According to TV next season will be #20's last with the Birds.
Please discuss.
Jesus...
Vincent said he "thinks" that last year "could be" Dawks last season in Philly because he will be a UFA.
It is 2006, not 2007. Why talk about this now? They'll have a chance to re-sign him in the future. More important things to deal with now.
according to TV? why don't you give more details crackhead?
Troy Vincent was in town for the Philadelphia Sports Writers Awards. Derek Gun was interviewing Troy and Troy said that he believes that next year is Dawkins' last with the Eagles because his contract is up.
I thought there was some confusion to his contract status, what's the deal?
The sky is falling.
Vincent needs to keep his mouth shut on things he has no clue about.
Last time he opened his mouth, he said the window was closed on the Eagles...then they proceeded to go to the Super Bowl the first season without him. ::)
he sounded bitter about the way the Eagles let him walk, he took a shot at them without really saying anything negative.
Mmmm...
crack!
according to animal crackers, there should be a river right about here.
Quote from: phattymatty on February 07, 2006, 08:54:52 AM
according to animal crackers, there should be a river right about here.
Simpsons, trip to Africa episode
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Simpsons, trip to Africa episode
Thank you captain obvious.
Quote from: rjs246 on February 07, 2006, 09:01:34 AM
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Simpsons, trip to Africa episode
Thank you captain obvious.
die.
Last time he opened his mouth, he said the window was closed on the Eagles...then they proceeded to go to the Super Bowl the first season without him
in fairness to troy he was only one year off...and the same people who said the window wasnt closed also had the birds back in the superbowl this year
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 07, 2006, 09:15:18 AM
in fairness to troy he was only one year off...and the same people who said the window wasnt closed also had the birds back in the superbowl this year
so lets get this out of the way now... you dont think the Eagles have a chance to make the Superbowl this upcoming season?
how could i possibly answer that on february 7th
Quote from: Sun_Mo on February 07, 2006, 08:53:50 AM
he sounded bitter about the way the Eagles let him walk, he took a shot at them without really saying anything negative.
He didn't want to give the Eagles a hometown discount, which is fair, but I think he thought he was going to get more--I believe the Bills gave him a 3M bonus, and that WAS AFTER 11 OTHER FA CBs had signed. Bobby Taylor was the last FA corner signed that year, with Seattle. He wanted something more comparable with what he made in his last year in Philly, which was 4.5M. However, I guess I'd sound bitter if I left and the team I left went to the Super Bowl, and the NEXT YEAR, two players that I played with for a few years, eventually got the ring, while I'm (Vincent) is stuck in rebuilding mode in Buffalo.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on February 07, 2006, 08:51:29 AM
Vincent needs to keep his mouth shut on things he has no clue about.
Last time he opened his mouth, he said the window was closed on the Eagles...then they proceeded to go to the Super Bowl the first season without him. ::)
second season without him :P
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 07, 2006, 09:21:02 AM
how could i possibly answer that on february 7th
Troy Vincent had no problem saying the window was closed long before hand.
i aint troy vincent kicko
Quote from: stillupfront on February 07, 2006, 08:45:22 AM
According to TV next season will be #20's last with the Birds.
Please discuss.
Good thread. Free agency thread for 2007.
Troy Vincent >>>>> IGY ????
Troy actually had a heckuva year in Buffalo.
(Insert multiple "rolleyes" smilies here.)
Troy Vincent >>>>> IGY
be ashamed of yourself
Quote from: Wingspan on February 07, 2006, 09:26:05 AM
Quote from: PhillyGirl on February 07, 2006, 08:51:29 AM
Vincent needs to keep his mouth shut on things he has no clue about.
Last time he opened his mouth, he said the window was closed on the Eagles...then they proceeded to go to the Super Bowl the first season without him. ::)
second season without him :P
:sly
troy vincent is the new eagles gm?
wow.
