eliminated so early in the playoffs. This result is absolutely not acceptable to me nor to our great and loyal Yankee fans. I want to congratulate the Detroit Tigers organization and wish them well. Rest assured, we will go back to work immediately and try to right this sad failure and provide a championship for the Yankees, as is our goal every year."
The Boss speaks. And that rumor about Torre being canned for Sweet Lou has been bumped to a report. Both he and Gay Rod were absent from clean up day today at the Stadium. Awsome.
The Cardinals knocked the Padres out.
Cardinals/Mets
Tigers/Athletics
fun
Just announced, Torre will be back as Yankees manager.
So he'll stay and they'll unload the bums like ARod.
I wonder where that nancy will end up?
Boston?
Anaheim?
Toledo Mudhens?
I hope Gillick doesn't get crazy. He had that loser in SEA. Just say no to that fraud.
Say what you want, but I'd be thrilled to get ARod. Especially if there was a chance the Yanks would take Burrell and some young prospects off our hands for him. He's still one of the most talented hitters in the game.
I just don't like that dude. He's a chump.
What I do wonder though is whether he'd waive his FNTC and play 3B somewhere else. He only did that in NY because of Jeter. Would he want to go back to playing SS? I hope so. Don't want him here.
Even though, Buster Olney said this on M&M the other day, that he "only" has $64M remaining on his deal he'd be fairly cheap when you look at what the other top guys are going to want.
Olney said that Soriano is going to ask for $80M+
Carlos Lee will want $80M+ too.
That's fargin nutzo.
I want a LF who can bat 5th.
Manny Ramirez, bitches.
So you guys don't like ARod because he chokes in the postseason? Well he wouldn't have to worry about that if the Phillies signed him, would he?
D-
and trade Rowand
if they can something for him, sure why not. thing is, nobody wants a mediocre hitting outfielder who arbitralaly runs into walls and second baseman in order to proove how tough he is and gets injured in the process.
Bobby Bonds. Dig 'im up!
I just want Pattycakes gone. MDS should go set his house on fire with a note saying he should waive his NTC or else he gets the gas next.
Where is he going to put the note if he burns the house down?
Burn it into the front yard.
Or whisper it in his ear when hes with him.
BTW Torii Hunter's option was picked up. He'll be on the Twins DL instead of ours. For shame.
I'll weep myself to sleep tonight in my #48 Hunter jersey.
ARod's plane overruns the runway in CA (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2624447)
Looks like Piniella will manage the Cubs
Looks like they'll still be zesty.
More Piniella news: Steve Lyons made comments about Piniella's Spanish on the air yesterday and it got him fired (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/playoffs2006/news/story?id=2625500)
He sucked. Good.
Tigers sweep Oakland.
Placido Polanco is named ALCS MVP.
Quote from: BigEd76 on October 14, 2006, 04:07:51 PM
More Piniella news: Steve Lyons made comments about Piniella's Spanish on the air yesterday and it got him fired (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/playoffs2006/news/story?id=2625500)
Weak.
PC fargers. :boo
Alright, Billy Bob. Easy with the confederate colors there.
Yeah right. Seriously - when I heard he was canned today I figured it was pretty bad. After reading that? Weak.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 15, 2006, 02:39:03 AM
Yeah right. Seriously - when I heard he was canned today I figured it was pretty bad. After reading that? Weak.
Definately. Dude blew ass as a commentator and that never warranted his firing but this does? Apparently it's ok to suck at your job as long as you don't offend anyone.
And I never heard about this happening but I think it's hilarious.
QuoteEarlier in the playoffs, while working the Mets-Dodgers NLDS, Lyons unwittingly made fun of a nearly blind fan who was wearing special glasses to see the game.
"He's got a digital camera stuck to his face," Lyons said.
(per ESPN) Lou Piniella will be named new Cubs manager - 3 year deal.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on October 16, 2006, 03:02:30 PM
(per ESPN) Lou Piniella will be named new Cubs manager - 3 year deal.
That should be just long enough to kill him.
A's fired Ken Macha
Why?
No idea other than Billy Beane is an idiot.
Apparently a lack of communication with his players and callousness toward injured players.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 16, 2006, 06:17:48 PM
No idea other than Billy Beane is an idiot.
:-D
Sabre stats bad!
Scott Rolen is a bitch.
and he is injured a lot.
Quote from: mpmcgraw on October 16, 2006, 06:24:35 PM
Apparently a lack of communication with his players and callousness toward injured players.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 16, 2006, 06:17:48 PM
No idea other than Billy Beane is an idiot.
:-D
Sabre stats bad!
Do you bow at the altar of Beane?
Yes.
and MDS luvs him sum Bill James.
My allegiance is to Ed Wade, son.
I've met Ed Wade's son.
Wade's daughter is pretty hot. You care.
QuoteUribe and his brother/bodyguard are suspected of shooting and wounding a Dominican farmer and a captain in the Italian Navy with a pistol and a shotgun when the pair walked too close to Uribe's jeep around midnight Friday, authorities said. Both men were taken to the hospital and later released. According to his agent, Uribe has denied any involvement in the shooting. Oct. 16 - 8:02 pm et
Uribe must be boys with Urbina.
St. Loser won tonight. God Rolen hit a HR.
That dooshy pitcher STL had pitching actually irons the bill of his cap. Idiot.
Still think the Tigers win.
I hate Buck & McCarver
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 22, 2006, 01:21:54 AM
That dooshy pitcher STL had pitching actually irons the bill of his cap. Idiot.
Idiot or not, I'll take that win! ;)
This lifelong fan of the Redbirds still can't believe they've gotten this far, and are hanging so tough in the post-season, after the terrible second half of the season that included the near fatal collapse in September. :o
They still have to win three more, and I don't for a moment believe it will be as easy as last night's win.....
Well, there are two sports-related events I've been waiting for to occur - the Eagles winning a Super Bowl and, since 1982, the Cards winning a 10th World Series, which would make them the only team other than the Yankees to reach double figures in that category. Would also be nice to get revenge on the Tigers for 1968 and Mickey farging Lolich!
GO REDBIRDS!!
You're rooting for your 10th WS...
We're rooting for our 2nd...which only can come when you make the playoffs more frequently than once every 14 years. :-\
If you guys didn't have Rolen and Edmonds I'd be able to enjoy the Cards a bit more. I just can't stand those two guys.
But this is going to be a good Series. The last two years were sweeps. I wanna see this one go 7 games and be great and dramatic.
Todd Jones is trying to blown another great game by Kenny Rogers.
3-1 now.
The 8th started with the Cards only having 1 hit and 0 runs.
bases loaded grounder to SS ends it....
The Cameraman Beater has thrown something like 22 consecutive scoreless innings in the playoffs. What is this guy thinking? Everyone knows that pitching isn't supposed to step up in big games. He's really thumbing his nose at the Phillies pitching staff with his performances so far and making them look bad.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on October 22, 2006, 11:32:37 PM
The Cameraman Beater has thrown something like 22 consecutive scoreless innings in the playoffs. What is this guy thinking? Everyone knows that pitching isn't supposed to step up in big games. He's really thumbing his nose at the Phillies pitching staff with his performances so far and making them look bad.
(http://espn-ak.starwave.com/photo/2006/1023/mlb_rogers_hands_412.jpg)
dirt? riiiiight. ::)
Looks like he didn't wipe properly
Kudos to the media for trying to find something to make this WS worth watching.
I'm still not going to watch. And every time I see one of those damn Tommy Lasorda commercials, I'm going to reach out to one friend or family member and make sure they're not watching either. Just doing my part.
tonight was rained out. push the next two games back a day...
Quote from: BigEd76 on October 25, 2006, 10:54:03 PM
tonight was rained out.
What was rained out? I thought the season was over, and the Mets are uber-champions?
Cardinals win 5-4 and take a 3-1 series lead.
A reminder that they finished the regular season with a worse record than the Phillies and barely avoided one of the biggest choke jobs in MLB history... :-\
The Detroit pitchers are worse fielders than the Phillies group of slobs.
4 goddamn errors on them this series! Four!
Let's go Detroit...pull a Red Sox - Yanks ALCS on dat ass.
Giants hired Bruce Bochy.
The Padres are dumber than shtein to let him go.
Looks like it's pretty much over for the Tigers. I wonder if this is going to be a "93 Phils" kind of team that's only able to put it together for one magical year but still fall short in the end. And then go back to sucking for the next decade or two.
Quote from: BigEd76 on October 27, 2006, 12:08:59 AM
A reminder that they finished the regular season with a worse record than the Phillies and barely avoided one of the biggest choke jobs in MLB history... :-\
I haven't forgotten, and am still pinching myself over the improbability of where the Redbirds are at this point. But they are getting it done when they have to.....just one more! :deion
And Phreak, I'm taking nothing for granted, the Cards have historically done poorly when up by 3 games to 1 in the post-season (trust me, I remember every excrutiating collapse :-\ ). But I'm hoping that last night was the back breaker, and Jeff Weaver can finish 'em off tonight! ;)
http://philadelphia.phillies.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/wrap.jsp?ymd=20060403&content_id=1381512&vkey=wrapup2005&fext=.jsp&team=home
the yanks picked up sheffield's option so he can't become a free agent....they know he'd sign with the muts or red sox & that's the last thing they wanted.
so, he's already causing a stink but there's not much he can do....the yanks are obviously looking to trade him...probably to a NL team other than the muts.
