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SHOCKEY RIPS PLAX BENCHING
By DAN MARTIN
Plaxico Burress and Jeremy Shockey were both thrilled with the way Eli Manning handled himself in front of the hostile crowd in San Diego — a group that refused to forget Manning had spurned them nearly 18 months ago.
And they both feel the outcome of the 45-23 defeat could have been different had Burress not been kept off the field in the first quarter by coach Tom Coughlin for being late to team meetings.
"I understand his point, but it's really not fair," Shockey said of Coughlin's decision to bench Burress early. "It affects the whole team."
Burress scored a touchdown in the second quarter, his second as a Giant. He finished with five catches for 52 yards.
"What can you do," Shockey asked. "As players, we play. Coaches coach. But you should have your best players on the field. The whole offense suffered from him not being out there."
Burress entered the game early in the second for the Giants' third possession. He was on the sideline when the Giants stalled near the goal line on their first possession.
"I was late to a couple of meetings," Burress said. "He decided to sit me on the bench to prove a point, I guess. I tried to brush it off and keep my head in the game. I don't think it helped us on that first drive. We couldn't run a couple of plays."
Burress, a free-agent signee from the Steelers, said he learned of the move just hours before the game when he was reviewing the playbook in his hotel room.
"Sometimes things just happen," said Burress, who added that he was tardy by Coughlin's rule that dictates you need to be five minutes early to meetings.
Coughlin didn't address the situation during his press conference.
Eli Manning, who played, by far, his best game as a pro, was frustrated by the loss more than he was excited by his flashy stats. He said Burress' absence was felt.
"On third and one, he would have made a big difference," said Manning, who went 24-for-41 for 352 yards and two touchdowns. "I'm not disappointed in him. He knows what happened. He's learned from his mistakes. I don't think it will happen again."
Burress wasn't so sure.
"If it happens again, it happens," Burress said. "I don't know why I had to sit, but that's why we're called professionals."
Shockey, who made some excellent plays but let a perfectly thrown Manning pass bounce off his facemask, thought a monetary punishment would have been sufficient.
"He pretty much knows [what he did wrong] when you get fined," said Shockey, who worked out with Burress in the offseason at the University of Miami. "It might have been different on that first drive if he had been out there. It's hard having less players on the field."
The Giants' porous defense and inability to get the ball into the end zone when they had the opportunity took some of the luster off of Manning's breakout performance, but not all of it.
"We lost, that's the bottom line, but people saw what he can do," Shockey said. "You can't play in a rougher environment. He's going to be here a long time. You can expect to see that on a regular basis."
Manning admitted that he was relieved to get past the Chargers game. "It's good to put this behind us and concentrate on football," Manning said. "I play to win games. I don't care about numbers or stats. The first two games I didn't play real well and we won the game. I'll take that."
Still, if Manning turns out to be the quarterback the Giants expect him to be, they will likely point to Sunday's loss as a turning point.
"He played very well in the situation he was in," Coughlin said. "He made a lot of big plays. He displayed great composure and poise. It was obviously a step up in the progress and growth. Certainly, with his performance, he again raised the level of expectation."
wah wah wah
Coughlin is a hard ass. I can totally understand why these two grown men are complaining about being punished for being late. I mean, it just isn't fair for their boss to make them accountable in any way for their actions. I totally feel their pain.
Quote from: rjs246 on September 27, 2005, 12:10:48 PM
Coughlin is a hard ass. I can totally understand why these two grown men are complaining about being punished for being late. I mean, it just isn't fair for their boss to make them accountable in any way for their actions. I totally feel their pain.
:-D :-D :-D
Why was this a breakout performance for Manning? Shouldn't prerequisite for the label "breakout" being applied be that the QB actually lead his team to a victory?
I can't stand Coughlin. And Shockey can suck my balls. Plastic-ho, meh--he's a bitch.
Glad to see them all getting along so well.
Coughlin and Parcells both need to be put in a steel cage death match.
Quote from: Avenger on September 27, 2005, 04:04:51 PM
Coughlin and Parcells both need to be put in a steel cage death match.
Anyone that can't smote the shtein out of Parcells in a fight deserves to be force-fed their own taint.
So Gibbs and Tuna it is then.
Quote from: General_Failure on September 27, 2005, 04:14:57 PM
So Gibbs and Tuna it is then.
I predict Gibbs will be eating some Gibbs brand taint after that.
Quote from: Tomahawk on September 27, 2005, 03:22:52 PM
Shouldn't prerequisite for the label "breakout" being applied be that the QB actually lead his team to a victory?
Unless the QB is Mike Vick. Then it means something else entirely.
Yeah, then it means 195 yards passing and 3 INTs. :yay
Quote from: General_Failure on September 27, 2005, 07:11:31 PM
Yeah, then it means 195 yards passing and 3 INTs. :yay
When did Favre enter the conversation?
