shoulder shrug best explains my reaction to this.
Leonard Braman has officially re-purchased the Eagles and is looking to move them to LA
Norman Braman or Leonard Tose?
Quote from: VET STADIUM TURF on March 12, 2006, 11:35:59 PM
Norman Braman or Leonard Tose?
Braman was the cheap one, Tose just lost all his money in AC
Damn wrong first name sorry
would ya'll rather have greg lewis or todd pinkston? this isn't a bad move. it is if they don't sign anyone else, but there's also not a whole lot out there.
I've always liked Finneran but I don't really see a place on this team for him. We're loaded from top to bottom in terms of complimentary recievers. If the Eagles are going to bring in a reciever it needs to be Moulds. Period.
The FO is really starting to piss me off.
im more pissed that the other NFC East teams look ALOT better than our Eagles on paper. I like Finneran but come on! And i still think the Eagles are going to run at Rocky Bernard or Ryan Pickett (if he didnt sign already) . Eagles should have been desperate to sign a veteran RB to team up with Westbrook and Anderson can play FB and RB. On paper this team finishes 3rd or 4th in the NFC East as of today
Quote from: phillywin2k5 on March 12, 2006, 11:43:59 PM
im more pissed that the other NFC East teams look ALOT better than our Eagles on paper. I like Finneran but come on! And i still think the Eagles are going to run at Rocky Bernard or Ryan Pickett (if he didnt sign already) . Eagles should have been desperate to sign a veteran RB to team up with Westbrook and Anderson can play FB and RB. On paper this team finished 3rd or 4th in the NFC East as of today
Key words?
ON PAPER
I'm not happy with FA so far either, but nothig is won in March. Lets see what goes down
I like Mike Hass from OSU. I think he's a stud. If we can draft Hass, then I think we'll have a decent RW corps...
Reggie
Pinkston
Finneran
Hass
Lewis
I like that. That said though, would I rather a Moulds or a Walker? Hell yea I would, but let's be honest here. We've all just endured one of the worst off-season weekends in this teams history. I'm not expecting much at all. If this is how we go into 06', the receivers look servicable; worst case. But its a moot point of we don't draft Hass.
I like Jeff Webb and Brandon Marshall. Maurice Stovall is nice too.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on March 12, 2006, 11:44:57 PM
Quote from: phillywin2k5 on March 12, 2006, 11:43:59 PM
im more pissed that the other NFC East teams look ALOT better than our Eagles on paper. I like Finneran but come on! And i still think the Eagles are going to run at Rocky Bernard or Ryan Pickett (if he didnt sign already) . Eagles should have been desperate to sign a veteran RB to team up with Westbrook and Anderson can play FB and RB. On paper this team finished 3rd or 4th in the NFC East as of today
Key words?
ON PAPER
I'm not happy with FA so far either, but nothig is won in March. Lets see what goes down
i know but this team needs veterans to win right now not more Rookies who they cant teach to be starting WRs in the NFL.
You know the gold standard in the NFL, well i think this Front Office is the Gold Plated Standard, turns your neck green if you wear it in the shower. They are just that cheap
Webb had some nice numbers during his senior year. Big kid too, and he should be available on Day 2.
Who's Brandon Marshall? Brandon Williams maybe?
Quote from: Sgt PSN on March 12, 2006, 11:43:35 PM
I've always liked Finneran but I don't really see a place on this team for him. We're loaded from top to bottom in terms of complimentary recievers. If the Eagles are going to bring in a reciever it needs to be Moulds. Period.
The FO is really starting to piss me off.
Really, what WR's were there? With Wayne gone, all they had to choose from was a bunch of complimentary guys & one with KR/PR ability to choose from.
If Moulds ever was released, I'd be pissed that they didn't pursue him but wouldn't be surprised if they didn't.
I disagree with the whole "games arent won and lost on March". Had we used our money wisely last offseason and signed servicable backups, who knows what could have happened. Teams are made in March and April.
Quote from: Die-Hard on March 12, 2006, 11:52:20 PM
I disagree with the whole "games arent won and lost on March". Had we used our money wisely last offseason and signed servicable backups, who knows what could have happened. Teams are made in March and April.
I agree with that.
If true, I'd be curious what they were planning to do with the WRs.
Finneran is at his best on intermediate to deep routes. I think Greg needs to be the slot guy. Reggie and Todd, if healthy, are the starters.
Possibly this could me Brian and Todd platooning at X-rcvr. I'd be fine with that.
We cannot have another year of Greg Lewis as the backup X. He is not a starter.
If Wayne ever hit the open market, Snyder would have yoinked him up faster that you could say six flags.
I'm hoping Finneran takes the role of what McCants was supposed to be last year. Come in on red zone plays, and be a 4th receiver.
I hope to god they sign another receiver or at least draft someone like Chad Jackson or Derek Hagan in the 2nd round.
Quote from: Beermonkey on March 12, 2006, 11:51:42 PM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on March 12, 2006, 11:43:35 PM
I've always liked Finneran but I don't really see a place on this team for him. We're loaded from top to bottom in terms of complimentary recievers. If the Eagles are going to bring in a reciever it needs to be Moulds. Period.
The FO is really starting to piss me off.
Really, what WR's were there? With Wayne gone, all they had to choose from was a bunch of complimentary guys & one with KR/PR ability to choose from. If Moulds ever was released, I'd be pissed that they didn't pursue him but wouldn't be surprised if they didn't.
They're addressing a need position with a player who, imo, doesn't fill any needs which makes it pointless. Sure, the WR pool isn't very deep this year so instead of signing marginal talent to blend in with the current marginal talent already on the roster, how about focusing the effort on need positions that can be filled with quality players.