Some rumors that Gillick would be interested in putting him in RF and hitting him 5th,...
No thanks.
why not?
he's a great hitter & would be perfect hitting behind howard...sheff is a fleshpop but he always played hard for the yanks & he plays with intensity. he'd be great for the phils....until his contract year. :-D
hes an injury waiting to happen and hes 104....no good
God I hate the Cardinals
Yay for the Cardinals. I wanted them to win. Actually I wanted Detroit to lose more than I wanted the Cards to win. Those bandwagon jumpers up in Detroit don't deserve a championship, let alone watch them burn things after they win it. farg Detroit. :-D
Pujols and Scotty deserve it. :yay
Okay gang, indulge me this one.... ;)
How sweet it is!! :crazy
1926....
1931....
1934....
1942....
1944....
1946....
1964....
1967....
1982....
2006
World Champion St. Louis Cardinals!
Wish you were here to share it with, Dad :'(
Okay Eagles, it's your turn!
Scott Rolen go bang bang in man anus
Quote from: Fan_Since_64 on October 28, 2006, 12:36:08 AM
Okay gang, indulge me this one.... ;)
How sweet it is!! :crazy
1926....
1931....
1934....
1942....
1944....
1946....
1964....
1967....
1982....
2006
World Champion St. Louis Cardinals!
Wish you were here to share it with, Dad :'(
Okay Eagles, it's your turn!
Phillies:
1980
:'( :'(
BOOO....
We are so tortured as philly fans.
More like:
Every other year: :'( :'(
1980: :boom :-\ :paranoid ??? :crazy
congrats Fan..
farg you Rolen
I was sort of pulling for Detroit (though I didn't actually watch any of the games) which is simply more proof that every team I root for will ultimately lose in embarrassing fashion.
More proof that people who don't root for Philly across the board don't understand what real pain is.
Congrats though, 64.
Soon-to-be-Yankee Daisuke Matsuzaka was posted today by Japan. Anyone got $80M-$100M to spare for a pitcher?
WBC vs Cuba (http://youtube.com/watch?v=xsptUfnhVcc) (watch the 2nd pitch)
Pitching clips (http://youtube.com/watch?v=YAwmW2S-xX4) (watch from :43 - :55)
Hitting a HR (http://youtube.com/watch?v=Z3-uZrDn0OA) (I love the reaction and the video game graphics :-D )
Pitching clips from an 8th/9th inning (http://youtube.com/watch?v=oPDGUzMzGts)
That Chinese dude has some sick movement.
Was he throwing a whiffle ball there?
Jesus...
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 28, 2006, 08:56:25 AM
Quote from: Fan_Since_64 on October 28, 2006, 12:36:08 AM
Okay gang, indulge me this one.... ;)
How sweet it is!! :crazy
1926....
1931....
1934....
1942....
1944....
1946....
1964....
1967....
1982....
2006
World Champion St. Louis Cardinals!
Wish you were here to share it with, Dad :'(
Okay Eagles, it's your turn!
Phillies:
1980
:'( :'(
i didnt know who won the WS until just now
Quote from: BigEd76 on November 02, 2006, 09:55:45 PM
Soon-to-be-Yankee Daisuke Matsuzaka was posted today by Japan. Anyone got $80M-$100M to spare for a pitcher?
WBC vs Cuba (http://youtube.com/watch?v=xsptUfnhVcc) (watch the 2nd pitch)
Pitching clips (http://youtube.com/watch?v=YAwmW2S-xX4) (watch from :43 - :55)
Hitting a HR (http://youtube.com/watch?v=Z3-uZrDn0OA) (I love the reaction and the video game graphics :-D )
Pitching clips from an 8th/9th inning (http://youtube.com/watch?v=oPDGUzMzGts)
Holy shtein :o That splitter is sick!
Its a crying shame the Phils have no interest/shot
Liriano will have Tommy John surgery and likely miss all of 2007 (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2648521)
Quote from: FFatPatt on November 03, 2006, 03:39:48 PM
Liriano will have Tommy John surgery and likely miss all of 2007 (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2648521)
Likely? That would seem to be a mortal lock to me.
Hopefully he can come back fully ready to go in 2009. He's got one of the good young arms in MLB.
Not any more.
OK, HAD one of the good young arms in MLB.
Lonnie Smith wanted to kill John Schuerholtz (http://www.thestate.com/mld/thestate/15932659.htm)
QuoteThe bad memories, such as the stigma of addiction, stay with him. He carries the most visible reminder on his right hand, where a deep scar near his thumb reminds him that he had both a gun and a plan to kill John Schuerholz, the general manager Smith blamed for sabotaging his career while he played for the Kansas City Royals.
Smith blamed Schuerholz, now the Braves general manager, for blackballing him among other major league teams' officials. Smith says Schuerholz never believed he had given up drugs in 1983, when he spent 30 days in a rehab clinic, and told other general managers Smith was a troublemaker with a dangerous history. Smith, who left Kansas City on bad terms after the '87 season, spent much of the next year begging teams to give him a chance. When it did not happen, Smith bought a dime bag of marijuana and decided Schuerholz's crime was a capital offense.
"If I couldn't get back to baseball," Smith says, "I was going to take him with me. I was going to fly out there, wait for him in the parking lot of the stadium and pop him. If I got caught, I got caught. If not, I'd come on back home."
Smith pauses and extends his right hand to emphasize his point; his thumb and forefinger are extended to symbolize a gun.
"If I did, you know, the thing, at least I took somebody out who was at blame," he says.
For Smith, "the thing" is a pet name for murder. And home was Spartanburg, where he lived during the offseason for 10 years, and the place where Smith endured his most difficult times. It also was the place where he walked into a pawnshop on North Church Street and bought a Taurus 9-millimeter handgun, the weapon he intended to point at Schuerholz's head and, at six feet away, pull the trigger.
Even if he ended up doing that, the Phillies wouldn't have ever passed the Braves.
Early rumor: Texas put up a $25M bid for Matsuzaka
Wow...it would be funny to see them outbid NYY.
Bud Black is the Padres manager.
Josh Barfield was traded to CLE for Kevin Kouzmanoff and another prospect.
Weird trade. Why would SD get rid of him?
Because they needed a 3B and got a decent prospect in return. This opens up 2B for a trade with Atlanta to reunite the Giles brothers out west...
-- Curt Schilling will be on Celebrity Jeopardy on Thursday
-- Here's the new Diamondbacks gear:
Gallery (http://www.mlb.com/ari/photogallery/year_2006/month_11/day_04/cf1733289.html)
(http://mlb.imageg.net/graphics/product_images/pMLB2-3360903dt.jpg)
(http://mlb.imageg.net/graphics/product_images/pMLB2-3360917dt.jpg)
(http://mlb.imageg.net/graphics/product_images/pMLB2-3346962dt.jpg)
(http://mlb.imageg.net/graphics/product_images/pMLB2-3346969dt.jpg)
(http://mlb.imageg.net/graphics/product_images/pMLB2-3346976dt.jpg)
(http://mlb.imageg.net/graphics/product_images/pMLB2-3346984dt.jpg)
Those are better than those purple things....
I wouldn't trade Barfield. Would Barfield and a FA 3B be better than Kouzmanoff and Giles? I'd go with the first option. But then again, SD is starting to get stupid. Alderson is a fool.
new gear looks good.
Quote from: BigEd76 on November 08, 2006, 10:17:34 PM
-- Curt Schilling will be on Celebrity Jeopardy on Thursday
Insufferable iceholes for $1,000, Alex!
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on November 08, 2006, 10:21:04 PM
Those are better than those purple things....
I wouldn't trade Barfield. Would Barfield and a FA 3B be better than Kouzmanoff and Giles? I'd go with the first option. But then again, SD is starting to get stupid. Alderson is a fool.
Everyone is now saying that the Padres are going to sign Soraino.
I have to say that move looks a little better now. Just a little though.
QuoteLos Angeles Dodgers outfielder J.D. Drew opted out of the final three years of his contract Thursday, making him an unrestricted free agent.
Drew, who turns 31 on Saturday, hit .283 with 20 homers and 100 RBIs last season — his second with the Dodgers. He signed a five-year, $55 million contract on Dec. 23, 2004, and had been guaranteed $33 million over the next three years with Los Angeles.
Drew was limited to 72 games in his first year with Los Angeles by injuries, hitting .286 with 15 homers and 36 RBIs. Previously, he played with St. Louis from 1998-03 and with Atlanta in 2004, where he batted a career-best .305 with 31 homers and 93 RBIs.
Dumbass. Who the hell opts out of $33m GUARANTEED? I hope he doesn't get close to that money when he signs with whatever team next.
Where's my d-cell...
Possibly a good thing. Bad if the Mets get him. Good that it's another body some team may want as opposed to Soriano.