Quote from: TexasEagle on September 27, 2005, 07:44:35 PM
Quote from: General_Failure on September 27, 2005, 07:11:31 PM
Yeah, then it means 195 yards passing and 3 INTs. :yay
When did Favre enter the conversation?
I thought he was talking about Bledsoe.
But Bledsoe's actually won a game this year. :paranoid
I just learned that the Giants scored three (3) points in the entire second half. That must have been some fine farging play from the QB to lead that kind of scoring onslaught.
QuoteMORE THAN MEETS THE EYE ON PLAX FLAP
As Giants coach Tom Coughlin continues to defend his decision to bench receiver Plaxico Burress during the first quarter of Sunday night's loss to the Chargers, we've picked up more details regarding the events that resulted in Plax getting parked on the pine.
Word is that the root of the problem was an argument last week between Burress and offensive coordinator John Hufnagel. Hufnagel, we hear, swore at Burress after Burress jumped early during a play in practice.
We also hear that the locker room consternation resulting from the benching of Burress resulted in large part from the fact that the team announced the move late. If they'd known for example on Friday, then the players might not have reacted so negatively to the move.
With all that said, it's not like the temporary absence of Burress made a difference -- unless the Giants would have scored an extra 23 points in the first quarter. They lost by 22, folks, and gave up 45.
Speaking of the Giants' porous defense, the Soup Nazi is tinkering with his linebackers. Reggie Torbor heads for the bench, and Carlos Emmons is moving from the weak side to the strong side. Nick Griesen will start on the weak side.
Aside from the Plexiglass issue...I knew moving Emmons to WIL would be dumb. I believe I posted about it when it happened. You don't take a premier SAM 'backer out of his element and move him to WIL.
Giants scapegoat of the week: REGGIE TORBOR.
Might not be much movement afterall. Emmons has an owie in his knee and everyday the story changes of whether he's even gonna play.
An ex-Eagle with a bumb knee? I don't believe it.
Shocking. I know.
Plaxico has looked very good since they put him in at the second quarter, with two TD's. But the G-men have let the Rams back into the game. Rams sliced a 20 pt. lead in half, and are down by just 10 with a little momentum.
Burress looks pretty darn good in NY....whoda thunk it?
That offense is potent...but the defense is giving up a ton too.
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lol
That's gayer than ice skating. Wow.
Tiki, its whats for dinner.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 02, 2005, 08:39:51 PM
Burress looks pretty darn good in NY....whoda thunk it?
That offense is potent...but the defense is giving up a ton too.
They're not giving up much, actually, minus that bastid Tomlinson last week. (Can't really be bothered by it now though 'cause he lights up Ds period. Again, that bastid. LOL)
Eli-Burress is turning out to be a more lethal combo then even the most homeriffic Giants fan could've hoped for, or predicted.
I'll take it. ;D
I can't be any happier than I am right now with Manning. Other than trying to force the ball to Shockey a couple of times, he is exceeding any expectations I've had for him at this point in his career.
Me a happy biotch, period. :=)
Plaxico is pretty good. I don't expect him to put up another 200 yard receiving day this season(or the rest of his career for that matter), but they are pretty good. Not in the top 5 or even top 10 as QB WR combos, but still pretty good considering how brutal Eli is.
Quote from: BlueHeart on October 03, 2005, 10:50:54 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 02, 2005, 08:39:51 PM
Burress looks pretty darn good in NY....whoda thunk it?
That offense is potent...but the defense is giving up a ton too.
They're not giving up much, actually, minus that bastid Tomlinson last week. (Can't really be bothered by it now though 'cause he lights up Ds period. Again, that bastid. LOL)
Eli-Burress is turning out to be a more lethal combo then even the most homeriffic Giants fan could've hoped for, or predicted.
I'll take it. ;D
I can't be any happier than I am right now with Manning. Other than trying to force the ball to Shockey a couple of times, he is exceeding any expectations I've had for him at this point in his career.
Me a happy biotch, period. :=)
What are they going to do about the loss of Peterson? Keep Deloatch in there? Will Webster eventually start?
I'm counting the days until Eli is re-introduced to the Birds defense, missy. ;D
Avenger: I don't think anyone expected him having a 200+ yard game. I don't imagine it will be a common occurence either, but, shall they come, I will receive them with joy. LOL
Phreak: At this point, I dunno if even Coughlin knows what's going to happen at RCB. It's probably going to continue being a rotation until he (Herr Coughlin) is fully confident in plugging one of the kids in there full-time. He's been shuffling players from both sides in that slot. It's not ideal, but, it's working so far. *shrug*
I like doing it that way anyway. Gets them both experience and gives us a chance to see what they can do. Both of them have the ability to be amazing players, but, and I don't know if it's lack of experience or what, they can both be hellaciously inconsistent. Make your eyes pop out one second and cringe the next. LOL
As for your D and Eli... you guys already tried to break him in half and he popped right back off like it never happened. I'm not worried.
And I don't think he is either. :P