Have we signed this guy Mould yet?
duh, it's Mounds
Almond Joy's got nuts...
Quote from: Phanatic on March 31, 2006, 05:06:32 PM
Almond Joy's got nuts...
Welcome to 7 pages ago, or something like that.
Quote from: Phanatic on March 31, 2006, 05:06:32 PM
Almond Joy's got nuts...
... but can he go over the middle?
eddie george
golden cash over your preposterous nuts and your gay mom too
Saints | D. Stallworth discussed in trade talks
Sat, 1 Apr 2006 07:42:51 -0800
ESPN.com's Len Pasquarelli reports New Orleans Saints WR Donte' Stallworth has been discussed in trade talks.
Lions | C. Rogers discussed in trade talks
Sat, 1 Apr 2006 07:42:29 -0800
ESPN.com's Len Pasquarelli reports Detroit Lions WR Charles Rogers has been discussed in trade talks.
No thanks on Stallworth, Rogers though...could be intriguing...boys got some hands, and gets the good weed
I would have to say the exact opposite. No thanks on Rogers, but Stallworth is intriguing.
Why would the Saints trade him, though? It's not as if they have a wealth of talent at WR after him and Horn.
Quote from: FFatPatt on April 01, 2006, 11:03:01 AM
I would have to say the exact opposite. No thanks on Rogers, but Stallworth is intriguing.
Why would the Saints trade him, though? It's not as if they have a wealth of talent at WR after him and Horn.
good point, I just thought about him as a return specialist
The more I think about all factors involved, the more I could see the Eagles making some sort of move for Rogers.
And that made me throw up in my mouth a little.
Quote from: FFatPatt on April 01, 2006, 11:08:27 AM
The more I think about all factors involved, the more I could see the Eagles making some sort of move for Rogers.
And that made me throw up in my mouth a little.
The boy has some serious hands--but injury prone and discipline problems-will shy the Eagles away most likely
A definite yes on Stallworth, he's a player I never thought lived up to their potential. He's a burner and would instantly be a deep threat. Not opposed to Rogers either, always liked his size and speed and think he'd probably come cheap since he can't stay healthy.
Stallworth is a FA after the season that the Saints likely don't plan to resign so they are probably looking to get something for him now. Rogers would be worth a gamble imo, if he can stay healthy there might be something there. Personally I would rather see them at this point pick up a WR via the draft whether it is Moss, Jackson, or Stovall.
from PFT:
QuoteThe Eagles have re-signed WR Freddie Mitchell.
:-D :-D
I heart April Fools.
I like both of these guys coming out of college. Of the two I think Rogers is the most tallented. I wouldn't want him though he just can't stay on the field. Bringing in a guy like that is akin to still having Buck on the roster.
However, I still think Stallworth would be an upgrade over Pinky though.
Yeah, well, those risks sometimes pay off, ala Burgess.
Quote from: MadMarchHare on April 01, 2006, 04:38:57 PM
Yeah, well, those risks sometimes pay off, ala Burgess.
Now i'm pissed :boom
Sorry, Don. Maybe the thought that there's no chance Timmy Chang makes the roster will cheer you up?
Quote from: MadMarchHare on April 01, 2006, 05:43:46 PM
Sorry, Don. Maybe the thought that there's no chance Timmy Chang makes the roster will cheer you up?
If Timmy Chang makes the roster
I'll send you a box of the best chocolate covered macadamia nuts, a bag of the best coffee from Kauai, a six pack of the best Kona Brewing Co. Lager and maybe a bag of you know what. ;)
....this bores me. let's talk about chocolate bars again.
Quote from: Don Ho on April 01, 2006, 06:13:09 PM
Quote from: MadMarchHare on April 01, 2006, 05:43:46 PM
Sorry, Don. Maybe the thought that there's no chance Timmy Chang makes the roster will cheer you up?
If Timmy Chang makes the roster I'll send you a box of the best chocolate covered macadamia nuts, a bag of the best coffee from Kauai, a six pack of the best Kona Brewing Co. Lager and maybe a bag of you know what. ;)
Oh man, I want a bag of seashells too!
Quote from: FreakisaKearseWord on April 01, 2006, 06:28:40 PM
....this bores me. let's talk about chocolate bars again.
(http://www.maunaloa.com/images/choc_pantry_tin2_356_344.jpg)
All PM you my address. ;D
Mmmmm....macadamia nuts.
Moulds still wants to be an Eagle (http://eagles.scout.com/2/515667.html)
No, it's not an April Fool's joke.
from the bottom of the article linked above:
QuoteEagles coach Andy Reid backed off a comment he made at the scouting combine that he hoped to have a 50-50 run-pass balance next season after throwing the ball 620 times last season, the third most attempts in the league. "I don't want it to be like it was this past year," he said. "It was too much (passing). But I've always been around 58 percent throwing and that's where I'd like to keep it."
:boom :boom :boom :boom :boom
58/42 isn't a bad mix, IMO.
As long s it isn't 65/35 or 70/30 like it was last year, I"m cool.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 02, 2006, 12:11:54 PM
58/42 isn't a bad mix, IMO.
As long s it isn't 65/35 or 70/30 like it was last year, I"m cool.
Agreed
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 02, 2006, 12:11:54 PM
58/42 isn't a bad mix, IMO.
As long s it isn't 65/35 or 70/30 like it was last year, I"m cool.
Exactly my thoughts on that.
Quote from: FFatPatt on April 02, 2006, 11:57:50 AM
Moulds still wants to be an Eagle (http://eagles.scout.com/2/515667.html)
No, it's not an April Fool's joke.
Kind of suprising that the Eagles don't have any real interest in adding him, if that is the case I would think that drafting a WR in the 1st or 2nd must be a given.
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on April 02, 2006, 12:27:45 PM
Quote from: FFatPatt on April 02, 2006, 11:57:50 AM
Moulds still wants to be an Eagle (http://eagles.scout.com/2/515667.html)
No, it's not an April Fool's joke.
Kind of suprising that the Eagles don't have any real interest in adding him, if that is the case I would think that drafting a WR in the 1st or 2nd must be a given.
I'm on the Chad Jackson bandwagon.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 02, 2006, 12:11:54 PM
58/42 isn't a bad mix, IMO.
As long s it isn't 65/35 or 70/30 like it was last year, I"m cool.
Of course. But when Reid say's he wants "to keep it" at 58, I want to shout at him. He needs to get back to 58, not keep it at 58. And don't tell me "that's what he meant." The guy would throw 80% of the time if he knew he wouldn't be fired for doing so.
I'm not so concerned about the run/pass ratio as I am Reid trying to establish the run early. The biggest change in philosophy should come from him getting away from thinking he can still pass early, get a big lead, sit on it, then run the ball. That line of thinking works fine when you have an offense like we did in '04.
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on April 02, 2006, 12:27:45 PM
Quote from: FFatPatt on April 02, 2006, 11:57:50 AM
Moulds still wants to be an Eagle (http://eagles.scout.com/2/515667.html)
No, it's not an April Fool's joke.
Kind of suprising that the Eagles don't have any real interest in adding him, if that is the case I would think that drafting a WR in the 1st or 2nd must be a given.
...or trading for someone else.
Quote from: FFatPatt on April 02, 2006, 12:51:34 PM
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on April 02, 2006, 12:27:45 PM
Quote from: FFatPatt on April 02, 2006, 11:57:50 AM
Moulds still wants to be an Eagle (http://eagles.scout.com/2/515667.html)
No, it's not an April Fool's joke.
Kind of suprising that the Eagles don't have any real interest in adding him, if that is the case I would think that drafting a WR in the 1st or 2nd must be a given.
...or trading for someone else.
Personally, I would rather see them draft Stovall, Jackson, Moss, or Holmes. IMHO I think the Birds are about a year away from being Super Bowl contenders again so it would be better to draft someone that has some upside rather than trade for a guy that has a bunch of question marks.
