link (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2211321)
run the ball. now.
if somebody would be so kind as to post the article...
Oof. I guess my theory will be tested sooner rather than later. I won't lie, if we beat the taterskins without TO this weekend I'll gloat. A lot.
This year has been the best!
I bet he milks this injury.
Quote"Receiver Terrell Owens has told the Eagles that his availability for two key NFC East games against the taterskins and Cowboys is in jeopardy because of a sprained ankle he sustained against the Broncos in Denver on Sunday, sources have told ESPN's Chris Mortensen. Eagles spokesman Derek Boyko did not clarify Owens' status for this Sunday night's game against the taterskins but acknowledged that the veteran receiver likely would be listed on the injury report that will be submitted today to the league office.
Owens informed the Eagles on Monday that his ankle was hurting so badly that he doubts he can play against the taterskins and feels uncertain about his status for the Nov. 14 game against the Cowboys on ABC's Monday Night Football.
The Eagles were unsure about which play Owens hurt his ankle in Sunday's 49-21 loss to the Broncos.
Boyko confirmed it was on the same right leg he broke a year ago when he was tackled by Cowboys safety Roy Williams on Dec. 19, 2004. Owens missed the remainder of the regular season as the Eagles defeated the Cowboys 49-21 en route to Super Bowl XXXIX. Owens returned to play in that game, catching nine passes for 122 yards in the Eagles' 24-21 loss to the Patriots. "
this is the risk you run by not keeping this moron happy. he's probably glad he got hurt just so he could pull this crap.
so TO told the eagles he might miss the next 2 games. well, that sounds like a sound medical opinion to me.
(http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/uploads/photos/perm/main/EGLKKPEPOAKP/McMullen1_05-10-11.jpg)
And so the McMullen era begins.
Oh, you mean like he milked the injury last year? Or all of the times he was hurt in San Fran on that piece of shtein team, with Garcia as his QB, and still played?
ok.
how bout the eagles tell TO his availability for the next nine games wont be needed
Oh, you mean like he milked the injury last year? Or all of the times he was hurt in San Fran on that piece of shtein team, with Garcia as his QB, and still played?
did a nine month public war with the organization precede any of his other injuries??
Quote from: PhillyGirl on November 02, 2005, 11:43:50 AM
Oh, you mean like he milked the injury last year? Or all of the times he was hurt in San Fran on that piece of shtein team, with Garcia as his QB, and still played?
ok.
it's pretty well documented that his last year of playing in SF he didn't go over the middle like he used to and he ran out of bounds alot too, sorta like this year.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on November 02, 2005, 11:43:50 AM
Oh, you mean like he milked the injury last year? Or all of the times he was hurt in San Fran on that piece of shtein team, with Garcia as his QB, and still played?
ok.
I'm amazed you are still able to defend Terrell Owens' character.
It's a smoke screen... he'll play.
T.O. is not about to miss 2 PRIME TIME, NATIONALLY TELEVISED games, not to mention 2 weeks worth of stats, just to stick it to the Eagles.
Not happening.
But for the sake of argument, if I'm wrong.... what was the last game they played w/o T.O..... how were their running stats.... yup. They were good. And that was the NFCC game...
stop looking at the glass half empty. With McMullen, the glass is overflowing with awesomeness!
I'm amazed you are still able to defend Terrell Owens' character
when youve tried valiantly to defend the undefensible for so long its really hard to turn the other way now...at this point for the TO defenders its pretty much a save face game by sticking to it
Kearse = questionable
McNabb = probable
McMullen = unstoppable
:-D
Quote from: rjs246 on November 02, 2005, 11:26:34 AM
Oof. I guess my theory will be tested sooner rather than later. I won't lie, if we beat the taterskins without TO this weekend I'll gloat. A lot.
There is ZERO chance of the Eagles beating the taterskins or Cowboys without TO. Book It!
i will piss myself all night if mcmullen comes in with 4 catches and 190 yards and 2 scores. i'll piss myself, and like it.
McMullen will see the field for 4 plays...maybe. They will put Westbrook at WR rather than McMullen. They'll just run Gordon instead.
If mushmouth could get feeling in his hands (or some thumbs perhaps), I wouldn't mind a 6'4" outside receiver.
Quote from: The Waco Kid on November 02, 2005, 11:58:55 AM
Quote from: rjs246 on November 02, 2005, 11:26:34 AM
Oof. I guess my theory will be tested sooner rather than later. I won't lie, if we beat the taterskins without TO this weekend I'll gloat. A lot.
There is ZERO chance of the Eagles beating the taterskins or Cowboys without TO. Book It!
Consider it booked.
Good! It's only gonna get worse on this forum if they lose the next two games. hungry hungry hippos will be out in force and everyone will hate each other here. The world is coming to an end...at least for this season.
McCants gets to be on the field during 4wr sets. WOO-HOO!
Well, at least my place on the waiting list would improve. :-[
Quote from: The Waco Kid on November 02, 2005, 12:05:12 PM
Good! It's only gonna get worse on this forum if they lose the next two games. hungry hungry hippos will be out in force and everyone will hate each other here. The world is coming to an end...at least for this season.
