Eagles | Team to sign Schobel
Sat, 11 Mar 2006 11:25:25 -0800
Mark Curnutte, of the Cincinnati Enquirer, reports a source told the Enquirer free agent TE Matt Schobel (Bengals) will sign an undisclosed contract with the Philadelphia Eagles. Schobel played four seasons with the Bengals.
Oh boy.
wooooooooooooooooo
I would have preferred Dan Campbell, hes a hell of a blocker.
Im sure the guys a great blocker cause he dont catch FB's. His stats blow.
30 Mil left to spend.
Times yours..........
Schobel ist gut.
YES! .... ::)
They signed the wrong Schobel. :o
This was supposed be the Eagles' big free agency year and they have no scheduled visits on the first day but a TE.
Meanwhile every other team out there is improving their team with big names flying in. :boom
http://frontier.cincinnati.com/blogs/bengals/ (http://frontier.cincinnati.com/blogs/bengals/)
QuoteTight end Matt Schobel will sign with the Philadelphia Eagles, a source told the Enquirer this afternoon.
Schobel played four seasons with the Bengals. He had 18 receptions for 193 yards and one touchdown in 2005 and played, at times, as a blocking H-back in shot-gun passing formations.
Schobel had 90 receptions, nine for touchdowns, in four seasons in Cincinnati.
Bengals.com Bio (http://www.bengals.com/team/player.asp?player_id=15)
This is so much better than getting Vernon Davis or any of the top 6 prospects at that spot... ::)
Whats everyones drug of choice this weekend?
Rum.
Quote from: General_Failure on March 11, 2006, 02:50:19 PM
Rum.
I tried to blow off steam. Do some yard work. Worked out..... 10 days of free agency blue balls and according to Spads, nothing planned either. I think I entered the twilight zone. :paranoid
Anyhow, 40 mg of Valium & Yuengling should start to relieve the pain for me.
All I'll say is, since I don't have season tickets, I buy tickets for games when they go on sale - or at least try to.
If the Eagles don't make a big splash in free agency next year I'm not going to buy tickets. They won't deserve my money. They were supposed to be the big player this offseason, and so far they are the most quiet team out there.
Quote from: Philly Forever on March 11, 2006, 02:58:30 PM
All I'll say is, since I don't have season tickets, I buy tickets for games when they go on sale - or at least try to.
If the Eagles don't make a big splash in free agency next year I'm not going to buy tickets. They won't deserve my money. They were supposed to be the big player this offseason, and so far they are the most quiet team out there.
I like your attitude, and hope everybody else feels the same way; thereby making it easier for me to get tickets.
Looks like I'll be going to a number of games this year with the bandwagon fans jumpin off cause we didn't sign anyone less than 16 hours into free agency.
I'm not jumping off the bandwagon. I still love the team, but I'm not going to dish out the big bucks, unless they have something to show for it at the end of free agency.
I'm not talking about right now. I'm just angry and I'm venting. I'm beside myself right now, and I'm sober right now so the anger is showing even more.
I say we sign CB Fakhir Brown hes not that good a player but man would it be fun to chant his first name at games >:D
Quote from: phillywin2k5 on March 11, 2006, 03:09:37 PM
I say we sign CB Fakhir Brown hes not that good a player but man would it be fun to chant his first name at games >:D
:-D
Matt Schoebel > Stephen Spach
UPGRADE!
We had to get a backup TE somewhere. I'm glad to have him on board.
Here's the link to his info at STATS.com:
http://snap.stats.com/stats/nflinfo/playerstats.asp?id=5953&Submit=Go
He is 6'5, 260. Workout numbers from his Pro Day prior to the Draft:
4.75 in the 40
34.5 VJ
10.0 BJ
Pretty good athlete. Similar player to Chad Lewis. Good rcvr, marginal blocker, good size.
I understand the frustration with the Bentley debacle and the desire to get an impact guy in here.
I don't like it. >:(
If they were going to get another TE it had to be either a phenominal player (Davis) or an outstanding blocker. Schobel is neither.
I believe our old buddy Tony Stewart was taking playing time away from this gem of a player.
I gotta disagree with ya Phreak.
I'm fine with LJ as the starter. I wanted a good backup. A good blocker would have been nice if we were a running team. We're not. We pass the ball 60% of the time. We need a backup TE who can catch the ball. Matt fills that need.
If Vernon is available, I think Reid will find a way to carry 4 TEs on the roster. ;D
Quote from: goeagles99 on March 11, 2006, 04:53:28 PM
I gotta disagree with ya Phreak.
I'm fine with LJ as the starter. I wanted a good backup. A good blocker would have been nice if we were a running team. We're not. We pass the ball 60% of the time. We need a backup TE who can catch the ball. Matt fills that need.
If Vernon is available, I think Reid will find a way to carry 4 TEs on the roster. ;D
Don't mind me, bro. I'm just throwing a temper tantrum. The loss of Bentley pisses me off. :(
But when I read that the first person I thought of was James Whalen.
