Pete Prisco on PE.com's Other Views segment (http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/homeNewsDetail.jsp?id=45022)
Quote"I think they will address the offensive line in free agency. I've heard they are real high on LeCharles Bentley and Steve Hutchinson. Both of those guys are premier offensive linemen. Bentley is a tough guy who won't back down from anyone. Some of his battles against the best guys in the league are legendary and he knocked out a guy in college. Hutchinson, who went to my high school, may be the best offensive lineman available. The only problem with him is he has a transition tag, so the Seahawks can match any offer."
This would be a nice pick-up if they cannot land Hutchinson. Bentley would probably play LG here and not C.
I thought Bentley really wanted to stay at Center, though. Oh well. He's a good player.
Hutchinson>>>>Bentley
In all honesty I wouldn't complain if we got either.
I'd rather have Hutchinson, but either would be a great addition.
So, let me get this straight: According to pro football writers out there, the Eagles are interested in acquiring roughly every free agent with the exception of T.O.
Is that about right?
and Freddie Mitchell.
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on February 27, 2006, 06:08:39 PM
So, let me get this straight: According to pro football writers out there, the Eagles are interested in acquiring roughly every free agent with the exception of T.O.
Is that about right?
No, they're looking at free agents at positions already filled. They're not looking for LBs, DL, or OT.
I half expect someone to come up with a rumor that the Eagles are going after Adam Vinatieri at this point... seriously.
Bentley would be a great pickup IMO.
I don't really care if the team gets Bentley but getting stud linemen never hurts. Now if they would just run the ball occasionally we'd really be getting somewhere.
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on February 27, 2006, 07:12:17 PM
I half expect someone to come up with a rumor that the Eagles are going after Adam Vinatieri at this point... seriously.
Holy shtein, are you serious? The Eagles are going after Vinatieri? I gotta call WIP!
I was hoping the Eagles would have drafted Bentley when he first came in the league. Could put him at center and slide Jamaal out to guard.
So, let me get this straight: According to pro football writers out there, the Eagles are interested in acquiring roughly every free agent with the exception of T.O.
pretty much...which is why you cant take any of this stuff for real
IF they did get leecharr they better put him at center
Quote from: Philly_Crew on February 28, 2006, 07:46:34 AM
I was hoping the Eagles would have drafted Bentley when he first came in the league. Could put him at center and slide Jamaal out to guard.
Jamaal might get a shot at LG and/or RT if the Eagles signed someone like Bentley, but he'd more likely be a backup.
From Scouts.com
QuoteEagles Keep An Eye On The Jets
By Chuck Hixson
Date: Feb 28, 2006
The Eagles are watching for the Jets to see which way they go on their offensive line. Plus, there are a couple of free agents that the Eagles have various levels of interest in talking to once the free agency signing period officially arrives.
According to a league source with knowledge of the situation, the Eagles have a close eye on what the New York Jets will do with C Kevin Mawae who has turned down a pay cut. Mawae has a cap value of over $4 million which the team wants to reduce. If Mawae is cut loose, look for the Eagles to make a run at signing him. If they do wind up signing him, that would likely mean the end to veteran C Hank Fraley who has one season left on his contract.
Fraley and Jamaal Jackson figured on engaging in a battle for the starting job in camp, but if Mawae does wind up with the Eagles, Jackson will have to find other ways to get into the lineup.
The Eagles have a passing interest in Seattle Seahawks DT Rocky Bernard but according to a team source, they're concerned that he may be a one-year wonder and likely won't pursue him.
They have a much stronger interest in Pittsburgh Steelers WR Antwaan Randle El but want to see what his market price will be so they may wait a little bit after the free agency period begins to make him an offer.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on February 28, 2006, 10:03:10 AM
From Scouts.com
Quote
According to a league source with knowledge of the situation, the Eagles have a close eye on what the New York Jets will do with C Kevin Mawae who has turned down a pay cut. Mawae has a cap value of over $4 million which the team wants to reduce. If Mawae is cut loose, look for the Eagles to make a run at signing him.
i have wood.
oh man, Mawae!! :drool
Dude is badass.
Mawae would definately go against their typical MO.
would they be looking at Mawae as a stop-gap till a younger player can take over full time? I'm just curious cause he's older than Runyan. Was he injured last year also?
eh, im on the fence with Mawae. Guy is coming off a torn triceps injury and is past his prime at 35 going into the season. He def isnt a long term solution. I suppose if they are going balls out to try and win the SB this year then lets do this thing... spend it all and gather the other positions necessary too. :paranoid
Mawae is a beast and I guess the writing is on the wall as far as Honeybuns' career with the Eagles is concerned. Peace out, Hank.
(In regards to Mawae) Just heard on the NFL channel (Sirius) that the Jets still have $12million they have to cut.
:yay
Quote from: MURP on February 28, 2006, 10:20:10 AM
eh, im on the fence with Mawae. Guy is coming off a torn triceps injury and is past his prime at 35 going into the season. He def isnt a long term solution. I suppose if they are going balls out to try and win the SB this year then lets do this thing... spend it all and gather the other positions necessary too. :paranoid
I agree completely. The prospect of adding him to the team is not overly exciting.
Mawae would be a nice addition. But he is old (37?) and injury prone. At least we'll still have Jamaal as the backup in case he gets hurt if they signed him.
I would rather spend the money on Runyan and keep him. Or go after Hutch or Bentley
Shutup, Torri Hunter boy. Get Mawae!
I wouldn't hate getting Mawae, Dandy Don. But I'm saying if you get him you better be ready for the IR stint that comes along with him.
It's Mawae or the highway.
:-D
:paranoid
Wow. I'm nominating a second post for worst of the year and we're only two months in. Impressive.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on February 28, 2006, 01:38:16 PM
I wouldn't hate getting Mawae, Dandy Don. But I'm saying if you get him you better be ready for the IR stint that comes along with him.
thats what ive been trying to explain to you about hunter. anyway, id prefer hutchinson, jackson and runyan to mawae and whoever the hell else.
Self-nominations are ineligible, sucker.
Every year Mawae has like 2 broken hands, yet you see him out there blocking with his hands taped up to look like anvils.
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on February 28, 2006, 02:08:36 PM
It's Mawae or the highway.
:-D
:paranoid
Aiiight Rome... that was corny as shtein... but why can't I stop laughing?
According to the papers in Minnesota today, the Vikings want Bentley...
Quote from: BigEd76 on March 01, 2006, 12:56:16 PM
According to the papers in Minnesota today, the Vikings want Bentley...
Meh. Rumors have the Vikings, just like the Eagles, saying they want everyone so far.
Didn't Mawae play in like 177 straight games before missing time last year.... not exactly what I would call injury prone.
That said, he's 35 and this injury very well could be the beginning of the body breaking down as far as being in NFL playing shape....
Quote from: BigEd76 on March 01, 2006, 12:56:16 PM
According to the papers in Minnesota today, the Vikings want Bentley...
Damn you Brad Childress! You aren't an Eagle anymore so stop reading this message board!
Half of the taterskins' offensive line should be available anyway.
Quote from: FFatPatt on March 01, 2006, 01:16:41 PM
Half of the taterskins' offensive line should be available anyway.
half of the taterskins team should be available.
The more of them they sign, the better they'll be! These guys have been coached by Joe Gibbs, so they're the bestest!
Cooley would be a damn fine addition, and Sellers should come on the cheap. Hmm...who else? Marcus Washington, Phillip Daniels.....that's about it I guess. It's going to look like a flea market.
They won't cut Cooley or Washington, no matter what. Both of those guys are "core Skins".
Adam Caplan (Sirius NFL station) just mentioned again that the Eagles are keeping a close eye on what happens with Mawae.
I dont get Mawae, hes old.
I wouldn't hate getting Mawae, Dandy Don. But I'm saying if you get him you better be ready for the IR stint that comes along with him.
why?...he played a million games in a row before last season
that being said unless hes a super bargain at a year or two i dont want him...and thats obviously what everyone means by the eagles are 'looking at him'...basically they want to know he if they can him for minimum money
QuoteEagles | Team interested in Mawae
Thu, 2 Mar 2006 05:41:14 -0800
The New York Daily News reports the Philadelphia Eagles are interested in New York Jets OC Kevin Mawae, should he be released by the Jets, as expected.
