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Title: I guess Reid was serious about his assistants
Post by: bobbyinlondon on January 13, 2006, 03:41:52 AM
After Childress got hired, he did a Q & A and one of the questions was "Did you talk to Andy Reid about bringing some assistants from Philly with you?"

To which Childress replied, "We've been talking about that the last couple of years. He basically said, 'Find your own.' "


Per the Inquirer this morning:


-- You've probably noticed that none of Andy Reid's assistants followed Brad Childress to Minnesota. That's because Reid told Childress he couldn't have any of them. Since all of them are under contract to the Eagles, Childress would have needed Reid's permission to hire any of them, even for a coordinator's job. Reid lobbied hard the last couple of years to help Childress get a head-coaching job. But he always has made it clear to him - just as then-Packers coach Mike Holmgren did to Reid when he took the Eagles job - that he'd have to shop elsewhere for his assistants. Childress ended up hiring Bucs secondary coach Mike Tomlin as his defensive coordinator and Packers quarterbacks coach Darrell Bevell as his offensive chief. Childress will handle the offensive playcalling.
Title: Re: I guess Reid was serious about his assistants
Post by: MDS on January 13, 2006, 03:46:27 AM
Don't blame him.
Title: Re: I guess Reid was serious about his assistants
Post by: General_Failure on January 13, 2006, 04:08:53 AM
We really lucked out when we didn't lose our WR coach.
Title: Re: I guess Reid was serious about his assistants
Post by: ice grillin you on January 13, 2006, 06:34:24 AM
too bad he didnt bring andy with him
Title: Re: I guess Reid was serious about his assistants
Post by: T_Section224 on January 13, 2006, 07:26:40 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 13, 2006, 06:34:24 AM
too bad he didnt bring andy with him
:-D
Title: Re: I guess Reid was serious about his assistants
Post by: mussa on January 13, 2006, 08:29:35 AM
Quote from: General_Failure on January 13, 2006, 04:08:53 AM
We really lucked out when we didn't lose our WR coach.

u mean our RB coach
Title: Re: I guess Reid was serious about his assistants
Post by: SunMo on January 13, 2006, 08:50:03 AM
nobody was whining about the WR coach last year, weird, he must have done a good job then.  i'm sure it has nothing to do with the talent on the roster.
Title: Re: I guess Reid was serious about his assistants
Post by: MadMarchHare on January 13, 2006, 08:50:05 AM
What does he do?
Title: Re: I guess Reid was serious about his assistants
Post by: Wingspan on January 13, 2006, 09:03:56 AM
maybe no one actually knows where the WR coach is?

g-g-g-g-i-mm-e m-m-my s-s-stapl-l-ler
Title: Re: I guess Reid was serious about his assistants
Post by: MadMarchHare on January 13, 2006, 09:19:08 AM
So we can expect the Novacare Center to be burned to the ground any day now?
Title: Re: I guess Reid was serious about his assistants
Post by: Butchers Bill on January 13, 2006, 10:53:10 AM
Quote from: bobbyinlondon on January 13, 2006, 03:41:52 AM
-- You've probably noticed that none of Andy Reid's assistants followed Brad Childress to Minnesota. That's because Reid told Childress he couldn't have any of them. Since all of them are under contract to the Eagles, Childress would have needed Reid's permission to hire any of them, even for a coordinator's job. Reid lobbied hard the last couple of years to help Childress get a head-coaching job. But he always has made it clear to him - just as then-Packers coach Mike Holmgren did to Reid when he took the Eagles job - that he'd have to shop elsewhere for his assistants. Childress ended up hiring Bucs secondary coach Mike Tomlin as his defensive coordinator and Packers quarterbacks coach Darrell Bevell as his offensive chief. Childress will handle the offensive playcalling.

Great...another thing Andy has in common with Holmgren.  Now if can just get that Super Bowl ring.   :'(
Title: Re: I guess Reid was serious about his assistants
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on January 13, 2006, 11:16:00 AM
It will be interesting to see how Childress calls the plays and find out if he's better or worse at it than Andy.
Title: Re: I guess Reid was serious about his assistants
Post by: rjs246 on January 13, 2006, 11:24:25 AM
I'm guessing better. By a mile.
Title: Re: I guess Reid was serious about his assistants
Post by: ice grillin you on January 13, 2006, 11:29:55 AM
Great...another thing Andy has in common with Holmgren

they also share a penis...holmgrens
Title: Re: I guess Reid was serious about his assistants
Post by: phattymatty on January 13, 2006, 11:49:44 AM
I really doubt Childress remembers how to call a play.
Title: Re: I guess Reid was serious about his assistants
Post by: Wingspan on January 13, 2006, 02:59:19 PM
Quote from: phattymatty on January 13, 2006, 11:49:44 AM
I really doubt Childress remembers how to call a play.

true. i can see minnesota lining up...and then culpepper realizes that no one actually called a play
Title: Re: I guess Reid was serious about his assistants
Post by: General_Failure on January 13, 2006, 03:09:42 PM
Quote from: Sun_Mo on January 13, 2006, 08:50:03 AM
nobody was whining about the WR coach last year, weird, he must have done a good job then.  i'm sure it has nothing to do with the talent on the roster.