Word is Glavine wants out, too. Glavine > Wolf. But Glavine wants more. So....yea.
Quote from: mpmcgraw on November 09, 2006, 05:12:58 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on November 08, 2006, 10:21:04 PM
Those are better than those purple things....
I wouldn't trade Barfield. Would Barfield and a FA 3B be better than Kouzmanoff and Giles? I'd go with the first option. But then again, SD is starting to get stupid. Alderson is a fool.
Everyone is now saying that the Padres are going to sign Soraino.
I have to say that move looks a little better now. Just a little though.
One thing I know from living in SD is they never make a big splash in free agency. So signing Soriano would be a huge shock to their fans.
Nobody would be dumb enough to give a 2B $100M. Other than A-Rod, that kind of money is reserved for OFs and star pitchers...
Boooooooo to J.D. Drew. What a corksucker.
[pg] :-D I told you so (to all Dodgers fans and hbionic[/pg]
Sheffield to Deeeeetroit Basketball for some crap
QuoteDetroit has acquired Gary Sheffield from the New York Yankees for three right-handed pitching prospects, the Tigers announced Friday.
In return for Sheffield, the Tigers sent Humberto Sanchez, Kevin Whelan and Anthony Claggett to New York. Detroit agreed to a two-year contract extension with Sheffield through the 2009 season
So, I guess it's Soriano or bust.
How do the Yankees manage to rape everyone in every single deal they get?
Humberto is a stud.
Boo.
Quote from: mpmcgraw on November 10, 2006, 05:00:18 PM
How do the Yankees manage to rape everyone in every single deal they get?
Humberto is a stud.
Boo.
On the Yankees mlb.com board they're all crying because Humberto is overweight. I farging hate NYC people.
Olney was on SportsCenter and he said that it appears that the Red Sox have won the Matsuzaka sweepstakes. He said that their winning bid will be between $38M and $45M. :o :o
That's just to get the right to sign him.
He also said that JD Boo will make up the money he gave up and the Red Sox are a likely destination
Why are the Sox trying to become NY Jr? The Yankees haven't won anything by just singing every decent free agent hitter imaginable.
Great. Now this will leave the Mets to sign Barry Zito. Hoooooray.
I doubt it.
He likes the west coast and Queens is a hell hole.
He also likes shorties and money and NYC offers both.
Aramis Ramirez returns to the Cubs....5/$70M or so
Kerry Wood re-signed too
Yanks trade Jaret Wright to BAL and will pay $4M of his salary. The O's give up Britton.
Wright is reunited with Leo Mazzone.
Man, 73 million dollars for Aramis Ramirez? Whew.
Eh - he's worth it and all, but Jesus... what kind of a bizarro world are we living in where $14M+ per year is a discounted anything?
:sly
Mark DeRosa signed with the Cubs....4 yrs, $13M. Looks like Helms is ours... :-\
Holy toledo.
:o
$51.1M just to be able to talk to that guy? WTF are the Red Sox thinking??
:-D
QuoteUpdated: Nov. 14, 2006, 8:21 PM ET
Red Sox's winning bid for Matsuzaka -- $51.1 million
NAPLES, Fla. -- The Boston Red Sox emerged Tuesday night as winners of the bidding for Daisuke Matsuzaka with a $51.1 million offer and have 30 days to sign the Japanese pitcher to a contract.
The Seibu Lions of Japan's Pacific League announced they had accepted the high bid -- ESPN's Peter Gammons this week reported the figure to be $42 million -- for their prized pitcher, and the major league commissioner's office simultaneously confirmed at the general managers' meetings that the Red Sox had made the offer.
"We're very pleased and excited. We've long admired Mr. Matsuzaka," Boston general manager Theo Epstein said. "Matsuzaka has a real talent. He would be a great fit with the Red Sox organization.
"We're excited to have won this part of the process. We're hopeful we can reach an agreement."
Even before the announcement, general managers had assumed Boston would be the highest bidder in the blind process.
"We'll congratulate the winner and move on," New York Yankees GM Brian Cashman said Tuesday afternoon.
Matsuzaka is represented by Scott Boras, who last year negotiated the deal that moved center fielder Johnny Damon from the Red Sox to the Yankees.
"Pitching, as usual, is at a premium," Boras said.
Pathetic.
Word is that they did it more to establish a market in Japan.
Hopefully he'll be Hideki Irabu II.
after seeing that youtube vid of his screwball I can see why.
Frank Thomas to the Blue Jays (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2663691) :sly
Excellent.
Less money for them to sign Vernon Wells with.
Interesting. A steal for TOR if he does this year what he did last year. Once again Billy Beane lets a player walk who helped him.
Maybe he'll take Burrell.
That actually makes sense.
He loves getting productive players that are undervalued and would come at a reduced cost. (I am not even trying to bait you)
:-D
The only problem with that is the productive part.
Not if he doesnt have to play the field...
Or hit.
Here are the Free Agent starting pitchers, according to mlb.com:
Player Position 2006 2007 Signing Date & Notes
1. Armas, Tony SP WSH --- --- ---
2. Batista, Miguel SP ARI --- --- ---
3. Bernero, Adam SP KC --- --- Minor league free agent
4. Brazelton, Dewon SP SD --- --- Minor league free agent
5. Buehrle, Mark SP CWS CWS 10/30/06 Club exercised option
6. Chen, Bruce SP BAL --- --- ---
7. Clemens, Roger SP HOU --- --- ---
8. Dickey, R.A. SP TEX --- --- Minor league free agent
9. Eaton, Adam SP TEX --- --- ---
10. Estes, Shawn SP SD --- --- ---
11. Fernandez, Jared SP MIL --- --- Minor league free agent
12. Franklin, Ryan SP CIN --- --- ---
13. Glavine, Tom SP NYM --- --- Provisional - Mutual option
14. Gonzalez, Geremi SP MIL TOR 11/10/06 Minor league contract
15. Hansack, Devern SP BOS --- --- Minor league free agent
16. Helling, Rick SP MIL --- --- ---
17. Hernandez, Orlando SP NYM NYM 11/14/06 Two-year contract
18. Jarvis, Kevin SP BOS --- --- Minor league free agent
19. Johnson, Jason SP CIN --- --- ---
20. Karsay, Steve SP OAK --- --- Was released
21. Kim, Byung-Hyun SP COL COL 11/02/06 Club exercised option
22. Kim, Sun-Woo SP CIN --- --- Minor league free agent
23. Lilly, Ted SP TOR --- --- ---
24. Lima, Jose SP NYM --- --- Minor league free agent
25. Maddux, Greg SP LAD --- --- ---
26. Marquis, Jason SP STL --- --- ---
27. Matsuzaka, Daisuke SP --- --- --- Red Sox own negotiating rights through December 15
28. Mays, Joe SP CIN --- --- Minor league free agent
29. Meche, Gil SP SEA --- --- ---
30. Miller, Wade SP CHC CHC 11/09/06 One-year contract
31. Milton, Eric SP CIN --- --- Player option
32. Moehler, Brian SP FLA --- --- ---
33. Moyer, Jamie SP PHI PHI 10/23/06 Two-year contract
34. Mulder, Mark SP STL --- --- ---
35. Mussina, Mike SP NYY --- --- Provisional - Club option
36. Ohka, Tomo SP MIL --- --- ---
37. Ortiz, Ramon SP WSH --- --- ---
38. Padilla, Vicente SP TEX --- --- ---
39. Park, Chan Ho SP SD --- --- ---
40. Perez, Beltran SP WSH --- --- Minor league free agent
41. Pettitte, Andy SP HOU --- --- ---
42. Radke, Brad SP MIN --- --- ---
43. Redman, Mark SP KC --- --- ---
44. Schmidt, Jason SP SF --- --- ---
45. Sele, Aaron SP LAD --- --- ---
46. Suppan, Jeff SP STL --- --- ---
47. Thomson, John SP ATL --- --- ---
48. Trachsel, Steve SP NYM --- --- ---
49. Wakefield, Tim SP BOS BOS 10/30/06 Club exercised option
50. Weaver, Jeff SP STL --- --- ---
51. Wells, David SP SD --- --- ---
52. Wells, Kip SP TEX --- --- ---
53. Williams, Woody SP SD --- --- ---
54. Wilson, Paul SP CIN --- --- ---
55. Wolf, Randy SP PHI --- --- ---
56. Wood, Kerry SP CHC CHC 11/12/06 One-year contract
57. Wright, Jamey SP SF --- --- Mutual option declined
58. Wright, Jaret SP NYY BAL 11/12/06 Traded by Yankees to Orioles for Chris Britton
59. Zito, Barry
Quote from: Geowhizzer on November 15, 2006, 09:55:05 PM
Here are the Free Agent starting pitchers, according to mlb.com:
Player Position 2006 2007 Signing Date & Notes
1. Armas, Tony SP WSH --- --- ---
2. Batista, Miguel SP ARI --- --- ---
9. Eaton, Adam SP TEX --- --- ---
25. Maddux, Greg SP LAD --- --- ---
29. Meche, Gil SP SEA --- --- ---
34. Mulder, Mark SP STL --- --- ---
36. Ohka, Tomo SP MIL --- --- ---
41. Pettitte, Andy SP HOU --- --- ---
44. Schmidt, Jason SP SF --- --- ---
53. Williams, Woody SP SD --- --- ---
59. Zito, Barry
These guys are who I wouldn't mind seeing in Philly. Mulder might be done, but if he came cheap I'd take a shot on him. Pettitte might retire, but I doubt he will end up doing it. He's trying to be like his boy Rocket.