Jets | Mawae could be gone Thursday
Thu, 2 Mar 2006 05:36:17 -0800
The New York Daily News reports agent Mark Bartelstein said he was informed Wednesday, Match 1, by New York Jets general manger Mike Tannenbaum that the team likely will part ways with OC Kevin Mawae. Mawae's situation apparently goes beyond money. At 35, recovering from a torn triceps, he doesn't fit into new head coach Eric Mangini's rebuilding plan. Mawae was given permission recently to seek a trade, and he took that as a sign that he's no longer wanted. The Jets will save $1.1 million by releasing Mawae. "Nothing is official, but I got a sense from talking to (the Jets) that Kevin will be a free agent," Bartelstein said. "I think they've made the decision to retool and start over."
Mawae was just cut.
He's also old.
According to Brookover the Eagles are "set" to sign Bentley. Whatever that means.
http://www.philly.com/mld/philly/sports/14004579.htm
The Eagles will have to wait a few more days, but it appears as if their first big free-agent signing of the off-season is going to be LeCharles Bentley, the Pro Bowl center from the New Orleans Saints.
According to a source close to the center, Bentley's interest in joining the Eagles is so strong that only the delay in the free-agency period prevented the move from happening today.
Great news. :yay
Bentley is young and he's a beast at center. I'd rather have Hutchinson, but I'd certainly welcome interior beef on the OLine.
Definitely.
Would he play guard or center? If he plays center what the heck is going to happen with Jackson?
Center
So what are we going to do about guard? Hicks is a big liability.
Hutchinson? ;D
Is Bentley playing center your personal opinion or is that what you heard from someone? It doesn't make sense to me when they already have Fraley and Jackson there, and especially when Jackson was really impressing people.
Move Jackson to guard. Resign Ruyan. Have the best damn run blocking line in the NFL drop back 60 times a game.
I question where Bentley would play myself. I like Jax at Center and Hicks isnt a slouch at LG.
Maybe Bentley plays LG and Hicks play the 6th man.
Jackson could be a nice story at C, but Bentley is one of the top C's in the league. If he's indeed on his way to Philly, the dream is over for Jamal. He can either remain as a backup at C or he can challenge Hicks at LG. That simple.
Bentley has made the Pro bowl at Center and Guard. That's quality right there. :yay
This move tells me that Andy realizes not only that we need to get stronger in the interior, but also that we need to be better against the 3-4... which we all know wasn't Fraley's strength. Actually, he flat out sucked. Bentley is much better suited to go head to head with a NT and hold his own.
We need some physical guys for the 3 times a game we run the ball and Bentley certainly qualifies.
Good news if true, I like the versatility this gives us. :yay
If Bentley joins the Eagles, then Jackson, Clarke, Hicks, and Herremans will all be in the running for LG. Assuming Andrews is not sliding out to tackle, then Herremans, Jackson, Hicks, and Armstrong will all get a shot at RT.
Bentley's the real deal, though. Despite that he's from THE Ohio State University.
i love this signing
hes definitely their center
Ray Diddy was on WIP and he didn't have a negative thing to say about the guy. he said the guy does everything well.
Quote from: Sun_Mo on March 03, 2006, 08:28:43 AM
Ray Diddy was on WIP and he didn't have a negative thing to say about the guy. he said the guy does everything well.
Some caller from Nah-leans called the NFL channel while Randy Cross was on asking about Bentley and if there was a possibility of them retaining him, they spent the next 20 minutes raving about him.
Quote from: Mad-Lad on February 27, 2006, 06:21:38 PM
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on February 27, 2006, 06:08:39 PM
So, let me get this straight: According to pro football writers out there, the Eagles are interested in acquiring roughly every free agent with the exception of T.O.
Is that about right?
No, they're looking at free agents at positions already filled. They're not looking for LBs, DL, or OT.
We had a great year playing with no LB's DL's or OT's!
There is no such thing as a position "filled". If you can upgrade your O-line, you do it. You build a team from the front back inside out. In other words for you football challenged, get Bentley, get Hutchinson! (This status may have changed with re-negotiations and cuts).
he's only 26, that rules too.
No, they're looking at free agents at positions already filled
they dont have center filled...fraley and whoever else currently on the roster that would replace him all suck
this cat is young and for real...sign em up
This would be such a great move by the Eagles Im almost scared to count the chickens before they hatch. :paranoid
fraley was a joke...signng bentley would be huge for the o-line since #5 always gets crushed by someone coming right up the middle.
I just read some comments that people dont know where Bentley would play. ha. The guy is 100 times better than Jackson at Center or Hicks at G. He is an immediate bigtime upgrade to the Oline wherever he lines up.
And Brookover mentions that they could go for Hutchinson even after signing Bentley? :o
Quote from: MURP on March 03, 2006, 09:14:33 AM
And Brookover mentions that they could go for Hutchinson even after signing Bentley? :o
I just heard that same thing from "someone else" :paranoid
he plays center period...center is a very difficult position to fill so if you get a good one you dont waste them at guard
Bentley and Hutchinson would be awesome.
but they still will have tackle issues.
Quote from: Sun_Mo on March 03, 2006, 09:18:36 AM
Bentley and Hutchinson would be awesome.
but they still will have tackle issues.
oh well.
the best 2 available OL happen to play in the middle & getting both would be crazy.
Quote from: Sun_Mo on March 03, 2006, 09:18:36 AM
Bentley and Hutchinson would be awesome.
but they still will have tackle issues.
Tra at LT
Herremans at RT
Quote from: MURP on March 03, 2006, 09:22:00 AM
Quote from: Sun_Mo on March 03, 2006, 09:18:36 AM
Bentley and Hutchinson would be awesome.
but they still will have tackle issues.
Tra at LT
Herremans at RT
Tra is oft injured and Herremans would be a 1st time starter
they arent getting hutchinson and bently
and true tackle would still be a big issue...but bently is young so its not like they are getting him for one year and the lack of tackles would cancel out the move...this move would be exclusive from the tackle situation...plus with their center position being so bad right now who cares...they should throw a parade if they pull off a fraley to bently upgrade
yeah, by no means whatsoever am i shteinting on these possible moves. i'm just saying that there are still concerns on the line, this year and moving forward.
Quote from: Sun_Mo on March 03, 2006, 09:24:07 AM
Quote from: MURP on March 03, 2006, 09:22:00 AM
Quote from: Sun_Mo on March 03, 2006, 09:18:36 AM
Bentley and Hutchinson would be awesome.
but they still will have tackle issues.
Tra at LT
Herremans at RT
Tra is oft injured and Herremans would be a 1st time starter
that would be the case with or without bentley/hutchinson....are there any decent tackles available?
A few points:
1) If the Eagles sign Bentley, he'll be the center. I agree w/ those who don't understand why this would be a question. Center is tougher to play than Guard. If you've got a guy who has been a Pro Bowl at center, you let him play there unless you've got another Pro Bowler at center on your roster. Jackson can play guard and be freed from having to make the line calls and dealing w/ snapping the ball.
2) Bentley vs. Hutchinson. Ignoring for a moment the possibility of getting both because I think that's very unlikely, focusing on Bentley instead of Hutchinson is the right strategy. Hutchinson's value has been a bit inflated b/c everyone talked about him w/ the Seahawks being in the Bowl. He does play next to a great tackle and with three other terrific linemen. Not saying he isn't a great player - he absolutely is and I'd want him on this team if possible, but I don't know that that he is all that much better than Bentley. Plus, Bentley is three years younger and is more versatile. Further, Hutchinson is transition tagged, so the Seahawks have 7 days to match, which might prevent the Eagles from making other moves until they found out whether the Hawks would match or not.
3) Bentley and Hutchinson. Okay, it's nice to dream about, but I'd be shocked if this happened. It might be worth making a big offer though. Either you end up w/ two stud Pro Bowl linemen, or you end up w/ one and force the Seahawks to use up more cap room to retain Hutchinson.
4) I wonder if Dallas will file a tampering charge against the Eagles on this in return for that little episode w/ Owens. If a deal is in place it's technically tampering. Everyone does it and no one cares, but since the Eagles made a stink for a few days last season, maybe Jones returns the favor. Of course, the Cowboys might already have a deal w/ Vinatieri in place.
Quote from: Sun_Mo on March 03, 2006, 09:27:21 AM
yeah, by no means whatsoever am i shteinting on these possible moves.
yes you are.
stop it.