Hungry hungry hippos are already out with douchebags typing shtein like there is ZERO chance the Eagles beat the Skins or Boys without Owens.
Quote from: The Waco Kid on November 02, 2005, 12:05:12 PM
Good! It's only gonna get worse on this forum if they lose the next two games. hungry hungry hippos will be out in force and everyone will hate each other here. The world is coming to an end...at least for this season.
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Dude, knock it off with the creepy cartoons already. :paranoid
if reid changes the gameplan appropriately...count me as one who thinks losing TO will overall be a benefit to the team...especially in the short run...
Quote from: Tomahawk on November 02, 2005, 12:07:33 PM
Quote from: The Waco Kid on November 02, 2005, 12:05:12 PM
Good! It's only gonna get worse on this forum if they lose the next two games. hungry hungry hippos will be out in force and everyone will hate each other here. The world is coming to an end...at least for this season.
Hungry hungry hippos are already out with douchebags typing shtein like there is ZERO chance the Eagles beat the Skins or Boys without Owens.
Yeah, sure...i'm only telling the truth.
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feel free to boo the Eagles, but do you have to root for the Pats? :-X
3 of Washington's starting DL are very questionable with injuries--Joe Saaleva (foot injury), Cornelius Griffin (hip), and Philip Daniels. That's according to the Skins site on http://www.nfl.com.
We might see Moats, Gordon, and Westbrook carry the ball, finally.
Quote from: The Waco Kid on November 02, 2005, 11:58:55 AM
There is ZERO chance of the Eagles beating the taterskins or Cowboys without TO. Book It!
yeah, I remember when we had Thrash as our number one WR and the Eagle NEVER beat the Skins. ::)
How did the Eagles do against Atlanta in the NFCC w/o T.O. .. But yeah, the Skins are so much better than Atlanta.
If you were just being sarcastic, disregard my post. The Eagles are beating the Skins with or without T.O. this Sunday. Book It.
Quote from: Mad-Lad on November 02, 2005, 12:11:24 PM
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feel free to boo the Eagles, but do you have to root for the Pats? :-X
It was the only one i could find on google that wasn't huge. I was pissed after the Broncos debacle.
Sounds like we're headed for the same kind of crap the Jets had with Abraham last year. This guy Owens makes a full time job out of proving himself every bit the prick his worst critics have alleged.
Quote from: terpseagles on November 02, 2005, 12:16:58 PM
Quote from: The Waco Kid on November 02, 2005, 11:58:55 AM
There is ZERO chance of the Eagles beating the taterskins or Cowboys without TO. Book It!
yeah, I remember when we had Thrash as our number one WR and the Eagle NEVER beat the Skins. ::)
How did the Eagles do against Atlanta in the NFCC w/o T.O. .. But yeah, the Skins are so much better than Atlanta.
If you were just being sarcastic, disregard my post. The Eagles are beating the Skins with or without T.O. this Sunday. Book It.
Argument flaw...that eagle team was better and the taterskins were just pathetic. The eagles will have to run to win. Washington's pass d is too good to throw 80% of the time.
Frankly, I'm shocked and more than a little disappointed that no one has said "Burn Him" yet.
You fargers suck.
Which is more disappointing the loss of TO or how everyone has been so quick to come down on this team?
I don't know...but if my girlfriend would be as quick to come down on me, i'd be a much happier man!!
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on November 02, 2005, 12:24:48 PMFrankly, I'm shocked and more than a little disappointed that no one has said "Burn Him" yet.
That's
rjs' line. It's good when other people don't say it.
Quote from: 4and26 on November 02, 2005, 12:27:54 PM
Which is more disappointing the loss of TO or how everyone has been so quick to come down on this team?
Getting blown the farg out in two of the past three games by teams they would have destroyed in the recent past will do that to a motherfarger.
Quote from: skin48 on November 02, 2005, 12:23:23 PM
Argument flaw...that eagle team was better and the taterskins were just pathetic. The eagles will have to run to win. Washington's pass d is too good to throw 80% of the time.
I was referencing the Eagles v Atlanta game, so while that Eagles team may have been better than the current, your past Skins team wasn't part of my point.
But yeah, the Eagles will have to run to win.
Quote from: Diomedes on November 02, 2005, 12:29:59 PM
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on November 02, 2005, 12:24:48 PMFrankly, I'm shocked and more than a little disappointed that no one has said "Burn Him" yet.
That's rjs' line. It's good when other people don't say it.
Oh. I see.
Well BURN YOU, then.
Better?
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on November 02, 2005, 12:30:18 PM
Quote from: 4and26 on November 02, 2005, 12:27:54 PM
Which is more disappointing the loss of TO or how everyone has been so quick to come down on this team?
Getting blown the farg out in two of the past three games by teams they would have destroyed in the recent past will do that to a motherfarger.
I don't know if the Eagles would have ever destroyed the Broncos.
BURN DIO!!
Quote from: Wingspan on November 02, 2005, 12:07:40 PM
Quote from: The Waco Kid on November 02, 2005, 12:05:12 PM
Good! It's only gonna get worse on this forum if they lose the next two games. hungry hungry hippos will be out in force and everyone will hate each other here. The world is coming to an end...at least for this season.
