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Title: Keyshawn... Would the Eagles really have an interest?
Post by: PublicEnemy_81 on March 23, 2006, 08:37:23 AM
Keyshawn not ready to sign
The fact free-agent WR Keyshawn Johnson reportedly passed on a contract offer from the Giants that would have paid him $3 million per year may mean he believes he can get more from one of Carolina, New England, Philadelphia or Seattle, writes Daily News scribe Ralph Vacchiano.

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/5434474

Is there any upside to having another malcontent? He isnt even a talented one.








Title: Re: Keyshawn... Would the Eagles really have an interest?
Post by: rjs246 on March 23, 2006, 08:40:09 AM
No.
Title: Re: Keyshawn... Would the Eagles really have an interest?
Post by: Diomedes on March 23, 2006, 08:40:40 AM
This subject has been discussed at length in this thread: link (http://www.concretefield.com/forum/index.php?topic=18053.0).

Get Keyshawn!!
Title: Re: Keyshawn... Would the Eagles really have an interest?
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on March 23, 2006, 08:41:37 AM
He's visiting Carolina today.
Title: Re: Keyshawn... Would the Eagles really have an interest?
Post by: ice grillin you on March 23, 2006, 08:43:09 AM
hes not a malcontent and he is talented...other than that tho excellent thread
Title: Re: Keyshawn... Would the Eagles really have an interest?
Post by: Feva on March 23, 2006, 08:43:44 AM
The Eagles have no use for 71 catches, 839 yards and 6 TD's.
Title: Re: Keyshawn... Would the Eagles really have an interest?
Post by: PublicEnemy_81 on March 23, 2006, 08:49:03 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 23, 2006, 08:43:09 AM
hes not a malcontent and he is talented...other than that tho excellent thread

Ok maybe malcontent is harsh since he has been quiet since his Tampa days...

His talent is over rated though... Is he better then what we have now??? hmmm... YES

Ok I was wrong
Title: Re: Keyshawn... Would the Eagles really have an interest?
Post by: Diomedes on March 23, 2006, 08:52:43 AM
Overrated?  Maybe only by himself.  Everyone else knows what they get with him:  A loudmouth WR who wants the ball and is prone to the occasional shouting match with his coaches.  He work ethic is outstanding.  He's never made a problem in the locker room; his teamates all swear by him.  He blocks better than all of the Eagles' WRs, TEs, RBs, and FBs (yes, I know that's not saying much).  He's fearless on the field.  He's got spectacular hands and he can take a hit.  He's not a #1 and never has been in the NFL, but he's a kick ass #2.

Get Keyshawn.
Title: Re: Keyshawn... Would the Eagles really have an interest?
Post by: reese125 on March 23, 2006, 08:53:12 AM
somebody will pay Keyshawn "suck my own" Johnson more money, but it wont be the Eagles.
Title: Re: Keyshawn... Would the Eagles really have an interest?
Post by: PublicEnemy_81 on March 23, 2006, 08:58:52 AM
I agree, but if they have to come to grips that most of the fans gave them a mulligan for last season. If they dont try to be at least mildly aggressive in free agency there will be no mulligan next year.

Title: Re: Keyshawn... Would the Eagles really have an interest?
Post by: Father Demon on March 23, 2006, 09:18:44 AM
Quote from: Diomedes on March 23, 2006, 08:52:43 AM
Overrated?  Maybe only by himself.  Everyone else knows what they get with him:  A loudmouth WR who wants the ball and is prone to the occasional shouting match with his coaches.  He work ethic is outstanding.  He's never made a problem in the locker room; his teamates all swear by him.  He blocks better than all of the Eagles' WRs, TEs, RBs, and FBs (yes, I know that's not saying much).  He's fearless on the field.  He's got spectacular hands and he can take a hit.  He's not a #1 and never has been in the NFL, but he's a kick ass #2.

Get Keyshawn.

Get Keyshawn.
Title: Re: Keyshawn... Would the Eagles really have an interest?
Post by: phillywin2k5 on March 23, 2006, 09:29:57 AM
WHO THE HELL WANTS ANOTHER TO BUT MUCH LESS TALENTED
Title: Re: Keyshawn... Would the Eagles really have an interest?
Post by: Rome on March 23, 2006, 09:44:02 AM
Anyone pimping MeShawn for the Eagles should immediately kill themselves by stabbing their faces and all vital organs with a rusty ice pick.

That is all.
Title: Re: Keyshawn... Would the Eagles really have an interest?
Post by: reese125 on March 23, 2006, 09:48:35 AM
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on March 23, 2006, 09:44:02 AM
Anyone pimping MeShawn for the Eagles should immediately kill themselves by stabbing their faces and all vital organs with a rusty ice pick.

That is all.

.....then cut your eyelids off and feed yourself sleeping pills?
Title: Re: Keyshawn... Would the Eagles really have an interest?
Post by: Rome on March 23, 2006, 09:50:51 AM
Sure.
Title: Re: Keyshawn... Would the Eagles really have an interest?
Post by: mussa on March 23, 2006, 09:51:30 AM
hell i'd take him.  we are in desperate need of a "proven veteran"
Title: Re: Keyshawn... Would the Eagles really have an interest?
Post by: SunMo on March 23, 2006, 09:52:20 AM
he'd be a guy to catch the tough 3rd and 7 over the middle, that's for sure, i'm not sure this team has that player.
Title: Re: Keyshawn... Would the Eagles really have an interest?
Post by: ice grillin you on March 23, 2006, 09:54:24 AM
he'd be a guy to catch the tough 3rd and 7 over the middle, that's for sure, i'm not sure this team has that player.

gaffney is that guy...hes a poor mans keyshawn

the fact that they signed gaffney imo eliminates any chance the eagles get keyshawn...if there was even one to begin with...as they are the same player
Title: Re: Keyshawn... Would the Eagles really have an interest?
Post by: Feva on March 23, 2006, 09:55:07 AM
Quote from: Sun_Mo on March 23, 2006, 09:52:20 AM
he'd be a guy to catch the tough 3rd and 7 over the middle, that's for sure, i'm not sure this team has that player.

