QuoteEagles | McCants Coming on Board
Wed, 31 Aug 2005 14:44:28 -0700
ESPN.com's Len Pasquarelli reports the Philadelphia Eagles are ready to sign free agent WR Darnerian McCants (taterskins). He is expected to land a deal with the team Thursday, Sept. 1. They met with him Wednesday, Aug. 31, and a club official said they have already reached a deal in principle with him, but he still needs to pass a physical.
What a steal! This guy is such a great addition to this football team words can't even describe it.
Better than nothing I guess.
Bye Carlos, I'll miss you.
We are The Philadelphia Eagles... We have more "Mc's" than you do! ;D
Uh...4th WR. Better than Billy and Carlos. Sure why not.
Quote from: MDS on August 31, 2005, 06:50:33 PM
Uh...4th WR. Better than Billy and Carlos. Sure why not.
Really. I don't see what the big deal is. How often do the Eagles even put 4wrs on the field anyway?
Quote from: EagleFeva on August 31, 2005, 06:46:35 PM
We are The Philadelphia Eagles... We have more "Mc's" than you do! ;D
But unfortunately less rings. :(
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Quote from: TexasEagle on August 31, 2005, 06:54:44 PM
Quote from: MDS on August 31, 2005, 06:50:33 PM
Uh...4th WR. Better than Billy and Carlos. Sure why not.
Really. I don't see what the big deal is. How often do the Eagles even put 4wrs on the field anyway?
Often enough for Lewis to catch 25+ balls there last year. Theres also something called injuries and depth.
McCants is a really good red zone reciever. I know a lot of 'Skins fans were upset he wasn't used more last year.
I'm happy with this move. He must've come cheap.
I like it.
But he better be ready to play STs.
Quote from: hkHog on August 31, 2005, 06:55:22 PM
Quote from: EagleFeva on August 31, 2005, 06:46:35 PM
We are The Philadelphia Eagles... We have more "Mc's" than you do! ;D
But unfortunately less rings. :(
(http://www.sportspool.com/football/super_bowl/Superbowl_XXVI_ring.jpg) (http://www.sportspool.com/football/super_bowl/Superbowl_XXII_ring.jpg) (http://www.sportspool.com/football/super_bowl/Superbowl_XVII_ring.jpg)
So, you collect antiques?
I'm fine with McCants, by the way. Anyone who expected anything more hasn't been following the MO of the team for the last five years or so. And their moves usually pan out.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 31, 2005, 07:05:44 PMBut he better be ready to play STs.
If he's shtein on ST, then what?
He gets no PT and sits on the bench like Freddie did until he learned how to play WR. Freddie was allergic to STs and when you're #4 you have to cover kicks.
And I hope his attitude isn't a problem.
Somewhere I read that he's happy to play ST as long as he doesn't have to hit anybody. He said that if he could wrestle them to the ground that would be better. That's why he never played on ST in DC. Not a great attitude.
I think this is a decent addition, at this point the Eagles don't need a receiver to compete with the top three. It will take a while but hopefully this guy can develop into the good redzone threat.
Sounds like a Hoyda. He better not ever "lose the ball in the lights." Or else....
We have more Mc's than an Irish whore house.
Quote from: hkHog on August 31, 2005, 07:16:04 PM
Somewhere I read that he's happy to play ST as long as he doesn't have to hit anybody. He said that if he could wrestle them to the ground that would be better. That's why he never played on ST in DC. Not a great attitude.
Why is this cum-guzzling taterskins sissybitch still here?
Go away, troll. We gave at the orafice.
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on August 31, 2005, 07:34:01 PM
Quote from: hkHog on August 31, 2005, 07:16:04 PM
Somewhere I read that he's happy to play ST as long as he doesn't have to hit anybody. He said that if he could wrestle them to the ground that would be better. That's why he never played on ST in DC. Not a great attitude.
Why is this cum-guzzling taterskins sissybitch still here?
Go away, troll. We gave at the orafice.
That's not a nice way to talk about Darnerian, you just signed him.
Quote from: phattymatty on August 31, 2005, 06:44:17 PM
Better than nothing I guess.
Bye Carlos, I'll miss you.
It could means curtains for McMullen. That 5th WR has to be a decent ST player first and foremost.
Quote from: Larry on August 31, 2005, 07:41:55 PM
It could means curtains for McMullen. That 5th WR has to be a decent ST player first and foremost.
I was just saying the same thing thing to someone. Carlos has shown me more in preseason than McMullen.
Lets also all realize who was throwing this guy the ball (or not throwing) for the past few years. I look forward to seeing him in the red zone catching bullets from DMac the First.
Quote from: hkHog on August 31, 2005, 07:16:04 PM
Somewhere I read that he's happy to play ST as long as he doesn't have to hit anybody. He said that if he could wrestle them to the ground that would be better. That's why he never played on ST in DC. Not a great attitude.
Not to mention he played for 3 DIFFERENT HEAD COACHES AND 3 DIFFERENT OCs in 4 years. Could that have been the problem?
Quote from: MDS on August 31, 2005, 06:59:02 PM
Often enough for Lewis to catch 25+ balls there last year. Theres also something called injuries and depth.
I agree on the depth thing. As for Lewis, he didn't only come on the field in 4wr sets. Anyway, I think it's a good signing (once it's official) as I always thought they were going to sign another WR for depth anyway. McCants is as good as anyone.
I always trust someone who says, "Somewhere I read...."
::)
PS...Monster, on another thread you were talking whining that the Eagles never get the big name WR except for Owens.
Please, enlighten me....how many big name WRs do the Patriots have? I mean, BEFORE they won the SBs...did you consider any of those guys big names?
personally would have preffered price but not a bad pick up.
Quote from: Magical_Retard on August 31, 2005, 08:27:47 PM
personally would have preffered price but not a bad pick up.
Price at what Price? He won't come in and be a 3rd or 4th and he's not worthy enough to jump in and take over Greg Lewis' spot.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on August 31, 2005, 08:09:41 PM
I always trust someone who says, "Somewhere I read...."
::)
Well it's good that you do because:
QuoteGibbs became disenchanted with McCants' practice habits and with his reluctance to participate on special teams. Those factors earned him a spot on the inactive list for 10 games last year.
The handwriting seemed to be on the wall for McCants' imminent release for most of the summer and it became a little bit more visible when the team signed receiver Kevin Dyson, another big receiver, just before minicamp. The handwriting turned bolder as he dropped pass after pass early in camp and in the Carolina preseason game and the ink turned indelible as he continued to sit out special teams plays in the preseason games.
I knew that he was gone as he spoke with a few of us after a training camp practice. When asked about playing special team, he said that he was lining up as one of the gunners on punt coverage. The only aspect of doing it he didn't like, he said, was the hitting part. "If I get to him (the returner) I'll just wrestle him to the ground or something." That's kind of like saying that you like to go swimming, but you hate getting wet. Such an attitude will not earn too many points with special teams coach Danny Smith, who is as old school as they come.
http://taterskins.scout.com/2/431246.html
Quote from: bobbyinlondon on August 31, 2005, 08:08:04 PMNot to mention he played for 3 DIFFERENT HEAD COACHES AND 3 DIFFERENT OCs in 4 years. Could that have been the problem?
That's certainly worth noting.
From Mel Kiper back before the '01 Draft. He had him listed as one of "Kiper's Climbers" FWIW.
QuoteKiper's Climber | Darnerian McCants, WR, Delaware State
While the wide receiver spot is the strongest and deepest position in the draft this year, highlighted by the major-college stars, there are still a few small-college dynamos who have been gaining momentum over the last two months.
At or near the top of this list is the athletically gifted McCants, a 6-foot-3, 209-pounder with 4.48 speed and excellent leaping ability. At Delaware State, he also starred as a high jumper on the track team.