Quote from: MURP on February 07, 2006, 09:18:50 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 07, 2006, 09:15:18 AM
in fairness to troy he was only one year off...and the same people who said the window wasnt closed also had the birds back in the superbowl this year
so lets get this out of the way now... you dont think the Eagles have a chance to make the Superbowl this upcoming season?
We all know how this works. In Novemebr (maybe December) IGY will tell that a) the Eagles had no chance in 2006, or b) that the Eagles were the best team and have shown why. Then he will tell us he knew it all along.
We all know how this works. In Novemebr (maybe December) IGY will tell that a) the Eagles had no chance in 2006, or b) that the Eagles were the best team and have shown why. Then he will tell us he knew it all along.
even the legions of igy haters on this board would agree i never have and never would do that....real recognize real...which is why youre so off right now
Quote from: PhillyGirl on February 07, 2006, 10:30:32 AM
Quote from: Wingspan on February 07, 2006, 09:26:05 AM
Quote from: PhillyGirl on February 07, 2006, 08:51:29 AM
Vincent needs to keep his mouth shut on things he has no clue about.
Last time he opened his mouth, he said the window was closed on the Eagles...then they proceeded to go to the Super Bowl the first season without him. ::)
second season without him :P
:sly
i think i quoted the wrong post.
eh well...screw it.
Quote from: stillupfront on February 07, 2006, 08:45:22 AM
discuss.
Can I just say that I find this habit of yours highly irritating. What are we, your farging guests at a round-table or something?
If you don't have anything to say on a subject, don't start a thread about it.
:-D Sir Meethdeez of Nottingham
Quote from: methdeez on February 07, 2006, 03:03:49 PM
Quote from: stillupfront on February 07, 2006, 08:45:22 AM
discuss.
Can I just say that I find this habit of yours highly irritating. What are we, your farging guests at a round-table or something?
If you don't have anything to say on a subject, don't start a thread about it.
Dude, he's a "successful businessman", and he drives a Cadillac. That means he should be able to do or say whatever he wants without coming under fire for it. Duh.
HE DRIVES A DODGE STRATUS!
I'M A UNIT MANAGER! PEOPLE FEAR ME!
I just wish you weren't a liar.
Quote from: methdeez on February 07, 2006, 03:03:49 PM
Quote from: stillupfront on February 07, 2006, 08:45:22 AM
discuss.
Can I just say that I find this habit of yours highly irritating. What are we, your farging guests at a round-table or something?
If you don't have anything to say on a subject, don't start a thread about it.
That pisses me off, as well. It you want to ask a question or make a point, do so. If it's worthy of discussion, then discussion will naturally follow.
Quote from: FFatPatt on February 07, 2006, 03:20:45 PM
I'M A UNIT MANAGER! PEOPLE FEAR ME!
I'm a middle school teacher! People think I'm crazy! :D
Quote from: MURP on February 07, 2006, 09:32:50 AM
Troy Vincent >>>>> IGY ????
I'd say, Joe Thiesman>>>>>IGY!! No question marks.
Pat Summerwho? >>>>> IGY
Dawkins Highlight Video.* (http://d39.yousendit.com/F/0UY8NB9Z2XQ8U2MXX14KOPXRJ7/Dawk.wmv)
*Credit estasi from the EMB
Quote from: PhillyPhaninDC on March 10, 2006, 05:41:59 AM
Dawkins Highlight Video.* (http://d39.yousendit.com/F/0UY8NB9Z2XQ8U2MXX14KOPXRJ7/Dawk.wmv)
*Credit estasi from the EMB
Next time, start a new thread instead of bumping a stilloncrack special.
Word
oh man! he's hands down my favorite eagle, ever! awesome video. :yay :yay :yay
A pretty good Q & A with Dawk...
QuoteQ&A with the Eagles' safety
Brian Dawkins sits down to discuss the future at the safety position, Terrell Owens and the mindset of the Eagles
By Trent Modglin (tmodglin@pfwmedia.com)
March 23, 2006
A 10-year veteran and four-time Pro Bowler, Brian Dawkins is well-regarded as one of the game's elite safeties and the Eagles' leader on the defensive side of the ball. He ranks ninth on the Eagles' all-time list for games played (141) and finished last season tied for second on the team with three interceptions and third with 125 tackles, the second-highest total of his career. He also added 3.5 sacks as one of the game's most versatile defenders. Dawkins spent time with PFW to discuss a variety of topics, from the drama following Terrell Owens to the improving respect level for safeties.