Quote from: Diomedes on April 02, 2006, 12:41:46 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 02, 2006, 12:11:54 PM
58/42 isn't a bad mix, IMO.
As long s it isn't 65/35 or 70/30 like it was last year, I"m cool.
Of course. But when Reid say's he wants "to keep it" at 58, I want to shout at him. He needs to get back to 58, not keep it at 58. And don't tell me "that's what he meant." The guy would throw 80% of the time if he knew he wouldn't be fired for doing so.
He was referring to pre-2005, Dio.
In the papers this week he said he threw too much in 2005. So yes, regardless of whether you want to hear it or not, he meant pre-2005.
Whatever. Until Reid starts running the ball like a professional football coach should, he can suck it.
Quote from: Diomedes on April 02, 2006, 01:10:06 PM
Whatever. Until Reid starts running the ball like a professional football coach should, he can suck it.
Amen.
It means zero, but Eskin is on Sports Final and thinks there's a good chance Walker will be an Eagle but not until closer to the draft....
Quote from: Diomedes on April 02, 2006, 12:01:42 PM
from the bottom of the article linked above:
QuoteEagles coach Andy Reid backed off a comment he made at the scouting combine that he hoped to have a 50-50 run-pass balance next season after throwing the ball 620 times last season, the third most attempts in the league. "I don't want it to be like it was this past year," he said. "It was too much (passing). But I've always been around 58 percent throwing and that's where I'd like to keep it."
:boom :boom :boom :boom :boom
And I bet about half of that 42 percent will be on 3rd and longs... ;)
It's interesting the rumor won't go away. GB can say whatever they want, they have to know getting rid of Walker now before he's a problem is their best option. This makes for more drama come draft time.
Yeah. The reason people are saying the Eagles have no shot at Walker is because of the reports of Thompson saying they will not trade him. It had nothing to do with the Eagles' side. But, it's going to get to the point where they are going to have to deal him, because he won't be playing, so they might as well get something for him.
Quote from: BigEd76 on April 02, 2006, 11:59:44 PM
It means zero, but Eskin is on Sports Final and thinks there's a good chance Walker will be an Eagle but not until closer to the draft....
Could you really see him getting traded in the NFC, none-the-less the Eagles? I think Green Bay will work out a trade with Denver or maybe even NE because they would be foolish not to get something special for him. Why cut him and get squat?
Looking at past history, I don't see a more likely place for Walker to end up than in Philly.
That said, I think it's much more likely that the whole thing blows over and he plays out his contract in GB.
I doubt he ends back up in GB....the feud with Favre has been going on a long time now and he has burned his bridges...reposting:
QuoteTUESDAY, March 28, 2006, 12:20 p.m.
By Bob McGinn
Walker 'not coming back' to Packers
Green Bay - What part of no don't the Green Bay Packers understand?
That's what Charles Goldsmith, Javon Walker's stepfather, wanted to know when he emphatically stated in a telephone interview this morning with the Journal Sentinel that the wide receiver will not ever play for the team again.
No amount of money, the passage of time or the possible retirement of quarterback Brett Favre, his adversary, will change Walker's mind, according to Goldsmith. He told general manager Ted Thompson in a 30-minute conversation Jan. 20 that his stepson was through with the Packers, but based on recent published comments from Thompson and coach Mike McCarthy, Goldsmith detected hope within the organization that the situation could be rectified.
"I wish this could have worked out better but he's not coming back," Goldsmith said. "He has so much animosity regarding Green Bay, it's ridiculous."
Goldsmith and his wife, Bernita, were in Green Bay this morning working with a real-estate agent. He said Walker's home in Green Bay, which he purchased from former Packers defensive end Jamal Reynolds about two years ago, will be on the market by Wednesday.
Walker has one year remaining on his original five-year contract with the Packers at a base salary of $1.15 million. He underwent reconstructive knee surgery Oct. 7.
According to Goldsmith, Walker has spent the off-season back and forth between Houston and Tallahassee, Fla., where he was back attending classes at Florida State. Goldsmith said his stepson is ahead of schedule in his rehabilitation.
Thompson has denied a request by Walker's agent, Kennard McGuire, seeking permission to shop his client.
Yeah, I've read all the reports. I just don't see Green Bay giving in unless they can save some MAJOR face... meaning they get at LEAST a 3rd rounder in return. Now, I just don't see the Eagles giving up a 3rd rounder for a guy going into the last year of his deal and coming off a MAJOR injury. They'd rather wait it out, see if and when he shakes loose, and inquire about the situation then. Still he'd have to pass a physical with flying colors to get a contract anywhere near what he desires.
I'd love to see it. I really would. I just don't think it's worth hoping for.
Quote from: FFatPatt on April 03, 2006, 08:08:28 AM
Looking at past history, I don't see a more likely place for Walker to end up than in Philly.
That said, I think it's much more likely that the whole thing blows over and he plays out his contract in GB.
You mean play out or sit out his last year, because there is no way that guy dresses in those pitiful uniforms again.
Also, everyone keeps harping on his achilles injury but the guy is young, has great skills and will regain his strength. All I can say....Steve Smith....broke his F-in femur for christs sake. I dont know how he pulled that off.
A broken leg is easier to come back from than a ruptured achilles.
Quote from: reese125 on April 03, 2006, 08:33:22 AM
You mean play out or sit out his last year, because there is no way that guy dresses in those pitiful uniforms again.
Also, everyone keeps harping on his achilles injury but the guy is young, has great skills and will regain his strength. All I can say....Steve Smith....broke his F-in femur for christs sake. I dont know how he pulled that off.
Walker tore his right ACL and required reconstructive surgery. That's a lot different than a broken bone, because it never REALLY heals. Guys with torn ACL's are always a risky proposition. The initial outlook on his injury was anywhere from 6-12 months, so if he hasn't been diligent with his rehab, he might not even be ready for training camp, and certainly wouldn't be available to go out to Arizona with Donovan.
Quote from: FFatPatt on April 03, 2006, 08:37:59 AM
Quote from: reese125 on April 03, 2006, 08:33:22 AM
You mean play out or sit out his last year, because there is no way that guy dresses in those pitiful uniforms again.
Also, everyone keeps harping on his achilles injury but the guy is young, has great skills and will regain his strength. All I can say....Steve Smith....broke his F-in femur for christs sake. I dont know how he pulled that off.
Walker tore his right ACL and required reconstructive surgery. That's a lot different than a broken bone, because it never REALLY heals. Guys with torn ACL's are always a risky proposition. The initial outlook on his injury was anywhere from 6-12 months, so if he hasn't been diligent with his rehab, he might not even be ready for training camp, and certainly wouldn't be available to go out to Arizona with Donovan.
I made a mistake in saying he broke his femur when it was his fibula.....
who cares...what does steve smiths injury have to do with jwalks
as ive said her numerous times if you want walker for the future in hopes he heals and comes back as himself in 07 and beyond then its a nice move for the future...but dont expect much from him this year
I would be suprised if Walker came here, if he sticks to his guns he probably will get traded much the same way Keenan McCardell did during the beginning of the season.
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 03, 2006, 09:05:09 AM
who cares...what does steve smiths injury have to do with jwalks
as ive said her numerous times if you want walker for the future in hopes he heals and comes back as himself in 07 and beyond then its a nice move for the future...but dont expect much from him this year
I was just trying to compare it in terms of severity...both were bad. Smith also had severe ligament damage as well. Both players were out for the year so it doesnt matter. How do you figure 07? An ACL takes 12 weeks. Then you start rehab which is a grueling process. He will be back this year and do fine. The younger you are, the quicker you heal..and with the med equip/rehab process these players go through..piece of cake to heal properly. Your acting like this guy is going to be crippled for 2 years straight.
Oh...and hes not coming here to the Eagles...hahahah.
An ACL takes 12 weeks
try 12 months in his case...he will be able to play before then of course...but he wont be 100% until the 07 season
btw i never heard that steve smith tore ligaments
I think he meant 12 weeks before you can start rehabbing. Either way, it's generally accepted that players don't make a complete recovery until the 2nd season after the injury.
