Let's take a break from looking at the bad from last night and look at the good. The yound WRs all played very nicely last night.
Reggie Brown - He was matched up on Shawn Springs on that shallow cross and he out ran Sean Taylor to the end-zone. He also had a very nice catch and run on that final drive. He finished with 5 receptions for 94 yards and a touchdown. He's certainly breaking that rookie WR stigma, IMO. You've got to credit him for staying in the playbook and learning it and not acting like he's all world before he's done anything like our last high draft pick WR who was here. If Reggie continues to develop like this then I think we all should have something to look forward to.
Billy McMullen - I think I might be the only one who hasn't written this guy off yet. We all know the history with him. McNabb calls him "hands" his first year and once that pass bounced off his shoulder pads in that loss to Dallas in 2003 he disappeared. He's had confidence issues and all that stuff too. But he's got size and I know it's cliche, but you can't teach size. That seam route he ran (same pattern in the SD game too) was very nice and Theismann and Maguire (shocking!) made a nice observation that he didn't look back too early to give away the ball coming to him. He's got his confidence up and he showed nice hands last night as well. Look at the way he catches the ball....he is not a body catcher. He gets his hands out in front of him and plucks it out of the air. He had 3 catches for 60 yards.
Greg Lewis - Yeah, he's technically the "#1 WR" now and he's no Todd Pinkston as far as stretching the field goes. But he does good things in the underneath routes, which Todd cannot or does not like to do. In my opinion he's a good possession type receiver.
These 3 guys are very encouraging to me. Even if the team fails to reach the playoffs this year these guys getting a lot of playing time is a good thing.
I am looking forward to watching Brown & McMullen play each week. I think we should particularly be excited about Reggie.
You couldn't have asked for a better night from the WR's. If they play like that every week, we'll be fine.
I was really impressed with McMullen. Those catches he made weren't easy catches, but he made them look easy. Wish we would've given him another chance in the end zone at the end of the game, though.
i'm not as impressed with Greg Lewis as you are Phreak. I expected him to be the deep threat that Pinkston was last year, because all you ever heard was that he was the fastest guy on the team, but he just hasn't shown that ability to fight for the ball once it's in the air like Pinkston has. Also, he's had some bad drops this year. That ball that they called incomplete that got reviewed hit him right in the chest and he should've caught it easily.
I agree with you on Brown though, it looks like they might have something with him.
QuoteI think I might be the only one who hasn't written this guy off yet.
I'm the biggest McMullen fan ever.
I was impressed with Wilbur last night as well, which was surprising. If he can somehow keep his head together and build some confidence from last night, we could have something there.
Reggie showed something that I needed to see to ease my mind with this TO crap and that is the ability to run after the catch. HUGE.
I agree that Greg Lewis seems like nothing more than a possession receiver right now. That completely sucks given that he was supposed to be a burner for them.
I'm not sure that this has the potential to be an elite group but the Brown, Lewis, McMullen, McCants groups has some size and ability and that's pretty promising.
Quote from: Sun_Mo on November 07, 2005, 12:50:47 PM
i'm not as impressed with Greg Lewis as you are Phreak. I expected him to be the deep threat that Pinkston was last year, because all you ever heard was that he was the fastest guy on the team, but he just hasn't shown that ability to fight for the ball once it's in the air like Pinkston has. Also, he's had some bad drops this year. That ball that they called incomplete that got reviewed hit him right in the chest and he should've caught it easily.
I agree with you on Brown though, it looks like they might have something with him.
Here's my thing on Lewis...
Yes, i am disappointed that he is not the down-the-field guy that we thought he'd be. But maybe he just hasn't developed that part of his game yet? After all he still is just a 3rd year UDFA in his first year of starting. Perhaps, with more work, he'll develop the ability to be a deep threat.
But even if he is not that type of guy, I still like the possession skills that he's showing. I also like the fact that he can and will take a big hit and still hold the ball. He's a slight build but he has no beef with going into the land of LBs and Ss and grabbing a ball.
Every team needs that possession type guy. I think of Wayne Chrebet, Brandon Stokely, Keyshawn Johnson and other guys who aren't exactly big play guys but who move the chains. And on a predominantly passing team - they need that.