After he redshirted with the Hornets in 1996, McCants was expected to really thrive in Delaware State's pro-style attack. While he enjoyed several outstanding performances, his productivity was limited since the Hornets distributed the ball to four or five different options in the passing game. After hauling in 20 receptions in '97 and 18 the following year, his receiving total dropped to nine catches as a fourth-year junior in '99.
Ironically, when the Hornets shifted to more of a wing-T offense last season, his numbers actually improved. He hauled in a career-high 36 receptions for a 19.2-yard average and 18 TDs. The Hornets would isolate McCants on the smaller cover men, taking advantage of the matchup edge when the Hornets moved into the red zone.
As a wideout, he needs to become a bit more polished in terms of route-running, and the transition from Division I-AA to the NFL may not be easy at first. But the physically gifted McCants definitely possesses intriguing pro potential. He's big, runs well, shows explosion out of his cuts, will catch in traffic and proved to be a real TD-maker last season.
The Hornets certainly haven't produced a wide receiver who has garnered this much attention since John Taylor in 1986. That year, Taylor ended up becoming a third-round super steal for the 49ers.
While he doesn't carry quite the final grade that Taylor did, don't be surprised if McCants hears his name called in the fourth- or fifth-round area.
I think with the right coaching, DMac throwing him lasers, and a firm support structure from the FO, he could turn into a solid possesion guy/redzone threat.
QuoteDARNERIAN McCANTS, Wide Receiver
School: Delaware State University Hornets. Height: 6:04.0. Weight: 207. Hometown: Odenton, Maryland
ANALYSIS
Positives...Prototype receiver in the Ed McCaffrey (Denver) mold...Has long arms and an effortless stride to the ball...Displays outstanding leaping ability...Shows superb acceleration off the snap and the long arms to haul in the tough pass in traffic...Very crisp in and out of his cuts... Great vertical threat who is very effective as a crack blocker upfield...Has good stutter-step moves after the catch...Shifty route runner with loose hips and excellent change-of-direction skills... Despite his size, he still has the juking moves needed to make the initial tackler miss.
Negatives...Still needs some route-running definement...Has to learn how to shorten his stride coming out of his cuts...More fast than quick...Despite his size, he has problems against even the small defensive backs escaping the jam...Gets frustrated too quickly when he can't elude the defender...Needs to show much better ball concentration ability, as he tends to drop just as much as he catches...Very passive blocker who will generally stand around upfield rather than lend support to the ground game...In a definite need for a confidence booster, as it seems he either is unsure of his ability or simply lacks the desire to hone his craft.
I agree that coaching and a great QB can do nothing more than help him. I mean, there was ZERO consistency in DC...new Coaches, schemes and QBs every year, a zesty oline, etc. He's got to be loving where he is going now.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on August 31, 2005, 08:35:24 PM
Quote from: Magical_Retard on August 31, 2005, 08:27:47 PM
personally would have preffered price but not a bad pick up.
Price at what Price? He won't come in and be a 3rd or 4th and he's not worthy enough to jump in and take over Greg Lewis' spot.
How do you know he won't come in and be a 3rd or a 4th? He's never said this. All indications are he really wants to be an Eagle according to Clayton on ESPN, CSN and NFL Network. Also, he doesn't need to jump in and take over Lewis' spot. He has to come in and work and earn it.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on August 31, 2005, 08:09:41 PM
I always trust someone who says, "Somewhere I read...."
::)
Yeah, SI for Kids
Quote from: Monster on August 31, 2005, 09:08:51 PM
Quote from: PhillyGirl on August 31, 2005, 08:35:24 PM
Quote from: Magical_Retard on August 31, 2005, 08:27:47 PM
personally would have preffered price but not a bad pick up.
Price at what Price? He won't come in and be a 3rd or 4th and he's not worthy enough to jump in and take over Greg Lewis' spot.
How do you know he won't come in and be a 3rd or a 4th? He's never said this. All indications are he really wants to be an Eagle according to Clayton on ESPN, CSN and NFL Network. Also, he doesn't need to jump in and take over Lewis' spot. He has to come in and work and earn it.
Dude. Let's get real here.
Peerless Price came to ATL and left BUF so he could be a #1 WR. He's not going to go from a #1 making #1 WR money to a #4 WR.
And he will not cover kicks. As I have said before, if you are a #4 WR YOU HAV TO PLAY STs!
Look at Warrick. He went to a team that had poor WRs and signed a 1-year deal. He will use the opportunity of playing with a sorry group of WRs to parlay that into a big contract.
use some perspective, bro.
Quote from: PhillyPhaninDC on August 31, 2005, 09:05:00 PMI think with the right coaching...
QuoteNegatives... it seems he either is unsure of his ability or simply lacks the desire to hone his craft.
QuoteI agree that coaching and a great QB can do nothing more than help him.
The real question is will he be receptive to coaching?
Why wouldn't he be? He's basically auditioning for another chance. if he's not receptive, he'll be out of a job.
Quote from: hkHog on August 31, 2005, 09:15:37 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhaninDC on August 31, 2005, 09:05:00 PMI think with the right coaching...
QuoteNegatives... it seems he either is unsure of his ability or simply lacks the desire to hone his craft.
QuoteI agree that coaching and a great QB can do nothing more than help him.
The real question is will he be receptive to coaching?
No gimp. The real question is why are you, a trolling, bothersome, misguided taterskins fan, posing that question on an Eagles message board? Why don't you go back to your burgandy and gold Gibbs suckfest?
:-D
Dizzam, PPDC!
:-D
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 31, 2005, 09:15:34 PM
Quote from: Monster on August 31, 2005, 09:08:51 PM
Quote from: PhillyGirl on August 31, 2005, 08:35:24 PM
Quote from: Magical_Retard on August 31, 2005, 08:27:47 PM
personally would have preffered price but not a bad pick up.
Price at what Price? He won't come in and be a 3rd or 4th and he's not worthy enough to jump in and take over Greg Lewis' spot.
How do you know he won't come in and be a 3rd or a 4th? He's never said this. All indications are he really wants to be an Eagle according to Clayton on ESPN, CSN and NFL Network. Also, he doesn't need to jump in and take over Lewis' spot. He has to come in and work and earn it.
Dude. Let's get real here.
Peerless Price came to ATL and left BUF so he could be a #1 WR. He's not going to go from a #1 making #1 WR money to a #4 WR.
And he will not cover kicks. As I have said before, if you are a #4 WR YOU HAV TO PLAY STs!
Look at Warrick. He went to a team that had poor WRs and signed a 1-year deal. He will use the opportunity of playing with a sorry group of WRs to parlay that into a big contract.
use some perspective, bro.
If he signs with the Eagles to be a #3 or #4 he still will have a chance to get revenge on the Falcons which I think he really wants. We play them in week one and could very well again the playoffs. Secondly, he will be playing for a championship team. To me I think he'd want revenge and a ring before playing time, and money.
Also if you want to look at it like Warrick has, then you have to remember Price has never succeeded unless he played opposite of a star wideout. If he goes to the Eagles, he will play with TO and he may think he could repeat his performance of 2002. That would earn him a potential big pay day. He won't do shtein on a team with sub-par receivers. He knows that.
One thing I am wondering, is if they will work him into the gameplan in Week 9 in DC to rub salt into the wound. I'd like nothing better than for this kid to take to the system well, and shtein all over the Skins RoX0r! secondary.
Quote from: PhillyPhaninDC on August 31, 2005, 09:18:10 PM
Quote from: hkHog on August 31, 2005, 09:15:37 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhaninDC on August 31, 2005, 09:05:00 PMI think with the right coaching...
QuoteNegatives... it seems he either is unsure of his ability or simply lacks the desire to hone his craft.
QuoteI agree that coaching and a great QB can do nothing more than help him.
The real question is will he be receptive to coaching?
