We can all acknowledge that he has lost a step. That being said, can he play WIL? Will that solve one of our inadequacies on Defense?
Hey crackhead - what ever happened to your buddy Stalker?
I'm too busy looking for his replacement.
We let go of Vincent when he lost his step. It's time for Dawk to go. He doesn't even wrap up anymore.
Buddy R brought in an old SS to play WIL and it was a nice fit. Very similar position but pass coverage duties are a little different. Dawk is a real leader and would be sorely missed. He is a tremendous blitzer and could be utilized more in JJ's blitz zscemes.
a 5'10, 200 lb WIL would rule! :yay
You guys are crackheads. Maybe JJ shoudn't put him on an island vs Torry Holt, but Dawk is still a damn fine Safety. You may want look at the young SS who can't cover or tackle lately. IMO ::)
He can't or won't tackle any more. He WAS a damn fine safety, and a great lockerroom presence, but so was Vincent.
Time to move on.
dawk is fine for the one year he has left on his contract...especially so if they get some production from the seven people in front of him
He can't or won't tackle? Wow...
There were a few INTs I wish he'd caught agains the Rams, but other than that, I don't see what you people are whining about.
I honestly hope you all don't want a defense that consistently puts the safeties in a position where they have to make a lot of solo tackles.
sure, Dawkins has missed some big plays this year that he should have made, but this talk of him being done is nonsense.
Year Team G Total Tckl Ast Sacks Int Yds Avg Lg TD Pass Def
1996 Philadelphia Eagles 14 85 63.0 22 1 3 41 13.7 30 0 6
1997 Philadelphia Eagles 15 81 67.0 14 0 3 76 25.3 64 1 8
1998 Philadelphia Eagles 14 57 45.0 12 1 2 39 19.5 30 0 5
1999 Philadelphia Eagles 16 73 52.0 21 1.5 4 127 31.8 67 1 20
2000 Philadelphia Eagles 13 71 54.0 17 2 4 62 15.5 32 0 6
2001 Philadelphia Eagles 15 68 56.0 12 1.5 2 15 7.5 15 0 14
2002 Philadelphia Eagles 16 91 62.0 29 3 2 27 13.5 27 0 9
2003 Philadelphia Eagles 7 35 28.0 7 0.5 1 0 0.0 0 0 5
2004 Philadelphia Eagles 15 69 61.0 8 3 4 40 10.0 32 0 8
2005 Philadelphia Eagles 14 64 55.0 9 3.5 3 24 8.0 24 0 18
TOTAL 139 694 543.0 151 17 28 451 16.1 67 2 99
Dawkins is closing in on a career high in passes defended and has a career high in sacks. He is right on pace with tackles and INT's. I agree that he has blown some plays this year, as has the entire pathetic D. I think having Dawkins 1 on 1 with Torry Holt is just stupid. Holt should win that 9 ouy of 10 times. Dawkins has been put in a position of covering some of the better players the Eagles face and it can make him look very poor when those players score or come up with a big play. I think JJ asks Dawkins to do a lot more than some other D coordinators ask their FS to do, which can sometimes blow up in their faces.
Could you decode that quote? Like all my posts, it appears to be nonsensical.
My problem isn't his play in left field. He's a safety, and shouldn't be covering receivers one-on-one, agreed.
My issue is tackling, he just seems to be going for the hit and not wrapping up this year. Maybe this is what Johnson meant when he said "our new attitude", but I'd rather he wrap up than thump someone.
I agree that his tackling form has been somewhat subpar this season. Personally I think the reason is that he tries to strip the ball most of the time which can lead to ugly looking and missed tackles. On the other hand, Dawkins has 4 forced fumbles this year. Adams, Trotter, Jones, Hood, Lewis, Sheppard and Brown have 5 combined.
Quote from: MURP on December 19, 2005, 12:23:16 PM
sure, Dawkins has missed some big plays this year that he should have made, but this talk of him being done is nonsense.
