QuoteWALKER, ROSENHAUS PART WAYS
WBAY-TV in Green Bay reports that Packers receiver Javon Walker has terminated his contract with agent Drew Rosenhaus.
We've learned that the move occurred on Friday, but that it was weeks in the making.
Walker, through Rosenhaus, threatened to hold out until he received an extension to his current contract, which runs through the 2006 season. Faced with a forfeiture of signing bonus money -- and thanks to pressure from quarterback Brett Favre -- Walker showed up on time for camp.
Then tore his knee up in Week One of the regular season.
And while it's becoming popular in agent circles to dump on Drew, the reality is that the guy has worked out long-term deals for several of his high-profile clients over the past several months, including Jeremy Shockey, Santana Moss, Dan Morgan, Anquan Boldin, and others.
Still, the calculated strategies employed by Rosenhaus for both Walker and Terrell Owens have failed. In the case of T.O., player and agent misjudged the resolve of the team. In the case of Javon, fate in the form of a ruptured ligament prevented Walker from proving that his performance in 2004 wasn't a fluke.
As Walker now looks for a new agent and still hopes for a new contract, he needs to remember that, even if he finishes out the 2006 season and completes his current contract, he won't be eligible for unrestricted free agency absent an extension of the CBA. Although many players are smacking their lips for the uncapped year of 2007, only players with six or more credited seasons will be eligible.
Guys like Walker, who will have only five years in come 2007, will be subject to restricted free agency.
Ha.
Ha.
I'm fine with Drew getting the players he represents that are FREE AGENTS a good deal, but he crossed the line with the shtein he pulled with TO, Walker, and McKenzie. They're all to blame but he's the evil behind the mayhem.
So I hope he rots in hell. >:D
Good for him. Geekboy.
I like Javon Walker a little bit more after reading that. :yay
Get Walker!
(No, really.)
"So, Drew: What have you done for your client, I mean, other than get him kicked off the team?"
good job, Walker.
Let hope players coming out of college (including those from "The U") see all this and stear clear of Rosenhaus.
WTG Walker. :yay
As far as "Get Walker"....how bad was his knee injury? Was it just his ACL or was it like all 3 ligaments?
Found a USA Today clip that says it was only the ACL.
Walker Injury (http://fantasyfootball.usatoday.com/index.php?sport=pftball&type=profile&name=4272)
Good news. :yay
Reid wanted Walker in the draft too....
let the rumors begin.
Just pondering the thought....IF the Eagles were to get him (seems a perfect fit...Eagles hate Rosenpuke, so does Walker), do you stand pat with him, Pinkston, Reggie and GLew?
Unless he is totally dedicated to Green Bay (which i doubt), he would be looking to leave. The outlook on the future of that team is grim at best.
I wonder how much his asking price will take a hit after that injury.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on December 06, 2005, 01:49:07 PM
Just pondering the thought....IF the Eagles were to get him (seems a perfect fit...Eagles hate Rosenpuke, so does Walker), do you stand pat with him, Pinkston, Reggie and GLew?
Yeah, I can live with that all day long.
Quote from: MURP on December 06, 2005, 01:47:43 PM
Reid wanted Walker in the draft too....
let the rumors begin.
Not to mention 'ol AR is a sucker for signing a player with a bum knee.
Quote from: EagleFeva on December 06, 2005, 01:50:14 PM
Quote from: PhillyGirl on December 06, 2005, 01:49:07 PM
Just pondering the thought....IF the Eagles were to get him (seems a perfect fit...Eagles hate Rosenpuke, so does Walker), do you stand pat with him, Pinkston, Reggie and GLew?
Yeah, I can live with that all day long.
If he can do what he did last season, then i would think that a healthy Pinky and 2nd year Reggie and G Lew would be a great WR Corps.
I missed Pinky this year. I think I was one of the VERY few who said we'd miss him when he got hurt.
As far as i can remember, only you and Dio. But it's true, with Pinky in a couple of those games, the Eagles are 7-5. But that's just hindsight.
This is painful because the expectations were so high. the 3-13 was expected...the 5-11 was expected, but not this.
QuoteEagles | T. Thomas fires Rosenhaus, rehires Schaffer
Mon, 5 Dec 2005 21:17:15 -0800
Marc Narducci, of the Philadelphia Inquirer, reports Philadelphia Eagles OT Tra Thomas (back) fired agent Drew Rosenhaus earlier in the 2005 season and rehired his former agent, Peter Schaffer.