2006:
1 - (free agent signing)
2 - Todd Pinkston (if that achilles heals)
3 - Reggie Brown
4 - Greg Lewis
5 - Billy McMullen
6 - Darnerian McCants
Not too shabby, IMO.
Reggie Brown is coming along nicely. McMullen... meh. He played well for 1 game in his career. Lets hope its the start of something but im not holding my breath. Greg Lewis, well I think he is better suited as a #3. Not a bad player, but just very average. I expected more out of him. I feel like we are always waiting and hoping that the Eagles WR's will become something special. I mean, the Eagles havnt drafted a WR that turned into anything special since Fred Barnett and Calvin Williams. I think we have these talks every year about how the young WR's are looking good and we get a little excited about it. Then they end up sucking every single time. Even the FA's have been blah. If we had this board back in the early 90's we could have started there.
Maybe Victor Bailey will be good. nah
Maybe Chris T Joneswill be good.. nah
Maybe Na Brown will be good. nah
Maybe Todd Pinkston will be good. ehhhhhh
Maybe Freddie Mitchell will be good. nah
Maybe Freddie Milons will be good. nah
Maybe Billy McMullen will be good. certainly not yet.
Maybe Antonio Freeman will be good. meh
Maybe Charles Johnson will be good. meh
Maybe Torrance Small will be good. meh
and all the others that have come and gone. Irving Fryar was decent for the short time he was here. I feel like it is groundhog day with the WR's every year. They show some promise, then never pan out. I guess if you try enough you have to get it right sometime. Maybe this crop can do it, but I wont believe it until I see it.
i seem to remember Chris T. Jones being pretty good before he had a serious injury?
there only fa wr worthy of a 1 label is reggie wayne. and hes not even that good. id rather spend our money on the oline and defense. with mcnabb, westbrook and lj, we can be fine with a young group of recievers (pink, reg, glew, wilbur).
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on November 07, 2005, 01:42:50 PM
2006:
1 - (free agent signing)
2 - Todd Pinkston (if that achilles heals)
3 - Reggie Brown
4 - Greg Lewis
5 - Billy McMullen
6 - Darnerian McCants
Not too shabby, IMO.
Terrible pun on the achilles. Just terrible.
If Brown continues to show RAC ability he should be starting. I like Pinkston as a guy to stretch the field, but we can do better as far as starting WRs go so I'm not sure I want him back since he is pretty much a one-trick pony. Whatever. 8 games left in this season. might be a little early to talk about next year's receiving corps.
Quote from: Sun_Mo on November 07, 2005, 01:45:08 PM
i seem to remember Chris T. Jones being pretty good before he had a serious injury?
yep, he had one pretty good season and then he was hurt and gone. typical.
I like what I saw from the young guys last night but I would like to see it two weeks in a row ::)
Quote from: rjs246 on November 07, 2005, 01:48:12 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on November 07, 2005, 01:42:50 PM
2006:
1 - (free agent signing)
2 - Todd Pinkston (if that achilles heals)
3 - Reggie Brown
4 - Greg Lewis
5 - Billy McMullen
6 - Darnerian McCants
Not too shabby, IMO.
Terrible pun on the achilles. Just terrible.
If Brown continues to show RAC ability he should be starting. I like Pinkston as a guy to stretch the field, but we can do better as far as starting WRs go so I'm not sure I want him back since he is pretty much a one-trick pony. Whatever. 8 games left in this season. might be a little early to talk about next year's receiving corps.
:-D
I didn't even realize the pun when I typed it.
It is too early to talk about it. Especially since this one ain't over yet. But I like what Brown is showing. And you know Todd gets his starting job back. That's Andy's boy. But I hope that Brown continues to show us something.
i am sitting here trying to figure out what gave people these high expectations of Greg Lewis?
i've been fine with him so far this year. maybe because i really didnt expect any more than 2 catches a game or so. he's not really anything worth praising over the entire course of a season, but at the same time, he isn't a bad reciever either.
he's basically your average NFL WR. a good backup, who can fill in when needed, and make a big play every once in a while.
I said in the mid-season grades thread that Billy and Reggie are bright spots on this O. I feel good saying that mostly because our expectations for them are pretty low, but I think they've both already surpassed them.