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 03, 2006, 09:45:03 AM
An ACL takes 12 weeks
try 12 months in his case...he will be able to play before then of course...but he wont be 100% until the 07 season
btw i never heard that steve smith tore ligaments
Clipped from: Charlotte Observer article by Tom Sorenson
WR Steve Smith is moving better than I've ever seen him. And I saw him before he broke his left fibula after running a route in the fourth quarter of the 2004 opener against Green Bay. He went down after an ugly tackle by former Panthers teammate Hannibal Navies, had surgery the next day and missed the rest of the season.
"I think about it a lot," Smith says about the play. "I dropped a pass (Monday) thinking about it. It was the same route. I just didn't catch it."
Smith also had ligament damage to his ankle. These were serious injuries. Nobody knew how he would respond. Nobody could. But we knew this: Smith did not become one of the league's best receivers, not at 5-foot-9, because he could run fast. He played with verve that made him a favorite of fans. He leaped over cornerbacks, caught balls over the middle. Talent can get a player into the league, but without guts and bravado, it won't get him to the top.
Something quick I just found....but I knew I heard he had other damage. It doesnt matter...beating a dead horse.
Just saying... Walker won't be 100% this year, and it's the last year of his contract. Trading for him, especially with a very high draft pick (1st or 2nd) reeks of desperation and is something AR would never resort to.
Quote from: FFatPatt on April 03, 2006, 10:37:22 AM
Just saying... Walker won't be 100% this year, and it's the last year of his contract. Trading for him, especially with a very high draft pick (1st or 2nd) reeks of desperation and is something AR would never resort to.
...after hearing his quotes from Orlando, he could care less about a #1 receiver. "As long as they run good routes and catch the ball..." bullshtein!
He must be beating off to NE's Bellicheck every night because here in Philly, that crap doesnt happen and never has. McNabb needs a #1 bottom line. To me, what he is saying is he's content and doesnt need change.
Well, your opinion is shared by many people and means precisely dick to Andy.
Quote from: FFatPatt on April 03, 2006, 11:05:05 AM
Well, your opinion is shared by many people and means precisely dick to Andy.
too true
http://www.zwire.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=16452870&BRD=1675&PAG=461&dept_id=18170&rfi=6
today's kinda slow...let's analyze mcnabb's comments:
QuoteMcNabb also knows the Eagles (6-10), who couldn't win a game in the NFC East last year after claiming four straight pennants, didn't make the offseason splash their contemporaries have.
While the Eagles privately think they're better off because they avoided losing players to free agency, their quarterback -- like the fan base -- is uneasy about the striking offseason additions around him.
"Well, I mean, it's somewhat frustrating at times when you're seeing other players that possibly could help you out joining other teams -- especially in your division," McNabb said. "But we have our nucleus here. We have our guys that we know that can go out on the field and make plays for us. I'm sure the draft is going to help us in so many ways, so we just have to take full advantage of it."
translation: cheepidy-cheep-Cheep-CHEEP!
Is it worth me even attempting to analyze them in a slightly more thought-out manner in hopes of striking up some sort of actual discussion with you, or would it be like playing tennis against a brick wall?
I'm going to guess the latter and allow you embrace your inner whiny bitch without being challenged. You owe me.
I'm sure the draft is going to help us in so many ways
really?
Quote from: FFatPatt on April 10, 2006, 11:57:13 AM
Is it worth me even attempting to analyze them in a slightly more thought-out manner in hopes of striking up some sort of actual discussion with you
no.
Hopefully Andy will read McNabb's comments and completely change his philosophy regarding free agency.
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 10, 2006, 11:59:52 AM
I'm sure the draft is going to help us in so many ways
link?
Stick with what got you this far, even if it's gey.
it's gey.
link?
Don't make me post the pictures Sun_Mo sent me of you two spooning before the Phillies game.
McNabb will be the next Ozzie Newsome - incapable of winning the Super Bowl as a player, but will win one as a front office guy. This much is obvious because of his innate genius in NFL personnel matters, right?
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on April 10, 2006, 12:12:45 PM
Hopefully Andy will read McNabb's comments and completely change his philosophy regarding free agency.
he definitely will.
Quote from: hunt on April 10, 2006, 12:18:54 PM
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on April 10, 2006, 12:12:45 PM
Hopefully Andy will read McNabb's comments and completely change his philosophy regarding free agency.
he definitely will.
No doubt in my mind, either. Go Birds.
Don't make me post the pictures Sun_Mo sent me of you two spooning before the Phillies game.
wow i must have been drunk...i dont remember a camera being there
Excellent deflection.
But seriously... my thoughts on McNabb are pretty much that he's not a smart guy at all. He's relatively well spoken, but deep down, he's just another idiot football player that couldn't even break 20 on the ridiculously easy Wonderlic. He is pretty much the last guy I'm going to listen to on personnel issues, despite the fact that he is the "leader" of the team and by far the most important player.
I'm not exactly thrilled/overwhelmed at what the Eagles have or haven't done so far, but there also are only a very small handful of players signed as FA's or traded to other teams that I would have taken at similar deals to what they got, and even half of them I'm unsure about.
Probably the two players I most thought the Eagles should have taken a look at that are now OFF the market are Rocky Bernard and Mack Strong, both now re-signed by the Seahawks.
What I do know is that the Eagles have at least addressed a lot MORE than they usually do in the off-season via FA, and there are still possibilities out there, however remote (Hunter Hillenmeyer, Javon Walker, etc) to improve the team by other routes than the draft alone.
Cant say for sure, but if you take a look at who was signed in the division it seems like McNabb really wanted Randle El to come to Philly. Dallas signed TO so it wasnt that. Giants didnt sign any offensive skill positions from other teams. Washing traded for Lloyd so im not sure that really counts as FA. Randle El is really the only guy.
Yep, I felt the same way about it, MURP. It seems like he would almost specifically HAVE to be talking about Randle-El.
Maybe he just wanted someone else to throw a few passes from time to time, because he gets too beat up dropping back 60 times a game...?? Just a theory.
randle-el & mcnabb have the same agent so i'm sure that's who he meant.
im sure hes not to thrilled about the blown opportunity to get a manbeast right in front of him every play
Quote from: hunt on April 10, 2006, 12:47:46 PM
randle-el & mcnabb have the same agent so i'm sure that's who he meant.
They are also both from Chicago, if that means anything.
just saw an interesting thread from last years FA period. Saints looking to trade Darren Howard (http://www.concretefield.com/forum/index.php?topic=14696.0)
Quote from: MURP on April 10, 2006, 02:35:53 PM
just saw an interesting thread from last years FA period. Saints looking to trade Darren Howard (http://www.concretefield.com/forum/index.php?topic=14696.0)
Yeah, he really threw up a stinker last year, so let's hope he's at least somewhere in between what we thought of post-2004 Darren Howard and post-2005 Darren Howard for the 2006 season.
Interesting stuff from McPherson's blog:
QuoteThis [Jasper] signing was out of left field for me. I simply knew there was going to be a press conference, and they never have a press conference for just the release of the schedule. What is Andy going to say? He'll have his usual, 'We're looking forward to the challenge ...' and the 'One game at a time ...' All of that good stuff.
I wonder if he would throw in an injuries (which is mandatory by the NFL) for old times sake.
At first, I thought it had to something to do with Javon Walker, but my guess was wrong.
I was really hoping that we traded Timmy Chang, Jeremy Caudill and Corey Peoples for Urrrrrrrrlllllllaaaaaaaaakkkkeeeeeeeeerrrrrrr and Moss. :-D
Speaking of Walker, I'm surprised no one suggested that we'll trade say Hollis Thomas and a pick for Walker. I know that's the 'noteworthy' news everyone is looking for.