8)
WOW!!
And when I said Drew would start losing high profile players, I was told I was an idiot. :-D
Quote from: BigEd76 on December 06, 2005, 02:00:00 PM
QuoteEagles | T. Thomas fires Rosenhaus, rehires Schaffer
Mon, 5 Dec 2005 21:17:15 -0800
Marc Narducci, of the Philadelphia Inquirer, reports Philadelphia Eagles OT Tra Thomas (back) fired agent Drew Rosenhaus earlier in the 2005 season and rehired his former agent, Peter Schaffer.
8)
THE SEASON IS SAVED!!
Quote from: The Waco Kid on December 06, 2005, 01:56:13 PM
As far as i can remember, only you and Dio. But it's true, with Pinky in a couple of those games, the Eagles are 7-5.
and how does one prove that?
No proof, only speculation. I'm no philly media member!
Quote from: MURP on December 06, 2005, 02:03:45 PM
Quote from: The Waco Kid on December 06, 2005, 01:56:13 PM
As far as i can remember, only you and Dio. But it's true, with Pinky in a couple of those games, the Eagles are 7-5.
and how does one prove that?
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Quote from: EagleFeva on December 06, 2005, 01:51:14 PM
Quote from: MURP on December 06, 2005, 01:47:43 PM
Reid wanted Walker in the draft too....
let the rumors begin.
Not to mention 'ol AR is a sucker for signing a player with a bum knee.
If he was a Mormon Reid wouldd have already traded for him.
Quote from: Wingspan on December 06, 2005, 02:28:22 PM
Quote from: MURP on December 06, 2005, 02:03:45 PM
Quote from: The Waco Kid on December 06, 2005, 01:56:13 PM
As far as i can remember, only you and Dio. But it's true, with Pinky in a couple of those games, the Eagles are 7-5.
and how does one prove that?
(http://pspmedia.ign.com/psp/image/object/727/727130/madden06_pspboxboxart_160w.jpg)
the only thing that proved was the curse is real.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on December 06, 2005, 01:49:07 PM
Just pondering the thought....IF the Eagles were to get him (seems a perfect fit...Eagles hate Rosenpuke, so does Walker), do you stand pat with him, Pinkston, Reggie and GLew?
Hell yeah, I'd be thrilled with that depth at WR. Walker has TO type size and speed, is younger, and is a true #1. I have the feeling the most our FO will do though is bring in a veteran like Eric Moulds (assuming he's cut).
Tra :yay
SD, I disagree. Reid LOVES Walker.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on December 06, 2005, 04:10:58 PM
SD, I disagree. Reid LOVES Walker.
I never said he doesn't, I just think there's other needs they may address first.
Actually, this is a HUGE need and he knows it. He knows losing TO is HUGE. He wouldn't have gotten TO if he didn't think so.
I think Walker is a distinct possibility.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on December 06, 2005, 04:14:04 PM
Actually, this is a HUGE need and he knows it. He knows losing TO is HUGE. He wouldn't have gotten TO if he didn't think so.
I think Walker is a distinct possibility.
Any idea of what type of cap space we'll have once TO is cut? Ed? ;D
Quote from: SD_Eagle on December 06, 2005, 04:20:27 PM
Quote from: PhillyGirl on December 06, 2005, 04:14:04 PM
Actually, this is a HUGE need and he knows it. He knows losing TO is HUGE. He wouldn't have gotten TO if he didn't think so.
I think Walker is a distinct possibility.
Any idea of what type of cap space we'll have once TO is cut? Ed? ;D
he's posting the question on 43 other message boards right now to get your answer...you're going to have to hold please....
he's not coming here he's not a free agent. and "gods" probably going to be playing another year after this fiasco which will probably appeal for him to stick around for another season and try to get the numbers to get a payday. i dont see the FO doing much after the failed TO experiement.
Quote from: Wingspan on December 06, 2005, 04:22:57 PM
Quote from: SD_Eagle on December 06, 2005, 04:20:27 PM
Quote from: PhillyGirl on December 06, 2005, 04:14:04 PM
Actually, this is a HUGE need and he knows it. He knows losing TO is HUGE. He wouldn't have gotten TO if he didn't think so.
I think Walker is a distinct possibility.
Any idea of what type of cap space we'll have once TO is cut? Ed? ;D
he's posting the question on 43 other message boards right now to get your answer...you're going to have to hold please....
