There were reports out there that the Bills had suspended Eric Moulds because he blasted Mike Mularkey on the sidelines in Miami on Sunday for the piss poor playcalling (or was it because Lee Evans had 3 TDs and Moulds had nothing?).
Now they're saying that Moulds has not been suspended but he will be TO'd on Sunday after being "excused" from practice on Wednesday and Thursday.
QuoteMULARKEY SAYS NO SUSPENSION OF MOULDS
Bills coach Mike Mularkey denies that he has suspended receiver Eric Moulds.
But something clearly is up.
Mularkey acknowledged that Moulds has been excused from practice on Wednesday and Thursday. ESPN's Chris Mortensen reports that Moulds is expected to meet with Mularkey and owner Ralph Wilson on Thursday, and that Moulds will be on the inactive list for Sunday's game against New England.
"It's crazy. It's a lot of chaos," running back Willis McGahee said. "You don't know what to expect right now at this point."
Our guess is that someone with ability to, you know, read and comprehend English realized that the Terrell Owens arbitration ruling is not a blank check to suspend without pay any player who pisses off the head coach during a given game. The Owens suspension was upheld because of the unique nature of the situation; in Moulds' case, there's no reason to believe that he has been a chronic problem.
Regardless of Moulds' immediate future, these events don't bode well for his long-term status with the team. His salary is set to quadruple in 2006, from $1.5 million to $6.08 million. In 2007, he's set to make $7.25 million.
Then again, if there's a new G.M. and/or head coach in Buffalo come 2006, the attitude towards Moulds could change.
This, along with his contract, is a good indicator that he will be cut loose in the off-season. So those of us who are hoping to see Moulds come to Philadelphia could be happy.
The Eagles went after him hard prior to him re-signing with Buffalo a couple of years ago. So that tells you that Reid likes him. The only obstacles would be;
1. He'll be 33 years old
2. Does his outburst mean he's just unhappy with things or does it mean that he doesn't dig the Losman-Evans connection? When Holcomb was playing he was locked on Moulds. Now that Losman is back he's back to ignoring Moulds and locking onto Evans. But would this hurt his chances with the Eagles in the post-TO era?
3. How much money will he be looking for?
I remember the Eagles offered him a contract back in his last free agency period, but he chose to stay in Buffalo. I'd take him, but not for much. Heck, maybe we can get him and Price and they can re-create that amazing year together. If Bledsoe can do it, McNabb can.
I'd love Moulds, but we have to hope he's having a bad year because of his situation and not him breaking down. Give him a 2 or 3 year deal. I doubt he'd take a 1 year deal.
Wouldn't mind seeing it, but seriously doubt it, 'cause:
1. He'll be 33 before next season--way past the Joe Banner "Logan's Run" litmus test.
2. Does anyone seriously believe the Eagles would bring in another team's malcontented WR after this season?
Sorry to say it, but whomever comes in next will be an altar boy. Come to think of it, I do seem to remember this guy who used to point up to God a lot... :paranoid
I was thinking the other day that Keenan McCardell has stayed productive and would be a nice # 2 WR for next season, despite his age...but, then remembered he was also a hold-out two years ago, so he's probably not on the Eagles short list.
The Eagles won't have an issue with holdouts. I mean Westbrook held out. That doesn't make you a malcontent. I've never heard of issues with Moulds outside of this year. If the Eagles want him they will talk to people in the Bills' organization to get an idea of what to expect.
For whatever reason, Mularkey BENCHED him in the last 3 quarters after the Bills took a 21-0 lead. Then they had the ball at the 3 and threw an interception on a first and goal. From what I read, that's the only thing he criticized, plus why he didn't play the last 3 qtrs. If you remember, Jon Runyan criticized Reid after the 2003 NFCCG saying the Eagles should have run more. I think there's a misconception out there that Reid doesn't like to be criticized. No one likes to but Reid seems to take it in stride.
Mularkey benched him for the same reason that they're deactivating him. Moulds blew up on him on the sidelines. Moulds was upset because they weren't running the ball... and clock... after they'd built up a big lead. Turned out to be right.
Moulds has no history of being a malcontent in Buffalo... he actually has a rep of being a total team player there. I dunno if I want to bring him to Philly though. He's even older than that one guy we're not playing... and his best years are apparently behind him. IMO... if he hits the market this offseason... he'll end up commanding more money than what the Eagles would be willing to offer.
I doubt he'll get a big money deal.
He'll get a deal thats pimped like a fat deal (like TO) but easy to walk away from, IMO.
I would go hard after him or Walker and I'm starting to lean towards Wayne. But he scares me and could very likely be another Peerless.