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i can't stop laughing at that. excellent use of the word 'default'
Quote from: Tomahawk on November 02, 2005, 12:31:55 PM
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on November 02, 2005, 12:30:18 PM
Quote from: 4and26 on November 02, 2005, 12:27:54 PM
Which is more disappointing the loss of TO or how everyone has been so quick to come down on this team?
Getting blown the farg out in two of the past three games by teams they would have destroyed in the recent past will do that to a motherfarger.
I don't know if the Eagles would have ever destroyed the Broncos.
BURN DIO!!
Everyone is waiting for Plummer to blow up and the Broncos to fold. It's happened in the past, but this year looks to be different. I'm waiting to see the Broncos play the Colts, and Pittsburg in the playoffs. If they continue to play as well as they have so far, those are gonna' be some good games to watch.
Quote from: rjs246 on November 02, 2005, 11:26:34 AM
Oof. I guess my theory will be tested sooner rather than later. I won't lie, if we beat the taterskins without TO this weekend I'll gloat. A lot.
Yeah, I for one hope to hear a lot of your gloating.
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Quote from: Sun_Mo on November 02, 2005, 11:38:26 AM
this is the risk you run by not keeping this moron happy. he's probably glad he got hurt just so he could pull this crap.
And you purchased your crystal ball were? I'd like to have one like it. You know, the one with the direct link to what TO is thinking.
I'm shore he's tickled pink that he's gotten' hurt. Christmas came early for TO, in the form of a giftwrapped ankle sprain. Now he can really show that mean ole' Andy Reid. ::)
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 02, 2005, 11:43:57 AM
how bout the eagles tell TO his availability for the next nine games wont be needed
Don't you think they'd have done that at the beginning of the season when he was holding out?? Oh wait......no.........they wouldn't do that, they're gonna' wait until halfway through the season to get rid of him. Yeah, thats more logical Mr. Spock.
TO is without a doubt, the biggest offensive weapon on this team, if he didn't prove it with a McNabb dump off he turned into Dmacs longest completion ever, then shame on anyone who doesn't believe it. With him out, our chances of winning drop considerably, although I don't think it's a guarantee of a loss.
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And you purchased your crystal ball were? I'd like to have one like it. You know, the one with the direct link to what TO is thinking.
I'm shore he's tickled pink that he's gotten' hurt. Christmas came early for TO, in the form of a giftwrapped ankle sprain. Now he can really show that mean ole' Andy Reid. Roll Eyes
if the fact that he's telling the Eagles that he's unavailable for the next two games doesn't tell you all you need to know, then there's no use for me to explain it to you.
Even with TO out, Reid will still call a bunch of pass plays.
Washington has a pathetic pass rush and a rookie corner. I'd guess he'll try to exploit that by shifting Westbrook and Lewis around and featuring LJ heavily. That last aspect might actually prove to be a boon in the long run.
It doesn't really matter either way with the way the entire team has been playing. If there was consistency all around it would be a big dropoff. Now, it's just a matter of guessing who gets the passes thrown their way on the three and out drives.
Don't you think they'd have done that at the beginning of the season when he was holding out??
i thought they would have done that but as ive said here before...andy sold everything he believes in and his soul to the devil in the name of more wins...and once you do that your teams in trouble....they were never gonna win with the enviroment TO brought into the locker room this year...
Quote from: Sun_Mo on November 02, 2005, 01:55:05 PM
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And you purchased your crystal ball were? I'd like to have one like it. You know, the one with the direct link to what TO is thinking.
I'm shore he's tickled pink that he's gotten' hurt. Christmas came early for TO, in the form of a giftwrapped ankle sprain. Now he can really show that mean ole' Andy Reid. Roll Eyes
if the fact that he's telling the Eagles that he's unavailable for the next two games doesn't tell you all you need to know, then there's no use for me to explain it to you.
If you think TO is glad he's gotten' hurt, then theres nothing you could explain to me that would make sense. Did you even read the article, or did your crystal ball tell you he said he's not playing the next two games??
QuoteReceiver Terrell Owens has told the Eagles that his availability for two key NFC East games against the taterskins and Cowboys is in jeopardy because of a sprained ankle he sustained against the Broncos in Denver on Sunday, sources have told ESPN's Chris Mortensen.
Owens sprained the ankle, the same one on which he had surgery last year, in the loss Sunday to Denver and limped around the locker room after the game.
"He is hurting," coach Andy Reid said. "He is sore. It's going to be a fight to get him there for Sunday. We're taking it day by day. He's made progress the last couple of days."
Owens is considered doubtful, meaning he has a 25 percent chance of playing against the taterskins.
So tell me, were do you see in there that he's told the Eagles he' unavailable for the next two games?? Even Reid says he's hurt, and that it will be a fight for him to play Sunday. Does
considered doubtful mean he's told them he's not playing the next two games?? I guess,
considered doubtful means,
"I'm not playing the next two games" in crystal ball language.
