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Title: Sunshine, daydream: Looking ahead
Post by: Diomedes on November 15, 2005, 10:20:35 AM
There were some good things in the game last night.  I know the season is over, but I'd like to talk about some of the encouraging things we saw, and daydream a bit.

First and foremost, the Westbrook-Gordon tandem worked very well.  Westbrook is a known commodity; his performance was on par.  Gordon however made me feel football happy at times.  He did a great job of gaining the extra 1 to 3 yards by falling forward.  He ran with some confidence and authority.  Is anyone else thinking that Gordon might become an important factor in the Eagles offense?

Cole was a nice surprise.  He was disruptive AND produced sacks, a combination our DEs haven't been able to boast lately.   I hope he won himself a lot more playing time with this performance.  I can't say I think he's going to be a stud or anything, but no one else is stepping up in that position, so what the hell.  I'll root for the guy.

Akers looked good.  Nevermind the game ending kick...if he had made that kick it would have been beyond remarkable.  The 48 yarder was very solid, though.  And he didn't come up lame afterwards.  It's nice to have him back, and I'm dreaming of future games when we can stop chewing our lips every time the kicker comes out.

Jackson farged up a few snaps, but he recovered as the game progressed.  I'm a Fraley fan, but that doesn't keep me from looking at this new giant of a Center and thinking, boy wouldn't it be nice if this guy could become a dominant mutha..

Anyone else wanna chime in with happy delusions and hopes for the future?
Title: Re: Sunshine, daydream: Looking ahead
Post by: SunMo on November 15, 2005, 10:22:00 AM
i was happy with the running game, you could tell that they practiced it all week, just the way the line blew the Cowboys off the line.  Gordon is a tough inside runner, a good changeup to Westbrook.
Title: Re: Sunshine, daydream: Looking ahead
Post by: Tomahawk on November 15, 2005, 10:53:54 AM
Reggie Brown was able to get open.
Title: Re: Sunshine, daydream: Looking ahead
Post by: Diomedes on November 15, 2005, 10:55:46 AM
Quote from: Tomahawk on November 15, 2005, 10:53:54 AM
Reggie Brown was able to get open.

That's the spirit!  Nevermind that he dropped every other pass his way.  At least the farger got open!
Title: Re: Sunshine, daydream: Looking ahead
Post by: Tomahawk on November 15, 2005, 10:57:46 AM
Quote from: Diomedes on November 15, 2005, 10:55:46 AM
Quote from: Tomahawk on November 15, 2005, 10:53:54 AM
Reggie Brown was able to get open.

That's the spirit!  Nevermind that he dropped every other pass his way.  At least the farger got open!

That's right - one step at a time for the rookie. Baby steps.
Title: Re: Sunshine, daydream: Looking ahead
Post by: BobbyT on November 15, 2005, 11:04:24 AM
My name is BobbyT and I'm an Eagles fan.....


...um......Greg Lewis was able to get separation off the line. :paranoid
Title: Re: Sunshine, daydream: Looking ahead
Post by: Rome on November 15, 2005, 11:12:48 AM
<<< Insert obligatory GEICO reference here... >>>

:P
Title: Re: Sunshine, daydream: Looking ahead
Post by: henchmanUK on November 15, 2005, 11:26:17 AM
Quote from: Tomahawk on November 15, 2005, 10:57:46 AM
Quote from: Diomedes on November 15, 2005, 10:55:46 AM
Quote from: Tomahawk on November 15, 2005, 10:53:54 AM
Reggie Brown was able to get open.

That's the spirit!  Nevermind that he dropped every other pass his way.  At least the farger got open!

That's right - one step at a time for the rookie. Baby steps.

I agree. LJ had his fair share of dropsies in his rookie season.
Title: Re: Sunshine, daydream: Looking ahead
Post by: SunMo on November 15, 2005, 11:29:40 AM
Quote from: henchmanUK on November 15, 2005, 11:26:17 AM
Quote from: Tomahawk on November 15, 2005, 10:57:46 AM
Quote from: Diomedes on November 15, 2005, 10:55:46 AM
Quote from: Tomahawk on November 15, 2005, 10:53:54 AM
Reggie Brown was able to get open.

That's the spirit!  Nevermind that he dropped every other pass his way.  At least the farger got open!

That's right - one step at a time for the rookie. Baby steps.