What do we need that kind of player for?  McNabb can do it all himself!
Title: Re: Keyshawn... Would the Eagles really have an interest?
Post by: mussa on March 23, 2006, 09:56:23 AM
we already have 5 number 2's, lets add ANOTHER!! YIPPPPPIE!!
Title: Re: Keyshawn... Would the Eagles really have an interest?
Post by: MDS on March 23, 2006, 10:47:20 AM
No.
Title: Re: Keyshawn... Would the Eagles really have an interest?
Post by: rjs246 on March 23, 2006, 10:48:22 AM
Quote from: rjs246 on March 23, 2006, 08:40:09 AM
No.

Quote from: MDS on March 23, 2006, 10:47:20 AM
No.

Off the nuts.
Title: Re: Keyshawn... Would the Eagles really have an interest?
Post by: MDS on March 23, 2006, 10:52:37 AM
Like I read your post.
Title: Re: Keyshawn... Would the Eagles really have an interest?
Post by: Feva on March 23, 2006, 10:53:24 AM
Quote from: mussa on March 23, 2006, 09:56:23 AM
we already have 5 number 2's, lets add ANOTHER!! YIPPPPPIE!!

Maybe I'm not looking hard enough, but I have trouble finding 1 WR on the Eagles roster that has even Keyshawn's current credentials.



If any WR on the Eagles had 70+ catches for more than 800 yards and 6TD's... we'd all be jumping for joy.  Yet, no one wants to consider a man who's done so regularly... including his last 2 seasons.
Title: Re: Keyshawn... Would the Eagles really have an interest?
Post by: Geowhizzer on March 23, 2006, 11:16:25 AM
It's just me, but I'd take Keyshawn Johnson to sure up the WR corps.

Heck, at this time I'd take Lyndon Johnson.
Title: Re: Keyshawn... Would the Eagles really have an interest?
Post by: Phanatic on March 23, 2006, 11:21:16 AM
Keyshawn vs TO in the media would sure be interesting that first game. That is if you don't want to hear too much about the actual game on the field at any rate...
Title: Re: Keyshawn... Would the Eagles really have an interest?
Post by: PublicEnemy_81 on March 23, 2006, 11:26:45 AM
There will be a lot of media hype surrounding that game anyway. You know the new mature T.O. wont be able to keep his gob hole shut.
Title: Re: Keyshawn... Would the Eagles really have an interest?
Post by: reese125 on March 23, 2006, 11:33:22 AM
Quote from: Geowhizzer on March 23, 2006, 11:16:25 AM
It's just me, but I'd take Keyshawn Johnson to sure up the WR corps.

Heck, at this time I'd take Lyndon Johnson.

how bout Magic Johnson?
Title: Re: Keyshawn... Would the Eagles really have an interest?
Post by: Feva on March 23, 2006, 11:39:23 AM
Quote from: reese125 on March 23, 2006, 11:33:22 AM
Quote from: Geowhizzer on March 23, 2006, 11:16:25 AM
It's just me, but I'd take Keyshawn Johnson to sure up the WR corps.

Heck, at this time I'd take Lyndon Johnson.

how bout Magic Johnson?

or Johnson & Johnson?
Title: Re: Keyshawn... Would the Eagles really have an interest?
Post by: Wingspan on March 23, 2006, 11:51:20 AM
Quote from: mussa on March 23, 2006, 09:56:23 AM
we already have 5 number 2's, lets add ANOTHER!! YIPPPPPIE!!

i never farged a 10. but one night i farged five 2's.
Title: Re: Keyshawn... Would the Eagles really have an interest?
Post by: BigEd76 on March 23, 2006, 12:32:00 PM
Are we really that desperate for a veteran WR that we're considering Keyshawn?  :-\
Title: Re: Keyshawn... Would the Eagles really have an interest?
Post by: ice grillin you on March 23, 2006, 12:33:40 PM
Are we really that desperate for a veteran WR that we're considering Keyshawn?

yes
Title: Re: Keyshawn... Would the Eagles really have an interest?
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on March 23, 2006, 12:35:54 PM
Let's clarify who *we* is considering.


*We*, the fans (not necessarily including myself), are considering Keyshawn.

*We*, the Eagles FO, is probably not remotely considering Keyshawn.
Title: Re: Keyshawn... Would the Eagles really have an interest?
Post by: SunMo on March 23, 2006, 12:41:56 PM
Quote from: FFatPatt on March 23, 2006, 12:35:54 PM
Let's clarify who *we* is considering.


*We*, the fans (not necessarily including myself), are considering Keyshawn.

*We*, the Eagles FO, is probably not remotely considering Keyshawn.

there never should be any need to clarify that.  anybody who refers to the Eagles as 'we' should be beaten with a hose.
Title: Re: Keyshawn... Would the Eagles really have an interest?
Post by: ice grillin you on March 23, 2006, 12:44:49 PM
i could care less if they get another wr or not (other than moulds)
that said
im not against anyone they get
keyshawn included
as it cant be worse than what they have now
Title: Re: Keyshawn... Would the Eagles really have an interest?
Post by: Feva on March 23, 2006, 12:47:44 PM
Quote from: BigEd76 on March 23, 2006, 12:32:00 PM
Are we really that desperate for a veteran WR that we're considering Keyshawn?  :-\

Unless Pinkston on one good leg satisfies your requirements for a veteran WR...
Title: Re: Keyshawn... Would the Eagles really have an interest?
Post by: BigEd76 on March 23, 2006, 12:51:29 PM
I'm not saying we don't need a WR with some experience, but I'd rather have Walker or Moulds or someone else.  Keyshawn is an a-hole...
Title: Re: Keyshawn... Would the Eagles really have an interest?
Post by: SD_Eagle5 on March 23, 2006, 12:52:50 PM
No
Title: Re: Keyshawn... Would the Eagles really have an interest?
Post by: Feva on March 23, 2006, 12:57:50 PM
Quote from: BigEd76 on March 23, 2006, 12:51:29 PM
I'm not saying we don't need a WR with some experience, but I'd rather have Walker or Moulds or someone else.  Keyshawn is an a-hole...

