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Title: For CFers with families
Post by: Father Demon on October 07, 2005, 04:00:50 PM
Map to sex offenders (http://www.familywatchdog.us/)


An interesting website. Click on the free map and type in your info.

Scary how close to home some of them are to schools and stuff.  Luckily, the nearest to me is about 3/4 of a mile.

Sadly, PA isn't available.  What's up with that?
Title: Re: For CFers with families
Post by: MURP on October 07, 2005, 04:14:03 PM
that is disturbing. 
Title: Re: For CFers with families
Post by: hbionic on October 07, 2005, 04:30:22 PM
The one crazy thing would be if one day the robots would make all of our personality characteristics available to the public and we all had access to those maps for example

Sex Offenders
Arsonists
People With Cancer
People With Heart Problems
Republicans
The Depressed
Disabled
Heteros
etc.,

That would be one hell of a way to discriminate against people. Looking at it, aren't these part of and FBI background investigation?
Title: Re: For CFers with families
Post by: DutchBird on October 07, 2005, 05:20:12 PM
On the other hand,

sex offender itself is a way too broad category... it could range from the rapist, kiddy-porn distributor or child-molester to a videostore owner selling legal (involving consenting adults) porn which some prude DA finds offensive. (http://www.2theadvocate.com/stories/100605/sub_rejects001.shtml) Or maybe even a couple caught getting it on in nature...

While the first group would sincerely worry me, the second group poses, IMHO, no harm to society. And to have these painted with a broad brush is completely wrong and unfair. Besides the fact that mistakes are easily made with these kinds of sites... in fact, not too long ago there was a family whose life was destroyed because a similar site/organization screwed up and overzealous neighbours became vigilantes, apart from spreading rumors and turning the kids' life into a hell...
Title: Re: For CFers with families
Post by: hbionic on October 07, 2005, 06:15:11 PM
Also, I believe that if you are caught having sex in public, like the backseat of a car, you can also fall under this label.
Title: Re: For CFers with families
Post by: rjs246 on October 07, 2005, 06:36:24 PM
What if you sexually offend yourself and your ladyfriend on a regular basis? Is there a map to me on there?
Title: Re: For CFers with families
Post by: Father Demon on October 07, 2005, 09:52:12 PM
I agree with you, Dutch.

An 18 year old having consensual sex with his 17 year old girlfriend can be convicted of sex with a minor, labeling him a sex offender.  Taking a leak outside can land you an indecent exposure snag, and you're branded for life as a sex offender.

There are a lot of thinigs that, as said, don't make a person a threat to society.  But, even so, I'm fine with seeing where the rapists live.  And then going over to take a dump on their lawn.
Title: Re: For CFers with families
Post by: NGM on October 07, 2005, 09:57:55 PM
Quote from: DemonchildrenOnTurf on October 07, 2005, 09:52:12 PM
I agree with you, Dutch.

An 18 year old having consensual sex with his 17 year old girlfriend can be convicted of sex with a minor, labeling him a sex offender.  Taking a leak outside can land you an indecent exposure snag, and you're branded for life as a sex offender.

There are a lot of thinigs that, as said, don't make a person a threat to society.  But, even so, I'm fine with seeing where the rapists live.  And then going over to take a dump on their lawn.

I was under the impression that, at least in PA, that a two year difference is required before statutory laws could be affected.  Meaning 16-18 is okay, however, 16-14 is not because the cutoff is 15.  I very well could be wrong but that is what I was told in my PES class 4 years ago.
Title: Re: For CFers with families
Post by: Father Demon on October 07, 2005, 10:41:19 PM
It's a state-by-state thing.

Age of Consent (http://www.avert.org/aofconsent.htm)
Title: Re: For CFers with families
Post by: Geowhizzer on October 08, 2005, 08:36:01 AM
Here's the national registry. (http://www.nsopr.gov/)
Title: Re: For CFers with families
Post by: Rome on October 08, 2005, 12:23:51 PM
It's amazing how many cultures have outlawed lesbo sex.

WTF could they be thinking?

:o :paranoid
Title: Re: For CFers with families
Post by: Sgt PSN on October 08, 2005, 12:28:39 PM
Quote from: DemonchildrenOnTurf on October 07, 2005, 10:41:19 PM
It's a state-by-state thing.

Age of Consent (http://www.avert.org/aofconsent.htm)

Country                                  male/female     male/male    female/female

Canada                                    12/14/18         12/14/18        12/14/18

Papua - New Guinea                      16                 illegal               16 

Sri Lanka                                     16                 illegal               16

So in Canada it's ok for 12 year olds to have sex?  Am I reading that right? 