QuoteI laughed when I saw how I would be burned at the fire with Mark Eckel if I started spreading bad rumors about who the Eagles were going to sign. Working at the NovaCare Complex, you get to hear things - not all things that I should be hearing - that most reporters won't get to hear.
That's why reporters depend on sources, usually agents. Everyone has 'em. But changes in the organization from a year-to-year basis could remove reporters' key sources. Eckel's boy was Marc Ross, who worked under Tom Modrak's regime. Once Ross left, Eckel has had to look elsewhere for his stories.
But there are times our own PR department will be caught by surprise. They found out about Jevon Kearse from the ticker on ESPN in 2004.
QuoteThe latest rumors I've heard are:
A) Eagles to sign Stephen Davis to a one-year deal.
B) Hollis Thomas and a third-round pick for Javon Walker.
Both are compliments of Howard Eskin and since he's boys with Coach Reid, there is probably some truth in there.
I would love for some news to break in the next few days because Spuds is on vacation in Canada and myself, along with Ryan McCann, are running the website. I admit it. I sat in Spuds' leather chair today. Felt comfy.
Anyways, Davis would be sweet because I think he would provide what Dorsey Levens did in 2004. A big back who can spell Brian Westbrook and Ryan Moats. Maybe you have sets where Westbrook can flex out and Davis comes in the backfield.
Very interesting, and with a one-year deal what would the Eagles have to lose. Plus, Davis wouldn't have to carry the load so he there wouldn't be the fear of wearing down.
Gargano mentioned Davis last night on Sports Final. hmmmmmmm
I'd love the signing of Davis.
Not sure he has much left, but he's better than Gordon.
... and Levens.
... and Mahe.
I would have no problem with them picking up Davis for a one-year deal, he would be the short yardage back they need and he would not come here wanting more carries than he is going to get.
Still, it baffles me why they didn't go after Mike Anderson. He made chump change. So it lead me to believe they had some bigger plan. That plan is to sign an inferior, older, slower, and more injuried, less-effective back than Anderson?
I simply don't get it.
Or more than the vet min.
Nevermind, I figured out why they want Davis over Anderson.
(http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/5222/cheap4gh.gif)
Interesting.
I am of the opinion that Davis' knees are mincemeat. But he is a tough goal line runner and can scrap for yards. The one year vet minimum would be cool with me.
That wold seal the departure of Reno even more than it is now. Which I think he'll be gone anyways and that Bruce Perry makes it even if we do get Davis.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 10, 2006, 06:03:35 PM
That wold seal the departure of Reno even more than it is now.
Dream on.
Stephen Davis an Eagle? Hmmm...
I'd definitely be on board if it were to happen. He's got next to nothing left but he can still pound for the short yards and maybe, just maybe... give us a running option in goal line situations other than the sprint out/shovel pass to the TE.
Davis for a season would be great, he'd be a role player and wouldn't have the heavy burden of carrying the offensive load. That, and he's a better option than Buck.
I'd rather have Duce back.
I doubt there's anyone that would disagree with that.
dont forget the sweep out to Westbrook. let Davis be Bettis for a year...Id welcome him with open arms. Do they let wheelchairs on on the field on 3rd and shorts?
Duce could never get the tough 3rd and 1's. I'd take Davis in a wheel chair over Duce in that situation.
I'd almost rather still with the shrimp backs we have, too. Davis is el finito.
Quote from: FFatPatt on April 10, 2006, 06:18:20 PM
I'd almost rather still with the shrimp backs we have, too. Davis is el finito.
el finito is finished in Spanish for anyone that doesnt know... ;)
...and in this case, "still" is FFish for "stick" also.
Davis is glue. MY knees are better than his.
Great.....now PFT.com is talking about McNabb's comments:
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POSTED 2:51 p.m. EDT, April 10, 2006
McNABB SOUNDING A LITTLE LIKE LORD FAVRE[/size]
An industry source pointed out to us on Monday morning recent comments from Eagles quarterback Donovan McNabb, which suggest that the leader of the franchise isn't thrilled with the team's lack of activity free agency.
"Well, I mean, it's somewhat frustrating at times, when you're seeing other players that possibly could help you out joining other teams," McNabb told Bob Grotz of the Daily Times of Delaware County, "especially in your division."
McNabb, in our view, sounds a little like Packers quarterback Brett Favre, who openly has been bemoaning the team's failure to improve itself through free agency as he supposedly wrestles with the decision as to whether he'll return for 2006. And words like that are a bit out of character for McNabb, who typically is the consummate company man.
The source who tipped us off to the story surmises that McNabb's comments are aimed at least in part at the failure of the Eagles to make a play for receiver Antwaan Randle El, who signed with the taterskins in the early days of free agency. McNabb, we're told, lobbied hard for the team to sign Randle El. Both players coincidentally are represented by agent Fletcher Smith.
McNabb's words also make us wonder about a few wild (we had assumed) rumors we'd heard earlier in the offseason that McNabb might want out of Philly. We could never develop anything concrete in this regard, but his most recent statements at least warrant careful watch of the entire situation, since this could be something that will escalate as time passes.
And as we've seen on various occasions over the past few years, a Pro Bowl player who sours on his team can find a way out of town no matter how many years are left on his deal.
McNabb is signed through 2013, with salaries that jump to $5.5 million in 2006, $6.3 million in 2008, $9.2 million in 2009, and $10 million in 2010. In the final year of his contract, McNabb is scheduled to make $16.21 million.
How set in stone is it that McNabb will play out that deal? Just ask the Vikings, who also had Daunte Culpepper signed through 2013.
What rumors that he wanted out of Philly? When? ???
What rumors that he wanted out of Philly? When? Huh
exactly, its called REEEEEEAAAAAAAACCCCCCCHHHHHIIIIIIIINNNG.
Let's trade Donovan to Green Bay for Javon Walker and the #5 overall pick, then trade the 5th rounder to Detroit for Joey Harrington and draft Mario Williams at #5. Obviously, having the Lions' top 2 QB's from last year equals Super Bowl. Obviously, obviously, obviously.
We're taking Jay Cutler at 14. No doubt. He'll be just like Rotherlarberger, but a year earlier.
Birds win the Bowl! Birds win the Bowl!
Patt?
so much for good football talk.
It doesn't all have to be *good*, thankfully. Otherwise, you'd probably be banned from this section of :CF.
Quote from: mussa on April 11, 2006, 12:09:10 AM
so much for good football talk.
take your tampon out mary.
if i call you an assbag, will you put together a collection of my greatest hits?
Stephen Davis is done, that would be a worthless move.
Duckett would be better, at least they'd have a young backfield moving forward, i'm sick of these one-year rent-a-players that have to learn the offense, and can only play if their specific package is in.
I would think that if they actually cared about goalline situations, they would have tried to add one of the relatively many available good FB's during the off-season... but they showed no interest in the likes of Mack Strong and Tony Richardson. Now, it's rumored they are looking in to adding a no-kneed old "big" back to run behind Parry or Tapeh?
Yuck.
getting davis on a 1 year rental would be better than not getting a big back at all...he'd be decent for 5-7 carries per game, including short yardage/goal line of course.
Stephen Davis or Thomas Tapeh... hmmm... let me think for a minute...
j wells kicko
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on April 11, 2006, 11:01:13 AM
Stephen Davis or Thomas Tapeh... hmmm... let me think for a minute...
Fred Barnett or Freddie Mitchell?
chris carter
Quote from: Sun_Mo on April 11, 2006, 10:37:33 AM
Stephen Davis is done, that would be a worthless move.
Duckett would be better, at least they'd have a young backfield moving forward, i'm sick of these one-year rent-a-players that have to learn the offense, and can only play if their specific package is in.
get used to it in Reids system. when a fulllback comes in, its just for that reason. if Davis does have injury woes but can still do the job, thats all Reid cares about, "Davis....he did a good job in there..times yours"
that's my point though, if they signed a long term "big back" he could learn the whole offense and be out there for any play, pass or run. but as they do things now, Davis would be signed, not do much for the 1st 6 weeks of season while he learned "the system", with exception to his specific and predictable package. then, by the time he learned the system at a level that he could actually stay on the field, the season is almost over and they are ready to sign another guy because the guy they just had didn't quite do what they wanted.
rinse and repeat as necessary.