:P
About $5.5M since he would have counted over $7M with the bonus....
Quote from: L-ong-B-each-I-ggle on December 06, 2005, 05:49:04 PM
. i dont see the FO doing much after the failed TO experiement.
That is a ridiculous thing to say. Comparing Walker and TO is preposterous.
i meant in general. if you think the FO is going to sign another big name WR your kidding yourself. with brown, pinkston coming back and g-lew, your lookin at your recieving corp right there. sorry, you've been on pinkstons nuts, lets see what he can do w/o a TO. my guess would be exactly what he did before he got here. not alot.
Quote from: L-ong-B-each-I-ggle on December 06, 2005, 05:58:20 PM
i meant in general. if you think the FO is going to sign another big name WR your kidding yourself. with brown, pinkston coming back and g-lew, your lookin at your recieving corp right there. sorry, you've been on pinkstons nuts, lets see what he can do w/o a TO. my guess would be exactly what he did before he got here. not alot.
I humbly disagree. The Front Office, particularly Andy Reid, realizes the importance of a good WR. Even with the biggest Mormon Blinders on, Reid must have seen how much more potent this offense was with TO. If anything, they just won't take risks on athletes with potential character issues.
Quote from: BigEd76 on December 06, 2005, 05:54:02 PM
:P
About $5.5M since he would have counted over $7M with the bonus....
We should just erase TO's name from that deal and replace it with Walkers. :deion
Quote from: PhillyGirl on December 06, 2005, 01:49:07 PM
Just pondering the thought....IF the Eagles were to get him (seems a perfect fit...Eagles hate Rosenpuke, so does Walker), do you stand pat with him, Pinkston, Reggie and GLew?
Tough call simply because he'd be coming back from a pretty serious knee injury. I know it's a common injury in the NFL and the treatment they get it top notch but it's still a question mark. Also, there's no gaurantee with Pinky either. I'm sure he'll be fine but I'll be very concerned about his Achilles from here on out. If the Eagles go after him (Walker), I'll be all for it but I don't know if I'd feel comfortable with him and Pink as the starting wideouts with the (lack of) depth the Eagles have at reciever right now.
Also, let's say that the Eagles do sign Walker (or any other legit reciever that may be available). What happens to Reggie next year? What happens to Lewis? I really like what I've seen from Reggie and I feel pretty good about him as a starter next year. If the Eagles signed Walker, he would potentially bring the deep threat capability which would kind of eliminate the need for Pinkston. Lewis either isn't ready to start or just isn't suited to but I do think that he would excel as the 3rd reciever. So between Pink and Lewis, who would be the odd man out?
Pinkston.
there's an unsubstantiated rumor on another board that kearse fired him as well.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on December 06, 2005, 06:21:13 PM
Quote from: PhillyGirl on December 06, 2005, 01:49:07 PM
Just pondering the thought....IF the Eagles were to get him (seems a perfect fit...Eagles hate Rosenpuke, so does Walker), do you stand pat with him, Pinkston, Reggie and GLew?
Tough call simply because he'd be coming back from a pretty serious knee injury. I know it's a common injury in the NFL and the treatment they get it top notch but it's still a question mark. Also, there's no gaurantee with Pinky either. I'm sure he'll be fine but I'll be very concerned about his Achilles from here on out. If the Eagles go after him (Walker), I'll be all for it but I don't know if I'd feel comfortable with him and Pink as the starting wideouts with the (lack of) depth the Eagles have at reciever right now.
Also, let's say that the Eagles do sign Walker (or any other legit reciever that may be available). What happens to Reggie next year? What happens to Lewis? I really like what I've seen from Reggie and I feel pretty good about him as a starter next year. If the Eagles signed Walker, he would potentially bring the deep threat capability which would kind of eliminate the need for Pinkston. Lewis either isn't ready to start or just isn't suited to but I do think that he would excel as the 3rd reciever. So between Pink and Lewis, who would be the odd man out?
who gives a shtein what happens to lewis...he cant play as a starter. we know that now.
Quote from: Wingspan on December 06, 2005, 07:27:23 PM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on December 06, 2005, 06:21:13 PM
Quote from: PhillyGirl on December 06, 2005, 01:49:07 PM
Just pondering the thought....IF the Eagles were to get him (seems a perfect fit...Eagles hate Rosenpuke, so does Walker), do you stand pat with him, Pinkston, Reggie and GLew?