Schimdt, Zito and Maddux have no shot of coming here.
It's really down to Meche, Wolf and Eaton. Probably whichever one comes cheapest.
Braves are on the verge of acquiring Jake Peavy
I hate you.
Yea Marcus Giles to SD was rumored. But not for Peavy. The Braves better be giving up Hudson.
The Tigers re-signed Seans Casey!
Someone named Johan Santana won the AL Cy Young
Quote from: SunMo on November 16, 2006, 02:39:50 PM
Braves are on the verge of acquiring Jake Peavy
For who?
Ugh.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on November 16, 2006, 07:37:45 PM
Quote from: SunMo on November 16, 2006, 02:39:50 PM
Braves are on the verge of acquiring Jake Peavy
For who?
Ugh.
Giles, Haracio Ramirez and Saltalmacchia or however the hell you spell it.
Steal.
QuoteAstros offer deals to Lee, Soriano
By BRIAN McTAGGART
Copyright 2006 Houston Chronicle
NAPLES, Fla. - The Astros have made multi-year offers to free-agent sluggers Carlos Lee and Alfonso Soriano and are in serious discussions about a deal with Woody Williams, according to a Major League Baseball official.
Astros general manager Tim Purpura told the Chronicle late Wednesday he had made some offers, but won't confirm to which players. Lee hit .286 with 37 homers and 116 RBIs last season with the Milwaukee Brewers and Texas Rangers, and Soriano hit .277 with 46 homers, 41 steals and 95 RBIs last year for the Washington Nationals.
Williams, who played at the Univeristy of Houston, went 12-5 in 24 starts last year for the San Diego Padres
Phreak, that Peavy deal was a false report from mlbtraderumors.com.
:-D
Thanks, Billy.
Good news because a Smoltz/Hudson/Peavy rotation would not be something I want to see.
QuoteThe Associated Press reports that Bob Geren will be Oakland's next manager.
Geren was the favorite right from the start and nothing changed during the interview process. A longtime friend of Billy Beane's, he'll be more willing to go along with the general manager's "suggestions" than an outside candidate might have been. Also, from the sound of things, several of the players will prefer to him the ousted Ken Macha. There hasn't been any word yet on how long of a contract he'll get.
Quote from: Billy Beane on November 16, 2006, 08:08:55 PM
Phreak, that Peavy deal was a false report from mlbtraderumors.com.
how do you know it was false pumpkin?
Quote from: SunMo on November 17, 2006, 08:27:46 AM
Quote from: Billy Beane on November 16, 2006, 08:08:55 PM
Phreak, that Peavy deal was a false report from mlbtraderumors.com.
how do you know it was false pumpkin?
mlbtraderumors posted a story saying it was not true.
Another japanese pitcher has been posted. He will probably go for around 10-15 million.
Michael Barrett might be traded.
Pearl Harbor Round 2 has begun
The Angels have made an offer to Soriano but it is only believed to be for about $14M a year for 5 years. If the Phils reported offer of 6 years $98M are true, the Phils have the edge there.
The Angels also are interested in JD Drew and have reportedly offered Zito a deal worth about $100M for 7 years
Mets are about to offer Moises Alou a 2yr deal. This was reportedly one of the Phils backup plans in case they didn't get Soriano.
Jon Garland is about to be traded, probably to Texas.
Cincy has signed basketball head and total icehole Alex Gonzalez to a 3yr deal. I hate that dude.
QuoteKengshill Pujols-R- Dodgers Nov. 18 - 12:21 pm et
21-year-old Kengshill Pujols was released by the Dodgers after police caught him with 130 bags of crack cocaine on Thursday.
Yeah, 110-120 might have been acceptable, but the Dodgers had to draw the line somewhere. Pujols, a converted catcher, was suspended Aug. 1 for 50 games after testing positive for performance-enhancing substances
130?!?!?! Jeez.
Hey I hear we need a RF too.
How bout getting both Soriano and Alou.
Astros about to get Carlos Lee. I guess that's good.
Soriano to the Cubs...possibly 8 YEARS, $135M (http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/6188248) :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D
Jeez thats a lot.
But we don't get him.
McNabb hurt, no Soriano...whats next?
yay.
Trades, I guess :-\
I really dont see why Gillick would rather spend 100 million on a borderline all star than a stud pitcher given the Phillies needs.
O whatever.
C-Coste/Ruiz
1b-Howard
2b-Utley
3b-Helms
SS-Rollins
LF-Burrell
CF-Andruw Jones
RF-Victorino
That would work.
Cubs officially signed Soriano. 8 years/$136M. :-D
Jesus Christ thats way too much.
It still sucks we didn't get him. But for that kind of money Sweet Lou and those guys can have him.
Quote from: Dillen37 on November 19, 2006, 04:05:09 PM
Cubs officially signed Soriano. 8 years/$136M. :-D
Thats farging ridiculous.
Great, more depressing news.
Burrell in left! My dreams are true.
that's a horrible contract, and they'll be regretting it later, but you have to admire their attempts to win now. oh well, another 87 win year and battle for the Wild Card for the Phightins!
Attempt to win now?
What makes it even more retarded is that they were the second worst team this year.
so? what has that got to do with anything related to 2007?
Because they will still suck in 07. Soriano isnt going to change that.
If Prior can have a healthy 2007, the Cubs will be in the thick of things.
That's not likely, but still...
Cubs officially signed Soriano. 8 years/$136M
thank god
saves the phils from making a very expensive mistake
Quote from: Geowhizzer on November 19, 2006, 08:28:13 PM
If Prior can have a healthy 2007, the Cubs will be in the thick of things.
That's not likely, but still...
Exactly.
Quote from: SunMo on November 19, 2006, 07:42:21 PM
that's a horrible contract, and they'll be regretting it later, but you have to admire their attempts to win now. oh well, another 87 win year and battle for the Wild Card for the Phightins!
I don't see even that many wins for next year's team as of now.
Quote from: FFatPatt on November 20, 2006, 08:22:27 AM
I don't see even that many wins for next year's team as of now.
well, it is only November
I don't have the sunniest outlook today about any of my favorite sports teams.
well, duh
NL MVP is announced today... :evil :evil :evil
i think you know who it's going to be
Pat Burrell?
Quote from: SunMo on November 20, 2006, 09:04:50 AM
i think you know who it's going to be
Pujols. Insult to Philly injury. Literally.
The Dodgers are morons (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2669903)
Juan Pierre gets a 5 year $45M deal. Are they nuts?!?
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on November 20, 2006, 06:57:24 PM
The Dodgers are morons (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2669903)
Juan Pierre gets a 5 year $45M deal. Are they nuts?!?
OMFG.
There's the brink of madness and then there's the abyss...
Wow. I wouldn't have given him 5/35 much less 5/45. Insane, dude.
Wow, wow, wow.
I can't believe this. You mean we couldn't have had Kenny Lofton for another 1-year contract (I haven't checked if he has signed anywhere else)....
What about Repko? Kemp even?
Pierre? 45mil?
Unless the thinking is that he can get on base as much as Lofton did...behind Furcal...and replicate last seasons numbers. But Lofton was clutch more times than not. Pierre...I'm not sold on the guy. I need to read more on the guy. If he can produce I guess I'll be ok...every single would be a guaranteed double.Seems like every time wants to have a Jose Reyes type guy.
45 Million? So much for trying to bring in some Bullpen Help, A Starting Pitcher and another Bat.
I'm jumping the gun....but still.... :paranoid
$45M for Pierre :-D :-D
What a dumb, dumb signing.
I'm feeling alot better about the signing.
It's a shtein load of money...but he replaces and antique Kenny Lofton...we have the speed and the guy got 204 hits and 58 stolen bases last season.
I think he's well worth it.
Him and Furcal will make a great 1-2 punch at the top of the lineup.
...and we got NOMA too! :evil
$9M a year for a guy that hits singles, has no arm strength at all and wears camouflage...
I wouldn't have a problem with the Phillies signing Juan Pierre for a reasonable amount. $45M isn't reasonable. It's not even in the same universe as reasonable.
In fact, I'd say a "Pointing and laughing at the Dodgers" thread is called for here.
:-D
Morneau wins the AL MVP.
Yankee fans are pissed that their boy Jeter didn't get it.
mornwho?
never heard of him.
jeter was robbed.
Quote from: BigEd76 on November 21, 2006, 10:04:21 AM
$9M a year for a guy that hits singles, has no arm strength at all and wears camouflage...
5 million of that is probaby for not being a douche like Drew is.