This F.O. is really starting to piss me off! Why do we have the most undrafted free agents? Because our draft choices have sucked and bombed. Talent evaluators need to get upgraded
FIRE DAVE CULLEY :boom
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on March 11, 2006, 04:55:47 PM
Don't mind me, bro. I'm just throwing a temper tantrum. The loss of Bentley pisses me off. :(
But when I read that the first person I thought of was James Whalen.
No probs. I understand completely. For some reason, I'm taking FA in stride this year.
I was surfing on the Bengals MB trying to get some info on our new stud TE, and I came across this...
http://www.bw63.com/
Quote from: goeagles99 on March 11, 2006, 05:21:47 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on March 11, 2006, 04:55:47 PM
Don't mind me, bro. I'm just throwing a temper tantrum. The loss of Bentley pisses me off. :(
But when I read that the first person I thought of was James Whalen.
No probs. I understand completely. For some reason, I'm taking FA in stride this year.
I took last years in stride. This year is going to cause me to harden my liver to epic proportions. What I am hoping for is that they scoop up Peterson and a DT like tomorrow. That would make me happy.
I'm sure that site is rocking.
Quote from: Die-Hard on March 11, 2006, 05:38:35 PM
I was surfing on the Bengals MB trying to get some info on our new stud TE, and I came across this...
http://www.bw63.com/
Whats next? Swoop gets his own site....WTF?
Quote from: sharpie on March 11, 2006, 05:42:47 PM
Quote from: Die-Hard on March 11, 2006, 05:38:35 PM
I was surfing on the Bengals MB trying to get some info on our new stud TE, and I came across this...
http://www.bw63.com/
Whats next? Swoop gets his own site....WTF?
Worse...
http://www.mannywright.com/
Think he cried about any of the sites content?
I don't think the Schoebel signing is bad at all. In fact, I think its a significant upgrade.
Quote from: Die-Hard on March 11, 2006, 05:51:18 PM
[Worse...
http://www.mannywright.com/
Think he cried about any of the sites content?
My eyes are bleeding... :o
Quote from: rjs246 on March 11, 2006, 05:52:02 PM
I don't think the Schoebel signing is bad at all. In fact, I think its a significant upgrade.
the where's the beef lady would've been an upgrade over spach.
and she's dead.
Quote from: rjs246 on March 11, 2006, 05:52:02 PM
I don't think the Schoebel signing is bad at all. In fact, I think its a significant upgrade.
You're just happy as shtein that it lessens the already microscopic chances of the Eagles drafting a TE in the 1st round.
Quote from: rjs246 on March 11, 2006, 05:52:02 PM
I don't think the Schoebel signing is bad at all. In fact, I think its a significant upgrade.
When Schoebel is an upgrade, you know it's bad.
Better yet, when signing Schoebel makes you happy, you know it's really bad.
Quote from: EagleFeva on March 11, 2006, 05:57:33 PM
Quote from: rjs246 on March 11, 2006, 05:52:02 PM
I don't think the Schoebel signing is bad at all. In fact, I think its a significant upgrade.
You're just happy as shtein that it lessens the already microscopic chances of the Eagles drafting a TE in the 1st round.
I hear they're trading their 1st for the rights to 7 UDFA's.
Quote from: Beermonkey on March 11, 2006, 06:10:14 PM
Quote from: EagleFeva on March 11, 2006, 05:57:33 PM
Quote from: rjs246 on March 11, 2006, 05:52:02 PM
I don't think the Schoebel signing is bad at all. In fact, I think its a significant upgrade.
You're just happy as shtein that it lessens the already microscopic chances of the Eagles drafting a TE in the 1st round.
I hear they're trading their 1st for the rights to 7 UDFA's.
Quantity over quality. YES!!! :yay
Quote from: Die-Hard on March 11, 2006, 06:09:34 PM
Quote from: rjs246 on March 11, 2006, 05:52:02 PM
I don't think the Schoebel signing is bad at all. In fact, I think its a significant upgrade.
When Schoebel is an upgrade, you know it's bad.
Better yet, when signing Schoebel makes you happy, you know it's really bad.
A proven blocking TE was very high on my list of things to get this off season. It could have been done next week rather than today, and it certainly doesn't lessen the sting of the Bentley debacle, but now its done and it helps the team. And it lessens the chances of them drafting a TE in the first round. Which makes me happy.
is it done for sure? has Cleveland had a chance to make their pitch?
Quote from: rjs246 on March 11, 2006, 06:13:50 PM
Quote from: Die-Hard on March 11, 2006, 06:09:34 PM
Quote from: rjs246 on March 11, 2006, 05:52:02 PM
I don't think the Schoebel signing is bad at all. In fact, I think its a significant upgrade.
When Schoebel is an upgrade, you know it's bad.
Better yet, when signing Schoebel makes you happy, you know it's really bad.
A proven blocking TE was very high on my list of things to get this off season. It could have been done next week rather than today, and it certainly doesn't lessen the sting of the Bentley debacle, but now its done and it helps the team. And it lessens the chances of them drafting a TE in the first round. Which makes me happy.
No offense Rjs, but Schobel is hardly a "proven blocking TE". His blocking is marginal. He's a solid receiver though.