Quote from: hunt on March 03, 2006, 09:27:36 AM
that would be the case with or without bentley/hutchinson....are there any decent tackles available?
John Runyan
Quote from: Sun_Mo on March 03, 2006, 09:24:07 AM
Quote from: MURP on March 03, 2006, 09:22:00 AM
Quote from: Sun_Mo on March 03, 2006, 09:18:36 AM
Bentley and Hutchinson would be awesome.
but they still will have tackle issues.
Tra at LT
Herremans at RT
Tra is oft injured and Herremans would be a 1st time starter
I agree, but those two could clearly be the starters from the Eagles viewpoint.
yeah, no doubt, but that's where i see a potential problem.
i would love to see them sign Bentley and Runyan, and play Herremans at LG while they draft a stud LT of the future.
unless the Eagles still plan on Andrews being their RT of the future and Herremans as the LT.
i like runyan & i hope he's back but i'd rather have bentley at C than have runyan back...of course, both would be sweet, as would hutchinson.
Quote from: MURP on March 03, 2006, 09:35:58 AM
unless the Eagles still plan on Andrews being their RT of the future and Herremans as the LT.
yeah that's entirely possible. Herremans was the one filling in for Tra last year at TC right?
yeah, Herremans was at LT and was playing well until he broke his ankle/leg whatever it was.
herremans is not a guard....if he isnt good enough to start at T then he backs up at that position
i dont doubt that herremans could one day be a nice T...im leery of putting all my eggs in his basket this year
as for signing importance
bently and runyan>your life
bently>runyan or hutch
runyan>hutch
why can't herremans play guard? Welbourn did and he was a tackle.
i mean he can...he could also play nose tackle im sure...but hes a prototypical T and i dont think he should be moved from there...hes to tall to play guard...his lack of center of gravity would have him getting thrown around imo
can he play guard...sure
is he a guard...no way
fair enough sir, fair enough...
the line i would like to have:
Tra Jackson Bently Andrews Runyan
with Herremans and Hicks being the 1st backups
Tra Jackson Bently Andrews Runyan
whoomp there is it
The Eagles aren't going to get Runyan back in all likelihood, especially if they sign someone like Bentley.
Let's hope for Hicks being a top reserve:
Thomas Clarke/Jackson Bentley Andrews/Jackson/Clarke Herremans/Andrews/Armstrong
Something to keep in mind when deciding where these guys will play on the OL:
Fraley is a FA after this season
Clarke and Jackson (R) are FAs after the '07 season
Andrews, Herremans, Thomas and Armstrong are FAs after the '08 season
Hicks is signed through 2009
Quote from: BigEd76 on March 03, 2006, 10:19:01 AM
Something to keep in mind when deciding where these guys will play on the OL:
Fraley is a FA after this season (bye-bye)
Clarke and Jackson (R) are FAs after the '07 season (re-sign them both!)
Andrews, Herremans, Thomas and Armstrong are FAs after the '08 season (meh, not worried about that)
Hicks is signed through 2009 (hopefully his salary befits a backup)
Yes.
*note to self - calvin armstrong is a free agent in 08
This is AWESOME. Of course it still needs to be a signed, sealed and delivered deal. But if and when it gets done this is down right great for the team.
Thomas
Jackson
Bentley
Andrews
Herremans
or
Thomas
Bentley
Jackson
Andrews
Herremans
I believe they really like Jackson. But remember the fumbled snaps he had last year? Maybe the staff feels that he would be best suited as a LG?
LeCharles Bentley is an awesome pick-up.
Spadaro is giving nothing but " :) " when someone asks about Bentley, so it's probably a done deal...
Excellent. :yay
isn't that tampering to have a deal done with a player under contract before FA starts?
Bentley prefers to play center, so you put the motherfarger at center. PERIOD.
Maybe playing along side another OSU guy will get Clarke amped up.
Don't forget that Jackson was initially drafted as a Tackle. He could be a darkhorse for that RT spot if Andrews is still not ready and doesn't have the proper physique to move out there.
Again, if they add a guy like Bentley, I highly doubt you see them signing anyone else on the OL - even Runyan.
Quote from: FFatPatt on March 03, 2006, 10:30:06 AM
Bentley prefers to play center, so you put the motherfarger at center. PERIOD.
Cool with me. He's one mean, nasty sonofabitch.
Flashback: Bentley knocked out former OSU teammate and ex-Cowboy Tyson Walter in college (http://espn.go.com/nfl/columns/clayton_john/1542583.html)
QuoteAfter what he said was an off-color racial remark, Bentley confronted Walter in the locker room.
"I told him after break down I was going to break him down," Bentley said.
True to his word, Bentley walked to the middle the field after the final stretching after the workout and set up to fight Walter. One punch by Bentley ended the dispute.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on March 03, 2006, 10:33:59 AM
Flashback: Bentley knocked out former OSU teammate and ex-Cowboy Tyson Walter in college (http://espn.go.com/nfl/columns/clayton_john/1542583.html)
QuoteAfter what he said was an off-color racial remark, Bentley confronted Walter in the locker room.
"I told him after break down I was going to break him down," Bentley said.
True to his word, Bentley walked to the middle the field after the final stretching after the workout and set up to fight Walter. One punch by Bentley ended the dispute.
Cool... so if Runyan leaves... we don't even lose the mean streak. :yay :yay :yay
and he got a little soul in his strut to go with that muscle in his hustle...
(http://graphics.fansonly.com/photos/schools/osu/sports/m-footbl/auto_action/103684.jpeg)
btw being behind my girl is like being behind the wheel of a bently
QuoteAccording to a source close to the center, Bentley's interest in joining the Eagles is so strong that only the delay in the free-agency period prevented the move from happening today.
Still can't get over that statement. Beautiful. :yay
Does Bentley's wallet say "Bad Motherfarger"?
If not, it should.
Looks like Keyonta Marshall will be giving up that #65... ;D
I checked with "NC" and he says Hicks will be a reserve and they like Jackson at guard. Mo, I asked about the possibility of someone like the Vikings coming in at the last second this weekend with FA being pushed back 3 days, and he said it's always possible, but these deals with agents are done weeks before FA starts...
If anyone wants some quick reading material here's Bentley's NewOrleansSaints.com bio (http://neworleanssaints.com/playerbio.cfm?playerid=97)
Quote from: BigEd76 on March 03, 2006, 10:41:40 AM
Looks like Keyonta Marshall will be giving up that #65... ;D
I checked with "NC" and he says Hicks will be a reserve and they like Jackson at guard.
what about Clarke? what about Herremans? What are the plans for those guys?
Quote from: BigEd76 on March 03, 2006, 10:41:40 AM
Looks like Keyonta Marshall will be giving up that #65... ;D
I checked with "NC" and he says Hicks will be a reserve and they like Jackson at guard. Mo, I asked about the possibility of someone like the Vikings coming in at the last second this weekend with FA being pushed back 3 days, and he said it's always possible, but these deals with agents are done weeks before FA starts...
Phreak = warm & fuzzy inside.
Hicks is best served as the 6th man 1st OT off the pine.
Clarke = 1st OG off the bench
I like the idea of signing Bentley, but am still a bit nervous about the RT position.
Quote from: BigEd76 on March 03, 2006, 10:41:40 AM
Looks like Keyonta Marshall will be giving up that #65... ;D
I checked with "NC" and he says Hicks will be a reserve and they like Jackson at guard. Mo, I asked about the possibility of someone like the Vikings coming in at the last second this weekend with FA being pushed back 3 days, and he said it's always possible, but these deals with agents are done weeks before FA starts...
If anyone wants some quick reading material here's Bentley's NewOrleansSaints.com bio (http://neworleanssaints.com/playerbio.cfm?playerid=97)
Bentley in green. :drool
To hell with Marshall. He's all the way over in Europe. :-D
I asked about RT. "I doubt Runyan will be back." Herremans will most likely be the RT unless they decide to move Andrews there (which I'm not a fan of). He also says Bentley is not a done deal yet. "I don't think it's a slam dunk."
It can't be a slam dunk until the contract is done. There is a lot of interest in him, as there should be, and the Eagles will have to come out of the gates with big-time money to land him on the first day.
Quote from: BigEd76 on March 03, 2006, 10:51:24 AM
He also says Bentley is not a done deal yet. "I don't think it's a slam dunk."