Signing Finneran is like throwing another hen in the hen house when you don't have any roosters.
Jason Avant is solid too. He had a nice combine.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on March 12, 2006, 11:58:15 PM
They're addressing a need position with a player who, imo, doesn't fill any needs which makes it pointless. Sure, the WR pool isn't very deep this year so instead of signing marginal talent to blend in with the current marginal talent already on the roster, how about focusing the effort on need positions that can be filled with quality players.
Signing Finneran is like throwing another hen in the hen house when you don't have any roosters.
I completely know how you feel, I just think that there really weren't any WR's most would consider a quality player to begin with. I can guarantee that if the Eagles signed Randel-El, there would be a huge contingent bitching about signing a gimmick player/special teams guy that really didn't address the need (I would have liked it, BTW).
I'm not excited about Finneran either, but at least they are admitting that position needs some attention. I pray that they feel it needs even more.
Quote from: Beermonkey on March 13, 2006, 12:06:55 AM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on March 12, 2006, 11:58:15 PM
They're addressing a need position with a player who, imo, doesn't fill any needs which makes it pointless. Sure, the WR pool isn't very deep this year so instead of signing marginal talent to blend in with the current marginal talent already on the roster, how about focusing the effort on need positions that can be filled with quality players.
Signing Finneran is like throwing another hen in the hen house when you don't have any roosters.
I completely know how you feel, I just think that there really weren't any WR's most would consider a quality player to begin with. I can guarantee that if the Eagles signed Randel-El, there would be a huge contingent bitching about signing a gimmick player/special teams guy that really didn't address the need (I would have liked it, BTW).
I'm not excited about Finneran either, but at least they are admitting that position needs some attention. I pray that they feel it needs even more.
IMO though, they're just spending money for the sake of spending money (even if it's not a lot). As it stands right now, the WR position CAN NOT be fixed via free agency (unless Moulds shakes loose from Buf). So spending any time on it at this point is time wasted. I mean, it's the 2nd day of free agency and Brian farging Finneran is off the board now. I'm pretty sure the Eagles could have focused more energy on someone who may actually make a significant impact (maybe Howard) and Finneran would still be there tomorrow.
That's all I'm really complaining about. It's not so much that they signed Finneran, it's that they signed him on the same day that big name free agents are being signed by other teams. It's like drafting Quincey Carter in the 2nd round when you know he'll be available in the 4th.
Is something wrong with Antonio Bryant or Givens? They don't like them and they like Finneran because......?
Bryant = punkass bitch
Givens = good and would love him, but is visting about 12 teams now.
Antonio Bryant hasn't got in any trouble since he left Dallas. He was a kid then, and apparently has matured.
He's only 25 and is only going to get better.
Quote from: Philly Forever on March 13, 2006, 12:21:53 AM
Is something wrong with Antonio Bryant or Givens? They don't like them and they like Finneran because......?
Patriots.com - According to a report in Sunday's Houston Chronicle free agent wide receiver David Givens has cancelled a scheduled visit to meet with the Texans after reaching a deal late Saturday to re-sign with the Patriots.
Previously, Givens had reportedly made a free agent visit to the Miami Dolphins. A native of Humble, Texas, Givens' Boston-based agent Brad Blank had reportedly listed the Dolphins, Texans and Patriots as the trio of teams Givens would choose between.
False report.
Quote from: reese125 on March 13, 2006, 12:40:16 AM
Quote from: Philly Forever on March 13, 2006, 12:21:53 AM
Is something wrong with Antonio Bryant or Givens? They don't like them and they like Finneran because......?
Patriots.com - According to a report in Sunday's Houston Chronicle free agent wide receiver David Givens has cancelled a scheduled visit to meet with the Texans after reaching a deal late Saturday to re-sign with the Patriots.
Previously, Givens had reportedly made a free agent visit to the Miami Dolphins. A native of Humble, Texas, Givens' Boston-based agent Brad Blank had reportedly listed the Dolphins, Texans and Patriots as the trio of teams Givens would choose between.
Supposedly, even the Texans thought he was asking for too much:
QuoteTexans | Givens too expensive to sign?
Sun, 12 Mar 2006 17:39:04 -0800
John McClain, of the Houston Chronicle, reports the Houston Texans spent Sunday, March 12, meeting with free agent WR David Givens (Patriots). Givens reportedly wants $25 million over five years and that's out of the Texans' price range. Late Saturday night, March 11, the Texans said Boston-based agent Brad Blank informed them that Givens was going to re-sign with the New England Patriots. This morning, Givens came to Houston as scheduled, told the Texans there had been some miscommunication and that he was definitely interested. They still haven't given up on him, but the price is too high.
at least if we signed ARE, we would've been covered for punt returner too. as bad as our special teams were last year, they wouldn't be a bad thing to address.. ya know, since were not realistically looking at LB, OL, or WR.
Newsflash:
Punt returners can be obtained elsewhere. You don't have to sign a guy just because he is a PR.
i think moats and or westbrook could be used for PR duty...both seem explosive enough.
is there any truth to this rumor i heard from this other eagles fan that he heard espn radio talking about eagles trying to acquire jevon walker from the packers and how walker has said he doesnt wanna play in gb no more? any truth to this?
i ask cause if they have signed finneran there is absolutely no chance in my mind of that deal working out cause i think the eagles believe they are set offensively in banking on brown being a #1, pinkston recovering anough to stretch the field, finneran being a possesion WR, and lj smith and westbrook being heavily used in the passing game. they might stick it out with moats and westbrook at RB since moats showed some great promise.
if the above is true and they wont be upgrading the offense i seriously hope they address the D...particularly the LB corps (no barber isnt enough esp since he isnt proven)....julian peterson is still out there, and they need depth at the D line and of course the O LINE.