Quote from: goeagles99 on March 11, 2006, 05:21:47 PM
No probs. I understand completely. For some reason, I'm taking FA in stride this year.
It might be the beers I drank today or the chinese food I had for dinner but I seem to be taking the Bentley thing much better than I should be.
I'm more angry about no backup plan than no Bentley. We don't get Bentley? Fine.
But you better get Hutchinson or Mawae and someone like Bernard too.
What pisses me off is we are hearing NOTHING.
I am angry about the possibility of no Bentley and no Runyan.
McNabb would have absolutely no time to work with and our running game well would still suck, but that's not the point. McNabb may be a little injury prone and we can't risk it. Get Donovan the best protection we can period.
Quote from: mpmcgraw on March 11, 2006, 07:41:36 PM
I am angry about the possibility of no Bentley and no Runyan.
McNabb would have absolutely no time to work with and our running game well would still suck, but that's not the point. McNabb may be a little injury prone and we can't risk it. Get Donovan the best protection we can period.
WE go with the unsexy pick of an OL in the first round ???
D'Brick won't be there however
I don't mind OL in the first round if we sign a DT and DE in free agency.
and we still got time. Darren Howard and Rocky Bernard aren't reported visiting anywhere yet.
Quote from: Philly Forever on March 11, 2006, 08:32:27 PM
and we still got time. Darren Howard and Rocky Bernard aren't reported visiting anywhere yet.
Don't tell that to Cleveland.
ahhhhh, i remember the good old days, when we were only worried about cleveland signing a wide receiver we wanted the Eagles to get...good times, good times.
Here's what a poster from the EMB pulled from the Sporting News scouting report on Schoebel.
QuoteRanked him #25 TE (LJ Smith was #11)
6-5 257 Age 26
Strengths:Has a nice combination of size and speed. Shows initial quickness off the snap and can avoid jams and get into routes.
Weaknesses: Is a liabitity as a blocker. Lacks upper and lower body strength. Plays too high in the running game and consistently gets out-leveraged.
Bottom Line: Schobel is a one dimensional TE who must be accounted for on passing downs.
This is interesting. Theoretically, a receiving TE to compliment a receiving TE. I like the move. Go team.
When I came to the board the first thing I saw was that Bentley signed with Cleveland. Then I saw a topic called "Our 1st big signing" and opened it thinking something good was actually happening, then I see the name Matt Schobel and smash the lamp next to me.
I dont even hate the signing, but really, this is pretty pathetic so far.
Hey guys...good news.
This has not been confirmed anywhere yet. NO ESPN, No NFL network, no FOX, NO PE.com. Nothing.
Just a beat writer in Cincy.
Much like a beat writer in Philly farged us this morning...maybe this one will help us out.
Pray for no Schobel.
Wait, I thought this dude was a backup/blocker? farging hell.
Tomorrow we get Peterson, Bernard, Givens and Howard.
I swear.
I can;t wait.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on March 11, 2006, 09:55:25 PM
Tomorrow we get Peterson, Bernard, Givens and Howard.
I swear.
I can;t wait.
does this mean I can go to bed now, and they will be there tomorrow? unlike Bently.
I guess as long a Phreak says it and not Eckel. :P
JK dude ;D
Eagles | Schobel contract update
Sat, 11 Mar 2006 18:55:48 -0800
Mark Curnutte, of the Cincinnati Enquirer, reports free agent TE Matt Schobel will get a $1.8 million signing bonus on a five-year contract. He will arrive in Philadelphia on Monday, March 13, to sign his contract and appear at a news conference.
:boo
farg
Quote from: Philly Forever on March 11, 2006, 10:05:07 PM
Eagles | Schobel contract update
Sat, 11 Mar 2006 18:55:48 -0800
Mark Curnutte, of the Cincinnati Enquirer, reports free agent TE Matt Schobel will get a $1.8 million signing bonus on a five-year contract. He will arrive in Philadelphia on Monday, March 13, to sign his contract and appear at a news conference.
Horseshtein. :boo
Quote from: dis12 on March 11, 2006, 10:04:17 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on March 11, 2006, 09:55:25 PM
Tomorrow we get Peterson, Bernard, Givens and Howard.
I swear.
I can;t wait.
does this mean I can go to bed now, and they will be there tomorrow? unlike Bently.
I guess as long a Phreak says it and not Eckel. :P
JK dude ;D
I'm going to pray to the football gods. Say your prayers tonight and maybe even you can sacrifice that Reno Mahe jersey to them as an offering. ;D
Hey...at least he's cheap. :-\
this is farging Twilight Zone shtein, no doubt. i am glad i sent my 1st $300 to the team yesterday
Lol, do we really need to have a press conference for this guy? :-D
For real... it's pretty embarassing. :boo
Hell yeah.
Then the Philly media can ask Big Red why they are trotting this guy out there and not someone worth a shtein. And then Mark Eckel can get some more inside info and we'll have another bogus story on Monday. Yay!
