trade First round pick, Westbrook and Lito for Reggie Bush?
only if i loved tons of dead cap money
Quote from: stalker on December 07, 2005, 11:04:30 AM
trade First round pick, Westbrook and Lito for Reggie Bush?
shut up
would you trade Westbrook and Lito for:
- LT
- Shaun Alexander
- the 85 Bears defense
- Torry Holt
- Marvin Harrison
- Peyton Manning
- a 5th rounder
I think i might. discuss.
Quote from: Wingspan on December 07, 2005, 11:06:14 AM
Quote from: stalker on December 07, 2005, 11:04:30 AM
trade First round pick, Westbrook and Lito for Reggie Bush?
shut up
:P This is only a small taste of what we will see between now & April.
It would probably take 2 #1s, 2 #2s and Tra Thomas to get the #1 pick...
Quote from: BigEd76 on December 07, 2005, 11:09:14 AM
It would probably take 2 #1s, 2 #2s and Tra Thomas to get the #1 pick...
you just started a rumor. nicely done.
The answer is: No, I wouldn't do it.
Would You...pass up drafting a WR or OLB in first round to get Mercedes Lewis, TE, UCLA in the first round ??? I would be very interested :paranoid
Quote from: fansince61 on December 07, 2005, 11:21:03 AM
Would You...pass up drafting a WR or OLB in first round to get Mercedes Lewis, TE, UCLA in the first round ??? I would be very interested :paranoid
it depends on who's available. I feel the need at OLB isn't something that can be overlooked. If they draft a LB after the first round, chances are he won't see the field all year.
Is there an OLB top 7 or 8 like Arrington?
Lance Briggs is pretty friggin good.
Quote from: stalker on December 07, 2005, 11:27:39 AM
Is there an OLB top 7 or 8 like Arrington?
AJ Hawk and Chad Greenway
To draft an OLB we need a game changer....Arrington, Derrick Brookes; somewhere in that vein. LT was the ultimate model for these sorts, but there may never be another. Coke and all, the guy is the best defensive player ever.
Quote from: fansince61 on December 07, 2005, 11:21:03 AM
Would You...pass up drafting a WR or OLB in first round to get Mercedes Lewis, TE, UCLA in the first round ??? I would be very interested :paranoid
No - though Mercedes is the name of a tremendously engineered car, it is also a girl's name. In fact, there is a pornstar whose moniker is Mercedes. She has big mams and a fairly tight end; however, football is not her forte.
Quote from: Mad-Lad on December 07, 2005, 11:36:14 AM
Lance Briggs is pretty friggin good.
Yes he is, but so was Colvin when he played for the Bears. I haven't heard much from/about him since he went to New England.
It's Marcedes, not Mercedes... :)
Quote from: Mad-Lad on December 07, 2005, 11:07:26 AM
would you trade Westbrook and Lito for:
- LT
- Shaun Alexander
- the 85 Bears defense
- Torry Holt
- Marvin Harrison
- Peyton Manning
- a 5th rounder
I think i might. discuss.
Only if you threw in Mini Ditka, Da coach ;D
Banned crack-smoking posters should stay banned.
Quote from: BigEd76 on December 07, 2005, 11:41:44 AM
It's Marcedes, not Mercedes... :)
Oh, then HELL YEAH!!
GET MARCEDES LEWIS!!
Do we really want another 1st-day UCLA bust?
No. I was joking as I don't think TE is all that pressing of a need.
Not a big need but we need another one...preferably one that can block...
Quote from: BigEd76 on December 07, 2005, 11:38:58 AM
Quote from: stalker on December 07, 2005, 11:27:39 AM
Is there an OLB top 7 or 8 like Arrington?
AJ Hawk and Chad Greenway
We don't need no stinkin' AJ! We could use another Chad on the team though.
Quote from: Tomahawk on December 07, 2005, 11:41:08 AM
Quote from: Mad-Lad on December 07, 2005, 11:36:14 AM
Lance Briggs is pretty friggin good.
Yes he is, but so was Colvin when he played for the Bears. I haven't heard much from/about him since he went to New England.
I'd take Colvin over all 3 OLBs the Eagles have right now.
Quote from: Mad-Lad on December 07, 2005, 12:00:01 PM
Quote from: Tomahawk on December 07, 2005, 11:41:08 AM
Quote from: Mad-Lad on December 07, 2005, 11:36:14 AM
Lance Briggs is pretty friggin good.
Yes he is, but so was Colvin when he played for the Bears. I haven't heard much from/about him since he went to New England.
I'd take Colvin over all 3 OLBs the Eagles have right now.
Me too. I just wasn't sure why he was such a force with the Bears, but seems to barely play in NE.
Quote from: FFatPatt on December 07, 2005, 11:42:48 AM
Banned crack-smoking posters should stay banned.
??? ? ??? ? ???
Quote from: Tomahawk on December 07, 2005, 12:06:31 PM
Quote from: Mad-Lad on December 07, 2005, 12:00:01 PM
Quote from: Tomahawk on December 07, 2005, 11:41:08 AM
Quote from: Mad-Lad on December 07, 2005, 11:36:14 AM
Lance Briggs is pretty friggin good.