I would take Walker or Moulds first as well, but seeing how both of those guys require a trade at this point...
Title: Re: Keyshawn... Would the Eagles really have an interest?
Post by: Diomedes on March 23, 2006, 02:38:18 PM
Quote from: BigEd76 on March 23, 2006, 12:51:29 PMKeyshawn is an a-hole...

This seems to be the principal argument against him.  People don't like him.  Nevermind that he's reliable as a diesel Mercedes.  Nevermind that he's fearless with great hands.  Nevermind that he's durable.  Nevermind that he's a team player with veteren leadership authority.  Nevermind that he blocks better than most TEs in this league.  Nevermind that at 34 years old he's still as productive as he ever was, and just as consistent.  Nevermind all that..people just don't like him.

I laugh at people who compare Keyshawn and TO.  Sure there are some similarities (both are pro football WRs, both talk a lot, both bring it on the field.)  But the similarities are superficial.  In substance, one is a cancer on a team and the other is at worst an occasional headline.  TO is a bona fide insane person..Keyshawn is just a cocky mouth.  TO ruins locker rooms, Keyshawn leads them.  I'm surprised so many people think they are similar, especially after what TO did here.  I can't imagine a player who would be worse to have on your team than TO.  Keyshawn on the other hand has improved every team he's been on.

What's clear is that people just hate Keyshawn, regardless of the facts.

And like some of you have said, it doesn't matter because he's not going to be an Eagle.  I agree.  I think the FO is too cheap to pay him, to shortsighted to realize they need an improvement that he would bring, and too gun-shy about hiring anyone with an ego.  Cheap, unremarkable, placid players are the only candidates the Eagles will pursue.

Expensive, remarkable, bold players need not apply.
Title: Re: Keyshawn... Would the Eagles really have an interest?
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on March 23, 2006, 02:39:30 PM
Word is that everyone is too cheap to pay him so far, Dio.

Giants offered him $3M a year and he scoffed at it.
Title: Re: Keyshawn... Would the Eagles really have an interest?
Post by: SunMo on March 23, 2006, 02:40:14 PM
nice Dio.
Title: Re: Keyshawn... Would the Eagles really have an interest?
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on March 23, 2006, 02:41:18 PM
Covering Plaxico, Shockey, and Keyshawn might be a problem.  Eli could just throw jump balls all game.
Title: Re: Keyshawn... Would the Eagles really have an interest?
Post by: Wingspan on March 23, 2006, 02:41:21 PM
Quote from: Diomedes on March 23, 2006, 02:38:18 PM
Quote from: BigEd76 on March 23, 2006, 12:51:29 PMKeyshawn is an a-hole...

This seems to be the principal argument against him.  People don't like him.  Nevermind that he's reliable as a diesel Mercedes.  Nevermind that he's fearless with great hands.  Nevermind that he's durable.  Nevermind that he's a team player with veteren leadership authority.  Nevermind that he blocks better than most TEs in this league.  Nevermind that at 34 years old he's still as productive as he ever was, and just as consistent.  Nevermind all that..people just don't like him.

I laugh at people who compare Keyshawn and TO.  Sure there are some similarities (both are pro football WRs, both talk a lot, both bring it on the field.)  But the similarities are superficial.  In substance, one is a cancer on a team and the other is at worst an occasional headline.  TO is a bona fide insane person..Keyshawn is just a cocky mouth.  TO ruins locker rooms, Keyshawn leads them.  I'm surprised so many people think they are similar, especially after what TO did here.  I can't imagine a player who would be worse to have on your team than TO.  Keyshawn on the other hand has improved every team he's been on.

What's clear is that people just hate Keyshawn, regardless of the facts.

And like some of you have said, it doesn't matter because he's not going to be an Eagle.  I agree.  I think the FO is too cheap to pay him, to shortsighted to realize they need an improvement that he would bring, and too gun-shy about hiring anyone with an ego.  Cheap, unremarkable, placid players are the only candidates the Eagles will pursue.

Expensive, remarkable, bold players need not apply.


people here have been bashing the guy for so long, that if he'd become an eagle...there would be so many 180's you could feel a breeze coming through your monitor.

people hate to be proven wrong, and fake internet personalities are no different.
Title: Re: Keyshawn... Would the Eagles really have an interest?
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on March 23, 2006, 02:44:49 PM
I'm not going to lie...I don't like the dude. Not one bit. And I wouldn't want him here. Its got nothing to do with him being an idiot. I don't like him.

I would almost prefer Maurice Stovall and the unknown of a rookie to him.

Stupid? Probably.

do I care? No.
Title: Re: Keyshawn... Would the Eagles really have an interest?
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on March 23, 2006, 02:46:15 PM
I agree.  I think Maurice Stovall would be a nice 2nd round pick.
Title: Re: Keyshawn... Would the Eagles really have an interest?
Post by: ice grillin you on March 23, 2006, 02:48:45 PM
stovall blows....hes slower than dirt....thats the last thing they need another slow wr...i dont care how tall he is...hes not even athletic...hes a stiff

not surprising that andy loves him
Title: Re: Keyshawn... Would the Eagles really have an interest?
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on March 23, 2006, 02:50:14 PM
Brown
Gaffney
Pinkston
Stovall
Lewis / McMullen

Spads said that they cannot count on Pinky until he can prove he's back from that injury. He has to have that speed to be effective. And I agree that they missed him last year deep.