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 02, 2005, 02:01:01 PM
Don't you think they'd have done that at the beginning of the season when he was holding out??
i thought they would have done that but as ive said here before...andy sold everything he believes in and his soul to the devil in the name of more wins...and once you do that your teams in trouble....they were never gonna win with the enviroment TO brought into the locker room this year...
A 4-3 record is a losing record? Your chucking the season at the halfway point? Yeah, your a real fan you are.
in terms of speaking to the media andy reid might be the only person less credible than owens
i trust chris mortenson waaaaaaay more than i trust andy reid
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So tell me, were do you see in there that he's told the Eagles he' unavailable for the next two games??
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Receiver Terrell Owens has told the Eagles that his availability for two key NFC East games against the taterskins and Cowboys is in jeopardy because of a sprained ankle he sustained against the Broncos in Denver on Sunday, sources have told ESPN's Chris Mortensen.
um, yeah, that's where
I ate lunch, now I have gas.
Quote from: Syracuse on November 02, 2005, 02:30:08 PM
I ate lunch, now I have gas.
I just took an rjs and after I wiped my hbionic I went to the sink to wash my kickass hands. Some motherfarger that came out of one of the stalls just walks right out of the bathroom. How can you take a dump and not wash your hands. farging disgusting is what that is. I'm never shaking anybody's hands again.
Quote from: Sun_Mo on November 02, 2005, 02:23:04 PM
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So tell me, were do you see in there that he's told the Eagles he' unavailable for the next two games??
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Receiver Terrell Owens has told the Eagles that his availability for two key NFC East games against the taterskins and Cowboys is in jeopardy because of a sprained ankle he sustained against the Broncos in Denver on Sunday, sources have told ESPN's Chris Mortensen.
um, yeah, that's where
Told them what, that his availability is in jepardy? How is that translate into he told them he's not playing? Oh yeah, I forgot, that crystal ball thing again.
Your making shtein up.
Quote from: shorebird on November 02, 2005, 02:42:57 PM
Told them what, that his availability is in jepardy? How is that translate into he told them he's not playing? Oh yeah, I forgot, that crystal ball thing again.
Your making shtein up.
You're a moron. but the crystal ball joke is really working, keep driving that one into the ground.
I prefer the term idiotic savant, sounds more proffesional. I guess I'm not smart enough to believe made up bullshtein.
At first I was taken aback by the alleged comment TO made. I mean, who the farg is he to say he's not playing. Then I realized it's all just media spin which almost pissed me off as much as shteinhands not washing his hands after taking a shtein. farging motherfargers.
Get Moss!
Quote from: shorebird on November 02, 2005, 02:50:06 PM
I prefer the term idiotic savant, sounds more proffesional. I guess I'm not smart enough to believe made up bullshtein.
i wouldn't say that, i'd say you aren't smart enough to understand what really happening.
The way I look at it, he'll have to be hurting real bad to not play. He had over 100 yds. on a broken ankle. It wouldn't suprise me if he does play.
Quote from: shorebird on November 02, 2005, 02:54:27 PM
The way I look at it, he'll have to be hurting real bad to not play. He had over 100 yds. on a broken ankle. It wouldn't suprise me if he does play.
Dude, you've just proven everyone else's point. He played on a surgically repaired foot last year and smoked the competition. Now he's tweaked it, it's not broken, there are no pins or plates in it, and he's telling the team that he probably can't play. The love is gone. The honeymoon is over. The only solution is napalm.
Quote from: Sun_Mo on November 02, 2005, 02:53:36 PM
Quote from: shorebird on November 02, 2005, 02:50:06 PM
I prefer the term idiotic savant, sounds more professional. I guess I'm not smart enough to believe made up bullshtein.
i wouldn't say that, i'd say you aren't smart enough to understand what really happening.
No, I'm not smart enough to know what TO is thinking, and I'm not stupid enough to insinuate I do, like someone else around here.
Quote from: shorebird on November 02, 2005, 02:54:27 PM
The way I look at it, he'll have to be hurting real bad to not play. He had over 100 yds. on a broken ankle. It wouldn't suprise me if he does play.
That's before the Eagles slapped him in the face, kicked him in the nuts, and [Ray Rhodes] raped his sister [/Ray Rhodes] by not offering a new contract. His attitude is night/day from last year.
So he's gonna' be glad he's gotten' hurt, and can sit out to burn his team? That will really make other teams knock down doors to sign him.
I'm sorry, I'm to ignorant to see it.
Quote from: shorebird on November 02, 2005, 03:01:15 PM
So he's gonna' be glad he's gotten' hurt, and can sit out to burn his team? That will really make other teams knock down doors to sign him.
I'm sorry, I'm to ignorant to see it.
What is it, exactly, that TO has ever done to make you think that he has that much forsight? He's a child. He's pouting because he didn't get his way. That's the end of it.
Quote from: rjs246 on November 02, 2005, 03:04:01 PM
Quote from: shorebird on November 02, 2005, 03:01:15 PM
So he's gonna' be glad he's gotten' hurt, and can sit out to burn his team? That will really make other teams knock down doors to sign him.
What is it, exactly, that TO has ever done to make you think that he has that much forsight?