I'm not saying he's gonna land big money, but I just think there'll be someone out there who will offer more than what the Eagles would likey throw at him. IMO, they'll see his age... his low production... and even this little suspension blip of his... and that'll prevent them from seriously pursuing him. Especially in light of the mistake that was "that guy".
But again... if Moulds were to land in Philly... I wouldn't be mad at all.
I'd love Walker if we were able to pry him away this year (if not, then we better get him in '07)... and I wouldn't mind Wayne or even Randle-El. I just think in the Wayne/Randle-El cases, we'd just have to go with the approach of "a bunch of good WR's" instead of "one dominant guy and everybody else".
Wayne/Randle-El
Brown
Pinkston
Lewis
McMullen/McCants/whoever
... I can live with that.
Walker
Brown
Pinkston
Lewis
McMullen/McCants/whoever
:drool
QuoteBills | Moulds suspended for Week 14
Wed, 7 Dec 2005 10:04:16 -0800
Updating a previous report, ESPNews reports Buffalo Bills WR Eric Moulds has been suspended one game for conduct detrimental to the team. Moulds will miss the Week 14 game against the New England Patriots.
Philadelphia eagles, the gold standard in wide receiver suspenders.
Quote from: jeffreyjpa on December 08, 2005, 12:33:04 AM
1. He'll be 33 before next season--way past the Joe Banner "Logan's Run" litmus test.
;D :D ;D
Quote from: Wingspan on December 08, 2005, 12:11:44 PM
Philadelphia eagles, the gold standard in wide receiver suspenders.
Ha.
link (http://www.theredzone.org/news/showarticle.asp?ArticleID=3516)
QuoteChris Mortensen of ESPN reports the Buffalo Bills sent a T.O. type letter to wide receiver Eric Moulds informing him the team will pursue part of his signing bonus if there are any more incidents similar to those which occurred last week.
Mortensen said Moulds got in hot water because he took himself out of last Sunday's game after Lee Evans caught three early touchdown passes, he refused twice to return to the game; he said that he's not required to do what the coach tells him to do, he listened to music instead of the coaches at halftime; and he failed to show up for a meeting with coach Mike Mularkey on Monday.
He sounds like a great fit here.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on December 12, 2005, 10:05:35 AM
He sounds like a great fit here.
actually, i think you're right. there's nobody here that would catch 3 TDs in a game. Moulds would be a happy camper.
That situation in Buffalo is a mess and that doesn't change my opinion of Moulds at all. He's never had anything like that before.
I'd take him. Get Lewis out of here.
FWIW...
I read in USAToday's SportsWeekly from Jim Corbett in their little "insider" blurb that Moulds seemingly knows his days in Buffalo are over in 3 games because of his huge cap hit coming up and that he could be headed to Philadelphia to replace TO.
I sure hope so. I really want him here.
Quote from: MURP on December 12, 2005, 10:04:26 AM
link (http://www.theredzone.org/news/showarticle.asp?ArticleID=3516)
QuoteChris Mortensen of ESPN reports the Buffalo Bills sent a T.O. type letter to wide receiver Eric Moulds informing him the team will pursue part of his signing bonus if there are any more incidents similar to those which occurred last week.
Mortensen said Moulds got in hot water because he took himself out of last Sunday's game after Lee Evans caught three early touchdown passes, he refused twice to return to the game; he said that he's not required to do what the coach tells him to do, he listened to music instead of the coaches at halftime; and he failed to show up for a meeting with coach Mike Mularkey on Monday.
If this is true, there's no way in hell we get him and no way I'd want him.
Moulds is *MAYBE* a #1.5 receiver. MAYBE. I suppose if you put him across from Reggie B, you have a solid starting set of WR's... but have no delusions about him being a true #1. He's not.
i always look at those Packers teams that were really good and look at their WR, they didn't have studs, but they had a good group witha good back, good tight end, and a great QB.
and I think that was AR's philosophy before TO, the problem was, his group of Pinkston, Thrash, and Mitchell were below average.
if you signed Moulds, and had a group of Pinkston, Moulds, Brown, with LJ, with Westbrook and of course McNabb, you might have a pretty good offense that can spread the ball around.
I'd take Moulds for a year, assuming his attitude is right.
i wouldnt count on pinkston and i hope the birds dont either...not so much as far as coming back but coming back and not being reinjured...achilles are notorious for reinjury and being a wr makes that even more likely...they cant make the same mistake they did last year and come in with no depth at wr....they must have a valid plan b and c this next year
fact is they are not getting a number one wr this year so its a waste of time to even try and slot guys...just get a couple significant upgrades...and moulds could definitely be one...
hard to believe greg lewis is signed thru 2011...lol...obviosuly at low money but what were they thinking in doing that...he shouldnt even be on the team next year
How does Walker's injury affect his FA status? He still becomes a FA after next season, right?
Damn, I'd love to see him in Philly.
