http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2360258
six year extension! now the taterskins can fire up taterskins one and go spend big money on overrated players!
Rich Eisen said on NFL Network the expected cap for this year is 105 million. how much are the Eagles under it?
28 million I believe.
Adding on the $10 mill from $94.5 to $105 mill... once we release TO, I think the number ends up around $28 mill.
get...everybody.
any truth to the rumor that Joe Banner is walking around the airport in Dallas with a huge erection?
The Vikings are going to go into a fricken rage in free agency this year.
the two teams that voted against it was the bills and cinci. those are the poorest teams. That must mean good things for the taterskins.... and the eagles too.
great, rich shmucks in suits agreed to spread billions of dollars
and their still negotiating the only thing anyone really cares about.. the start of free agency.
Mortenson reported it's 102 million this year and 109 next year, and free agency will probably be pushed back until 12:01 am SATURDAY not friday due to request to Tags.
check that 24-48 hr. hiatus.
salary cap this year- 102 million.
salary cap next year- 109 million.
can only sign draft picks to a maximum of 4 yrs.
can't tag a player more then twice in a row.
as per nfl network.
Quote from: Philly Forever on March 08, 2006, 09:46:32 PM
Mortenson reported it's 102 million this year and 109 next year, and free agency will probably be pushed back until 12:01 am SATURDAY not friday due to request to Tags.
I'm tired & my clicking finger is swollen...when's the deadline to get under the cap?
Quote from: Beermonkey on March 08, 2006, 09:48:25 PM
Quote from: Philly Forever on March 08, 2006, 09:46:32 PM
Mortenson reported it's 102 million this year and 109 next year, and free agency will probably be pushed back until 12:01 am SATURDAY not friday due to request to Tags.
I'm tired & my clicking finger is swollen...when's the deadline to get under the cap?
I'm going to delay my answer until I decide to tell you that I don't know.
Quote from: Beermonkey on March 08, 2006, 09:48:25 PM
Quote from: Philly Forever on March 08, 2006, 09:46:32 PM
Mortenson reported it's 102 million this year and 109 next year, and free agency will probably be pushed back until 12:01 am SATURDAY not friday due to request to Tags.
I'm tired & my clicking finger is swollen...when's the deadline to get under the cap?
The CBA is extended, I think it's moot now.
Quote from: Philly Forever on March 08, 2006, 09:51:17 PM
Quote from: Beermonkey on March 08, 2006, 09:48:25 PM
Quote from: Philly Forever on March 08, 2006, 09:46:32 PM
Mortenson reported it's 102 million this year and 109 next year, and free agency will probably be pushed back until 12:01 am SATURDAY not friday due to request to Tags.
I'm tired & my clicking finger is swollen...when's the deadline to get under the cap?
The CBA is extended, I think it's moot now.
No, team's still need to be under the new cap by XX:XX. The teams have more room & won't have to cut as many, but there's still a cap to comply with, only now, it's defined.
Quote from: Philly Forever on March 08, 2006, 09:51:17 PM
Quote from: Beermonkey on March 08, 2006, 09:48:25 PM
Quote from: Philly Forever on March 08, 2006, 09:46:32 PM
Mortenson reported it's 102 million this year and 109 next year, and free agency will probably be pushed back until 12:01 am SATURDAY not friday due to request to Tags.
I'm tired & my clicking finger is swollen...when's the deadline to get under the cap?
The CBA is extended, I think it's moot now.
No, I'm pretty sure there's still a date where teams have to be under the cap... only now they have to be under $102 mil. There are teams that still need to get under that number. It's just that with all these delays, extended dealines and everything else... no one knows when the hell that time is.
Quote from: EagleFeva on March 08, 2006, 09:55:03 PM
Quote from: Philly Forever on March 08, 2006, 09:51:17 PM
Quote from: Beermonkey on March 08, 2006, 09:48:25 PM
Quote from: Philly Forever on March 08, 2006, 09:46:32 PM
Mortenson reported it's 102 million this year and 109 next year, and free agency will probably be pushed back until 12:01 am SATURDAY not friday due to request to Tags.
I'm tired & my clicking finger is swollen...when's the deadline to get under the cap?
The CBA is extended, I think it's moot now.