He also said that Greg Lewis is on a downward slide.
Title: Re: Keyshawn... Would the Eagles really have an interest?
Post by: ice grillin you on March 23, 2006, 02:53:29 PM
He also said that Greg Lewis is on a downward slide.


lololol
Title: Re: Keyshawn... Would the Eagles really have an interest?
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on March 23, 2006, 02:53:56 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 23, 2006, 02:48:45 PM
stovall blows....hes slower than dirt....thats the last thing they need another slow wr...i dont care how tall he is...hes not even athletic...hes a stiff

That's funny.  Those exact same comments could be made about Keyshawn.
Title: Re: Keyshawn... Would the Eagles really have an interest?
Post by: rjs246 on March 23, 2006, 02:54:34 PM
I like Stovall. He ran in the 4.5s (I think) and played in a pro-style offense. Sounds like an ideal number 2 and if there's one thing this team needs, its a number 2 receiver.
Title: Re: Keyshawn... Would the Eagles really have an interest?
Post by: ice grillin you on March 23, 2006, 02:55:56 PM
keyshawn was a beast in college and even at his slowest he was still much faster than stovall...and you see what keyshawn is in the pros as far as his speed is concerned...now imagine how stovall will translate into the nfl....lets just say it wont be good
Title: Re: Keyshawn... Would the Eagles really have an interest?
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on March 23, 2006, 02:57:53 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 23, 2006, 02:55:56 PM
keyshawn was a beast in college and even at his slowest he was still much faster than stovall...and you see what keyshawn is in the pros as far as his speed is concerned...now imagine how stovall will translate into the nfl....lets just say it wont be good

Yes, it's really a shame how Keyshawn has slowed down from his "speedy years" in the league.

Haha.

Ha.

Ha.
Title: Re: Keyshawn... Would the Eagles really have an interest?
Post by: ice grillin you on March 23, 2006, 03:03:13 PM
Yes, it's really a shame how Keyshawn has slowed down from his "speedy years" in the league

what on gods earth are you talking about


anyway stovall is a product of charlie weis system...he was horrible before last year...couldnt catch was slower than dirt and was going nowhere...now hes a second round pick?

i
dont
think
so


buyer beware
Title: Re: Keyshawn... Would the Eagles really have an interest?
Post by: BigEd76 on March 23, 2006, 03:04:55 PM
Where did I compare Keyshawn to TO?  I didn't.  He's still an a-hole though.
Title: Re: Keyshawn... Would the Eagles really have an interest?
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on March 23, 2006, 03:06:29 PM
 Weis told him to get down from 230 to 215 and that really helped him. He was a Mike Wiliams type guy there for awhile (size wise).

Stovall is 6'4 217 and runs a 4.61

He fits that big possession type guy.
Title: Re: Keyshawn... Would the Eagles really have an interest?
Post by: ice grillin you on March 23, 2006, 03:09:00 PM
He fits that big possession type guy.

maybe but the league is getting away from that...small shifty fast as lighting is all the rage...and the eagles refuse to get it...but instead go after statues like billy mcmullen and stovall

get sinorice moss


stovall would be insane in the second round



Title: Re: Keyshawn... Would the Eagles really have an interest?
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on March 23, 2006, 03:10:49 PM
You want a small, shifty, fast WR, and you're talking about Eric Moulds as a #1?  YOU MAKE NO SENSE.
Title: Re: Keyshawn... Would the Eagles really have an interest?
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on March 23, 2006, 03:13:10 PM
I like the big body WRs.

Give me the tall guys who can shield defenders, win jumpballs and draw penalties when the midget CBs try to cover them.

And Reggie "Chad Johnson" Brown = gamebreaker.
Title: Re: Keyshawn... Would the Eagles really have an interest?
Post by: SunMo on March 23, 2006, 03:13:51 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on March 23, 2006, 03:13:10 PM
I like the big body WRs.

Give me the tall guys who can shield defenders, win jumpballs and draw penalties when the midget CBs try to cover them.

And Reggie "Chad Johnson" Brown = gamebreaker.

i cringe for Phreak, he is just setting himself up with his boy Reggie.
Title: Re: Keyshawn... Would the Eagles really have an interest?
Post by: Diomedes on March 23, 2006, 03:14:59 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on March 23, 2006, 02:44:49 PM
I'm not going to lie...I don't like the dude.

Good on you for admitting it.  But can you say why??

I'm curious about the Keyshawn-hate phenomonon.  On the field, no intelligent fan has anything to complain about regarding Keyshawn.  Sure, he's not as good as TO or Moss.  Who is??  That's the only football complaint you can lodge against Keyshawn.  [getting to sideline antics in a moment, see below.]

Off the field, the worst he's ever done is say things like "I'm the best."  He's cocky.  I don't think it's just his cockiness that sets people off though, because there are plenty of cocky people.  He's articulate as hell, so that combined with cockiness probably pisses people off more than dumb cockiness.  But still..I don't see reason for the degree of knee-jerk disgust his name elicits from so many people.  On-balance, he hasn't lived up to the extreme hype that surrounded his entry into the league, inflated greatly by his own mouth.  So maybe that adds to it.  But come on..I'm nitpicking here.  None of these reasons even begins to explain Keyshawn-hate.