So who do the Eagles sign in October when Davis is done for the season?
Buckhalter plays the next week
then they sign Levens the week after that when Buckhalter gets hurt
if reid really wants to run more, they'll look for more of a long-term solution...wells or duckett would be ideal. if he's just looking to plug a hole, davis is your man.
carolina made the mistake of running davis 17-18 times a game last season & he wound up getting injured again...he's certainly not my first choice to fill the "big back" role but i'd rather have him than rely on tapeh or have no big back at all.
Quote from: Sun_Mo on April 11, 2006, 11:15:07 AM
that's my point though, if they signed a long term "big back" he could learn the whole offense and be out there for any play, pass or run. but as they do things now, Davis would be signed, not do much for the 1st 6 weeks of season while he learned "the system", with exception to his specific and predictable package. then, by the time he learned the system at a level that he could actually stay on the field, the season is almost over and they are ready to sign another guy because the guy they just had didn't quite do what they wanted.
rinse and repeat as necessary.
In a perfect world Mo, yes., that would be nice. but its obvious the eagles love the vet minimum because these guys dont have to "learn the system", especially when they are harldy used. works out better for eagles because it doesnt tie them in long term and they get what they want as far as production at the same time. Your system works for a KC, Minny or Bengals
I know what your saying though...I wish they would switch it up myself
QuoteAnyways, Davis.... A big back who can spell Brian Westbrook and Ryan Moats.
would it be a written test, or does he have to stand up in the auditorium and do it?
"Brian Westbrook... B-R-Y-A-N-T... D'oh!"
FYI: Dirk Johnson is visiting with the Ravens today. I don't think anyone mentioned that.
DAMMIT!!!
less guys named dirk on your team = a good thing
Quote from: FFatPatt on April 11, 2006, 12:50:58 PM
Anyway, back on topic... I really don't know what the Eagles would do at the Punter position if they lost Dirk. They certainly had issues there last year, and the last thing we need to see is more Reggie Hodges or Mark Mariscal.
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Relax, kiddo.
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Landeta was a good punter 5 years ago... even better 20 years ago, but UGH.
I guess they could always draft that Plackemeyer (sp?) kid from Wake Forest in the late rounds.
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 11, 2006, 12:59:48 PM
ill mock you for making an internet message board football hieracrchy based on the thinking that you easy and phreak know anything more about quality football content than me sun or mussa or even romey...well that might be taking it a tad far...but the moral of the story is just settle down and keep your head up at the point of attack
You're reaching, IGY.
Quote from: FFatPatt on April 11, 2006, 12:55:48 PM
Landeta was a good punter 5 years ago... even better 20 years ago, but UGH.
Landeta is TIMELESS!! Damn... Do you even watch football?!?!!?!?!11!?
You're reaching, IGY.
i SAID probably NOT romey
Update:
- McNabb feels the Eagles have left some moves that would help the team on the table in this free agency period.
Landeta Dirk (whoops) is visiting with the Ravens.- There are rumors that the Eagles might bring in Stephen Davis for a one-year deal.
update (cont.)
--you can only talk about so many eagle points w/out beating a dead mule
--were all bored at work (some not working at all) and rely on sarcasim and humor to get by
--forums are chat rooms
--fire away
Quote from: reese125 on April 11, 2006, 01:39:02 PM
update (cont.)
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If you're all going to act like bitches and not step away from your keyboards when you really need to, we'll be more than happy to help you out. All you gotta do is ask.
update:
-reese busts his cherry with his first quality concrete post
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 11, 2006, 01:43:03 PM
update:
-reese busts his cherry with his first quality concrete post
dont make me go back and dig up 5 quality posts IGY, cause I'll do it you know.... ;D
Update (cont.)
[li]Reese, if you didn't know how to make the little dots, all you had to do was ask.[/li]
But seriously, I think we might be underrating the importance of the punter position. I don't want some NFL Europe reject as the Eagles primary punter in 2006, especially because I see the team needing to use the punter plenty.
I agree... but given the given the garbage they trotted out at Punter outside of Dirk last year, I'd have to think that the Eagles value him somewhat and won't let him slip out if he gets an offer.
I read about you worrying about some "poison pill" thing with him, what kind of thing could you see happening that would make it hard for the Eagles to match?
i refuse to even acknowledge the punter position until training camp...with the draft coming up and free agency still on there are plenty of other areas to worry about first
Quote from: EagleFeva on April 11, 2006, 01:52:07 PM
I read about you worrying about some "poison pill" thing with him, what kind of thing could you see happening that would make it hard for the Eagles to match?
Easy... the Ravens could say that if he plays more than 3 games in the state of Pennsylvania in any season, he must be the highest paid kicking specialist on the team, and his whole contract must be guaranteed. Something like that.
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 11, 2006, 01:54:44 PM
i refuse to even acknowledge the punter position until training camp...with the draft coming up and free agency still on there are plenty of other areas to worry about first
You're on the record now. When the season rolls around, and the Eagles have problems with punting, you won't be able to use it as an excuse.
trust me im much more worried about them going into the season with greg lewis as a top 3 wr...ryan moats at the back-up rb spot....and dhani playing at all...
the difference btwn dirk johnson and whatever punter they could sign right now is minimal at best and certainly not worth my concern...i expect to have three punters in training camp and have the best one be the opening day starter...
IGY, if you even mention the word punting again or type the word....Im tellin
When that same punter fumbles a slightly high snap and costs the Eagles the game in Houston, you'll change your tune.
Patt, surely your not that concerned with the punter...I mean..seriously, do you have high-snap fumble nightmares..cmon?
may the best punter win...only a few teams that have solid punters anyway
Thing is... with a healthy Dirk Johnson the Eagles are one of them.
You can't underestimate the importance of the punter... especially with what you saw out there last season.
The punter is only important when he is not good.
Put it this way do want a team to start out on the 15-20 yard line or the 30-40 yard line, that is how important a punter is. When a team gets a first down or two with good field position they are already in scoring positon, if the same happens inside the 20 they are going to be punting themselves. I agree with FF on this the importance of a punter cannot be overlooked.
IGY plans on doing the punting next season.
Quote from: EagleFeva on April 11, 2006, 02:18:13 PM
Thing is... with a healthy Dirk Johnson the Eagles are one of them.
You can't underestimate the importance of the punter... especially with what you saw out there last season.
oh, I know they are important. field position is everything. but punters avg.'s in the league are marginal at like 2-3 yards. I dont picket for punters outside the Novacare Complex...only WR's.
It's not only about the punting average, reese. It's about hang-time and placement.
Quote from: FFatPatt on April 11, 2006, 02:27:36 PM
It's not only about the punting average, reese. It's about hang-time and placement.
understood buddy...but when all is said and done there are only 2 punters that seperate themselves from the pack, and that was Hanson (Jac) and Harris(Det) with punts inside the 20. The rest, like I said are right there behind them
Quote from: reese125 on April 11, 2006, 02:33:10 PM
The rest, like I said are right there behind them
Not the jokers the Eagles were trotting out last year.
if the eagles get a wr and a big back they will be punting a lot less
if you think resigning dirk johnson is the difference btwn the playoffs and not the playoffs then more power to you...i happen not to think that...the difference btwn the worst punter in the nfl and the best is so miniscule worrying about it on april 11 is beyond ridiculous
could always improve the defense too and then the 2.3 yard difference btwn dirk and whoever the new punter is wont matter as much
Well, the team had closer to a 10-15 yard difference last year. That's significant.
A contract for a punter that the Eagles can't match. Wow.
Quote from: General_Failure on April 11, 2006, 04:06:15 PM
A contract for a punter that the Eagles can't match. Wow.
