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Title: Would you give GM to Reid solo and hire Weis as coach?
Post by: pinoyboy2pt0 on October 27, 2005, 03:32:26 AM
As a true troll, I saw this on NFL Network.   JJ has this D playing bonkers right now, if the O plays anywhere near how well our D is playing, we basically breeze by the rest of the season.  Only problem could be Reid would continue to staff the team with passing guys.

Weis is available via a 1.5 million dollar buy-out.  For those that think Reid isn't in the top 5/10...whatever, where do you place Weis? ...ahead of Reid?
Title: Re: Would you give GM to Reid solo and hire Weis as coach?
Post by: QB Eagles on October 27, 2005, 07:16:17 AM
Right, let's run the most successful coach the Eagles have ever had out of town.  ::)
Title: Re: Would you give GM to Reid solo and hire Weis as coach?
Post by: Feva on October 27, 2005, 07:53:37 AM
Get real, you know damn well AR won't run outta town.
Title: Re: Would you give GM to Reid solo and hire Weis as coach?
Post by: rjs246 on October 27, 2005, 08:07:09 AM
I would do it and I think Reid is a top flight coach.
Title: Re: Would you give GM to Reid solo and hire Weis as coach?
Post by: Tomahawk on October 27, 2005, 08:11:08 AM
I don't think an egotistical Reid would go for it.
Title: Re: Would you give GM to Reid solo and hire Weis as coach?
Post by: Sgt PSN on October 27, 2005, 08:13:56 AM
This is an interesting scenario.  The big question would be if Weiss and Reid would see eye to eye on players.  Would Weiss want different players than what the Eagles have?  Would Reid agree with Weiss' player evaluations?  Would Weiss finally be the guy to cut Reno Mahe and would Reid approve? 

I would only do it if Reid decided he wanted to be a full time GM and get out of coaching.  But I don't think I would "force" Reid into that role.  If anything, I would go the other way and hire a GM and make him strictly a coach again. 
Title: Re: Would you give GM to Reid solo and hire Weis as coach?
Post by: Syracuse on October 27, 2005, 08:18:49 AM
We need a RB. Bad.
Title: Re: Would you give GM to Reid solo and hire Weis as coach?
Post by: Rome on October 27, 2005, 08:19:36 AM
 :-D
Title: Re: Would you give GM to Reid solo and hire Weis as coach?
Post by: MadMarchHare on October 27, 2005, 08:26:41 AM
If we were to do something like this, why go outside the fold?  Just promote Childress to HC.
Title: Re: Would you give GM to Reid solo and hire Weis as coach?
Post by: ice grillin you on October 27, 2005, 08:34:10 AM
JJ has this D playing bonkers right now

first off no he doesnt...do you remember the game before sd against dallas??...the birds defense is 20th in the nfl...yes they played well against lt but lets not start sucking our own penis

as for andy hes has had his chance and has proven to not be good enough...yes hes the best coach the eagles have ever had...yes he deserves much credit for what hes done...but we are beyond all that...its time to take it to the next level and win a superbowl...whether weis is that man or not its hard to say...hes eight games into his head coaching career so i wouldnt say hes the man to take over a team on the cusp of a superbowl...but i do know the eagles need someone other than reid to take them to the next level
Title: Re: Would you give GM to Reid solo and hire Weis as coach?
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on October 27, 2005, 08:37:15 AM
No.

I'd go into greater detail but this isn't a plausible scenario.
Title: Re: Would you give GM to Reid solo and hire Weis as coach?
Post by: bobbyinlondon on October 27, 2005, 09:18:09 AM
Quote from: pinoyboy2pt0 on October 27, 2005, 03:32:26 AM
As a true troll, I saw this on NFL Network.   JJ has this D playing bonkers right now, if the O plays anywhere near how well our D is playing, we basically breeze by the rest of the season.  Only problem could be Reid would continue to staff the team with passing guys.

Weis is available via a 1.5 million dollar buy-out.  For those that think Reid isn't in the top 5/10...whatever, where do you place Weis? ...ahead of Reid?

First off, if you're going to give him GM power and ask him to step down as head coach, HE would have the power, as GMs around the league do, of hiring his own coach. Do you think he would bring in Weis?

Second, as another poster said, are you going to judge Weis on ONLY 8 GAMES AS A COLLEGE HEAD COACH to magically anoint him as the next great thing in NFL coaching? The NFL landscape is littered with GREAT COORDINATORS WHO WEREN'T GREAT HEAD COACHES IN THE NFL:

Rich Kotite--he took the Eagles offense to a new level as OC, but we all knew what kind of decision maker he was aas a head coach

Ray Rhodes--another Eagles coach who won all of those Super Bowls in SF as a coordinator. He got the Eagles as far as the divisional round in 1996 and then they collapsed. He went to GB and was equally inept there and was fired after 1 season

Marty Morenwheig--another good coordinator when he was in SF--what happened to him when he went to Detroit??

Greg Williams--another good coordinator with Tennessee, was a bust in Buffalo, and now is doing well again as a coordinator in D.C.

Steve Mariucci--he was OC in SF, before he became head coach. He took the 49ers to a couple of playoff appearances, but with all the talent he had in the latter years there and now in Detroit, he's done nothing.


Lastly, in the NFL right now, if Reid, say were to go to Green Bay next year ( if he could finagle a release from his contract), who woulld you think could take this team to the Super Bowl?