I figure that the hate comes from a combination of what I've said above with his occasional sideline shouting matches with coaches.  People get all upset about someone challenging authority.  People hate whistle-blowers, dissenters, protestors, and pretty much any other person who challenges authority.  It unsettles them to see it.   They think Keyshawn should get and stay in line.  Afterall, they are all staying in line..why should he get to step out of line?

It's a pathological response. 

I think it goes like so for the Keyshawn haters:
[Cocky+articulate+unfulfilled expectations+well paid] + [challenges authority in a less than discreet manner] = dirtbag.

And it might as well be said:  For millions of people, the fact that he's black in combination with all this probably just stokes their rage.

This much is clear:  People just hate the guy.  But players don't.  Coaches don't.  Even coaches who have gotten into it with him don't.

Regarding the "Keyshawn is slow" argument:  so farging what?  Do the Eagles have ANYONE who is good for 75 catches and 6 TDs?  No, they don't.  He would be a massive upgrade.  Put him in the game on every down and the offense is considerably better for the next year or two.  Guarateed.

Quote from: BigEd76 on March 23, 2006, 03:04:55 PM
Where did I compare Keyshawn to TO? I didn't. He's still an a-hole though.
You didn't, and no one said you did.  Many people do, though. 
Title: Re: Keyshawn... Would the Eagles really have an interest?
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on March 23, 2006, 03:15:48 PM
Quote from: Sun_Mo on March 23, 2006, 03:13:51 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on March 23, 2006, 03:13:10 PM
I like the big body WRs.

Give me the tall guys who can shield defenders, win jumpballs and draw penalties when the midget CBs try to cover them.

And Reggie "Chad Johnson" Brown = gamebreaker.

i cringe for Phreak, he is just setting himself up with his boy Reggie.

Don;t cringe, my friend. Embrace the next stud WR in the NFL. Reggie Brown will shock the world!

I was going to get a jersey. But i am going to wait since Jabar gaffney wants to steal #86.
Title: Re: Keyshawn... Would the Eagles really have an interest?
Post by: SunMo on March 23, 2006, 03:16:20 PM
i admire your faith.
Title: Re: Keyshawn... Would the Eagles really have an interest?
Post by: ice grillin you on March 23, 2006, 03:16:46 PM
You want a small, shifty, fast WR, and you're talking about Eric Moulds as a #1?  YOU MAKE NO SENSE

oh id much rather have randel el but hes gone....name me someone better than moulds out there right now and id take him


anyway i was talking about in the draft regarding stovall...but you knew that
Title: Re: Keyshawn... Would the Eagles really have an interest?
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on March 23, 2006, 03:17:51 PM
What does Moulds bring to the table that Stovall couldn't possibly in 2007 and beyond?
Title: Re: Keyshawn... Would the Eagles really have an interest?
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on March 23, 2006, 03:18:25 PM
Quote from: Sun_Mo on March 23, 2006, 03:16:20 PM
i admire your faith.
I worship every Sunday at the First Baptist Church.

You should go there.
Title: Re: Keyshawn... Would the Eagles really have an interest?
Post by: ice grillin you on March 23, 2006, 03:20:03 PM
stovall cant play in the league period...i dont want him over anyone much less moulds

so if youre asking me if i would rather have moulds than stovall you have my answer
Title: Re: Keyshawn... Would the Eagles really have an interest?
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on March 23, 2006, 03:22:21 PM
I know who you'd rather have (duh), but your irrational hatred for Stovall makes little sense.
Title: Re: Keyshawn... Would the Eagles really have an interest?
Post by: Feva on March 23, 2006, 03:26:52 PM
Quote from: Diomedes on March 23, 2006, 02:38:18 PM
Quote from: BigEd76 on March 23, 2006, 12:51:29 PMKeyshawn is an a-hole...

This seems to be the principal argument against him.  People don't like him.  Nevermind that he's reliable as a diesel Mercedes.  Nevermind that he's fearless with great hands.  Nevermind that he's durable.  Nevermind that he's a team player with veteren leadership authority.  Nevermind that he blocks better than most TEs in this league.  Nevermind that at 34 years old he's still as productive as he ever was, and just as consistent.  Nevermind all that..people just don't like him.

I laugh at people who compare Keyshawn and TO.  Sure there are some similarities (both are pro football WRs, both talk a lot, both bring it on the field.)  But the similarities are superficial.  In substance, one is a cancer on a team and the other is at worst an occasional headline.  TO is a bona fide insane person..Keyshawn is just a cocky mouth.  TO ruins locker rooms, Keyshawn leads them.  I'm surprised so many people think they are similar, especially after what TO did here.  I can't imagine a player who would be worse to have on your team than TO.  Keyshawn on the other hand has improved every team he's been on.

What's clear is that people just hate Keyshawn, regardless of the facts.

And like some of you have said, it doesn't matter because he's not going to be an Eagle.  I agree.  I think the FO is too cheap to pay him, to shortsighted to realize they need an improvement that he would bring, and too gun-shy about hiring anyone with an ego.  Cheap, unremarkable, placid players are the only candidates the Eagles will pursue.

Expensive, remarkable, bold players need not apply.