Uh, he played the Superbowl on a broken ankle thinking he'd get a fat contract extention. :-*
Quote from: shorebird on November 02, 2005, 03:01:15 PM
So he's gonna' be glad he's gotten' hurt, and can sit out to burn his team? That will really make other teams knock down doors to sign him.
I'm sorry, I'm to ignorant to see it.
I'm not saying any of that. All I'm saying is T.O. is a complete farging idiot. Surely, you can see that.
Quote from: shorebird on November 02, 2005, 03:08:24 PM
Quote from: rjs246 on November 02, 2005, 03:04:01 PM
What is it, exactly, that TO has ever done to make you think that he has that much forsight?
Uh, he played the Superbowl on a broken ankle thinking he'd get a fat contract extention.
Again, I chalked that up to instant gratification of his ego, but hey, you're allowed to be wrong.
Well, going by your thinking, he's setting himself up for more instant gratification of his ego by saying he's hurt and going out and playing. Man, what a fat extension he'll get.
someone correct me if i am wrong. but there have been:
101 world series titles won
111 stanley cup champions
57 nba title won
39 superbowls won
84 total nfl championships won
9 AFL championships
...and TO has not been on a single one of those teams.
amazing.
Quote from: shorebird on November 02, 2005, 03:12:47 PM
Well, going by your thinking, he's setting himself up for more instant gratification of his ego by saying he's hurt and going out and playing. Man, what a fat extension he'll get.
Wrong. By my logic he thinks he is instantly gratifying his ego by 'sticking it to' the team that has so grievously disrespected him. That'll show'em! Why play with a booboo when they won't even renegotiate his contract after one year.
Man, I love it when times get tough for the Birds. Brings out the rational, steady best in everyone. It's nice.
Quote from: Tomahawk on November 02, 2005, 03:09:50 PM
Quote from: shorebird on November 02, 2005, 03:01:15 PM
So he's gonna' be glad he's gotten' hurt, and can sit out to burn his team? That will really make other teams knock down doors to sign him.
I'm sorry, I'm to ignorant to see it.
I'm not saying any of that. All I'm saying is T.O. is a complete farging idiot. Surely, you can see that.
Yeah, I can see that. I can also see he's a self absorbed icehole, a big mouth jerkoff, and the biggest nut case this team has had since Romo. The before mentioned quote was referring to others.
He's also the best receiver this team has had since Mike Quick.
Quote from: Zanshin on November 02, 2005, 03:16:48 PM
Man, I love it when times get tough for the Birds. Brings out the rational, steady best in everyone. It's nice.
It's not tough times that make me nuts, it's the rational, steady best of everyone that makes me act the ass.
It just gets worse and worse.
This team is falling apart.
Quote from: Larry on November 02, 2005, 01:56:09 PM
Even with TO out, Reid will still call a bunch of pass plays.
Washington has a pathetic pass rush and a rookie corner. I'd guess he'll try to exploit that by shifting Westbrook and Lewis around and featuring LJ heavily. That last aspect might actually prove to be a boon in the long run.
That explains why they have the best pass defense in the nfl. ::)
Quote from: rjs246 on November 02, 2005, 11:26:34 AM
Oof. I guess my theory will be tested sooner rather than later. I won't lie, if we beat the taterskins without TO this weekend I'll gloat. A lot.
What if we win, but due to defense and a run game? >:D
Quote from: skin48 on November 02, 2005, 04:13:33 PM
Quote from: Larry on November 02, 2005, 01:56:09 PM
Even with TO out, Reid will still call a bunch of pass plays.
Washington has a pathetic pass rush and a rookie corner. I'd guess he'll try to exploit that by shifting Westbrook and Lewis around and featuring LJ heavily. That last aspect might actually prove to be a boon in the long run.
That explains why they have the best pass defense in the nfl. ::)
Playing against 2 rookie QBs will do that to your stats. The Skins pass defense is not that good because of their terrible pass rush.
Quote from: TO is GOD on November 02, 2005, 04:13:33 PM
Quote from: rjs246 on November 02, 2005, 11:26:34 AM
Oof. I guess my theory will be tested sooner rather than later. I won't lie, if we beat the taterskins without TO this weekend I'll gloat. A lot.
What if we win, but due to defense and a run game?
That would prove my point exactly. No TO on this team = more run game from AR = more wins for the Eagles.
Try to keep up.
I thought you said TO was hurting this team because he just brings a bad aura in the locker room and on the field with him.
Quote from: TO is GOD on November 02, 2005, 04:21:37 PM
I thought you said TO was hurting this team because he just brings a bad aura in the locker room and on the field with him.
That is part of it, but that is all subjective. His negative impact on the game planning and play calling is much more tangible.
Do you think it's just because of TO, or that he is a #1 receiver in general that Andy gameplans too much around him?
Quote from: TO is GOD on November 02, 2005, 04:24:11 PM
Do you think it's just because of TO, or that he is a #1 receiver in general that Andy gameplans too much around him?
I don't have the slightest idea. But I do know that AR was never this pass-wacky for this kind of extended period of time before TO got here.
Quote from: TO is GOD on November 02, 2005, 04:24:11 PM
Do you think it's just because of TO, or that he is a #1 receiver in general that Andy gameplans too much around him?
christ, you sound like my wife.