Even though I am pissed that this guy:
a. eliminates the possibility of Vernon Davis
b. isn't a great blocker
He could still be a decent addition provided they do something else. He will help in the RZ. And he ain't no Stephen Spach...which is good.
I'll just say that I am one big name signing away from totally losing it.
If one of Hutchinson, Bernard, or Howard get signed by someone, I'm seriously going to lose it. I can't believe this mother farging team has the FARGING BALLS, to not do SHTEIN so far. Where do they get the balls?
Where do they get the farging balls to finish 6-10 and give us a backup TE and nothing else on day one with no visits? farg them. The more I think about it the more steamed I get.
It's incomprehensible.
Thing is... we've been waiting for this farging day really since McNabb went down. We watched the rest of that zesty ass season knowing that we'd get a chance to get back to the top where we should be. A few days before, word gets out that we got a STUD that's gonna be the 1st step of putting 2005 to rest and moving ahead. We had to wait even longer through all that CBA bullshtein... but we knew that good shtein was coming.
We waited for MONTHS for this day... and were expecting LeCharles Bentley, 2 time Pro-Bowler with a farging mean streak... and we got... Matt... farging... Schoebel. A 2nd TE who can't block to save his life to compliment or 1st TE who can't block to save his life.
This was a zesty farging day... no doubt about it. farg this, I'm getting off this damn computer... and I'm done with football for the night because if I keep looking, I'm gonna see that somebody else we wanted signed somewhere else and I'm just gonna get even more heated.
I'll catch you cats tomorrow....
Good idea. It's nice outside, I'm going to go hit the basketball courts for a couple hours.
I swear to god, if I come on tomorrow and we still have no visits, the Eagles are even more of a joke than Ed Wade and the Phillies. Yes, I mean that.
I can't imagine how mad I'll be tomorrow if there is still no word, but I have a gut feeling that I'll come on tomorrow and still no scheduled visits. What a joke it's going to be.
I've been drinking Red Stripe w/Capt Morgan (also mixed in a few Maker's Mark and Coke as well) since 4 o'clock and I'd still like to kill someone right now.
Jesus you guys need to get a grip. This isn't even surprising, is it? Especially with the "How can they do this to the fans?" I thought you idiots knew they didn't give a rat's ass about us. I think Reid and Co. want to win, I really do. But not for us. And if they think they can do it with the guys they have, they'll try.
Aren't you the same bunch of guys spouting "They deserve the benefit of the doubt"? All it took was one below .500 season to cure that. And a lot of booze.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on March 11, 2006, 10:12:47 PM
Hey...at least he's cheap. :-\
Yeah, ridiculously so. In fact, he's so cheap that I don't think it eliminates the possibility of getting any other TE. In the meantime, the Eagles have an NFL-caliber backup to L.J. on the roster (unlike James Whalen last year), and they can consider case closed until the draft. The Eagles could still take a TE if he's at the top of their board after the 1st or 2nd round, but they don't HAVE to.
Quote from: MadMarchHare on March 11, 2006, 11:26:11 PM
Jesus you guys need to get a grip. This isn't even surprising, is it? Especially with the "How can they do this to the fans?" I thought you idiots knew they didn't give a rat's ass about us. I think Reid and Co. want to win, I really do. But not for us. And if they think they can do it with the guys they have, they'll try.
Aren't you the same bunch of guys spouting "They deserve the benefit of the doubt"? All it took was one below .500 season to cure that. And a lot of booze.
I'd rather wait to the end of the FA prime-signing period before I go into the Chicken Little routine.
Quote from: Geowhizzer on March 12, 2006, 07:52:07 AM
Quote from: MadMarchHare on March 11, 2006, 11:26:11 PM
Jesus you guys need to get a grip. This isn't even surprising, is it? Especially with the "How can they do this to the fans?" I thought you idiots knew they didn't give a rat's ass about us. I think Reid and Co. want to win, I really do. But not for us. And if they think they can do it with the guys they have, they'll try.
Aren't you the same bunch of guys spouting "They deserve the benefit of the doubt"? All it took was one below .500 season to cure that. And a lot of booze.
I'd rather wait to the end of the FA prime-signing period before I go into the Chicken Little routine.
That's no fun. Have to get it all in within the first day or you lose the impact.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on March 11, 2006, 04:50:12 PM
I don't like it. >:(
If they were going to get another TE it had to be either a phenomenal player (Davis) or an outstanding blocker. Schobel is neither.
I believe our old buddy Tony Stewart was taking playing time away from this gem of a player.
I'll go further. I hate it. Back-up in Cincy- what a fantastic credential that is. We need a much above average blocker to help max protect our increasingly injured QB, especially since we have a very poor fullback and the fact besides Westbrook, none of our RBs can pick up a blitz. It'll be a miracle if McNabb lasts long this season.
true but Mcnabb was hurt in preseason. I agree i'm all for gettin a TE in the draft like a Byrd from SC. Sign Schobel but make sure the deal is front loaded.
I was thinking that Schobel wouldn't be place holder here, because they would rather have a more qualified guy out there for fake field goals and stuff, but the more I thought about it, he's probably has a better arm and is more accurate than Detmer.