Damn you Spewdaro! I was just about to have myself a great.... Eagles day.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on March 03, 2006, 10:33:59 AM
QuoteAfter what he said was an off-color racial remark, Bentley confronted Walter in the locker room.
"I told him after break down I was going to break him down," Bentley said.
True to his word, Bentley walked to the middle the field after the final stretching after the workout and set up to fight Walter. One punch by Bentley ended the dispute.
Here's another bad ass Bentley quote I saw over at 700level.com:
Quote
"When you take a man, a grown man, and you put your hands in the middle of his chest and bend him back to a point where you hear him scream, when he starts screaming like a little girl, you put his head in the dirt. And then you look up and you see Deuce, all you can see is McAllister 26 stiff arming somebody 20 yards down the field breaking a 40 yard run and scoring. Then you get up and just look at (the blocked defender), and you know damn well when he gets to the sideline, he's getting cussed out. And you know his mama, his wife and his kids were watching him on that play and you just manhandled him. That's the best feeling."
(http://www.startribune.com/stonline/images/news99/pack101005.l.jpg)
(http://www.neworleanssaints.com/photos/gallery/12-5-04%20Saints%20vs.%20Panthers/02-D8761-72.jpg)
Quote from: Beermonkey on March 03, 2006, 10:57:27 AM
Here's another bad ass Bentley quote I saw over at 700level.com:
Quote
"When you take a man, a grown man, and you put your hands in the middle of his chest and bend him back to a point where you hear him scream, when he starts screaming like a little girl, you put his head in the dirt. And then you look up and you see Deuce, all you can see is McAllister 26 stiff arming somebody 20 yards down the field breaking a 40 yard run and scoring. Then you get up and just look at (the blocked defender), and you know damn well when he gets to the sideline, he's getting cussed out. And you know his mama, his wife and his kids were watching him on that play and you just manhandled him. That's the best feeling."
If I hadn't decided to stop buying jerseys...
What a farging badass. We need this guy to replace Runyan's attitude on the line.
Quote from: Beermonkey on March 03, 2006, 10:57:27 AM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on March 03, 2006, 10:33:59 AM
QuoteAfter what he said was an off-color racial remark, Bentley confronted Walter in the locker room.
"I told him after break down I was going to break him down," Bentley said.
True to his word, Bentley walked to the middle the field after the final stretching after the workout and set up to fight Walter. One punch by Bentley ended the dispute.
Here's another bad ass Bentley quote I saw over at 700level.com:
Quote
"When you take a man, a grown man, and you put your hands in the middle of his chest and bend him back to a point where you hear him scream, when he starts screaming like a little girl, you put his head in the dirt. And then you look up and you see Deuce, all you can see is McAllister 26 stiff arming somebody 20 yards down the field breaking a 40 yard run and scoring. Then you get up and just look at (the blocked defender), and you know damn well when he gets to the sideline, he's getting cussed out. And you know his mama, his wife and his kids were watching him on that play and you just manhandled him. That's the best feeling."
I was just coming to post that :yay I saw it over on ES where they're fretting over the Eagles signing him.
Like I said...he's one bad motherfarger. And I love it.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on March 03, 2006, 11:01:29 AM
Quote from: Beermonkey on March 03, 2006, 10:57:27 AM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on March 03, 2006, 10:33:59 AM
QuoteAfter what he said was an off-color racial remark, Bentley confronted Walter in the locker room.
"I told him after break down I was going to break him down," Bentley said.
True to his word, Bentley walked to the middle the field after the final stretching after the workout and set up to fight Walter. One punch by Bentley ended the dispute.
Here's another bad ass Bentley quote I saw over at 700level.com:
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"When you take a man, a grown man, and you put your hands in the middle of his chest and bend him back to a point where you hear him scream, when he starts screaming like a little girl, you put his head in the dirt. And then you look up and you see Deuce, all you can see is McAllister 26 stiff arming somebody 20 yards down the field breaking a 40 yard run and scoring. Then you get up and just look at (the blocked defender), and you know damn well when he gets to the sideline, he's getting cussed out. And you know his mama, his wife and his kids were watching him on that play and you just manhandled him. That's the best feeling."
I was just coming to post that :yay I saw it over on ES where they're fretting over the Eagles signing him.
Like I said...he's one bad motherfarger. And I love it.
Linkage please!
http://www.extremeskins.com/forums/showthread.php?t=146439
(http://uplink.space.com/attachments/350729-MrBurns.gif) Excellent.
Quote from: BigEd76 on March 03, 2006, 10:51:24 AM
He also says Bentley is not a done deal yet. "I don't think it's a slam dunk."
yet he just said these deals are done with agents weeks before FA. Which is it Spewy?
Spew = "The Eagles aren't getting TO...no chance"
thank god the inquirer has something on it as well or none of this would mean anything...because spads validity is nill
but now im thinking that spads leaked the info to the inky....and if thats the case all this means nothing
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on March 03, 2006, 11:07:33 AM
http://www.extremeskins.com/forums/showthread.php?t=146439
QuoteGreat player. But I'm curious: can he catch bounce passes?
It's funny that they feel confident enough in their QB situation to mock ours.
if the Eagles go after Hutchinson since he has the transition tag, what would the Eagles have to give up for compensation if the Hawks dont match?
Quote from: phillywin2k5 on March 03, 2006, 12:02:39 PM
if the Eagles go after Hutchinson since he has the transition tag, what would the Eagles have to give up for compensation if the Hawks dont match?
Nothing. All the transition tag does is give the Seahawks a chance to match.
you're smurt.
Spadaro said on his forum that Brookover probably got the info from Bentley's agent himself.
2k5 - It would be similar to Ricky Watters in 1995 and Troy Vincent in 1996. The other team would get a chance to match the offer.
Spadaro said on his forum that Brookover probably got the info from Bentley's agent himself.
if thats true then brookover is an idiot for writing the article...an agent is not an nfl source...hes a pr firm for his client
bubble officially burst
As far as a reliable source on a free agent possibly joining the Eagles...
player agent >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Spadaro
No it hasn't. All he said was that Brookover got his info from there, not the organization. Dave isn't commenting on it publicly other than the read-between-the-lines smiley he always uses when a deal is about to go down...
Well, Dave felt the same way about Warrick Dunn. The Eagles have been known to target a guy here and there but not offer enough. That said, if they're talking about the first day of free agency, then they must have picked Banner up by his ankles until the billfold, wallet, and changepurse all fell out.
As far as a reliable source on a free agent possibly joining the Eagles...
player agent >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Spadaro
true dat
you>>>>>>read between the line smileys
What the Saints boards are saying about it:
SaintsReport.com (http://www.saintsreport.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=194186)
WhoDatZone.com (http://whodatzone.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=9963)
SaintsRevolution.com (http://saintsrevolution.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=5215)
I like how McNabb is on the downside of his career and we'll be in cap hell in a few years... :-D
If you want to use me as a source, I will tell you this:
The Eagles are going to make a large, aggressive offer at Bentley on the opening day of free agency. There is about a 40% chance he will take it immediately, and there is about a 60% chance he will shop his bad ass around some more. If he shops around some more, there is about an 85% chance he signs elsewhere and a 15% chance he comes back to the Eagles' offer...
So, the odds are about 50/50 of landing LeCharles Bentley. You're welcome.
and i will tell you this:
agreed
but thats a long way from this morning when i spewed all over my workstation
Quote from: BigEd76 on March 03, 2006, 12:37:48 PM
I like how McNabb is on the downside of his career and we'll be in cap hell in a few years... :-D
Who better experts on downside than the Saint Fans??? ;)
Quote from: BigEd76 on March 03, 2006, 12:37:48 PM
What the Saints boards are saying about it:
SaintsReport.com (http://www.saintsreport.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=194186)
WhoDatZone.com (http://whodatzone.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=9963)
SaintsRevolution.com (http://saintsrevolution.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=5215)
I like how McNabb is on the downside of his career and we'll be in cap hell in a few years... :-D
QuoteIts ok. We robbed them of Mayberry. Maybe this year we can jack one of their promising young wide receivers who was stuck behind T.O. on the depth chart
:sly
Hey Ed...that one dude who started the thread on the whodatzone is from your neck of the woods...know him? I haven't seen any Saints fans ever in this area.
i cant wait to roadie to new orleans this season
Tra
Hutchinson
Bentley
Andrews
Runyan
.........Stillupfront must be sportin' wood!!