Yes he is, but so was Colvin when he played for the Bears. I haven't heard much from/about him since he went to New England.
I'd take Colvin over all 3 OLBs the Eagles have right now.
Me too. I just wasn't sure why he was such a force with the Bears, but seems to barely play in NE.
I know he was hurt pretty bad a couple years ago. Other than that, i'm sure he had a hard time getting on the field with McGinest & Vrabel ahead of him.
Quote from: BigEd76 on December 07, 2005, 11:46:44 AM
Do we really want another 1st-day UCLA bust?
The guy is picked by some to be the next great TE in the NFL...260-270, 6"7". 4.7 40...and can play the outside >:D >:D >:D..oh ya GREAT HANDS >:D >:D
Sounds like Teyo Johnson
Quote from: BigEd76 on December 07, 2005, 12:36:53 PM
Sounds like Teyo Johnson
LOL...that's exactly what I was thinking!
Quote from: EagleFeva on December 07, 2005, 01:06:45 PM
Quote from: BigEd76 on December 07, 2005, 12:36:53 PM
Sounds like Teyo Johnson
Or Jason Dunn.
Jason Dunn has beefed up and become a solid blocking/2nd TE for the Chiefs.
Dream daft for me - one of the would be Mario Williams 6'7" 275 - qb sacking machine - might be as good as Peppers coming out- stick him in the rotation - kalua bye bye - and mc dougle get your act together -
Then take the best DT available there shoud be some good ones left in the second round - if not take a TE
another big boy for the offense Lenard Pope 6' 7" 260 4.55 40yd dash Kid can block - be a quick contributer as a blocker and in two TE set
If trading up is needed to get this done do it
Free agent adreess - Lb get Peterson WR Lloyd, FULLBACK - DAVENP0RT -= have the money to do all three - \
3rd through final round Cb S and OL or a Linebacker if one is left
There are going to be some intriguing OLBs available as RFAs, it just depends on what their teams tender them. If you want to go the SLB route and put Dhani over at WIL, then I believe that Hunter Hillenmeyer is your man, from the Bears. He's 6-4, 238. and this is the second straight good season he's had. If the Bears don't give him the middle tender, if they try to slide him through cheaply, he's one of the players I think the Birds should look at--it would cost a 5th round pick to get him.
If you want to go the WIL route, then Wil Witherspoon, who's scheduled to be a UFA, and Angelo Crowell, who's with Buffalo,, and is one of the few Bills players on defense having a good year, is a RFA--but, it would at least cost a 3rd round pick top get him.
Hillenmeyer is a good player but I would prefer Will Witherspoon. I like him a lot and signing him would be a very good addition.
We might see Greg Richmond turn into a player too. They're really high on him.
I want Kiwanuka or Williams as well. You can never have enough good pass rushers.
Can we come up with a trade for an imaginative playbook?
A playbook that doesn't say "Run on a 3rd and 11..."
:boom
Quote from: SheEagle on December 08, 2005, 08:30:17 AM
Can we come up with a trade for an imaginative playbook?
A playbook that doesn't say "Run on a 3rd and 11..."
:boom
Or pass on 3rd or 4th and short....
Can we come up with a trade for an imaginative playbook?
A playbook that doesn't say "Run on a 3rd and 11..."
not until they get a coach who isnt the nfl's version of the truman show...i think andy might be a robot synthetically created in a lab or a drexel engineer major...go down to the armory dressed like irene cara circa 85 and flirt with andy and all the rotc geeks...then you can go to the bangin ass arcade they have at the cafeteria on chestnut...i believe theres still a bowling alley there as well
But, to get back to the initial question rephrased this way:
Assuming we have the 11th pick, what would you be willing to package to get Reggie?
the Eagles aren't getting Reggie Bush.
I think there are too many positions on the team that need to be looked at to trade the farm for a running back.
you dont trade the farm but if reggie bush can be got you get him...and worry about the rest later
Yeah, cause that worked out so well in Ditka's case....
Yeah, cause that worked out so well in Ditka's case....
"you dont trade the farm"
Quote from: stalker on December 08, 2005, 12:27:07 PM
But, to get back to the initial question rephrased this way:
Assuming we have the 11th pick, what would you be willing to package to get Reggie?
I wouldn't. As good as he is, the Eagles already have Westbrook, who is a similar player.
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 08, 2005, 12:46:37 PM
Yeah, cause that worked out so well in Ditka's case....
"you dont trade the farm"
What do you trade then? Do you give up a #1 in 2007 & #2 in 2006?
Quote from: Beermonkey on December 08, 2005, 01:01:22 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 08, 2005, 12:46:37 PM
Yeah, cause that worked out so well in Ditka's case....
"you dont trade the farm"
What do you trade then? Do you give up a #1 in 2007 & #2 in 2006?
That'll get you halfway there....
Quote from: FFatPatt on December 08, 2005, 12:58:22 PM
Quote from: stalker on December 08, 2005, 12:27:07 PM
But, to get back to the initial question rephrased this way:
Assuming we have the 11th pick, what would you be willing to package to get Reggie?