So maybe he will be our holder.
Wasn't Schobel the starting TE for the Bengals?
NFL.com has him listed as the backup, but he had more receptions and a higher YPC than the stater.
They kind of rotated there.
Him, Tony Stewart (remember him?) and Reggie Kelly all shared time.
Someone will have to keep me up to date with all the exciting updates from the 10am broadcast of the Schobel press conference and Eagles Live. I'm sure Spadaro is going to announce at least 8 other visits! w0ot!
You know Spads is dreading going on the air today... I wouldn't be surprised if he ran the fight song right after the PC and called it a day. :-D
no one forces him to take calls do they?
That's the point, bucko. He knows he's going to be lambasted by Eagle fans over the FO signing Schoebel... he may just take his ball and go home.
The last two days he has been on the verge of a meltdown.
Sunday's show was classic. He was pissed that ARE went to Washington and yesterday he kept saying "what will teh Eagles do with all of this money..they have to spend it, right?"
schoebel is actually a good signing...i like it
And why might that be?
Again, the thing that's telling to me is that they didn't give Howard all of his up-front money as a roster bonus. If they seriously didn't plan on using their 2006 cap room, then why prorate that money, when you can have it all hit in 2006? After all, it's the same $$$ to Howard and the same $$$ from Lurie either way.
I just don't get it. They could have taken a $10.5m cap hit for Howard, but they took less than $4m. WTF?
Me too.
I am past my temper tantrum that I threw on Saturday and Sunday.
He's a solid #2 TE which Spach wasn't and Chad couldn't be anymore.
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 14, 2006, 08:59:35 AM
no one forces him to take calls do they?
I highly doubt the Eagles tell Spew "Listen pal, you're GOING to take calls from the same dozen idiots every day there's a press conference and you'll LIKE IT!"
Quote from: FFatPatt on March 14, 2006, 09:06:10 AM
Again, the thing that's telling to me is that they didn't give Howard all of his up-front money as a roster bonus. If they seriously didn't plan on using their 2006 cap room, then why prorate that money, when you can have it all hit in 2006? After all, it's the same $$$ to Howard and the same $$$ from Lurie either way.
I just don't get it. They could have taken a $10.5m cap hit for Howard, but they took less than $4m. WTF?
John Runyan would be my guess. And they had to make sure they had enough cash around to re-up Reno. The team would have been doomed to failure with out him.
And why might that be?
he was the best FA TE available and will be a perfect compliment to lj by taking some of the burden off him by giving him less snaps...hes a big boy and will be a nice target for donovan...i expect him to be real successful inside the ten....wouldnt be surprised to see him get 6-7 td's this year
That's funny and all, but my question is a serious one. The Eagles are staring at no less than $25 million in 2006 cap space after Owens is cut today. Even if they sign Runyan and escalate his entire bonus to 2006, they're still at no less than $17 million. Not using it on the few players you do sign makes no sense unless you really plan on signing more players.
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 14, 2006, 09:13:37 AM
And why might that be?
he was the best FA TE available and will be a perfect compliment to lj by taking some of the burden off him by giving him less snaps...hes a big boy and will be a nice target for donovan...i expect him to be real successful inside the ten....wouldnt be surprised to see him get 6-7 td's this year
I don't "hate" the signing, but don't you think we could have been better served with a guy like Dan Campbell who's a better blocker or even go into the draft where it's really deep at TE?
they dont run so a blocking TE is worthless...they dont have any wr's so another pass catching option is not a bad thing...they were real succesful with lj and chad a couple years ago...and thats what they have again
jeb putzier would've been better.
Quote from: hunt on March 14, 2006, 09:27:42 AM
jeb putzier would've been better.
Admit that you just like his name more.
Putzier...not really a fan of him. He was a RFA and the Jets signed him to a offer sheet and the Broncs matched. Then they cut him.
I kind of wanted Chris Baker...but Schobel is cool.
His nickname is gay though...
The Schoeboat.
Gay, gay, gay.
But, Phreak, he can hold.
too bad he's not a longsnapper too.
The press conference is about to start. Dave just referred to Schobel as the "newest Eagle", so it's a done deal.
*Golf clap*
My nipples are like little diamonds over the forthcoming announcement...
how good is a lj schobel veedee te trio gonna look
My first chuckle of the day came from that. Holla!
Schobel wearing #89
wow, going right after that chad lewis legacy
He signed today....said it happened pretty quick. This is where he wanted to be, had a few other calls and such, but he wanted to be here.
I guess they really do want Schobel to replace Lewis: he's going to wear #89.
-says that perception is that he's a pass-catching TE only, but that he feels his blocking is a lot better than when he came into the league and that he is continually working on it
-sounds like the guy's just happen to have a damn job... Eagles made an offer on day one which got his attention
This is where he wanted to be, had a few other calls and such, but he wanted to be here
if i had a dollar for everytime an athlete said this right after signing with a team....
Hey... all of you posting one sentence at a time can have a suckle of my o-ring or a mushroom tattoo. Cool?
easy with the o-ring jokes...scrudboy's situation is no laughing matter.