No gimp. The real question is why are you, a trolling, bothersome, misguided taterskins fan, posing that question on an Eagles message board? Why don't you go back to your burgandy and gold Gibbs suckfest?
Dude, the issue here isn't me, it's DMac, can't you read the title of the thread.
All I did was tell you what I know about DMac - he's a nice, big Red Zone threat who a lot of 'Skins fans wanted to play more but Gibbs didn't like his practice habits and he doesn't like ST very much. What is wrong with that? Did I say anything hostile?
By the way, it's OK, I forgive you, your post was very clever.
Price wants what 99% of the other NFL players want...
Money and playing time.
If you think that he is in it for anything other than that, I think you're not looking at it rationally, bro.
Dalla sis interested in him and he is interested in Dallas. Why? Because he'd get to play with his old QB (Bledsoe) and he'd have a chance to be their #1 WR in a year. He'd see more playing time this year too than he would in Philadelphia.
He can think he would succeed alongside TO all he wants. But if his contract demands are high, he will not be signed here. The Eagles like Lewis and Brown. They will not sign a big money guy at that position right now.
They like their depth at WR and McCants gives them a good #4 guy who can play the slot and do damage in the red-zone.
We do not need Price. Like I said when he was cut - the only way I would've liked him here is if he played for the vet minimum. Which he won't.
Then again that leads back to the fact that Price called the Eagles. He said he wants to come here. Obviously he knows he's not going to come in and start. Obviously when he(or his agent) talked to the Eagles they told him he most likely wouldn't be high on the depth chart. Yet he still wants to play here. I wouldn't have even thought twice about Price if I didn't hear 3 seperate reports that he wants to be an Eagle.
Quote from: PhillyPhaninDC on August 31, 2005, 09:29:33 PM
One thing I am wondering, is if they will work him into the gameplan in Week 9 in DC to rub salt into the wound.
I wouldn't be surprised, even if he isn't on the field much he's one of those guys who only catches TDs. He causes a lot of match-up problems too and with T.O. and your TEs he could be a handful
Quote from: hkHog on August 31, 2005, 09:33:12 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhaninDC on August 31, 2005, 09:18:10 PM
Quote from: hkHog on August 31, 2005, 09:15:37 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhaninDC on August 31, 2005, 09:05:00 PMI think with the right coaching...
QuoteNegatives... it seems he either is unsure of his ability or simply lacks the desire to hone his craft.
QuoteI agree that coaching and a great QB can do nothing more than help him.
The real question is will he be receptive to coaching?
No gimp. The real question is why are you, a trolling, bothersome, misguided taterskins fan, posing that question on an Eagles message board? Why don't you go back to your burgandy and gold Gibbs suckfest?
Dude, the issue here isn't me, it's DMac, can't you read the title of the thread.
All I did was tell you what I know about DMac - he's a nice, big Red Zone threat who a lot of 'Skins fans wanted to play more but Gibbs didn't like his practice habits and he doesn't like ST very much. What is wrong with that? Did I say anything hostile?
By the way, it's OK, I forgive you, your post was very clever.
Hey tool, let me post a few things to show everyone why you're really here, other than to offer you valuable insight, of course.
QuoteI actually like spending time over there, I think I'm getting them pretty angry.
QuotePunu wrote:
Philly fan is incapable of understanding rational thought. Sure they may be intelligent, civic minded human beings in the normal course of their life.
Wow, you give them WAY too much credit.
QuoteHaha, I struck a nerve over there reposting something I put in the smack forum here a couple months ago. Check it out:
http://www.concretefield.com/forum/index.php?topic=16213.0
Don't know how long it will be up.
http://www.thehogs.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=14789
Now....that about does it for your pathetic attempt to pass off the shtein you spew as "Telling us what you know", and to me, the above says you are the farging issue here. Now run back to your little Skins message board, and maybe one of the mods will give you a nice pearl necklace for your efforts here.
:-D :-D :-D
Wow. Did you at least use lube that time on the poor wittle skinsfan, dude?
Jesus.
:o
:-D
What's funny is that this thread is based on a Pasquerelli blurb that I'd already posted in the other thread.
No one pays attention.
I blame T.O.
Quote from: Monster on August 31, 2005, 09:08:51 PMAll indications are he really wants to be an Eagle according to....
What free agent wouldn't want to be an Eagle? Difficulty: Other than Simon?
Quote from: PhillyGirl on August 31, 2005, 09:17:15 PMif he's not receptive, he'll be out of a job.
That didn't matter to him during camp this year.
Hey Monster, let me help you out. The name of the guy your sponsoring is spelled DarneriEn McCants.
Thanks, I didn't even notice.
:-D :-D @ the guy who started that thread on the Skins MB. Not only is he a Ramsey fan but someone needs to tell him that Coles is back in NY.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 01, 2005, 02:31:31 AM
:-D :-D @ the guy who started that thread on the Skins MB. Not only is he a Ramsey fan but someone needs to tell him that Coles is back in NY.
Did you break it to him that Billy Kilmer is no longer playing football? He retired in 1976. I've always respected those knowledgeable fans.
Quote from: PhillyPhaninDC on August 31, 2005, 09:42:18 PM
Quote from: hkHog on August 31, 2005, 09:33:12 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhaninDC on August 31, 2005, 09:18:10 PM
Quote from: hkHog on August 31, 2005, 09:15:37 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhaninDC on August 31, 2005, 09:05:00 PMI think with the right coaching...
QuoteNegatives... it seems he either is unsure of his ability or simply lacks the desire to hone his craft.
QuoteI agree that coaching and a great QB can do nothing more than help him.
The real question is will he be receptive to coaching?
No gimp. The real question is why are you, a trolling, bothersome, misguided taterskins fan, posing that question on an Eagles message board? Why don't you go back to your burgandy and gold Gibbs suckfest?
Dude, the issue here isn't me, it's DMac, can't you read the title of the thread.
All I did was tell you what I know about DMac - he's a nice, big Red Zone threat who a lot of 'Skins fans wanted to play more but Gibbs didn't like his practice habits and he doesn't like ST very much. What is wrong with that? Did I say anything hostile?
By the way, it's OK, I forgive you, your post was very clever.
Hey tool, let me post a few things to show everyone why you're really here, other than to offer you valuable insight, of course.
QuoteI actually like spending time over there, I think I'm getting them pretty angry.
QuotePunu wrote:
Philly fan is incapable of understanding rational thought. Sure they may be intelligent, civic minded human beings in the normal course of their life.
Wow, you give them WAY too much credit.
QuoteHaha, I struck a nerve over there reposting something I put in the smack forum here a couple months ago. Check it out:
http://www.concretefield.com/forum/index.php?topic=16213.0
Don't know how long it will be up.
http://www.thehogs.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=14789
Now....that about does it for your pathetic attempt to pass off the shtein you spew as "Telling us what you know", and to me, the above says you are the farging issue here. Now run back to your little Skins message board, and maybe one of the mods will give you a nice pearl necklace for your efforts here.
Banned. Thanks for the heads up.
I've seen him play here when the Skins and 9ers came for the American Bowl.
I like McCants. Getting Warrick or Price would have been like pouring gasoline on the fire! It would have blown the chemistry on this team. Also as for the Kiper report, I thought Delaware State was a Division II or III school. University of Delaware is Division 1aa, that much i know.
Spads impersanation: :-* Hello Eagles fans, are you excited as me about the addition of another top-notch receiver and endzone target for number five? This Eagles offense has more redzone weapons now than any team in history! I can easily see Mcnabb throwing 50 tds this year! gargle%@ gargle%@ ::)
I for one hope Carlos makes the team over McMullen now. Otherwise what will Phatty have to randomly interject into otherwise logical threads?
it's pretty good insurance in case Reggie Brown can't gets a little overmatched as they add to the offense
Quote from: Sun_Mo on September 01, 2005, 09:45:54 AM
it's pretty good insurance in case Reggie Brown can't gets a little overmatched as they add to the offense
Yep. Plus he and Dhani can try to out-fancy each other with HILARIOUS consequences.