[Optimism] I like Finneran's height...ehh.
This isn't what I had in mind for a WR. I get the impression that even if Moulds is released that the Eagles won't pursue him.
Quote from: phillywin2k5 on March 12, 2006, 11:43:59 PM
im more pissed that the other NFC East teams look ALOT better than our Eagles on paper. I like Finneran but come on! And i still think the Eagles are going to run at Rocky Bernard or Ryan Pickett (if he didnt sign already) . Eagles should have been desperate to sign a veteran RB to team up with Westbrook and Anderson can play FB and RB. On paper this team finishes 3rd or 4th in the NFC East as of today
wah. :-o
Is there any solid link to this report anyway?
Nope.
Billy V was the only person to talk about it. NBC10 didn't have it on SF either. And I've read the ATL and PHL papers today and nothing.
No mention in any of today's papers is right.
Hmm.
Brian Finneran = meh.
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on March 13, 2006, 07:43:39 AM
Brian Finneran = meh.
Brian Finneran = no proof of being an Eagle.
at first I thought wtf? Now Im thinking if it means the end of Billy McMullen as an Eagle, id gladly give Finnaren a deal.
:-D
:P
Quote from: MURP on March 13, 2006, 07:50:40 AM
at first I thought wtf? Now Im thinking if it means the end of Billy McMullen as an Eagle, id gladly give Finnaren a deal.
Don't dis Billy!! Ya gotta have some love for Billy Mac!
Get Gregory Lewis outta here!
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on March 13, 2006, 08:19:37 AM
Quote from: MURP on March 13, 2006, 07:50:40 AM
at first I thought wtf? Now Im thinking if it means the end of Billy McMullen as an Eagle, id gladly give Finnaren a deal.
Don't dis Billy!! Ya gotta have some love for Billy Mac!
Get Gregory Lewis outta here!
What? Why? Because Glew IS NOT A #1 WR and was pushed into that role last year? ???
The guy thrived as a #3, dont' shove him out because he didn't play well as the #1 in place of TO.
I like Lewis a lot, but McMullen took steps forward last season, and Greg took steps back.
It would be a tough call which more deserved a roster spot. Would depend on the other guy(s) added.
McMullen has showed shtein. Steps forward? For every one he took forward, he took 2 back.
Lewis was put in a position he should have NEVER been in.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on March 13, 2006, 08:20:45 AM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on March 13, 2006, 08:19:37 AM
Quote from: MURP on March 13, 2006, 07:50:40 AM
at first I thought wtf? Now Im thinking if it means the end of Billy McMullen as an Eagle, id gladly give Finnaren a deal.
Don't dis Billy!! Ya gotta have some love for Billy Mac!
Get Gregory Lewis outta here!
What? Why? Because Glew IS NOT A #1 WR and was pushed into that role last year? ???
The guy thrived as a #3, dont' shove him out because he didn't play well as the #1 in place of TO.
I said that partly because when MURP and I were watching the DAL game at the Linc I was pimping Billy Mac to him all night.
And also...McMullen at least fights for the ball. I didn't like what I saw out of Lewis at all last year. Number 1 or not, he just didn't play well at all.
But like FF said, it is hard to choose. It would come down to TC and who plays STs the best.
Apparently WIP is reporting he will be visiting. I am not listening...only going by what a poster said on the EMB
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on March 13, 2006, 08:19:37 AM
Quote from: MURP on March 13, 2006, 07:50:40 AM
at first I thought wtf? Now Im thinking if it means the end of Billy McMullen as an Eagle, id gladly give Finnaren a deal.
Don't dis Billy!! Ya gotta have some love for Billy Mac!
Get Gregory Lewis outta here!
I would love Billy Mac....
... love for him to leave the NFL.
hey, get rid of Greg Lewis and Billy Mac... and Pinkston. :D
finneran is a large man...for a wr, that is.
every time i hear or see the name Finneran, i see him getting the ball ripped out of his hands by the Cardinals defender during the game the Eagles crapped down their pants quite some time ago.
damn him!
Signing Finneran would be the equivalent of signing another mediocre blocking, pass catching TE...who lines up further from the line. I'd take him, but the signing would be pretty mediocre.
(http://www.cheddarheads.co.uk/hof/2004/finneran3.jpg)
Raise your hand if you're Sure!
TOYOTA!
The more I think about it the more I like the idea of Finneran. It's fairly meh but every little bit helps. Also, someone mentioned earlier that the team already has enough 'complimentary WRs'. I would STRONGLY disagree with that. You MIGHT be able to argue that Pinkston and McCants could be complimentary receivers. Or you could easily argue that Everyone other than Brown sucks goat scrot and should be burlap-sacked and tossed in the river.
this is all i care about Finneran, can he catch the ball, can he make tough catches? if so, he's fine for the slot. but that's all they're getting, other than a draft pick. Reggie will be #1, Pinky #2 and Finneran #3, GLew #4
is pinky healthy yet?
Reggie will be #1, Pinky #2 and Finneran #3, GLew #4
(http://www.accboards.com/UBB/bomb.gif)
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 13, 2006, 09:28:38 AM
Reggie will be #1, Pinky #2 and Finneran #3, GLew #4
(http://www.accboards.com/UBB/bomb.gif)
I guess Donovan will be coverage-sacked a lot.
Has Finneran signed yet? Has he even shaken hands with Big Red at this point?