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 03, 2006, 01:09:17 PM
i cant wait to roadie to new orleans this season
bring beach gear, i hear its pretty wet down there.
Adam Schefter was on Total Access tonight and confirmed that Bentley was the Birds main target for the offensive line, but he said the indications were that the Birds second big target, was another Saint, Darren Howard. Thoughts?
That would be very, very nice. :yay
Darren Howard could be done. He didn't have a great year last year. If he can repeat anything he did in his previous seasons I'd take him in a second.
Given everything that happened this past season, I really wouldn't pass to much judgement on Howard. He was pissed about the tag, and then no talks about a new contract, then everything else happened. Here he would be in a rotation, and should be able to stay fresh all season.
Kearse, Howard, Cole, Dougs, and maybe a draft pick. Imagine too if Dougs actually stays healthy and earns his keep. If they get Howard, and Bentley it would be a pretty kick ass offseason IMO, and they could use their picks to shore up some other spots. (Gradkowski at backup QB please).
Kearse, Patterson, Bunkley(first round pick), Howard/Coles
One hell of a d-line there my friends. If we don't sign a DT, then I'd rather take Bunkley than Vernon Davis if both are there at 14.
Anyone here rather still go Davis?
I'd take Davis in a second if he was there at 14. Davis is a surefire stud for the next ten plus years. Bank on it.
DGunn just said its gonna be done monday. And DGunn knows all. All.
(http://waumadscn7.eastbay.com/is/image/EB/70042231?tags=no&WID=500&$Number=65&$LNumber=6&$RNumber=5&$Name=BENTLEY&$ENLARGE$)
Darren Howard could be done. He didn't have a great year last year
i tend to agree with this...in a normal FA year howard might be a nice pick up...this year hes a back up type signing or even a last resort depending on the money he wants
In Spew's blog it mentions how Pete Prisco thinks that Bentley will sign quickly with Jax at the start of FA.
Bentley denying the Brookover report...for now (http://www.nola.com/sports/t-p/index.ssf?/base/sports-22/1141457339141580.xml)
If Bentley doesnt sign with the Eagles, Brookover and Gunn should be fired.
Quote from: MURP on March 04, 2006, 10:29:46 AM
If Bentley doesnt sign with the Eagles, Brookover and Gunn should be fired.
and run over by a bentley.
(http://www.autointell.com/european_companies/rolls-royce-bentley/bentley-continental-gt/bentley-continental-front-350-245.jpg)
Work has been busy. Catching up on this discussion (from the office on a Saturday, of course.) :boom
Quote from: PhillyFan on March 03, 2006, 09:30:09 AM
A few points:
Well said. I especially agree with your second point.
Quote from: MURP on March 03, 2006, 09:35:58 AM
unless the Eagles still plan on Andrews being their RT of the future
I don't get this. I think they really might see him as their future RT and I just don't get it. He's just not the right body type. Arms are too short, feet too slow..I worry about this idea.
Quote from: Sun_Mo on March 03, 2006, 09:53:47 AMTra Jackson Bently Andrews Runyan
with Herremans and Hicks being the 1st backups
Sounds good to me.
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 03, 2006, 10:26:41 AM
*note to self - calvin armstrong is a free agent in 08
He'll be the starter by then, kicking ass and taking names. Book it.
Quote from: FFatPatt on March 03, 2006, 10:30:06 AMif Andrews is still not ready and doesn't have the proper physique to move out there.
Again, if they add a guy like Bentley, I highly doubt you see them signing anyone else on the OL - even Runyan.
If? He'll NEVER be "ready," because he's not a Tackle!! Also, I'm sure you're right about Runyan, sadly.
Quote from: hunt on March 04, 2006, 10:33:05 AMand run over by a bentley.
Now why would you want to hurt a gorgeous car like that over something so petty?
Quote from: BigEd76 on March 04, 2006, 09:10:54 AM
Bentley denying the Brookover report...for now (http://www.nola.com/sports/t-p/index.ssf?/base/sports-22/1141457339141580.xml)
Article:
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Is Bentley ready to fly out of N.O.?
Saints center denies he's plans to sign with Philly on Monday
Saturday, March 04, 2006
By Mike Triplett
Saints center LeCharles Bentley denied Friday a Philadelphia newspaper report that he is planning to sign with the Eagles as soon as free agency begins Monday. But whether he winds up in Philadelphia or not, Bentley will clearly move on after four years with the Saints.
Bentley has maintained throughout this offseason that he was disappointed the Saints did not sign him to a long-term contract extension before he became a free agent. Earlier this week, he made his strongest comment yet, telling CBSSportsline that, "I would rather sit out a season than play for the Saints again."
Bentley, 26, said last week that things didn't end on a sour note in New Orleans, and that he enjoyed his four years with the Saints. But he said Thursday night that he is ready to move on.
"It was just a lot of things that I didn't like," Bentley told The Times-Picayune. "But in any relationship, nothing goes 100 percent right all the time.
"I meant what I said last week, and I meant what I said (in the CBS report)."
Bentley had a brief war of words through the media with teammate Joe Horn after the season, in which he criticized the star receiver for speaking on his behalf about his contract status.
Then, in the CBSSportsline interview, Bentley was told that some members of the team and organization were upset with him for missing the last two games of the 2005 season with an elbow injury, suggesting he was protecting himself for free agency.
"That's why they're the Saints," Bentley responded. "That isn't true."
Bentley said that interview was the first time he had heard about any such accusations, but he seemed upset by them.
He said, "If anyone in that organization has any questions about whether I gave everything I had while I was there, then they can go to hell."
The two-time Pro Bowl center is one of the NFL's hottest free agent commodities. The Eagles are expected to be one his top suitors.
According to the Philadelphia Inquirer, a source close to Bentley said he was prepared to sign with the Eagles on Friday before the start of free agency was delayed by three days.
Bentley, however, denied that report and had no further comment about his immediate plans.
Whoa. I wonder why he would deny the report outright. It's not like he gives a farg what the Saints think of him. Wonder if he has spiked the "possible problem child" meter in anyone's mind in the FO. Hope not.
I guess he is smart to deny it for now so he doesnt implicate himself in any sort of tampering claim. If your gonna play it, you might as well play it smart.
he cant tamper himself
hopefully what it is is that the birds and/or his agent told him to play it cool as far as tampering shtein goes
If I'm him, I make sure there's some doubt so that the Eagles don't pare back their offer, thinking he really wants to be in Philly, so they can get away with it. If he knows the Eagles are going to come calling right away, and he knows he wants to be in Philly really bad, the best way for him to make sure his wallet gets really fat is to play it cool.
Hopefully he is just playing it cool. That would suck if these Bentley rumors are false.
Quote from: PhillyPhaninDC on March 03, 2006, 08:24:04 PM
Adam Schefter was on Total Access tonight and confirmed that Bentley was the Birds main target for the offensive line, but he said the indications were that the Birds second big target, was another Saint, Darren Howard. Thoughts?
The Eagles sign Bentley, Howard (who can play DE and DT) in FA and draft Bunkley (if Davis is gone) at 14... anyone in the room with me at the time runs the risk of being decapitated. :yay
Quote from: Philly Forever on March 04, 2006, 03:32:19 PM
Hopefully he is just playing it cool. That would suck if these Bentley rumors are false.
I'd like to think that's the case. No matter how close it may seem to be... until FA officially opens, the deal could still fall through. I'd think the Eagles have Bentley keeping it real hush, hush on things so he doesn't tip their hand... leaving the door open not only to tampering issues, but leaving the door open for another team to swoop in and try to pry him away from the Eagles.
Quote from: EagleFeva on March 04, 2006, 04:55:46 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhaninDC on March 03, 2006, 08:24:04 PM
Adam Schefter was on Total Access tonight and confirmed that Bentley was the Birds main target for the offensive line, but he said the indications were that the Birds second big target, was another Saint, Darren Howard. Thoughts?
The Eagles sign Bentley, Howard (who can play DE and DT) in FA and draft Bunkley (if Davis is gone) at 14... anyone in the room with me at the time runs the risk of being decapitated. :yay
Good thinking. I said the same thing either in this topic or another one. We'd have a sick d-line if that happened.
But then I'd be hoping Vernon Davis goes early so I wouldn't have to say "what if..."