Tough call simply because he'd be coming back from a pretty serious knee injury. I know it's a common injury in the NFL and the treatment they get it top notch but it's still a question mark. Also, there's no gaurantee with Pinky either. I'm sure he'll be fine but I'll be very concerned about his Achilles from here on out. If the Eagles go after him (Walker), I'll be all for it but I don't know if I'd feel comfortable with him and Pink as the starting wideouts with the (lack of) depth the Eagles have at reciever right now.
Also, let's say that the Eagles do sign Walker (or any other legit reciever that may be available). What happens to Reggie next year? What happens to Lewis? I really like what I've seen from Reggie and I feel pretty good about him as a starter next year. If the Eagles signed Walker, he would potentially bring the deep threat capability which would kind of eliminate the need for Pinkston. Lewis either isn't ready to start or just isn't suited to but I do think that he would excel as the 3rd reciever. So between Pink and Lewis, who would be the odd man out?
who gives a shtein what happens to lewis...he cant play as a starter. we know that now.
I think he's had some damn good games, and for a while was catching everything thrown his way.
Why do we know that now? Becuase you're sad today?
Quote from: methdeez on December 06, 2005, 08:41:00 PM
I think he's had some damn good games, and for a while was catching everything thrown his way.
Why do we know that now? Becuase you're sad today?
nope. he's very similar to james thrash. he doesnt fight for the ball. if he gets open, he catches it. but if it's a pass where he needs to use his body more to get to it. it hits the turf.
With Javon Walker hurt the way he was his situation has a good chance of being a "Shawn Barber" with the 1 year "prove yourself again" deal.
Quote from: Wingspan on December 06, 2005, 07:26:28 PM
there's an unsubstantiated rumor on another board that kearse fired him as well.
Since they're both named "J[e|a]von," I've gotta think the rumor had the wrong last name.
Quote from: Susquehanna Birder on December 07, 2005, 12:47:44 PM
Quote from: Wingspan on December 06, 2005, 07:26:28 PM
there's an unsubstantiated rumor on another board that kearse fired him as well.
Since they're both named "J[e|a]von," I've gotta think the rumor had the wrong last name.
most likely.
esp since kearse would have no reason to do so...he's pretty set for a while and rosenhaus gets his commission anyway.
No link, but apparently he hired Fletcher Smith. hmmmm
Quote from: BigEd76 on December 07, 2005, 02:04:39 PM
No link, but apparently he hired Fletcher Smith. hmmmm
I assume you mean Walker?
yeah. Supposedly Cold Pizza mentioned it this morning. I haven't checked for a legit source though...
BigE, you're always my reliable source, this better be right or i'm going to look for another one.
Wouldn't it be fantastic to see Rosenslut asking "paper or plastic" someday?
Wonder if he'll room with Freddie Mitchell...
(I know that would never happen...but it could be fun)
Walker is a free agent in 2007, correct? Some people mentioned us getting him for next year. How would we do that? I'm not sure the Packers would trade him.
So how does Pinkston lose a whole year because of an injury and then somehow become a good player? Do you people honestly think that he would have made a difference this year? He's no better than Lewis or Brown. Him being healthy would just mean having one more mediocre WR on the team.
Quote from: phattymatty on December 07, 2005, 04:08:32 PM
So how does Pinkston lose a whole year because of an injury and then somehow become a good player? Do you people honestly think that he would have made a difference this year? He's no better than Lewis or Brown. Him being healthy would just mean having one more mediocre WR on the team.
He's better than Lewis. The jury is out on Brown, we'll see when they report in.
You've been duped by ESPN replaying the same alligator arm clips of Pink declining to get nailed while reaching for uncatchable passes. Pink is a decent #2. Look at his YPC. When a guy stretches the field like Pink did, the safeties have to respect that. That leaves you a little more room to get busy underneath. Without Pink, no one has pushed the safety back, because no one (on the Eagles) sprints down the field for a 35 yard bomb/PI call like he does.
I hope Brown proves himself to be better than Pink, but Glew has shown, emphatically, that he is not.
Quote from: Philly Forever on December 07, 2005, 03:58:43 PM
Walker is a free agent in 2007, correct? Some people mentioned us getting him for next year. How would we do that? I'm not sure the Packers would trade him.
I think that they'd consider trading him, considering he's coming off injury, if they don't think they'll be able to lock him up past 2006.
