The bye week is our evaluation period. Eagles don't play so we can sit back and dissect everything. I think everyone here predicted the Eagles to go to the Superbowl. So here we are 3-2, coming off our worst defeat in a few years. Do you still think the Eagles are going to the Superbowl?
Do you still have faith or is there just too much to overcome right now?
Mark me down for one that still believes.
The Eagles are still the best in the NFC until proven otherwise. IE: in the postseason.
The Eagles lose the rest of their games ; finish 3-13 and draft Matt Leinart!
Hell yeah I still believe. They're the best in the NFC still. While I don't like that they're 3-2 now or that they're struggling I think the close games will help 'em in the long run.
A. I will always believe in this team
B. I believe it is quite obvious the birds have some issues
C. I believe that "the window" has not closed, the rest of the division has improved, dramatically and we had all better face it. We are in for a dog fight within our own division.
D. This coming weekend will tell us a lot as the Giants go into Dallas and how will Washington bounce back at KC.
Read my avatar and sig. That says it all.
I think the 49ers are going to make the superbowl. they are clearly the best team in the NFC. word.
Well they do Have Thornburg now.
I think the Eagles are still the best overall team in the NFC. It will take a strong run at the end of the season and into the playoffs to propel them to a Super Bowl win, but they are capable of it.
I said all along I'd be happy with 3-2 at the bye. Only problem is they lost the two most important games IMO.
I told a bragging Cowboy fan on the EMB yesterday that this day was bound to happen. After all, how many years and games can you absolutely dominate one opponent? The Giants dominated us for 9 games; the Cowboys in the 70s and early 80s dominated the Eagles. And when you consider that MOST of the dominating came in Texas Stadium, it was only a matter of time when they would get one.
The Eagles, in the last 5 years have been blown out at least once during the season and they've always come back. The schedule helps out a bit as they play 2 out of their last 3 division games at home, while after Sunday, the Cowboys have to go on the road for the rest of their division games.
Looking at the other divisions in the NFC, I can't really see more than one team coming out of the North, West, or even South. Carolina is inconsistent, Atlanta now has major injury problems, and Tampa Bay has yet to play divisional games yet.
Reid said he was going to take the week to look at the problems and fix them. Special teams is a major problem right now, and I refuse to believe what most fans believe, and that is the non-signing of Ike Reese has affected the STs--what about the other 10 guys on that team. I'd even support Westbrook going back on PRs, if that is what it takes to get us going.
One other constant after the bye week in recent years--Reid has ALWAYS gone back to putting more run plays into the gameplan--and that would be a huge help.
they werent going to make it anyway...regardless of the outcome of the dallas game...its very hard to come back and make a superbowl after you lose one...not to mention five straight nfc championship games would be unreal...now with mcnabb hurt everyone around them better than the eagles not as good...doesnt bode well
at the start of the year i was thinking 10-11 wins...but now with mcnabb hurt looking more like 9-7
Dallas will beat the Eagles in the NFCCG. You heard it here first.
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Yes. Nothing has shown otherwise. I actually think the Dallas game will HELP the Birds in the long run. It showed the players that they are not just "that good" and bring them down to earth. It showed the coaches, Reid in particular, that you need to run the ball more and that you need to call more blitz beating plays (screens, counters, etc.).
Atlanta and Tampa will continue to get beaten up in the fight for that division. I see nothing in the NFC West or North that would be considered a threat. Eagles still the best in the NFC, but can really only afford to lose 1 more NFC East game...or the division could be a fight.
Quote from: rjs246 on October 11, 2005, 09:08:37 AM
Well they do Have Thornburg now.
Dick Thornburg! The former Governor of PA? What a turncoat. It would be acceptable if he was in Pittsburgh, but San Fran ! Is he gay?
A BOLD prediction by PFT:
QuoteThe Eagles are still the team to beat in the NFC, and we figure that the "real" media will come back around on this one after they rattle off wins against the Chargers, Broncos, and taterskins in their next three games.
ill bet anyone on this board ANYTHING they want that the eagles dont go 3-0 in that span...hell id bet something slighty less than anything that they dont even go 2-1
Quote from: Sgt PSN on October 11, 2005, 01:40:08 AM
The Eagles are still the best in the NFC until proven otherwise. IE: in the postseason.
Exactamundo!
it is way to early to predict doomsday already. I mean seriously. Thats just unreasonable and irrational.