Quote from: rjs246 on September 01, 2005, 09:48:37 AM
Quote from: Sun_Mo on September 01, 2005, 09:45:54 AM
it's pretty good insurance in case Reggie Brown can't gets a little overmatched as they add to the offense
Yep. Plus he and Dhani can try to out-fancy each other with HILARIOUS consequences.
you know what? i always quiver with excitement when a reporter starts to ask Dhani about his bow-ties. Did you know he owns his own bow-tie company? 'cause he does.
Carlos is gonna have a big game tonight.
He'd better. Otherwise your reign at the top is finished, sucker.
Quote from: Zanshin on August 31, 2005, 07:06:12 PM
Quote from: hkHog on August 31, 2005, 06:55:22 PM
Quote from: EagleFeva on August 31, 2005, 06:46:35 PM
We are The Philadelphia Eagles... We have more "Mc's" than you do! ;D
But unfortunately less rings. :(
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So, you collect antiques?
So true, the NFL is a what have you done for me lately league!!
Quote from: rjs246 on September 01, 2005, 09:45:50 AM
I for one hope Carlos makes the team over McMullen now. Otherwise what will Phatty have to randomly interject into otherwise logical threads?
McMullen will be #4/5 this year.
Quote from: phillywin2k5 on September 01, 2005, 10:18:35 AM
Quote from: rjs246 on September 01, 2005, 09:45:50 AM
I for one hope Carlos makes the team over McMullen now. Otherwise what will Phatty have to randomly interject into otherwise logical threads?
McMullen will be #4/5 this year.
Well, lets see. Wilbur doesn't contribute much on special teams and is going to basically be buried on the depth chart whie contributing nothing on the field. I'd give Carlos even odds of beating him out.
I think Carlos has a good shot too. He's definitely outplayed and out hustled McMullen in the preseason games so far, other than the Bengals game that is. He's made at least 3 or 4 spectacular diving or sliding catches that I can remember. His one big mistake was that funble into the endzone, and hopefully they'll see that as an extyra effort trying to get in the end zone over a stupid mistake.
Most of Andy and Co.'s draft picks have been working out, so I hope they will realize that Billy is not going to and drop his sorry ass. And with this McCants signing, who has a very similar build to McMullen, I think the chances of Carlos making it are even better.
Quote from: rjs246 on September 01, 2005, 09:48:37 AM
Quote from: Sun_Mo on September 01, 2005, 09:45:54 AM
it's pretty good insurance in case Reggie Brown can't gets a little overmatched as they add to the offense
Yep. Plus he and Dhani can try to out-fancy each other with HILARIOUS consequences.
Team Dhani wins the fancy pants contest over McCants every time!!
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y171/ibescotty/dhani-tie.jpg)
Quote from: phattymatty on September 01, 2005, 10:31:38 AM
And with this McCants signing, who has a very similar build to McMullen, I think the chances of Carlos making it are even better.
Another good point.
McCants > McMullen & Perez.
McCants = Freddie Solomon :paranoid
I don't think McMullen being released would automatically mean a spot for Perez. Knowing how Reid operates, he might try to sneak the Reno Mahe of wide receivers, Robert Redd, onto the roster as a special teams/do-it-all waterboy.
yay! mccants used to suck when he was on the deadskins...but now that he's an eagle, he's grrrrrrreat! :yay :yay
Quote from: mhunt on September 01, 2005, 12:14:39 PM
yay! mccants used to suck when he was on the deadskins...but now that he's an eagle, he's grrrrrrreat! :yay :yay
Deadskins expected him to be a #1 or #2.
Eagles expect him to be a #4.
::) Why is this so difficult for you to understand?
oh, i understand perfectly....he rulez. good pickup. :yay :yay
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Quote from: mhunt on September 01, 2005, 12:26:57 PM
oh, i understand perfectly....he rulez. good pickup. :yay :yay
You certainly are a tard sometimes.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on September 01, 2005, 12:23:54 PM
Quote from: mhunt on September 01, 2005, 12:14:39 PM
yay! mccants used to suck when he was on the deadskins...but now that he's an eagle, he's grrrrrrreat! :yay :yay
Deadskins expected him to be a #1 or #2.
Eagles expect him to be a #4.
::) Why is this so difficult for you to understand?
That's exactly why he was inactive for a good part of the season in 04??? All teams keep one of their best receivers inactive.
Tie him to the goal posts and leave him there for four days...that'll learn him about being a taterskin. Then he can be a minor part of this team. I'll laugh if he beats out Reggie Brown though.
Quote from: daigglesfaninva on September 01, 2005, 12:29:32 PM
Quote from: PhillyGirl on September 01, 2005, 12:23:54 PM
Quote from: mhunt on September 01, 2005, 12:14:39 PM
yay! mccants used to suck when he was on the deadskins...but now that he's an eagle, he's grrrrrrreat! :yay :yay
Deadskins expected him to be a #1 or #2.
Eagles expect him to be a #4.
::) Why is this so difficult for you to understand?
That's exactly why he was inactive for a good part of the season in 04??? All teams keep one of their best receivers inactive.
they were saving him for the playoffs, ass.
I'm not quite sure why no one looks at the situation he was IN in DC befor making comments like this?
Are you pissed because we didn't land Warrick or Price?
What exactly is the problem here?
this is all new news to me...meh... :-\
Still no official confirmation on the PE website. ???
Quote from: MadMarchHare on September 01, 2005, 12:35:33 PM
Still no official confirmation on the PE website. ???
didnt play the game yet.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on September 01, 2005, 12:30:48 PM
I'm not quite sure why no one looks at the situation he was IN in DC befor making comments like this?
Are you pissed because we didn't land Warrick or Price?
What exactly is the problem here?
Be specific...what kind of comments?
Quote from: daigglesfaninva on September 01, 2005, 12:29:32 PM
That's exactly why he was inactive for a good part of the season in 04??? All teams keep one of their best receivers inactive.
This one
Not following, MURP. I've only had 1 pot of coffee so far today, I'm a little slow.
Oh...well he's just bitter because they didn't go after Price. At least that's what it would seem to me. As far as i'm concerned, McCants could be one of those guys that needed a change of scenery, not to mention his entire team sucked and he had worthless QB's throwing to him since he was a rookie. I think he could benefit from McNabb and TO.
He will hopefully be another big target in the redzone, and a model citizen. He had a great rep in D.C.
Quote from: MadMarchHare on September 01, 2005, 12:38:27 PM
Not following, MURP. I've only had 1 pot of coffee so far today, I'm a little slow.
I believe the reports were he wouldnt be signed until after they played this final preseason game.
Quote from: The Waco Kid on September 01, 2005, 12:39:29 PM
Oh...well he's just bitter because they didn't go after Price. At least that's what it would seem to me. As far as i'm concerned, McCants could be one of those guys that needed a change of scenery, not to mention his entire team sucked and he had worthless QB's throwing to him since he was a rookie. I think he could benefit from McNabb and TO.
new coaches every year
New QBs throwing him the ball every year
New oline every year
ZERO consistency in this guy's career since he got there. A change of scenery and a top QB/Coaching staff that have been together for years should help him. I'm not saying this guy is the missing piece to them winning the Super Bowl, but slamming him is retarded.
[sarcasm]I used to believe the "change of scenery" rationale until the Astros traded Billy Wagner for Brandon Duckworth.[/sarcasm]
mccants.... we'll see what happens.
Quote from: Mad-Lad on September 01, 2005, 12:46:25 PM
[sarcasm]I used to believe the "change of scenery" rationale until the Astros traded Billy Wagner for Brandon Duckworth.[/sarcasm]
mccants.... we'll see what happens.