Year Team G Total Tckl Ast Sacks Int Yds Avg Lg TD Pass Def
1996 Philadelphia Eagles 14 85 63.0 22 1 3 41 13.7 30 0 6
1997 Philadelphia Eagles 15 81 67.0 14 0 3 76 25.3 64 1 8
1998 Philadelphia Eagles 14 57 45.0 12 1 2 39 19.5 30 0 5
1999 Philadelphia Eagles 16 73 52.0 21 1.5 4 127 31.8 67 1 20
2000 Philadelphia Eagles 13 71 54.0 17 2 4 62 15.5 32 0 6
2001 Philadelphia Eagles 15 68 56.0 12 1.5 2 15 7.5 15 0 14
2002 Philadelphia Eagles 16 91 62.0 29 3 2 27 13.5 27 0 9
2003 Philadelphia Eagles 7 35 28.0 7 0.5 1 0 0.0 0 0 5
2004 Philadelphia Eagles 15 69 61.0 8 3 4 40 10.0 32 0 8
2005 Philadelphia Eagles 14 64 55.0 9 3.5 3 24 8.0 24 0 18
TOTAL 139 694 543.0 151 17 28 451 16.1 67 2 99
Dawkins is closing in on a career high in passes defended and has a career high in sacks. He is right on pace with tackles and INT's. I agree that he has blown some plays this year, as has the entire pathetic D. I think having Dawkins 1 on 1 with Torry Holt is just stupid. Holt should win that 9 ouy of 10 times. Dawkins has been put in a position of covering some of the better players the Eagles face and it can make him look very poor when those players score or come up with a big play. I think JJ asks Dawkins to do a lot more than some other D coordinators ask their FS to do, which can sometimes blow up in their faces.
Agreed, he is having a statistically good to great year, but he just doesn't seem to be superman anymore. Watching games with my son, he always panics when teams get in the red-zone, my answer used to be: "Don't worry Dawkins will make a huge play. That doesn't seem to be the case this year. Maybe it's the other guys not funneling like they used to. Maybe it's because he is a 10 year vet and worn down. Maybe Dawk has been hurt and won't admit it.
I'd think about moving Dawkins to SS before LB. Michael Lewis should be a LB.
If that were to be done, we'd have to find a FS with good range to play center field.
Perhaps if he wasn't left alone on an island constantly by having a zesty D in front of him, he might be able to do more.
Y'all are forgetting that little factoid.
Cut him.
What's he scheduled to make next year? If it's really high, I think you'd have to consider it.
It doesn't matter whether by "moving" you mean, to another position or to another team, I wouldn't even begin to think about moving Dawk until after next year. He's not been dominant this year, that's true. But he's still a damn fine safety, and this team has much much bigger problems than his position.Crackhead.
Quote from: MadMarchHare on December 19, 2005, 01:34:31 PM
What's he scheduled to make next year? If it's really high, I think you'd have to consider it.
The following information came from The Internet!! (http://www.geocities.com/eaglescap/Contract-Documentation4.html)
QuoteBrian Dawkins-Dawkins signed a 7 year extension during the 2003 season. Many sources reported the signing bonus to be 8 mil. However, when I try to match that proration up with the salary cap numbers Len Pasquerelli had for Dawkins, it wouldn't match up. When I prorated a 4.5 mil signing bonus over 7 years, it matched up almost exactly, meaning that there was prorable a roster bonus of 3.5 mil. Either way, the final 3 years of the deal were made to void and the prorations from those years therefor accelerated into the 2003 season. His cap numbers are as follows:
2004: $1,648,457 (1 mil base salary+642,857 pro.+5,600 workout bonus; $1,928,571 dead money if cut)
2005: $1,994,017 (1.345 mil base salary+642,857 pro.+6,160 workout bonus; $1,285,714 dead money if cut)
2006: $3,649,017 (3 mil base salary+642,857 pro.+6,160 workout bonus; $642,857 dead money if cut)
Eh, he's pretty cheap, then. He can stay.
Quote from: MURP on December 19, 2005, 12:38:43 PM
I agree that his tackling form has been somewhat subpar this season. Personally I think the reason is that he tries to strip the ball most of the time which can lead to ugly looking and missed tackles. On the other hand, Dawkins has 4 forced fumbles this year. Adams, Trotter, Jones, Hood, Lewis, Sheppard and Brown have 5 combined.