Quote from: hunt on March 14, 2006, 11:09:34 AM
easy with the o-ring jokes...scrudboy's situation is no laughing matter.
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Hey... Schobel says he's really gotten better at run blocking! Yay!
not that he'll need to do much of that here.
They might as well start every game in a 2 TE set. Anything to take Parry out of the starting lineup.
Can't wait to hear Dave ask the tough one-on-one questions:
"How are you?"
"Exciting day?"
Maybe Schobel will punch Spew in the face and he'll become my favorite Eagle ever. :crazy
Quote from: PhillyGirl on March 14, 2006, 11:13:25 AM
Maybe Schobel will punch Spew in the face and he'll become my favorite Eagle ever. :crazy
Spads would straight up deck his puss.
George (sic) Mohrninweg told him that they plan to run a lot of 2 TE sets.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v101/ananumuss/6984290.jpg)
look where he carries the ball, remind you of our other tight end?
on better news didn't he score a 74 yrd TD last year against dallas?
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v101/ananumuss/j.jpg)
thats always a good start for me. i'm not impressed, but then again, its better than lewis, spach, bartrum combo of years past. hes good for 20 catches and 1-3 TD's.
Maybe Schobel will punch Spew in the face and he'll become my favorite Eagle ever
IN
oh please, the guy is pulling his arm down in the picture. ::)
Quote from: PhillyGirl on March 14, 2006, 11:16:58 AM
oh please, the guy is pulling his arm down in the picture. ::)
It looks like the guy is grabbing for jersey.
look closer PG thats not his arm, its HIS PENIS!
No but really hes got his leg
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QuoteBengals tight end Matt Schobel scampers 76 yards for a touchdown.
Well... he's got speed.
regardless, he's being pulled DOWN and that's why the ball is where it is. Its pretty obvious.
Pulling out a pic like that and saying, "this is how he holds the ball" is plain gay.
In Feva's post, it looks like he's holding it like an infant baby.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on March 14, 2006, 11:19:41 AM
regardless, he's being pulled DOWN and that's why the ball is where it is. Its pretty obvious.
Pulling out a pic like that and saying, "this is how he holds the ball" is plain gay.
but not as gay as scanning the pic for a glimpse of his penis.
twas a joke ::)
LMAO about how they explain his TD: "scampers" for 76 yrd TD
The ref in that pick looks like Colin Mochrie.
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Quote from: FFatPatt on March 14, 2006, 11:20:37 AM
In Feva's post, it looks like he's holding it like an infant baby.
Yeah, I noticed that... has a Tiki'esque quality to it, doesn't it?
matt(damnit) schobel doesn't hold infant babies, he chokes them and runs for 76 yards
Hope they address the FB spot, really. I know the Mattster has played some h-back...so when I think about this move, my mind sort of wanders to hoping they get a kick-ass FB before the season starts.
Inside Matt Schobels helmet is not his face, but another penis!
Quote from: Zanshin on March 14, 2006, 11:28:41 AM
Hope they address the FB spot, really. I know the Mattster has played some h-back...so when I think about this move, my mind sort of wanders to hoping they get a kick-ass FB before the season starts.
They won't. They think Tapeh is ready to come back and give Parry a run, and they use a fullback precisely never.
Matt Schobel CAN believe it's not butter.
The Schoboat doesn't scamper 76 yards.
The Schoboat powers his way 76 yards.
Schoboat > everyone
oh god please don't let this thread turn into another ripoff of those lame chuck norris/bill braskey jokes that were never funny to begin with.
Caller on with Spew just asked about bringing back Freddie.
LOL
Quote from: hunt on March 14, 2006, 11:34:10 AM
oh god please don't let this thread turn into another ripoff of those lame chuck norris/bill braskey jokes that were never funny to begin with.
good point, we have to get back to some serious backup TE discussion here. next topic: punting situations, where's he gonna line up? mysteries abound!
Quote from: hunt on March 14, 2006, 11:34:10 AM
oh god please don't let this thread turn into another ripoff of those lame chuck norris/bill braskey jokes that were never funny to begin with.
I've been meaning to ask you this...
what the hell is up with your sig? Any reason you chose that?
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on March 14, 2006, 11:36:37 AM
Quote from: hunt on March 14, 2006, 11:34:10 AM
oh god please don't let this thread turn into another ripoff of those lame chuck norris/bill braskey jokes that were never funny to begin with.
I've been meaning to ask you this...
what the hell is up with your sig? Any reason you chose that?
there's a reason for everything, phreak.
if birds and bunnies can get along & carry on a civilized conversation, why can't all of us?
Scampers!
:-D
Ok.
It would be better if it were a cat and a dog or a cat and a mouse. True mortal enemies.
But keep on rockin it. :yay
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on March 14, 2006, 11:36:37 AM
Quote from: hunt on March 14, 2006, 11:34:10 AM
oh god please don't let this thread turn into another ripoff of those lame chuck norris/bill braskey jokes that were never funny to begin with.
I've been meaning to ask you this...
what the hell is up with your sig? Any reason you chose that?