Bad choice of words then.
He hasn't had any stability at all. That's more my point than anything. New schemes EVERY year. New QB throwing to him EVERY year. Kind of makes a difference in one's progression.
He had his best years while playing in a pass whacky offense. The Eagles run a pass-whacky offense. He'll be whacky good.
werd life bro
I just thought i'd take a quick jab at Duckworth, that's all. Sure, being in a stable offensive scheme can benefit him greatly. We'll see though.
Quote from: The Waco Kid on September 01, 2005, 12:39:29 PM
Oh...well he's just bitter because they didn't go after Price. At least that's what it would seem to me. As far as i'm concerned, McCants could be one of those guys that needed a change of scenery, not to mention his entire team sucked and he had worthless QB's throwing to him since he was a rookie. I think he could benefit from McNabb and TO.
Like Simoneau needed a change of scenery and benifitted from Johnson's defensive scheme??? I don't know about this guy should he be signed. Plus, he has such a negative name. Doesn't his name mean "son of can't???" What kind of lineage does this guy come from? I'd prefer a McCan or a McDo or possibly a McOwnyerass.
Quote from: sallad selgae on September 01, 2005, 12:52:41 PM
Quote from: The Waco Kid on September 01, 2005, 12:39:29 PM
Oh...well he's just bitter because they didn't go after Price. At least that's what it would seem to me. As far as i'm concerned, McCants could be one of those guys that needed a change of scenery, not to mention his entire team sucked and he had worthless QB's throwing to him since he was a rookie. I think he could benefit from McNabb and TO.
Like Simoneau needed a change of scenery and benifitted from Johnson's defensive scheme???
He hasn't had any stability at all. That's more my point than anything. New schemes EVERY year. New QB throwing to him EVERY year. Kind of makes a difference in one's progression.
Repetition always makes an argument stronger.
WHACKY GOOD!
Quote from: PhillyGirl on September 01, 2005, 12:53:55 PM
Quote from: sallad selgae on September 01, 2005, 12:52:41 PM
Quote from: The Waco Kid on September 01, 2005, 12:39:29 PM
Oh...well he's just bitter because they didn't go after Price. At least that's what it would seem to me. As far as i'm concerned, McCants could be one of those guys that needed a change of scenery, not to mention his entire team sucked and he had worthless QB's throwing to him since he was a rookie. I think he could benefit from McNabb and TO.
Like Simoneau needed a change of scenery and benifitted from Johnson's defensive scheme???
He hasn't had any stability at all. That's more my point than anything. New schemes EVERY year. New QB throwing to him EVERY year. Kind of makes a difference in one's progression.
Hard to catch passes when you're in street clothes.
He doesn't wear street clothes, he's way too Metro for that.
I dont expect much of anything from McCants, but ill give the guy a shot. People forget that players like Darwin Walker and Keith Adams were also rejects for their former teams. Never know what you might get.
Sorry if this crashes the party, but has this actually been confirmed anywhere?? Nothing on PE.com and can't get on Philly.com for some reason.
Oh my god! Maybe we aren't actually getting McCants! Where is the confirmation?!
I think I just pooped a little.
Quote from: PhillyandBCEagles on September 01, 2005, 01:37:12 PM
Sorry if this crashes the party, but has this actually been confirmed anywhere?? Nothing on PE.com and can't get on Philly.com for some reason.
The reports indicate that the Eagles won't sign him until Friday, because they'd have to release a player before tonight's pre-season game that could contribute with some playing time if they didn't wait.
But, you're right. It isn't done until it's done.
Quote from: MURP on September 01, 2005, 01:35:21 PM
I dont expect much of anything from McCants, but ill give the guy a shot. People forget that players like Darwin Walker and Keith Adams were also rejects for their former teams. Never know what you might get.
That was a very Forrest Gump-ian like post. ;)
may Lieutenant Dan forever haunt you.
As long as he brings he cheap booze and hookers with him.
The current slant is that NFL Network is trying to create suspense, saying that Price and his agent contacted the Eagles because Price really wants to play in Philly, so the Eagles are mulling options and will announce after the game tonight which WR they are choosing.
Personally, I think that's a BS story.
Sounds a little far fetched.
Ditto.
Especially since according to Lightbulbhead
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Price check: Approximately 15 teams checked in on the availability of former Falcons wide receiver Peerless Price. He's mapped out a preliminary plan. He will visit the Miami Dolphins Thursday and then see the Dallas Cowboys Friday. He has some West Coast visits for over the weekend and next week and he would like to see the Eagles. Price would like to get something done by over the weekend or early next week.
Hmmm... which is more reliable...
I'll say neither, but I think it's a moot point anyway. The Eagles have obviously already decided on McCants.
I would giggle a bit if they did end up signing Price for some reason. That would be strange.
Would shock the hell out of me. I just don't see any reason to bump Lewis down....or Brown for that matter.
Just because they sign Price doesn't mean they'll put him over Lewis and Brown, or he'll be able to pass them. I think Price is better, but its such a minor addition to the football team that isn't irrelevent if they even sign someone. I think we can manage just fine with either/both McMullen and Perez in the 4 spot. But since a WR would be coming in here for a Banner cap-friendly deal, it can't hurt.
I like that there's some suspense, but I still think it will be McCants.
Quote from: MDS on September 01, 2005, 02:25:03 PM
Just because they sign Price doesn't mean they'll put him over Lewis and Brown, or he'll be able to pass them. I think Price is better, but its such a minor addition to the football team that isn't irrelevent if they even sign someone. I think we can manage just fine with either/both McMullen and Perez in the 4 spot. But since a WR would be coming in here for a Banner cap-friendly deal, it can't hurt.
There are 15 teams who are going to be looking at him, according to a few sources. Why would he go to a team where he doesn't know if he isn't going to have a chance to be the 1 or 2...and possibly not even the 3?
Common sense please.
I would bet that at least 12 of those 15 teams don't have any serious intention of signing him. That would all almost certainly be preliminary interest only.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on September 01, 2005, 02:27:14 PM
There are 15 teams who are going to be looking at him, according to a few sources. Why would he go to a team where he doesn't know if he isn't going to have a chance to be the 1 or 2...and possibly not even the 3?
Common sense please.
Lets see, maybe he wants to play for a championship-calibur team?
Personally I think he'll go to the Cowboys and Bledsoe, who he has his best years with.
If the reports are true he wants to come here, maybe he accepts less money and a smaller role. Probably not true, but it's just a comment. I'm fine with McCants, I'm fine with Perez/McMullen. Price would be nice, but not needed.
I still think Warrick would have been a better option than any of the other stiffs (including Pinky) but McCants is a better option than either Price or Twiggy.
Whatever... he's still going to be the fourth WR option until he gets familiar with the offense, so it's no big deal in any case.
Exactly. Regardless of whom they bring in, it'll be a move for depth. Expectations that any player they bring in will make any major impact this year are just silly.
That's crazy. How can a guy who couldn't make the taterskins not have a major impact on the best team in the NFL?
Quote from: phattymatty on September 01, 2005, 02:46:40 PM
That's crazy. How can a guy who couldn't make the taterskins not have a major impact on the best team in the NFL?
Hmmm, where has anyone on here said he'd be anything more than a solid
#4 WR?
Go Carlos.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on September 01, 2005, 02:03:41 PM
Ditto.
Especially since according to Lightbulbhead
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Price check: Approximately 15 teams checked in on the availability of former Falcons wide receiver Peerless Price. He's mapped out a preliminary plan. He will visit the Miami Dolphins Thursday and then see the Dallas Cowboys Friday. He has some West Coast visits for over the weekend and next week and he would like to see the Eagles. Price would like to get something done by over the weekend or early next week.
hm, AJ Feeley play fakes to rickey williams, and throws an out to peerless price.
it's a WIP caller's wet dream
:-D :-D :-D
Quote from: PhillyGirl on September 01, 2005, 02:49:07 PM
Hmmm, where has anyone on here said he'd be anything more than a solid #4 WR?