:bow
Title: Re: Keyshawn... Would the Eagles really have an interest?
Post by: ice grillin you on March 23, 2006, 03:27:44 PM
i dont hate him...ogontz ave represent...but 9 months ago he wasnt even getting drafted now hes a second rounder?...hes a charlie weis system guy who had one nice year in college....his negatives are high

in fact youre gonna see a lot of notre dame wr busts in the coming years...guy not that talented but had big college careers because of weis' offensive system...imo stovall is the first...except he had a nice college year
Title: Re: Keyshawn... Would the Eagles really have an interest?
Post by: BigEd76 on March 23, 2006, 03:30:53 PM
igy, you don't like Florida WRs either, do you?
Title: Re: Keyshawn... Would the Eagles really have an interest?
Post by: MURP on March 23, 2006, 03:35:26 PM
Quote from: BigEd76 on March 23, 2006, 03:30:53 PM
igy, you don't like Florida WRs either, do you?

i certainly dont.  Hopefully Gaffney can change that to a small degree. 
Title: Re: Keyshawn... Would the Eagles really have an interest?
Post by: ice grillin you on March 23, 2006, 03:37:14 PM
theres also a difference btwn not  liking and taking with your second pick...id never swear off a player just because of where hes from but stovall just isnt a second round pick imo
Title: Re: Keyshawn... Would the Eagles really have an interest?
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on March 23, 2006, 03:38:10 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 23, 2006, 03:27:44 PM
i dont hate him...ogontz ave represent...but 9 months ago he wasnt even getting drafted now hes a second rounder?...hes a charlie weis system guy who had one nice year in college....his negatives are high

in fact youre gonna see a lot of notre dame wr busts in the coming years...guy not that talented but had big college careers because of weis' offensive system...imo stovall is the first...except he had a nice college year

...and yet, you thought the acquisition of David Givens would have been a good one?
Title: Re: Keyshawn... Would the Eagles really have an interest?
Post by: ice grillin you on March 23, 2006, 03:40:11 PM
and yet, you thought the acquisition of David Givens would have been a good one?

i never pimped givens...in fact i was pretty much against getting him


btw the king just confirmed dallas at philly sunday nite opener

and then he offered to pay the first $1000 dollars of fine money any player would get by cheap shoting TO and called for the fans to donate money towards the same cause
Title: Re: Keyshawn... Would the Eagles really have an interest?
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on March 23, 2006, 03:44:18 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 23, 2006, 03:40:11 PM
btw the king just confirmed dallas at philly sunday nite opener

and then he offered to pay the first $1000 dollars of fine money any player would get by cheap shoting TO and called for the fans to donate money towards the same cause

Too early to put a 10-spot on the cowpies?
Title: Re: Keyshawn... Would the Eagles really have an interest?
Post by: Diomedes on March 23, 2006, 03:45:19 PM
Sadly, no.
Title: Re: Keyshawn... Would the Eagles really have an interest?
Post by: ice grillin you on March 23, 2006, 03:47:15 PM
they HAVE to win that game

but win or lose the lead up to that johnson is gonna be off the bike chain...im ready to roll now
Title: Re: Keyshawn... Would the Eagles really have an interest?
Post by: Diomedes on March 23, 2006, 03:49:50 PM
Roll, wiggy, roll!!
Title: Re: Keyshawn... Would the Eagles really have an interest?
Post by: phillymic2000 on March 23, 2006, 03:49:55 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 23, 2006, 03:40:11 PM
and then he offered to pay the first $1000 dollars of fine money any player would get by cheap shoting TO and called for the fans to donate money towards the same cause

Where do I send my cash?
Title: Re: Keyshawn... Would the Eagles really have an interest?
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on March 23, 2006, 03:51:29 PM
The Eagles are going to lose that game, and it's going to suck hard.
Title: Re: Keyshawn... Would the Eagles really have an interest?
Post by: reese125 on March 23, 2006, 03:51:49 PM
Quote from: phillymic2000 on March 23, 2006, 03:49:55 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 23, 2006, 03:40:11 PM
and then he offered to pay the first $1000 dollars of fine money any player would get by cheap shoting TO and called for the fans to donate money towards the same cause

Where do I send my cash?

horsecollar his ass....
Title: Re: Keyshawn... Would the Eagles really have an interest?
Post by: PhillyGirl on March 23, 2006, 03:53:04 PM
 ::)
Title: Re: Keyshawn... Would the Eagles really have an interest?
Post by: reese125 on March 23, 2006, 03:53:16 PM
Quote from: FFatPatt on March 23, 2006, 03:51:29 PM
The Eagles are going to lose that game, and it's going to suck hard.

Man Patt, you sound like you lost your dog.
Title: Re: Keyshawn... Would the Eagles really have an interest?
Post by: phattymatty on March 23, 2006, 03:53:38 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 23, 2006, 03:40:11 PM
btw the king just confirmed dallas at philly sunday nite opener

i just wet myself.
Title: Re: Keyshawn... Would the Eagles really have an interest?
Post by: Father Demon on March 23, 2006, 03:54:14 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 23, 2006, 03:47:15 PM
they HAVE to win that game

but win or lose the lead up to that johnson is gonna be off the bike chain...im ready to roll now

Sometimes you're blacker than hot tar at midnight....
Title: Re: Keyshawn... Would the Eagles really have an interest?
Post by: Diomedes on March 23, 2006, 03:54:19 PM
Quote from: PhillyGirl on March 23, 2006, 03:53:04 PM
::)

PG rolls harder than all.
Title: Re: Keyshawn... Would the Eagles really have an interest?
Post by: Feva on March 23, 2006, 03:54:38 PM
Quote from: FFatPatt on March 23, 2006, 03:51:29 PM
The Eagles are going to lose that game, and it's going to suck hard.

