Poll
Question:
Who would you draft at 14
Option 1: Chad Greenway LB
votes: 6
Option 2: Winston Justice OT
votes: 6
Option 3: Lendale White RB
votes: 14
Option 4: Santonio Holmes WR
votes: 1
Option 5: Tamba Hali DE
votes: 2
Option 6: Mathias Kiwanuka DE
votes: 11
Option 7: Broderick Bunkley DT
votes: 4
Option 8: One of the TE's (Pope, Lewis etc)
votes: 3
Option 9: Other
votes: 2
Im just interested in seeing the consensus right now from the current players who keep popping up in the media and on the net. Assuming all are available.
Assuming that NOTHING has been done in FA...
Kiwi, I guess.
Bunckley.
Quote from: EagleFeva on February 02, 2006, 01:04:08 PM
Assuming that NOTHING has been done in FA...
yeah thats pretty much how im looking at it for now. Considering Mike McMahon was last seasons awesome plan.
There is no way to answer this for me.
I WOULD NOT draft Holmes, either of the DEs or any TE. (The DEs are undersized and, while productive, seem to be the kind of DE that we already have. Guys who get sacks in bunches and then disappear for games at a time.)
So that leaves Greenway, Justice or Bunkley.
lendale would be my first choice....but i wouldnt have a huge problem taking any of the others besides hali and whiteway who i do not want at all
edit: i also do not want any of the TE's
demeco ryans is who i really want
Greenway. I keep hearing the draft is deep at the DT position, so i don't think a 1st rounder is necessary.
I dunno. All have shown that there's chinks in the armor lately... tough call. The only ones that I wouldn't want to go for in the 1st is Holmes and the TE's.
Greenway = taller version of Simoneau
Hali or Kiwi = weaker, lighter versions of Kearse
QuoteGreenway = taller version of Simoneau
That doesn't sound all that bad, honestly. Especially since taller also = much heavier in this case. If he can cover anyone and has any speed he could help this pathetic LB group.
Quote from: FFatPatt on February 02, 2006, 01:21:07 PM
Greenway = taller version of Simoneau
how do you figure that, because he's fast and white?
Quote from: rjs246 on February 02, 2006, 01:28:25 PM
QuoteGreenway = taller version of Simoneau
Especially since taller also = much heavier in this case.
Unfortunately not. Greenway's under 250 at 6'4".
I chose Mathias Kiwanuka DE
That's assuming we can't move up to take Mario Williams.
greenway is not that fast....he especially wont be in the nfl...sim was supposedly fast also....remember when he first came here he was a sideline to sideline guy...yet he couldnt even crack the falcons 3-4 line up
If Greenway can play in coverage, run down opponents, and tackle like a real lineman it's a HUGE upgrade over Simoneau. That, and he'll probably add weight in the pros.
Quote from: FFatPatt on February 02, 2006, 01:21:07 PM
Greenway = taller version of Simoneau
Hali or Kiwi = weaker, lighter versions of Kearse
Kiwi is Kearse's size right now. 6'7", 262. (http://bceagles.collegesports.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/kiwanuka_mathias00.html) At least he has a frame to put some more mass on at the next level.
Quote from: EagleFeva on February 02, 2006, 01:38:02 PM
At least he has a frame to put some more mass on.
I've heard that lie before.
Quote from: FFatPatt on February 02, 2006, 01:38:47 PM
Quote from: EagleFeva on February 02, 2006, 01:38:02 PM
At least he has a frame to put some more mass on.
I've heard that lie before.
Got sucked in on one of those penis enlarger ads, huh?
Eddie George?
QuoteUnfortunately not. Greenway's under 250 at 6'4".
You don't think that 240 is much heavier than Simoneau? I'd say its a good 20 pounds bigger.
FYI:
Shawn Barber - 6'2" 240
Carlos Emmons - 6'5" 250
Joey Porter - 6'3" 250
Will Witherspoon - 6'1" 231
Takeo Spikes - 6'2" 242
Julian Peterson - 6'3" 235
weight is irrelevant if you're good.