I'm cool with 200 hits...even if they are bunts...it would set up Furcal nicely! :evil
Quote from: hunt on November 21, 2006, 03:11:01 PM
mornwho?
never heard of him.
jeter was robbed.
Justin Morneau (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/7063)
Quote from: Geowhizzer on November 21, 2006, 07:33:55 PM
Quote from: hunt on November 21, 2006, 03:11:01 PM
mornwho?
never heard of him.
jeter was robbed.
Justin Morneau (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/7063)
Unless a guy plays in New York, hunt has no idea who he is. Trust me, THAT IS INCREDIBLY ACCURATE!
:-D
Just for the record, Jeter completely deserved this MVP. I hate the Yankees and bask in their little failures as much as anyone, but come on.
Maybe baseball writers are just as sick of hearing, reading about, and seeing the Yankees as the rest of America is?
I mean how many times did we turn on baseball on Fox or ESPN during the summer and see the Yankees? For Christ's sake, all I heard all summer was Yankees/Red Sox, Red Sox/Yankees, blah-blah-blah. It's nauseating after a while.
I agree as a fan of the game that Jeter had a better year than Morneau, but I honestly believe the nausea factor played a role here.
The one time Jeter deserved an award.... :-D
i have actually heard of morneau, btw.
anybody who didn't have jeter in their top 3 should be shot...damn anti-yankees bias. :boo
got what a pathetic mvp race in the american league...did anyone even care about it to begin with....bor-ring
yeah...the philadelphia area was definitely more interested in the nl mvp race. way to shed some light on things.
im talking nationally
howard/puljos vs jeter/morneau
gimme a break
Jeter .343 14 97 118 34
Morneau .321 34 130 97 3
I'm not sure how Jeter had the better year.
He wears pinstripes. Duh.
Sarge Jr to LA of Anaheim....5 yrs, $50M
Another awful contract
Burrell@12million=bargain
Stand Pat
is sal fasano available?
the phils need a mullet
Quote from: BigEd76 on November 22, 2006, 01:16:54 PM
Sarge Jr to LA of Anaheim....5 yrs, $50M
Another awful contract
Jesus christ! Thats terrible.
when the angels red sox yankees mets cubs sign a plyer the money is irrelevant
so these deals are only terrible for the teams that werent willing to or couldnt ante up
That deal is terrible because Matthews Jr. sucks and no team should have ante up $50 mil for him. Thats crazy. Anaheim has the cash but just because you have it doesn't mean you give it away to a bum. And thats what Sarge Jr. is...a bum.
Quote from: BigEd76 on November 22, 2006, 01:16:54 PM
Sarge Jr to LA of Anaheim....5 yrs, $50M
Another awful contract
Completely ridiculous.
That deal is terrible because Matthews Jr. sucks and no team should have ante up $50 mil for him. Thats crazy. Anaheim has the cash but just because you have it doesn't mean you give it away to a bum. And thats what Sarge Jr. is...a bum.
you can get bum for any amount of money....again the 50 mil doesnt matter to the angels...its a much better deal than the phils giving jon leiber 25 mil
Is it? How do you figure?
Is Jon Lieber still under contract? I hope so.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on November 22, 2006, 03:15:04 PM
Is it? How do you figure?
the 25M leiber gets keeps the phils from getting anyone else.
the 50M Matthews Jr gets will not stop his new team from aquiring anyone else they may need
Ummm... Whatever Jon Leiber is getting paid will look like chump change after this off-season is over. The spending done thus far is patently absurd.
Gary Matthews, Jr.?? FIFTY MILLION DOLLARS?!
Ha times infinity.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on November 22, 2006, 03:42:00 PM
Quote from: Wingspan on November 22, 2006, 03:29:15 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on November 22, 2006, 03:15:04 PM
Is it? How do you figure?
the 25M leiber gets keeps the phils from getting anyone else.
It has? No.
the phils insist on sticking to their "budget while there is no cap.
the amout of money players are getting is irrelevant to an extent that it only hurts the teams profits when they spend more. it does not hurt other areas of the team because of having to fit under a cap.
The Phillies are carrying an enormous amount of debt on CPB, Wing. They built the place with a debt/income ratio that assumed near capacity every night and that certainly hasn't happened the last two years. Far from it, actually.
There was an article written a while back that suggested that the Phillies would actually have to drop payroll significantly if the team's fortunes at the gate didn't improve dramatically.
It's not an excuse for their cheapness and idiotic mismanagement of available payroll on lousy players. It is what it is, though.
(http://www.nypost.com/seven/11222006/img/front112206.jpg)
Stupid contracts drive the price up for everyone else....even the average and garbage players. It's tough to have a budget in the $70M-$90M range when your bench guys make $7M a year...
Kramer hates black people :-D
the 25M leiber gets keeps the phils from getting anyone else.
the 50M Matthews Jr gets will not stop his new team from aquiring anyone else they may need
exactly...50 million is chump change to the angels...where as 25 mil is meaningful money for the phils
Houston's latest offer to Lee is 5/$73M
ok cya
carlos lee to houston...
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2674398
good
6 years $100 million for him is a disgrace. I'm beginning to think Burrell's contract might be easier to move.
Wow. There really is no one left on the market. Dellucci, I guess. But would have to trade Burrell to keep him. And Burrell is probably better.
you can't provide any insight from your pillow talk with Marcus?
No we just get down to business.
But really, anyone ever see the guy? He is a fat motherfarger. Someone can't get enough of the buffet table.
6 years/$100M for Carlos Lee is the definition of lunacy.
Sheer unadulterated idiocy. It makes the Juan Pierre deal seem fiscally prudent by comparison. WTF is Houston thinking?
Easy: :deion
Quote from: BigEd76 on November 22, 2006, 09:34:39 PM
Houston's latest offer to Lee is 5/$73M
So they added the final year for $27M. Can't say I like the deal, although he's already the 2nd best hitter on the team.
(http://mlb.mlb.com/images/2006/11/24/IBaHfKgt.jpg)
"Fat guy in a little coat....."
(The other guy is Woody Williams)
Trade:
To Brewers: Johnny Estrada, Claudio Vargas, Greg Aquino
To Diamondbacks: Doug Davis, Dana Eveland, Dave Krynzel
Danys Baez to Baltimore
^^ super
stand pat
shtein. :boo
Randy Wolf...was he any good? Reports are that he's going to sign wif the Dodgers.
Quote from: hbionic on November 27, 2006, 06:22:34 PM
Randy Wolf...was he any good? Reports are that he's going to sign wif the Dodgers.
He's decent but coming off an injury. Lefty with a nice breaking ball. Fastball usually tops out in the 88-90 range. Expect 8-10 wins and a mid 4.00 ERA from him.
Great. :-\
He returned in July from Tommy John surgery and could barely complete 6 innings. Usually the 2nd year back is when pitchers get back to original form. He's OK, nothing awesome. He can hit and run pretty good for a pitcher. He had the "Wolf Pack" here in Philly where a group of fans wore werewolf masks.
And fell in love with some random chick on the subway in NYC and we were subjected to interviews and stories about it for weeks. He never talked to her but was obsessed and they put out a plea to her and she never contacted him. Gay stuff.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on November 28, 2006, 02:40:24 AM
And fell in love with some random chick on the subway in NYC and we were subjected to interviews and stories about it for weeks. He never talked to her but was obsessed and they put out a plea to her and she never contacted him. Gay stuff.
True story?
Quote from: Die-Hard on November 28, 2006, 08:36:01 AM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on November 28, 2006, 02:40:24 AM
And fell in love with some random chick on the subway in NYC and we were subjected to interviews and stories about it for weeks. He never talked to her but was obsessed and they put out a plea to her and she never contacted him. Gay stuff.
True story?
Unfortunately, yes.
It's oddly similar to an awful movie that came out a few years back with that gay guy from N Sync.
The Yankees bid $25M for that lefty Japanese pitcher, Kei Igawa...
Brett Saberhagen says he would decline his induction to Cooperstown if elected because Pete Rose is not in.
Nice thought, Brett. But considering you have zero shot go back to doing whatever you're doing now.
Quote from: BigEd76 on November 28, 2006, 09:00:52 PM
The Yankees bid $25M for that lefty Japanese pitcher, Kei Igawa...
Actually $26,000,194 - the 194 being the amount of K's he had last season.
Are you kidding me? :-D
JD Drew to Boston for 4 years $56M.
Get yer batteries ready, Beantown.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on November 30, 2006, 08:09:42 PM
JD Drew to Boston for 4 years $56M.
Get yer batteries ready, Beantown.
He'll be training about 15 minutes from where I work.
Gotta start stocking up on the D-cells. >:D
Do your civic duty as a Philly fan and go take care of bidness, Whizzer. ;D
One more RP off the market - Rockies signed LaTroy Hawkins...
I cant believe he's still pitching. I feel like he's been around forever.
Indians sign Roberto Hernandez & Aaron Fultz to 1yr deals
the phils not resigning fultz was a dumb move.
Quote from: Wingspan on December 03, 2006, 11:50:04 AM
the phils not resigning fultz was a dumb move.
What's most dumb about it is that they seem to have no plans to get someone else in the bullpen in his place.