The Vikings and Seahawks have set the blueprint. Until the NFL cracks down on some of the ridiculousness that they're putting in the offer sheets for RFA's, teams will continue to structure them as such if they really want the player.
lol @ someone wanting dirk johnson that badly
It's not a matter of wanting him "badly", but if they do in fact want to sign him, why wouldn't they shield themselves from the other team matching the deal, now that it's been proven so easy to do? This is only more likely, because the Ravens would have to give up no compensation at all if the Eagles didn't match.
This is the thing I don't get about RFA, etc. Say the Ravens over him a nice deal, no poison pills, and the Eagles match it. Can the Ravens make another offer? If not, can another team make an offer?
How about a clause that if your head coach is fatter than Andy, then you have the entire contract guaranteed.
Eagles could screw over some teams with that clause.
Quote from: PhillyPhaninDC on April 11, 2006, 04:17:50 PM
This is the thing I don't get about RFA, etc. Say the Ravens over him a nice deal, no poison pills, and the Eagles match it. Can the Ravens make another offer? If not, can another team make an offer?
Nope. Dirk would have to agree to the Ravens deal and sign the offer sheet. Then, if the Eagles match the deal, his offer sheet with the Ravens becomes his contract with the Eagles. If not, it becomes his contract with the Ravens.
Quote from: FFatPatt on April 11, 2006, 04:21:39 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhaninDC on April 11, 2006, 04:17:50 PM
This is the thing I don't get about RFA, etc. Say the Ravens over him a nice deal, no poison pills, and the Eagles match it. Can the Ravens make another offer? If not, can another team make an offer?
Nope. Dirk would have to agree to the Ravens deal and sign the offer sheet. Then, if the Eagles match the deal, his offer sheet with the Ravens becomes his contract with the Eagles. If not, it becomes his contract with the Ravens.
Patt...do u like football?
Quote from: FFatPatt on April 11, 2006, 04:21:39 PM
Nope. Dirk would have to agree to the Ravens deal and sign the offer sheet. Then, if the Eagles match the deal, his offer sheet with the Ravens becomes his contract with the Eagles. If not, it becomes his contract with the Ravens.
Thank you. Good day sir.
How about a clause that if your head coach is fatter than Andy, then you have the entire contract guaranteed.
lol
btw nothing like good old fashioned bidding war complete with tricky contract verbage for DIRK FRIGGIN JOHNSON
the nfl is out of control
Quote from: reese125 on April 11, 2006, 04:27:29 PM
Quote from: FFatPatt on April 11, 2006, 04:21:39 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhaninDC on April 11, 2006, 04:17:50 PM
This is the thing I don't get about RFA, etc. Say the Ravens over him a nice deal, no poison pills, and the Eagles match it. Can the Ravens make another offer? If not, can another team make an offer?
Nope. Dirk would have to agree to the Ravens deal and sign the offer sheet. Then, if the Eagles match the deal, his offer sheet with the Ravens becomes his contract with the Eagles. If not, it becomes his contract with the Ravens.
Patt...do u like football?
i dont know why, but that made me laugh
they should've franchised him, then this wouldn't be an issue
QuoteThe Eagles added 32-year-old Rory Segrest to their coaching staff. Segrest will replace Ted Daisher as special-teams quality control coach. Daisher left to become the special teams coach in Oakland. Segrest coached last season at Samford, but formerly worked at Auburn with the Eagles' new defensive line coach, Pete Jenkins.
please give me the definition of quality control coach?
they chart and study numbers and stats...and then report their findings to the coaches
Quote from: reese125 on April 12, 2006, 08:31:25 AM
please give me the definition of quality control coach?
Someone has to make sure the Gatorade stays cold and the jocks aren't scratchy.
I think ..... and I'm sure I'll be corrected if this isn't right ..... they do the filming during practice/games, that the team uses for evaluation later in the week.
Someone has to make sure the Gatorade stays cold and the jocks aren't scratchy
and to make sure andys tony luke IV stays filled with roast pork
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 12, 2006, 08:38:40 AM
they chart and study numbers and stats...and then report their findings to the coaches
hes got alot of work to do to find any good numbers from last year......GET TO WORK SEGREST
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 12, 2006, 08:42:01 AM
Someone has to make sure the Gatorade stays cold and the jocks aren't scratchy
and to make sure andys tony luke IV stays filled with roast pork
I thought that was Reno's job.
reno brings the crab fry shakes to wash everything down
yeah right, they don't let the hosts handle the food, it's too complicated.
Crab fries... :drool
they are fine to me....but i never understood the infatuation with chickie and petes crab fries...as if they were some super top secret recipe that chickie & petes invented...and they are the only place in the world to find them
i mean they are french fries with old bay on them...i just never got it?
The cheese sauce is pretty farging good, too. I don't think it's just melted Velveeta or some shtein.
yeah the cheese is good...but even there i prefer the melted chedder that pats uses...now pats cheese fries...those are off the charts good
The Eagles could and should use any of these methods to lure free agents.
Does anyone think that if they'd had the chance to take LeCharles Bentley to Pat's that there is any chance whatsoever he would have signed with Cleveland? I'd contend not.
i have a local pizza joint that i get mozzerella cheese fries from, they absolutely drown the fries in the mozzerella, it's good times.
does cleveland even have a food its known for
Does anyone think that if they'd had the chance to take LeCharles Bentley to Pat's that there is any chance whatsoever he would have signed with Cleveland? I'd contend not.
A full day on the $hteinter and toliet sores after Pats' cheese fries....no question he goes to Cleveland
Quote from: SD_Eagle on April 12, 2006, 09:44:48 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 12, 2006, 09:32:07 AM
does cleveland even have a food its known for
Steamers
Ha! Winner.
But that is incredibly accurate... LeCharles would think the next day's mud butt would be a small price to pay after downing a whiz wit.
Quote from: FFatPatt on April 12, 2006, 09:47:50 AM
Quote from: SD_Eagle on April 12, 2006, 09:44:48 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 12, 2006, 09:32:07 AM
does cleveland even have a food its known for
Steamers
Ha! Winner.
But that is incredibly accurate... LeCharles would think the next day's mud butt would be a small price to pay after downing a whiz wit.
:drool
It's a shame Chickie's & Pete's, for some reason, can't put together a decent cheesesteak, BTW.
Anyway... back on topic... No word on the Dirk Johnson situation.
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 12, 2006, 09:32:07 AM
does cleveland even have a food its known for
Miller Lite in plastic bottles.
Banner is going to be on with Eskin at around 4 or 4:30. I'm not going to listen because everyone is going to call up and ask
HEY JOE R WE GETTING JAVON WALKER?!?!?!?!
Then he'll say we haven't really had talks with him.
and everyone will be like NO DAMMIT THE EAGLES R CHEAP THEY NEVER WANT ANYBODY!!
When obviously he can't tell his plans on the air.
Listening to Eagles fans call a radio program may be the most excruciatingly painful thing one can endure.
Quote from: Philly Forever on April 12, 2006, 03:40:55 PM
Banner is going to be on with Eskin at around 4 or 4:30. I'm not going to listen because everyone is going to call up and ask
HEY JOE R WE GETTING JAVON WALKER?!?!?!?!
Then he'll say we haven't really had talks with him.
and everyone will be like NO DAMMIT THE EAGLES R CHEAP THEY NEVER WANT ANYBODY!!
When obviously he can't tell his plans on the air.
Howard's already scolding people warning them not to call in and ask questions like "Hey Joe, who are the Eagles gonna pick first?". I'm tempted to call in and ask "Hey Joe, who are the Eagles gonna draft in the sixth round?" just to get Howard all worked up.
That is if you want to call them fans. I've heard people say they are going to buy a dallas TO jersey and wear it this year, because the Eagles screwed him.
... something like that.
I'm sure the Banner interview will be enlightening and provide us all with a lot of new information.