I said it. He's an amazing fit.
There's no way we don't win the SB now that we have McCants. For these following reasons:
1. Since he's not that good, he won't hinder the growth of our current WRs, which are the best possible options the Eagles could ever have.
2. He's very cheap so we can keep all 15 mil of our cap money and show all of the other teams how smart we are.
3. All other available WRs are total headcases and we can't have another cancer on the team like TO.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on September 01, 2005, 12:44:52 PM
Quote from: The Waco Kid on September 01, 2005, 12:39:29 PM
Oh...well he's just bitter because they didn't go after Price. At least that's what it would seem to me. As far as i'm concerned, McCants could be one of those guys that needed a change of scenery, not to mention his entire team sucked and he had worthless QB's throwing to him since he was a rookie. I think he could benefit from McNabb and TO.
new coaches every year
New QBs throwing him the ball every year
New oline every year
ZERO consistency in this guy's career since he got there. A change of scenery and a top QB/Coaching staff that have been together for years should help him. I'm not saying this guy is the missing piece to them winning the Super Bowl, but slamming him is retarded.
well now he has another new coach, another new QB, and another new o-line.
:yay
i couldnt care less about this guy. but being deacivated on the skins is not a sign i see as a positive. (by deductive logic, james thrash is better than he is)
he'll never see the field as an eagle unless someone gets hurt.
Of course he'll see the field. They wouldn't sign him if he wouldn't.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on September 01, 2005, 02:20:29 PM
Would shock the hell out of me. I just don't see any reason to bump Lewis down....or Brown for that matter.
How about the
possibilty of putting a better WR on the field in their place. I mean, I believe it's McCants as well, and I'm cool with that, but I just don't understand while some of you guys seem so afraid of letting someone compete with Lewis or Brown.
Because if the Eagles say Lewis and Brown are the guys, then they can't possibly be wrong.
Also if the Eagles want Mccants then he is obviously better than Price. The Eagles have never made a personnel mistake since Andy got here. How dare us have our own opinions on which WR you would like to see in an Eagles uniform and shame on you for doubting the Eagles!
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Quote from: Monster on September 01, 2005, 04:46:38 PM
Because if the Eagles say Lewis and Brown are the guys, then they can't possibly be wrong.
Also if the Eagles want Mccants then he is obviously better than Price. The Eagles have never made a personnel mistake since Andy got here. How dare us have our own opinions on which WR you would like to see in an Eagles uniform and shame on you for doubting the Eagles!
You make me miss NB.
Why are you guys still talking about this? What difference doesn't make which reject wide receiver the Eagles sign? None of them are going to do anything in the short term to buck the WR pecking order so who gives a shtein who they sign?
i just realized, i dont like that half of our recievers have the same names as half of our defensive backfield.
Quote from: Wingspan on September 01, 2005, 04:50:49 PM
i just realized, i dont like that half of our recievers have the same names as half of our defensive backfield.
I'm having trouble reading this sentence and making it make sense.
I just read it and moved on. There was no point in trying to make it make sense.
Quote from: rjs246 on September 01, 2005, 04:51:45 PM
Quote from: Wingspan on September 01, 2005, 04:50:49 PM
i just realized, i dont like that half of our recievers have the same names as half of our defensive backfield.
I'm having trouble reading this sentence and making it make sense.
Lewis and Brown, twit.
twit
twut
twat
Quote from: Tomahawk on September 01, 2005, 04:52:56 PM
Quote from: rjs246 on September 01, 2005, 04:51:45 PM
Quote from: Wingspan on September 01, 2005, 04:50:49 PM
i just realized, i dont like that half of our recievers have the same names as half of our defensive backfield.
I'm having trouble reading this sentence and making it make sense.
Lewis and Brown, twit.
Damn... too bad our nickel back isn't Rod McCants. Then we'd really be the ish!
Ballhair.
I'm just saying that is how a lot of you guys come off. I mean you don't have to agree with me or anyone else, but whenever ANYONE comes on here and doesn't like a move that the Eagles make or argues with something they do, you guys jump all over them. That is ok once in a while, but that has become more of a broken record than anything. Eventually arguing over trivial stuff gets boring and that can't be proven until we see them play it out on the field. I'm sorry that I committed such a terrible crime in preferring another receiver. It is just so predictable. I knew the second I posted that they were going to regret not signing Warrick, at least 5 posters were going to be there to bash me. I don't have a problem with it, but it does get annoying having to argue for 3 pages whenever you aren't with the status quo.
My take is that neither Warrick nor McCants will likely be much to either team, but McCants is cheaper and is a good red-zone target... whereas Warrick still has delusions of grandeur and has failed to be a star in the NFL despite having chances to start and make a ton of plays.
The fact that you'd even think it's a big deal to "lose out" on Peter farging Warrick is laughable.
So I make fun of you, because you deserve it.
You feel the same way about Price as you do Warrick?
No. I wouldn't mind the Eagles adding Price into the mix. I question how the depth chart would round out, and I think it is a move with it that carries a lot more risk.
I'd rather the Eagles add a guy like McCants at this point. Price would be OK too, though, but out-of-profile for this front office... so much so that I still think there is zero chance Price will be the guy.
Quote from: FFatPatt on September 01, 2005, 05:04:49 PM
No. I wouldn't mind the Eagles adding Price into the mix. I question how the depth chart would round out, and I think it is a move with it that carries a lot more risk.
I'd rather the Eagles add a guy like McCants at this point. Price would be OK too, though, but out-of-profile for this front office... so much so that I still think there is zero chance Price will be the guy.
I think it'll be McCants too... and I definitely see the positives about it. It bothers me that he's not a WCO guy and that seems out-of-profile for the FO in itself but... I guess we just see the shaking of the depth chart differently. IMO, competition hurts no one (Other than maybe at QB)... while it helps the team. It ensures the best players are out there. Let's face it. That's what we all want. If Wilbur proved to be more of a weapon than Lewis, we wouldn't give two sheets about Greg dropping down the depth chart. I don't see the harm in letting a proven guy come in and compete and let Lewis and Brown prove that they deserve the positions that honestly, they have because of circumstance. Let's remember that while Greg was being given an increased role in the O, he wasn't slated to be a starter. Don't get me wrong though.. I don't mean that as a shot ant Greg and Reggie because I actually have a good amount of confidence in them. It's just the "What If" factor, I guess. What if Price, already with experience in the WCO comes and shows that he was a victim of having to deal with Vick throwing the ball on a run first team. IMO, both Price and McCants will increase the depth of the WR corps. I just see Price as potential to do more by making us better at the top of the chart as well as the bottom. I'm not saying let him start... I'm saying make him come here and earn it just like anyone else. AR tells just about every FA that they'll have to earn their job, the same can go for Price.
We all know they won't pay a ton of money for him... so we could be outbid for him. Doesn't mean that it's a bad idea to look his way like some folk have implied.
Y'know what?
I'm NOT fine with signing McCants! How the hell are we supposed to defend signing this corny MF'er?! (http://www.darnerienmccants.com/) :-\ :boom
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Apparently Vai is reporting that the Eagles will sign McCants if McMullen struggles again tonight and is released. Vai is usually wrong though...
Quote from: BigEd76 on September 01, 2005, 05:56:24 PM
Apparently Vai is reporting that the Eagles will sign McCants if McMullen struggles again tonight and is released. Vai is usually wrong though...
if or
when?
Quote from: rjs246 on September 01, 2005, 04:51:45 PM
Quote from: Wingspan on September 01, 2005, 04:50:49 PM
i just realized, i dont like that half of our recievers have the same names as half of our defensive backfield.
I'm having trouble reading this sentence and making it make sense.