Quote from: Diomedes on December 07, 2005, 04:22:50 PM
He's better than Lewis. The jury is out on Brown, we'll see when they report in.
You've been duped by ESPN replaying the same alligator arm clips of Pink declining to get nailed while reaching for uncatchable passes.
I hope Brown proves himself to be better than Pink, but Glew has shown, emphatically, that he is not.
Oh thanks for clarifying that, you're right I never saw him play the last several years. Everything I get I get from ESPN.
I agree he's probably better than Lewis, he's a little faster, but neither of them can catch the ball for shtein. Everyone seems to forget the Carolina NFCC. (I saw some snippets on ESPN.) And to say most of his alligator arm plays last year were uncatchable is ridiculous. I was at the game at Giants Stadium last year and have never respected him since.
He would have started for us this year, but for everyone to think we would have more wins because of him is the most retarded thing I've heard in a while. Which is impressive because I watch ESPN a lot.
Quote from: phattymatty on December 07, 2005, 04:50:18 PMEveryone seems to forget the Carolina NFCC.
I was there. It was disgraceful. But if you'll recall, the refs slept through that game. And Pink led the NFL in YPC last year. He's far better than Glew. There is no way to say that the team would win more with him, that's a preposterous thing to say. But he's more important than you think.
And I was right: You watch too much ESPN. Shtein rots your brain.
for whatever it's worth, Mike Harmon on Yahoo sports wrote:
QuoteAnd, since we're on the topic of disgruntled players, the latest reports have Terrell Owens dumping agent Drew Rosenhaus. Owens would be the second marquee player to fire Rosenhaus in a week. Javon Walker, who threatened a holdout before reporting to the Packers, dismissed the outspoken agent last week.
Even if everyone fires him and no one hires him, the guy still has enough money to sip margaritas on the beach on some remote island for the rest of life. But as long as he keeps getting humiliated like this, I like it.
Quote from: MURP on December 10, 2005, 11:47:09 AM
for whatever it's worth, Mike Harmon on Yahoo sports wrote:
QuoteAnd, since we're on the topic of disgruntled players, the latest reports have Terrell Owens dumping agent Drew Rosenhaus. Owens would be the second marquee player to fire Rosenhaus in a week. Javon Walker, who threatened a holdout before reporting to the Packers, dismissed the outspoken agent last week.
If that's true then it will be a very Merry Christmas.
Quote from: MURP on December 10, 2005, 11:47:09 AM
for whatever it's worth, Mike Harmon on Yahoo sports wrote:
QuoteAnd, since we're on the topic of disgruntled players, the latest reports have Terrell Owens dumping agent Drew Rosenhaus. Owens would be the second marquee player to fire Rosenhaus in a week. Javon Walker, who threatened a holdout before reporting to the Packers, dismissed the outspoken agent last week.
:yay Now maybe we can keep 81 next season!!
Don't count on it.
Quote from: DemonchildrenOnTurf on December 10, 2005, 01:58:45 PM
Quote from: MURP on December 10, 2005, 11:47:09 AM
for whatever it's worth, Mike Harmon on Yahoo sports wrote:
QuoteAnd, since we're on the topic of disgruntled players, the latest reports have Terrell Owens dumping agent Drew Rosenhaus. Owens would be the second marquee player to fire Rosenhaus in a week. Javon Walker, who threatened a holdout before reporting to the Packers, dismissed the outspoken agent last week.
:yay Now maybe we can keep 81 next season!!
I dunno about all that but you just never know. If he's experienced some super natural form personal enlightenment and gives a sincere, honest effort to mend things with the team/Reid/McNabb. Then maybe.
My guess though is that he did this realizing that Rosenhaus simply didn't get the job done that he hired him to do and that teams are not going to want to deal with him next year. I say this was done just so he can try and save a little face and hope that teams are more willing to deal with him once the Eagles release him.
So has anyone seen anything else that actually confirms if TO fired Rosenpuke? I haven't seen anything on ESPN or Sportsline. Just wondering if this is true or was it just a rumor?
Quote from: Sgt PSN on December 11, 2005, 03:00:11 PM
So has anyone seen anything else that actually confirms if TO fired Rosenpuke? I haven't seen anything on ESPN or Sportsline. Just wondering if this is true or was it just a rumor?
If it were true... Dan Rather would have come out of retirement to report it on CBS News with live reporters and coverage at that guy's house, at Rosenpuke's house and outside of a gay bar in Detroit for Garthia's reaction.