Quote from: Don Ho on April 12, 2006, 03:49:37 PM
Quote from: Philly Forever on April 12, 2006, 03:40:55 PM
Banner is going to be on with Eskin at around 4 or 4:30. I'm not going to listen because everyone is going to call up and ask
HEY JOE R WE GETTING JAVON WALKER?!?!?!?!
Then he'll say we haven't really had talks with him.
and everyone will be like NO DAMMIT THE EAGLES R CHEAP THEY NEVER WANT ANYBODY!!
When obviously he can't tell his plans on the air.
Howard's already scolding people warning them not to call in and ask questions like "Hey Joe, who are the Eagles gonna pick first?". I'm tempted to call in and ask "Hey Joe, who are the Eagles gonna draft in the sixth round?" just to get Howard all worked up.
Hey, Joe, what's the latest on the Urlacher front?
banner crying poor
saying they have the most stadium debt in the nfl and that lurie lost a ton of money keeping the team in philly
this is why he should never talk, ever.
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 12, 2006, 04:54:02 PM
banner crying poor
saying they have the most stadium debt in the nfl and that lurie lost a ton of money keeping the team in philly
Waaaahhh...whatever Joe, I'm not buying that for a second.
Stadium debt... :-D
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Stop it Joe..please stop moving your mouth
JW...love it Howard
what an amazingly off topic answer he gave to the 'has TO been adequetely replaced' question
Quote from: reese125 on April 12, 2006, 05:04:27 PM
JW...love it Howard
Please don't assume we're actually listening to WIP and instead give us more details.
my bad bud, Howard was pretty blunt to the fact in asking Banner if we have an interest in Walker and Banner gave why he couldnt elaborate. Banner gave him a "competitve advantage" reason with other teams, he wont reveal their plans and if any player can help the team out at any position, they will take a strong look at them..blah blah blah
Howard then asked him again, "why not?" The info's already out there about Walker....how do we value 3rd rounders, what would we give up for him? Banner acted clueless like he didnt understand the question and he doesnt handle that type of stuff, again...blah, blah, blah.
I like the fact that Howard beared down on him and tried to at least get a solid answer, rather than dance around it like Tony Manero. Nothing new that we dont already know about this drawn out topic
Howard just asked about Arrington, and the signing bonus hes asking for...Banner danced like Manero and didnt answer
OMG!!11! NOOOO
BANNAR DIDN'T SAY HE WANTED WALKUR, NOW WE WON'T GET HIIIM!!1111!
IGY,
You kind of took what he said out of context and made it sound like he was speaking solely about the stadium and how they have no money. Not true at all. What he said was, and he used the stadium as an example, was in response to the Eagles being cheap. Someone asked if they were cheap and he broke down the. He said they could've gotten a better deal in S. Jersey on in one of the Philadelphia suburbs but not that they ever thought about it or it was ever an option. He said that Jeff Lurie put up $350M of his own money and that the Eagles were still the 4th highest revenue team and also a team in the upper echelon of profits despite having the biggest stadium debt in the NFL.
He was responding to a question. And I thought the interview was rather good. It lasted a long time. I listened for about an hour and he was still on when I got home. So I didn't hear the end of it.
But I did hear him say there was no interest in Stephen Davis.
He also said that the reason behind the Runyan pay cut was that they had some plans that they were thinking could get done in free agency and extensions and they thought they would need that money. He said in hindsight it obviously didn't pan out (he didn't say what player they failed to land or the extension that didn't get done) but my guess on the extension was either Rod Hood, LJ Smith and the best guess is Mike Lewis.
Eskin was trying to get him to comment on Walker but he wouldn't because of the tampering issue. But he did say that if a situation came up to get a stud player they would certainly look at it. And it is up to Andy and Tom to decide if they want that guy. They will tell them who they are targeting and then Joe will go research the money aspect of the deal and compare what players comparable to that player grade the Eagles gave him are making and then provide the info to Andy and TOm for a final decision.
He also suggested that since the fans won;t be able to throw snowballs at TO then they should use caramel pop corn because it is able to be thrown farther than regular (in response to Eskin asking Joe if he has his popcorn ready for TO).
One other thing he said about TO -- he said (and some of us did this when TO signed w/ Dallas) that if you look at the money he signed for in Dallas and compared it to what he would've made in Year 1, year 2 and year 3 in his Eagles deal and he would've made more here. He lost $4M in supension last year and would've been paid around $8M this year - so money was obviously not his only problem since he proclaims he is happy with the Dallas contract. But it just goes to show how irrational the guy is.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 12, 2006, 06:37:55 PM
IGY,
You kind of took what he said out of context
really...is that a surprise at all?
when i heard banner would be on...i decided to tune in. and i though banner answered questions well enough. for once he did not stick his foot in his mouth.
however, you can take any one of two dozen statements made, forget the context, and shtein on the guy and the front office...and that is just what some will do.
he did dance around some questions, but he's not going to go and divulge everything.
you wont here the same people cry about his comments say that one thing banner DID say, that ultimately, every season has been a failure because they have not won a superbowl.
QuoteCHARGERS, FINS SWAP FORMER FIRST-ROUNDERS
We reported earlier on Wednesday that the Chargers were shopping cornerback Sammy Davis, a 2003 first-round selection of the team.
It didn't take them long to find a suitor.
San Diego has shipped Davis to San Francisco for 49ers receiver Rashaun Woods, a 2004 first-rounder.
The Chargers also are trying to move linebacker Donnie Edwards and safety Hanik Milligan.
This is what I was referring to in the Tracker in the ATNFL forum about the Chargers dealing Davis and looking to deal Edwards.
I would LOVE Donnie Edwards here. He's older (33) and he's also 227 pounds (which goes against those of you who believe that small LBs don't exist in the NFL and can be successful) but he is one of, if not the most underrated LBs in the NFL.
He could play SAM.
Give them a 4th and a player.
Quote from: reese125 on April 12, 2006, 05:37:53 PM
my bad bud, Howard was pretty blunt to the fact in asking Banner if we have an interest in Walker and Banner gave why he couldnt elaborate. Banner gave him a "competitve advantage" reason with other teams, he wont reveal their plans and if any player can help the team out at any position, they will take a strong look at them..blah blah blah
Howard then asked him again, "why not?" The info's already out there about Walker....how do we value 3rd rounders, what would we give up for him? Banner acted clueless like he didnt understand the question and he doesnt handle that type of stuff, again...blah, blah, blah.
I like the fact that Howard beared down on him and tried to at least get a solid answer, rather than dance around it like Tony Manero. Nothing new that we dont already know about this drawn out topic
Does this mean we are getting Urlacher? :paranoid
thanks for the interview info Phreak.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 12, 2006, 10:09:38 PM
QuoteCHARGERS, FINS SWAP FORMER FIRST-ROUNDERS
We reported earlier on Wednesday that the Chargers were shopping cornerback Sammy Davis, a 2003 first-round selection of the team.
It didn't take them long to find a suitor.
San Diego has shipped Davis to San Francisco for 49ers receiver Rashaun Woods, a 2004 first-rounder.
The Chargers also are trying to move linebacker Donnie Edwards and safety Hanik Milligan.
This is what I was referring to in the Tracker in the ATNFL forum about the Chargers dealing Davis and looking to deal Edwards.
I would LOVE Donnie Edwards here. He's older (33) and he's also 227 pounds (which goes against those of you who believe that small LBs don't exist in the NFL and can be successful) but he is one of, if not the most underrated LBs in the NFL.
He could play SAM.
Give them a 4th and a player.
Donnie Edwards is a bad ass that would bring the attitude back to this D.
I remember being so high on Rashan Woods and praying the birds would draft him back in 04. Hasn't done squat to date.
I felt the same way about Woods coming out of OK State, but he also hasnt had a QB since he was drafted.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 12, 2006, 10:09:38 PM
QuoteCHARGERS, FINS SWAP FORMER FIRST-ROUNDERS
We reported earlier on Wednesday that the Chargers were shopping cornerback Sammy Davis, a 2003 first-round selection of the team.
It didn't take them long to find a suitor.
