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QuoteMy prediction of 11-5 was based on my feeling that the Eagles would lose at least two division games this season. I thought the Cowboys and the Giants would each finish over .500 with one of those teams earning a wild-card spot. I felt the taterskins would play good defense, I just wasn't sure about their offense. But I know enough not to underestimate a Hall of Fame coach like Joe Gibbs.
Bottom line, I saw the Eagles repeating as NFC East champions, but this time I felt they would get their hair mussed and maybe even their noses bloodied in the process. So here we are with the Eagles at 3-2 going into the bye week off a wretched 33-10 loss in Dallas. I can't say I'm shocked, although it seems most fans are.
QuoteWatching Sunday's game, I was reminded of the 40-8 whipping Rich Kotite's Eagles put on the San Francisco 49ers in October, 1994. Remember that game? Charlie Garner looked like Gale Sayers, rushing for 111 yards and scoring two touchdowns. The Eagles defense swarmed all over Steve Young until finally coach George Seifert pulled him to spare Young further punishment. It was the most lopsided loss the 49ers had ever suffered at Candlestick Park.
And what did it mean?
In the grand scheme of things, nothing.
The 49ers went on to win 13 regular season games, roll through Chicago (44-15) and Dallas (38-28) in the playoffs and destroy San Diego 49-26 in Super Bowl XXIX. The Eagles went in the opposite direction, losing their final seven games to finish 7-9 as Jeff Lurie, then a rookie owner, fired Kotite at the end of the year.
Even as we were watching that San Francisco game unfold, watching Antone Davis and Lester Holmes blowing open holes for Garner and watching 5-7 cornerback Mark McMillian break up passes intended for Jerry Rice, we knew it was just one of those days. The Eagles couldn't do anything wrong and the 49ers couldn't do anything right, but it didn't mean the Eagles were the better team. On that day, maybe, but not really, not in the long run
Some interesting points. This game would have been better in the sense of accepting the loss if the Eagles looked like they were into the game at all. I didn't see much of the game (I was out of state in Louisiana at the time) but from what I did see it just looked like the Eagles didn't care to try. It was almost like they expected another KC style turn around or something. Meh, I don't know, I'll watch the game later if it recorded right, but I do agree with his overall sentiment. The team has to lose sometime(s), just wish it wasn't to farging Dallas. >:(
he leaves out the small little issue of the team having a qb who may not finish the season and even if he does he cannot play anywhere near his normal ability...why does everyone ignore this fact...if you told ray at the beginning of the year that mcnabb would not be able to scramble and he would need anywhere from a quarter to a half to warm up what would his prediciton of record been then?
im telling you also that the TO locker room effect is being underrated as well...you cant have him and westbrook unhappy all year and be successful...its taking a huge toll...and at the end of the year...when players can speak more freely...ill bet you anything youll hear just how much of a negative impact it had on the team
this team is not winning 11 games
this is what im talking about...if you dont think this kind of stuff has an effect then youre crazy...owens is also basically saying he not going to do everything in his power to help the team win this year...
Eagles Notes Owens says he regrets returning for the Super Bowl
By Shannon Ryan
Inquirer Staff Writer
Last week, Terrell Owens said he would not have joined the Eagles if he could go back in time. This week, he said he would not have played in the Super Bowl.
The wide receiver went against medical advice to play - magnificently - in the Super Bowl after suffering a severe high ankle sprain and fractured fibula. He said he would not be willing to do so now, after his contract dispute with the Eagles.
"No, I wouldn't have," he said during his weekly call-in to a Miami radio station. "I wouldn't have risked my career. I felt like I went over and beyond the call of duty for the team. With the contract situation... I think that my performance speaks for itself. For me being dedicated and trying to get on the field, I thought, would speak volumes."
Recently, Eagles quarterback Donovan McNabb spoke candidly about his belief that the Eagles should pay Brian Westbrook more money. But when asked about Owens' contract demands, McNabb had said that he did not get into other players' contract situations.
When asked yesterday about the quarterback's stances, Owens said: "All I can say is two words: Go figure."
The hosts did not ask any follow-up questions.
Owens also addressed a few topics from the Dallas game Sunday, and not just the Birds' embarrassing 33-10 loss.
After the game, Owens was seen leaving Texas Stadium in a No. 88 Michael Irvin Cowboys jersey. If fans were bothered, Owens said yesterday, they can go shopping for him.
"I have a choice to wear whatever I want to wear," he said. "That's part of my wardrobe. It doesn't matter what the fans think. If they're going to stock my closet with a new wardrobe or if they want to be my fashion stylist for the week, [they can]."
If Owens was not putting himself in other clothes, he was putting himself in someone else's shoes.
He said that had he been the one arguing with his quarterback on the sideline, like Cowboys receiver Keyshawn Johnson did with quarterback Drew Bledsoe, the incident would have received far more coverage.
"Had it been myself, it would have been on every major network in the country," Owens said. "Obviously, people have it out for me. Believe me, it would have been the topic of every sports channel in the country. It's funny how it slipped under the rug."
I think that the way Irvin's always all over his jock, T.O. can wear his jersey if he wants to, especially after getting beaten by the Cowboys. Also, he's dead-on right about the Keyshawn/Bledsoe thing.
Regardless, this team will win 11 games, and it will be easier than some of you think.
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 15, 2005, 07:37:54 AM
this is what im talking about...if you dont think this kind of stuff has an effect then youre crazy...owens is also basically saying he not going to do everything in his power to help the team win this year...