I agree. LJ had his fair share of dropsies in his rookie season.

exactly, and now he catches the ball, and drops it later.  next year, he should be able to hold on to it for an entire play.
Title: Re: Sunshine, daydream: Looking ahead
Post by: Diomedes on November 15, 2005, 11:30:37 AM
See?  Who says Philly fans are dour and pessimistic?  Just look at all the happy hope here!!
Title: Re: Sunshine, daydream: Looking ahead
Post by: henchmanUK on November 15, 2005, 11:48:00 AM
Quote from: Sun_Mo on November 15, 2005, 11:29:40 AM
Quote from: henchmanUK on November 15, 2005, 11:26:17 AM
Quote from: Tomahawk on November 15, 2005, 10:57:46 AM
Quote from: Diomedes on November 15, 2005, 10:55:46 AM
Quote from: Tomahawk on November 15, 2005, 10:53:54 AM
Reggie Brown was able to get open.

That's the spirit!  Nevermind that he dropped every other pass his way.  At least the farger got open!

That's right - one step at a time for the rookie. Baby steps.

I agree. LJ had his fair share of dropsies in his rookie season.

exactly, and now he catches the ball, and drops it later.  next year, he should be able to hold on to it for an entire play.

:-D
Title: Re: Sunshine, daydream: Looking ahead
Post by: JTrotter Fan on November 15, 2005, 12:02:38 PM
I was very proud of the running game.  They pouned that ball and the Cowboys were in complete shock.  They really had no answer.  Hopefully, they continue to work on that the rest of these meaningless games.
Title: Re: Sunshine, daydream: Looking ahead
Post by: ice grillin you on November 15, 2005, 12:07:53 PM
Cole was a nice surprise.  He was disruptive AND produced sacks, a combination our DEs haven't been able to boast lately.   I hope he won himself a lot more playing time with this performance.  I can't say I think he's going to be a stud or anything, but no one else is stepping up in that position, so what the hell.  I'll root for the guy.

i was on record day of the draft as saying this guy would/will be a pro bowler one day...hes a man...one of the few on this team
Title: Re: Sunshine, daydream: Looking ahead
Post by: SunMo on November 15, 2005, 12:41:45 PM
don't forget Chad... he was a YAC machine last night
Title: Re: Sunshine, daydream: Looking ahead
Post by: PhillyandBCEagles on November 15, 2005, 12:41:53 PM
Get FredEx!!

:paranoid :boom :paranoid :boom :paranoid :boom

Cole and Jackson are both future Pro Bowlers IMO.  I was very impressed with both guys (yeah Jackson messed some things up but that's going to happen when you're making your first ever start).
Title: Re: Sunshine, daydream: Looking ahead
Post by: M-F Cowboys Fan on November 15, 2005, 12:45:19 PM
Quote from: Diomedes on November 15, 2005, 10:20:35 AMI know the season is over, but I'd like to talk about some of the encouraging things we saw, and daydream a bit.

That's an excellent idea. When something bad happens, don't think about it. It could lead to clinical depression if you do think about it. Smart. You will go far.

The Eagles played a better last night. But lost.
Title: Re: Sunshine, daydream: Looking ahead
Post by: Diomedes on November 15, 2005, 12:47:41 PM
Quote from: M-F Cowboys Fan on November 15, 2005, 12:45:19 PMThat's an excellent idea. When something bad happens, don't think about it. It could lead to clinical depression if you do think about it. Smart. You will go far.

The Eagles played a better last night. But lost.

Go away troll.
Title: Re: Sunshine, daydream: Looking ahead
Post by: M-F Cowboys Fan on November 15, 2005, 12:59:30 PM
Quote from: Diomedes on November 15, 2005, 12:47:41 PM
Quote from: M-F Cowboys Fan on November 15, 2005, 12:45:19 PMThat's an excellent idea. When something bad happens, don't think about it. It could lead to clinical depression if you do think about it. Smart. You will go far.

The Eagles played a better last night. But lost.

Go away troll.

I suggest that you go to:

Depression Screening Test (http://www.med.nyu.edu/psych/screens/depres.html)

Take the test. Consider counselling, if you think it may be necessary. You know, a lot of people think that depression is "all in your head." But it isn't. It's very much a physical, chemical problem (http://www.afraidtoask.com/depression/depressionneurobiology.htm), just like breaking your arm.