White. I was all about going D at first before but the more i think about our RB situation and the fact Westy will never, ever make it through a whole season and as impressed as I am with Moats he to can't sustain a full season as the main man.
1. White
2. Justice - need to learn more about him first
really i dont know why everyone wouldnt be for lendale because if andy picks him that would also mean he is changing the way he calls the game and would be moving away from being pass happy slappy
I'm not for lendale. don't get me wrong, he's a hell of a talent. I would rather they focus on defense.
KIWI...or a decent OL
Quoteeally i dont know why everyone wouldnt be for lendale because if andy picks him that would also mean he is changing the way he calls the game and would be moving away from being pass happy slappy
Exactofargingmundo. The statement would mean as much as White's talent.
QuoteI'm not for lendale. don't get me wrong, he's a hell of a talent. I would rather they focus on defense.
This is more along the lines of reality, however.
When do we start the "first BYU player AR picks in the 2006 draft" pool?
Heads up, they have about five players who will probably be drafted.
The Eagles have done a decent job of drafting DEs (aside from Shooty McStomach), so I feel comfortable with them looking for one after the first round.
Just once I'd like to see McNabb have a healthy season, so I went with the OT. Yeah yeah yeah run the ball more Runyan blah blah blah. Keep the QB off his ass for once.
QuoteThe Eagles have done a decent job of drafting DEs (aside from Shooty McStomach), so I feel comfortable with them looking for one after the first round.
Stop smoking crack.
Quote from: rjs246 on February 02, 2006, 02:41:11 PM
QuoteThe Eagles have done a decent job of drafting DEs (aside from Shooty McStomach), so I feel comfortable with them looking for one after the first round.
Stop smoking crack.
I've resorted to glue this new year. I've had some pretty bitchin' visions.
Quote from: rjs246 on February 02, 2006, 02:41:11 PM
QuoteThe Eagles have done a decent job of drafting DEs (aside from Shooty McStomach), so I feel comfortable with them looking for one after the first round.
Stop smoking crack.
stop acting like John Frank and Jamaal Green don't make you think "Hall of Fame".
if raheem brock hadnt demanded so much damn money he would have been a decent pick...friggin gold digger
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 02, 2006, 02:47:15 PM
if raheem brock hadnt demanded so much damn money he would have been a decent pick...friggin gold digger
actually, if sheldon brown hadnt wanted more, they could have fit brock under the rookie cap.
everyone has a different version of the story. and all are true in their own way.
Have the Jets drafted any DEs we can trade for?
everyone has a different version of the story. and all are true in their own way.
the one that is always true is that the eagles front office were morons
Quote from: Wingspan on February 02, 2006, 02:49:07 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 02, 2006, 02:47:15 PM
if raheem brock hadnt demanded so much damn money he would have been a decent pick...friggin gold digger
actually, if sheldon brown hadnt wanted more, they could have fit brock under the rookie cap.
everyone has a different version of the story. and all are true in their own way.
CUT SHELDON!
Just for the record, as of a week ago Kiwi is 6'5" 262, and Greenway is 6'2" 242.
Depends on where you look. i don't know his actual height (i've seen 6'2" - 6'4"), but who really cares? There was a guy named William Thomas who was only 6'2" 225. I just want a LB who isn't 5'8 who doesn't suck.
The fact that Greenway thinks he's better-suited for WIL than SAM and that scouting reports say he tends to run 'around' instead of through scare the living hell out of me. What we REALLY need is to solidify the SAM spot, because Dhani doesn't belong there. We already have 3 candidates minimum for the WIL spot.
Daryn Colledge
Lendale White is my choice, with Holmes being a close second.
However, again, it all depends on who the Eagles sign in free agency. If they sign a receiver, then obviously Holmes isn't on my list. My reasons for picking either of these two is simple. I'm just not a big fan of anyone else you listed. I think Kiwanuka has a big bust lable, and would prefer to sign Abraham or trade up for Williams. As for Greenway, I have to see more from him to prove me wrong. I'd just rather go in a different direction there.