Trying to force a fumble is nice and all, except for when it doesn't work, which is most of the time. You know what would be nice though? Some tackles that make the offense punt once in a while.
wow, its all come down to dawkins bashing now. hes prob been our most consistent defender all year. followed closely by trotter. i don't think hes lost a step at all. its a team sport people. that throw by fitzpatrick was perfect. nobody could of defended that. we better all hope hes around for a few more years.
Bottom Line: Dawkins has missed more plays this year than usual, but he's still damn good.
Replacing him for 2006 would be a bad idea, but finding an eventual replacement would be a great idea.
I think this is the end of JJ's "nasty attitude" era. Between the CBs jumping routes trying to get picks and other players missing the tackle trying to get the strip... It is time to go back to defense with good fundamentals.
Quote from: MadMarchHare on December 19, 2005, 12:29:47 PMMaybe this is what Johnson meant when he said "our new attitude", but I'd rather he wrap up than thump someone.
I think you're on to something there. This year we were supposed to see a lot more emphasis on turnovers, and I'm sure the players were pushed to go for the higher-risk strip than for the sure reward of the textbook tackle. If so, I can't blame Dawkins for that.
Why was this thread started?
WIL? :-D :-D
Dawkins said he wants to play 5 more years. He has 5 more years in him and it better be in Philadelphia.
If Rod Woodson, Troy Vincent and guys like that can hang on forever and play FS so can Dawk.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on December 19, 2005, 04:34:02 PM
Why was this thread started?
WIL? :-D :-D
Dawkins said he wants to play 5 more years. He has 5 more years in him and it better be in Philadelphia.
If Rod Woodson, Troy Vincent and guys like that can hang on forever and play FS so can Dawk.
the only problem with those guys is that they were fast corners who could move to safety when they lost a step or two. Dawkins is a safety who has lost a step this year. but he should be ok for a couple more years.
As long as he is able to play in the box and continue to do what he does, I'm cool with it. He said on the radio this morning that he hasn't had to adjust himself yet so he can make up ground to cover someone. For instance...like have to play deeper sp he can get deep in coverage. He still can do it from his original spot.
And don't forget Woodson had terrible torn up knees and still was a player.
i said the end of last season, and the beginning of this season dawks approaching the end of his career and i got blasted out of the water every time. who cares how long his contract is? if the man can't play anymore he can't play. he looks like garbage alot of the time. i can't count how many times in the last two years he's been punked right before a TD. the stats are meaningless just watch his play. i dont want to see him go but its fairly obvious that the time is approaching. unless he makes an adjustment for next year i think he's gone at the end of next season.
Quote from: L-ong-B-each-I-ggle on December 19, 2005, 05:57:42 PM
i said the end of last season, and the beginning of this season dawks approaching the end of his career and i got blasted out of the water every time. who cares how long his contract is? if the man can't play anymore he can't play. he looks like garbage alot of the time. i can't count how many times in the last two years he's been punked right before a TD. the stats are meaningless just watch his play. i dont want to see him go but its fairly obvious that the time is approaching. unless he makes an adjustment for next year i think he's gone at the end of next season.
You've said a lot of dumb things on this board before, but this one takes the cake.
was simply stating that people are bringing up the length of his contract like that means something in the nfl. if he's too slow and old to keep on the team then he'll be cut. doesn't matter who he is. i didn't say it was this year.. or even next year but probably at the end of next year. again.. if he can't play he can't play. now get off his man package. if you refuse to see he's getting older then thats your problem. some of us live in reality.
takes the cake. quite original.. homer.
I'm a homer because I think Dawkins can still play? Ok. ::)
I don't think he's playing as well as he has, of course not. Although his stats show that he is still playing well.
I do think that there a few things that are contributing to his play this year. One being the zesty defense in front of him, another being the scheme that JJ seems to wants to see more turnovers and its affected his play going for that instead of the wrap.
I'm as big a fan of Dawkins as anyone here but if I have to be honest, he's definitely fallen off this year.
Not a whopping amount, but enough to notice.