I desperately want TO gone so that we can see 8 full games from Reggie as the starter, with McMullen in for 3 WR sets.
Regarding G.Lew, I am not in any way dissappointed in him. I knew when Pink went down that we had lost the deep threat, and I said so at the time. G.Lew doesn't provide that. But his possession skills are fine, and don't forget: he was a rookie free agent. Signed cheap for the long term, every catch he makes is money in the bank.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on November 07, 2005, 01:42:50 PM
2006:
1 - (free agent signing)
2 - Todd Pinkston (if that achilles heals)
3 - Reggie Brown
4 - Greg Lewis
5 - Billy McMullen
6 - Darnerian McCants
Not too shabby, IMO.
You really think they'll bring an a receiver?
I don't, and I can't see the F/O getting into a bidding war for Wayne.
Any decent prospects out there this season?
Also, I know Javon Walker's injured and his agent is Drewcifer, but he's been unhappy with his contract in GB and he'd be a perfect fit for this O.
Let's see how Reggie, Greg, Billy, and even Darnerien look for the next 8 games. If the WR group basically plays as well as they did last night through the rest of the season, just adding Pinkston back gives a decent group.
The team needs better depth at TE and definitely needs some changes on the OL. I think that group of WR's, along with a healthy McNabb, and Westbrook... can form an effective offense. Last night, the offense would have been a juggernaut if they could have run blocked in mediocre fashion, instead of crap-ass ugly nasty zesty.
Don't kid yourself, guys.
Nazis in clown costumes. They may be funny, but they're still evil.
Put McMullen on the outside, Glew in the slot. All problems solved.
BTW, did McCants even play yesterday? Maybe we need to bring back Perez.
Quote from: Larry on November 07, 2005, 06:52:57 PM
Put McMullen on the outside, Glew in the slot. All problems solved.
BTW, did McCants even play yesterday? Maybe we need to bring back Perez.
I saw him on offense towards the goal line, and he made a nice tackle on ST.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on November 07, 2005, 05:38:27 PM
Also, I know Javon Walker's injured and his agent is Drewcifer, but he's been unhappy with his contract in GB and he'd be a perfect fit for this O.
Trade TO to Green Bay for Walker. Then TO can have his perfect season with Saint Favre.
Quote from: Larry on November 07, 2005, 06:52:57 PM
BTW, did McCants even play yesterday? Maybe we need to bring back Perez.
Paging phattymatty...
Loved what Reggie Brown did yesterday. Hopefully he's an up-and-comer. :yay
I loved the YAC Reggie brought. Good hands too. :yay
I don't really know if Todd will be back next year. An Achilles injury for a WR might be hard to come back from. If anything he's going to have to fight for his starting position back.
Man, watching the Colts game I just keep telling myself that we could have easily had Wayne but instead took Hollywood...
Damn.
mcmullet and brown each had a good play. im not ready to blow my load on them just yet. hopefully they keep improving.
Quote from: Eaglez on November 07, 2005, 10:23:07 PMwe could have easily had Wayne but instead took Hollywood
I would've taken Chad Johnson instead....
and Steve Smith
I think our receivers would be better if we ran the ball effectively. Even if we only run the ball 15 times a game, if you chew up yards you at least make the play action more effective.
[team reggie] I think Reggie Brown will be every bit as good as TO. By this time next year we'll be saying "T-WHO?" [/team reggie]
the problem with getting a stud reciever is that you almost always have to draft and develop them. look around the league and it's hard to find a #1 reciever that has switched teams (except TO and Moss of course) or a #2 that has gone to another team and turned into a #1.
so, the only real way to get a stud WR is to draft well and develop well, not exactly the Eagles' strong point.
Quote from: Sun_Mo on November 08, 2005, 08:54:15 AM
the problem with getting a stud reciever is that you almost always have to draft and develop them. look around the league and it's hard to find a #1 reciever that has switched teams (except TO and Moss of course) or a #2 that has gone to another team and turned into a #1.
so, the only real way to get a stud WR is to draft well and develop well, not exactly the Eagles' strong point.
