JETS AND CHARGERS TO ANNOUNCE BLOCKBUSTER
DE-Abraham To San Diego - QB-Rivers To New York
The DinoCosta Show has learned through an exclusive source that the NY Jets & San Diego Chargers are set to make a Blockbuster trade.
The Chargers will send quarterback Philip Rivers, the 4th overall pick in the 2004 NFL draft, to the Jets, in return for pass rushing defensive end John Abraham. Rivers has been stuck behind Chargers quarterback Drew Brees the last two seasons, and will be re-uniting with former Chargers asst. Brian Schottenheimer who was recently named the Jets offensive coordinator.
Schottenheimer is planning to install an offensive system that is similar in design to the Chargers current system - a system that Rivers is comfortable in and familiar with. Abraham has been miffed that the Jets haven't given him a new contract after proving that he could play an entire 16 game schedule as he did last year.
The Chargers will slide Abraham nicely into their 3-4 defense that will also feature Shawne Merriman, providing San Diego with a terrific twosome that will give the rest of the AFC West fits.
This trade makes sense for both teams and makes the Chargers "quiet" signing of quarterback A.J. Feeley last season something that was apparently done with the long term in mind. A big question for the Jets is what will they do with current quarterback Chad Pennington...should he be successful in returning from major shoulder surgery for a second time.
if true it seems like a good deal on both ends.
a lazy DE, and a QB who's never played is considered a blockbuster?
i scoff!
but should be decent for both teams. unless that thing on Brees' face winds up consuming him whole.
eagles back up qb chad pennington
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 09, 2006, 12:59:07 PM
eagles back up qb chad pennington
yes it would make sense that Andy Reid would find the one QB with an arm weaker than Koy's.
This makes good sense...the Daily News reported today that Abraham would be franchised and then traded...
If I'm Shawn Merriman hearing this, I'm in heaven. Imagine it..both of those dogs chasing the QB..
Weak arm or not, Pennington would be a huge improvement over the trash we have now at backup QB.
Seems like a pretty obvious trade. That's been a rumor in the NY-area basically since Schottenheimer came on.
Pennington? :puke
No farging way. Keep Koy.
hey wiggy, got a linky for this story? I wanna send it to some Jets fans I work with...
http://www.dinocosta.com/ToC.html
Thanks.
Wow... is this seriously even debateable?!
Pennington>>>>>>>>>>>Koy/McMahon
Wow...apparently there are people who think that a QB who had sub-standard arm strength BEFORE sustaining TWO rotator cuff injuries to his throwing shoulder is going to somehow recover well enough to play NFL football.
Pennington is done. Done, I say.
i guess you havent heard andy can turn water into wine
So what you're saying is that he can turn a blown shoulder into a good ankle?
Quote from: Diomedes on February 09, 2006, 01:42:13 PM
Wow...apparently there are people who think that a QB who had sub-standard arm strength BEFORE sustaining TWO rotator cuff injuries to his throwing shoulder is going to somehow recover well enough to play NFL football.
Pennington is done. Done, I say.
Arm strength or no... Pennington has a rep of throwing TD's to his teammates instead of the opposing defense. That alone makes him a serious upgrade.
The Chargers are getting raped in that deal. At no point of his career was Abraham worth the #4 overall pick in the draft. So what if Rivers has never played, he still has a higher value than that.
don't underestimate the value of getting Rivers off the cap
Quote from: SD_Eagle on February 09, 2006, 02:54:40 PM
The Chargers are getting raped in that deal. At no point of his career was Abraham worth the #4 overall pick in the draft. So what if Rivers has never played, he still has a higher value than that.
That logic makes zero sense. There are plenty of recent top-5 picks in the draft that suck completely and/or are out of the NFL. The fact that Rivers hasn't played makes him an unknown commodity, not a bona fide stud.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on February 09, 2006, 02:54:40 PM
The Chargers are getting raped in that deal. At no point of his career was Abraham worth the #4 overall pick in the draft. So what if Rivers has never played, he still has a higher value than that.
well, they are giving up a guy who (barring injury) wont even see the field this year for a proven starting DE. Not that bad IMO.
Quote from: FFatPatt on February 09, 2006, 02:56:20 PM
Quote from: SD_Eagle on February 09, 2006, 02:54:40 PM
The Chargers are getting raped in that deal. At no point of his career was Abraham worth the #4 overall pick in the draft. So what if Rivers has never played, he still has a higher value than that.
That logic makes zero sense. There are plenty of recent top-5 picks in the draft that suck completely and/or are out of the NFL. The fact that Rivers hasn't played makes him an unknown commodity, not a bona fide stud.
Point taken, and I take back what I said earlier after seeing that Abraham is only 27 years old. For some reason I thought he was into his 30's
Also keep in mind that Abraham doesn't want to be there, and that the Jets don't want to pay him long term.
Quote from: Zanshin on February 09, 2006, 03:02:21 PM
Also keep in mind that Abraham doesn't want to be there, and that the Jets don't want to pay him long term.