And always remember two things:

1) It's only a game (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0743417291/qid=1132077367/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/104-4373129-4425520?v=glance&s=books).
2) Things Only Get Better With Love (http://www.eltonography.com/songs/things_only_get_better_with_love.html).
Title: Re: Sunshine, daydream: Looking ahead
Post by: Diomedes on November 15, 2005, 01:00:24 PM
You're a troll.  Leave.
Title: Re: Sunshine, daydream: Looking ahead
Post by: BigEd76 on November 15, 2005, 01:03:00 PM
What does it say about Fraley when a converted tackle from the practice squad did a better job than he did at any point this season?
Title: Re: Sunshine, daydream: Looking ahead
Post by: rjs246 on November 15, 2005, 01:03:06 PM
Greg Lewis looked good blocking downfield in the running game.
Westbrook and Gordon looked like a legit 1-2 punch. Exactly what I would want from them. If we don't keep Gordon after this season AR should have his farging head examined.
Cole had a nice night. I don't put a lot of stock in players who get sacks in bunches and do nothing ther est of the time so I'll wait and see, but very nice night.
Westbrook should be returning every punt. Period.
Title: Re: Sunshine, daydream: Looking ahead
Post by: ice grillin you on November 15, 2005, 01:04:05 PM
What does it say about Fraley when a converted tackle from the practice squad did a better job than he did at any point this season?

probably the same thing it says about the coach whos started him the last five years
Title: Re: Sunshine, daydream: Looking ahead
Post by: General_Failure on November 15, 2005, 01:04:50 PM
I guess it means calling the blocking assignments isn't as important as being able to run block against a 3-4.
Title: Re: Sunshine, daydream: Looking ahead
Post by: General_Failure on November 15, 2005, 01:06:32 PM
I have to question splitting Chad out wide, even if it did work for one play. Let the big guy stroll through the middle of the field and let him catch & roll.
Title: Re: Sunshine, daydream: Looking ahead
Post by: M-F Cowboys Fan on November 15, 2005, 01:07:38 PM
Quote from: Diomedes on November 15, 2005, 01:00:24 PM
You're a troll.  Leave.

I'm just trying to help. I'm sorry if I'm not doing a good job. I'm not a trained psychologist, just an amateur doing my best to try and comfort and help all of you in your time of grief. If I'm not helping very much, perhaps a professional psychologist would do better. They can hook you up with drugs, you know. Make all your troubles go away. *Poof.* Just like that.

And the Eagles did play a much better game than the Cowboys. Dominated the trenches on both sides of the field. Dominated the running game on both sides of the field.
Title: Re: Sunshine, daydream: Looking ahead
Post by: SunMo on November 15, 2005, 01:08:34 PM
Quote from: General_Failure on November 15, 2005, 01:06:32 PM
I have to question splitting Chad out wide, even if it did work for one play. Let the big guy stroll through the middle of the field and let him catch & roll.

i think that was more to get the linebacker out of the middle of the field, except they started not to cover him so Donovan threw it to him and let those Mormon legs go to work.
Title: Re: Sunshine, daydream: Looking ahead
Post by: Diomedes on November 15, 2005, 01:09:37 PM
Quote from: M-F Cowboys Fan on November 15, 2005, 01:07:38 PMI'm just trying to help.

Then get out.  That would help.
Title: Re: Sunshine, daydream: Looking ahead
Post by: General_Failure on November 15, 2005, 01:11:20 PM
Quote from: Sun_Mo on November 15, 2005, 01:08:34 PM
Quote from: General_Failure on November 15, 2005, 01:06:32 PM
I have to question splitting Chad out wide, even if it did work for one play. Let the big guy stroll through the middle of the field and let him catch & roll.

i think that was more to get the linebacker out of the middle of the field, except they started not to cover him so Donovan threw it to him and let those Mormon legs go to work.

He's at the 30! The 31! The 32!
Title: Re: Sunshine, daydream: Looking ahead
Post by: M-F Cowboys Fan on November 15, 2005, 01:17:16 PM
Quote from: Diomedes on November 15, 2005, 01:09:37 PMThen get out.  That would help.

Why so hostile?

Calm yourself.

(http://buddhism.kalachakranet.org/images/dalai_lama_meditating.jpg)

As I said, I'm not a trained psychologist, so I can't diagnose... But I suspect you may also be suffering from something else: bigotry. You can't stand to even see other people who belong to a certain class. Commonly people who suffer this affliction are bigoted against people of other races, religions, gay people, etc, but I think you can also be bigoted against Cowboys fans.

Don't get me wrong though: you have freedom of assocation rights under the 1st amendment. You have a right to be a bigot. But do you really want to be? Do you have children? What will they think of you?
Title: Re: Sunshine, daydream: Looking ahead
Post by: Diomedes on November 15, 2005, 01:18:30 PM
You are trolling.  Seriously, go away.
Title: Re: Sunshine, daydream: Looking ahead
Post by: WEST is GOD on November 15, 2005, 03:41:01 PM
Quote from: BigEd76 on November 15, 2005, 01:03:00 PM
What does it say about Fraley when a converted tackle from the practice squad did a better job than he did at any point this season?