No, I'm pretty sure there's still a date where teams have to be under the cap... only now they have to be under $102 mil. There are teams that still need to get under that number. It's just that with all these delays, extended dealines and everything else... no one knows when the hell that time is.
That's what I thought. I'm just curious who's going to shake loose from other teams.
I thought the date this week was only in danger of the CBA not being extended, and if it was extended the date would be father down the road.
Quote from: Philly Forever on March 08, 2006, 10:04:32 PM
I thought the date this week was only in danger of the CBA not being extended, and if it was extended the date would be father down the road.
I'll post it when I find out. They may not even know yet.
Last I read, it was set for 11:00 tonight but doubt that'll stick.
Schefter on NFL-N says that free agency will begin in 48-72 hours.
So Saturday or Sunday.
Sweet. :yay
$102mil. A great compromise. Gives the Eagles even more room to work and makes the taterskins sweat just a bit more. Perfect.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on March 08, 2006, 10:56:04 PM
Schefter on NFL-N says that free agency will begin in 48-72 hours.
So Saturday or Sunday.
Sweet. :yay
so is bentley sleeping on the sidewalk outside the novacare center?
Yes.
And a bum just urinated on him and stole his Rolex.
As long as he's not shot in the stomach I think we're in business.
Quote from: EagleFeva on March 08, 2006, 09:03:53 PM
Adding on the $10 mill from $94.5 to $105 mill... once we release TO, I think the number ends up around $28 mill.
Right now, with Owens' contract being taken off the books, the Eagles are at 18.7M--and that INCLUDES their RFA tenders. With an extra 7.5M, that's 26.2M--they recoup 7M from LTBEs that won't hit this year's cap now and I believe they recoup another 7M on 30%-rule payouts that now do not have to be made. So, they'll be roughly 40.2M BELOW the cap.
Oh, my.
Awesome.
Quote from: bobbyinlondon on March 08, 2006, 11:25:12 PM
Quote from: EagleFeva on March 08, 2006, 09:03:53 PM
Adding on the $10 mill from $94.5 to $105 mill... once we release TO, I think the number ends up around $28 mill.
Right now, with Owens' contract being taken off the books, the Eagles are at 18.7M--and that INCLUDES their RFA tenders. With an extra 7.5M, that's 26.2M--they recoup 7M from LTBEs that won't hit this year's cap now and I believe they recoup another 7M on 30%-rule payouts that now do not have to be made. So, they'll be roughly 40.2M BELOW the cap.
That can't be right.
I haven't seen bobby post wrong on technical shtein like this, and I'm certainly not going to look it up for myself...so I say YAY! 40.2 Million below the cap! Yay!! Spend money!!!
Get Anderson. Throw lotsa money at him. Lotsa.
Quote from: MadMarchHare on March 09, 2006, 08:34:05 AM
Get Anderson. Throw lotsa money at him. Lotsa.
Lotsa? No thanks. Maybe an average of just over $2 million a year maximum. Just because the salary cap is a little bigger is no reason to completely break the bank on a backup running back, no matter how good a fit he is.
there is no reason not to keep Jon Runyan if they have much money under the cap.
Quote from: bobbyinlondon on March 08, 2006, 11:25:12 PM
Quote from: EagleFeva on March 08, 2006, 09:03:53 PM
Adding on the $10 mill from $94.5 to $105 mill... once we release TO, I think the number ends up around $28 mill.
Right now, with Owens' contract being taken off the books, the Eagles are at 18.7M--and that INCLUDES their RFA tenders. With an extra 7.5M, that's 26.2M--they recoup 7M from LTBEs that won't hit this year's cap now and I believe they recoup another 7M on 30%-rule payouts that now do not have to be made. So, they'll be roughly 40.2M BELOW the cap.
That sounds really off.
as i said from the beginning the taterskins will go out and get basically who they want...its not if they will be able to get players its who they are gonna get
at the end of free agency you will see the taterskins having been just as active as the eagles
taterskins Ready, Eager to Address Needs
taterskins Ready, Eager to Address Needs
By Jason La Canfora
Washington Post Staff Writer
Thursday, March 9, 2006; E01
With the NFL's new labor agreement in place, the Washington taterskins are prepared to make a significant foray into free agency when the period to sign players is expected to open at 12:01 a.m. Saturday.
The extension between the league and its players created room under the cap for the taterskins, opened up avenues for further contract restructuring and should aid the club's ability to re-sign several of its players.