At any rate, Bob Lamonte, who is Weis' agent, has come out and said he's not interested in moving to the NFL right now.
Title: Re: Would you give GM to Reid solo and hire Weis as coach?
Post by: rjs246 on October 27, 2005, 09:23:14 AM
Weis will be an outstanding head coach as long as he has good defensive coordinators. His offensive game-planning, game adjustments and self-scouting was unparralelled in New England and would be a breath of fresh air here.

Of course this scenerio is completely outside the realm of possibility, but the Weis/Reid HC/GM combo would give me a boner.
Title: Re: Would you give GM to Reid solo and hire Weis as coach?
Post by: PhillyPhanInDC on October 27, 2005, 09:25:13 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 27, 2005, 08:34:10 AM
JJ has this D playing bonkers right now

first off no he doesnt...do you remember the game before sd against dallas??...the birds defense is 20th in the nfl...yes they played well against lt but lets not start sucking our own penis

as for andy hes has had his chance and has proven to not be good enough...yes hes the best coach the eagles have ever had...yes he deserves much credit for what hes done...but we are beyond all that...its time to take it to the next level and win a superbowl...whether weis is that man or not its hard to say...hes eight games into his head coaching career so i wouldnt say hes the man to take over a team on the cusp of a superbowl...but i do know the eagles need someone other than reid to take them to the next level

CF has a community penis? I'm glad I missed that memo.  :paranoid
Title: Re: Would you give GM to Reid solo and hire Weis as coach?
Post by: MURP on October 27, 2005, 09:50:28 AM
Quote from: pinoyboy2pt0 on October 27, 2005, 03:32:26 AM
As a true troll, I saw this on NFL Network.

what exactly did you see on the NFL network? 
Title: Re: Would you give GM to Reid solo and hire Weis as coach?
Post by: henchmanUK on October 27, 2005, 09:55:26 AM
Quote from: pinoyboy2pt0 on October 27, 2005, 03:32:26 AM
As a true troll

Who got rid of the hungry hungry hippo filter? BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. >:(
Title: Re: Would you give GM to Reid solo and hire Weis as coach?
Post by: Diomedes on October 27, 2005, 09:57:01 AM
No.  I wouldn't.  Next thread.
Title: Re: Would you give GM to Reid solo and hire Weis as coach?
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on October 27, 2005, 09:57:05 AM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 27, 2005, 08:37:15 AM
No.

I'd go into greater detail but this isn't a plausible scenario.

What he said.
Title: Re: Would you give GM to Reid solo and hire Weis as coach?
Post by: Tomahawk on October 27, 2005, 10:02:01 AM
Quote from: MURP on October 27, 2005, 09:50:28 AM
Quote from: pinoyboy2pt0 on October 27, 2005, 03:32:26 AM
As a true troll, I saw this on NFL Network.

what exactly did you see on the NFL network? 

That Charlie Weis has a buy-out option, set at 1.5 mil (which apparently is chicken feed) on his contract with Notre Dame.
Title: Re: Would you give GM to Reid solo and hire Weis as coach?
Post by: MURP on October 27, 2005, 05:13:20 PM
thanks Thawk.


what Phreak said.


Title: Re: Would you give GM to Reid solo and hire Weis as coach?
Post by: hbionic on October 27, 2005, 05:26:01 PM
Oh, Charlie Weis....I thought that Weis guy (no pun intended) who coached the Bengals years back. Yeah, that douche.
Title: Re: Would you give GM to Reid solo and hire Weis as coach?
Post by: Diomedes on October 27, 2005, 05:26:51 PM
You'd think Chuggie just discovered the word 'douche,' he's been using it so much lately.
Title: Re: Would you give GM to Reid solo and hire Weis as coach?
Post by: pinoyboy2pt0 on October 27, 2005, 06:35:52 PM

As far as the Eagles' D playing bonkers good right now, it is.  RIGHT NOW.  Not 3 weeks ago or 4,5,6... weeks ago.  Of course, they could all get complacent after the S.D. game and have a gave like they did vs Dallas vs the Broncos.

As much failure as there has been with coordinators failing in the NFL as head coach, there's also some who have succeeded.  Of course the failures will stack up more and outnumber than the winners because only 1 team wins a s.b., so you have 31 losers and only 1 winner.  Plus it shifts the odds a little more into failures bc NE won so many damn S.B.'s that past few years.

Quote from: Syracuse on October 27, 2005, 08:18:49 AM
We need a RB. Bad.

NFL Network also said that there are 22 individual running backs with more carries than the entire Eagles team so far.

Playbook (S.S., B.B. and maybe S.W.) also mentioned that this is the team that Andy wanted.  Maybe they can't run the ball because they don't have the guys too.  T.D. (fwiw) also mentioned this.  Instead of a big run blocking FB (who actually plays well) they have Parry over someone like Ritchie.  Instead of a Dunn type TE, we have a Spach.  Instead of a Finoti type player, we have Hicks.  All that added together makes us built for the pass.  They saw that this Eagles' team was 3 points away from winning the Super Bowl.  If they could just tweak what they have, they can make up those 3 points.  So far this year we're passing 77% of the time, but that's what Reid (arguably) wants to do and that's how he built this team.
Title: Re: Would you give GM to Reid solo and hire Weis as coach?
Post by: bobbyinlondon on October 30, 2005, 04:47:55 AM
It's a moot point now since Weis just signed a 10 year deal.
Title: Re: Would you give GM to Reid solo and hire Weis as coach?
Post by: Don Ho on October 30, 2005, 04:55:57 AM
Next dream coach scenario please........................................................
Title: Re: Would you give GM to Reid solo and hire Weis as coach?
Post by: ice grillin you on October 30, 2005, 10:22:41 AM
greg schiano>andy