I am going to start reading "A Sunday Pilgrimage" by Gargano tonight... I'm posting it here instead of the book thread becuase of all the Eagle quotes that I found in that NBC review of the book. Make note of TO's interaction with burkholders daughter...he's not the icehole that everyone thinks he is.
Here's the review on it: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9311448/
Quote"When TO was in San Francisco, I thought he was an icehole," former Eagle great Harold Carmichael told me in October. "Then you get to know him, he's not. He's just one of those guys you hate playing against. I did the same stuff he does when I played. Back then we only had one camera. Now I understand him, and I think it's good to have a swagger."
QuoteWith Owens' status as a free agent apparently nil, the Eagles began trade discussions with San Francisco and thought they had come to terms on March 4, the day they introduced their other marquee signing, Jevon Kearse. "That was a complete fiasco," Heckert said. "They gave us a list of four players, including Brandon (Whiting), and wanted a fourth-rounder. Thought it was done. They gave us permission to talk to (Owens' agent) and we worked out a deal. There was apparently an understanding between (49ers GM Terry Donahue) and TO's agent that they would get to work out a contract before he was traded. So we go down for a press conference for Kearse and we find out they traded him to Baltimore. They tried to screw him. We called Baltimore right away but they didn't want to make a trade."
QuoteBut Myerson knew what Burkholder was getting at. Under pressure from Owens' attorneys, fearing a malpractice claim, Myerson said there was no way he would clear him to play against the Falcons.
"He was actually ready to play in that game," Burkholder said.
Tuesday night, Andy Reid stopped in to see Burkholder.
"What's the deal with TO?" he asked.
"Myerson won't let him play," Burkholder said.
"Why not?"
"Doctor's being stubborn. The attorneys are getting to him."
"We'll be fine without him," Reid said resolutely. "We're gonna win this week. Try to get him ready for the Super Bowl."
"Well, I gotta work some magic. To me, Myerson is taking the emotional component out of it. Myerson doesn't understand the component. I want to take him to the game Sunday. Get him to see it first-hand."
"Go all out with him," Reid said.
Quote"I got chills," Reese would say. "I felt like a little schoolgirl. It was the first time I had seen him run in six weeks. The whole time I'm thinking, 'He ain't playin'. This cat can't play. No way. He ain't gonna be able to run.' Then I saw him running those routes. I was like, 'This is crazy! He's playin'!"
"Our Dog's gonna play," another player shouted out.
"The more they hooted and hollered," Burkholder said, "the better he did."
QuoteMore than six years later, on that Sunday night of the NFC Championship Game, smack in the middle of the Terrell Owens saga, Rick Burkholder cried. "Real tears," he said. "So much of it was the journey. That night, I can't describe the feeling. I had visions of my twelve seasons in football. I was all bundled up, Gatorade down the side of me because I was standing next to Andy when he got hit. I hugged and kissed everybody. I turned to my assistants, Sugs (Eric Sugarman) and Chris (Perduzzi), and said, 'We did it!'
"I cried and I laughed. I hugged every player. Guys like Trot and Ike. I thanked those guys for being there. The week before the Super Bowl, I called Troy and Carlos (Emmons), guys that helped build this thing. The emotion of getting to the Super Bowl was so much for me. But I had to calm down and realize why we're down in Jacksonville now. To win it."
QuoteThe bouncer immediately let his guard down. "Dude," he said, "you're the trainer for the Eagles. Come on in!"
"I can't believe this," Heckert joked. "This is absolute ---. I put this roster together and you're the damn trainer, and you're getting me into bars."
"Shut up and drink!" Burkholder said
QuoteTerrell Owens and Quinn Burkholder had it all prearranged. If Owens scored a touchdown, he would celebrate with the dance that the adorable little four-year-old girl taught him.
Rick Burkholder started taking his daughter with him to Terrell Owens' house because he was so busy during the intense rehab that he spent precious little time at home and thought at least he'd have the car ride through South Jersey with her.
He didn't know TO would fall in love with her. In fact, Owens and his girlfriend, Felecia, looked so forward to seeing Quinn that he requested Burkholder bring her over, even during days he hadn't planned to do so.
"They were big-time buddies," Burkholder said. "She idolizes him."
One day, Owens told Quinn, "Teach me a dance, sweetheart."
She taught him the Hoky Poky. So it was all set. If he scored, he was going to honor Quinn with his notable touchdown celebration by doing the Hoky Poky, putting his right ankle in first, of course. FOX, which broadcast the Super Bowl, was in on it. If Owens reached the end zone, it would show him doing the dance and have Quinn tell the story of it.
"Everybody was dying for him to score a touchdown," Burkholder said. "We wanted him to do the Hoky Poky."