Jackson did a very nice job. Let's see how he does the rest of the season and if he does great, he should be our future. I'm not a Fraley fan.
Title: Re: Sunshine, daydream: Looking ahead
Post by: bobbyinlondon on November 16, 2005, 09:37:08 AM
Quote from: rjs246 on November 15, 2005, 01:03:06 PM
Greg Lewis looked good blocking downfield in the running game.
Westbrook and Gordon looked like a legit 1-2 punch. Exactly what I would want from them. If we don't keep Gordon after this season AR should have his farging head examined.
Cole had a nice night. I don't put a lot of stock in players who get sacks in bunches and do nothing ther est of the time so I'll wait and see, but very nice night.
Westbrook should be returning every punt. Period.


When they claimed Gordon off of waivers, Reid said he'd always liked how he ran with the ball and how he caught it out of the backfield. Now the question becomes--if Gordon impresses enough from now until Dec 31st (that's the date that extension would have to be signed by, I believe) would the Eagles sign him to at least a 2 year deal? Then you could have a Gordon-Westbrook-Moats combo, although I wonder when Moats is going to get the chance to show what he can do?

I was impressed with the job Jackson did--although I agree with another poster and we should see what he can do the rest of the season. If it's determined that McNabb has to miss the rest of the year, the running game will be MORE than a significant part of the offense.
Title: Re: Sunshine, daydream: Looking ahead
Post by: General_Failure on November 16, 2005, 01:13:30 PM
Moats was drafted as insurance in case Westbrook got hurt or didn't resign. If he can't get ahead of Reno on the depth chart at any point this season I'm not going to hold on to any hope that he's going to be good.
Title: Re: Sunshine, daydream: Looking ahead
Post by: Butchers Bill on November 16, 2005, 01:15:12 PM
Quote from: General_Failure on November 16, 2005, 01:13:30 PM
If he can't get ahead of Reno on the depth chart at any point this season I'm not going to hold on to any hope that he's going to be good.

Mahe has polaroids of Andy with a goat.   :paranoid
Title: Re: Sunshine, daydream: Looking ahead
Post by: Feva on November 16, 2005, 01:31:51 PM
Quote from: General_Failure on November 16, 2005, 01:13:30 PM
If he can't get ahead of Reno on the depth chart at any point this season I'm not going to hold on to any hope that he's going to be good.
You're looking down on Moats because he's not a Mormon?  For shame, Doc.  :boo
Title: Re: Sunshine, daydream: Looking ahead
Post by: Feva on November 16, 2005, 01:35:03 PM
Quote from: General_Failure on November 15, 2005, 01:11:20 PM
Quote from: Sun_Mo on November 15, 2005, 01:08:34 PM
Quote from: General_Failure on November 15, 2005, 01:06:32 PM
I have to question splitting Chad out wide, even if it did work for one play. Let the big guy stroll through the middle of the field and let him catch & roll.

i think that was more to get the linebacker out of the middle of the field, except they started not to cover him so Donovan threw it to him and let those Mormon legs go to work.

He's at the 30! The 31! The 32!

Also, Team Chad doesn't appreciate your implying that #89 doesn't have blazing, breakaway speed.  Not cool.
Title: Re: Sunshine, daydream: Looking ahead
Post by: General_Failure on November 16, 2005, 01:38:59 PM
The catch and roll is so effective because it gets him positive YAC faster than running does.
Title: Re: Sunshine, daydream: Looking ahead
Post by: Eaglez on November 16, 2005, 09:27:28 PM
Jackson did well, but I wish that the O-Line had a bit more continuity. They just couldn't get on the same snap count way too many times. It really was irritating.
Title: Re: Sunshine, daydream: Looking ahead
Post by: Diomedes on November 16, 2005, 10:42:37 PM
Runyan was lousy with the false starts.  But that's all the realistic stuff.  And this thread isn't about that.  It's about fantasy, and hope.  Like this:  I hope Jackson turns into the greatest center in the league by the end of this year.

See?  The imagination is a powerful thing.
Title: Re: Sunshine, daydream: Looking ahead
Post by: Purple_Hayz on November 16, 2005, 11:13:59 PM
In that vein, would asking for the defense to get its shtein together and stop sucking so bad be too much? :D
Title: Re: Sunshine, daydream: Looking ahead
Post by: LBIggle on November 17, 2005, 04:55:26 AM
anybody know fraleys contract status?
Title: Re: Sunshine, daydream: Looking ahead
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on November 17, 2005, 05:41:18 AM
I believe Hank is signed through 2006. I'll have to check when I get home.