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Title: Matt Ware To Safety? Dawks Eventual Replacement?
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on December 13, 2005, 01:51:05 AM
From Spads;

QuoteThe Eagles were pleased with the play of Donald Strickland as the third cornerback, and he'll likely stay in that role. Matt Ware? He's still the dime corner, but he's being used as a linebacker and it makes me wonder if he is earmarked for safety at some point in his career

I also liked what Strickland did yesterday. Other than that one jump ball that Plax beat him on I thought he played pretty solid. He stepped in and played better at CB than Dexter Wynn or Matt Ware have done here in two years which isn't excatly a good thing.

But the Ware-to-safety thing intrigues me. I saw them using him at safety quite a bit in TC and I think we discussed that possibility before.

But after seeing him not make strides as a CB I think there is more validity to the position switch talk than before. The one thing about Ware I like is that he hits people so he would be able to lay the lumber no problem

And Spads usually floats stuff like this when he has a tip from the staff.

So what are your thoughts on him moving and maybe even eventually being Dawkins' replacement at FS?
Title: Re: Matt Ware To Safety? Dawks Eventual Replacement?
Post by: General_Failure on December 13, 2005, 01:55:39 AM
Sit Dawk now and see if the kid can do it.
Title: Re: Matt Ware To Safety? Dawks Eventual Replacement?
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on December 13, 2005, 02:00:47 AM
I wouldn't sit Dawk now, but I would make the switch in the off-season and have him start 2006 fresh as a safety. That way they have their FS backup already and can concentrate on adding CB depth.

Sheppard
Brown
Hood (will he be back? He's a RFA and could get offers since he was a UDFA and would require no compensation to sign)
Strickland (if re-signed)
Wynn

If Wynn is cut (and he should be), if Ware goes to safety, if Hood is lured away and if Strickland isn't re-signed then that leaves Tito and Brown as our only CBs.
Title: Re: Matt Ware To Safety? Dawks Eventual Replacement?
Post by: General_Failure on December 13, 2005, 02:08:28 AM
Roderick really needs to get a new deal. Three years, preferably. By that time we'll be sick of him and be well in to screaming for him to be gone.
Title: Re: Matt Ware To Safety? Dawks Eventual Replacement?
Post by: Don Ho on December 13, 2005, 02:09:46 AM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on December 13, 2005, 02:00:47 AM
I wouldn't sit Dawk now, but I would make the switch in the off-season and have him start 2006 fresh as a safety. That way they have their FS backup already and can concentrate on adding CB depth.

Sheppard
Brown
Hood (will he be back? He's a RFA and could get offers since he was a UDFA and would require no compensation to sign)
Strickland (if re-signed)
Wynn

If Wynn is cut (and he should be), if Ware goes to safety, if Hood is lured away and if Strickland isn't re-signed then that leaves Tito and Brown as our only CBs.

Which means we draft a CB. :boom
Title: Re: Matt Ware To Safety? Dawks Eventual Replacement?
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on December 13, 2005, 02:32:52 AM
They need to look at a CB anyways.

If Ware stays at CB then I am underwhelmed by him there. Plus Wynn stinks as a CB. So that would leave us with Sheppard, Brown, Hood and Strickland if the latter two are brought back.
Title: Re: Matt Ware To Safety? Dawks Eventual Replacement?
Post by: Don Ho on December 13, 2005, 02:45:32 AM
There are a couple of big corners in the draft:

Jimmy Williams Va Tech 6-3 216

Michael Huff Texas 6-1 205

Williams is probably a top 10 pick but might still be there.  Good thing is there will be a bunch of top tier CB's available in round 2.
Title: Re: Matt Ware To Safety? Dawks Eventual Replacement?
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on December 13, 2005, 02:52:44 AM
I'd like either one of those guys. Huff is like Ware in the sense that he's a S/CB guy.

But where they'll go is, like you said, pretty high and that is where I want a stud DE like Kiwanuka or Williams.
Title: Re: Matt Ware To Safety? Dawks Eventual Replacement?
Post by: SunMo on December 13, 2005, 08:43:14 AM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on December 13, 2005, 02:00:47 AM

Hood (will he be back? He's a RFA and could get offers since he was a UDFA and would require no compensation to sign)


that's only if they tender him the lowest possible one, correct?  they could tender him the middle one and that would require a 1st round pick if they really wanted to keep him.
Title: Re: Matt Ware To Safety? Dawks Eventual Replacement?
Post by: MURP on December 13, 2005, 08:53:04 AM
moving Ware to safety is a last ditch attempt to salvage him from being another bust draft pick. 
Title: Re: Matt Ware To Safety? Dawks Eventual Replacement?
Post by: bobbyinlondon on December 13, 2005, 08:55:26 AM
Quote from: Sun_Mo on December 13, 2005, 08:43:14 AM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on December 13, 2005, 02:00:47 AM

Hood (will he be back? He's a RFA and could get offers since he was a UDFA and would require no compensation to sign)


that's only if they tender him the lowest possible one, correct?  they could tender him the middle one and that would require a 1st round pick if they really wanted to keep him.