The bye week came at exactly the right time. Get some nagging injuries times to heal and regroup.
it is way to early to predict doomsday already. I mean seriously. Thats just unreasonable and irrational
no one is giving a doomsday scenario but to say the eagles are winning their next three is crazy...in fact the next five games is a brutal streak...3-2 would be a great result...putting them at 6-4 and set up for a run over the last six...games that are overall much easier
Well, IGY, I'm really hoping that Florio knows better than you. ;D
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 12, 2005, 09:58:37 AM
it is way to early to predict doomsday already. I mean seriously. Thats just unreasonable and irrational
no one is giving a doomsday scenario but to say the eagles are winning their next three is crazy...in fact the next five games is a brutal streak...3-2 would be a great result...putting them at 6-4 and set up for a run over the last six...games that are overall much easier
IGY I actually agree with you. I hope I am wrong but 3-2 over this brutal 5 game stretch will put the birds in a favorable position. I doubt very much any team in the NFC will be 8-2. Couple at 7-3, maybe. 6-4 ain't shabby with a relatively excellent chance to take the next six games - 4 @ the Linc and 2 on the road(St. Louis and Arizona where we all know the Cards will give us a battle).
Last year was our best chance, but if we get to the postseason with all of our impact players healthy, hell yes we can do it.
I just really don't know why everyone thinks the taterskins are so special.
Can anyone point to a game where anyone was really impressed with their offense? Their defense looks suspect at times as well.
The Broncos could be tough, and I'm glad we have the Chargers at home.
I don't think winning those three games is out of the question, and Andy Reid has proved to be very good at game planning coming off of a loss. Most of those games will be close, but I don't see a clear cut reason why winning those three is out of the question.
Yeah, we're still going. The fact of the matter is, with all the issues we have... everyone else in the NFC still has more holes than we do.
Just gotta start running the damn ball.
I just really don't know why everyone thinks the taterskins are so special.
The Broncos could be tough
i dont think anyone is saying the skins are 'so special'....but if not for a questionable call the taterskins would have won at denver against a 'tough' broncos team
Last year was our best chance
totally agree...it hurts to this day that they didnt win it last year because as much as it could everything went right...the whole year just had a magical aura to it...that happens once every 25 years if youre lucky...
other than mcnabbs injury this year...which in itself is a huge detriment to getting back...the thing imo that is hurting them most is the team chemistry...owens being a miserable prick...westbrook grudgingly going thru the motions a lot of the time and mcnabb being mr pouty is killing this team more than anyone will admit...
When is McNabb being Mr. Pouty?
All's I know is they better get their shtein straight this week. Like Trotter said ... "It's time to start sucker punching people".
it seems like every year they have one of these embarassing loses that knocks them down a peg and gets them angry.
i expect them to come out mean, fast, and sharp against the chargers.
Problem is that might still not be enough, if LT gets 180 yds rushing.....
i wouldnt worry as much about his rushing as his receptions...good god is he gonna eat the eagle linebackers for lunch
IGY, is that guy, who is obviously in pain, having the siezure on your avatar you? Just wondering.
It looks like Marlon Wayans.
IGY, is that guy, who is obviously in pain, having the siezure on your avatar you? Just wondering
hell no...im whiter than kirk cameron
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 13, 2005, 11:28:26 AM
IGY, is that guy, who is obviously in pain, having the siezure on your avatar you? Just wondering
hell no...im whiter than kirk cameron
Powder
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 13, 2005, 11:28:26 AM
IGY, is that guy, who is obviously in pain, having the siezure on your avatar you? Just wondering
hell no...im whiter than kirk cameron
Yeah, but are you Bob Saget from Full House white?
Quote from: stillupfront on October 13, 2005, 10:23:32 AM
IGY, is that guy, who is obviously in pain, having the siezure on your avatar you? Just wondering.
I was thinking the same thing :-D
Everyone still on board? :-D
What the hell, count me in. If I give up now what will I be watching the games for.
no matter how dissapointed i am right now, i dont give up on the team. we all bleed green for a reason...not to just abandon ship. sounds optimistic but we are 4-3...we have three straight division games up....we win all three and i bet we are sitting pretty on top in the nfc east.
I still think they have a shot. This season ain't over by any means.
Their schedule is favorable towards the end if they can get by this WAS, DAL, NYG stretch in good shape.
September & October = not much meaning in the grand scheme of things
November & December = when you need to be clicking
As long as they're clicking when the playoffs starts, they'll be fine.
Adversity could be a good thing for them to face. Last year they blew everyone out. this year it ain't easy. Maybe that'll be a good thing in the long run?
Thinking the SB is a pipe dream won't make me any less miserable when they aren't in it.
I'll continue to watch every snap of every game, but I really think a playoff spot is question mark, the SB is not possible.
Prove me wrong, Andy. RUN THE fargING BALL!
they will make the playoffs, but unless something changes with the defense they won't make the SB because they won't have home field for at least the NFCCG
Feces.
i can't give up on them either, but like is said before, with McNabb injured and not willing to get surgery, the offensive gameplan is going to have to switch it up. more runs, more runs, more runs.
the defense is not consistent. we can't leave it up to them to win us the game.