The Eagles are going to beat the Skins with or without TO. That is the lead pipe lock.
with TO no
without TO better than 50/50
Quote from: MURP on November 02, 2005, 04:31:00 PM
The Eagles are going to beat the Skins with or without TO. That is the lead pipe lock.
Agreeded ;D
A couple things:
TO clearly stated on his radio show that he will no longer risk worsening an injury for the Eagles after how they "disrespected" him. So, I really doubt he'll play this weekend unless that part of TO that craves the spotlight takes over and he decides to play. I would actually prefer him not to play. We need to have him healthy down the stretch. He was pretty much a non-factor in the game @ Washington last year anyway.
We didn't exactly set the world on fire with TO the last few games, so it's not like we were scoring 40 points per game and just lost our main weapon. Maybe TO gone motivates the other guys to step up.
The defense will also have extra motivation to step up because it's more important to shutdown their offense.
Didn't see this posted:
QuoteReid denies report that Owens may miss 2 games
By Marc Narducci
INQUIRER STAFF WRITER
Eagles coach Andy Reid today refuted an ESPN report that wide receiver Terrell Owens told the team that his status for the next two games would be in jeopardy because of a sprained ankle.
"I hadn't heard that," Reid said during his news conference today at the Nova Care Complex. "I don't worry about that. It's a day to day thing, that's the way he is approaching it and we'll see how it goes. As far as I know, from T.O and my trainers, that is what it is."
Owens was listed by Reid as doubtful for Sunday's game at Fed Ex Field against the Washington taterskins.
"He is hurting and sore," Reid said. "It's going to be a fight to get him there Sunday."
Owens has caught 47 passes for 763 yards and six touchdowns this season. He was among a number of players who are battling injuries.
Punter Dirk Johnson is out for the season after Reid announced he has been put on the injured reserve list with a groin injury. He was replaced by rookie Reggie Hodges, who appeared in five games this season for the St. Louis Rams.
Hodges averaged 38 yards on 22 punts after being selected in the sixth round from Ball State.
Also on the injury front, defensive end Jevon Kearse didn't practice Wednesday because of a shoulder sprain and is listed as day to day and is questionable for this week, according to Reid.
Quarterback Donovan McNabb didn't practice due to a rib contusion.
He is listed as day to day. Reid said that McNabb is probable.
McNabb indicated that he would be in the lineup. When asked if he was close to not playing, McNabb said, "No. I love this game too much."
McNabb said he suffered the injury after getting hit and falling on the heel of guard Shawn Andrews.
"It's sore, but I look forward to getting better each day." McNabb said.
Quote from: MURP on November 02, 2005, 04:31:00 PM
The Eagles are going to beat the Skins with or without TO. That is the lead pipe lock.
keep dreaming...with TO it will hard to win in washington
Quote from: skin48 on November 02, 2005, 06:02:59 PM
Quote from: MURP on November 02, 2005, 04:31:00 PM
The Eagles are going to beat the Skins with or without TO. That is the lead pipe lock.
Keep dreaming...it will be hard to buy tickets in Washington because all the Eagles fans bought them. I'm gay.
That's probably what you meant.
:-D
I donno why but that made me laugh.
Who cares?
We still win.
Thats right, Iggles win!!
Gibbs is doubting TO's injury status (http://www.washtimes.com/sports/20051102-113640-6742r.htm)
tell him to get in line
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 03, 2005, 09:17:51 AM
tell him to get in line
missed the point. He's not saying TO is lying (like you have been)...he's saying its a ploy by the Eagles and that he'll play.
missed the point. He's not saying TO is lying (like you have been)...he's saying its a ploy by the Eagles and that he'll play.
no hes saying that TO isnt really that hurt...and so am i...you honestly think gibbs is going to come out and say an opponents player is milking an injury
Quote from: PhillyGirl on November 03, 2005, 09:34:03 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 03, 2005, 09:17:51 AM
tell him to get in line
missed the point. He's not saying TO is lying (like you have been)...he's saying its a ploy by the Eagles and that he'll play.
according to the article...
Quotetaterskins coach Joe Gibbs expects Owens to be on the field.
"I don't think there's any question," he said. "Over the years, in my experience, they always play, and they always play great. I always take that with a grain of salt."
he's not saying any of those things.
but just to be in the fun of projecting and pretending to know what joe gibbs was secretly saying, i am going to say gibbs was actually saying that he hopes to get a quicky from terrell's girlfriend at halftime.
Quotetaterskins cornerback Shawn Springs said preparing for the Eagles might be more difficult if Owens doesn't play. Springs has faced Owens since the two were with Seattle and San Francisco, respectively.
"Preparing for him is easier versus some guy coming off the bench that's trying prove himself to get a shot," Springs said. "Those are the guys who give you the hardest times and wear you out."
I'm sure Shawn would honestly like to face T.O. more than Reggie Brown. Riiiiiiiiight.
Quote from: Wingspan on November 03, 2005, 09:52:44 AM
but just to be in the fun of projecting and pretending to know what joe gibbs was secretly saying, i am going to say gibbs was actually saying that he hopes to get a quicky from terrell's girlfriend at halftime.