I don't even want to think about that... my God, how horrible would that be?
Title: Re: Keyshawn... Would the Eagles really have an interest?
Post by: rjs246 on March 23, 2006, 03:54:40 PM
You can send donations for the cause to:

rjs246
12345 Burnhisstupidassalive Blvd.
Apt. Eatafatcock
Boston, MA 01234
Title: Re: Keyshawn... Would the Eagles really have an interest?
Post by: rjs246 on March 23, 2006, 03:54:54 PM
Oh and yes, the Eagles will lose that game.
Title: Re: Keyshawn... Would the Eagles really have an interest?
Post by: SunMo on March 23, 2006, 03:55:36 PM
dude, why the farg does your apartment complex use such long names, most i've seen simply use letters or number, or sometimes a combination of the two, but never such a long identification process.
Title: Re: Keyshawn... Would the Eagles really have an interest?
Post by: Diomedes on March 23, 2006, 03:55:42 PM
I'm surprised you made up an address this time, Russell.  You're getting better at the internets.  :flipoff
Title: Re: Keyshawn... Would the Eagles really have an interest?
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on March 23, 2006, 03:56:52 PM
Quote from: EagleFeva on March 23, 2006, 03:54:38 PM
Quote from: FFatPatt on March 23, 2006, 03:51:29 PM
The Eagles are going to lose that game, and it's going to suck hard.

I don't even want to think about that... my God, how horrible would that be?

It will be awful.
Title: Re: Keyshawn... Would the Eagles really have an interest?
Post by: ice grillin you on March 23, 2006, 03:57:13 PM
PG rolls harder than all.

hahaha



im on record RIGHT NOW....eagles do not lose that game
Title: Re: Keyshawn... Would the Eagles really have an interest?
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on March 23, 2006, 03:58:14 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 23, 2006, 03:57:13 PM
im on record RIGHT NOW....eagles do not lose that game

Are you ten dollars confident?
Title: Re: Keyshawn... Would the Eagles really have an interest?
Post by: Feva on March 23, 2006, 03:58:22 PM
I was thinking about this last night.

If he scores against us and runs to the Eagle logo...

1. Would any of the Eagles try to take his head off? 
2. Would Eagles fans swarm the field to kill him?
3. If #2 happened, would security immediately stop it?
4. Could they even continue the game?
Title: Re: Keyshawn... Would the Eagles really have an interest?
Post by: SunMo on March 23, 2006, 03:58:32 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on March 23, 2006, 03:18:25 PM
Quote from: Sun_Mo on March 23, 2006, 03:16:20 PM
i admire your faith.
I worship every Sunday at the First Baptist Church.

You should go there.

i just got that.  i am a zero.
Title: Re: Keyshawn... Would the Eagles really have an interest?
Post by: Diomedes on March 23, 2006, 03:58:47 PM
Quote from: rjs246 on March 23, 2006, 03:54:54 PM
Oh and yes, the Eagles will lose that game.

Probably badly, too.  TO will have a monster, monster game.  I will have some dilotid on hand to cut the edge off the pain.
Title: Re: Keyshawn... Would the Eagles really have an interest?
Post by: SunMo on March 23, 2006, 03:59:03 PM
Quote from: EagleFeva on March 23, 2006, 03:58:22 PM
I was thinking about this last night.

If he scores against us and runs to the Eagle logo...

1. Would any of the Eagles try to take his head off? 
2. Would Eagles fans swarm the field to kill him?
3. If #2 happened, would security immediately stop it?
4. Could they even continue the game?

i thought after he did that in Dallas they changed the rule to disallow it?
Title: Re: Keyshawn... Would the Eagles really have an interest?
Post by: SunMo on March 23, 2006, 03:59:48 PM
one thing against them, the Eagles are historically not very good in openers.

Title: Re: Keyshawn... Would the Eagles really have an interest?
Post by: rjs246 on March 23, 2006, 03:59:57 PM
Hey Dio, I was certain that my Deathlist would result in a win and wanted everyone to know where to mail their checks and messages of envy and worship.

Sadly, everyone on my list is still alive. farging Dakota Fanning.
Title: Re: Keyshawn... Would the Eagles really have an interest?
Post by: Feva on March 23, 2006, 04:01:30 PM
Quote from: Sun_Mo on March 23, 2006, 03:59:03 PM
Quote from: EagleFeva on March 23, 2006, 03:58:22 PM
I was thinking about this last night.

If he scores against us and runs to the Eagle logo...

1. Would any of the Eagles try to take his head off? 
2. Would Eagles fans swarm the field to kill him?
3. If #2 happened, would security immediately stop it?
4. Could they even continue the game?

i thought after he did that in Dallas they changed the rule to disallow it?

Did they?  I know he got fined and suspended by Mariucci and Andy flat out told him that he'd be in deep shtein if he did... but I don't know of an NFL rule against it.
Title: Re: Keyshawn... Would the Eagles really have an interest?
Post by: ice grillin you on March 23, 2006, 04:01:34 PM
Are you ten dollars confident?


IN
Title: Re: Keyshawn... Would the Eagles really have an interest?
Post by: Father Demon on March 23, 2006, 04:02:23 PM
Quote from: rjs246 on March 23, 2006, 03:59:57 PM
Hey Dio, I was certain that my Deathlist would result in a win and wanted everyone to know where to mail their checks and messages of envy and worship.

Sadly, everyone on my list is still alive. farging Dakota Fanning.

Your recent poll numbers don't look so good.  You should start shaking more hands and kissing more babies....
Title: Re: Keyshawn... Would the Eagles really have an interest?
Post by: PublicEnemy_81 on March 23, 2006, 04:03:03 PM
Quote from: EagleFeva on March 23, 2006, 03:58:22 PM
I was thinking about this last night.

If he scores against us and runs to the Eagle logo...

1. Would any of the Eagles try to take his head off? 
2. Would Eagles fans swarm the field to kill him?
3. If #2 happened, would security immediately stop it?
4. Could they even continue the game?

Does this defense have the heart to stand up against T.O.??? These were the players last year that allow this to continue.