Since that hasn't happened yet... I call BS.
and now Grady Jackson.
QuoteWBAY.com reports Green Bay Packers DT Grady Jackson has dropped Drew Rosenhaus as his agent. His new agent is Angelo Wright. Rosenhaus' image has taken a hit after his handling of WR Terrell Owens' situation, and Jackson felt it was time for a change. "It's more, I'm looking toward the future and all what's been going on, and I don't need that right now going into contract negotiations," Jackson explained, "and I just wanted to go in on a positive note."
Trade me, bitches! (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2361969)
QuoteWalker said he's expressed his feelings to new Packers coach Mike McCarthy, while his agent, CSMG Sports' Kennard McGuire, has asked general manager Ted Thompson, as did former Walker agent Drew Rosenhaus, to deal Walker or allow them to pursue a trade. Thompson on Wednesday denied the requests.
"I just don't feel like this is the best place for me to be right now," said Walker, 27, preparing to enter his sixth pro season. "I really have no interest in being in a Green Bay Packers uniform or playing for Green Bay again."
Citing recent contract squabbles with running back Ahman Green, tight end Bubba Franks, defensive lineman Grady Jackson and cornerback Mike McKenzie, as well as his own, Walker added, "I just don't like the way the organization runs itself. They want players to come up there and play hard and work hard, but when it comes time to be compensated, it's like, 'We forgot what you've done.'"
Get Walker?
Is he healthy? Would the Eagles take on a player who is showing TOlike tendencies? How much money does he want?
Rod Hood and a 3rd round pick?
1. In 2002 the Eagles liked him a lot. That wasn't a Modrak draft either. That was Year 1 of Reid and Heckert.
2. He has extensive WCO knowledge.
3. The Eagles have a WR need
4. The Eagles have money to spend and picks and players to trade.
5. And he does in fact workout with Donovan in Arizona (http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/news/eaglesQuotesDetail.jsp?id=27113)
QuoteIt's not just for the guys who we have on our team going down to Arizona. You have other guys, like (Green Bay Packers WR) Javon Walker comes down. I've had calls from other receivers and defensive backs to come down and get some work.
GET WALKER.
Uh... **thinking**...Yeah, OK.. sure, I guess so. Let's GET WALKER!
Walker, if he is cut or traded, is going to cost an arm and a leg. If it is the trade route, the only way the Packers trade him for little to nothing is if he has a MeO moment. If the Eagles can screw Green Bay and get him in the process, I'm all for it, but if he wants a huge, high-end number one (50-70+mil) contract with all the trimmings (huge bonus) coming off that injury, etc., no thanks. If they can get him in here with an incentive laden deal, something simliar to what Wayne got, but with some more of the money tied to incentives, he'd be a pretty good catch. Using Hood in something like this would make a lot of sense.
First... the Pack ain't gonna cut him. It'll have to be a trade deal. The thing is... that coming off a torn ACL, his trade value and his negotiating power are probably relatively low. He'll still get paid... and he deserves to be... but I don't think he's looking for any record deals or anything. His gripe in GB is legitimate IMO... he's still working off his rookie contract and had become one of the top WR's around before his injury. Peanuts. I think a deal similar to what Wayne got (or even a little less, due to his injury) would be plenty.
As for the Pack... I'd definitely slide them Hood and a 4th, maybe a 3rd. He's only 27 and can provide the Eagles a deadly combination along with Brown on the outside.
Quote from: EagleFeva on March 10, 2006, 07:09:12 AM
I think a deal similar to what Wayne got (or even a little less, due to his injury) would be plenty.
Wayne is the 3rd highest paid WR in the game of football. Giving Walker a similar deal wouldn't exactly be getting much of a discount in consideration of the post-ACL effect.
Damn... he is isn't he, with TO no longer being up there? Guess the Colts luv them sum WR's.
Still... I would offer Walker a little less... say $28-32 mill, $7 mill SB... with injury incentives to protect us incase that knee doesn't hold up.
Either way... it would appear that Walker would be the best WR option to present itself this year. It'll cost some change... but it's a chance to solidify a formidable WR corps for years.
Would be more than nice to get him, but that's tough for me to see realistically happening. Doesn't mean it couldn't...but it's just tough to envision the circumstances that would get that done.
The real question is not about money but about what compensation the Packers would take for Walker, a former first round pick. Would they take a 3rd in 2006 with a conditional 2007 pick based on performance? I dunno.