Quote from: EagleFeva on March 04, 2006, 04:55:46 PM
The Eagles sign Bentley, Howard (who can play DE and DT) in FA and draft Bunkley (if Davis is gone) at 14... anyone in the room with me at the time runs the risk of being decapitated. :yay
Paging Moloko9... :-D
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on March 05, 2006, 10:31:50 AM
Quote from: EagleFeva on March 04, 2006, 04:55:46 PM
The Eagles sign Bentley, Howard (who can play DE and DT) in FA and draft Bunkley (if Davis is gone) at 14... anyone in the room with me at the time runs the risk of being decapitated. :yay
Paging Moloko9... :-D
He's been warned. It was a close call on 4th and 26... and he barely survived the Eagles beating Atlanta in the NFCCG.
Brookover article (http://www.philly.com/mld/philly/sports/14026598.htm)
QuoteAll indications remained that the Eagles planned to strike a quick deal with unrestricted free agent LeCharles Bentley despite a denial by the New Orleans Saints center over the weekend.
After a source close to the center said Thursday that Bentley planned to join the Eagles once the free-agent period opened, he denied The Inquirer's report in the New Orleans Times-Picayune. He did not deny, however, that he had no plans to return to the Saints.
"I would rather sit out a season than play for the Saints again," Bentley told CBSSportsline.com.
Quote from: EagleFeva on March 05, 2006, 05:02:24 PM
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on March 05, 2006, 10:31:50 AM
Quote from: EagleFeva on March 04, 2006, 04:55:46 PM
The Eagles sign Bentley, Howard (who can play DE and DT) in FA and draft Bunkley (if Davis is gone) at 14... anyone in the room with me at the time runs the risk of being decapitated. :yay
Paging Moloko9... :-D
He's been warned. It was a close call on 4th and 26... and he barely survived the Eagles beating Atlanta in the NFCCG.
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LOL @ the Village Landscaper... :-D
Quote from: SD_Eagle on March 06, 2006, 07:20:00 AM
Brookover article (http://www.philly.com/mld/philly/sports/14026598.htm)
QuoteAll indications remained that the Eagles planned to strike a quick deal with unrestricted free agent LeCharles Bentley despite a denial by the New Orleans Saints center over the weekend.
After a source close to the center said Thursday that Bentley planned to join the Eagles once the free-agent period opened, he denied The Inquirer's report in the New Orleans Times-Picayune. He did not deny, however, that he had no plans to return to the Saints.
"I would rather sit out a season than play for the Saints again," Bentley told CBSSportsline.com.
When it says say "he denied", does he mean the source denied or Bentley denied?
I'm pretty sure 'he' is Bentley, since the following sentence also refers to him as 'he' and also contains a direct quote.
Good, then it's nothing new. If the source denied what he said earlier in the week, then it would be bad news.
(Sirius) Listening to the Afternoon blitz right now, John Riggins and Adam Schein are the hosts, they just said "Bentley in Philly is all but a done deal". Joked about tampering but said they're hearing it's all but a signed deal. :yay
Football boners!
Good stuff.
There's less football boners every time your sig pic appears.
Tell that to Chuggie.
(Sirius) Listening to the Afternoon blitz right now, John Riggins and Adam Schein are the hosts, they just said "Bentley in Philly is all but a done deal". Joked about tampering but said they're hearing it's all but a signed deal
they dont hear anything we dont...they are saying that cause of the brookover article
QuoteEagles interested in vet center Mawae
By LES BOWEN
bowenl@phillynews.com
Free agency is bound to start eventually, whether there's a new collective bargaining agreement or not. When it does, the Eagles are still expected to be very active.
Mark Bartelstein, agent for recently released Jets center Kevin Mawae, said yesterday he has spoken with the Eagles about his client. That's a bit of a surprise, because the Birds have been reported to be poised to sign New Orleans free-agent-to-be center LeCharles Bentley.
One explanation might be that if a new CBA emerges from the current owners meeting in Dallas, the $94.5 million salary cap will rise dramatically and Bentley might suddenly have more suitors and a higher price tag. Until the Eagles actually have signed Bentley, they don't have him, and they could feel a need to hedge their bet.
Bartelstein said he didn't ask the Birds about their reported dalliance with Bentley.
"I'm sure they have interest in Kevin, but they aren't going to put all their eggs in one basket,'' Bartelstein said.
Mawae is 35, and Bentley is 26, but unlike Bentley, Mawae is available now - having been cut, he doesn't need to wait for free agency to sign with a new team. Mawae is a six-time Pro Bowler; Bentley made the Pro Bowl this past season after previously making it as a guard.
The Eagles have been linked in media reports to a number of pending free agents, a list probably topped by Bentley and Pittsburgh wide receiver-punt returner Antwaan Randle El. Other prominent names include Kansas City linebacker Shawn Barber, Detroit quarterback Jeff Garcia, Denver running back Mike Anderson (Barber and Anderson are in Mawae's category, having been released last week) and New York Giants defensive tackle Kendrick Clancy.
Barber, 31, is an intriguing possibility because he played well for the Eagles in 2002. Veteran linebackers who come to Philadelphia have had trouble learning the ins and outs of Jim Johnson's defense - the year Barber was here, before leaving as a free agent for Kansas City, he said it took him until about midseason. But obviously, if Barber were to return, he would not need such a long adjustment period, unlike the other linebackers on the market or available in the draft.
Barber's agent, Brian Mackler, said he expected to be talking to at least half a dozen teams when free-agency began, possibly including the Eagles.
Meanwhile, the Eagles are in the process of hiring an assistant special-teams coach after Oakland hired Ted Daisher to take over its special teams. One likely candidate is current kicking coach Randy Brown, but Brown might be hurt by the fact that he only coaches special teams. Daisher helped out with the defensive line as well; before he left he was assisting new d-line coach Pete Jenkins in his adjustment to Johnson's complex defensive scheme.
QuoteOne explanation might be that if a new CBA emerges from the current owners meeting in Dallas, the $94.5 million salary cap will rise dramatically and Bentley might suddenly have more suitors and a higher price tag. Until the Eagles actually have signed Bentley, they don't have him, and they could feel a need to hedge their bet.
If those fargers up in NY have ruined the Eagles' chances with Bentley with all this sissy-fighting and FA delays... :boom
thats a cop out by the eagles...yes with a new deal everyone gets extra money to play with but the eagles get that same money plus what they had originally...so theres no reason they shouldnt still go out and get him
That's what I'm sayin'. If another team ala JAX tries to throw a deal at him that is equal to what the Eagles would've given him w/o a CBA then the Eagles just use some more money and up the offer to offset the raise in the cap.
I think that maybe they are looking at both of them. Putting Bentley at LG and Mawae at C.
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 08, 2006, 08:44:35 AM
thats a cop out by the eagles...yes with a new deal everyone gets extra money to play with but the eagles get that same money plus what they had originally...so theres no reason they shouldnt still go out and get him
I get that... but with more teams jumping into the fray... including the teams that didn't manage their cap well enough to afford him w/o a new CBA... Bentley has the option to generate a bidding war and possibly price himself out of the Eagles' range.
how can he price himself out of the eagles range and not everyone elses...the eagles have essentially as much money as anyone...now if it was a middle of the road FA who was being grossly overpaid i could understand getting out...but we are talking about the best guy by far at his position...and young to boot...if the eagles dont get him its because they are cheap....period
FYI...
Mawae is in Miami today and wil visit with the Fish.
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 08, 2006, 08:48:58 AM
if the eagles dont get him its because they are cheap....period
Unless he prefers to sign elsewhere. That happens, IGY.
Some players simply prefer to play near their hometown or for a specific franchise for whatever reason.
Money isn't the be-all, end-all of everything especially if the numbers are close.
It's not about how much money the Eagles have... it's about how much they were spending on him. Look bottom line is they (allegedly) had him when FA was supposed to start. Now... other teams can get in, with an extra $10 mil a piece and all of a sudden the Eagles have to outbid everyone for a guy they would have already been fitting for a jersey had there been no FA delays. You can't tell me that you don't think that penalizes the Eagles. Also, because we'd have to outbid everyone for Bentley and give him more money, maybe that takes us out of the race or less of a player for another FA or two we were targeting because there's less money in the pot.
Has nothing to do with the Eagles being cheap or not. It's about being penalized for doing what they were supposed to cap-wise at the expense of those who totally disregared it for years.