Still, even at a slightly diminished skill level, he's still one of the best in the NFL. Like Jay said, he better fricken be here for a long time. He's the heart and soul of that defense, and without him, the Eagles would be much worse for it.
obviously he can still play or he wouldn't be out there. he's still better then another safety we have that will go un named. after next season though i'd say he's officially "old". and again what i was stating before, if the man can't play he can't play. no contract, or resume, or stat sheet, is going to keep him on this team. at least i hope not. i dont want blaine bishop and roy williams back there. i actually agree with some of what you say, oddly enough. next time you feel like trying to make me look idiotic, you can take the extra couple of second and clarify what you mean. bolding one sentence out of a quote hardly does the job.
Can we just agree that you're all retards and close this thread?
Bottom line, this year has shown that a bad overall defensive performance, week in and week out expose alot of each individual defensive player's weakness or flaw...
Last year, Lito seemed like he didn't suck as much. This year, he should have been shot in the mouth.
I think the same is happening to Dawk according to this thread....but he does lose out alot...where I end up 'forgiving him' for getting beat only because he's Darth Dawkins...I seem to yell at everyone else and wish death on them...'cept for Dawk.
Lewis, Dawk, Shep, Brown in some instances, the invisible linebackers, Jevon-no-show, etc...everyone has suffered by our general zesty performances this season. He's still top 5.
Im the biggest Dawk fan out there and he hasnt been as good as some years past, but how many guys on the defense can anyone name who are playing as good or better than they have in the past? Sheldon? The whole defense stinks like crap this year. Dawkins at 80% of his peak is still better than most FS's out there. Another case of you dont know what you have until you lose it.
No seriously. You're all idiots.
Even at Dawk's current skill level, and maybe subpar season... are there 3 FS's out there better than he is?
No? Then what the hell are we talking about?!
I agree that we can look at replacements right now... but Dawkins is still up there with the best at what he does. He's one of the last people we need to be looking at when we talk about fixing this defense.
Shut up shut up SHUT UP!
Cut rjs!
Poor Dline play appears to exposes all DBacks ;)
Are you all arguing that you aren't idiots? Because I feel pretty confident in saying that you're all wrong about that.
Quote from: rjs246 on December 19, 2005, 07:38:29 PM
Are you all arguing that you aren't idiots? Because I feel pretty confident in saying that you're all wrong about that.
:boo :boo :boo :boo :boo :boo :boo :boo :boo..snowball(with battery).. :boo :boo
Wow. That's a lot of thumbs down. Your keyboard stuck?
Quote from: rjs246 on December 19, 2005, 07:38:29 PM
Are you all arguing that you aren't idiots? Because I feel pretty confident in saying that you're all wrong about that.
Longterm exposure to your incendiary comic stylings has left us this way.
WTG, icehole.
Quote from: rjs246 on December 19, 2005, 07:41:38 PM
Wow. That's a lot of thumbs down. Your keyboard stuck?
No..is your pimple sucking business busy at Christmas ???
Quote from: rjs246 on December 19, 2005, 07:38:29 PM
Are you all arguing that you aren't idiots? Because I feel pretty confident in saying that you're all wrong about that.
No, we are arguing about which would be the best way to send you to your timely demise, sucker.
Also, the day that Brian Dawkins leaves the team, for whatever reason, will be one of the saddest days in my life as an Eagles fan.
Quote from: Geowhizzer on December 19, 2005, 08:15:33 PM
Also, the day that Brian Dawkins leaves the team, for whatever reason, will be one of the saddest days in my life as an Eagles fan.
:'( :'( :'(
Quote from: Geowhizzer on December 19, 2005, 08:15:33 PM
Also, the day that Brian Dawkins leaves the team, for whatever reason, will be one of the saddest days in my life as an Eagles fan.
We have a history of good safeties here; Hopkins, Waters, Dawkins, Hauck, Zordich, Bradley. Eventually, they all need to be replaced.
The question seems to be "Can Dawkins play WIL or maybe some hybrid position?" Why the hell not? I think Buddy's safety who converted to WIL was the recently deceased Todd Bell.
Quote from: stalker on December 19, 2005, 08:53:08 PM
Quote from: Geowhizzer on December 19, 2005, 08:15:33 PM
Also, the day that Brian Dawkins leaves the team, for whatever reason, will be one of the saddest days in my life as an Eagles fan.
