ConcreteBoard

Eagles => Eagles Talk => Topic started by: MURP on December 09, 2005, 11:13:33 AM

Title: Rayburn/Patterson to start
Post by: MURP on December 09, 2005, 11:13:33 AM
from Philly Inquirer:

QuoteSam Rayburn and rookie Mike Patterson apparently are going to start ahead of veterans Hollis Thomas and Darwin Walker at defensive tackle Sunday, but defensive coordinator Jim Johnson will still stick with a four-man rotation at the position


read anything into that?  or think nothing of it?
Title: Re: Rayburn/Patterson to start
Post by: SunMo on December 09, 2005, 11:15:10 AM
maybe they are going to try to evaluate all their young players to see what they have for next year?  almost like the preseason and they will get more time on the field if they are starting.
Title: Re: Rayburn/Patterson to start
Post by: bobbyinlondon on December 09, 2005, 11:18:12 AM
Do you think that JJ views Rayburn and Patterson more pass-rushers than run-stoppers? Last season, Rayburn had what, 6 1/2 sacks? He can play the run as well,, but it would seem his value is as a pass rusher.
Title: Re: Rayburn/Patterson to start
Post by: ice grillin you on December 09, 2005, 11:25:03 AM
unless the number of snaps they get are significantly higher i would read nothing into it
Title: Re: Rayburn/Patterson to start
Post by: Tomahawk on December 09, 2005, 11:25:53 AM
Quote from: MURP on December 09, 2005, 11:13:33 AM
from Philly Inquirer:

QuoteSam Rayburn and rookie Mike Patterson apparently are going to start ahead of veterans Hollis Thomas and Darwin Walker at defensive tackle Sunday, but defensive coordinator Jim Johnson will still stick with a four-man rotation at the position


read anything into that?  or think nothing of it?

I read the same thing as last year when Simon and Walker were benched because their production was not at a professional level.
Title: Re: Rayburn/Patterson to start
Post by: Diomedes on December 09, 2005, 12:06:07 PM
I'm with Mo.  JJ is just mixing things up a bit to get a look at guys.  These games are strictly about auditions for jobs next year.
Title: Re: Rayburn/Patterson to start
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on December 09, 2005, 12:23:25 PM
I think he's giving the bulk of the time to Rayburn and my man, Mikey P, because their contributions down the line are more unknown right now.  I think you'll still see Hollis and Darwin get decent snaps, but about as many as Rayburn and Patterson were getting, which is a little less.
Title: Re: Rayburn/Patterson to start
Post by: Diomedes on December 09, 2005, 12:26:33 PM
Patterson has filled in nicely for Simon.  Go ahead and disagree if you must.
Title: Re: Rayburn/Patterson to start
Post by: fansince61 on December 09, 2005, 12:28:49 PM
Quote from: MURP on December 09, 2005, 11:13:33 AM
from Philly Inquirer:

QuoteSam Rayburn and rookie Mike Patterson apparently are going to start ahead of veterans Hollis Thomas and Darwin Walker at defensive tackle Sunday, but defensive coordinator Jim Johnson will still stick with a four-man rotation at the position


read anything into that?  or think nothing of it?

Somebody is trying to lite a fire under Thomas and Walker :yay
Title: Re: Rayburn/Patterson to start
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on December 09, 2005, 12:34:01 PM
Hollis Thomas is unlikely to be playing for the Eagles next year, IMO.  Patterson is almost sure to be a starter after a full off-season of NFL-level study and conditioning, and the Eagles are probably trying to see what kind of contribution they can expect from Rayburn.

I wouldn't be surprised if Walker or Rayburn were left off the roster next year, either.
Title: Re: Rayburn/Patterson to start
Post by: Eaglez on December 09, 2005, 09:15:25 PM
I say that Walker has a home in the rotation next season, but that Rayburn and Thomas are on the way out.

With Darwin's strength at least he can get some penetration and push the line of scrimmage backwards. Hollis is just a fat blob who just looks like he's walking in place most of the time.
Title: Re: Rayburn/Patterson to start
Post by: Diomedes on December 10, 2005, 02:07:50 AM
This is the Eagles we're talking about.  If Rayburn doesn't completely shtein the bed in the next few weeks, he's going to make the team based solely on the fact that he's inexpensive.
Title: Re: Rayburn/Patterson to start
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on December 10, 2005, 08:23:50 AM
Big Red says:

QuoteReid said that the starters may get five to 10 more plays but added that this has nothing to do with preparing for next year.

"I'm not looking at the future there because, at that position, all four of those guys are going to be back and play for us," Reid said.

So it appears that Hollis is not on his way out. He is cheap next year ($795K cap hit) and he's likely getting a lot of bonuses this year because of playing time.
Title: Re: Rayburn/Patterson to start
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on December 10, 2005, 08:47:05 AM
Right, because Reid would never mislead the media.  He always tips us off to his plans.
Title: Re: Rayburn/Patterson to start
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on December 10, 2005, 09:20:54 AM
Not saying he is Mr. Honesty all the time. But if you can recall a time when he straight up said a guy(s) would be here publicly then I'll concede the point. Most of the time its "I'm not gonna get into all that..." or "we'll see how it works out".

He could've stopped at the fact that they were starting over Walker and Hollis but he went on to say they'd be here.
Title: Re: Rayburn/Patterson to start
Post by: Rome on December 10, 2005, 10:00:58 AM
They have to upgrade the DT rotation.

This is madness.  Madness, I say!

:paranoid
Title: Re: Rayburn/Patterson to start
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on December 12, 2005, 02:25:03 PM
From Lenny P.;

QuoteThe Eagles switched starting defensive tackles this week, going with youngsters Sam Rayburn and Mike Patterson, and part of the reason is that the staff is really down on Darwin Walker. The veteran could be offered around the league in trade talks during the offseason.
Title: Re: Rayburn/Patterson to start
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on December 12, 2005, 02:27:29 PM
Starting front seven next year will have at least 3-4 new guys.  Plus, the rotation/backups should be a lot different too.
Title: Re: Rayburn/Patterson to start
Post by: MDS on December 12, 2005, 02:31:30 PM
get andy harmon back in here
Title: Re: Rayburn/Patterson to start
Post by: Mad-Lad on December 12, 2005, 02:38:54 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on December 12, 2005, 02:25:03 PM
From Lenny P.;

QuoteThe Eagles switched starting defensive tackles this week, going with youngsters Sam Rayburn and Mike Patterson, and part of the reason is that the staff is really down on Darwin Walker. The veteran could be offered around the league in trade talks during the offseason.

send him back to the Cards for a 3rd rounder.   :-D
Title: Re: Rayburn/Patterson to start
Post by: Wingspan on December 12, 2005, 02:42:20 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on December 10, 2005, 09:20:54 AM
Not saying he is Mr. Honesty all the time. But if you can recall a time when he straight up said a guy(s) would be here publicly then I'll concede the point. Most of the time its "I'm not gonna get into all that..." or "we'll see how it works out".

He could've stopped at the fact that they were starting over Walker and Hollis but he went on to say they'd be here.

terrell owens :-X
Title: Re: Rayburn/Patterson to start
Post by: General_Failure on December 12, 2005, 03:17:16 PM
Quote from: FFatPatt on December 12, 2005, 02:27:29 PM
Starting front seven next year will have at least 3-4 new guys.  Plus, the rotation/backups should be a lot different too.

The front seven should have 3 or 4 new guys next year. I'm willing to bet we're stuck with the same linebackers and a new starting DT.