I don't want to lose Hood. He's proven to be a solid nickel corner. Do any of us really trust in Ware or Wynn?
No. We're not giving them another nickel CB to put into their starting lineup.
I would give up a second for Walker if he's healthy.
Or the money Reno, Wilbur and two 4ths package.
w00t
Quote from: rjs246 on March 10, 2006, 11:45:42 AM
I would give up a second for Walker if he's healthy.
No doubt, but that's why I'd rather only give up the 3rd up-front and then a conditional pick that could go as high as a 2nd for 2007. That way, the compensation is more than fair no matter what happens.
Wilbur > Walker
seriously though, is Walker completely healthy? Who says if the Eagles opted to trade for him that he'd stop being a whiny bitch?
Quote from: Mad-Lad on March 10, 2006, 12:37:07 PM
Wilbur > Walker
seriously though, is Walker completely healthy? Who says if the Eagles opted to trade for him that he'd stop being a whiny bitch?
1. You trade for him and immediately re-do his contract.
2. He's worked out with Donovan in the off-season and knows the offensive system.
3. It would seem most star receivers are whiny bitches of some sort, but the Eagles at least have experience there.
so...
is he completely healthy?
Quote from: Mad-Lad on March 10, 2006, 12:50:07 PM
so...
is he completely healthy?
How the farg am I supposed to know?
I'm as much a doctor as you are a black man.
Damn, now I wish I went to med school. :boom
Quote from: EagleFeva on March 10, 2006, 01:42:04 PM
Damn, now I wish I went to med school. :boom
Why, so you could say, "I'm both a doctor and a black man. What do I win?"
No... actually cuz I heart Dr. Preston Burke on Grey's Anatomy. I like to call him, "McSoul".
(http://www.greys-anatomy.com/imgs/1/ep101_12_240x360.jpeg)
That's Terrence Bridge from Wild Things 2.
I said "MCSOUL" DAMMIT!
Packers | Walker wants out; doesn't plan to show up to training camp
Fri, 10 Mar 2006 09:53:39 -0800
Updating ongoing reports, Michael Smith, of ESPN.com, reports Green Bay Packers WR Javon Walker (knee) has no interest in playing for the Packers again. Walker said he has expressed his feelings to head coach Mike McCarthy and his agent, Kennard McGuire, has asked general manager Ted Thompson to deal Walker to another team. "I just don't feel like this is the best place for me to be right now," Walker said, who doesn't plan to show up for training camp. "If I had to go back there, I'd retire. I don't have to play," Walker noted while also stating he'd be willing to repay a portion of his signing bonus. The source of the bitterness is the team's refusal to discuss his contract, which has one year remaining. However, Walker said money is not the issue at this point.
Quote from: EagleFeva on March 10, 2006, 04:04:33 PM
Packers | Walker wants out; doesn't plan to show up to training camp
Fri, 10 Mar 2006 09:53:39 -0800
Updating ongoing reports, Michael Smith, of ESPN.com, reports Green Bay Packers WR Javon Walker (knee) has no interest in playing for the Packers again. Walker said he has expressed his feelings to head coach Mike McCarthy and his agent, Kennard McGuire, has asked general manager Ted Thompson to deal Walker to another team. "I just don't feel like this is the best place for me to be right now," Walker said, who doesn't plan to show up for training camp. "If I had to go back there, I'd retire. I don't have to play," Walker noted while also stating he'd be willing to repay a portion of his signing bonus. The source of the bitterness is the team's refusal to discuss his contract, which has one year remaining. However, Walker said money is not the issue at this point.
Way to find a blurb that paraphrases the exact info that had already been given and nothing new. :yay
Maybe I should have bolded the part in the title about him refusing to show up to camp.
Maybe I should go masturbate to the thought of the Eagles trading for Walker now.
Quote from: EagleFeva on March 10, 2006, 04:56:26 PM
Maybe I should have bolded the part in the title about him refusing to show up to camp.
That was in the article on ESPN first thing this morning.
You don't like the gay jokes, yet, you always talk about masturbating and shooting a load and what not. You know what, I think you're a closeted homosexual.
I don't 'have a probloem' with gay jokes. I just think they are horribly unoriginal and require zero effort. I'm only asking that you try harder. Ass.
your mom's gay?