I think Lendale White would give us a very nice balanced rushing attack that is needed to win at the top levels. With Westbrook, White, and Moats we could have a very good rushing attack. Plus White isn't just some throw in. He's quality enough to be a franchise back.
As for Holmes, I'm just a big fan of him. He has speed, pretty good hands, and he's a gamebreaker. Reggie Brown and Holmes would compliment each other nicely for many years to come for McNabb. I like Holmes a lot. I think he'll be a player.
need some more offense for a 5 star player less offense. Id say one of the TEs since we already paid Westbrook booku bucks. Either that or we could trade our #1 for another DE clone of Kearse like Abraham.
Justice
I'm taking LenDale White and I'm not even giving it a second thought.
I think in the Eagles position you don't necessarily take the biggest need first. What I mean is while DE or DT are probably the biggest needs, that doesn't mean you reach at 14 and take Kiwanuka because DE is the biggest need. Unless it's a QB, because that is the one position where we don't have a starting need, you take the best player available at a position you need. RB is a need for sure. It's probably not the biggest need we have, but White is a stud so you have to take him.
For all I know Kiwanuka will turn into the next Reggie White, but from watching him play myself, and reading all the other reports on him, his stock is gradually declining.
Ferguson used him for his own personal chew toy.
Say Ferguson is picked 4th (which he should be) and Kiwi is drafted 14th, considering how badly Ferguson owned him, I'd say the dropoff of talent level between those 10 picks is enormous.
Nope - Kiwi cannot be picked at 14. If the Eagles really want him, then they should trade down and try and pick up a (2) or a high (3) from someone for their troubles.
Kiwi will be there in the early 20's unless he goes Mamula-Phreaky at the combine.
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on February 02, 2006, 08:23:51 PM
Ferguson used him for his own personal chew toy.
Say Ferguson is picked 4th (which he should be) and Kiwi is drafted 14th, considering how badly Ferguson owned him, I'd say the dropoff of talent level between those 10 picks is enormous.
Nope - Kiwi cannot be picked at 14. If the Eagles really want him, then they should trade down and try and pick up a (2) or a high (3) from someone for their troubles.
Kiwi will be there in the early 20's unless he goes Mamula-Phreaky at the combine.
This is exactly my reason for not wanting any part of "Kiwi" at #14.
Did someone say something about drugs? ^-^
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on February 02, 2006, 09:57:36 PM
Quote from: Larry on February 02, 2006, 04:15:39 PM
Daryn Colledge
Not at 14. Are you back on drugs?
It's early February. By April, this guy's stock could be top 10, that's why I don't take these early projections seriously.
colledge no matter how much his stock rises will still be a developmental type player...he has a ton of potential but thats not what the eagles need to do this year
that said he is definitely one of those flavor of the month type players that could be picked higher than he should be...i still cant see him going inside of the 20's tho
isnt he from the north pole?
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on February 02, 2006, 08:23:51 PM
Ferguson used him for his own personal chew toy.
and Daryl Tapp used Ferguson as his chewtoy this year. By the way, Get TAPP. :yay
Tapp would be a great second round pick. I could see Pittsburg grabbing him late first this year.
good call...tapp is 110% a steeler type player....i think they clone players like that in the basement of heinz field
I think they're all robots and they just change the name and numbers on them every few years.
I voted "other".
At this point its really hard to tell what the Eagles need since we haven't seen what holes they fill in FA. There are going to be some great players from 25 - 60. I would trade down and pickup an extra 2nd and maybe more. You can get a good DE/TE/DT/LB prospect in the late first/second as they are deep positions. Its possible there could be a run on WR since its a weak draft and some people will reach, if not there could be some good picks at WR late 2nd/3rd.
I thought Daryll Tapp looked like the best DE I saw at the Senior Bowl. I wasn't that impressed with Hali...it looked to me like his 2 sacks came on a blown assignment and being blocked by a TE. And you won't be sacking NFL QBs with a one handed "love tap", Croyle is the Pinkston of QBs.