I won'e ven get into how dumb the whole "Eagles are cheap" thing is. God knows how many times that myth has been proven wrong.
nobody's being penalized...they all play under the same rules.
if the eagles really want bentley, they shouldn't allow themselves to be outbid. if they do, it's because they'd rather go the cheap route.....again.
The only way I don't see him coming here is if Cleveland enters the bidding. He is from Cleveland and I think he'd take a little less to go home and play. But they have Jeff Faine as their C so I don't know if they'd be looking for another guy.
Quote from: hunt on March 08, 2006, 09:05:48 AM
nobody's being penalized...they all play under the same rules.
if the eagles really want bentley, they shouldn't allow themselves to be outbid. if they do, it's because they'd rather go the cheap route.....again.
or because they would rather obtain multiple FA's rather than blow the load on one.
Also, because we'd have to outbid everyone for Bentley and give him more money, maybe that takes us out of the race or less of a player for another FA or two we were targeting because there's less money in the pot.
so you rather have a couple lesser players than the best player at his position...not me...and bently will not want so much that it will take up all the eagles cap money...they are going to have a boatload of cash
again if its david givens then maybe i dont get in a bidding war...but bently is the best player at his position in the entire league...and they have a massive need at that position and the money to fill it...there is no excuse not to get him...no matter how much you FO lackeys try and spin it
lmfao at going on the "eagles are cheap" route again for some of you.
Quote from: MURP on March 08, 2006, 09:08:51 AM
Quote from: hunt on March 08, 2006, 09:05:48 AM
nobody's being penalized...they all play under the same rules.
if the eagles really want bentley, they shouldn't allow themselves to be outbid. if they do, it's because they'd rather go the cheap route.....again.
or because they would rather obtain multiple FA's rather than blow the load on one.
Very true.
Multiple FAs being Jeff Garcia and Shawn Barber.
Quote from: hunt on March 08, 2006, 09:05:48 AM
nobody's being penalized...they all play under the same rules.
if the eagles really want bentley, they shouldn't allow themselves to be outbid. if they do, it's because they'd rather go the cheap route.....again.
Question(s)... could the Skins afford Bentley if they wanted to with no CBA and without purging their entire team as of March 3rd? Will they be able to with a new CBA and $10 million extra?
Even if they were not outbid... they're still penalized because they would have had to spend more money than they would have had to 5 days ago.
Multiple FAs being Jeff Garcia and Shawn Barber
winner
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 08, 2006, 09:09:33 AM
no matter how much you FO lackeys try and spin it
Tiresome... I wasn't trying to spin anything. I was offering a plausible alternative explanation as to why he might sign elsewhere if everything else is equal.
getting 2-3 mediocre free agents instead of getting a guy who's the best at his position doesn't exactly get me excited.
i'd rather see them go balls out to get bentley.
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 08, 2006, 09:12:49 AM
Multiple FAs being Jeff Garcia and Shawn Barber
winner
if thats true, then it wouldnt be so hot, but are you not the guy who has said about 20 times now that all the media talk on FA's is BS until proven true?
Quote from: hunt on March 08, 2006, 09:16:42 AM
getting 2-3 mediocre free agents instead of getting a guy who's the best at his position doesn't exactly get me excited.
i'd rather see them go balls out to get bentley.
i agree
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 08, 2006, 09:09:33 AM
Also, because we'd have to outbid everyone for Bentley and give him more money, maybe that takes us out of the race or less of a player for another FA or two we were targeting because there's less money in the pot.
so you rather have a couple lesser players than the best player at his position...not me...and bently will not want so much that it will take up all the eagles cap money...they are going to have a boatload of cash
again if its david givens then maybe i dont get in a bidding war...but bently is the best player at his position in the entire league...and they have a massive need at that position and the money to fill it...there is no excuse not to get him...no matter how much you FO lackeys try and spin it
No one said anything about wanting lesser players. Obviously I want Bentley which is why the thing pisses me off in the 1st place. I also never that they couldn't get him if they wanted... and he'd be worth every penny IMO... my point is that outside of Bentley, it could effect other FA's the Eagles may try to persue. There will be more teams that can now be active in FA for the rest of the FA pool... again which takes away the advantage the Eagles have created for themselves by managing the cap the way it's supposed to be. Maybe if you tried reading what I wrote instead of flying off on your "Eagles are cheap" tangent... you could comprehend that.
it's not worth arguing about until FA actually starts and they are allowed to sign players
Quote from: MURP on March 08, 2006, 09:19:01 AM
Quote from: hunt on March 08, 2006, 09:16:42 AM
getting 2-3 mediocre free agents instead of getting a guy who's the best at his position doesn't exactly get me excited.
i'd rather see them go balls out to get bentley.
i agree
Me too.
Quote from: Sun_Mo on March 08, 2006, 09:19:58 AM
it's not worth arguing about until FA actually starts and they are allowed to sign players
Werd to yo mama...
QuoteBentley, Garcia on Eagles' radar
Anderson is also a possibility
Wednesday, March 08, 2006
By MARK ECKEL
Staff Writer
PHILADELPHIA -- If, and when, free agency in the NFL finally begins -- it's slated for 12:01 a.m. tomorrow -- the Eagles are ready to strike quickly.
Sources have confirmed reports that the team will go hard after free agent center LeCharles Bentley of New Orleans and quarterback Jeff Garcia of Detroit.
According to one source both could be with the team as soon as tomorrow and probably no later than Friday.
There was word out of Denver yesterday that the Eagles could also be interested in running back Mike Anderson, who was cut by the Broncos last week, as the team pared its payroll to get under the salary cap.
Bentley, arguably the most attractive totally free/free agent on the market, will provide a boost for an Eagles offensive line that struggled at times last year.
Garcia would be a veteran backup to starter Donovan McNabb and the team hopes an upgrade from the duo of Mike McMahon and Koy Detmer.
Anderson, who rushed for 126 yards and a touchdown last year against the Eagles, would give the Eagles a big back to compliment starter Brian Westbrook.
Here are what some scouts are saying about all three potential future Eagles.
"He's only been playing center for two years, but he might be the best in the game already," one NFC man said of Bentley. "He's not a bad guard, either, but he's really a center and that's where you should play him."
"I love him," another personnel man said. "He's one nasty (expletive). But he's not a dumb (expletive). He's smart, he's just real physical. You got to love that about him. He's the kind of lineman who will make your other linemen better."
Bentley, 6-2, 313, was a second-round pick of the Saints in the 2002 draft. The Eagles' director of college scouting at the time, Marc Ross, highly recommended the center from Ohio State to head coach Andy Reid.
Instead, the Eagles selected cornerback Lito Sheppard with the 26th pick in the draft. Now they may have the chance to get both.
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Garcia turned 36 this month and is coming off a poor, injury-plagued season with the Lions.
He completed 59 percent of his passes (102-for-173) for the Lions, but for just 937 yards, an average of 5.42 yards per completion. He also threw twice as many interceptions (6) as touchdown passes (3). His quarterback rating was a career-low 65.1.
"He's not the guy he was," one scout said. "I think he might be done. He didn't show me anything last year in Detroit. They were counting on him there. He got hurt and then he came back and didn't do much."
Another scout had a different opinion on the former 49er, who worked with current Eagles offensive coordinator Marty Mornhinweg when both were in San Francisco.
"You're not getting the guy who went to the Pro Bowl a few years ago, but he can be a decent backup for you," he said. "He knows that offense as well as anyone. Really, he has to be better than the guys they had there last year."
-- -- --
Anderson, 6-0, 230, could have been an Eagle in the past, twice.
They passed on him in the 2000 draft and instead selected running back Thomas Hamner of Minnesota.
Denver also offered him to the Eagles for a mid-round pick a couple of years later, but the Eagles passed.
Last year, he rushed for 1,014 yards and 12 touchdowns, his best season since his rookie year when he rushed for 1,487 yards and 15 touchdowns.
Anderson, 32, missed all of the 2004 season with a groin injury but came back nicely last year to help the Broncos win the AFC West title.
"You have to worry about running backs from Denver," one scout said. "They all look good when they're there. But I think he still has some gas in the tank. He's a good No. 2, if you have another guy. (The Eagles) do in Westbrook, so that would work."
I miss Thomas Hamner.