I wouldn't. As good as he is, the Eagles already have Westbrook, who is a similar player.
Also, Bush isn't even a full time player in college. While his play has been beyond impressive, I don't want the Eagles to get him.
We have greater needs.
What do you trade then? Do you give up a #1 in 2007 & #2 in 2006?
impossible to say without knowing how far theyd have to move up...among many other factors...but i would do the above for bush
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 08, 2005, 01:21:00 PM
What do you trade then? Do you give up a #1 in 2007 & #2 in 2006?
impossible to say without knowing how far theyd have to move up...among many other factors...but i would do the above for bush
And Westbrrok or Moats or Lito?
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 08, 2005, 08:41:17 AM
Can we come up with a trade for an imaginative playbook?
A playbook that doesn't say "Run on a 3rd and 11..."
not until they get a coach who isnt the nfl's version of the truman show...i think andy might be a robot synthetically created in a lab or a drexel engineer major...go down to the armory dressed like irene cara circa 85 and flirt with andy and all the rotc geeks...then you can go to the bangin ass arcade they have at the cafeteria on chestnut...i believe theres still a bowling alley there as well
Hmmm....
I think I am too blonde for Irene Cara....but, good thought!
oh what a feeling...I know what you mean - I have always supported Andy, and I still like him...for now...but COME ON. My arse can call plays better than that!
Quote from: SheEagle on December 08, 2005, 01:32:56 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 08, 2005, 08:41:17 AM
Can we come up with a trade for an imaginative playbook?
A playbook that doesn't say "Run on a 3rd and 11..."
not until they get a coach who isnt the nfl's version of the truman show...i think andy might be a robot synthetically created in a lab or a drexel engineer major...go down to the armory dressed like irene cara circa 85 and flirt with andy and all the rotc geeks...then you can go to the bangin ass arcade they have at the cafeteria on chestnut...i believe theres still a bowling alley there as well
Hmmm....
I think I am too blonde for Irene Cara....but, good thought!
oh what a feeling...
I know what you mean - I have always supported Andy, and I still like him...for now...but COME ON. My arse can call plays better than that!
I'm not calling you a liar, but I find that difficult to believe.
It seems Reid has actually been calling more run plays on 3rd and short this year.
Quote from: FFatPatt on December 08, 2005, 12:58:22 PM
Quote from: stalker on December 08, 2005, 12:27:07 PM
But, to get back to the initial question rephrased this way:
Assuming we have the 11th pick, what would you be willing to package to get Reggie?
I wouldn't. As good as he is, the Eagles already have Westbrook, who is a similar player.
You're kidding, right? Similar?
Stalker or Spammer? You decide.
:-D
Quote from: Tomahawk on December 08, 2005, 01:51:22 PM
Quote from: SheEagle on December 08, 2005, 01:32:56 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 08, 2005, 08:41:17 AM
Can we come up with a trade for an imaginative playbook?
A playbook that doesn't say "Run on a 3rd and 11..."
not until they get a coach who isnt the nfl's version of the truman show...i think andy might be a robot synthetically created in a lab or a drexel engineer major...go down to the armory dressed like irene cara circa 85 and flirt with andy and all the rotc geeks...then you can go to the bangin ass arcade they have at the cafeteria on chestnut...i believe theres still a bowling alley there as well
Hmmm....
I think I am too blonde for Irene Cara....but, good thought!
oh what a feeling...
I know what you mean - I have always supported Andy, and I still like him...for now...but COME ON. My arse can call plays better than that!
I'm not calling you a liar, but I find that difficult to believe.
It seems Reid has actually been calling more run plays on 3rd and short this year.
Ok, Tom. It was a figure of speech.
That being said, I simply cannot follow his play calling - at times, it makes me want to kill someone, man, woman, small child...whatever is in the way. I simply cannot understand the rationale of calling a crap running play, that MIGHT get 3 yards, when we NEED something like...oh, ELEVEN.
And then, there is the whole "everyone else is doing the tight end over the middle - I simply cannot understand why" thing that Andy has....well, Mr. Reid...because the TE over the middle...IT WORKS for other teams. Ya think you could talk him into running that route a few times in practice with our TE - just on the hunch we could use it??
WHY can't WE exploit another team's weak secondary...the way ours has been abused?
:boom
Quote from: The Waco Kid on December 08, 2005, 02:01:45 PM
Quote from: FFatPatt on December 08, 2005, 12:58:22 PM
Quote from: stalker on December 08, 2005, 12:27:07 PM
But, to get back to the initial question rephrased this way:
Assuming we have the 11th pick, what would you be willing to package to get Reggie?
I wouldn't. As good as he is, the Eagles already have Westbrook, who is a similar player.
You're kidding, right? Similar?
How in the hell would I be kidding? Both are shifty/big-play backs. Neither are workhorse/30-carries-a-game backs. Trading a bunch of stuff away to get Reggie Bush when you just signed Westbrook through 2010 is simply a good way to avoid address other needs this team REALLY has.
I'm not saying Bush won't be special or better than Westbrook in the NFL, because it's impossible to know... only that it makes about as much sense to move up to get Bush as it would to move up to get Vince Young.