Right now, we can't count on the D to not lose the game.
There is no way in hell this team WINS the Super Bowl this year. NO WAY.
So... why does it matter if they make it to the game or not?
i have absolutley no faith in this defense anymore.
from here out, it would actually be a relief to get out of the 1st quarter without spotting the opponent 13 points.
i think the offense will come back to life, in fact, it was starting to yesterday. but the defense, from top to bottom, was just farging bad.
Quote from: FFatPatt on October 31, 2005, 10:34:08 AM
There is no way in hell this team WINS the Super Bowl this year. NO WAY.
So... why does it matter if they make it to the game or not?
Exactly.
Quote from: FFatPatt on October 31, 2005, 10:34:08 AM
There is no way in hell this team WINS the Super Bowl this year. NO WAY.
So... why does it matter if they make it to the game or not?
Thats a load of corn poo. Once you get to the game, anyone can pull off one great game. See Tampa Bay, they were not as good as the score of that SB.
If they make it to the SB, that means they're playing good and there would be no reason they can't win it.
That being said, no way they even make it there with the recent offensive gameplan, if there even is one.
As this team stands today, they may not even make it to the post season.
The Eagles arent the best in the NFC with damaged goods under center. But also the Giants and others just arent nearly as good as their record.
Honestly, I still have a hard time believing that this team is not a playoff team. At this point, we're 1 game behind for the best record in the NFC... we've got a favorable schedule down the stretch with 5 out of 8 games at home. We're looking at 3 straight NFC East games. It's there for the taking.
My problem is that it's nowhere near good enough for me to just be a playoff team. The way this team is going, it looks like one and done. This team NEEDS to be in Detroit playing for it all to even think about this as a successful season. In no other season have I said that concerning the Eagles but I honestly feel that way now.
I'm as optimistic as they come, and I'll never abandon this team... but if there are some serious changes made, this team has no shot at a SB. Now, that's not to say that the changes can't be made. It can't be a coincidence that when we started running the ball yesterday, the offense looked to be moving better than it had all season outside of the Niner game. I just pray that Andy took notice and adjusts.
Quote from: EagleFeva on October 31, 2005, 11:36:06 AM
Honestly, I still have a hard time believing that this team is not a playoff team. At this point, we're 1 game behind for the best record in the NFC... we've got a favorable schedule down the stretch with 5 out of 8 games at home. We're looking at 3 straight NFC East games. It's there for the taking.
My problem is that it's nowhere near good enough for me to just be a playoff team. The way this team is going, it looks like one and done. This team NEEDS to be in Detroit playing for it all to even think about this as a successful season. In no other season have I said that concerning the Eagles but I honestly feel that way now.
I'm as optimistic as they come, and I'll never abandon this team... but if there are some serious changes made, this team has no shot at a SB. Now, that's not to say that the changes can't be made. It can't be a coincidence that when we started running the ball yesterday, the offense looked to be moving better than it had all season outside of the Niner game. I just pray that Andy took notice and adjusts.
McNabb is still the man to lead this team, but i just think unless AR opens his mind to some criticism and take advice from others the offense problem will never be righted. As for this year, i think the Eagles could still win the division but they are not a SB winning team.
The 2001 Patriots were 3-4 after 7 games and had just lost by double-digits in Denver. Just saying.... :sly
The Eagles probably get into the playoffs. They probably won't have home field advantage. I don't think they even make the SB right now. That said I've seen Andy pull a rabbit out of his hat.
Get the Rabbit!
That team also had an injured quarterback that actually was replaced by a healthy player.
Quote from: FFatPatt on October 31, 2005, 11:44:50 AM
That team also had an injured quarterback that actually was replaced by a healthy player.
Not to mention that healthy QB was just dreamy! Those dimples... those blue eyes... they were to DIE FOR! Us? We've got Neckbeard. :-\
Koy > Tom Brady, duh :deion
I'd love to see Koy throw 50 times a game.
It would be the awesomest thing ever and you know it.
Quote from: BigEd76 on October 31, 2005, 11:41:15 AM
The 2001 Patriots were 3-4 after 7 games and had just lost by double-digits in Denver. Just saying....
They also had a coach who knew how to make in-game adjustments and call the occasional running play.
more so than the offense my concern is with the D...what the hell happened? coming into the season we were expected to have our best D possibly ever. the run D wouldnt be the strength we all knew that but even the pass D is crappy this yr.
Maybe Andy Hall is the next Brady.......... :puke
wouldnt that be a big kick in the crotch.
In that case, we better sign him quick! GET HALL!