I got that one wrong in my SAT's.
Quote from: BigEd76 on September 01, 2005, 05:56:24 PM
Apparently Vai is reporting that the Eagles will sign McCants if McMullen struggles again tonight and is released. Vai is usually wrong though...
TO is planning a mockery of the Eagles after being sent home for a week. Shut up Vai.
Quote from: BigEd76 on September 01, 2005, 05:56:24 PM
Apparently Vai is reporting that the Eagles will sign McCants if McMullen struggles again tonight and is released. Vai is usually wrong though...
I told you all that Carlos will make it.
Carlos is better than Mcmullen.
We could just re-sign Fred-ex now that he's an ex-Chief. :-D
Price had a crash course in something vaguely resembling the WCO in Atlanta last year, so in that regard he'd have a slight leg up on McCants.
So he'll be all set for running plays.
From the blurbs at the bottom of Dave's column:
QuoteThe Eagles acknowledged that they worked out wide receiver Darnerian McCants, the former taterskins wide receiver, on Wednesday. The Eagles said the workout went well, that they likled his size and ability to get down the field and go up for passes. Still, there is no word on a contract offer or agreement, as has been reported.
Both the DN & Inky report that McCants will be signed today or tomorrow once cuts are made.
I guess Comcast is reporting that McCants was 'officially' signed today and that there's a trade with the Phins in place for Gordon. We're supposedly giving up a 3rd? ??? :boo
Quote from: SD_Eagle on September 02, 2005, 06:43:18 PM
there's a trade with the Phins in place for Gordon. We're supposedly giving up a 3rd? ??? :boo
Not good. :boo
Comcast blows.
Quote from: Die-Hard on September 02, 2005, 06:45:37 PM
Quote from: SD_Eagle on September 02, 2005, 06:43:18 PM
there's a trade with the Phins in place for Gordon. We're supposedly giving up a 3rd? ??? :boo
Not good. :boo
Ehhh...maybe I read that wrong. Don't know what we'd be giving up. But Gunn is reporting that McCants is definitely aboard.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on September 02, 2005, 06:52:30 PM
Quote from: Die-Hard on September 02, 2005, 06:45:37 PM
Quote from: SD_Eagle on September 02, 2005, 06:43:18 PM
there's a trade with the Phins in place for Gordon. We're supposedly giving up a 3rd? ??? :boo
Not good. :boo
Ehhh...maybe I read that wrong. Don't know what we'd be giving up. But Gunn is reporting that McCants is definitely aboard.
Didn't the Dolphins give a 3rd to acquire him? I can't imagine the Eagles doing the same maybe a 4th or a 5th. The Eagles value picks that high way too much to give them up for a player of his caliber, if indeed true I would be shocked.
A 6th not a 3rd.
and I think the Delaware COuntry Times reported it.
We owe them from the Feeley trade. ;D
I don't think we even have a 6th rounder. We traded it to the Cokeboys to get an extra 4th.
All's CSN said was "The Eagles could be close to trading for Dolphins RB Lamar Gordon. Miami is said to be asking for a 6th round pick for him".
Sure why not for a 6th.
Ima gona kill Andy for a 3rd.
Quote from: MDS on September 02, 2005, 07:38:35 PM
Sure why not for a 6th.
Ima gona kill Andy for a 3rd.
NO ONE reported a 3rd. SD Eagle was mistaken.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 02, 2005, 07:32:10 PM
All's CSN said was "The Eagles could be close to trading for Dolphins RB Lamar Gordon. Miami is said to be asking for a 6th round pick for him".
A 6th for Gordon doesn't seem to bad. Especially given the way that the team robed them in the Feeley trade.
Even if they pick up Gordon, I don't see him having any impact this year whatsoever. I think he'd just be an extra body in a worst case scenario. Going in to the regular season, I'm comfortable with who we have. If you need a reminder, just go to Ryan Moats' website www.ryanmoats.com (http://www.ryanmoats.com) and look at his highlight video. I've seen him in a few preseason games, and believe already he is a better back than Gordon.
Quote from: PhillyPhaninDC on September 02, 2005, 08:25:22 PM
Even if they pick up Gordon, I don't see him having any impact this year whatsoever. I think he'd just be an extra body in a worst case scenario. Going in to the regular season, I'm comfortable with who we have. If you need a reminder, just go to Ryan Moats' website www.ryanmoats.com (http://www.ryanmoats.com) and look at his highlight video. I've seen him in a few preseason games, and believe already he is a better back than Gordon.
I think Moats is fine too as a backup but you NEED a big back for short yardage and late game aka blowout games. Gordon for a 6th would be fine by me.
I don't think Gordon's size (6-1, 223) alone makes him a good short yardage back. From what I have seen and of Gordon, he lacks vision, break away speed, hands, and blocking ability. Again though, for a sixth pick, I am fine with picking him up, I still feel Dorsey would do a better job of the deal. If they bring him in, fine, I just don't think he'll amount to much.
Quote from: PhillyPhaninDC on September 02, 2005, 08:32:06 PM
I don't think Gordon's size (6-1, 223) alone makes him a good short yardage back. From what I have seen and of Gordon, he lacks vision, break away speed, hands, and blocking ability. Again though, for a sixth pick, I am fine with picking him up, I still feel Dorsey would do a better job of the deal. If they bring him in, fine, I just don't think he'll amount to much.
I'd rather keep the draft pick and bring in Dorsey myself.
Id rather the Eagles get Levens for no pick, rather than give up a pick for a player who I feel is less adequate. Thats why I am employed as a GM in the NFL. nice.
Meh....a sixth round pick is nothing to major, and taking a flyer on Gordon, who has already made it in the NFL on a run first team isn't terrible. I'd like to see him brought in for depth, and have Dorsey come in for this year. But I don't think the Eagles will carry that many backs. I would be pissed if they brought Gordon in instead of Dorsey.
It's a tough call, because even if they do bring in Levens, this should definately be the last year he'd play, so I would like to see them bring in someone younger with similar skills they could develop over time to give them what Dorsey does. One guy I like, who went seventh in this years draft to the Skins was Nehemiah Broughton (5-11 250) out of The Citadel. He has looked like a excellent blocker and short-yardage back. Real punishing runner. So....if we could find something along those lines late in the draft next year...I'd say stick it out with Dorsey one more time.
gordon would be a nice pickup, imo. he's better insurance than levens in case something happens to westbrook. of course, moats is there too.
anyway, gordon > levens and mahe.
I dunno Hunt, that's setting the bar pretty high :paranoid
Quote from: MadMarchHare on September 02, 2005, 09:24:02 PM
I dunno Hunt, that's setting the bar pretty high :paranoid
okay...you can add perry to that list too. :-D
I don't think Gordon is necessarily better than Levens. A lot more upside, though.
And, seriously, we're hopefully talking about maybe 50 touches all season.
I think McCants signed.
Check out his poetry...Put the capitals together... (http://www.darnerien.com/commerce/mywords/mywords.asp)
ha. ohhhhh man.
Quote from: Larry on September 02, 2005, 11:40:02 PM
I think McCants signed.
Check out his poetry...Put the capitals together... (http://www.darnerien.com/commerce/mywords/mywords.asp)
Does he think he's clever? Hoo boy.
Anyway, conveniently, #85 is wide open on the Eagles roster already. I'm sure they're just waiting to announce until they make all the rest of the cuts.
Like I said, McCants is in... now do they replace the winner of the McMullen/Perez battle (IMO McMullen wins) with someone like Price? I guess it's an extremely remote possibility.
Quote from: Larry on September 02, 2005, 11:40:02 PM
I think McCants signed.
Check out his poetry...Put the capitals together... (http://www.darnerien.com/commerce/mywords/mywords.asp)
For the lazy arses out there that don't want to click a link.... :boom
I Belive I CAN FLY...