We have a history of good safeties here; Hopkins, Waters, Dawkins, Hauck, Zordich, Bradley. Eventually, they all need to be replaced.
The question seems to be "Can Dawkins play WIL or maybe some hybrid position?" Why the hell not? I think Buddy's safety who converted to WIL was the recently deceased Todd Bell.
Dawkins converting to will is ridiculous :boo
Quote from: fansince61 on December 19, 2005, 08:56:48 PM
Quote from: stalker on December 19, 2005, 08:53:08 PM
Quote from: Geowhizzer on December 19, 2005, 08:15:33 PM
Also, the day that Brian Dawkins leaves the team, for whatever reason, will be one of the saddest days in my life as an Eagles fan.
We have a history of good safeties here; Hopkins, Waters, Dawkins, Hauck, Zordich, Bradley. Eventually, they all need to be replaced.
The question seems to be "Can Dawkins play WIL or maybe some hybrid position?" Why the hell not? I think Buddy's safety who converted to WIL was the recently deceased Todd Bell.
Dawkins converting to will is ridiculous :boo
I keep reading how ridiculous the move would be but no one will say why they think so. Let's face it; Simoneau plays OLB at 210 lbs. I really don't put alot of credance in most of the program weights. Therefore, I don't find size to be an issue. I think a position could be designed. Then again, what the hell do I know.
Simoneau weighs 245, not 210.
Yeah, and Andrews is 340, Westbrook is 5'10. They never lie with those numbers. Also, Kearse is 250.
Quote from: General_Failure on December 19, 2005, 09:04:34 PM
Yeah, and Andrews is 340, Westbrook is 5'10. They never lie with those numbers. Also, Kearse is 250.
What?
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on December 19, 2005, 09:03:54 PMSimoneau weighs 245, not 210.
And my meatcicle is 10" long.
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on December 19, 2005, 09:06:02 PM
Quote from: General_Failure on December 19, 2005, 09:04:34 PM
Yeah, and Andrews is 340, Westbrook is 5'10. They never lie with those numbers. Also, Kearse is 250.
What?
He is saying that at the best, the program weights are a pack of lies. They make the fat guys thin and the thin guys fat.
By the way, flack jacket or no flack jacket, Donovan is pushing 260.
Yes. I understood. I simply could not believe what I was reading.
:-D
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on December 19, 2005, 09:14:01 PM
Yes. I understood. I simply could not believe what I was reading.
:-D
In reference to what?
For what it's worth..the Eagles no longer put height and weight in their game day program :-D
I asked Spadaro to answer the question regarding Simoneau's current playing weight and this is his response:
QuoteDaveSpadaro Today, 01:56 PM Post #3
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I would guess in the 235-240 range.
Take it for what it's worth.
:)
The entire defense played down this year. hell if we could find a stat on if the defense was on the field more than the offense, that has alot to do with it too. im pretty damn sure these guys were suckig wind all all year long. still its an excuse but once again, this is a team sport. man and i don't know how many times this year we forced a fumble and failed to recover it. :boom
Quote from: mussa on December 20, 2005, 03:15:37 PM
hell if we could find a stat on if the defense was on the field more than the offense, that has alot to do with it too.
yeah, you'd think the nfl would keep a time of possesion stat.
if we need to be bitching about individual players, i think we can start with our offense. they deserve a big stink palm for this year.
Quote from: mussa on December 20, 2005, 03:15:37 PM
The entire defense played down this year. hell if we could find a stat on if the defense was on the field more than the offense, that has alot to do with it too. im pretty damn sure these guys were suckig wind all all year long. still its an excuse but once again, this is a team sport. man and i don't know how many times this year we forced a fumble and failed to recover it. :boom
The blocked field goal recovery and run-back for touchdown sealed their fate in terms of lucky bounces.
Quote from: rjs246 on December 19, 2005, 06:27:01 PM
Can we just agree that you're all retards and close this thread?
If we did that here, we'd have to close 'em all.
Asking Spads if the listed weight is real is like writing in to Pravda to ask if Stalin is really a nice guy in person.