I would like to see them pickup another TE in the draft and start running alot of 2 TE sets with two receiving TEs like Smith and Davis/Byrd. That would create alot of mismatch problems for defenses with Westbrook/Brown/"insert FA MR here"/Smith/Davis or Byrd and also give them some beef to run it more.
Something like this through Round3 after trading down a couple times and maybe trading up twice(really depends on who rises and falls):
Daryll Tapp - 2nd round
Claude Wroten - 2nd round
Max Jean-Gilles - 2nd round
Dominique Byrd - 2nd round
Jeremy Trueblood - 3rd Round
Gerris Wilkinson - 3rd Round
Shot in the dark...who knows until FA starts and the combine happens so we see who rises and falls. My point is there are some really good prospects at those postions in the 2nd/3rd. I don't really see anyone available at #14 that excites me so much id rather have them over getting someone like Daryll Tapp or Claude Wroten for free.
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on February 02, 2006, 07:58:44 PM
I'm taking LenDale White and I'm not even giving it a second thought.
ditto
If they draft a TE with any of their first three (existing) picks I am going to strangle all of you. They need a BLOCKING TE. Which they can get in the 4th round or later. They need people for the front 7 on defense and people who can farging block on offense. They've got enough 'matchup problem' 'weapons.' How about they get a masher who knows how to lay a lick on a linebacker for once. This mincy fairy offense shtein is done.
When Andy ends up selecting Christopherson Pawtucket out of Abilene Christian, you fargers are gonna look silllllllllllllllllllllllly!
:-D
You know the rules. Two first names or an Irish last name. So he'll draft Christopherson McPawtucket.
(http://ikevin.net/images/pawtucketpat.gif)
He's gonna be a great linebacker.
He's already got the white thing going for him.
Quote from: rjs246 on February 02, 2006, 01:50:33 PM
QuoteUnfortunately not. Greenway's under 250 at 6'4".
You don't think that 240 is much heavier than Simoneau? I'd say its a good 20 pounds bigger.
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Quote from: rjs246 on February 03, 2006, 08:52:10 PM
If they draft a TE with any of their first three (existing) picks I am going to strangle all of you. They need a BLOCKING TE. Which they can get in the 4th round or later. They need people for the front 7 on defense and people who can farging block on offense. They've got enough 'matchup problem' 'weapons.' How about they get a masher who knows how to lay a lick on a linebacker for once. This mincy fairy offense shtein is done.
Amen my brotha!
Quote from: rjs246 on February 03, 2006, 08:52:10 PM
If they draft a TE with any of their first three (existing) picks I am going to strangle all of you. They need a BLOCKING TE. Which they can get in the 4th round or later. They need people for the front 7 on defense and people who can farging block on offense. They've got enough 'matchup problem' 'weapons.' How about they get a masher who knows how to lay a lick on a linebacker for once. This mincy fairy offense shtein is done.
I think Byrd would be a steal in the 2nd round. Either that or draft the biggest/most athletic OT and convert him.
i like trotter but eagle fans overrate the hell outta him...thats why i would have rather had antonio pierce last year
DE is easily the more important position than LB...just look at what happened to the secondary last year with no pass rush...that said its also much more difficult to fill at #14...kiwanuka and hali both scare the hell outta me...
imo a lot of people are over looking demeco ryans...imo he should be and will be their pick if around at 14...and its looking more and more that he will be there
id bag ryans at 14
then get a younger second tier type DE...someone that will be a definite improvement over kalu...but wont break the bank either...i dont think you can have abraham and kearse for example (actually i wouldnt touch abraham with a ten foot pole anyway...hes heartless and will be stealing whatever money he gets in free agency and what he does get is going to be way high)...two huge money guys at the same position...how about a raheem brock instead and take your chances with kearse...brock...cole...mcdougle...i like kalimba edwards as well
then you could still get witherspoon if you wanted
ryans and witherspoon would overhaul the lb'ers very nicely
Getting Brock back would be high irony. And I love irony.
Ryans should be there at #14, but he's on the smallish and slowish side to cover big, athletic TE's.