Jesus... chill ladies. :-D
What happened to signing Jurevicious? I guess the WR offseason plan is possesion white WR.
Quote from: Sun_Mo on March 13, 2006, 09:22:11 AM
this is all i care about Finneran, can he catch the ball, can he make tough catches? if so, he's fine for the slot. but that's all they're getting, other than a draft pick. Reggie will be #1, Pinky #2 and Finneran #3, GLew #4
Well, I can say that Finneran displayed pretty good hands here in ATL. He also has made a number of tough catches during his time here because Lord knows Vick has made him use every inch of that 6'5" frame of his. He hasn't got much in the way of speed... he is what he is... a classic possession receiver. He does add value in that respect because he provides a very big target to find on 3rd down and in teh red zone.
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on March 13, 2006, 09:31:35 AM
Has Finneran signed yet? Has he even shaken hands with Big Red at this point?
Jesus... chill ladies. :-D
Why?
You like:
Brown
Pinkston
GLewis
McMullen
better?
Quote from: Philly_Crew on March 13, 2006, 09:33:11 AM
What happened to signing Jurevicious? I guess the WR offseason plan is possesion white WR.
Browns.
No. I just think everyone is freaking out for no reason at this point.
I'd still rather have a guy like Moulds or better yet, Javon Walker if a deal with the Packers could be reached.
Seriously... some of you are bordering on hysterics over something that you have no control over whatsoever.
brian finneran? yippee.
I'm having trouble finding anyone who's bordering on hysterics. Though the thought of it is certainly entertaining.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on March 13, 2006, 08:24:56 AM
McMullen has showed shtein. Steps forward? For every one he took forward, he took 2 back.
Lewis was put in a position he should have NEVER been in.
well then if he should never have been a started, he shouldnt be on the eagles.
lewis is one of the people i dont want to see on the eagles in september.
Quote from: Wingspan on March 13, 2006, 09:46:24 AM
lewis is one of the people i dont want to see on the eagles in september.
agreed. i'll take a healthy pinkston, alligator arms and all, over that bum greg lewis. i didn't know it was possible to be so soft and start in the nfl.
I'm having trouble finding anyone who's bordering on hysterics.
shoulda spent this weekend at my house
I'm having a hard time getting that song out of my head. You know, the one that goes,
"F I double N A R E N spells Finnaren"
WTG Fox29 reporting!
I think Finneran is big upgrade ;) The best hand on the team,a guy who can catch :yay
Falling on your axe yet, 61?
See, like falling on your sword, only funnier, because of your ava.....aw, forget it.
Quote from: MadMarchHare on March 13, 2006, 12:49:13 PM
See, like falling on your sword, only funnier, because of your ava.....aw, forget it.
see, when you have to explain your jokes, they're probably not funny
Quote from: T_Section224 on March 13, 2006, 12:50:09 PM
Quote from: MadMarchHare on March 13, 2006, 12:49:13 PM
See, like falling on your sword, only funnier, because of your ava.....aw, forget it.
see, when you have to explain your jokes, they're probably not funny
Thanks for the head's up, Captain Obvious.
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on March 13, 2006, 09:40:00 AM
No. I just think everyone is freaking out for no reason at this point.
I'd still rather have a guy like Moulds or better yet, Javon Walker if a deal with the Packers could be reached.
Seriously... some of you are bordering on hysterics over something that you have no control over whatsoever.
Arent you the Cat with a stash of Vicas?........Easy for you to say.
Quote from: MadMarchHare on March 13, 2006, 12:51:21 PMThanks for the head's up, Captain Obvious.
i'm here to help
Quote from: fansince61 on March 13, 2006, 12:44:19 PM
The best hand on the team,a guy who can catch...
...and give the ball to the opposing DB for an easy score. :evil
Quote from: T_Section224 on March 13, 2006, 12:53:52 PM
Quote from: MadMarchHare on March 13, 2006, 12:51:21 PMThanks for the head's up, Captain Obvious.
i'm here to help
t...congrats on the promotion...no more private obvious for you! :yay
Funny you mention that. I had to take my buddy to the surgeon this morning to have his tooth extracted. The doctor gave him a 'scrip for another 20 Vicodins...
I don't have anything wrong with my teeth but I'm thinking of scheduling an appointment with that motherfarger just the same...
:yay
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on March 13, 2006, 01:28:43 PM
Funny you mention that. I had to take my buddy to the surgeon this morning to have his tooth extracted. The doctor gave him a 'scrip for another 20 Vicodins...
I don't have anything wrong with my teeth but I'm thinking of scheduling an appointment with that motherfarger just the same...
:yay
Yes...Def worth a tooth being pulled. I was on them for about 3 months after I tore my Pec muscle...Loved em. :yay
If the Eagles get Finneran, we can listen to Chris Berman say McNabb threw a spinneran to Finneran.
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on March 13, 2006, 01:28:43 PM
Funny you mention that. I had to take my buddy to the surgeon this morning to have his tooth extracted. The doctor gave him a 'scrip for another 20 Vicodins...
I don't have anything wrong with my teeth but I'm thinking of scheduling an appointment with that motherfarger just the same...
:yay
Vicodin makes me want to have my vasectomy reversed & redone all over again. :yay
Quote from: PhillyGirl on March 13, 2006, 07:01:16 AM
No mention in any of today's papers is right.
Hmm.
Reub (http://www.phillyburbs.com/pb-dyn/news/99-03132006-625652.html)
QuoteFox Sports reported last night that the Eagles are close to signing veteran receiver Brian Finneran, who began his career with the Eagles as an undrafted free agent in 1999.