I would love to think that B. Dawk or Trotter would try to kill him, but I think there is a better chance of a fan trying to do it.
Title: Re: Keyshawn... Would the Eagles really have an interest?
Post by: SunMo on March 23, 2006, 04:03:13 PM
Quote from: EagleFeva on March 23, 2006, 04:01:30 PM

Did they?  I know he got fined and suspended by Mariucci and Andy flat out told him that he'd be in deep shtein if he did... but I don't know of an NFL rule against it.

i think they just included it under the unsportsmanlike conduct penalty. 
Title: Re: Keyshawn... Would the Eagles really have an interest?
Post by: phattymatty on March 23, 2006, 04:03:20 PM
keyshawn yelled at coach gruden once.  he's a big fat meany. 

remember 3 years ago, the eagles had great chemistry.  all the guys loved each other.  and the whole time keyshawn was cancering the tampa bay locker room up while they won the super bowl.
Title: Re: Keyshawn... Would the Eagles really have an interest?
Post by: Feva on March 23, 2006, 04:04:36 PM
Quote from: phattymatty on March 23, 2006, 04:03:20 PM
keyshawn yelled at coach gruden once.  he's a big fat meany. 

remember 3 years ago, the eagles had great chemistry.  all the guys loved each other.  and the whole time keyshawn was cancering the tampa bay locker room up while they won the super bowl.

:-D :yay
Title: Re: Keyshawn... Would the Eagles really have an interest?
Post by: phillymic2000 on March 23, 2006, 04:05:14 PM
Quote from: Diomedes on March 23, 2006, 03:58:47 PM
Quote from: rjs246 on March 23, 2006, 03:54:54 PM
Oh and yes, the Eagles will lose that game.

Probably badly, too.  TO will have a monster, monster game.  I will have some dilotid on hand to cut the edge off the pain.

I hope that is a medicine I thought you might have misspelled dildo.
Title: Re: Keyshawn... Would the Eagles really have an interest?
Post by: Diomedes on March 23, 2006, 04:06:55 PM
It's a medicine for the soul.  Kinda like heroin.

and I misspelled it.  Dilaudid.  Sorry.
Title: Re: Keyshawn... Would the Eagles really have an interest?
Post by: phillymic2000 on March 23, 2006, 04:08:34 PM
Quote from: Diomedes on March 23, 2006, 04:06:55 PM
It's a medicine for the soul.  Kinda like heroin.

and I misspelled it.  Dilaudid.  Sorry.

Can you mail me some in time for the game?
Title: Re: Keyshawn... Would the Eagles really have an interest?
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on March 23, 2006, 04:09:25 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 23, 2006, 04:01:34 PM
Are you ten dollars confident?


IN

Eagles win or tie = You win the cheddar.
Eagles lose = I win the cash.


Deal.
Title: Re: Keyshawn... Would the Eagles really have an interest?
Post by: ice grillin you on March 23, 2006, 04:09:36 PM
Does this defense have the heart to stand up against T.O

thats the million dollar question....do andys jolly gang of gay superheros still say how they all like TO and consider him a friend....or do they buck up and play for the city the franchise and the fans and put a bounty the size of rhode island on his neck
Title: Re: Keyshawn... Would the Eagles really have an interest?
Post by: rjs246 on March 23, 2006, 04:10:17 PM
BOUNTY! For the love of God, bounty!
Title: Re: Keyshawn... Would the Eagles really have an interest?
Post by: phillymic2000 on March 23, 2006, 04:12:32 PM
They need to hire Buddy back as a special defensive assistant.  ;D
Title: Re: Keyshawn... Would the Eagles really have an interest?
Post by: MURP on March 23, 2006, 04:17:18 PM
i really dont care about Keyshawn because I dont see Reid ever signing him.   I was looking at Keyshawns stats and saw he hasnt had a reception longer than 39 yards since 2002.   Just an interesting worthless stat.  carry on.
Title: Re: Keyshawn... Would the Eagles really have an interest?
Post by: Diomedes on March 23, 2006, 04:20:27 PM
Quote from: MURP on March 23, 2006, 04:17:18 PM
i really dont care about Keyshawn because I dont see Reid ever signing him. I was looking at Keyshawns stats and saw he hasnt had a reception longer than 39 yards since 2002. Just an interesting worthless stat. carry on.

Yeah..he's no burner.  On that long one, be probably ran someone over and got caught from behind by someone who had fallen down just before the catch. 
Title: Re: Keyshawn... Would the Eagles really have an interest?
Post by: Phanatic on March 23, 2006, 04:23:13 PM
Get Bounty!

Losing that game is really going to drive me to drink. I should schedule vacation for that week cause I'm not going to want to talk to anyone if they lose. Except to throw random punches to the neck.
Title: Re: Keyshawn... Would the Eagles really have an interest?
Post by: Wingspan on March 23, 2006, 04:40:48 PM
Quote from: phattymatty on March 23, 2006, 04:03:20 PM
keyshawn yelled at coach gruden once.  he's a big fat meany. 

remember 3 years ago, the eagles had great chemistry.  all the guys loved each other.  and the whole time keyshawn was cancering the tampa bay locker room up while they won the super bowl.

i laughed for 3 minutes :-D
Title: Re: Keyshawn... Would the Eagles really have an interest?
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on March 23, 2006, 04:44:36 PM
Keyshawn likes to get up bright and early for that 11am SportsCenter.
Title: Re: Keyshawn... Would the Eagles really have an interest?
Post by: Geowhizzer on March 23, 2006, 05:55:57 PM
Quote from: Wingspan on March 23, 2006, 04:40:48 PM
Quote from: phattymatty on March 23, 2006, 04:03:20 PM
keyshawn yelled at coach gruden once.  he's a big fat meany. 

remember 3 years ago, the eagles had great chemistry.  all the guys loved each other.  and the whole time keyshawn was cancering the tampa bay locker room up while they won the super bowl.

i laughed for 3 minutes :-D

I cried for 5.  :'(