PFW: Has the safety position changed in the past few years, where you're seeing more versatile guys like yourself out there?
Dawkins: It's definitely changed. I think a lot of that is because you now have a better respect level for the position. Back in the day, you were either run stopping or lining up deep in the middle of the field and just trying not to let anybody get behind you. Or just making the signal calls to get everybody lined up. That really was the extent of the position. But now, because there's more respect, they're coming in wanting to play the safety position instead of being put there, saying that, 'Look, you're playing safety because you can't play corner.' It was a position that was looked down upon, but now you've got guys making plays all over the field, whether it's blitzing, covering guys or covering the slot receiver. Or being able to blitz your corner and having enough confidence in your safety that he can still cover the No. 1 receiver outside. There's a lot of things that safeties are being asked to do every game more often now.
PFW: You've got to enjoy the versatility involved in playing the position.
Dawkins: I'll tell you what, I'm not just saying this because it's me, but I've been doing this for a long time. Even in high school, I was used all over the place. In college, I was used all over the place. I would have to cover the best tight end sometimes, I would have to go cover guys outside. I've been doing this a long, long time, so it's not anything new for me. Even when I got to the NFL, Emmitt (Thomas) used me all over the place covering guys. But when Jim (Johnson) came in (as defensive coordinator) is when he allowed me to utilize the talents I've been blessed with as far as blitzing and everything is concerned. ... You can't just look at my position on the field and say, 'He's only going to do one thing. He's only going to blitz, so we have to look out for him.' Now I'm not only going to blitz. Sometimes I'm going to cover a guy, and have good coverage on him. And you're seeing that from a lot of guys right now.
PFW: What is that level of trust like with Jim? Is your role defined by him, or is there more free rein on your part?
Dawkins: Well, when he came here, he said he looked at film and saw the potential for me to do more things. Be more included in the defense. And so he began to put things in for me, being able to run different blitzes because of the abilities I've been blessed with as far as my range. So he looked to add more and more to his defensive package. Jim just tries to find ways to utilize his different weapons, and a lot of other defensive coordinators don't do that. They may blitz a safety because it's part of their normal package, but they don't put specific things in because of the talents a guy may possess and try to utilize that to the best of the defense's ability. With Jim, I trust him. I completely trust him. If he says a gap is going to be open in a blitz, I'm going to trust that it's going to be open. Now I may get my block knocked off, but that's the trust that I have in him.
PFW: You have to have that trust nowadays with all the constantly changing schemes and things, don't you?
Dawkins: Oh, you have to. Have to. I trust him and the defenses he's going to put us in. I know he's going to make the necessary changes from last year to this year. I do have free rein. It's not to go outside of the defense, but I do have free rein as far as disguising, as long as I get back to where I need to be. And with each guy, you have to know your limitations. I may line up at five yards (off the line of scrimmage) and get to the deep middle, whereas another safety may only be able to line up eight yards (off the line) to be able to get back to the deep middle. You have to know your limitations.
PFW: With Troy Polamalu and Bob Sanders and some of these younger safeties, is it fun for you to see these guys coming of age, or do you wish you could go back a few years to being one of the few safeties who could change the course of a game?
Dawkins: You know what? I still do what I do regardless of who's around, but I definitely love the way that the safety position is getting more and more respect. Now you're seeing Adam Archuleta getting paid what he's getting paid because the respect factor is growing. :-D We used to always be looked down upon for so long, but you have these guys making so many impact plays in the game because they're being utilized and the talent is shining through. So when you have your Ed Reed, your Troy Polamalu, these young guys playing the way they've been playing, it only adds to it.