Correct, or they could trade him for less than a 1st--but NO LOWER than a 3rd.
Title: Re: Matt Ware To Safety? Dawks Eventual Replacement?
Post by: ice grillin you on December 13, 2005, 08:57:28 AM
moving Ware to safety is a last ditch attempt to salvage him from being another bust draft pick

beat me to it
Title: Re: Matt Ware To Safety? Dawks Eventual Replacement?
Post by: Larry on December 13, 2005, 09:01:09 AM
He should've been playing safety from the very beginning.  He's a tall, rangy guy (with outfielder skills via baseball), who doesn't have a lot of change-of-direction quickness--seems like a better fit at S than CB to me.
Title: Re: Matt Ware To Safety? Dawks Eventual Replacement?
Post by: ice grillin you on December 13, 2005, 09:12:28 AM
hes to wirey and plays football like jon koncack played basketball to play safety...ware was a tweener from the jump and shouldnt have been drafted in the first place...slow and soft is no way to go thru life
Title: Re: Matt Ware To Safety? Dawks Eventual Replacement?
Post by: Feva on December 13, 2005, 09:55:08 AM
But you manage it so well.
Title: Re: Matt Ware To Safety? Dawks Eventual Replacement?
Post by: pinoyboy2pt0 on December 13, 2005, 01:38:38 PM
Ware has had such a bad D season, I actually wonder where his coverage skills are vs M. Lewis.  Seems like at times JJ just wants MW to just cover the TE...no special reads or anything, just man to man, and he can't do that.  Who knows with him.  Does he have horrible COD?  Is it a mental thing?  Positioning?  He's still an unknown to me, and apparently to the coaches as well.  That said, maybe he can work in at S - I think he's better suited there than CB, especially the way smaller, quicker WR's may be the 'new' trend, and he can't keep up with that.  Maybe even some as a Nickel LB.  I remember JJ saying earlier that he could put him in a hybird type role in a package for him.
Title: Re: Matt Ware To Safety? Dawks Eventual Replacement?
Post by: FreakisaKearseWord on December 13, 2005, 07:39:10 PM
Why would they replace Dawkins? Gods never get old.   :paranoid
Title: Re: Matt Ware To Safety? Dawks Eventual Replacement?
Post by: General_Failure on December 13, 2005, 07:53:21 PM
Guess what. We're already past got.
Title: Re: Matt Ware To Safety? Dawks Eventual Replacement?
Post by: Rome on December 13, 2005, 10:04:44 PM
Watching Burress & Toomer tower over the midgets they had in there on Sunday (other than Sheldon, of course) made me ill.

Draft a couple of corners with some size, already.
Title: Re: Matt Ware To Safety? Dawks Eventual Replacement?
Post by: ice grillin you on December 14, 2005, 07:49:54 AM
size wouldnt be a factor if the wr's didnt have time to get down field camp out for a couple minutes then leap straight up for a ball

the secondary is fine...even michael lewis doesnt look so slow when the front seven is getting pressure
Title: Re: Matt Ware To Safety? Dawks Eventual Replacement?
Post by: SunMo on December 14, 2005, 09:32:01 AM
they definitely need front 7 help in the offseason, it should be the biggest priority.  followed by a WR.
Title: Re: Matt Ware To Safety? Dawks Eventual Replacement?
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on December 14, 2005, 09:45:14 AM
Kearse will still be around, for many reasons, in 2006.  Cole will be the other starter at DE.  They will try to convince us that McDougle can be the 3rd guy in the rotation.  Kalu's contract is up and he won't be back.  So, they might draft someone here, possibly even early, but I would be shocked to see a FA brought in, since the starters are set.

Trotter will still be starting at MLB, but Adams will not likely be back, and Jones and/or Simoneau could easily be cut loose before next season also.  I think the team will look to bring in someone to "compete" with McCoy for the WIL spot, and they will open competition for the SAM spot.  We should have two new starters there.

DT could see a big overhaul too.  Hollis is cheap next year, but if he even utters one word about his deal, no reason to keep him around.  Walker has three years left on his deal, but the price could be right to trade him away.  Rayburn's cheap and will probably be kept around in the rotation.  I think the Eagles might look to add a new starter here, though.  Plus, we can hope Mikey P. focuses on conditioning this off-season and provides a spark.  He's having a good rookie season, but he needs to take the next step.

I think the secondary could benefit from some new defensive scheming and an improved front seven.  The starters should all be back for at least one more year.
Title: Re: Matt Ware To Safety? Dawks Eventual Replacement?
Post by: Eaglez on December 14, 2005, 05:37:48 PM
Matt Ware is just saving his talent for the AFL. That's what he told me anyways.

After the way Roderick has filled in for Lito, who exactly would be willing to offer him big bucks and 'lure' him away in FA.

If some dumbass team is willing to offer him a ton of loot to be their starting CB, then by all means take him away and give us a compensatory pick.