Finneran caught 50 passes last year in his sixth season with the Falcons. He caught a career-high 56 passes in 2003 and has 187 receptions and 15 touchdowns in seven NFL seasons.
Finneran, 30, played at Villanova. He stands 6-5, 210.
So yeah...they said it ;D
Quote from: BigEd76 on March 13, 2006, 02:01:44 PM
Quote from: PhillyGirl on March 13, 2006, 07:01:16 AM
No mention in any of today's papers is right.
Hmm.
Reub (http://www.phillyburbs.com/pb-dyn/news/99-03132006-625652.html)
He's just reporting that Fox reported it. He doesn't have an additional source.
Quote from: Beermonkey on March 13, 2006, 01:58:24 PM
Vicodin makes me want to have my vasectomy reversed & redone all over again. :yay
I'll bring my pocket knife to the next tailgate and take care of that myself.
Never said it was more than that. Just pointing out that it was mentioned in the paper though....
any move that's an upgrade, however small it may seem, is a positive for a team that has so many needs. With Pinky and Lewis being speed guys, and McMullen not showing much last year, they need a posession WR.
Amazing that Finneran had 50 catches last year from Mikey Vick. That's not so bad.
Quote from: FFatPatt on March 13, 2006, 02:17:02 PM
Amazing that Finneran had 50 catches last year from Mikey Vick. That's not so bad.
and considering how accurate a passer Vick is he must have a 45" vertical leap :-D
Quote from: FFatPatt on March 13, 2006, 02:17:02 PM
Amazing that Finneran had 50 catches last year from Mikey Vick. That's not so bad.
I don't think Vick has ever had a 1,000 yard WR. I think Finneran was the closest in 2003.
He is obviously not the same WR that Reid cut the first time around.
Quote from: goeagles99 on March 13, 2006, 02:05:22 PM
Quote from: Beermonkey on March 13, 2006, 01:58:24 PM
Vicodin makes me want to have my vasectomy reversed & redone all over again. :yay
I'll bring my pocket knife to the next tailgate and take care of that myself.
Probably an upgrade from his initial surgery... just remember the Rumplemintz anaestetic... :o
Quote from: FFatPatt on March 13, 2006, 09:29:46 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 13, 2006, 09:28:38 AM
Reggie will be #1, Pinky #2 and Finneran #3, GLew #4
(http://www.accboards.com/UBB/bomb.gif)
I guess Donovan will be coverage-sacked a lot.
Not likely, with the holes along the offensive line still.
Not likely, with the holes along the offensive line still.
yeah for real
LT - tra - old bad back
lg - hicks - excellent back up
c - fraley - blows - jj - unproven
rg - andrews - suuueeeeeeeeeee
rt - herremans - unproven
Runyan will be back for sure, since Bentley isn't coming.
for sure? you wanna put money on it?
he better be
What happened to Jackson? Did Cleveland kidnap him?
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 13, 2006, 02:48:51 PM
Not likely, with the holes along the offensive line still.
yeah for real
LT - tra - old bad back
lg - hicks - excellent back up
c - fraley - blows - jj - unproven
rg - andrews - suuueeeeeeeeeee
rt - herremans - unproven
Aw shtein... :-D
Say what you want about the guy, but right now he's the best we've got at any position.
I got no problem with Andrews. I think the kid's a stud. That shtein just made me laugh.
what has he ever done to make him a stud
his weight and conditioning is very questionable...he was terrible last year cause of it...i like the kid and he has a huge upside but until he proves he can get in shape he belongs in the questionmark category along with the rest of the line
In my opinion, Pinkston is done. I don't think he can come back and be as effective as he was before, in whatecer capacity he could be considered effective to begin with.
Brown, Finneran, Lewis, McMullen, and a draft pick is my prediction for the WR corps. next year.
Moreover, Pinkston is a big confidence guy, and I don't know how he'll respond after sitting out a whole season and essentially having to get back in the flow of the game. I just don't think he's mentally tough enough to be the player he used to be. I wouldn't be surprised if he's cut during TC.
By that's my humble opinion. I'm also not a Pinkston fan so I wouldn't mind seeing him go.
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 13, 2006, 03:41:19 PM
what has he ever done to make him a stud
his weight and conditioning is very questionable...he was terrible last year cause of it...i like the kid and he has a huge upside but until he proves he can get in shape he belongs in the questionmark category along with the rest of the line
I agree completely. If Andrews is packing 380 again this year and is similar to Andrews of 2005... not good enough.
He could be 450 and he still wouldn't be the weak link on that line.
He doesn't get manhandled by interior linemen. He was one of the few guys last year who could generate a push the five times we decided to run the ball last year. Of course, he's got his weight issues... but like GF said, without Runyan, do you see a better lineman along that line? (Which I know... I know... that's a problem.)
I'll give you though that I meant that I think he will be a stud.
That horrible lardass was a 2nd alternate to the Pro Bowl, FWIW...
Quote from: BigEd76 on March 13, 2006, 03:46:50 PM
That horrible lardass was a 2nd alternate to the Pro Bowl, FWIW...
I never said he was horrible, although he is a lardass.
He was good, but he should be great this year after having another year to get in shape. If he hasn't gotten in shape, then he is what he is.. a decent, serviceable starting guard. Whoop dee damn doo.
last year he wasnt even servicable...he had a bad year period...fraley sucks taint yes but another major culprit in the constant pressure that came up the middle all year was andrews and his inability to do anything but lock down on another man and bullrush them into the ground...he simply was unable to move laterally and when you pass as mucha s the eagle that is unacceptable
Also, making the Pro Bowl doesn't really mean anything/everything, let alone being the 2nd alternate.