QuoteMeanwhile, Owens spent every spare moment in the hyperbaric chamber, believing in the healing powers of oxygen. "He told me guys were coming up from Alabama to deliver it to his room at the hotel," Eagles security director Butch Buchanico said. "I told the people at the hotel, 'Let 'em up there.' I had to go in his room for something early in the morning one day. So I'm knocking, 'Yo, wake up! KNOCK. KNOCK. KOCK. Yo, get up! I walk in with the key, and he says in that way of his, 'Good morning, Anthony.' He's the only one on the team that calls me Anthony. Hell, only my mother called me Anthony. My mother and TO. Anyway, he pokes his head out of that thing. Like he's stuck in a suitcase. He was sleeping in that thing."
QuoteAround one in the morning the night of the game, with Quinn not feeling well, the day too long, the phone rang in the Burkholders' room. It was Owens, who was downstairs at a postgame reception.
"You coming to the party?" he asked.
Oh, no, Burkholder thought. The ankle swelled.
"What's up?" he said. "You hurting?"
"No," he said, "I just want to see Quinn. I'm leaving for Hawaii tomorrow with Felecia and we're not going to have a chance to see her."
Burkholder would say later, "Here, this guy just played in the biggest game in the world and he wants to see my daughter."
Months later, embroiled in his contract holdout, Terrell Owens would text message Rick Burkholder: "Tell Quinn, Don't worry, I'm an Eagle forever, until they cut me. Tell her I miss her."
I cannot wait to read this whole book!
Sounds awsome. I'll have to get that the Sports Guys new book, even though its all about the stupid Red Sox.
that sounds awesome. Gargano's such a good writer, he has such a talent for bringing the emotion of the situation through in his words.
Thats really someting about TO and the little girl Quinn. I says something about TO, the big brash hot dog athlete who has a soft spot for kids.
I don't care what that whore bag says. Nobody will ever be able to convince me that T.O. is anything but a pathetic ingrate roughly on par with Randy Moss. I hope he gets run over by a bus.
TO is no were near Moss. he doesn't smoke dope, hasn't assaulted anyone with a motor vehicle, hasn't threatened to shake his snake at the crowd, hasn't pretended to moon anyone, and has never walked off the field before a game is over.
Quote from: shorebird on September 17, 2005, 07:39:03 AM
TO is no were near Moss. he doesn't smoke dope, hasn't assaulted anyone with a motor vehicle, hasn't threatened to shake his snake at the crowd, hasn't pretended to moon anyone, and has never walked off the field before a game is over.
So these are all fair points. But the way he treated McNabb last winter was infuriating. And from what I understand he did the exact same thing in SF with Garcia. Let's face it...the guy has undeniable talent and drive but is all of that worth the distraction?
Yes. I point to 14 td's in 14 games.
Quote from: shorebird on September 17, 2005, 07:45:07 AM
Yes. I point to 14 td's in 14 games.
So who do you want? McNabb or T.O.? Do you want a proven leader who is a quality person or a piece of shtein journeyman who spreads hate and discontent everywhere he goes? You don't win championships with a guy like T.O...you win in spite of them.
What a bastich.
Quote from: Ploobus on September 17, 2005, 07:52:28 AM
Quote from: shorebird on September 17, 2005, 07:45:07 AM
Yes. I point to 14 td's in 14 games.
So who do you want? McNabb or T.O.? Do you want a proven leader who is a quality person or a piece of shtein journeyman who spreads hate and discontent everywhere he goes? You don't win championships with a guy like T.O...you win in spite of them.
What a bastich.
I want, and have, both, thanks to Andy Ried. Thats a non issue. You call a guy who re-wrote the Eagles record book a journeyman? :-D He's flat out the best receiver this team has ever had, ever.
Your right about McNabb though. He's leader and a professional. Thats why he's gonna' make it work with TO. And don't forget, when you ask the ridiculous question of which one do I want, which player was the biggest voice in wanting the Eagles to acquire TO. In case you forgot, it was McNabb.
Quote from: Ploobus on September 17, 2005, 07:26:01 AM
I don't care what that whore bag says. Nobody will ever be able to convince me that T.O. is anything but a pathetic ingrate roughly on par with Randy Moss. I hope he gets run over by a bus.
Did you just call a little girl a whorebag?
Bitter 9ers fan? Or are you an Eagles fan who doesn't want him here?
If you're an Eagles fan who doesn't want him here, I'd say you're nuts. Everyone knew he was a powder-keg type personality. He brought a swagger to the team last year. they needed it. I'll deal with his antics.
http://www.49erswebzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/board.cgi?board=main&action=display&num=301660
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Quote from: Ploobus on September 17, 2005, 07:26:01 AM
I don't care what that whore bag says. Nobody will ever be able to convince me that T.O. is anything but a pathetic ingrate roughly on par with Randy Moss. I hope he gets run over by a bus.