Goddammit! Reggie Brown looks good! He's got OK size. He's shown RAC ability. Good hands. Good speed. Is anyone listening?! He isn't a world beater yet, but I think this dude could turn into a number one. Am I completely alone on this?
lewis is a #3 at best...im still trying to figure out when where and how he got the stretch the field label...the guy isnt and never was that fast...to me he was always a good route runner who would catch the ball if thrown to...a quicker freddie mitchell
hard to say what they got with reggie brown...lets hope for the best and that is for him to become one of the best #2's in the league...i see no #1 in him
as a whole they are right back to where they were pre TO and that is needing a clear #1 guy...i dont see that happening anytime soon...so ill be happy to have a healthy pinky back....a developed reggie brown...greg lewis and another young guy that has potential at the #4 spot
get mcmullen and mccants outta here and fill their spots with young potential ladened guys
Reggie is showing by far the most hope of any Eagles draft pick at WR in 20 years or so. I think it is very important that Lewis makes a small stride or two forward and that McMullen doesn't forget where he placed his hands again. If Reggie continues to be pushed by those two guys, he could be very, very good.
Way too early to tell, but his catch and run and his broken tackle on the WR screen on Sunday night were encouraging.
I agree with RJS in regards to Reggie Brown. Very promising. Could be a No. 1 in the future for sure. I was impressed with Wilbur too. I just hope he gets his chance now. The FO made a mistake in cutting Brian Finneran after one bad game and I hope they don't make the same mistake with McMullen.
i think its hard to pass judgement yet on glewis and reggie brown. this is really there first year, reggies first game starting. this has really only been the first game where McNabb looked healthy. McNabbs ability to throw the ball effects the performance of these receivers. we havn't seen alot of deep balls period because of the injury. im not gonna say glewis isn't a deep ball threat, because i think he can be and have seen it last year. Reggie Brown i think can definetly be a #1 receiver with his play last week. He burned everyone...I was shocked to see he had speed like that...i didn't think he could burn people. McMullen I agree, has shown some confidence lately and is a TO clone. If he can get his shtein together, hes got alot of potential, no better time than now for this. Everyone needs to step-up. oh and farg TO :fire
the FA WR's for next year.
Quote
Paul Domowitch | 2006 free-agent WR pickings slim
NO MATTER how the next 8 weeks shake out, no matter how well or how poorly Greg Lewis, Reggie Brown and Billy McMullen play between now and the end of the season, anyone
remotely familiar with Andy
Reidspeak knows exactly what the Eagles coach is going to say about his wide-receiving corps in his end-of-the-season eulogy.
He's going to say the same thing he said about Charles Johnson and
Torrance Small, the same thing he said about James Thrash and Todd Pinkston. He's going to say that Lewis and Brown and McMullen and Pinkston, who has missed the entire season with a ruptured Achilles' tendon, are good enough to win a Super Bowl with.
Maybe he'll mean it and maybe he won't. But that will be his
story and he'll be sticking to it. At least until the start of the
free-agency signing period on March 1.
I have some bad news, though, for those of you who are going to be expecting the Eagles to get out Jeff Lurie's checkbook and sign another wideout with the same Pro Bowl pedigree as the dearly departed Terrell Owens.
He ain't going to be there.
Because most NFL teams now make it a top priority to re-sign their own top players rather than overpay someone else's, there are precious few top-of-the-line players who make it to the open market anymore. They are either re-signed or get the franchise-player tag placed on them, which effectively prevents another team from making them an
offer.
Even at this early juncture,
the list of prospective free-agent wide receivers is not terribly impressive. While there certainly are several wideouts who could help a team like the Eagles, there isn't a single No. 1 receiver in the bunch.
If you're looking for somebody like the Panthers' Steve Smith or the Bengals' Chad Johnson or the Rams' Torry Holt or the Colts' Marvin Harrison, go play "Madden 2005'' or try to get them in your next fantasy football draft.
"There aren't any studs out there,'' an NFC pro personnel
director said of the potential '06 crop of free-agent wide receivers. "There are a few guys who can help a team. But as far as
legitimate No. 1, difference-making wideouts, I don't see any of those.''
According to several scouts, the three top prospective free-agent wide receivers next March figure to be New England's
David Givens, Indianapolis'
Reggie Wayne and Pittsburgh's Antwaan Randle El.