I us
E to think th
At i could not
Go on, and
Lif
E wa
S just an awful song
but now i know the meaning of true love
if i can see it then i can be it
if i just belive then i can do it
I belive i can fly
I belive i can touch the sky
I think about it everyday
spread wings and fly away
I like the signing to be honest & I think he fits better w/ the Eagles than he did w/ the foreskins. Hopefully he blossoms into a good Wr...He certainly has the talent to do so.
Quote from: FFatPatt on September 02, 2005, 11:44:15 PM
Like I said, McCants is in... now do they replace the winner of the McMullen/Perez battle (IMO McMullen wins) with someone like Price? I guess it's an extremely remote possibility.
The only way I see them bringing in another wideout is if they find someone who can step in immediately as the #2. That means a receiver who has a strong background in the WCO. Peerless Price, Jimmy Smith, Fred--nah won't even go there. :boom :-D
After seeing that, I don't want him.
:-D What a dork.
Also, isn't that a song? :paranoid
Quote from: Geowhizzer on September 03, 2005, 08:22:17 AM
:-D What a dork.
Also, isn't that a song? :paranoid
Yes, made famous by a guy who likes to give golden showers to 15-year-old girls.
Sounds like him and douchebag Dhani should get along great.
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on September 03, 2005, 10:33:30 AM
Sounds like him and douchebag Dhani should get along great.
:-D
Still mad that Dhani shot you the bone, bro?
The Eagles haven't officially announced this yet?
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 03, 2005, 12:42:23 PM
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on September 03, 2005, 10:33:30 AM
Sounds like him and douchebag Dhani should get along great.
:-D
Still mad that Dhani shot you the bone, bro?
Yes, I hate him!
From PE.com
QuoteWR McCANTS SIGNS ONE-YEAR DEAL
September 3, 2005
By CHRIS McPHERSON
The Eagles added depth at the wide receiver position Saturday by signing former Washington taterskin Darnerien McCants to a one-year contract.
"McCants has good size and speed and has made a lot of plays with the taterskins, in particular against us," said head coach Andy Reid. "We'll see what kind of role he fills once we get him acclimated to our offense."
McCants will meet the media later this evening.
Entering this season, McCants was battling to be the taterskins' big receiver. But it was 6-3, 214-pound McCants' inability to contribute on special teams helped lead to his dismissal in Washington, according to published reports.
His size and potential caught the attention of Reid who worked him out on Wednesday. Following the Eagles' preseason finale against the Jets on Thursday night, Reid said that "he did a nice job in the work out. We'll see how things go here. We are keeping our eyes open with all these guys, but he did have a good workout."
McCants has been sort of an enigma in his first four seasons in the NFL. The former Delaware State star had a breakout season in 2003 catching 27 passes for 360 yards and six touchdowns. However, McCants regressed in 2004 and only had five catches for 71 yards, while being inactive for 10 games.
Against the Eagles in his career, McCants had 11 receptions for 149 yards and a touchdown.
McCants will need to learn the Eagles' offense, but could instantly develop into a key special teams guy with the help of one of the top coaches in the league in coordinator John Harbaugh.
McCants, a 5th round draft choice of Washington in 2001, appeared in 29 games for the taterskins, including three starts. After being inactive for all 16 games of his rookie year, he went on to record 53 receptions for 687 yards and eight touchdowns over the next three seasons.
A Gambrills, Md., native, McCants starred collegiately at Delaware State, where as a tight end caught 36 passes for 692 yards and 18 touchdowns during his senior season. His touchdown total led all of Division I-AA that year and set new school and conference records.
Boo!
Team McCants is happy about how everything turned out!
Meh.....I heard a rumor he signed for the vet minimum......if he works great, if not, who gives a shtein?
(http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/uploads/photos/perm/main/JDDFBAPMDHII/mccants_darnerien_1.jpg)
They butchered that picture. :boo :boo For the photoshopping.
I like that McCants is very capable in the red zone. In limited NFL action, he's found the end zone 8 times... and this little blurb from his intro article on PE.com just cements that.
QuoteA Gambrills, Md., native, McCants starred collegiately at Delaware State, where as a tight end caught 36 passes for 692 yards and 18 touchdowns during his senior season. His touchdown total led all of Division I-AA that year and set new school and conference records.
36 receptions. 1/2 of them were TD's.
I'll bet Reid has him working in the goalline packages by week 3.
QuoteMcCants officially an Eagle
By REUBEN FRANK
phillyBurbs.com
Darnerian McCants couldn't believe his ears.
A package?
For him?
McCants, buried deep on the bench in Washington, formally joined the Eagles Saturday, three days after he unofficially agreed to terms of a one-year contract to serve as the Eagles' fourth receiver.
"The greatest thing coach (Andy) Reid said to me was that with my abilities, they will build a package around me," McCants said. "So even if it's only three or four plays a game, I know that's three or four opportunities I'm going to have.
"I can't beat that one. That's telling me he's going to get me on the field."
Where he rarely got to last year.
McCants, a 28-year-old wide receiver out of Delaware State, found himself inactive on opening day a year ago when the taterskins faced the Buccaneers at FedEx Field.
"That's when I knew I wasn't in their plans," he said. "I only played four games and it wasn't very productive."
McCants played in only five games for a taterskins team that went 6-10. He caught just five passes for 71 yards and was released on Monday.
"The worst year of my life," he said. "You tell a person to work hard and he does what he's told and there's no results, that's tough. Getting released was a blessing in disguise. I was really happy." (PG note: Seems to be a trend with players who go to the Skins)
In 2002 and 2003, he caught 48 passes for 616 yards, including a career-best 4-for-79 performance against the Eagles two years ago.
"I was given an opportunity to play in those games," he said. "Maybe the other receivers were doubled or (quarterback Pat) Ramsey happened to hit me at the right time."
The Eagles like McCants as veteran depth behind starters Terrell Owens and Greg Lewis and impressive rookie Reggie Brown. McCants, who stands 6-foot-3, 215 pounds, moves ahead of 2003 third-round pick Billy McMullen, who survived yesterday's roster cuts but does not appear to be in the team's plans.
"I've never had a Hall of Fame quarterback or a winning program or a wide receiver (like Owens) who's my size," he said. "That's somebody I can definitely learn from.
"This is a great place to be. I have a chance to win here and that's something I have not done in football."
Quote"The worst year of my life," he said. "You tell a person to work hard and he does what he's told and there's no results, that's tough. Getting released was a blessing in disguise. I was really happy."
Funny the burgandy and gold Kool-Aid drinkers would have you believe it was
Turner,
Schottenheimer, Spurrier's fault. Now they have Gibbs back and it's a whole new line of unreasonable reasoning.
For those with Comcast SportsNet, check out the segment with McCants on SportsNite/SportsRise. With the glasses, he reminds me of Pootie Tang. :-D
(http://www.rightfieldsucks.com/images/Pootie.jpg)
"Sa da tay!"
During the segment, he goes to Geno's and says "I know all about that 'Wiz Wit' stuff, but I want a cheesesteak with provolone, fried onions, lettuce, tomato, mayonnaise and black pepper. This is my first one."
Cook: "This is your first?"
DM: "Yeah."
Cook: "Then you don't want a cheesesteak hoagie. You want a real cheesesteak." :-D
While waiting for his cheesesteak:
DM: "I'm new in town."
Cook: "How come?"
DM: "I just signed with the Eagles."
Cook: "What position?"
DM: "Wide receiver."
Cook: "Oh...we've been waiting for you!" :-D
Quote from: BigEd76 on September 05, 2005, 01:36:08 AM
DM: "I'm new in town."
Cook: "How come?"
DM: "I just signed with the Eagles."
Cook: "What position?"
DM: "Wide receiver."
Cook: "Oh...we've been waiting for you!" :-D
Ha. Nice.