Quote from: QB Eagles on December 20, 2005, 07:41:29 PM
Asking Spads if the listed weight is real is like writing in to Pravda to ask if Stalin is really a nice guy in person.
That would depend if you ask the pre-Khrustjov-speech or post-Khrustjov-speech Pravda. ;)
Since Eckel is ripped often it should be pointed out that he had a good piece on BDawk yesterday
QuoteB-Dawk should get Pro Bowl nod
Tuesday, December 20, 2005
By MARK ECKEL
Tomorrow, the NFL will announce its Pro Bowl rosters, and Eagles safety Brian Dawkins may feel like the Lone Ranger.
Dawkins, who has been to four Pro Bowls in his brilliant career, including last year's when he went with nine other teammates, may very well be alone wearing midnight green this year.
In the most disappointing Eagles season since - well, in the most disappointing Eagles season ever - Dawkins will likely be the team's only representative in the postseason affair held across the water in Hawaii
There is some sentiment for middle linebacker Jeremiah Trotter, a three-time selection, but that would be an upset.
Trotter has had a good year, but not as good as Chicago's Brian Urlacher, who is a candidate for Defensive Player of the Year, and not as good as the Giants' Antonio Pierce, who, although injured now, kept that Giants defense intact through the first 13 games of the season. You can add Carolina's Dan Morgan and Atlanta's Keith Brooking to the mix of NFC middle linebackers, as well.
Dawkins doesn't have it as rough.
Minnesota's Darren Sharper will get one of the three nods at safety, because he leads the league in interceptions. But Sharper isn't and never was as good as Dawkins.
Despite cries from some of the uninformed "fans" out there that he has a lost a step or isn't the player he was a few years ago, Dawkins is still the best safety in the NFC.
"He can play for us," one NFC personnel man, who has seen the Eagles more than a few times, said. "Lost a step? I wouldn't say that. I think that defense has lost something. They just can't generate any pressure, and that has affected his play because they are asking him to do a lot of different things."
Dawkins, who has seen his role change often from his rookie year of 1996 under then-defensive coordinator Emmitt Thomas, brings that versatility to the game that makes him so special.
Under Thomas, in a read-and-react style of play, Dawkins was used almost as a third cornerback. For that matter, he actually played nickel back at times and was as good in coverage as some corners.
When Jim Johnson arrived with head coach Andy Reid in 1999, Johnson looked at Dawkins and saw a safety who could blitz and wreak havoc on an offense.
So he turned him loose and a good cover safety, who played center field at Veterans Stadium better than anyone since Garry Maddox, became B-Dawk. He got bigger, stronger and almost started to resemble the comic book heroes he likes so much.
Now, over the past two years, Dawkins has gone back to covering more and blitzing less, although his 3 1/2 sacks rank third on the team, and his three interceptions rank first.
"All I know is when we play them," the scout said, "the guy you look for is No. 20. He's the guy your quarterback has to be aware of at all times. I mean, you worry about Trotter, but there are things you can do against him. Dawkins is the guy. In my opinion, he's their best player."
This has not been a good year for the Eagles defense. It's been the least effective of Johnson's seven years in charge and it starts with a front four which has been miserable all season.
Sunday, in the 17-16 win over the Rams, the line was sub-par again. St. Louis ranks in the bottom third of the league in sacks allowed, and the Eagles had none against rookie quarterback Ryan Fitzpatrick.
The only pressure the Eagles got came when dime back Matt Ware came on a blitz and forced Fitzpatrick to throw a short completion that did not result in a first down.
That's why Jevon Kearse, nor anyone else from the Eagles' line, will be going to Hawaii. Former Eagle Derrick Burgess and his league-leading 14 sacks, which is more than all the Eagles ends combined and just four less than the entire line, will be there.
So will Dawkins, who came up with the team's only turnover Sunday, when he intercepted a Fitzpatrick pass and returned it into Rams territory to set up the winning touchdown.
Eckle didn't write that. It made sense and wasn't preachy or complacent.
QuoteDerrick Burgess and his league-leading 14 sacks, which is more than all the Eagles ends combined and just four less than the entire line, will be there.