"All three of them are good,
solid players,'' an AFC pro scout said. "But they're not Owens or [Randy] Moss or Harrison.
They're good No. 2 guys. The problem is, somebody out there is going to overvalue them just like the Falcons did Peerless Price a few years back, give them a big, big signing bonus, and then realize too late that they didn't get what they paid for.''
The 25-year-old Givens is a former seventh-round pick who has played well as the Patriots' No. 2 receiver opposite Deion Branch. Givens, who caught 56 passes last season, had 38 going into last night's game against the Colts. But he was averaging just 10.9 yards per catch.
Wayne was the wideout the
Eagles passed on in the first round of the 2001 draft in favor of the immortal Freddie Mitchell. Wayne caught 77 passes for 1,210 yards and 12 touchdowns last year, and had 37 receptions entering last night's game. But Wayne has benefited greatly from having Peyton Manning
as his quarterback and the
aforementioned Harrison as his teammate. It's not nearly as easy to get open when opposing defenses are keying on you rather than the guy on the other side.
Randle El probably is the fastest of the three, but isn't considered a No. 1 receiver either. Playing in the Steelers' run-heavy
offense, he has just 16 receptions in eight games, though six of them have been for 20 yards or more.
After those three, the list gets even leaner. It includes recycled receivers such as Detroit's Troy Edwards, Houston's Corey Bradford, Seattle's Joe Jurevicius, Price (now with Dallas), Miami's David Boston, Minnesota's
Koren Robinson and Buffalo's Josh Reed.
One interesting name that might appeal to the Eagles is the Chargers' Reche Caldwell. The 26-year-old Caldwell played well in San Diego's 20-17 loss to the Eagles, catching four passes for 97 yards. But he has just 15
receptions this season and has been in and out of coach Marty Schottenheimer's doghouse because of fumbling problems - such as Sheldon Brown's game-clinching strip for the Eagles..
i want to agree with you RJS, but your farging optimisim is making my eyes burn and my head spin.
Quote from: mussa on November 08, 2005, 09:18:38 AM
He burned everyone...I was shocked to see he had speed like that...i didn't think he could burn people.
Let's not get too excited about that play - the corner covering him thought he was in zone when the rest of the team was in man. No one was chasing him until after he caught the ball, and then it was too late.
Get Boston!
Quote from: rjs246 on November 08, 2005, 08:58:43 AM
Quote from: Sun_Mo on November 08, 2005, 08:54:15 AM
the problem with getting a stud reciever is that you almost always have to draft and develop them. look around the league and it's hard to find a #1 reciever that has switched teams (except TO and Moss of course) or a #2 that has gone to another team and turned into a #1.
so, the only real way to get a stud WR is to draft well and develop well, not exactly the Eagles' strong point.
Goddammit! Reggie Brown looks good! He's got OK size. He's shown RAC ability. Good hands. Good speed. Is anyone listening?! He isn't a world beater yet, but I think this dude could turn into a number one. Am I completely alone on this?
not at all. i think they finally got it right with reggie brown. it wont be right away, but by the end of next season, i think brown will br that #1
It's funny that everyone sees my attitude as optimism. My attititude is exactly the same as it was last week or last month or three months ago. The only difference is that now everyone else has jumped ship and is chicken-littling all over the place so my attitude seems positive.
I'm happy TO is gone. I'm happy with what Brown showed on Sunday and more importantly, that he is getting an opportunity to start and contribute. A few details aside, I liked the way the offense ran on sunday. I HATE the way our defense has been playing. I HATE the way special teams has looked. I HATE Reid's play calling, though he seemed to rededicate himself to the run on Sunday so maybe there's hope. I HATE the stupid decisions at the end of the first and second halfs. I think 10-6 is still possible which is a game off of the 11-5 that I thought they would be at the beginning of the season.
You're all still idiots and I will tell you that as often as possible, so don't kid yourself into thinking my miserable attitude has changed.
reggie brown makes one play and now he has rac ability...im not saying he doesnt but lets not jerk ourselves off just yet
then, I can only conclude that you have a man-love crush on Reggie Brown.
Not only is the Free Agent crop of receivers going to be slim, so are the players coming out of the college ranks.