San Diego has shipped Davis to San Francisco for 49ers receiver Rashaun Woods, a 2004 first-rounder.
The Chargers also are trying to move linebacker Donnie Edwards and safety Hanik Milligan.
FINS = 49ers?
Also, did anyone else put together that both Davis and Woods were taken with 1st round picks the Eagles originally owned and used to trade up for McDougle and Andrews, respectively? What are the odds of that?
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on April 13, 2006, 07:00:11 AM
I felt the same way about Woods coming out of OK State, but he also hasnt had a QB since he was drafted.
now he goes to Phillip Rivers (a true unknown)---huge upgrade for him--I wish him luck
http://www.startrekfans.net/video/Jabar.wmv
here is a 9.5 min highlight of soon-to-be All Pro with the Eagles ;) Jabar Gaffney. Its worth the download because its gives you a good indication of how he can be used in this offense. Although there are alot of routine hitch plays, 5 and outs, and not alot of YAC (which is probably based on the defenses playing shallow due to the bad OL in Houston), he does have a knack for getting behind the defenders--especially against some good defenses in INDY and Seattle. He does fall down alot after the catch, but so does Holt, Bruce and Harrison. The boy does have some very good hands, which Reid should utilize him for in the slot alot.
that might be the most pathetic highlight reel i've ever seen.
lol @ murp
is it the same one someone posted here after he signed?
that end around against the Titans was amazing though. I can see why it made the highlight reel. Looks like we have our gadget guy.
MURP, if you can't get excited about an end around for a 1 yard loss in April, when can you get excited about i?
possibly May.
Just watched the highlight reel MURP... :-D...unexciting is what comes to mind. A musicless reel. Anyways....I almost threw up what I had thrown up in my mouth after hearing "...if you give this kid some time" when referring to Carr twice or any other god damned QB in the NFL for that matter. NO shtein!
What are you guys talking about? He caught every pass thrown to him in that reel. Every one!
The guy's money.
by that video you would think the Texans playbook looks something like the original Tecmo Bowl where pressing "UP" and "A" would allow you to execute a QB rollout for a 5 yard pass. what an awesome play to repeat.
cap boso
respect it
I was incorrect when saying "highlight" reel. It was "game footage" used to show you he can catch the ball while in traffic, which alot of gator arm Eagles receivers cant do, and gets open pretty damn easy.
Oh, and he only catches pretty much everything thrown to him....but whats the benefit to that?
by that video you would think the Texans playbook looks something like the original Tecmo Bowl where pressing "UP" and "A" would allow you to execute a QB rollout for a 5 yard pass. what an awesome play to repeat.
That play you talk about is ran by the Eagles a dozen times a game--better have someone that can catch it consistently huh?
why are you so offended by some jokes made about that stupid highlight reel Reese? did you make it?
Quote from: MURP on April 13, 2006, 11:42:16 AM
that end around against the Titans was amazing though. I can see why it made the highlight reel. Looks like we have our gadget guy.
You think AR will still use him in a "trap" game?
took me friggin 3 months to put that thing together, with the production team and equipment that was involved. It was hard work, and I did it for you guys. You obviously know Im kidding, and I personally really dont care MURP. It might sound that way, but please....I'd be the first one to bust.
I do see this guy making some great possesion plays for us...no question. He will be McNabbs favorite bail out player, he always has one.
nothing like your bail out possesion guy being your #2 wr
Quote from: reese125 on April 13, 2006, 03:02:37 PM
I do see this guy making some great possesion plays for us...no question.
I do agree.
QuoteHe will be McNabbs favorite bail out player
I dont agree. Other than TO, what WR was McNabbs bail out player?
what do u mean? Walker, Brown + Gaffney. Gaffney being the bail out
Quote from: MURP on April 13, 2006, 03:05:10 PM
Quote from: reese125 on April 13, 2006, 03:02:37 PM
I do see this guy making some great possesion plays for us...no question.
I do agree.
QuoteHe will be McNabbs favorite bail out player
I dont agree. Other than TO, what WR was McNabbs bail out player?
Freddie Mitchell
:-D
Freddie Mitchell was lucky if McNabb even looked his way most of the time. I couldnt even begin to count the number of times where I saw Freddie Mitchell was wide open waving his arms in the air and McNabb didnt throw his way. We have heard that it was because the route he ran wasnt even close to what was called... either way it doesnt matter.
and please dont hold me hostage on the "bail out" term MURP---I was referring to it as he could be because of his hands and ability to get open
Quote from: reese125 on April 13, 2006, 03:02:37 PM
Freddie Mitchell
On two memorable occasions, and that's about it.
It was Chad Lewis, then Westbrook, then T.O., now it will be Westbrook or L.J.
Quote from: FFatPatt on April 13, 2006, 03:10:22 PM
It was Chad Lewis, then Westbrook, then T.O., now it will be Westbrook or L.J.
This will be a super awesome season. Dump it off to the back, or throw it to Butterfingers.
Hey.... L.J. will make most of the catches. He holds on just enough for it to be a fumble instead of an incomplete pass.
I love when LJ runs with the ball way out from his body after he makes a catch. Teaches the young players proper technique. I hope he never changes that
i love when perception becomes unarguable fact.
guy on the radio...i havent caught exactly who it is but he used to work with the eagles special teams and is still close to dirk johnson said that dirk is going to sign his tender in the next week
Anyone else a little concerned that both the Rams and Ravens had a look at him, and neither thought it was worth pursuing an offer sheet? Maybe the Eagles will use a 6th rounder on Plackemeyer.
Eagles | Spach vying for playing time at FB
Tue, 18 Apr 2006 15:00:59 -0700
Dave Spadaro, of PhiladelphiaEagles.com, reports the Philadelphia Eagles TE/FB Stephen Spach is the dark horse candidate at fullback, as he converted from tight end to fullback last season and has yet to fully learn the position.
Well, our FB situation is solved. Thank god, I was really worried. Were gold
IGY, you're probably talking about Randy Brown. He used to be on Cataldi's shows all the time. Then he was an assistant with Harbaugh for the last couple of years.
And I don't care about the Rams and Ravens not signing him to a sheet. I'm glad they didn't. He's punted well here.
As for Spach as a FB,
I've been saying he should've been a FB since last year in training camp. I saw him play some FB there at Lehigh and he was opening holes pretty good. And when they re-signed Chad last year I thought Spach should've been moved to starting FB to see what he could do.
It all goes back to the Anyone But Parry equasion. Spach, Tapeh, Tom Rathman now, Tony Four Fingers in section 131..I don't care.
Quote from: FFatPatt on April 18, 2006, 08:42:00 AM
Anyone else a little concerned that both the Rams and Ravens had a look at him, and neither thought it was worth pursuing an offer sheet? Maybe the Eagles will use a 6th rounder on Plackemeyer.
Plackemeir is a monster. Attending Wake Forest, he and Barclay were the only reasons to watch the games. He has unreal distance and hangtime, and can kickoff as well.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 18, 2006, 06:51:01 PM
It all goes back to the Anyone But Parry equasion. Spach, Tapeh, Tom Rathman now, Tony Four Fingers in section 131..I don't care.
Jack Nicholson now, or 1974?
I think we'll see Spach in an H back type role a lot this season. Although I'm not exactly sure how everything will fit.
Quote from: pinoyboy2pt0 on April 19, 2006, 02:26:38 AM
I think we'll see Spach in an H back type role a lot this season. Although I'm not exactly sure how everything will fit.
Unless Spach can also be the primary (only) fullback, I don't know how he gets a roster spot.
Quote from: FFatPatt on April 18, 2006, 09:53:26 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 18, 2006, 06:51:01 PM
It all goes back to the Anyone But Parry equasion. Spach, Tapeh, Tom Rathman now, Tony Four Fingers in section 131..I don't care.
Jack Nicholson now, or 1974?
Good catch. I was hoping someone would pick up a good Billy Madisonism thrown in there.
Meg Ryan.