:o Damn, I didn't realize he had that many sacks this year. I knew he had quite a few but I didn't think it was that many.
thanks Dawkins :yay
Quote from: mussa on December 20, 2005, 03:15:37 PM
The entire defense played down this year. hell if we could find a stat on if the defense was on the field more than the offense, that has alot to do with it too. im pretty damn sure these guys were suckig wind all all year long. still its an excuse but once again, this is a team sport. man and i don't know how many times this year we forced a fumble and failed to recover it. :boom
At least half of the blame for the time of ps stat has to be placed on the D. They can't get off the farging field.
Quote from: QB Eagles on December 20, 2005, 07:41:29 PM
Asking Spads if the listed weight is real is like writing in to Pravda to ask if Stalin is really a nice guy in person.
I guess the term "take it for what it's worth" is foreign to you.
:deion
Oh, and by the way, he confirmed that it
wasn't accurate at 245. ;)
Quote from: QB Eagles on December 20, 2005, 07:41:29 PM
Asking Spads if the listed weight is real is like writing in to Pravda to ask if Stalin is really a nice guy in person.
Pravda means Truth.
Since Eckel is ripped often it should be pointed out that he had a good piece on BDawk yesterday
eckel is only ripped when he writes negative pieces on the birds
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 21, 2005, 04:44:07 PM
Since Eckel is ripped often it should be pointed out that he had a good piece on BDawk yesterday
eckel is only ripped when he writes negative pieces on the birds
nope, it's a positive peice, and he still is wrong. the guy is a farging hack.
I'll rip him when he writes something positive about Trotter.
Quote from: QB Eagles on December 20, 2005, 07:41:29 PM
Asking Spads if the listed weight is real is like writing in to Pravda to ask if Stalin is really a nice guy in person.
And we should all wish him a happy birthday. (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051221/ap_on_re_eu/russia_stalin_s_birthday)
Dawkins has lost a step, but his lost step puts him right in line with most veteran safeties in the league. The only reason you notice it is because of the no pressure wussies on the D-Line. Have some class for Gods sake. He plays out the contract and retires an Eagle.
I reiterate - everyone talks about him losing a step. I don't agree with that assessment, and that is supported by the stats MURP dug up. My problem is this bullshtein tackling technique where you hit the guy really hard and don't wrap up. He's gotten burned on it several times. I can't remember which game it was, but he was the last line of defense on a running play, he tried to bring the lumber and didn't knock the guy over. Big run for the TD.
More turnovers is nice, but goddamn it you can't ignore basic fundamentals. JJ's defense was always about preventing the big play. You do that by sound tackling and proper scheme.
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 21, 2005, 04:44:07 PM
Since Eckel is ripped often it should be pointed out that he had a good piece on BDawk yesterday
eckel is only ripped when he writes negative pieces on the birds
Wrong. Eckel is still a piece of shtein. Everything he writes should be ripped. farg him.
Nice assessment, IGY...way to be wrong. Again.
Quote from: MadMarchHare on December 22, 2005, 09:09:12 AM
I reiterate - everyone talks about him losing a step. I don't agree with that assessment, and that is supported by the stats MURP dug up. My problem is this bullshtein tackling technique where you hit the guy really hard and don't wrap up. He's gotten burned on it several times. I can't remember which game it was, but he was the last line of defense on a running play, he tried to bring the lumber and didn't knock the guy over. Big run for the TD.
More turnovers is nice, but goddamn it you can't ignore basic fundamentals. JJ's defense was always about preventing the big play. You do that by sound tackling and proper scheme.
Yea it was Gado, on Green Bay. He totally got run over, but the first 5 defenders on the defense missed also. Play should of never gotten to Dawkins.
Ouch, he got run over by a 5'8" guy who couldn't start at Liberty?!
Struth, it's worse than I thought.
But as mussa kinldy pointed out, it's okay that he got punked because everyone else on the defense sucks.
He may be a bit slower then normal and possibly not as strong as shown by some hits he took this year on a tackle, but he is still clutch.
Maybe this offseason he will take some time off, relax, let the body heal, and learn to adjust his game. He can still play at a high level.