As of right now, the Eagles have developed 0 starting quality receivers. Some of the blame has to go to the position coach.
Title: Re: I guess Reid was serious about his assistants
Post by: MURP on January 13, 2006, 03:19:47 PM
link (http://www.philly.com/mld/dailynews/sports/13615908.htm)

QuotePaul Domowitch | Childress: Calling own plays no biggie
by Paul Domowitch

SO MUCH FOR speculation that offensive coordinators who don't call their own plays will have a devil of a time getting an NFL head-coaching job.

Brad Childress, who did very little of the playcalling during his 4 years as Andy Reid's top offensive lieutentant with the Eagles, was gobbled up by the Minnesota Vikings last week. And Broncos offensive coordinator Gary Kubiak, who watched Mike Shanahan call the plays in Denver, is expected to be named the Houston Texans' coach as soon as his team's season is over.

"I think that's really overrated," Childress said this week in a phone interview from the Vikings' suburban Minneapolis headquarters. "I did it for 8 years at the collegiate level at Wisconsin. I did it for 4 years before that at Northern Arizona. That's 12 years right there.

"When you prepare [for a game] at this level, it's all laying in front of you right there. It's not appropriate to go out of the box and pull something that's not on the game-plan sheet. This is such a segmented game now that you've got your calls on third-and-3 or 4, or third-and-short, or inside the 5-yard line. Where the power of choice really comes in is on your normal downs. On your first-and-10s, where you have basically the whole card at your disposal, basically run or pass.

"We all sit and lay it out. We all work on it. We all put it together. What fits and doesn't fit. You know what you want to do situationally. It's just rhythm and the particular mind-set that person [calling the plays] has."

Childress said he actually did a good bit of the playcalling in the second half of the season this year, which partially explains why the Eagles ran the ball a little more down the stretch. In their last seven games, 42.3 percent of their offensive plays were runs, compared with just 23.5 percent in their first nine games. As it is, they still finished with the third most pass attempts in the league (620).

Will his Vikings emphasize the run a little more than Reid's Eagles?

"We're in the black-and-blue division," he said. "We've got to do it some. And the defense has to practice against it a little bit to be decent. So, I'm sure we will."
Title: Re: I guess Reid was serious about his assistants
Post by: Wingspan on January 13, 2006, 03:53:54 PM
QuotePaul Domowitch | Childress: Calling own plays no biggie

Childress said he actually did a good bit of the playcalling in the second half of the season this year, which partially explains why the Eagles ran the ball a little more down the stretch. In their last seven games, 42.3 percent of their offensive plays were runs, compared with just 23.5 percent in their first nine games.


Game : Rushes / Total Plays = %
Game 1: 14/61 = 23%
Game 2: 17/58 = 29%
Game 3: 18/71 = 25%
Game 4: 17/66 = 26%
Game 5: 9/43 = 21%
Game 6: 14/71 = 20%
Game 7: 19/55 = 35%
Game 8: 23/60 = 38%
Game 9: 36/77 = 48%

Total in games 1-9: 167/562 = 30%
30% ? 23.5%

Game 10: 30/69 = 43%
Game 11: 34/64 = 53%
Game 12: 25/68 = 37%
Game 13: 25/63 = 40%
Game 14: 28/60  = 47%
Game 15: 17/57 = 30%
Game 16: 25/71 = 35%

Total in games 10-16: 184/452 = 41%
41% ? 42.3

Domowitchhunter ? spin docter
Title: Re: I guess Reid was serious about his assistants
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on January 13, 2006, 04:02:15 PM
a called pass turns into a run when the QB scrambles
Title: Re: I guess Reid was serious about his assistants
Post by: Wingspan on January 13, 2006, 04:06:33 PM
Quote from: FFatPatt on January 13, 2006, 04:02:15 PM
a called pass turns into a run when the QB scrambles

i doubt domowitch gave it that much thought. plus mcmahon ran more times than mcnabb did, the the latter half obviously, so the run number would be more inflated in the later half.

what domowitch more likely did, was caluclate weeks 1-9, not games 1-9 (bye week moves the 48% game 9 into week 10)
Title: Re: I guess Reid was serious about his assistants
Post by: rjs246 on January 13, 2006, 04:09:16 PM
QuoteGame 5: 9/43 = 21%