Do me a small favor and find ONE reference T.O. makes towards this year's team. Show me that you're not talking outta your ass and speculating based on what you think is going on.
IGY...pissing people off since 2004!
Quote from: The Waco Kid on October 15, 2005, 05:58:16 PM
IGY...pissing people off since 2004!
I suspect he's been doing it for much longer than that. Maybe not here. But definately somewhere.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on October 15, 2005, 06:04:35 PM
Quote from: The Waco Kid on October 15, 2005, 05:58:16 PM
IGY...pissing people off since 2004!
I suspect he's been doing it for much longer than that. Maybe not here. But definately somewhere.
Yeah, that type of ignorance takes a lot longer than a year or two to develop.
Quote from: EagleFeva on October 15, 2005, 04:02:21 PM
Do me a small favor and find ONE reference T.O. makes towards this year's team. Show me that you're not talking outta your ass and speculating based on what you think is going on.
he said that he wouldn't have helped the team in the Super Bowl last year if he knew what was going to happen this offseason.
it doesn't take a Sherlock Holmes-like mind to conclude that he is carrying that feeling towards the present day team. obviously he can't say it, because that would be another firestorm, but if you don't think he is of that mentality then you are kidding yourself.
At this point, I don't know anyone who gives a shtein what TO says. He's obviously a stupid, selfish moron. Suit him up, play him, and then shut your ears to whatever he says. Squeeze everything you can get out of him and then, if necessary, let him go. He owes his teammates and us fans his best effort. If he doesn't give it, we all lose, but he loses most.
That's fine for the fans, because we don't have to deal with him on a personal level.
But his teammates? We have a couple of immature jackasses in our department, and they make getting the work done harder. They do their job, and pretty well, but it's harder because of all the derisiveness they bring to the table with them. His BS will have an effect.
McNabb certainly didn't help things endorsing Westbrook.
Quote from: Sun_Mo on October 17, 2005, 08:36:58 AM
Quote from: EagleFeva on October 15, 2005, 04:02:21 PM
Do me a small favor and find ONE reference T.O. makes towards this year's team. Show me that you're not talking outta your ass and speculating based on what you think is going on.
he said that he wouldn't have helped the team in the Super Bowl last year if he knew what was going to happen this offseason.
it doesn't take a Sherlock Holmes-like mind to conclude that he is carrying that feeling towards the present day team. obviously he can't say it, because that would be another firestorm, but if you don't think he is of that mentality then you are kidding yourself.
Of course he still feels the same... he's got no more money in his pocket. That's not my point. I'm saying who says he's not giving his all right now?
Quote from: EagleFeva on October 17, 2005, 12:18:57 PM
Quote from: Sun_Mo on October 17, 2005, 08:36:58 AM
Quote from: EagleFeva on October 15, 2005, 04:02:21 PM
Do me a small favor and find ONE reference T.O. makes towards this year's team. Show me that you're not talking outta your ass and speculating based on what you think is going on.
he said that he wouldn't have helped the team in the Super Bowl last year if he knew what was going to happen this offseason.
it doesn't take a Sherlock Holmes-like mind to conclude that he is carrying that feeling towards the present day team. obviously he can't say it, because that would be another firestorm, but if you don't think he is of that mentality then you are kidding yourself.
Of course he still feels the same... he's got no more money in his pocket. That's not my point. I'm saying who says he's not giving his all right now?
no one is saying that, but he isn't saying that about last year either, he is saying he wouldn't have gone the extra mile to get back to the super bowl if he knew how things would play out...
either way, f TO (until he gets on the field)
Quote from: Sun_Mo on October 17, 2005, 12:21:33 PM
Quote from: EagleFeva on October 17, 2005, 12:18:57 PM
Quote from: Sun_Mo on October 17, 2005, 08:36:58 AM
Quote from: EagleFeva on October 15, 2005, 04:02:21 PM
Do me a small favor and find ONE reference T.O. makes towards this year's team. Show me that you're not talking outta your ass and speculating based on what you think is going on.
he said that he wouldn't have helped the team in the Super Bowl last year if he knew what was going to happen this offseason.
it doesn't take a Sherlock Holmes-like mind to conclude that he is carrying that feeling towards the present day team. obviously he can't say it, because that would be another firestorm, but if you don't think he is of that mentality then you are kidding yourself.
Of course he still feels the same... he's got no more money in his pocket. That's not my point. I'm saying who says he's not giving his all right now?
no one is saying that, but he isn't saying that about last year either, he is saying he wouldn't have gone the extra mile to get back to the super bowl if he knew how things would play out...
Well... IGY did... and that's what I was calling him out on.
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 15, 2005, 07:37:54 AM
this is what im talking about...if you dont think this kind of stuff has an effect then youre crazy...owens is also basically saying he not going to do everything in his power to help the team win this year...
Quoteeither way, f TO (until he gets on the field)
Damn right...
he said that he wouldn't have helped the team in the Super Bowl last year if he knew what was going to happen this offseason.
it doesn't take a Sherlock Holmes-like mind to conclude that he is carrying that feeling towards the present day team. obviously he can't say it, because that would be another firestorm, but if you don't think he is of that mentality then you are kidding yourself.
what he said
if you really think TO would give his all for this organization then your lying to yourself...but thats secondary to what his and westbrooks situations are doing to this team