Nobody is really talking bad about Jamaal Jackson. Have the Eagles found their new Center? Is Fraley done?
i think i'll call him Alonzo...a co-worker of me keeps calling him that...and now it seems i picked up on it.
If we just kept the same two guys, Fraley and Jackson, I'd rather have Jackson start. Fraley is a good C/G backup. I'd still rather have LeCharles Bentley though.
but yes and yes...i like what alonzo's done in limited time. certianly handles the 3-4 a little better. and there's not as much of a bum rush up the middle since fraley went down
Jackson works for me. Haven't ever really been that impressed with Fraley. Sure he's done an admirable job of starting, but he's nothing spectacular. If Jackson may be better overall. Philly will probably give him an extension to help the cap and let Fraley seek employment elsewhere.
reid doesnt even know how good jaamal jacskon is much less any of us so just stop the madness
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 20, 2005, 05:14:14 PM
reid doesnt even know how good jaamal jacskon is much less any of us so just stop the madness
Well, by your logic, you'd know how good or not good he is before Reid would even know what position he plays.
he's no tito, but he's ok.
Quote from: MURP on December 20, 2005, 04:49:43 PM
Nobody is really talking bad about Jamaal Jackson. Have the Eagles found their new Center? Is Fraley done?
He looks great so far...running game improved a lot when he came in but I am mystified that he gets so many illegal procedure calls when he snaps the ball :boom
He's a big dude.
The more starts the more he learns. He just switched over to C this season and I think he's certainly better physically at blocking. The mental stuff will be learned just like Hank did when Bubba went down.
Well, by your logic, you'd know how good or not good he is before Reid would even know what position he plays.
not true at all...reid knows his team...is as organized as anyone thats ever lived...the guy unfortunately doesnt know how to coach...and im not going to sit on this board and pretend that ive scouted jaamal jackson for the past two games and even if i had theres no possible way i could say whether hes a nfl starting center or not
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 21, 2005, 07:01:29 AM
Well, by your logic, you'd know how good or not good he is before Reid would even know what position he plays.
not true at all...reid knows his team...is as organized as anyone thats ever lived...the guy unfortunately doesnt know how to coach...and im not going to sit on this board and pretend that ive scouted jaamal jackson for the past two games and even if i had theres no possible way i could say whether hes a nfl starting center or not
Well... you understand that scouting and evaluating the starting/backup center is part of the coaching/GM thing that you've already claimed to be better than Reid at, right?
Well... you understand that scouting and evaluating the starting/backup center is part of the coaching/GM thing that you've already claimed to be better than Reid at, right?
very much so and i would be better at it...point is tho even the best talent evaluator cannot judge someone on a few starts
I like him. He's got more size and that is the biggest plus over Hank.
The one thing he needs to work on is staying focused on the snap count. Too many false starts for my liking. And he needs to stay healthy. Get rid of the injury prone tag.
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 21, 2005, 08:05:51 AM
Well... you understand that scouting and evaluating the starting/backup center is part of the coaching/GM thing that you've already claimed to be better than Reid at, right?
very much so and i would be better at it...point is tho even the best talent evaluator cannot judge someone on a few starts
Every year... 32 teams evaluate players' talent based on 0 NFL starts. A few starts is MORE than enough to judge a player's current skill set and what they need to work on. Especially a position like Center where the guy touches the ball every single snap... and you get to see him use his strength, leverage and his brain in determining his line calls.
I can already see that Jackson is a much more physical center than Fraley is. He moves people backwards, which is something Fraley rarely did/does... making him an asset in the running game. The big thing that he needs to work on at this point is like others have already said... his false starts and illegal procedure penalties... which can be fixed. Jackson has the tools to be a quality starter for us. That much can be seen right here and now.
A few starts is MORE than enough to judge a player's current skill set and what they need to work on
timmy smith and bobby hoying say hi
as for jackson i have to assume he is the eagles next center...reid obviously places no emphasis on the position and will just move jackson in over fraley as he did fraley over miller and try to surround him with superior lineman
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 21, 2005, 09:09:16 AM
A few starts is MORE than enough to judge a player's current skill set and what they need to work on
timmy smith and bobby hoying say hi
:-D
Anyone else notice the evolution of IGY's sense of humor over recent weeks?
It's certainly not by intelligent design, so I guess you'd have to call it evolution.
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 21, 2005, 09:09:16 AM
A few starts is MORE than enough to judge a player's current skill set and what they need to work on
timmy smith and bobby hoying say hi
:-D cute.
I wish that AR had waited longer though before locking up Lito, Sheldon and Mike Lewis. That way we could have kept Troy, Bobby and gave Bishop and extension. Those damn kids got all in the way of a really good thing.
Quote from: Diomedes on December 21, 2005, 09:22:01 AM
It's certainly not by intelligent design, so I guess you'd have to call it evolution.
ha, that's witty
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 21, 2005, 08:05:51 AM
very much so and i would be better at it...point is tho even the best talent evaluator cannot judge someone on a few starts
Yet Reid did just that with Herremans
QuoteEven though Herremans suffered the injury, Reid said that there is enough tape on him to evaluate what role they want to see him in next season.
"He played against good enough players to get an idea of what he can do," said Reid. "You have a pretty good idea of what he can handle."
Im fine with JJ. I havent liked Fraley for awhile now. He needs to work on the snap count false starts along with the injury prone tag he has, much like Phreak pointed out.
He isnt as good as pass blocking as Fraley but loads better in the run game, especially a 3-4 defense.
JJ wasn't nearly consistent enough in the starting role. I thought he got badly beaten several times on jumped snap counts. Could that be a QB problem? It probably is. I have coveted Hartings for quite some time now. We really need to solidify several slots on the O-line. If anyone can recall, I was against letting Mayberry walk last off-season(I saw him as a very valuable back-up). We need to sign Tra and Runyan, draft a Center or Guard in the top 15 and sign a top FA o-lineman.
i like him, because he went to college in the best state in the country.
need to see him play with starters before any final assumptions are made but it looks like fraleys out of a job.
you can evaluate raw talent at this point no more.
you also cannot always fix false starts and penalty's through a player if he's a dumb farging retard. hopefully he's not.
Quote from: SimonPinkston9087 on December 28, 2005, 03:21:56 PM
i like him, because he went to college in the best state in the country.
:-D best state :-D
You know what I like. The idea of beating the taterskins with this ridiculously inexperienced and largely awful group of offensive players. That's what I like. I'll worry about whether or not I like Jackson around the draft or possibly in training camp. For right now, the idea of a Mike McMahon-led upset to keep the skins out of the playoffs gives me football wood like I haven't experienced since the last week of January.
If the Eagles win this game I bet ten dollars Lurie turns the whole season into a movie. Not really.