I'm thinking it has to do with lil chick going "cheep...cheep". It's either that or hunt likes bunnies.
Quote from: hunt on March 14, 2006, 11:40:25 AM
if birds and bunnies can get along & carry on a civilized conversation, why can't all of us?
I think that's a pig, not a bunny.
its a peep
comin for easter
Quote from: Beermonkey on March 14, 2006, 11:43:43 AM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on March 14, 2006, 11:36:37 AM
Quote from: hunt on March 14, 2006, 11:34:10 AM
oh god please don't let this thread turn into another ripoff of those lame chuck norris/bill braskey jokes that were never funny to begin with.
I've been meaning to ask you this...
what the hell is up with your sig? Any reason you chose that?
I'm thinking it has to do with lil chick going "cheep...cheep". It's either that or hunt likes bunnies.
cheap.......cheap
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Did Schobel break that tackle, or not? That's what I want to know. God, I hope so.
Quote from: FFatPatt on March 14, 2006, 05:12:04 PM
Did Schobel break that tackle, or not? That's what I want to know. God, I hope so.
it's against Simoneau...what do u think.
That's what I'm saying. It would be a concern if he did not.
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Here's a photo taken 30 yards after the earlier one.
:-D
:-D
:-D
count me in :-D
Simoneau's 'ceps are bigger and more defined than Schobel's, right beermonkey?
Notice the well toned muscle on Simoneau's right forearm. There's a man who spends many nights alone.
:-D
pad
Quote from: General_Failure on March 14, 2006, 05:46:47 PM
Notice the well toned muscle on Simoneau's right forearm. There's a man who spends many nights alone.
Now there is a post worthy of praise! All hail the killer of fun. Post no nonsense on his board! The nonsense is only for HIM to post. Learn it well.
You gonna cry in your beer about it?
almost certainly. minus the crying.
Would it cheer you up to repeat the same five phrases over and over?
Dude, you should know by now the answer to that is yes.
Quote from: EagleFeva on March 14, 2006, 05:04:20 PM
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Look at Schobel's face in that pic. Looks like Sims is really giving the guy all he can handle.
Or at least holding on for dear life.
I'll toss in my two cents, I think Schobel is a damn good signing, it fills a need, and I think the guy has upside. Cincy never threw the ball to any of their TEs, I think between the three they had a total of 35-40 catches. If I remember Schobel was pretty highly ranked in terms of TEs in his draft class, which was a pretty good one.
Name RD Pick TeamJeremy Shockey 1 14 N.Y. Giants
Daniel Graham 1 21 New England
Jerramy Stevens 1 28 Seattle
Doug Jolley 2 55 Oakland
Matt Schobel 3 67 Cincinnati Chris Baker 3 88 N.Y. Jets
Justin Peelle 4 103 San Diego
Randy McMichael 4 114 Miami
Some pretty good TE's were taken before and after the dude.
Here is his write-up from the '02 Draft from NFL.com:
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Matt Schobel
Position: Tight End
College: Texas Christian
Height: 6-5
Weight: 263
Hometown: Columbus, Texas
ANALYSIS
Positives: Physical position blocker who has nimble feet and does a nice job escaping the jam to get into his routes ... Has excellent lateral agility and uses his hands well to lock on and ride the defender wide ... Catches well in the short area ... Has an explosive initial burst off the snap ... Decisive moving out to neutralize the linebackers ... Stays low while trying to out-muscle defenders ... Good in-line battler who has the quickness to hook defensive ends inside on sweeps ... Extends his arms to catch away from the framework ... Maintains balance when engaging defenders ... Has the short area speed to line up in a variety of slots ... Looks in the routine pass, making proper jumps to get to the ball at its highest point ... Possesses the speed to threaten the seam.
Negatives: Has limited starting experience ... More of a finesse blocker, lacking explosion behind his hits ... Will lean into the defender and waist bends at times when trying to recover ... Not real shifty running after the catch and does not run his routes with much urgency ... Needs to sustain blocks better, as he relies too much on using his size ... Pops straight up and does not drive off the ball with authority ... Not a "gym rat" and will go at his own pace in the weight room ... Tough player, but does not play with the aggressiveness or intensity you'd expect.
I am happy with the Schobel signing, when all's said and done.
Quote from: PhillyPhaninDC on March 14, 2006, 06:08:21 PM
Quote from: EagleFeva on March 14, 2006, 05:04:20 PM
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Look at Schobel's face in that pic. Looks like Sims is really giving the guy all he can handle.
Or at least holding on for dear life.
I'll toss in my two cents, I think Schobel is a damn good signing, it fills a need, and I think the guy has upside. Cincy never threw the ball to any of their TEs, I think between the three they had a total of 35-40 catches. If I remember Schobel was pretty highly ranked in terms of TEs in his draft class, which was a pretty good one.
Name RD Pick Team
Jeremy Shockey 1 14 N.Y. Giants
Daniel Graham 1 21 New England
Jerramy Stevens 1 28 Seattle
Doug Jolley 2 55 Oakland
Matt Schobel 3 67 Cincinnati
Chris Baker 3 88 N.Y. Jets
Justin Peelle 4 103 San Diego
Randy McMichael 4 114 Miami
Some pretty good TE's were taken before and after the dude.