Quote from: FFatPatt on March 13, 2006, 03:54:51 PM
Also, making the Pro Bowl doesn't really mean anything/everything, let alone being the 2nd alternate.
For an O-lineman... it has more merit because it means that
your peers noticed and respected the job you did during the season. He damn sure didn't get recognition on his name.
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 13, 2006, 03:53:04 PM
last year he wasnt even servicable...he had a bad year period...fraley sucks taint yes but another major culprit in the constant pressure that came up the middle all year was andrews and his inability to do anything but lock down on another man and bullrush them into the ground...he simply was unable to move laterally and when you pass as mucha s the eagle that is unacceptable
If you're talking about Artis Hicks, then this statement is true. Otherwise, not so much.
if you watched andrews at all last year you saw him consistently get abused in pass protection...he got stunted to death many times as he couldnt move quick enough to get to the second man
pancakes makes the highlites and its what everyone talkes about but theres more to being an offensive lineman
Is anyone else sick and tired of certain people "keepin' it real?"
Today was a damn good day. The Eagles addressed a huge need by signing Darren Howard. How about a little more of this... :) and a lot less of this... :'( in this place?
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 13, 2006, 04:01:49 PM
if you watched andrews at all last year you saw him consistently get abused in pass protection...he got stunted to death many times as he couldnt move quick enough to get to the second man
link?
Look... I'm not saying Andrews doesn't need to improve, but outside of Fraley... Hicks was obviously the weak link on the interior. He was the one getting manhandled anytime there was a big DT on the inside. He was the one routinely missing assignments that let a rusher get through. Proof? Check the ATL game where McNabb took the shot to the sternum... see who Lavalais blasted through to get to McNabb. Check on the last drive, the 4th and 10... the pass that McNabb had to throw early. See who Coleman abused to get the pressure up the gut on McNabb.
Again, Andrews has shtein he has to work on... such as getting his ass out on screens and recognizing the man to block (something he farged up in the Atlanta game as well, among others.. and his weight will need to be under control for him to do so) but last year was practically the kid's rookie season and he was a damn pro-bowl alternate. You make it sound like he sucked... and that just ain't the case. He and Runyan made the right side of the line relatively reliable. He's only going to get better... as long as they keep his big ass at RG and don't slide him out.
in conclusion: if andrews gets in shape skys the limit...if he doesnt hell be out of the league
Whining is whining even if you are whining about whining. ;)
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 13, 2006, 04:33:47 PM
in conclusion: if andrews gets in shape skys the limit...if he doesnt hell be out of the league die
You're probably right.
He re-signs with Atlanta...
whew...
http://www.atlantafalcons.com/default.jsp
Falcons re-sign Finneran (http://www.ajc.com/sports/content/sports/falcons/stories/0314finneran.html)
QuoteFalcons re-sign WR Finneran
By STEVE WYCHE
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Published on: 03/13/06
With veteran free agent Brian Finneran close to signing with the Philadelphia Eagles over the weekend, the Falcons were able to do what the wide receiver has done for them time and time again — do what was needed to make the catch.
The team announced that it re-signed Michael Vick's favorite wide receiver Monday. Finneran signed a four-year contract.
The retention of Finneran, who has been with the Falcons since 2000 and led Atlanta's wide receivers with 50 catches for 611 yards and two touchdowns last season, was considered a priority. Though Finneran is the No. 3 wide receiver behind Michael Jenkins and Roddy White, he has an established trust with Vick — especially in third-down situations.
Of Finneran's catches, 62 percent went for first downs or scores last season. Since 2001, 68 percent of his receptions have been for first downs or touchdowns.
The Falcons also re-signed backup defensive back Omare Lowe, a restricted free agent, to a two-year contract, according to his agent, Ken Zuckerman. Lowe was one of Atlanta's top special teams players and gained enough trust over the season to start in place of injured cornerback DeAngelo Hall in the season-finale against Carolina.
While signing Finneran might not create the stir of some of the other free-agent moves taking place around the league, the team's coaching and management staff felt securing Finneran was crucial in keeping the brunt of the Falcons' receiving nucleus — tight end Alge Crumpler is the team's leading ball catcher — intact.
Finneran became a free agent when his participation in 45 percent of the Falcons' offensive plays triggered a clause in his contract that allowed him to test the open market. Finneran started seven of the 16 games in which he played and also served as one of several punt returns after regular Allen Rossum suffered hamstring and knee injuries.
The Eagles, where Finneran first made an NFL roster after going undrafted out of Villanova, made a serious push for Finneran, but the Falcons' offer and his familiarity with the Falcons' system sealed his return.
HahahahahahahaHAHAHA
Finneran re-signed with the Falcons. 4 year deal. [Didn't see it in this thread yet so don't shoot me]
so get walker?
Quote from: SD_Eagle on March 13, 2006, 04:54:53 PM
Finneran re-signed with the Falcons. 4 year deal. [Didn't see it in this thread yet so don't shoot me]
Bang! bang!
Quote from: SD_Eagle on March 13, 2006, 04:54:53 PM
Finneran re-signed with the Falcons. 4 year deal. [Didn't see it in this thread yet so don't shoot me]
Confirmed
By STEVE WYCHE
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Published on: 03/13/06
With veteran free agent Brian Finneran close to signing with the Philadelphia Eagles over the weekend, the Falcons were able to do what the wide receiver has done for them time and time again — do what was needed to make the catch.