:(
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 08, 2005, 09:32:08 AM
reggie brown makes one play and now he has rac ability...im not saying he doesnt but lets not jerk ourselves off just yet
Dude, it was two plays. Duh. And with all of these cheerleader/nurse/student/lesbian/exhibitionists running around, I'm not making any promises about jerking myself off.
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 08, 2005, 09:32:08 AM
reggie brown makes one play and now he has rac ability...im not saying he doesnt but lets not jerk ourselves off just yet
With that play and with a couple of broken tackles this year, he's already ahead of Pinkston and Lewis! Ha.
Lewis will be a star in the NFL. I knew that the first time I saw him in his first minicamp workouts.
As for me jerking off about it, well, that's my business and my business alone.
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on November 08, 2005, 10:09:58 AM
Lewis will be a star in the NFL. I knew that the first time I saw him in his first minicamp workouts.
As for me jerking off about it, well, that's my business and my business alone.
Did you mean Brown, or actually Lewis?
either he meant rb or he just did an 8 ball off his keyboard
Meant Brown, actually. Sorry about that. I'm busy at work and not really paying attention to my posting responsibilities today.
:D
dude, get your head in the game, ok, work can be put on the back burner for serious MB time.
Quote from: T_Section224 on November 08, 2005, 10:29:44 AM
dude, get your head in the game, ok, work can be put on the back burner for serious MB Jenna Jameson whackage time.
Zing.
yeah, well, that too
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Quote from: Cerevant on November 08, 2005, 09:22:55 AM
Quote from: mussa on November 08, 2005, 09:18:38 AM
He burned everyone...I was shocked to see he had speed like that...i didn't think he could burn people.
Let's not get too excited about that play - the corner covering him thought he was in zone when the rest of the team was in man. No one was chasing him until after he caught the ball, and then it was too late.
still, outrunning Sean Taylor is pretty impressive. I didn't think Reggie was going to score on that play.
I'd take Reggie Wayne in a heart-beat.
Quote from: mussa on November 08, 2005, 11:28:46 AM
I'd take Reggie Wayne in a heart-beat.
for #1 money?
Vote for Reggie for NFL rookie of the week! (http://www.nfl.com/rookies/vote)
He's currently slightly trailing Shawne Merriman and Brandon Jacobs.
still, outrunning Sean Taylor is pretty impressive
if a wr cant outrun a safety then he should die
But Thuggery Thuggelson is the bestest safety evar!
Quote from: FFatPatt on November 08, 2005, 02:10:29 PM
Vote for Reggie for NFL rookie of the week! (http://www.nfl.com/rookies/vote)
He's currently slightly trailing Shawne Merriman and Brandon Jacobs.
QuoteShawne Merriman 30%
Brandon Jacobs 25%
Reggie Brown 25%
Cedric Benson 18%
Leroy Hill 2%
VOTES 7906
Quote from: General_Failure on November 08, 2005, 02:14:18 PM
But Thuggery Thuggelson is the bestest safety evar!
The Skins fans just say that because they are afraid he'll go on a shooting spree in the Landover area if they don't.
Yeah I forgot about those two fellows, (Smith and Johnson)
Yeah well.
I would not throw #1 money at Reggie Wayne. He's a solid WR but I don't want the Eagles to overpay for him especially if Reggie Brown can put up similar numbers.
Reggie Wayne = Peerless Price
Yeah, he definitely could be a product of playing opposite of Marvin Harrision.
yea i understand anyone can catch a perfectly thrown pass from the great one peyton...well except murp...but i still think reggie wayne is the best out their to be a free agent & a better receiver than anyone on our team. IMO...now slaughter me if you will...if u will
Quote from: mussa on November 08, 2005, 05:19:12 PM
yea i understand anyone can catch a perfectly thrown pass from the great one peyton...well except murp...but i still think reggie wayne is the best out their to be a free agent & a better receiver than anyone on our team. IMO...now slaughter me if you will...if u will
He may be better than anything the Eagles have but he would just be another #2 WR (imo) in a long line of #2 and #3 WR's in the Andy Reid era.
so upgrade or not? Might as well have another #2 in a pass happy scappy flappy offense, in theory
Quote from: FFatPatt on November 08, 2005, 10:16:23 AM
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on November 08, 2005, 10:09:58 AM
Lewis will be a star in the NFL. I knew that the first time I saw him in his first minicamp workouts.