Quote from: FFatPatt on December 03, 2006, 11:58:39 AM
Quote from: Wingspan on December 03, 2006, 11:50:04 AM
the phils not resigning fultz was a dumb move.
What's most dumb about it is that they seem to have no plans to get someone else in the bullpen in his place.
(http://danwarne.com/pics/captain_obvious.jpg)
David Weathers goes back to Cincy. Pat Gillick will soon be holding tryouts for anyone in the Delaware Valley who can pitch relief.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on December 04, 2006, 02:43:48 PM
David Weathers goes back to Cincy. Pat Gillick will soon be holding tryouts for anyone in the Delaware Valley who can pitch relief.
I pitched middle relief in Jr. High
My 65=mph fastball will be in huge demand, I'm sure. :yay
Pat Gillick on line one, Geo. You throw as hard as Jamie Moyer does.
Greg Maddux to the Padres
Quote from: BigEd76 on December 04, 2006, 09:51:43 PM
Greg Maddux to the Padres
He's prolonging the farewell tour?
JD Boo to the Sox
Maddux to the Padres
Both offical now.
Julio Lugo to the Sox for 4 / $36M
Arthur Rhodes to the Sox 4/ 25
Barry Bonds to the Sox 5/ 110
Idiots.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on November 09, 2006, 08:55:29 PM
QuoteLos Angeles Dodgers outfielder J.D. Drew opted out of the final three years of his contract Thursday, making him an unrestricted free agent.
Drew, who turns 31 on Saturday, hit .283 with 20 homers and 100 RBIs last season — his second with the Dodgers. He signed a five-year, $55 million contract on Dec. 23, 2004, and had been guaranteed $33 million over the next three years with Los Angeles.
Drew was limited to 72 games in his first year with Los Angeles by injuries, hitting .286 with 15 homers and 36 RBIs. Previously, he played with St. Louis from 1998-03 and with Atlanta in 2004, where he batted a career-best .305 with 31 homers and 93 RBIs.
Dumbass. Who the hell opts out of $33m GUARANTEED? I hope he doesn't get close to that money when he signs with whatever team next.
Where's my d-cell...
you got your wish...he didnt get even close to that money...he got more than double (http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20061206/sp_nm/baseball_drew_dc_1) :-X
Bonds showed up at the GM meetings to get someone...anyone....to offer a deal... :-D
you got your wish...he didnt get even close to that money...he got more than double
i dont think people really appreciate what it costs to get players in baseball now...the phillies def dont
NO ONE is overpaid in baseball
Not even Mike Hampton?
Breaking news: Jason Schmidt to the Dodgers...3 yrs, $47M
Holy shtein. :-X
Quote from: BigEd76 on December 06, 2006, 01:37:05 PM
Breaking news: Jason Schmidt to the Dodgers...3 yrs, $47M
If that's true I'm going to jerk off right now.
Link (http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/6242312)
Penny will probably be traded for a hitter...
Penny will probably be traded for a hitter Burrell...
and then i will jerk off
Penny showed no balls in the playoffs (albeit hurt), but his mental toughness wasn't there. Schmidt is better than his record shows. Giants just weren't producing runs for him...but he's almost a guaranteed win.
I love this guy. Penny for a hitter...something in the 5 oe 6 spot would be perfect. Yees. :evil
Any chance you freaks will stop babbling about beating off in this piece?
SS Furcal
CF Pierre
1B Nomar
2B Kent
RF _________
3B Betemit
LF _________
C Martin
It's going to be a lot of 2-1 games again...
Another Dodgers note: looks like they'll sign Lieberthal to a 1-yr deal for $1M with an option for 2008...
SS Furcal
CF Pierre
1B Nomar
2B Kent
RF _________
3B Betemit
LF Burrell
C Martin
Another bullpen guy is off the market as Alan Embree signed with Oakland. Looks like Piazza is heading there too....
What's the skinny on Lieberthal?
Is he solid...as a backup catcher?
He hit well last year. His first year doing so since 2003. Odds are he'll get injured at some point, but 1-2 days a week he'll be decent. Good guy, slowly balding.
:-D
He's from Glendale...about 10 minutes from where I live, next to pasadena....
I wonder how many times during each game he plays I'll have to listen to 'He's a local kid...blah, blah, blah'.
seems to always be on the DL with a bad knee, bad groin or bad back. Always plays well at Dodger Stadium though...
Some notes from a source down at the meetings:
Brad Penny is the latest starter to be linked to the Mets, the word from LA sources is that Schmidt's signing makes him expendable...
- The Rich Harden/Joe Blanton to the Mets rumors are being leaked by Oakland, not the other way around. What motivation they would have to do this is puzzling.
- Baltimore execs have been on the phone non-stop in the lobby for 45 minutes now, and at one point GMs Jim Duquette and have been huddling, and one of our baseball sources said that the Reds are trying to acquire Rodrigo Lopez.
- Also, one O's insider suggested that the Mets have inquired about 2B Brian Roberts.
- Industry sources insist that the Minnesota Twins are actively trying to convince Steve Trachsel to sign a one-year deal.
- The Devil Rays and Marlins are said to be discussing a Rocco Baldelli-Yusmeiro Petit (and another player) swap.
Trade:
Horacio Ramirez to Seattle
Rafael Soriano to Atlanta
Piazza to Oakland is now official....1 yr, $8.5M
Luis Gonzalez to the Dodgers too.....1 yr
Rumored trade: Jon Garland to the Astros for Willy Taveras, Taylor Buchholz and Jason Hirsh
In the Rule V draft today, the Cubs selected the tattooed druggie Josh Hamilton and traded him to the Reds, who will give him a shot to stick around as a backup corner OF.
Yankess acquired Josh Phelps in the Rule V also. He'll compete w/ Andy Phillips for the starting 1st spot.
Pete Rose signed with the Mets.
4 years/$1
Gil Meche to the Royals for 5 yrs, $55M :-D :-D :-D
Not crazy at all, right IGY?
I heard that deal was done, Ed.
Nice to know mediocrity is worth 11 mil though.
Quote from: BigEd76 on December 07, 2006, 12:50:41 PM
Rumored trade: Jon Garland to the Astros for Willy Taveras, Taylor Buchholz and Jason Hirsh
According to Jon Heyman, at SI.com, the deal fell through because Buchholz failed a physical.
11 mil isnt crazy for a FA pitcher these days...im just suprised the royals did it
meche has very comparable stats to myers actually and hes supoosedly on the cusp of acedom
"Acedome" + KC Royals = Oxymoron.
i meant myers
Nevertheless.
Yeah, he's so great that the pitching-desperate Mariners let him walk away for nothing....
$11M isn't crazy for Gil Meche?
:P
If you say so, dook.
Yeah, he's so great that the pitching-desperate Mariners let him walk away for nothing....
who said hes great?
$11M isn't crazy for Gil Meche?
its crazy to you cause you have no idea what baseball free agents go for...but in terms of the league its par for the course....average players get huge money in baseball...its been that way forever....one day youll come to this realization
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 07, 2006, 03:22:54 PMmeche has very comparable stats to myers actually and hes supoosedly on the cusp of acedom
So if Myers = ace and Meche = Myers then Meche = ace, right?
Myers>Meche
Pitching is so scarce in the MLB that if you have one good year/mediocre year and become a FA the next you're golden...
Meche getting 11 million a year is a bit surprising, but Ted Lilly getting 10 million I think is even a bigger surprise. At least Meche is young and has some upside, Ted Lilly is garbage 15-13 with a 4.3 ERA is worth 10 million a year for 4 years?
I don't care if teams pay FAs outrageous contracts, they are completely within their right to do so. Usually, however, you see a natural progression of contracts escalating, but for some reason this year it seems like it all came at once. Every FA is getting an amazing deal.
It's just very interesting to see the dichotomy in the league. Some baseball players are woefully undercompensated, like Howard and Utley (I know, I know, they are on their rookie deals but for their production they are undercompensated in terms of mere production), and then Ted Lilly and Gil Meche had been mediocre and get great deals.
The Royals also spent 4 / $45M on Miguel Batista. $100M for Meche and Batista.... :-D
Since when did the Royals become big spenders? Did they save up all that revenue so they could blow it all on Meche and Batista? That's probably why they are the Royals...
That surprises me that KC paid that amount of money to those guys. It doesn't shock me that Gil Meche got $11M per season because Ted Lilly just got $10M a season. It just shocks me KC was the one to pay that amount. Pitching is in such demand that in order to keep up with the Jones' teams gotta overpay. Which is why contraction should happen.
I wanted Meche or Eaton. We obviously got Eaton and got him for less. Thats fine.
QuoteOctavio Dotel and the Royals have reportedly agreed to a one-year, $5 million contract.
Dotel, who will go into the closer's role, can make an extra $2 million in incentives. A healthy Dotel is a terrific reliever, but he showed little last season after returning from Tommy John surgery. It's another risky pickup for a Royals team still likely to finish in fifth place, but this one won't hurt in 2008 and beyond if it doesn't work out. Dec. 7 - 9:12 pm et
Quote from: Eaglez on December 07, 2006, 06:48:45 PM
Since when did the Royals become big spenders? Did they save up all that revenue so they could blow it all on Meche and Batista? That's probably why they are the Royals...