The team announced that it re-signed Michael Vick's favorite wide receiver Monday. Finneran signed a four-year contract.
damn the king reported this an hour ago but i didnt post it for fear the king haters would have a sissy fit
hopefully what he also reported about the eagles being basically done in free agency is not true
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 13, 2006, 04:56:09 PM
damn the king reported this an hour ago but i didnt post it for fear the king haters would have a sissy fit
hopefully what he also reported about the eagles being basically done in free agency is not true
His wife wanted to stay in Atlanta
Quote from: FFatPatt on March 13, 2006, 04:55:37 PM
Quote from: SD_Eagle on March 13, 2006, 04:54:53 PM
Finneran re-signed with the Falcons. 4 year deal. [Didn't see it in this thread yet so don't shoot me]
Bang! bang!
My link's the best. It's atlanta's home page. :P
Quote from: FFatPatt on March 13, 2006, 04:55:37 PM
Quote from: SD_Eagle on March 13, 2006, 04:54:53 PM
Finneran re-signed with the Falcons. 4 year deal. [Didn't see it in this thread yet so don't shoot me]
Bang! bang!
mo money for the Lurie/Banner/Reid trio to pocket >:(
uhh good not get a wr who can play
Wait, so is Finneran being signed by the Eagles tomorrow?
Quote from: FFatPatt on March 13, 2006, 05:00:10 PM
Wait, so is Finneran being signed by the Eagles tomorrow?
NovaCare complex. PC tomorrow morning :D
apparantly he IS at the NovaCare complex right now
He was disguised as Matt Shobel.
Quote from: Sun_Mo on March 13, 2006, 05:03:23 PM
apparantly he IS at the NovaCare complex right now
Ha.
Quote from: Sun_Mo on March 13, 2006, 05:03:23 PM
apparantly he IS at the NovaCare complex right now
Apparently this is the place where the agents make the deals around the NFL.
Apparently... FA's are playing the Eagles like a brand new Nintendo on christmas morning.
I could go for some Contra right now. up up down down left right left right B A start!
Our FO = leagues bitch
Sorry, I don't buy it. NOWHERE else (other than the Fox29 report) was the Finneran thing even mentioned.
Now all of the sudden, they were making a big push for him? ::)
Quote from: FFatPatt on March 13, 2006, 05:09:11 PM
I could go for some Contra right now. up up down down left right left right B A start!
30 men is for rookies. I used to get it done with 1 man.
if you don't hit select before you hit start, your cheat code won't work.
no finneran? bye bye super bowl.
Rule #26 in the credible reports category:
Never trust rumors from local news sports shows such as FOX, NBC or Action News, or CBS Eye Witness News.
Quote from: Philly Forever on March 13, 2006, 05:16:25 PM
Rule #26 in the credible reports category:
Never trust rumors from local news sports shows such as FOX, NBC or Action News, or CBS Eye Witness News.
or obviously John Clayton, Mark Eckel, etc.....for those who all read the reports of Bentley being a done deal.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on March 13, 2006, 05:13:17 PM
Sorry, I don't buy it. NOWHERE else (other than the Fox29 report) was the Finneran thing even mentioned.
Now all of the sudden, they were making a big push for him? ::)
Eye rolling aside, is it so hard to believe that the Eagles made an offer for a capable large-bodied receiver with Philadelphia ties? If anything, I would think apologists would want to support the Eagles on this one.
Plus, it probably had some merit to it if Roob thought it was worth repeating, no?
i'm glad everyone's shorts are in a bind over a discussion revolving around a tall average receiver.
Quote from: FFatPatt on March 13, 2006, 05:17:27 PM
Quote from: PhillyGirl on March 13, 2006, 05:13:17 PM
Sorry, I don't buy it. NOWHERE else (other than the Fox29 report) was the Finneran thing even mentioned.
Now all of the sudden, they were making a big push for him? ::)
Eye rolling aside, is it so hard to believe that the Eagles made an offer for a capable large-bodied receiver with Philadelphia ties? If anything, I would think apologists would want to support the Eagles on this one.
Plus, it probably had some merit to it if Roob thought it was worth repeating, no?
I'm not saying either way. I'm just saying, this rumor was NEVER substantiated with even a LINK (I asked for one a few times) and nothing was mentioned ANYWHERE about this finneran thing.
I don't think anyone is mad that they didn't sign him. I think they're just tired of this crap of local media throwing things against a wall to see what sticks. I'm not even sure where FOX29 came up with that one....
Quote from: BigEd76 on March 13, 2006, 05:22:31 PM
I don't think anyone is mad that they didn't sign him. I think they're just tired of this crap of local media throwing things against a wall to see what sticks. I'm not even sure where FOX29 came up with that one....
Ding ding ding!
I'm just sick of the Eagles being seemingly complacent about improving the team during free agency when they have a massive pile of cap room and went winless in the division last year. That's what I'm sick of.
Yes, I am glad that the Eagles try to build a team through the draft, but there are deep questions on the offensive line, at DT, at SAM LB, at WR, and at backup QB which cannot be fulfilled to my satisfaction in the draft.
Yes, there's plenty of time left and some good players left (Bernard, Peterson, trade for Walker, Runyan) that are still possible. But all indications are that this team is content to pick and poke at a couple of role players and is unwilling to realize that the new CBA made the market a sellers' market.
Quote from: Mad-Lad on March 13, 2006, 05:16:06 PM
if you don't hit select before you hit start, your cheat code won't work.
not true, you only have to hit select if you're playing with 2 people.
Quote from: FFatPatt on March 13, 2006, 05:32:18 PM
I'm just sick of the Eagles being seemingly complacent about improving the team during free agency when they have a massive pile of cap room and went winless in the division last year. That's what I'm sick of.
Yes, I am glad that the Eagles try to build a team through the draft, but there are deep questions on the offensive line, at DT, at SAM LB, at WR, and at backup QB which cannot be fulfilled to my satisfaction in the draft.