I have read on another Eagles fan board that Eckel said last night:
1. When FA starts, the Eagles will be on the phone to BOTH Bentley's and Garcia's agents.
2. The surprise of FA is going to be Mike Anderson. Supposedly, according to Eckel, Anderrson's agent has said that the Eagles have contacted him, because Reid wants to go back to the "three headed monster" with Westbrook, Moats, and Anderson all carrying the ball.
I know it's Eckel, just weante to jknow if anyone else heard this? If this has been posted before, apologies.
For once in my life, I hope Eckel's right.
Quote from: bobbyinlondon on March 08, 2006, 10:26:40 AM
I have read on another Eagles fan board that Eckel said last night:
1. When FA starts, the Eagles will be on the phone to BOTH Bentley's and Garcia's agents.
2. The surprise of FA is going to be Mike Anderson. Supposedly, according to Eckel, Anderrson's agent has said that the Eagles have contacted him, because Reid wants to go back to the "three headed monster" with Westbrook, Moats, and Anderson all carrying the ball.
I know it's Eckel, just weante to jknow if anyone else heard this? If this has been posted before, apologies.
I just drooled on my keyboard. But its Eckel's reporting, so I can't possibly rely on it.
Kevin Johnson anyone?
if it was only Eckel saying it, you'd have a point, but the Eagles and Anderson's name have been mentioned together other places too
Quote from: Sun_Mo on March 08, 2006, 10:35:07 AM
if it was only Eckel saying it, you'd have a point, but the Eagles and Anderson's name have been mentioned together other places too
Eckel saying that a report out of Denver said it.
That report was already posted on this board. It was a random blurb at the bottom of some Broncos article that the Eagles MAY be interested in him and someone else MAY be interested in Pryce.
So it's gonna happen then.
Anderson + Bentley = awesome
Quote from: phattymatty on March 08, 2006, 10:36:55 AM
Anderson + Bentley = awesome
Yeah, but how does that help us throw deep on 3rd and 1?
Quote from: EagleFeva on March 08, 2006, 10:39:51 AM
Quote from: phattymatty on March 08, 2006, 10:36:55 AM
Anderson + Bentley = awesome
Yeah, but how does that help us throw deep on 3rd and 1?
We'll have Pinkston back. ;D
Quote from: EagleFeva on March 08, 2006, 10:39:51 AM
Quote from: phattymatty on March 08, 2006, 10:36:55 AM
Anderson + Bentley = awesome
Yeah, but how does that help us throw deep on 3rd and 1?
with the new cap space, we'll sign TO by then.
Kevin Johnson has yet to truly unleash the fury of his talent on the NFL.
He's just waiting to be reuinited with Donovan to truly blossom into the weapon that everyone knows he can truly be.
would love it if the Eagles scoop up Mike Anderson. Hes got enough gas for 5-10 carries a game, better than relying on the broke down RBs we have besides Westy and Moats. And Anderson can play FB as well if i remember correctly.
He's just waiting to be reuinited with Donovan to truly blossom into the weapon that everyone knows he can truly be.
a double truly
nice!
Get Rob Konrad too! :D
NC says Bentley is a done deal, FWIW...
Quote from: BigEd76 on March 08, 2006, 11:22:08 AM
NC says Bentley is a done deal, FWIW...
Um... tampering anyone?
Yeah, dave is real smart. ::)
That's not what I meant. People are freaking out all of a sudden, thinking Jacksonville or Minnesota will sneak in and grab him. I'm just saying it won't happen, that's all....
Quote from: BigEd76 on March 08, 2006, 11:32:11 AM
That's not what I meant. People are freaking out all of a sudden, thinking Jacksonville or Minnesota will sneak in and grab him. I'm just saying it won't happen, that's all....
All the Eagles can possibly know is that they will have the first crack at signing him. What they think is going to be an amazing, unbeatable offer might be exactly that... or it might be something that causes Bentley to play the market.
This guy's going to make some bank. 8-figure signing bonus is a given.
What are the odds that Jacksonville snags a player from under the Eagles' noses?
Quote from: BigEd76 on March 08, 2006, 11:32:11 AM
That's not what I meant. People are freaking out all of a sudden, thinking Jacksonville or Minnesota will sneak in and grab him. I'm just saying it won't happen, that's all....
I'm not freaking out... I just know that until he puts pen to paper... he can chase more money if he chooses to.
Quote from: General_Failure on March 08, 2006, 11:42:33 AM
What are the odds that Jacksonville snags a player from under the Eagles' noses?
ask Hugh.
generally most agents will not play the field if they receieve what they know and believe is more than a fair offer...its part of the unwritten rules of negotiating...
Quote from: BigEd76 on March 08, 2006, 11:22:08 AM
Get Rob Konrad too! :D
NC says Bentley is a done deal, FWIW...
That just made my day.
Quote from: EagleFeva on March 08, 2006, 11:42:39 AM
Quote from: BigEd76 on March 08, 2006, 11:32:11 AM
That's not what I meant. People are freaking out all of a sudden, thinking Jacksonville or Minnesota will sneak in and grab him. I'm just saying it won't happen, that's all....
I'm not freaking out... I just know that until he puts pen to paper... he can chase more money if he chooses to.
i am hoping he wasnt real close with Fred Thomas
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 08, 2006, 11:44:07 AM
generally most agents will not play the field if they receieve what they know and believe is more than a fair offer...its part of the unwritten rules of negotiating...
For Bentley, that would probably be 5 or 6 year deal worth no less than $25-$30 million overall, with $10-$12 million upfront... maybe something like that? It's going to be a lot of money.
hes more than worth it
again
best player in the nfl (not just in FA) at his position + a HUGE need = cake dook off
Quote from: FFatPatt on March 08, 2006, 11:51:33 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 08, 2006, 11:44:07 AM
generally most agents will not play the field if they receieve what they know and believe is more than a fair offer...its part of the unwritten rules of negotiating...
For Bentley, that would probably be 5 or 6 year deal worth no less than $25-$30 million overall, with $10-$12 million upfront... maybe something like that? It's going to be a lot of money.
I could live with that.
My best guess would be 6 years, $14 million in guarantees (maybe $11m of it immediately up-front), total value of about $35 million. But that's a total stab in the dark.
Kreutz got 6/$23M/$7M SB a few years ago when he was a top FA, so you figure it will be at least $25M...
king reporting that bently will be at novacare for a physical as soon as the cba ish is over
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 08, 2006, 03:27:39 PM
king reporting that bently will be at novacare for a physical as soon as the cba ish is over
Peter King? Where did he report this?
duh...he was obviously referring to martin luthur king.
Eskin just said the same thing on WIP, that he'll be here provided the FA period starts tonight.
Quote from: hunt on March 08, 2006, 03:33:50 PM
duh...he was obviously referring to martin luthur king.
Thanks for the info! :yay
king = eskin dummies
Schefter on NFL Network reports that Bentley is on a plane to PHL INTL right now.
nicey, nice!
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on March 08, 2006, 05:48:58 PM
Schefter on NFL Network reports that Bentley is on a plane to PHL INTL right now.
That's very cool. Although I'm starting to hope the owners find an agreement and FA starts Friday.
Don't ask me why. I guess I'm brainwashed from all this "good for the sport" talk.
He said that Bentley was on his way here right now and that it looked like he was our guy. :o
Sorry...this was mentioned allready.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on March 08, 2006, 05:48:58 PM
Schefter on NFL Network reports that Bentley is on a plane to PHL INTL right now.
That's a beautiful thing. :yay
On the way to Philly Int'l, huh?
Great. We'll see you on Tuesday, LeCharles.
i just heard we might sign lecharles bentley. thats awsome.
Quote from: MDS on March 08, 2006, 06:35:57 PM
i just heard we might sign lecharles bentley. thats awsome.
farg him, he sounds french.
Quote from: EagleFeva on March 08, 2006, 10:39:51 AM
Quote from: phattymatty on March 08, 2006, 10:36:55 AM
Anderson + Bentley = awesome
Yeah, but how does that help us throw deep on 3rd and 1?
Best Post Ever...
In this thread.
Quote from: Displaced on March 08, 2006, 06:54:34 PM
Quote from: EagleFeva on March 08, 2006, 10:39:51 AM
Quote from: phattymatty on March 08, 2006, 10:36:55 AM
Anderson + Bentley = awesome
Yeah, but how does that help us throw deep on 3rd and 1?
Gives McNabb time to wait for Pinky to get bitch slapped off the line before he streaks down the field to get open?