And in Papua and Sri Lanka, gay men are not accepted but lesbo's are totally cool?  Awesome.  Hypocritical as hell.  But awesome.  :-D
Title: Re: For CFers with families
Post by: BigEd76 on October 08, 2005, 01:42:16 PM
Quote from: DemonchildrenOnTurf on October 07, 2005, 04:00:50 PM
Sadly, PA isn't available.  What's up with that?

http://www.pameganslaw.state.pa.us/

One of the guys in the Trevose/Bensalem area went to middle school and high school with me...  :paranoid
Title: Re: For CFers with families
Post by: MDS on October 08, 2005, 01:50:49 PM
I've got 4 pervs livin in my town. Good fun.
Title: Re: For CFers with families
Post by: Eagles76ersFan on October 08, 2005, 01:58:09 PM
Quote from: BigEd76 on October 08, 2005, 01:42:16 PM
Quote from: DemonchildrenOnTurf on October 07, 2005, 04:00:50 PM
Sadly, PA isn't available.  What's up with that?

http://www.pameganslaw.state.pa.us/

One of the guys in the Trevose/Bensalem area went to middle school and high school with me...  :paranoid

mmm..Trevose. I could go for some nice Trevose Pizza.

Hah. A dad of some kid who I went to high school with at Neshaminy is on the Langhorne list.
Title: Re: For CFers with families
Post by: Diomedes on October 08, 2005, 02:08:00 PM
The whole thing smacks of The Scarlet Letter a bit too much for me.
Title: Re: For CFers with families
Post by: MDS on October 08, 2005, 02:16:33 PM
Quote from: Diomedes on October 08, 2005, 02:08:00 PM
The whole thing smacks of The Scarlet Letter a bit too much for me.

wouldnt you like to know if some pedofile moved in next to you? hey can you watch my kids for an hour might be question you avoid askin, ya think?
Title: Re: For CFers with families
Post by: Diomedes on October 08, 2005, 02:38:24 PM
I didn't say child molesters should be allowed to set themselves up as day care providers.  I'm just not comfortable with the public listing of names in this fashion.  Others have already mentioned how easily one can end up on these lists, and I'm sure you can imagine how devastating it must be to be erroneously listed.  I have reservations about this kind of law.
Title: Re: For CFers with families
Post by: MDS on October 08, 2005, 02:45:23 PM
If hbionic ever enlists, male/male sex is illegal. He'll be in high hell!
Title: Re: For CFers with families
Post by: rjs246 on October 08, 2005, 02:52:38 PM
The whole premise of our legal system is to offer the opportunity to rehabilitate. Lists like this are a big middle finger to that concept. So on the one hand I agree with Dio. On the other hand, habitual offenders or those at risk to become habitual make me want to stomp some skulls. I'm torn.

Eight year olds, Dude.
Title: Re: For CFers with families
Post by: Susquehanna Birder on October 08, 2005, 03:29:15 PM
Quote from: Diomedes on October 08, 2005, 02:08:00 PM
The whole thing smacks of The Scarlet Letter a bit too much for me.

Same here. I'm all for the safety of kids, but the positives of this system are almost outweighed by the negatives.
Title: Re: For CFers with families
Post by: Rome on October 08, 2005, 04:12:28 PM
It occurs to me that if you've paid your debt to society, there's no reason for further punishment and that's exactly what those lists afford.

On the other hand, if someone ever hurt my child, they'd be deader than dead.  Like the man in the movie said, I'd give them a blood transfusion just to make the torture last longer.
Title: Re: For CFers with families
Post by: Geowhizzer on October 08, 2005, 07:55:28 PM
I've with Romey on this one.  If someone harms my son, they won't have to worry about being on some government list.  They'll have to worry about me finding them first.  :evil
Title: Re: For CFers with families
Post by: Sgt PSN on October 08, 2005, 08:36:22 PM
Quote from: Diomedes on October 08, 2005, 02:38:24 PM
I didn't say child molesters should be allowed to set themselves up as day care providers. I'm just not comfortable with the public listing of names in this fashion. Others have already mentioned how easily one can end up on these lists, and I'm sure you can imagine how devastating it must be to be erroneously listed. I have reservations about this kind of law.

I get what you're saying but gotta disagree.  You don't have kids so you're not looking at it from a parents point of view.  If there's a sex offender living in my neighborhood I damn sure want to know about it.  Is it fair if someone's name is on the list because he/she get's caught doing it a parked car or something?  No, of course not.  And perhaps the law could be modified to distinguish the difference between the two. 

But if you're a convicted sex offender (rapist, child molester, child porn maker/dealer, etc) then you have given up your right to privacy imo.  I don't care about the amount of time they did in prison and if their so called "debt to society" has been paid because it hasn't.  If they're on the streets then there is always a chance they could be repeat offenders and parents have a right to know if a potential threat is looming on the streets they let their children play in.  Women have the right to know if there are rapists living in their apartment buildings.