You know that's not possible - he'll be too busy giving it to Art.
Quote from: Wingspan on November 03, 2005, 09:52:44 AM
Quote from: PhillyGirl on November 03, 2005, 09:34:03 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 03, 2005, 09:17:51 AM
tell him to get in line
missed the point. He's not saying TO is lying (like you have been)...he's saying its a ploy by the Eagles and that he'll play.
according to the article... Quotetaterskins coach Joe Gibbs expects Owens to be on the field.
"I don't think there's any question," he said. "Over the years, in my experience, they always play, and they always play great. I always take that with a grain of salt."
he's not saying any of those things.
but just to be in the fun of projecting and pretending to know what joe gibbs was secretly saying, i am going to say gibbs was actually saying that he hopes to get a quicky from terrell's girlfriend at halftime.
Huh? You just proved what I said. His quote clearly says that THEY ALWAYS PLAY. Basically saying, that they might SAY they won't play, but they will.
But it CLEARLY didn't state that he thinks TO is lying and making the shtein up like IGY is claiming.
springs is just giving himself an out for when mcmullen bags three touches against him
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 03, 2005, 09:56:55 AM
springs is just giving himself an out for when mcmullen bags three touches against him
Maybe he'd rather play an injured T.O. instead of a healthy Reggie Brown or Billy McMullen. Maybe.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on November 03, 2005, 09:56:14 AM
Huh? You just proved what I said. His quote clearly says that THEY ALWAYS PLAY. Basically saying, that they might SAY they won't play, but they will.
But it CLEARLY didn't state that he thinks TO is lying and making the shtein up like IGY is claiming.
you seriously think gibbs would have said "that douche is fakin' it?" in any public forum.
sheesh...this is just a softball quote from a coach saying the right thing publicly while he was being baited by some beat writer dirt bag. no different than any other quote in the papers.
Quote from: FFatPatt on November 03, 2005, 09:57:41 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 03, 2005, 09:56:55 AM
springs is just giving himself an out for when mcmullen bags three touches against him
Maybe he'd rather play an injured T.O. instead of a healthy Reggie Brown or Billy McMullen. Maybe.
he'd better just worry that Josh Parry doesn't paralyze him again.
Quote from: Sun_Mo on November 03, 2005, 10:01:52 AM
Quote from: FFatPatt on November 03, 2005, 09:57:41 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 03, 2005, 09:56:55 AM
springs is just giving himself an out for when mcmullen bags three touches against him
Maybe he'd rather play an injured T.O. instead of a healthy Reggie Brown or Billy McMullen. Maybe.
he'd better just worry that Josh Parry doesn't paralyze him again.
I'm fairly certain that Springs was dead for a second or two after that hit. Only mostly dead. Slightly alive.
Josh Parry doesn't paralyze anyone anymore.
you seriously think gibbs would have said "that douche is fakin' it?" in any public forum.
sheesh...this is just a softball quote from a coach saying the right thing publicly while he was being baited by some beat writer dirt bag. no different than any other quote in the papers.
give that man a cigar
for the record i dont think TO is faking it as in he has no injury...but i think if he wanted too he could definitely play this weekend
Quote from: FFatPatt on November 03, 2005, 10:02:52 AM
Josh Parry doesn't paralyze anyone anymore.
sure he does, he paralyzes the run game
I think you're confusing him with Andy Reid.
Quote from: FFatPatt on November 03, 2005, 10:05:44 AM
I think you're confusing him with Andy Reid.
it's a joint effort.
Personally, I blame Marty Morningwood.
You guys already posted the article about Gibbs questioning Owens injruy status.
How many of you think Owens will be healthy by game day and will play against us?
I don't think Owens will play.
TO is psychotic so its hard to say what he will do...but i dont think hes playing...hes loving this spotlight now and even more than that he knows reid is hating it...so id expect him to sit out so that all the pre...during and post game talk is on TO and his 'injury'...not to mention all next week as well
Just get Sunday here already...geez. TO plays or he doesn't. Either way, it's all on McNabb and whether or not the crappy O Line can block for him.
Quote from: The Waco Kid on November 03, 2005, 11:23:10 AM
the crappy O Line
The OL looked bad against the Falcons, but has really manned up since. The opposing defenses KNOW the Eagles are going to pass, but the line is still able to block 5 or 6 guys pretty well. You can't exactly blame the OL when the defense is bringing 8 or 9 guys. You also can't blame them for sub-par run blocking, because they never get to practice it.
I still blame them. They suck!
Quote from: FFatPatt on November 03, 2005, 11:25:59 AM
Quote from: The Waco Kid on November 03, 2005, 11:23:10 AM
the crappy O Line
The OL looked bad against the Falcons, but has really manned up since. The opposing defenses KNOW the Eagles are going to pass, but the line is still able to block 5 or 6 guys pretty well. You can't exactly blame the OL when the defense is bringing 8 or 9 guys. You also can't blame them for sub-par run blocking, because they never get to practice it.