Quote from: Die-Hard on December 19, 2005, 12:04:56 PM
How does Walker's injury affect his FA status? He still becomes a FA after next season, right?
Damn, I'd love to see him in Philly.
The mere thought makes my loins quiver.
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 15, 2005, 09:15:40 AM
i wouldnt count on pinkston and i hope the birds dont either...not so much as far as coming back but coming back and not being reinjured...achilles are notorious for reinjury and being a wr makes that even more likely...they cant make the same mistake they did last year and come in with no depth at wr....they must have a valid plan b and c this next year
Exactly. Plan A needs to not include Pinkston imo. I'm not saying he shouldn't be part of the plan altogether but with his injury he should not be counted on in the same capacity as he was in the past.
I would love to see Moulds here. I was hoping for him a few years ago before he resigned with Buffalo. He's not quite the playmaker he's been in the past but he is a legitimate #1 reciever imo. He can be counted on to make plays.
I would love to see Reggie and Moulds starting next year with Lewis in the slot and McMullen (yes, I said it) getting moved around. If Pinkston can get back to stretching the field then I guess you find a place for him in there somewhere. It shouldn't be hard. It's not like he takes up much space.
Lewis has been a big disappointment this year in a starting role but I'm far from ready to give up on him. I think there's been quite a few things that have contributed to his suckiness that are beyond his control. I think he may have been forced into the starting role a little sooner than he was ready for. I think the whole TO thing was a distraction and I think the suspension/deactivation put even more weight on his shoulders than he was able to handle.
I think if he goes back in the slot he will be much more comfortable and productive.
I also said I wanted to keep Wilbur around for next year and I'm 100% serious about that. This was his make or break year and imo he's really stepped it up and earned a chance to come back next year.
Reggie's already earned his starting spot next year as far as I'm concerned. He's a rook and has done a tremendous job filling in as the team's #1 option. Give him and (a healthy) McNabb an offseason to work together and good things will happen.
Quote from: rjs246 on December 19, 2005, 12:35:40 PM
Quote from: Die-Hard on December 19, 2005, 12:04:56 PM
How does Walker's injury affect his FA status? He still becomes a FA after next season, right?
Damn, I'd love to see him in Philly.
The mere thought makes my loins quiver.
I've been saying that I want Walker since I heard he dumped Rosenpuke. I think I got laughed at.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on December 19, 2005, 12:36:25 PM
Lewis has been a big disappointment this year in a starting role but I'm far from ready to give up on him. I think there's been quite a few things that have contributed to his suckiness that are beyond his control. I think he may have been forced into the starting role a little sooner than he was ready for. I think the whole TO thing was a distraction and I think the suspension/deactivation put even more weight on his shoulders than he was able to handle.
I think if he goes back in the slot he will be much more comfortable and productive.
Agreed 100%. Those giving up on GLew are idiots.
Moulds played Saturday vs. the Broncos and had 9 catches for 112 yards. He's still a legit #1 IMO.
He has some questionable personality issues but he's not as mental or flamboyant as TO.
i am not giving up on greg lewis...but he'll never be more than a #4 guy.
i dont care what happens on or off the field...if the ball hits you in the hands and it falls to the ground and you fail to make plays fundamental to being a WR...you are practically worthless.
greg lewis is basically the same type of WR that thrash was. all we heard about was how fast he is...i have yet to see it.
even with all of the injuries...2 of the 3 current WRs have impressed me on occasion (Brown, McMullen)...lewis hasnt to the same extent.
Link (http://www.democratandchronicle.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20051217/SPORTS0101/512170330/-1/COLUMNS)
QuoteIt won't be a shock if Buffalo Bills soon-to-be free-agent wide receiver Eric Moulds winds up replacing Terrell Owens in Philadelphia next season. ...
If they sign Moulds and Javon Walker, I'd do the opposite of boo. It's been so long since I've done that I've forgotten what it's called.
I thought I read that Walker wasn't a FA...
Quote from: BigEd76 on December 19, 2005, 01:49:21 PM
I thought I read that Walker wasn't a FA...
I'm sure you're correct. I was just hopping on PhillyGirl's "GET WALKER" bandwagon.
I'm not saying give up on Lewis. But I can't see the Birds not picking up a WR this offseason, and then starting Brown/new guy. And McMullen has been much more effective this season, he's running and catching well. And I have always contended that a 6'4" slot receiver is ideal, matched up against a LB/S. That pushes Lewis down to 4 in my depth chart, and ToothPink into unemployment. Maybe he can bus tables with the Mormon Power Ranger at Chickie and Pete's.
Quote from: Tomahawk on December 19, 2005, 01:47:35 PM
If they sign Moulds and Javon Walker, I'd do the opposite of boo. It's been so long since I've done that I've forgotten what it's called.