They are making the same moves the Tigers made a few years back, signing guys like Fernando Vina and Troy Percival, to prove that they committed to winning and what not. Even though these moves will hurt them, it could increase their wins and some bigger free agents or managers (read Jim Leyland) could come there thinking they have a chance to win.
Bonds just re-signed with the Giants....1 yr, $16M
1/5th of the Giants payroll is going towards a part-time player at the very end of his career.
Brilliant.
:yay
IGY... I'm fully, acutely aware of what baseball players are getting in terms of salaries. Just because a guy like Gil Meche gets $55M, that doesn't mean he's worth anywhere near that. Not in a perfect world, and not anywhere else because he's nothing more than a mediocre pitcher and mediocre pitchers are not worth spending that kind of dough on. NO WAY, NO HOW.
Here's a statistic to chew on... in his last 76 1/3 innings pitched year, Meche's ERA was 5.42. FIVE-POINT-FOUR-TWO!! And that doesn't include the additional nine unearned runs he surrendered during that stretch.
Kansas City just signed him to be their ace for the next five years. Does the information I supplied above lead you to concur with them that he's an ace?
I hope not.
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on December 07, 2006, 10:27:19 PM
1/5th of the Giants payroll is going towards a part-time player at the very end of his career.
Brilliant.
:yay
The fans will come out to see him since he's an icon in the area and is chasing the HR record, that validates the salary.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on December 07, 2006, 09:50:56 PM
QuoteOctavio Dotel and the Royals have reportedly agreed to a one-year, $5 million contract.
Dotel, who will go into the closer's role, can make an extra $2 million in incentives. A healthy Dotel is a terrific reliever, but he showed little last season after returning from Tommy John surgery. It's another risky pickup for a Royals team still likely to finish in fifth place, but this one won't hurt in 2008 and beyond if it doesn't work out. Dec. 7 - 9:12 pm et
I read he signed with Cleveland ???
Quote from: SD_Eagle on December 07, 2006, 10:28:49 PM
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on December 07, 2006, 10:27:19 PM
1/5th of the Giants payroll is going towards a part-time player at the very end of his career.
Brilliant.
:yay
The fans will come out to see him since he's an icon in the area and is chasing the HR record, that validates the salary.
I realize that, bro. Putting fannies in the seats is way more important to that team than actually competing. That's why Jason Schmidt is a Dodger right now.
PS: If Zito signs with the Giants, fully 2/5th's of their payroll will be tied up in two players. Awsum.
The latest Zito rumor has him signing with the Giants? Didn't see that one but guess it makes sense after Schmidt signed with LA. As long as he doesn't sign with the Mets I'm happy.
Zito was talked about with the Giants, but once they signed Barry, that pretty much took them out of the race.
He's coming to the Mets. Possibly Haren too.
Zito is a great fit for the Mets. That is incredibly full of shtein. :-D
I love how the Mets are trading lots of young starting pitchers for lots of young relievers. That's always a good idea.
Take it for what it's worth but this is a blurb from ESPN Insider's rumors page regarding Zito & the Mets:
QuoteSay hello to big bucks
Dec 7 - The Mets are ready to make a major pitch to Barry Zito, The New York Daily News reports. Insiders suggest the Mets will ultimately offer a comparable deal to the Rangers and land the durable lefthander -- despite New York's behind-the-scenes campaign to lower expectations about its willingness to aggressively bid.
"Don't believe anything you hear about the Mets not being there [at six years, $16 million per season] for Zito," an MLB source told the newspaper. "They're pulling a Carlos Beltran here. He doesn't want to go to Texas and he doesn't want to stay in the Bay Area [with the Giants]. And all of his people want him in New York."
According to The New York Post, the Yankees also have checked in on Zito. They are unlikely to meet his asking price but want to make sure whoever signs the lefty spends a lot.
They dealt one starting pitcher (Brian Bannister), who has made all of 4 or so starts in th bigs. He was expendable with Humber, Pelfrey, Maine and Perez as the young arms. Plus, they traded for Justin Vargas last month.
Am I missying something Billy?
I don't think Zito has a New York-type attitude. It will be interesting to see how he reacts when expectations arised and he is no longer in the comfy confines of the Bay Area.
Yeah, I understand what the Royals are trying to do in sparking interest in the hopes of raising revenue and establishing themselves as a bigger market team, but signing mediocre pitchers probably won't get the job done. Just because a team gives a pitcher 55 million doesn't mean he's good.
i agree
zito will get his $$ in ny and then will implode faster than a cocaine heartbeat
where are all of the "Zito doesnt want to come to the east coast" people?
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 08, 2006, 08:07:49 AM
i agree
zito will get his $$ in ny and then will implode faster than a cocaine heartbeat
You hope.
Quote from: Wingspan on December 08, 2006, 11:37:38 AM
where are all of the "Zito doesnt want to come to the east coast" people?
They joined the "Barry isn't juicing" crowd out on a deserted island.
Im sure its in the death thread, but former SF SS Jose Uribe died in a car crash in the DR this morning.
Barry Zito doesn't want to come to the East Coast aka the Phils inquired about him and he said he wouldn't pitch for them
That's just an excuse guys tell to the Phillies before they sign in New York.
hed almost rather retire than go to the east coast...much less ny or philly
but the mets are offering a trillion dollars and donald fehr is like get your candy ass to queens asap and sign that shtein for the union and for your agent
mf'er with the money youre gonna make you can buy california
Yanks sign Pettite to a 1 year deal.
I wonder how Andy will fare without his wittle buddy Woger Cwemens.
what makes you think Clemens won't be rollin into the Bronx come June?
Zito's "people" are pushing him towards NY according to an article I read. So that jives with what IGY said about Fehr.
And I wouldn't want him in Philly anyhow. Didn't want him last year and don't want him this year.
He can go to NY. Pat Burrell will work the count, increase and pitch count and he'll be out of the game by the 6th inning!!
What is the Mets opening day rotation right now?
Glavine
Hernandez
Maine
Perez
Pelfrey?
Geez...
Quote from: Billy Beane on December 09, 2006, 08:09:37 PM
What is the Mets opening day rotation right now?
Glavine
Hernandez
Maine
Perez
Pelfrey?
Geez...
Right now, yes.
But according to people in NY in could be:
Zito
Glavine
Duque
Mulder
Maine/Perez
I like that...
QuoteUpdated: Dec. 10, 2006, 9:39 AM ET
Dealings would need 'abrupt change' to beat deadline
ESPN.com news services
After all the hoopla surrounding the $51.1 million bid the Red Sox posted to talk to Daisuke Matsuzaka, it appears a contract may not materialize.
Boston essentially needs to get the Matsuzaka agreement done by Tuesday night so they can get him in Wednesday for a physical prior to the Thursday deadllne. One GM Friday said "it would be a shame for Matsuzaka and baseball to hold him out to try to force a change in the posting system." Boras has a very strong relationship with Theo Epstein, but he is willing to hold out players when necessary, such as Boston's current catcher and right fielder.
Will it get done? No one knows. But one can assume that the Red Sox are a far better team with Matsuzaka than without him, although he has never thrown a pitch in the AL East.
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Negotiations between the team and the Japanese star pitcher have nearly broken down, the Boston Herald reported Sunday. A source familiar with the situation told the Herald late Saturday that unless "there is an abrupt change of course," the Red Sox will not strike a deal with Matsuzaka before the deadline midnight Thursday.
Attempts to reach Matsuzaka's agent, Scott Boras, were unsuccessful. The source blamed Boras for a lack of interest in the negotiations.
Matsuzaka signed with Boras in October and was posted for bidding in early November.
Matsuzaka was 17-5 with a 2.13 ERA and 200 strikeouts for his Japanese team, the Seibu Lions, this year. He throws in the high-90s, has good off-speed pitches and is known for his deceptive "gyroball," which has been likened to a screwball.
The Lions will not receive any of the $51.1 million if Matsuzaka does not sign. The initial offer made by the Red Sox was believed to be between $7-8 million a year for four-six years, but Boras was reportedly asking for nearly $15 million a year.
Though the Herald's source admitted that there is time for the outlook to change, as of Saturday night the team and Matsuzaka weren't close to finding a common ground.
Shocking. ::)
Eric Gagne gets a 1yr $8M deal from Texas.
This means that they will most definitley trade Otsuka and another reliever.
That deal is a steal if Gagne pitches anywhere near the way he did from 2002-2004.
The roids did him in. He's cooked, IMO.
Astros traded Willy Taveras, Jason Hirsch, and Taylor Bucholtz for Jason Jennings.
That's way too much for Jennings.
Taveras pissed me off when we played Houston. Good.
we!
Jose Mesa signed with Detroit
with hilarious results!
Looks like Matsuzaka reached a deal with the Red Sox...
flying to Boston (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2696321)
6 years, 52 mil. Which in reality becomes 6 years for 103.1 mil. A little over 17 a year.