Who's is a "whore bag?" The four-year-old? A bit crass, isn't it?
Quote from: PhillyGirl on September 17, 2005, 08:15:05 AM
Quote from: Ploobus on September 17, 2005, 07:26:01 AM
I don't care what that whore bag says. Nobody will ever be able to convince me that T.O. is anything but a pathetic ingrate roughly on par with Randy Moss. I hope he gets run over by a bus.
Did you just call a little girl a whorebag?
Let me repeat this question
Quote from: PhillyGirl on September 17, 2005, 11:49:15 AM
Quote from: PhillyGirl on September 17, 2005, 08:15:05 AM
Quote from: Ploobus on September 17, 2005, 07:26:01 AM
I don't care what that whore bag says. Nobody will ever be able to convince me that T.O. is anything but a pathetic ingrate roughly on par with Randy Moss. I hope he gets run over by a bus.
Did you just call a little girl a whorebag?
Let me repeat this question
The author.
Don't worry too much about Ploobus, guys. He has an amazing talent to stick his entire foot in his mouth. :-D
I can't believe he called a little girl a whorebag.
Quote from: Ploobus on September 17, 2005, 07:26:01 AM
I don't care what that whore bag says. Nobody will ever be able to convince me that T.O. is anything but a pathetic ingrate roughly on par with Randy Moss. I hope he gets run over by a bus.
Somebody would actually have to
care what you thought to even want to convince you of anything. Since no one here gives a ish about what you think, feel free to slob down a meatcicle or two.
Thanks for the quotes from the article, Phreak! :yay
I'm headed up to Buffalo later this week, sounds like a great book to pick up for the flight. I'm a big fan of Ant's writing.
phreak, thanks for those quotes! im definitely buying it now.
about gargano. its amazing how good of a writer he is. hes from south philly and uses slang on the radio, but when you read his stuff, its so hard to put 2 and 2 together.
Thanks Phreak keep them coming.
I'm about 100 pages in and it is as good as advertised so far.
It started off a little slow and he uses a scattershot style - jumping around to different people and topics - but I'm enjoying it.
There's a part in there where Ike says he knew at the SB that he wouldn't be back. He explains how Andy advised him to take the ATL offer because they were going with Trot & Keith. And Ike text messages Gargano on air to tell him. Then Ike talks about when he called in to talk to them he had to hang up because he was starting to cry. Big Red said he loved Ike and hated to not bring him back. Ike talks about his personal life and how he was heading in the wrong direction and how Troy Vincent got him right.
Ike (other than Trotter) is probably my all-time favorite Eagle.
Great inside look at the team.
I feel in love with Ike when he played DE late in a game during one of his 1st years here. There he was, a lil 225 lb, going balls out against a RT that could have outweighted him by 100lbs.
How did Troy save him?
Was Troy saving him in reference to Ike doing drugs?
He said he just got his head on right...mostly with the females and life in general.
Ike said in 2000 he started listening to WIP, reading the papers and watching DNL so he could hear what Eagles fans wanted in a player. He heard we liked the gritty, muddy sumbitches who do the little things and he dedicated himself to fitting into Philly.
Yeah, guys like Trotter also.
There should be a story about his journey from the bottom of the barrel, (Skins) to the Superbowl.
Finished the book tonight. Probably the best Eagles related book I've ever read. It was awesome.
The only two criticisms I have of the book are that at times I thought he tried too hard at times to describe things. Using obscure references to Machiavelli and other things like that. And the other thing was there were some misspelled words/typo's in there. Not a lot, but enough for me to catch. I know he's spelled Ronde Barber "Rhonde" in both of his books.
Some new things I found out by reading:
1. The Rams were about to fire Vermeil after 1998 and were interested in Reid. But they decided to keep Vermeil and won the SB. Reid had a "gut feeling" about Philly and went on that even though he thought about turning down the interview request. Things were so bad in Philly thanks to Ray Bob and the Vet/practice facilities that no one wanted to come here at all.
2. Remember the story about Reid being on a remote island not too long after the Super Bowl and a bunch of Eagles fans recognized him? Well this is what Andy said about these fans and how pumped up they got him:
"I'm so fired up from those guys that I call Donovan on the phone. I said, 'Yo, Donovan! We're going back there. We're going to Detroit! And this time, we're gonna win it!'"
3. He turned down BYU because he loves Philadelphia and feels obligated to win here and fulfill his commitment.
4. Early on in 1999 he was feeling the heat of the fans/media after the 0-3 start because he wanted to win so badly and wanted it right then and there. But he knew it was going to take time.
5. Every player interviewed said the approach Reid takes is the best one. So when people rip him for being boring and stubborn...his players respect him and love him for that. They love him because he treats them like men, respects them and is tough when need be.
