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Title: Eagles 2005 Draft Picks - How they stacked up.
Post by: PhillyPhanInDC on January 04, 2006, 11:31:09 AM
Posted Reggie's stats in another topic, and it seemed useful, so I'll do it with most of the rooks who got some paying time. I'll list the Eagles draft picks by round, and try to give a decent cross section of players drafted near them (minimum of five).

(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y133/Bobberton/PattersonDT.jpg)

(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y133/Bobberton/WRBrown.jpg)


Nothing for McCoy. He played in a total of four games, no recorded defensive stats. I'll try to find something on special teams.


(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y133/Bobberton/RBMoats1.jpg)

There were a butt load of DEs taken before Trent Cole, he was listed as an OLB coming out of the draft. Most of the DEs drafted after the first round didn't get much playing time, so I'll compare Cole to guys that were taken in the first and second rounds. Due to schemes some guys, such as Ware, are listed as playing LBs. They got lumped in.

(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y133/Bobberton/DECole1.jpg)

If you see any mistakes let me know.

Title: Re: Eagles 2005 Draft Picks - How they stacked up.
Post by: phattymatty on January 04, 2006, 11:33:54 AM
man, i thought i had nothing to do at work.
Title: Re: Eagles 2005 Draft Picks - How they stacked up.
Post by: PhillyPhanInDC on January 04, 2006, 11:35:17 AM
Quote from: phattymatty on January 04, 2006, 11:33:54 AM
man, i thought i had nothing to do at work.

The sad thing is that I work for the government, so think of it like this: You pay me to do this shtein. :deion



Actually, I started to fool with it over the weekend to gauge how the Eagles really did in the draft, I was surprised to see given touches and playing time, most of the picks stacked up really nice with players that went much higher in the draft. Christ, just look at what Cole did. He was second in production to Demarcus Ware, who was a beast.
Title: Re: Eagles 2005 Draft Picks - How they stacked up.
Post by: phattymatty on January 04, 2006, 11:37:26 AM
i'm in dc too, and work for a gov't contractor, so i pay you to do nothing so you can contract that out to me.  it's really a marvelous way of running things.
Title: Re: Eagles 2005 Draft Picks - How they stacked up.
Post by: PhillyPhanInDC on January 04, 2006, 11:38:37 AM
I guess I should have you do it and then I could take the credit. Get back to work contractor! These are billable hours!
Title: Re: Eagles 2005 Draft Picks - How they stacked up.
Post by: Diomedes on January 04, 2006, 11:41:51 AM
We should temper our excitement about Reggie Brown with the reminder that he would never have had such good stats if Pink weren't injured and TO weren't kicked to the curb.   He got an artificially high amount of work on account of chance, so it's not exactly comparing apples to apples when you compare his stats against other rookies who got their work without an assist from injury.
Title: Re: Eagles 2005 Draft Picks - How they stacked up.
Post by: MadMarchHare on January 04, 2006, 11:46:17 AM
That being said, Dio, he still took pretty good advantage of that, considering he had Mike McMahon throwing to him in half the games, scared out of his wits by the consistent pass rush allowed by the rookie OL.
Title: Re: Eagles 2005 Draft Picks - How they stacked up.
Post by: Diomedes on January 04, 2006, 11:46:46 AM
Agreed.  The kid looks good.
Title: Re: Eagles 2005 Draft Picks - How they stacked up.
Post by: MURP on January 04, 2006, 11:47:45 AM
good stuff PhillyPhaninDC.   Hadnt really thought about Patterson vs some of the other DT's.
Title: Re: Eagles 2005 Draft Picks - How they stacked up.
Post by: PhillyPhanInDC on January 04, 2006, 11:50:03 AM
Quote from: Diomedes on January 04, 2006, 11:41:51 AM
We should temper our excitement about Reggie Brown with the reminder that he would never have had such good stats if Pink weren't injured and TO weren't kicked to the curb.   He got an artificially high amount of work on account of chance, so it's not exactly comparing apples to apples when you compare his stats against other rookies who got their work without an assist from injury.

I see your point Dio, but I don't really agree. Granted, with TO and Pinky out, Brown was forced to produce. There were no other recieving threats for opposing teams #1 CBs to pay attention to. Going against top-flite starting corners with GLew, Wilbur and McCants, the only other wide-outs, I think it speaks more for Reggie's performance. Alot of the WRs didn't start as the number ones (most didn't finish that way) but they were so highly touted coming out of the draft they most likely recieved at least some upgraded defensive attention in the opposing teams gameplan.

**Edit, didn't add anything about the bum QB tossing him the ball, but MMH nailed that.
Title: Re: Eagles 2005 Draft Picks - How they stacked up.
Post by: dis12 on January 04, 2006, 11:50:16 AM
I particularly like the Microsoft Excel format of the stats.   ...how "Accountant" of you :P
Title: Re: Eagles 2005 Draft Picks - How they stacked up.
Post by: PhillyPhanInDC on January 04, 2006, 11:52:30 AM
Either I couldn't figure it out, or the "table insert" options are farged. Being the constant complainer that I am, I am going to assume it is the latter.
Title: Re: Eagles 2005 Draft Picks - How they stacked up.
Post by: ice grillin you on January 04, 2006, 11:53:35 AM
is there anything less important than nfl stats...especially on the defensive side of the ball

that said patterson brown and cole look to be quality gets
Title: Re: Eagles 2005 Draft Picks - How they stacked up.
Post by: SunMo on January 04, 2006, 11:54:20 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 04, 2006, 11:53:35 AM
is there anything less important than nfl stats...especially on the defensive side of the ball

that said patterson brown and cole look to be quality gets

don't forget about your favorite player, McCoy
Title: Re: Eagles 2005 Draft Picks - How they stacked up.
Post by: QB Eagles on January 04, 2006, 11:54:51 AM
I'm much more optimistic about this group of Eagles rookies than I have been about previous drafts. The results from the 2003 and 2004 drafts aren't looking so good. There was only great pick from the 2001 draft too, and he now plays for the Oakland Raiders.
Title: Re: Eagles 2005 Draft Picks - How they stacked up.
Post by: MURP on January 04, 2006, 11:55:43 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 04, 2006, 11:53:35 AM
is there anything less important than nfl stats...especially on the defensive side of the ball

I dunno, but Dhani and Adams stink and have no stats to speak of.  coincidence.........
Title: Re: Eagles 2005 Draft Picks - How they stacked up.
Post by: ice grillin you on January 04, 2006, 11:57:55 AM
don't forget about your favorite player, McCoy

aj hawk matt mccoy in 06
Title: Re: Eagles 2005 Draft Picks - How they stacked up.
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on January 04, 2006, 12:02:25 PM
As the official sponsor of Mike Patterson, I would like to note that the best is surely yet to come.