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 07, 2006, 08:20:41 AM
i like trotter but eagle fans overrate the hell outta him...
trotter is good vs the run. borderline embarassing vs the pass.
anyone watch the highlight shows for SBXXXIX? they showed a clip of brady et al coming outta the huddle, yelling out 54! 54! 54!
apparently there was a run called on 3rd and short, seeing trotter out in the middle make the pats audible to a pass. 1st down.
however, thats not to say i dont like trotter, and he may be the only guy on defense suited to stop the run. so i will gladly give up his pass defense for the way he plays the run.
Thats why they need a good nickle backer, like Ike was in 2004, to help.
And QBs or C's always shout out the MLB's number, wing. They have to identify the Mike backer for blitz pickup and blocking assignment duties. That's why you always see the C or QB point to the Mike as they set at the line.
Trotter isn't overrated at all. And yeah, thats homertastic of me to say but the guy is a beast.
trotter was more effective than lito shepard at pass coverage last year.
so what are everyones thoughts on McDougle? Is he going to get his chance this year? Is he the starter after a few games? Either way, a rookie is not going to start opposite Kearse.
If McCoy could be effective as EITHER a nickel backer OR WIL in the base 4-3 next year, I'd be thrilled.
If both, I'd jizz myself with glee. That said, we still need a 2nd nickel LB not named Trotter or Simoneau. Also, to free up Trotter from the nickel package, we need a front 4 that doesn't need a guy like Trotter always in the game in order to keep the running game in check. Even so, the defense did much better in previous years when they were relatively soft against the run but very tough to pass on... so they really need to focus on rushing the passer and covering receivers. I think stopping the run should be a low priority, relatively.
This year I think Manneans falls on him in training camp and blows out McDougle's knee.
Quote from: mussa on February 07, 2006, 02:13:30 PM
trotter was more effective than lito shepard at pass coverage last year.
so what are everyones thoughts on McDougle? Is he going to get his chance this year? Is he the starter after a few games? Either way, a rookie is not going to start opposite Kearse.
Cole will probably start at RDE.
But McDougle will have a good season, I think. He's finally healthy and thats something that hasn't happened in his first 3 years.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on February 07, 2006, 02:20:39 PMBut McDougle will have a good season, I think. He's finally healthy and thats something that hasn't happened in his first 3 years.
He's been out of the game so long, I'd be stupefied if he made an impact next year at all. IMHO, he needs a full, injury free year to get back into the game. Let's just say I'm not going to bet anything on his prospects for success.
QuoteHe's been out of the game so long, I'd be stupefied if he made an impact next year at all.
^^^^^
This is the reaction of a reasonable person. How can anyone even begin to expect anything from a dude who hasn't played in forever and wasn't all that good when he did play? I love your passion and optimism and whatnot phreak, but please.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on February 07, 2006, 02:11:44 PM
Thats why they need a good nickle backer, like Ike was in 2004, to help.
And QBs or C's always shout out the MLB's number, wing. They have to identify the Mike backer for blitz pickup and blocking assignment duties. That's why you always see the C or QB point to the Mike as they set at the line.
Trotter isn't overrated at all. And yeah, thats homertastic of me to say but the guy is a beast.
they showed brady on the sideline after saying he went to a pass because it was specifically trotter.
I'll explain why I expect him to be good.
He showed flashes of what he can be in 2004 before the irregular heartbeat and sprained knee hobbled him. It didn't translate into raw numbers but you could see him with a good burst and good discipline on contain. He hasn't been able to be on the field fully healthy for along period of time. In 2003 he was done in during the preseason with the trifecta of leg injuries. even when he got back on the field he wasn't ready. He wasn't fully healthy when he returned in week 11 of 2003 and the fact that he missed a lot of the PS and whatnot caused him to not only be behind but the knee was still a problem.
The only time he was healthy was the early part of 2004 before the irregular heartbeat issue and sprained knee. And in that early part of 2004 I liked what I saw from him. That is why I think he will contribute when given the chance.
Too many people are writing him off. I could understand if he was healthy and not able to contrbute because he sucked but that hasn't been the case.
A perfect comparison:
Derrick Burgess.