PFW: Is there anybody you used to watch growing up, or anyone you used to emulate?
Dawkins: Well, two people. First of all, it was Ronnie Lott. The way he could take control of a game by making a big hit, an interception, whatever was called for. I definitely looked up to him when I was younger. When I got a little older, it was Darren Woodson. ... How the Cowboys used him through the Super Bowls and after that. It was always a certain way. And with those two players, you and I both can agree on one thing, and that's consistency. And that's what I try and bring to my team and to my play. I probably will never go out and give you 11 picks in one year. I may never go out and give you 200 tackles in one year, but you can depend on me to be consistently a certain way every year. That's what I've always tried to be is consistent, because those two players that I've looked up to were consistent in every way.
PFW: The Eagles had some disappointing numbers against the pass last year. What didn't work for you guys, and how do you plan on tweaking that this offseason heading into training camp?
Dawkins: We had a lot of issues that contributed to that. First of all, when you lose some of the guys that we lost to free agency, and then you plug in new guys into a system, that's one thing. Then N.D. (Kalu) was coming off an injury and we were trying to depend on him. Then, we lost Jerome (McDougle) early in the year. After that, Darwin Walker got hurt. So the rotation was affected, and our defensive line is predicated on being fresh in the game and being rotated. So when you have these guys having to play more snaps than normal, it wears on them. And then you have rookies on the line, having to play basically starting roles without too much subbing going on. ... And then mistakes were made in the secondary. Some miscommunication. And after a while of giving up (big plays) and losing a little bit, you try to press and make more plays, and that cost us. This year, we're looking to get rid of some of those things. We added Darren Howard for some help in that rotation and get us some pass rush. We got Shawn Barber back in the linebacking corps to give us some more help, and then we're going to get Lito (Sheppard) back, so we're going in the right direction.
PFW: What's something that the average fan doesn't know or doesn't realize about life in the NFL?
Dawkins: Probably that it's not all peaches and cream. We still have our issues (in life) that we have to deal with. One of the things that separates some of the great players is that they're able to get rid of all those things that could hamper them emotionally on the field. We still go through things, whether it's in the household or whatever, and those are the things that some of the guys can't get off their minds when (it's time to play).
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QuotePFW: Any thoughts yet as to what it's going to be like facing Terrell Owens twice next season? Has it even crossed your mind yet, or is it something you try to distance yourself from?
Dawkins: To me, it's not even a big deal because I've faced him before. Had he been on another team and I never had to face him and now I have to, OK, let's talk about it. It's not a big deal now. He's on another team just like he was before he got to the Eagles.
PFW: Can you imagine what the hype is going to be like when he first plays you guys? Of course most of it's media-driven, right?
Dawkins: (Laughs) Really? Oh, I didn't know that. No, it's definitely gonna be hyped. I've already been a part of what T.O. brings to the team as far as the media is concerned. And I'm not talking about all bad now. I'm talking about the good, too. But that's all going to be there, and then that week, whenever we play them, I can only imagine how many questions I'm going to be asked. And not about the offense in general, but one player.
PFW: What do you think is the most difficult part about covering him and keeping him under control?
Dawkins: You just have to make sure that you're close enough to him when he catches the ball. Being one of the best receivers to play the game — to ever play the game — he's going to catch balls, and you know that. But you want to get as close as possible to him so he catches it, you punish him just like anybody else.
PFW: What is the mindset of this team right now, after all the drama from last year and all the injuries?
Dawkins: You know what? You can kind of equate this to playing cards. You have to play with the cards you're dealt, and last year we weren't dealt a real good hand (laughs).
PFW: A lot of deuces and fives?
Dawkins: (Laughs) A lot of deuces, man. We had a bad hand last year. But this year, we've got new cards. And in that, you have a new sense of what we can do this year and what the possibilities are. And also, it's a sigh of relief and you can finally exhale. Last year we were holding our breath the whole time. We didn't know what to expect with injury after injury and then all the stuff that went down with Terrell and Donovan at the end. You just never knew what to expect. Now it's a fresh start, and you don't have to worry about any of that stuff. We're going to bring in whoever we're going to bring in, we're going to get some guys back from injury. And I consider this year to be a success already.