Nine rushes.
Title: Re: I guess Reid was serious about his assistants
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on January 13, 2006, 04:11:37 PM
I'm really glad I was unable to watch that game.  Pity that I watched all the other ones.
Title: Re: I guess Reid was serious about his assistants
Post by: MURP on January 18, 2006, 01:14:37 PM
QuoteThe Star Tribune reports the Minnesota Vikings have hired Philadelphia Eagles assistant strength and conditioning coach Tom Kanavy to be their head strength and conditioning coach.
Title: Re: I guess Reid was serious about his assistants
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on January 18, 2006, 01:15:49 PM
Reid must have given a special exemption for that one guy.
Title: Re: I guess Reid was serious about his assistants
Post by: ice grillin you on January 18, 2006, 01:16:10 PM
childress must have been impressed with andrews going from 57 to 55% body fat
Title: Re: I guess Reid was serious about his assistants
Post by: hbionic on January 18, 2006, 01:17:16 PM
 :-D
Title: Re: I guess Reid was serious about his assistants
Post by: Wingspan on January 18, 2006, 01:28:06 PM
Quote from: MURP on January 18, 2006, 01:14:37 PM
QuoteThe Star Tribune reports the Minnesota Vikings have hired Philadelphia Eagles assistant strength and conditioning coach Tom Kanavy to be their head strength and conditioning coach.

looking at the last 5 minutes of the superbowl, and the rash of injuries since...i dont see how this is a bad thing at all. see-ya tommy!
Title: Re: I guess Reid was serious about his assistants
Post by: BigEd76 on January 18, 2006, 02:14:40 PM
Supposedly one of the trainers is also going to Minnesota...
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Post by: qwert246 on January 18, 2006, 04:38:34 PM
Quote from: Wingspan on January 18, 2006, 01:28:06 PM
Quote from: MURP on January 18, 2006, 01:14:37 PM
QuoteThe Star Tribune reports the Minnesota Vikings have hired Philadelphia Eagles assistant strength and conditioning coach Tom Kanavy to be their head strength and conditioning coach.

looking at the last 5 minutes of the superbowl, and the rash of injuries since...i dont see how this is a bad thing at all. see-ya tommy!
Kearse and Pinkston were cramping up due to dehydration in the third quarter.  I thought Dawkins as well, but maybe I'm just remembering an IV from another game.
He should have taken more heat for players not being properly hydrated.
Title: Re: I guess Reid was serious about his assistants
Post by: phattymatty on January 18, 2006, 05:29:46 PM
you're like the little kid on the playground that no one pays attention to yet hangs around anyway pretending he has friends.
Title: Re: I guess Reid was serious about his assistants
Post by: Sgt PSN on January 18, 2006, 05:49:31 PM
Quote from: rjs246 on January 13, 2006, 04:09:16 PM
QuoteGame 5: 9/43 = 21%

Nine rushes.

That's gotta be the @ Dallas game.
Title: Re: I guess Reid was serious about his assistants
Post by: qwert246 on January 18, 2006, 07:51:11 PM
Quote from: phattymatty on January 18, 2006, 05:29:46 PM
you're like the little kid on the playground that no one pays attention to yet hangs around anyway pretending he has friends.
Ohnooooo.  I've been insulted on a message board. 
Farging tool.  The team wasn't prepared to play.  He should have taken heat.
Title: Re: I guess Reid was serious about his assistants
Post by: Geowhizzer on January 18, 2006, 08:53:48 PM
Quote from: qwert246 on January 18, 2006, 07:51:11 PM
Quote from: phattymatty on January 18, 2006, 05:29:46 PM
you're like the little kid on the playground that no one pays attention to yet hangs around anyway pretending he has friends.
Ohnooooo.  I've been insulted on a message board. 
Farging tool.  The team wasn't prepared to play.  He should have taken heat.

You can't blame the guy for Pinkston's cramps.  It was just that "time of the month."
Title: Re: I guess Reid was serious about his assistants
Post by: Sgt PSN on January 18, 2006, 09:02:33 PM
Quote from: Geowhizzer on January 18, 2006, 08:53:48 PM
Quote from: qwert246 on January 18, 2006, 07:51:11 PM
Quote from: phattymatty on January 18, 2006, 05:29:46 PM
you're like the little kid on the playground that no one pays attention to yet hangs around anyway pretending he has friends.
Ohnooooo.  I've been insulted on a message board. 
Farging tool.  The team wasn't prepared to play.  He should have taken heat.

You can't blame the guy for Pinkston's cramps. It was just that "time of the month."

Yes you can.  As the trainer he should have had some Midol with him.