Never happen, but dear lord that would probably make me come. Walker, Moulds and Brown. Get a blocking TE on the team and a RB who can get 3 yards every carry and my football boner would never go away.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on December 19, 2005, 12:51:12 PM
Moulds played Saturday vs. the Broncos and had 9 catches for 112 yards. He's still a legit #1 IMO.
He has some questionable personality issues but he's not as mental or flamboyant as TO.
Everyone's got questionable personality issues. Those who don't are crazy, retards or even worse........crazy retards.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on December 19, 2005, 01:36:42 PM
Link (http://www.democratandchronicle.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20051217/SPORTS0101/512170330/-1/COLUMNS)
QuoteIt won't be a shock if Buffalo Bills soon-to-be free-agent wide receiver Eric Moulds winds up replacing Terrell Owens in Philadelphia next season. ...
The article also says:
QuoteIf Benson fires him, Haslett would be free to collect on the final year of his contract in 2006 or sign with another team. If Haslett were to quit with one year left on his contract, Benson could force him to sit out next season. Any team wishing to name Haslett coach would have to get Benson's permission and perhaps give up a draft pick in the process as compensation
I thought after the Bucs stole Gruden from the Raiders that draft picks were no longer able to be used as compensation to the other club.
yup....but you expected great sports journalism in Buffalo? :)
what's the definition of "giving up" on Lewis? this year has proved that he can't be counted on as a contributing piece to the offense. he could be a 4th reciever and special teams guy, but he can't be an impactful WR in the NFL.
Let's remember something here guys....
Lewis wasn't drafted. He didn't play for a good college coach or play for a good football school. When he was plucked from the "I wasn't even good enough to be Mr. Irrelevant" list people were hardly thinking that we found a key WR for the future. Is it really such a huge deal that people are giving up on this guy now?
Sure, there are some guys out there who were not drafted and went on to be productive players. Rod Smith and Jimmy Smith both have had stellar careers. Lewis is neither. He's nothing more than a 4th WR, and he never was. Granted, he did well last year, but let's face it - Owens had a lot to do with that. If he is anything other than a 4th WR next year, I'll be very dissapointed.
Get Moulds.
Gargano wants Moulds
Phreak wants Moulds
I do.
Phreak > Gargano
I wonder if The Cuz knows anything inside? He's boys with Heckert. I'll choose to believe that he does have inside info and that we'll see Moulds here in a few months. :D
I'm ok with seeing Moulds in Philly. I just hope you all realize he's not nearly as good a player as T.O. was for us.
Quote from: FFatPatt on December 19, 2005, 04:56:42 PM
I'm ok with seeing Moulds in Philly. I just hope you all realize he's not nearly as good a player as T.O. was for us.
Preposterous!
Quote from: FFatPatt on December 19, 2005, 04:56:42 PM
I'm ok with seeing Moulds in Philly. I just hope you all realize he's not nearly as good a player as T.O. was for us.
Who?
That's just the problem. He's not going to make anyone forget about #81.
No, but Moulds is a good solid WR. He's no stud, but he's the best of what will be out there. I'm still not sold on Wayne yet.
Wayne has a higher ceiling and equal floor to Moulds, IMO. But he'll cost a lot more.
Get them both, I say. And Kevin Johnson.
IMO, they don't NEED a dominant #1 like TO. he definitley helped when he was here on the field, but it's not as if they can't win without him. they just need to improve the overall WR corps. Green Bay had a great team that won a Super Bowl and made it to another one with a good running back, a great quarterback, a very good defense and a WR corps that was solid from top to bottom. New England is the same way, so is Seattle.
and that's what AR was trying to accomplish before TO, the problem was, they were not good enough as a group. but with if you can add Moulds to Brown, and Pinkston that group is much better than the group of Thrash, Pinkston, and Mitchell
I tend to agree with Mo. We didn't have a marquee guy in the first 3 NFCCG's. Signing Owens was an abberation. I've been saying all along that we had a Jerry Rice type guy in his prime, so going on that notion it will be impossible to bring in anybody that will make us forget about 81. Javon Walker wouldn't even do it.
But, Moulds would upgrade our corps at WR, so why not get him?
I honestly do agree the Eagles should get Moulds, or Wayne, or some other #1.5 receiver out there. That's the best way to ensure that Donovan will have someone to throw to, IMO. I'm just saying that the team will also need Pinkston to contribute and Reggie to keep improving. Neither of those things are certain.
From the 3 or 4 Bills games I saw this year Moulds still looks very fresh and healthy. But with the Eagles luck if they sign him he becomes old and bad.
Quote from: Philly Forever on December 19, 2005, 07:16:34 PM
But with the Eagles luck if they sign him he becomes old.
Think theres a team out there that can slow the aging process?