Quote from: FFatPatt on March 10, 2006, 04:59:30 PM
Quote from: EagleFeva on March 10, 2006, 04:56:26 PM
Maybe I should have bolded the part in the title about him refusing to show up to camp.
That was in the article on ESPN first thing this morning.
Never read the article. Cool.
Quote from: MDS on March 10, 2006, 05:00:10 PM
You don't like the gay jokes, yet, you always talk about masturbating and shooting a load and what not. You know what, I think you're a closeted homosexual.
(http://www.jrj-socrates.com/Cartoon%20Pics/Misc/South%20Park/Mr._Hat_300.gif)
I think this settles it. rjs likes having guys cream in his face.
I can always count on you to swing big and miss, MDS.
Quote from: MDS on March 10, 2006, 05:14:23 PM
I think this settles it. rjs likes having guys cream in his face.
Yeah, but at least he knows what it feels like to put his own cream on a girl's face. Thus far in life, I'm sure you've only dreamed of doing that while you stare at paparazzi photos of Natalie Portman and Rachel Weisz.
Quote from: MadMarchHare on March 10, 2006, 09:50:52 AM
I don't want to lose Hood. He's proven to be a solid nickel corner. Do any of us really trust in Ware or Wynn?
I didn't want to lose Hood either. I've argued against it a lot this offseason. But if GB says they want Hood for Walker then I give him up. He will be a UFA after this year and will not re-sign here. He wants to start. The only way I give him up is for Walker.
And if he is gone, then you sign/draft another CB to compete with Ware and Strickland for #3 CB.
Quote from: FFatPatt on March 10, 2006, 05:18:51 PM
Quote from: MDS on March 10, 2006, 05:14:23 PM
I think this settles it. rjs likes having guys cream in his face.
Yeah, but at least he knows what it feels like to put his own cream on a girl's face. Thus far in life, I'm sure you've only dreamed of doing that while you stare at paparazzi photos of Natalie Portman and Rachel Weisz.
bea arthur and estelle geddy, dork.
Team basketball.
Get Walker.
Someone on the EMB said ESPN radio reported that we offered Hollis and a 3rd for Walker...
Quote from: Die-Hard on March 12, 2006, 09:47:28 PM
Someone on the EMB said ESPN radio reported that we offered Hollis and a 3rd for Walker...
I hear it's a done deal....nah...just kidding, I hate the farging phrase anymore.
I hope that rumor is true though.
If they take Hollis and a 3rd for Walker the Eagles should be indicted for farging highway robbery.
Oh hell yea. That would be a sweet deal. Gametime, the dude who posted it has been a member since near the beginning so it holds more water than a n00b making the post.
And we pray? :evil
If that is true and goes through imagine what taterskins fans would think about their Lloyd trade. :-D
Just because they offered it doesn't mean the Packers have accepted. Nor should they for that soft-ass package.
The only thing not hard to believe about that is that the Eagles only offered Hollis and a 3rd for Walker.
BTW, the apparent push to offload Hollis would seem to indicate that they are looking to DT in either FA or the draft. Broderick Bunkley? Ngata (since the Bills just grabbed a DT)?
[rome]I am ejaculating just thinking about it[/rome]
Well the thread isnt there anymore so...
farg. farg, farg, farg, farg, farg, farg, farg.
Quote from: Die-Hard on March 12, 2006, 10:20:48 PM
farg. farg, farg, farg, farg, farg, farg, farg.
Oh well, it was a fun 20 minutes pretending.
is anybody really giving their hearts to any rumors anymore?
Nope. Especially not a 3rd and Hollis.
Quote from: Sun_Mo on March 12, 2006, 10:42:49 PM
is anybody really giving their hearts to any rumors anymore?
Nope, it's like catching your mom going down on Santa Claus on Xmas eve, only to find that Santa is your grandfather dressed up in a red suit.
Packers.com
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Statement From Packers GM Ted Thompson Regarding Javon Walker
posted 03/10/2006
During his time as a Green Bay Packer, Javon Walker has been well thought of by everyone here. I like Javon, certainly as a person and as a player.
That said, Javon is under contract, which he signed as a 2002 first-round draft choice. That contract is governed by the Collective Bargaining Agreement, which was negotiated between the National Football League and the National Football League Players' Association, and we expect him to honor it.
There have been several highly publicized cases of player discontent in the National Football League. I don't anticipate us making any concessions in this matter.
We will continue to stay the course, and the Green Bay Packers will have no further comment on this topic.