Had the labor talks failed, the taterskins faced the prospect of a $94.5 million salary cap and little chance of acquiring significant free agents. But now the cap is expected to be set at roughly $102 million, allowing Coach Joe Gibbs to seek help at wide receiver, defensive end, linebacker, along the offensive line and, perhaps, at kicker and punter. Washington also stands to add an additional $1.7 million in cap space with the trade of backup quarterback Patrick Ramsey -- who visited the New York Jets yesterday and has visits planned with Detroit and Miami, according to a source -- and will likely release a handful of players today.
Gibbs has informed center Cory Raymer, safety Matt Bowen, cornerback Walt Harris, and injured defensive tackle Brandon Noble that they would not be back with the team, players and agents said, and a few others could be cut as well. The taterskins also had renegotiated contracts with numerous players, but most would have become official only without a CBA extension.
Washington's agreement that granted immediate free agency to linebacker LaVar Arrington, however, gave the team a $4.4 million salary cap credit for 2006, and the taterskins also now have the option of converting about $13.5 million of total roster bonuses due to eight players into signing bonuses for cap purposes, which would create another $10 million in 2006 savings. A few other routine contract restructurings with high-salaried players like quarterback Mark Brunell and tackle Jon Jansen would create more space.
The taterskins were close to terms with running back Rock Cartwright yesterday, according to a source with knowledge of the situation, and have been negotiating with their other unrestricted free agents -- starting safety Ryan Clark, starting tight end Robert Royal and defensive lineman Demetric Evans -- and could reach deals with them in the immediate future, as well.
While there are several receivers either on or expected to hit the free agent market, none could be termed a star at this point in his career. But Isaac Bruce (St. Louis), Antwaan Randle El (Pittsburgh), Antonio Bryant (Cleveland), Joe Jurevicius (Seattle) or David Givens (New England) would fill that role, among others. Julian Peterson and Will Witherspoon are the top outside linebackers available -- a position of need following the release of former Pro Bowler LaVar Arrington this week -- while defensive end John Abraham (New York Jets) will be traded and Darren Howard (New Orleans) has a knack for pass rushing as well.
The taterskins will be looking for veteran offensive linemen able to back up the starters, and they could land an established kicker and punter as well. Kickers Adam Vinatieri (New England), Mike Vanderjagt (Indianapolis) and Ryan Longwell (Green Bay) have impressive résumés, and a punter like Tom Rouen (Seattle) could be attractive to Washington, too.
The team also would like to add depth in the secondary, particularly after last night's cuts. Harris started much of last season, and while he has been injured and passed on rookie Carlos Rogers, he provided good cover in the nickel role. Bowen was a starter in 2004 before suffering a season-ending knee injury and the taterskins could take another look at cornerback R.W. McQuarters (Detroit), who they tried to land last offseason, or a safety like Adam Archuleta (St. Louis). It is still conceivable players such as Harris and Bowen could re-sign with Washington later at lesser cap numbers.
Raymer lost his starting spot to free agent Casey Rabach last year, and with top reserve offensive lineman Ray Brown retired there is a need for experience along the line, and Arrington's departure leaves the taterskins without a proven weak-side linebacker. Noble is likely to retire after a series of serious knee injuries.
They won't be able to get any significant help at all those positions, unless they get 1 or 2 decent players and nothing else. Otherwise, they really only have enough room for role players, even if they severely backload deals.
So they drop a bunch of players and can get a couple to fill some spots.
Yeah, that's about as active as the Eagles are going to be. ::)
is there a defininte start to FA? i've seen several different possibilities. has anything been decided for sure?
Quote from: Sun_Mo on March 09, 2006, 10:03:34 AM
is there a defininte start to FA? i've seen several different possibilities. has anything been decided for sure?
Saturday 12:01am according to Mort and Adam Schefter.
they dropped a bunch of garbage...will resign their important players and then get two or three free agents...
trust me at the end of the day the eagles free agency period will not be all that much better than the skins
the eagles will get bently/barber/and a couple other guys the skins will get abraham (or another front line FA)/a decent wr/and another one or two guys...it will go soemehing along those lines
if the eagles get bently they probably will end up with a slightly better period because bently if the best guy out there
thanks.