Maybe we can make this the ***2006 Point and Laugh at SD thread***
Trade does makes some sense but does anyone know how well Brees is recovering from his sholder injury. Are San Diego not taking a bit of a chance?
AJ Feeley to the rescue for them, baby. ;)
Quote from: 4and26 on February 09, 2006, 03:15:56 PM
does anyone know how well Brees is recovering from his sholder injury.
last I read he was ahead of schedule.
Quote from: 4and26 on February 09, 2006, 03:15:56 PM...does anyone know how well Brees is recovering from his sholder injury.
Here are the pertinent kffl blurbs on the subject:
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Chargers | Brees' rehab going well
Thu, 26 Jan 2006 23:16:45 -0800
Casey Pearce, of Chargers.com, reports San Diego Chargers QB Drew Brees (shoulder) said his rehabilitation process is going very well, despite reports to the contrary. "I'm feeling pretty good," Brees said. "I'm three weeks post-op. Right now, I'm at the point where people usually are after six weeks. I'm about three weeks ahead of schedule." Approximately one week ago, Brees shed his sling and began using his right arm for routine tasks. Prior to the operation, Brees said that he hoped to be throwing a football by May. He's still hopeful that he'll meet that date.
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Chargers | Brees surgery goes well - from www.KFFL.com
Thu, 5 Jan 2006 19:17:33 -0800
San Diego Chargers QB Drew Brees (shoulder) underwent successful arthroscopic surgery Thursday afternoon Jan. 5, in Birmingham, Alabama to repair a torn labrum in his right shoulder. The surgery was done by Dr. James Andrews. Brees will return to San Diego next week and immediately begin an aggressive rehabilitation program on the road to a full recovery. He is expected to begin throwing in four months and be ready to participate in training camp. "Though his recovery period is longer than we had hoped for, we couldn't be happier that Drew is expected to make a full recovery," said general manager A.J. Smith.
So it's going well?
I think they were going to trade one or the other, but w/ Brees injury, only Rivers would garner anything.
can you imagine the jets trading for a shoulder injury after the pennington fiasco......dont do it
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Approximately one week ago, Brees shed his sling and began using his right arm for routine tasks.
:-D
Wow, this really sucks for the Eagles. Not only do you lose the opportunity to get Abraham, but the Jets are probably going to draft Mario Williams to fill that DE spot now.
Eagles are losing options at DE here dammit. :boom
Quote from: Philly Forever on February 09, 2006, 04:39:44 PM
Wow, this really sucks for the Eagles. Not only do you lose the opportunity to get Abraham, but the Jets are probably going to draft Mario Williams to fill that DE spot now.
Eagles are losing options at DE here dammit. :boom
The Eagles were never going to get Abraham, and they didn't have a legitimate shot at Williams anyway.
What the Jets should be doing is trading with Houston for the first pick to get Bush and Houston can take Ferguson and the world can make sense. Also, anyone who thought the Eagles would ever have had a shot at Williams was hitting the pipe hard.
The Eagles were never going to get Williams, and they dont want anything to do with Abraham.
At least there was a glimpse of hope before this rumor.
Where do the Eagles look next? Kiwanuka or Dumervil?
Raheem Brock. Or some third rounder that no one's ever heard of.
I think they'll get a nice stud in here at DE, but they certainly are running out of options. That is for sure.
why is it a blockbuster trade? its not as if the nfl offseason is filled with an overwhelming amount of player swaps. should be top 3 of the 3 nfl trades this offseason.
GET BROCK! This team needs more irony.
1. This is one of those trades that works out for both teams. The Jets get their young QB and the Chargers defense gets a lot better. Pennington's arm injuries are a big deal. As is his salary cap number, but I guess the Jets are prepared to take a huge hit on that. Because you KNOW that Pennigton will not be happy. They arent bringin in Rivers to be his backup.
The Chargers pass rush is now downright scary good. To go along with Merriman, Castillo, Foley and Phillips they have John Abraham. While he is a lazy slacker in my eyes for his little "I'm not playing in this playoff game (against SD) because its my contract year" he is still a good pass rusher. And now that SD will undoubtedly give him a huge contract he will be happy. Once they upgrade that secondary that defense is going to be great.
2. The Eagles never had a shot at Abraham.
3. Elvis Dumervil shouldn't be a main target. He might be a good player but he shouldn't be a guy that you are looking forward to making an impact. He'll be a 3rd rounder most likely and should be a 4th rounder. His height (5'11) could be an issue. I wouldn't mind taking a flyer on him in the later rounds if he slips, but in no way do I target him as a savior.
Quote from: FFatPatt on February 09, 2006, 04:43:15 PM
Quote from: Philly Forever on February 09, 2006, 04:39:44 PM
Wow, this really sucks for the Eagles. Not only do you lose the opportunity to get Abraham, but the Jets are probably going to draft Mario Williams to fill that DE spot now.
Eagles are losing options at DE here dammit. :boom
The Eagles were never going to get Abraham, and they didn't have a legitimate shot at Williams anyway.
Thanks for ruining the ability for some others to act like they know something & feign outrage. :boom :-D