Here is his write-up from the '02 Draft from NFL.com:
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Matt Schobel
Position: Tight End
College: Texas Christian
Height: 6-5
Weight: 263
Hometown: Columbus, Texas
ANALYSIS
Positives: Physical position blocker who has nimble feet and does a nice job escaping the jam to get into his routes ... Has excellent lateral agility and uses his hands well to lock on and ride the defender wide ... Catches well in the short area ... Has an explosive initial burst off the snap ... Decisive moving out to neutralize the linebackers ... Stays low while trying to out-muscle defenders ... Good in-line battler who has the quickness to hook defensive ends inside on sweeps ... Extends his arms to catch away from the framework ... Maintains balance when engaging defenders ... Has the short area speed to line up in a variety of slots ... Looks in the routine pass, making proper jumps to get to the ball at its highest point ... Possesses the speed to threaten the seam.
Negatives: Has limited starting experience ... More of a finesse blocker, lacking explosion behind his hits ... Will lean into the defender and waist bends at times when trying to recover ... Not real shifty running after the catch and does not run his routes with much urgency ... Needs to sustain blocks better, as he relies too much on using his size ... Pops straight up and does not drive off the ball with authority ... Not a "gym rat" and will go at his own pace in the weight room ... Tough player, but does not play with the aggressiveness or intensity you'd expect.
Who gives a shtein where he was drafted or how the guys above him and below him have done? All that matters is how he has done. He is exceedingly mediocre. That being said, his overall contributions will be directly proportional to the confidence Donovan has in him. I don't honestly believe that Reid had any Chad Lewis plays on his card the years when Lewis made the Probowl.
Quote from: stalker on March 14, 2006, 06:15:05 PM
Who gives a shtein where he was drafted or how the guys above him and below him have done? All that matters is how he has done. He is exceedingly mediocre. That being said, his overall contributions will be directly proportional to the confidence Donovan has in him. I don't honestly believe that Reid had any Chad Lewis plays on his card the years when Lewis made the Probowl.
My point fargstick, is that the guy should be a capable backup, and has talent. I wasn't pimping him as the greatest TE ever. Cincy never utilized a TE in their offense, other than to stay in and block for Rudi Johnson. The only time they had a ball come their way was when Kitna/Palmer checked down. So it's a possiblity the guy has some talent that wasn't used in Cincy, and it may be here.
To sum up, suck my balls, you waste of space.
Poetry, PPinDC.
Where do you draw the conclusion that he has talent and should be a capable backup? Sure he MAY have talent. I don't put much stock in draft evaluations (Quentin Caver) or Combine results (Mike Mamula). He has not shown that he is demonstably better than Steven Spach, or worse. I am one, however, who believes in Reid's pro evaluations and accept but am non-plussed by this signing.
Imagine this, I can disagree without a personal attack.
Quote from: stalker on March 14, 2006, 09:52:32 PM
Where do you draw the conclusion that he has talent and should be a capable backup? Sure he MAY have talent. I don't put much stock in draft evaluations (Quentin Caver) or Combine results (Mike Mamula). He has not shown that he is demonstably better than Steven Spach, or worse. I am one, however, who believes in Reid's pro evaluations and accept but am non-plussed by this signing.
Imagine this, I can disagree without a personal attack.
Me too. Shut up. Would you rather have James Whalen back?
Quote from: stalker on March 14, 2006, 09:52:32 PM
Where do you draw the conclusion that he has talent and should be a capable backup? Sure he MAY have talent. I don't put much stock in draft evaluations (Quentin Caver) or Combine results (Mike Mamula). He has not shown that he is demonstably better than Steven Spach, or worse. I am one, however, who believes in Reid's pro evaluations and accept but am non-plussed by this signing.
Imagine this, I can disagree without a personal attack.
This guy has actually made plays in his career, that already makes him better than Spach.
i didn't see anywhere on his positives if he can catch drop and roll though. thats huge in our offense, HUGE
Quote from: mussa on March 15, 2006, 12:27:41 AM
i didn't see anywhere on his positives if he can catch drop and roll though. thats huge in our offense, HUGE
Chad Lewis should be able to teach him that.
Quote from: FreakisaKearseWord on March 14, 2006, 10:50:35 PM
Quote from: stalker on March 14, 2006, 09:52:32 PM
Where do you draw the conclusion that he has talent and should be a capable backup? Sure he MAY have talent. I don't put much stock in draft evaluations (Quentin Caver) or Combine results (Mike Mamula). He has not shown that he is demonstably better than Steven Spach, or worse. I am one, however, who believes in Reid's pro evaluations and accept but am non-plussed by this signing.
Imagine this, I can disagree without a personal attack.
Me too. Shut up.
Would you rather have James Whalen back?
No. I must reitterate that I am a fan of Reid's pro evaluations and his belief in niche type players.
And.......Schoebel's wife is a hot smokin' piece of ass!