2001 - showed flashes and had 6 sacks in part time play
2002 - broken foot
2003 - torn achilles
2004 - separated sternum later on and only had 2.5 sacks in the season
2005 - 16 sacks
2003 - ankle, knee and hip injuries
2004 - irregular heartbeat , sprained knee
2005 - gunshot wound
2006 - ??
Give McDougle a chance on the field and when healthy.
Quote from: Wingspan on February 07, 2006, 02:35:44 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on February 07, 2006, 02:11:44 PM
Thats why they need a good nickle backer, like Ike was in 2004, to help.
And QBs or C's always shout out the MLB's number, wing. They have to identify the Mike backer for blitz pickup and blocking assignment duties. That's why you always see the C or QB point to the Mike as they set at the line.
Trotter isn't overrated at all. And yeah, thats homertastic of me to say but the guy is a beast.
they showed brady on the sideline after saying he went to a pass because it was specifically trotter.
Ah, ok. I thought you were saying because he called his number out. And that is what I said...them identifying the mike backer.
And NE did a good job of keeping him on the field in passing situ's. They couldn't get Ike out there in nickle. When they did have Ike in they ran.
i totally forgot about Trent Cole! HA!
Although I would like to see McDougle out there on rotation
Who's Trent Cole?
From what I saw of McDougle, I don't think he's going to be anything. I liked what I saw of Cole for his first 3 or 4 games, but then he really tailed off. DE is my #1 priority, and I hope Cole isn't the starter next year. I want Abraham, but if he's tagged and the Eagles won't make a trade for him, then they have to try to get up there for Mario Williams.
I have a strange feeling that is who Andy wants too. Maybe it's wishful thinking, and even if he wants him it doesn't mean he can get up there to get him.
Quote from: Philly Forever on February 07, 2006, 04:00:06 PM
From what I saw of McDougle, I don't think he's going to be anything. I liked what I saw of Cole for his first 3 or 4 games, but then he really tailed off. DE is my #1 priority, and I hope Cole isn't the starter next year. I want Abraham, but if he's tagged and the Eagles won't make a trade for him, then they have to try to get up there for Mario Williams.
I have a strange feeling that is who Andy wants too. Maybe it's wishful thinking, and even if he wants him it doesn't mean he can get up there to get him.
#14 is a crap shoot, just look at McDougle and other players drafted in that range. They would be better off trading that pick or maybe a #2 and #5 (Hugh Douglas Trade) to get Abraham.
abraham is a bum...he puts forth minimum effort now...imagine when his pockets get fat
cant be any worse that Jevon "Stinger" Kearse.
Abraham isn't a bum. Just because of that one incident in the playoffs last year everyone thinks he doesn't play hard. He produces sacks and pressure. Isn't that exactly what we need? Maybe he will play lazy with the big bucks, but I don't see any other options. Abraham lazy is better than Kiwanuka.
its not just that one incident...its his overall play...ask any jets fan...he produces but still takes many plays off and wont play with anything worse than a hang nail...he should be getting 15-20 sacks on the regular with the talent he has...last year...in his big contract year he got 10....unacceptable and not worthy of the big bucks...i dont even like kiwanuka and id take my chances with him over abraham
Abraham is lazy. He had that sprained knee and refused to play against SD in the playoffs because it was his contract year.
Quote from: phillywin2k5 on February 07, 2006, 04:36:11 PM
cant be any worse that Jevon "Stinger" Kearse.
LMFAO. He always looks like he's on his death bed with those.
As far as DeMeco, to a certain extent, he looks like a rich man's Keith Adams. But not opulent, more like Keith Adams with a Christmas bonus. If we had a large front four that could suck everyone up, I think he'd be great. He's got a real nose for the ball you can tell, but at 229? Maybe he could make a great WIL, but then we'd have 14 WIL LB's.
We need to solve something about our MLB situation on passing downs. Have a new SAM cover someone, Lewis?, a joker?...something. Otherwise, when push comes to shove a team could just keep Trot in there by going no huddle (NE, Ind., Tam...). Or if he's out keep him out...well you all know that. Freddie Roach could be a possibility. Gets off OL's...not sure how well his coverage skills are, but they can't be much worse then Trot's. If we bring someone in for Nickel - start to groom him for MLB when Trots contract/knees go.