6. PG, I believe you're mentioned in the book. A brief little mention about the day of the Super Bowl calling into the show. I think it was you he was talking about.
Listen...go spend the $17 on this book, guys. I loved it and I think everyone here will too.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 21, 2005, 08:57:35 AM
Listen...go spend the $17 on this book, guys. I loved it and I think everyone here will too.
can you just photocopy each page and mail it to me?
Sure.
1 page per week.
:D
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 21, 2005, 08:57:35 AM
6. PG, I believe you're mentioned in the book. A brief little mention about the day of the Super Bowl calling into the show. I think it was you he was talking about.
???
QuoteSamantha from Cherry Hill calls to say she and her husband who met chatting in an Eagle fan forum, are already on the sofa, huddled with what brought them together.
pg.229
It's in a part where he talks about fans calling in the day of the SB and the ones who stuck out in his mind.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 21, 2005, 10:14:38 AM
QuoteSamantha from Cherry Hill calls to say she and her husband who met chatting in an Eagle fan forum, are already on the sofa, huddled with what brought them together.
A laptop?
i demand royalties.
Will MURP and PG autograph my Page 229?
I didn't realize that they actually met online. I am now going to quietly judge them and their nerdishness for the rest of the day.
Cheaper here: http://www.bestprices.com/cgi-bin/vlink/0975441949BT?source=froogle ($13.80, but currently out of stock)
Also a couple listed as used (but the seller says they are brand new) listed on Amazon at $12.99 (I just bought one from him, and he has more copies)
Quote from: ParkingLotFlagDude on September 21, 2005, 11:06:51 AM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 21, 2005, 10:14:38 AM
QuoteSamantha from Cherry Hill calls to say she and her husband who met chatting in an Eagle fan forum, are already on the sofa, huddled with what brought them together.
A laptop?
:-D
Absolutely buying this.
Thanks for the previews, Phreak.
:yay
nice phone call to WIP PG. i'm assuming at this point you've picked up your copy of the book?
Something tells me she went to go buy it right after reading that... ;D
MURP probably beat her to during one of his numerous weekly (or is it daily?) jaunts to Barnes & Noble.
:D
she called from barnes and nobles to chew him out for including it.
she also made fun of the skins for the gatorade bath, props to PG.
ill autograph the books for a PBR each. thank you thank you.
Quote from: MURP on September 21, 2005, 01:25:31 PM
ill autograph the books for a PBR each. thank you thank you.
I'd rather just give you 50 cents than a delicious PBR. Then again I'd rather not know that you met your wife on a message board.
Quote from: rjs246 on September 21, 2005, 01:05:55 PM
Most of my friends and my ladyfriend are taterskins fans.
Bite me Skins lover.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on September 21, 2005, 01:29:44 PM
Quote from: rjs246 on September 21, 2005, 01:05:55 PM
Most of my friends and my ladyfriend are taterskins fans.
Bite me Skins lover.
I can't help that I spent most of my teenaged years and almost all of my adult life in northern virginia. I tried my hardest to segregate myself from everyone, but I'm just too damned loveable.
Quote from: rjs246 on September 21, 2005, 01:31:24 PM
Quote from: PhillyGirl on September 21, 2005, 01:29:44 PM
Quote from: rjs246 on September 21, 2005, 01:05:55 PM
Most of my friends and my ladyfriend are taterskins fans.
Bite me Skins lover.
I can't help that I spent most of my teenaged years and almost all of my adult life in northern virginia. I tried my hardest to segregate myself from everyone, but I'm just too damned loveable.
No excuse. I was living 3000 miles away from Philadelphia when I met MURP. If you weren't such a lazy farg, you could have found yourself an Eagles fan. ;D
Quote from: PhillyGirl on September 21, 2005, 01:33:17 PM
Quote from: rjs246 on September 21, 2005, 01:31:24 PM
Quote from: PhillyGirl on September 21, 2005, 01:29:44 PM
Quote from: rjs246 on September 21, 2005, 01:05:55 PM
Most of my friends and my ladyfriend are taterskins fans.
Bite me Skins lover.
I can't help that I spent most of my teenaged years and almost all of my adult life in northern virginia. I tried my hardest to segregate myself from everyone, but I'm just too damned loveable.
No excuse. I was living 3000 miles away from Philadelphia when I met MURP. If you weren't such a lazy farg, you could have found yourself an Eagles fan. ;D
There are tons of Eagles fans in northern Virginia. Of course, few of them are women so rjs probably wouldn't be interested.
Then again...
Eagles fan. taterskins fan. It all looks the same from the back.
The great thing is that she now owns an undersized Kearse jersey and no taterskins paraphernalia. I rule. Now if I could make myself act like a normal human being when the Eagles are on maybe I could complete the conversion. Sadly, my friends and I frighten her. A lot.