As for me jerking off about it, well, that's my business and my business alone.
Did you mean Brown, or actually Lewis?
Sheldon Brown or Reggie Brown? Michael Lewis or Greg Lewis?
I think we need to upgrade FB, TE, & maybe C before thinking about throwing mad money at a receiver.
Na Brown. Richard Lewis.
damn u reggie wayne haters
I think WR cost way too much money in the league today for the Eagles to try this experiment again, personality disorder or not.
I'm no Wayne hater, but it's tough to think that he'd be worth big time money when not only does he have Peyton The Great throwing to him, but when he is playing with Harrison, Edge, Clark, Stokely and Pollard (last few years).
Todd Pinkston would be a stud in that lineup.
i say the eagles just abandon the pass game all together...
Quote from: mussa on November 08, 2005, 05:29:22 PM
i say the eagles just abandon the pass game all together...
That's a really good idea, considering how quality the run blocking has been.
my god take TO off the banner MAD...thats burning me like the spackle on my cackle
Quote from: mussa on November 08, 2005, 05:30:14 PM
my god take TO off the banner MAD...thats burning me like the spackle on my cackle
Thats Billy McMullen muss. ;)
Quote from: FFatPatt on November 08, 2005, 05:30:10 PM
Quote from: mussa on November 08, 2005, 05:29:22 PM
i say the eagles just abandon the pass game all together...
That's a really good idea, considering how quality the run blocking has been.
really? havn't noticed. your personality is fargin dryer than my spackle
Quote from: mussa on November 08, 2005, 05:31:54 PM
Quote from: FFatPatt on November 08, 2005, 05:30:10 PM
Quote from: mussa on November 08, 2005, 05:29:22 PM
i say the eagles just abandon the pass game all together...
That's a really good idea, considering how quality the run blocking has been.
really? havn't noticed. your personality is fargin dryer than my spackle
That's not very nice. I demand an apology, or I'll suspend you for 4 weeks from losing to MURP at Madden.
Quote from: NGM on November 08, 2005, 05:31:34 PM
Quote from: mussa on November 08, 2005, 05:30:14 PM
my god take TO off the banner MAD...thats burning me like the spackle on my cackle
Thats Billy McMullen muss. ;)
i wish it was Wilbur...hes made me so proud the past two games
i'd do it now, but the .psd is on my computer at home. I'm planning on moving Westbrook next to Nabbage. Then again, i may replace everyone with McMullen since he's the greatest player on the team.
Quote from: FFatPatt on November 07, 2005, 06:00:56 PM
Quote from: FreakisaKearseWord on November 07, 2005, 05:59:57 PM
Don't kid yourself, guys.
About what?
Unless we bring someone in for dousche-bag-Owens or step up the running game, the offense isn't getting anywhere
Whatever you say, "official sponsor".
Yes, that's right, whatever I say :paranoid
Thinking it further, I wouldn't even attempt to go after a #1 receiver even if a player like this were available and he were a model citizen like, say, Marvin Harrison.
You know damn well if Reid were to acquire a player like that, he wouldn't be able to resist the urge to indulge in his "Air Coryell" fetishes: he would exploit the mismatches with his shiny, new weapon -- this hypothetical #1 receiver -- along with Westbrook, via the passing game for 65-70% of the plays.
Instead, this offense should be centered around the RB & TE, Westbrook and LJ. You can still have an explosive offense even without top-tier WRs, as the Chiefs and Chargers have demonstrated.
To that effect, we need to upgrade blocking at the point of attack, which is a lot easier (and much cheaper) than going out and finding a star receiver.
Even without a "true number one" Reid was calling pass plays at least 60% of the time, maybe even closer to the 65% of which you speak.
60/40 was the good ol' days. With TO in there, it was like 75/25.
I miss the good ol' days. :-D
Ah, the good ol' days-when the offensive line could actually run block.
What block?
The good 'ol days when we never got to the Super Bowl in 24 years?
Quote from: FreakisaKearseWord on November 08, 2005, 07:22:34 PM
The good 'ol days when we never got to the Super Bowl in 24 years?
As far as this conversation goes, last year is included in the good ol' days as well.