Totally, totally agree. I've been saying the exact same thing for years and I'm glad I'm not the only one that sees it. With beasts like Andrews and Runyan we should be able to run on the right side all day and just plain wear a D line out... if we actually considered running a part of our offense. :(
Quote from: Purple_Hayz on November 03, 2005, 11:33:28 AM
Quote from: FFatPatt on November 03, 2005, 11:25:59 AM
Quote from: The Waco Kid on November 03, 2005, 11:23:10 AM
the crappy O Line
The OL looked bad against the Falcons, but has really manned up since. The opposing defenses KNOW the Eagles are going to pass, but the line is still able to block 5 or 6 guys pretty well. You can't exactly blame the OL when the defense is bringing 8 or 9 guys. You also can't blame them for sub-par run blocking, because they never get to practice it.
Totally, totally agree. I've been saying the exact same thing for years and I'm glad I'm not the only one that sees it. With beasts like Andrews and Runyan we should be able to run on the right side all day and just plain wear a D line out... if we actually considered running a part of our offense. :(
Hey! You and I agree on something PH you miserable douche bag. :D
Howard's calling in from practice....
TO will practice this afternoon and there is a good chance he will play Sunday.
he wasn't limping and he feels much better today than yesterday.
Will wonders never cease? What's next, you bashing Pinky and me developing bad spelling? ???
His grammar problems are way worse than just spelling. At least with bad spelling (Shorebird for instance) you can figure out what the hell he's talking about. That "wost manneans" post was unintelligible.
Yeah, I should take the time to use the spell check more often.
I'm not surprised if TO looks good enough in practice for someone to say he will play, like Eskin. Everyone knows how quick he heals up. No one in the world except him thought he'd be able to play in the Superbowl, and this is a sprain, not a break.
I shore hope he does play. No matter what anyone says about our team being better without him, I know, and anyone who has half a brain knows we have a much better chance with him in the lineup.
The Skins might have gotten' shut out last week, but they ain't the Fourty Niners. ;D
Damn Gibbs has a good intution. He called it.
I'm glad either way whether he plays or not. If he didn't play, it would make it easier for our defense to shut own your offense by neutralizing your less talented receivers and focusing on Westbrook and preventing him from having a breakout game.
If he does play and we win, it means we beat you in a more legit fashion.
It will be interesting to watch the Skins #1 pass defense against the Eagles #1 pass offense this week. The Eagles rushing offense is last in the league and the Skins rush defense is 25th. Something has to give.
Quote from: Jake on November 03, 2005, 03:18:26 PMIt will be interesting to watch the Skins #1 pass defense against the Eagles #1 pass offense this week. The Eagles rushing offense is last in the league and the Skins rush defense is 25th. Something has to give.
The Eagles don't have the best passing offense in the league, just the most used. Big difference.
blah blah we blah blah blah our blah blah us blah blah stfu
Quote from: Diomedes on November 03, 2005, 03:23:48 PM
Quote from: Jake on November 03, 2005, 03:18:26 PMIt will be interesting to watch the Skins #1 pass defense against the Eagles #1 pass offense this week. The Eagles rushing offense is last in the league and the Skins rush defense is 25th. Something has to give.
The Eagles don't have the best passing offense in the league, just the most used. Big difference.
Statistically, they average the most passing yards per game.
Quote from: Jake on November 03, 2005, 03:26:42 PM
Quote from: Diomedes on November 03, 2005, 03:23:48 PM
Quote from: Jake on November 03, 2005, 03:18:26 PMIt will be interesting to watch the Skins #1 pass defense against the Eagles #1 pass offense this week. The Eagles rushing offense is last in the league and the Skins rush defense is 25th. Something has to give.
The Eagles don't have the best passing offense in the league, just the most used. Big difference.
Statistically, they average the most passing yards per game.
Completion percentage is the tell all of those types of stats. You can have the most yards in the league, but if your barely completing 50% of your passes, it doesn't mean jack shtein, especially if that is 70% of your offense.
If TO plays, I don't like the Eagles' chances.
Quote from: rjs246 on November 03, 2005, 03:34:31 PM
If TO plays, I don't like the Eagles' chances.
:-D :-D :-D
I knew you were coming back with that. I'm serious when I ask you, are you serious? Seriously.
If you have to ask, you haven't been paying attention.
TO = 70% or more of the plays will be passing plays. Guaranteed.
No TO = forced offensive balance against a team with a really beat up DLine.
Maybe Reid will see the light and run the ball anyway, but with TO playing I can't imagine a scenerio where he starts calling running plays out of the blue.
Quote from: rjs246 on November 03, 2005, 03:46:33 PM
Maybe Reid will see the light and run the ball anyway, but with TO playing I can't imagine a scenerio where he starts calling running plays out of the blue.
that's basically what you have to hope for. hopefully, Reid saw during their comeback that the offense was at its most balanced and will try to match that Sunday. i'm not holding my breath though.
I like how TO's injury went from "2 weeks" to "oops....it's all better" ;D
Sounds like TO is playing. Not sure about DMac though... :-\
i dont even wanna think about WIP next week if mcmahon or detmer were to start and win this game
It would at least provide comical relief.
But that's what I have you guys for.