Good read. :yay
Hopefully he gets himself an extension during the season. They better. He deserves to retire an Eagle.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on March 24, 2006, 08:48:35 AM
Good read. :yay
Hopefully he gets himself an extension during the season. They better. He deserves to retire an Eagle.
him and Runayn
Hahahaha. Extension for Dawkins?! Fat farging chance.
Can't wait to have Considine and Mikell "in the mix" for the FS spot in 2007.
I believe they'll give him an extension. They have no one to play FS is he leaves. Unless the draft a guy this year or move Ware there.
QuoteUnless the draft a guy this year...
Bingo.
what the stud prodigy sean considine
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 24, 2006, 09:19:34 AM
what the stud prodigy sean considine
He's going to get in there and compete.
He's going to get in there and compete.
compete for wedgebuster
i remember getting bludgeoned on the board after the draft last year for saying sean considine would never start in this league...while everyone and their brother was on his ballsack as dawks replacement and the sleeper break out player of the year...money cant play
Considine was injured all year last year, so it's unfair to evaluate him.
Of course, the same is true of Thomas Tapeh and Greg Richmond too... so it means absolutely nothing.
i wonder since hes healthy now if hell still be the pick for sleeper bust out player of the year
i was looking back at a thread last week and phreak had for his #1 break out player of last year none other than dhani jones
I don't even want to know who I picked.
This year, my pick is Matt McCoy. You heard it here first.
i was gonna pick that, fag
I think that Barber either gets injured or simply gets beat out... McCoy plays WIL in the base package and possibly also sees occasional time in the nickle package... and I think angry white boy just flies around with reckless abandon and hurts people. Will he be out of position sometimes? Yes. Will he break Drew Bledsoe's knees? Probably.
I don't even want to know who I picked
no idea...i only noticed phreaks cause he started the thread
trent cole is the obvious choice this year...hell be over 10 sacks
Quote from: FFatPatt on March 24, 2006, 09:43:11 AM
I think that Barber either gets injured or simply gets beat out... McCoy plays WIL in the base package and possibly also sees occasional time in the nickle package... and I think angry white boy just flies around with reckless abandon and hurts people. Will he be out of position sometimes? Yes. Will he break Drew Bledsoe's knees? Probably.
he wears a visor, how could he not rock?
My pick for breakout player is Reggie Brown because anyone that can turn water into wine is a farging winner in my book.
ill be happy if mccoy makes the team and is in on a few special teams highlites
visor dude, visor.
i expect to see you at games next year with a # 51 'Vader' jersey
my old school, faded #5 will suffice
Considine will still be a good player, IMO. I think he will be a STs demon.
Reggie Brown is God.
Matt McCoy will be good.
Josh Parry still farging sucks.
thanks EagleFeva :yay
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 24, 2006, 09:43:13 AM
trent cole is the obvious choice this year...hell be over 10 sacks
He already started last year and showed flashes. 10 sacks over a whole season wouldn't really be a "breakout" (although it would be very, very nice and slightly more than expected).
I would be surprised if Cole gets 10 sacks. I think 7 or 8 is likely in a rotation situation. Hopefully he'll rack em up and he definitely has the potential to do it, but I'm not counting on it.
to me a breakout player is someone you know can play but is going to breakout and take it to another level
mccoy would be a sleeper not a breakout player
jason short is going to break someone's neck on a kickoff this year. chances are it will be his own.
I'd be happy with 7 or 8 sacks from Trent Cole.
But as far as "breakout," How about Mike Patterson? Darren Howard's presence on the outside could work well with Mike Patterson's style of play.
Quote from: contradiktion on March 24, 2006, 12:01:26 PM
But as far as "breakout," How about Mike Patterson? Darren Howard's presence on the outside could work well with Mike Patterson's style of play.
Best first post on this board ever. Patterson rules.