I'd be all about Greenway if I knew he could plow through someone instead of dancing around them at warp speed.
I'm not counting much on McDougle. If he gets 5 sacks and is a 3rd down specialist till he gets back in football shape, then great. It sucks because he looked really good when he was healthy. You could really see the burst he had off the ball. Then he had to get all shot like a moron.
McDougle will never have a bigger highlight than his hit on Eli.
archie manning shot mcdougle
in the library
I strongly hope McDougle comes of age this year. I also strongly wish McMullen does too. DAMN Mc's!
Would it be impolite to aske why McNeill isn't there? Do you guys think he'll go BEFORE 14 or WAY AFTER?
If we end up going O-line, I would love McNeil. I like him more than either Winston.
It's a shame that the only guy suited to play SAM on this defense has been a DE his entire career.
Quote from: pinoyboy2pt0 on February 08, 2006, 08:27:37 AM
Quote from: phillywin2k5 on February 07, 2006, 04:36:11 PM
cant be any worse that Jevon "Stinger" Kearse.
LMFAO. He always looks like he's on his death bed with those.
As far as DeMeco, to a certain extent, he looks like a rich man's Keith Adams. But not opulent, more like Keith Adams with a Christmas bonus. If we had a large front four that could suck everyone up, I think he'd be great. He's got a real nose for the ball you can tell, but at 229? Maybe he could make a great WIL, but then we'd have 14 WIL LB's.
We need to solve something about our MLB situation on passing downs. Have a new SAM cover someone, Lewis?, a joker?...something. Otherwise, when push comes to shove a team could just keep Trot in there by going no huddle (NE, Ind., Tam...). Or if he's out keep him out...well you all know that. Freddie Roach could be a possibility. Gets off OL's...not sure how well his coverage skills are, but they can't be much worse then Trot's. If we bring someone in for Nickel - start to groom him for MLB when Trots contract/knees go.
I'd be all about Greenway if I knew he could plow through someone instead of dancing around them at warp speed.
I'm not counting much on McDougle. If he gets 5 sacks and is a 3rd down specialist till he gets back in football shape, then great. It sucks because he looked really good when he was healthy. You could really see the burst he had off the ball. Then he had to get all shot like a moron.
Think Ike might be cut this year? Resign IKE?
Quote from: pinoyboy2pt0 on February 08, 2006, 08:27:37 AM
I'm not counting much on McDougle... It sucks because he looked really good when he was healthy.
Little selective memory. He never was all that good. Promising maybe.
He looked good, didn't say he was good. But that was promising.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on February 07, 2006, 02:36:53 PM
A perfect comparison:
Derrick Burgess.
2001 - showed flashes and had 6 sacks in part time play
2002 - broken foot
2003 - torn achilles
2004 - separated sternum later on and only had 2.5 sacks in the season
2005 - 16 sacks
2003 - ankle, knee and hip injuries
2004 - irregular heartbeat , sprained knee
2005 - gunshot wound
2006 - ??
Give McDougle a chance on the field and when healthy.
Hardly a perfect comparison, since Burgess is obviously better. McDougle has exactly 2 sacks in 19 games over his entire career..averaging one sack every nine and ahalf games. Burgess had six before the injuries put him on the sideline in his first year--three times what McDougle produced his entire career. In 29 games as an Eagle, Burgess put up 8.5 sacks, for an average of one sack every 3.4 games. Burgess gave the Eagles a hell of a lot better reason to hold out hope than has McDougle. Even then we are all in agreement that the Eagles were wise to let Burgess go, until he exploded in Oakland.
So why keep your hopes up about McDougle?
Quote from: phattymatty on February 08, 2006, 12:06:06 PM
McDougle will never have a bigger highlight than his hit on Eli.
I think so, too.
mcdougle wasnt even that good in college...what makes anyone think he could play at this level
right now:
cole=burgess
mcdougle=jon harris