Between Matsuzaka, Drew and Lugo, Boston has spent $209 million this month. :o
Everyone cares. Sox. Yanks. OMG.
Jose Vidro was traded to Seattle for 2 players...
QuotePer Rotoworld:
The Brewers and free agent Jeff Suppan have agreed to a four-year, $42 million contract, the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel reports.
Agent Scott Leventhal confirmed the deal, which includes an option for a fifth year. "The city was right, the team was right and the deal was right," he said. "It worked for 'Soup' and (wife) Dana on all three levels." Since he made the right choice to stay in the NL, Suppan figures to remain a solid pitcher. Still, there's little chance of him justifying this kind of salary. His peripherals seem to get a little weaker every year, and he finished last year with a 1.45 WHIP
Over $10 mil a year of farging Jeff Suppan? What the hell is the matter with this world.
approx. 100 players tested positive for steroids in 2003 (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2709496)
The Rangers' offer to Zito was rejected and he's expected to sign with the Giants....
Zito signed a 7 year, $126M deal.
Dumbasses. Atleast they'll have him for his dinosaur years too. :-D
Lieber to the Mets? Lastings Milledge and Aaron Heilmann.
But.... I thought Zito was going to sign with the Mets for a discount!?!?!?
I'm confused.
$18M per year (for seven years) for a guy who plays (at most) 35 games per year.
Awesome.
:yay
I'm glad the Muts didn't get him. :-D
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on December 28, 2006, 06:56:08 PM
I'm glad the Muts didn't get him. :-D
I think they expected too much of a discount.
No one expected him to get the deal he did...For that money, I'm glad the Mets didnt get him.
If SF would not have got involved, he would have signed with NY, and for less than he would have in Texas.
But I guess its all moot now. farg.
Quote from: Die-Hard on December 28, 2006, 11:55:27 PM
No one expected him to get the deal he did...For that money, I'm glad the Mets didnt get him.
If SF would not have got involved, he would have signed with NY, and for less than he would have in Texas.
There are so many non-truths in those comments, I don't even know where to start.
he was never going to ny...just using them to get a non east coast team to ante up...zito in ny would have never worked...for either party
zito got caked off and the mets dont make a horrible signing...everyone wins
No one expected him to get 7/126 = Truth.
I'm glad the Mets didnt get him (for that deal) = Truth.
He would have taken less from NY than Texas = Truth.
Hows that for a place to start?
Quote from: Die-Hard on December 29, 2006, 08:53:37 AM
No one expected him to get 7/126 = Truth.
I'm glad the Mets didnt get him (for that deal) = Truth.
He would have taken less from NY than Texas = Truth.
Wrong. Obviously, no less than two people expected him to get that -- the Giants GM and Scott Boras.
Wrong. You wanted him, and you don't pay the bills.
Wrong. You're assuming that it was a 2-team race until the Giants stepped in. Wrong wrong wrong.
By saying "no one expected", the no one was meant to be all of you dorks, writers, bloggers, etc - not Boras and Brian Sabien. Obviously, they were aware of the possibility of a 7/126 deal. As ludacris as it is.
Damn right I wanted him...I havent denied that once. Im upset the Mets didnt get him, and pretty nervous as to how Minaya will fill the rotation...BUT, for the money SF paid, Im glad the Mets didnt match.
It was a 2 team race until SF stepped in. If it had stayed a 2 team race, Zito would have been a Met.
Boras used the Mets like a cheap hooker. Ha.
Bobby Murcer has brain tumor removed. (http://msn.foxsports.com/other/story/6313982?CMP=OTC-K9B140813162&ATT=0)
New Red Sox closer: Joel Pineiro ???
The Yankees have a tentative deal to send Randy Johnson back to Arizona for 3 players. They also signed Doug Mientkiewicz....
Quote from: BigEd76 on January 04, 2007, 06:53:24 PM
The Yankees have a tentative deal to send Randy Johnson back to Arizona for 3 players. They also signed Doug Mientkiewicz....
He's a great glove man at first base, and the Yanks have more than enough offense.
Good move.
Jake Peavy Arrested (http://www.usatoday.com/sports/baseball/nl/padres/2007-01-05-peavy-arrest_x.htm?csp=34)
illegal double parking, what a badass.
is that more or less badass than dancing in the street
Quote from: BigEd76 on January 03, 2007, 06:47:46 PM
New Red Sox closer: Joel Pineiro ???
ok i may be a little out of the baseball loop, you know, since no one should be talking about it during football season, but what happened to papelbon?
They are making him a starter
thats hella gay
i dont' think they agree
Quote from: Geowhizzer on January 04, 2007, 07:39:28 PM
Quote from: BigEd76 on January 04, 2007, 06:53:24 PM
The Yankees have a tentative deal to send Randy Johnson back to Arizona for 3 players. They also signed Doug Mientkiewicz....
He's a great glove man at first base, and the Yanks have more than enough offense.
Good move.
i agree...they plan on platooning mientkiewicz at first with andy phillips or josh phelps & using giambi strictly as dh, so that will most likely signal the end of bernie williams' career as a yankee. bernie gave this team a lot but i think it's time.
and good riddance to the big unit...he was an enormous bust. i guess they'll make a run at clemens now that they were able to free up $12 mill by trading unit.
Arizona got raped by Cashman. And Randy is getting sloppy seconds by boning them for a new deal.
Clemens is Favre. Favre is Clemens. Both of those iceholes need to retire. Especially Clemens.
i don't like clemens either...i'd rather see them go with the youth movement than sign his geriatric arse but i think he'll wind up in pinstripes.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on January 06, 2007, 12:13:10 PM
Clemens is Favre. Favre is Clemens.
Wrong. Clemens is a roid monkey. Favre is a vicodin junkie.
Ripken and Gwynn in the Hall. No McGwire. Ha. Ha.
No Wally Joyner either. :(
list (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/hof07/news/story?id=2725461)
288 wins gets you less than 23% of the vote.
287 wins gets you less than 48% of the vote.
Tommy John and Bert Blyleven each deserve to be in the hall, in my opinion. So do Gossage and Rice.
Quote from: Geowhizzer on January 09, 2007, 06:12:55 PM
288 wins gets you less than 23% of the vote.
287 wins gets you less than 48% of the vote.
Tommy John and Bert Blyleven each deserve to be in the hall, in my opinion. So do Gossage and Rice.
Tommy John because he had a surgery named after him and Blyleven because of this classic Bermanism: Bert 'Be home' Blyleven
Every day that Jack Morris stays out of the Hall is another reason to hate Baseball writers/fans/teams/players. Were any of these people alive during his career? Jesus.
Quote from: Die-Hard on January 09, 2007, 04:56:51 PM
Ripken and Gwynn in the Hall. No McGwire. Ha. Ha.
I'm so farging glad McGwire is out, too. They named a freaking highway after him here in St. Louis, then he retires and bailed on the town. When he was called in for the Final Busch Stadium season, he shows up, refuses to talk to reporters, and walks 6 feet into the field with his kid in his hand as a shield, waves and walks back in. Whoo-hoo.
Piece of shtein steroid abusing no good bastich.
Not only is he a cheat, he's a fricken rat too. (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070111/ap_on_sp_ba_ne/bbn_bonds_amphetamines)
Will someone please remind me why this guy continually gets a free pass and other players get barbequed for doing far less?
So he used steroids and amphetamines? I can totally see why he should hold the homerun record, what a piece of shtein. McGwire, Sosa, Bonds, Giambi, Palmeiro, Caminiti etc. should have every or any record they hold stricken from the record books.
I don't think Caminiti holds too many records. Maybe youngest former MVP to freak out and OD to death on drugs. But other than that, nothing too substantial.
Quote from: rjs246 on January 11, 2007, 03:35:54 PM
I don't think Caminiti holds too many records. Maybe youngest former MVP to freak out and OD to death on drugs. But other than that, nothing too substantial.
I was trying to show racial equality: White, Black, Black, White, Hispanic, White
Quote from: rjs246 on January 11, 2007, 03:35:54 PM
I don't think Caminiti holds too many records. Maybe youngest former MVP to freak out and OD to death on drugs.
i don't know about you, but i'll put that award on my mantle any day.
Quote from: Geowhizzer on December 29, 2006, 10:37:31 PM
Bobby Murcer has brain tumor removed. (http://msn.foxsports.com/other/story/6313982?CMP=OTC-K9B140813162&ATT=0)
Murcer's tumor was malignant (http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/6355364)
Barry issues apology, denial of involvement regarding Mark Sweeney. (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2728327)
It's amazing how many guys get caught up in the goings-on of that guy. How did Sweeney's name even get mentioned in the first place? Someone had to say something to someone. It's not as if the reporter pulled his name out of thin air.
Sad and strange. Gotta feel bad for the guy for having his name dragged through the slime.
Typical Barry, blame someone else.
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on January 12, 2007, 09:30:44 AM
Typical Barry, blame someone else.
um...this may be the one time he isnt doing that.
Yankee Stadium will host the 2008 All-Star Game in its final season. 2009 will be in the new Busch Stadium...