Yes, there's plenty of time left and some good players left (Bernard, Peterson, trade for Walker, Runyan) that are still possible. But all indications are that this team is content to pick and poke at a couple of role players and is unwilling to realize that the new CBA made the market a sellers' market.
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Quote from: phattymatty on March 13, 2006, 05:35:22 PM
Quote from: Mad-Lad on March 13, 2006, 05:16:06 PM
if you don't hit select before you hit start, your cheat code won't work.
not true, you only have to hit select if you're playing with 2 people.
Correct! Apparently, Mad-Lad is afraid to play Contra by himself.
Quote from: phattymatty on March 13, 2006, 05:35:22 PM
Quote from: Mad-Lad on March 13, 2006, 05:16:06 PM
if you don't hit select before you hit start, your cheat code won't work.
not true, you only have to hit select if you're playing with 2 people.
For all of you that have friends... hit select.
Quote from: phattymatty on March 13, 2006, 05:35:22 PM
Quote from: Mad-Lad on March 13, 2006, 05:16:06 PM
if you don't hit select before you hit start, your cheat code won't work.
not true, you only have to hit select if you're playing with 2 people.
To this day, I don't know where the whole "select" button came from. My brother and I used to play all the time (I was the blue guy, he was the red)... and we NEVER hit select. The screen would start to scroll by, whoever has player 1 would enter the code (without select) and we'd both play with 30 men.
(up, up, down, down, left, right, left, right, B, A, start)... that was it.
QuoteEagles | Team came close to signing Finneran
Mon, 13 Mar 2006 14:40:35 -0800
Steve Wyche, of the Atlanta Journal-Constitution, reports the Philadelphia Eagles came close to signing WR Brian Finneran, before he decided to re-sign with the Atlanta Falcons
Knowing the Eagles, when they didn't get the player they want they don't go after another player at the same position. They just move on and say oh well.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on March 13, 2006, 05:46:50 PM
QuoteEagles | Team came close to signing Finneran
Mon, 13 Mar 2006 14:40:35 -0800
Steve Wyche, of the Atlanta Journal-Constitution, reports the Philadelphia Eagles came close to signing WR Brian Finneran, before he decided to re-sign with the Atlanta Falcons
Dude. Seriously. Why do you feel the need to post the KFFL blurb that is paraphrasing the full article that had just been posted? Also, if Sirius reports that the Atlanta Journal-Constitution says that the Eagles came close to signing Finneran, you can keep that one to yourself too. Sound good? Thanks.
That's the same exact thing that was already posted. ::)
Sorry I don't catch everything, you can both shove it.
why does this topic have 9 pages?
Quote from: MDS on March 13, 2006, 05:57:43 PM
why does this topic have 9 pages?
It's because of all the KFFL updates. duh.
Quote from: MDS on March 13, 2006, 05:57:43 PM
why does this topic have 9 pages?
It's catching up to the LeCharles Bentley IS in the NovaCare Complex topic.
Quote from: MDS on March 13, 2006, 05:57:43 PM
why does this topic have 9 pages?
because posters like you keep it alive.
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Quote from: Jerome99RIP on March 13, 2006, 06:10:59 PM
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posting pictures of locks and keys, and even a character from Lost. Super.
Beats posting a photo of that racist icehole Chaney as your avatar.
;)
It's time to bring in the Goons.
It's time for the wheel of suspension, I think.
It's time to put an end to this topic.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on March 13, 2006, 06:56:17 PM
It's time to bring in the Goons.
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Quote from: Jerome99RIP on March 13, 2006, 06:51:41 PM
Beats posting a photo of that racist icehole Chaney as your avatar.
;)
Don't you are denounce such a legendary figure. Sure he pretty much ignored white people, but honkeys get enough attention as it is.
can't you all see what free agency is doing to us...
IT'S TEARING US zAPART!!1!@1!
we must be strong
Pizzad.
Quote from: MDS on March 13, 2006, 07:25:19 PM
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on March 13, 2006, 06:51:41 PM
Beats posting a photo of that racist icehole Chaney as your avatar.
;)
Don't you are denounce such a legendary figure. Sure he pretty much ignored white people, but honkeys get enough attention as it is.
thats because its harder to get into Phila Community College than Temple!
So when are the Eagles expected to announce Finneran's signing? Tonight? Tomorrow? I hope it's soon.
:-D :-D :-D
Quote from: phillywin2k5 on March 13, 2006, 09:08:28 PM
Quote from: MDS on March 13, 2006, 07:25:19 PM
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on March 13, 2006, 06:51:41 PM
Beats posting a photo of that racist icehole Chaney as your avatar.
;)
Don't you are denounce such a legendary figure. Sure he pretty much ignored white people, but honkeys get enough attention as it is.
thats because its harder to get into Phila Community College than Temple!
Zing!
I COULD HAVE GONE ANYWHERE. I
CHOSE TEMPLE!
:-D
Quote from: rjs246 on March 13, 2006, 09:10:08 PM
So when are the Eagles expected to announce Finneran's signing? Tonight? Tomorrow? I hope it's soon.
Well, apparently he IS at the NovaCare Center so it could be any minute now.
Quote from: EagleFeva on March 13, 2006, 11:35:52 PM
Quote from: rjs246 on March 13, 2006, 09:10:08 PM
So when are the Eagles expected to announce Finneran's signing? Tonight? Tomorrow? I hope it's soon.
Well, apparently he IS at the NovaCare Center so it could be any minute now.
On that note, this thread needs to have it's ventilator shut down. :-D