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 09, 2006, 10:05:14 AM
trust me at the end of the day the eagles free agency period will not be all that much better than the skins
the eagles will get bently/barber/and a couple other guys the skins will get abraham (or another front line FA)/a decent wr/and another one or two guys...it will go soemehing along those lines
if the eagles get bently they probably will end up with a slightly better period because bently if the best guy out there
The truth is probably somewhere in between your opinion and the most optimistic Eagles fans.
I have no doubts that the Eagles free agent signings this season will be broader-ranging and more significant than the taterskins, even forgetting the massive difference in salary cap space. See, the taterskins actually believe their team's pretty good and only need mild tweaking, while the Eagles had a big wake-up call last year.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on March 09, 2006, 09:17:01 AM
Quote from: bobbyinlondon on March 08, 2006, 11:25:12 PM
Right now, with Owens' contract being taken off the books, the Eagles are at 18.7M--and that INCLUDES their RFA tenders. With an extra 7.5M, that's 26.2M--they recoup 7M from LTBEs that won't hit this year's cap now and I believe they recoup another 7M on 30%-rule payouts that now do not have to be made. So, they'll be roughly 40.2M BELOW the cap.
That sounds really off.
One poster I follow (Pocono), who's generally very accurate when it comes to cap tracking, was saying that the Eagles should be around $32M under, so that number is not too unrealistic.
wow thats a lot of effin loot
Hopefully they'll go into the season with a nice $12-15mil cushion. You know, just in case.
what do they usually leave themselves for extensions and the draft picks? 6 million, total?
honestly, there is no reason not to spend around $20 million dollars on free agents
Nah, they'll just sign Mahe and Herremans to huge extensions.
Quote from: Sun_Mo on March 09, 2006, 11:24:44 AM
honestly, there is no reason not to spend around $20 million dollars on free agents
After re-signing Josh Parry to a multi-year deal, they'll be down to like $4 million.
Quote from: FFatPatt on March 09, 2006, 11:28:46 AM
After re-signing Josh Parry to a multi-year deal, they'll be down to like $4 million.
that's pretty much was RJS said, except faster, and more funny
I have rjs on ignore.
You burned me good!
It's incredible how every thread now ends with you three retards.
we are a triumberant of hilarity
Much like the special olympics.
We like to make sure every aspect is thoroughly explored before the thread falls away.
Even with the new CBA the taterskins don't have the money to compete for big name free agents. I think they are only like 1 million under the cap now or something.
Quote from: Sun_Mo on March 09, 2006, 03:15:20 PM
we are a triumberant of hilarity
I laughed so hard at that, a little tinkle squirted out of my wang.
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on March 09, 2006, 04:20:37 PM
Quote from: Sun_Mo on March 09, 2006, 03:15:20 PM
we are a triumberant of hilarity
I laughed so hard at that, a tinkle squirted out of my little wang.
Right.
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on March 09, 2006, 04:20:37 PM
Quote from: Sun_Mo on March 09, 2006, 03:15:20 PM
we are a triumberant of hilarity
I laughed so hard at that, a little tinkle squirted out of my wang.
What else is new?
QuoteNFL | New CBA restricts penalties for players
Thu, 9 Mar 2006 14:40:27 -0800
ESPN.com's Chris Mortensen reports the new collective bargaining agreement restricts disciplinary action against a player to four weeks. The four week penalty would include weeks when a team decides to deactivate a player for disciplinary reasons. The restriction was put in place after the Philadelphia Eagles suspended WR Terrell Owens for four weeks and then deactivated him for the rest of the season.
Great. TO now has his own provision in the CBA. His trade value just dropped from possible 7th rounder to "conditional pick in 2009 based on performance incentives".
i'm fairly certain the skins aren't more then 5 mil under the cap now, i don't know who their really planning on going after.
also, isn't anderson like 32 or something?
Quote from: PhillyGirl on March 09, 2006, 10:04:17 AM
Quote from: Sun_Mo on March 09, 2006, 10:03:34 AM
is there a defininte start to FA? i've seen several different possibilities. has anything been decided for sure?
Saturday 12:01am according to Mort and Adam Schefter.
nfl.com says tonight at midnight http://www.nfl.com/news/story/9293409
QuoteFree agency, put off twice by the protracted negotiations between the owners and players, now will start at 12:01 a.m. March 10.
eagles site sat 3/11 though