Before some of you say to yourself "IS HE NUTS?! McNabb has handled every situation with class and a cool and calm attitude and never let it affect his play on the field!!" keep reading. McNabb seems to let things really get to him and take a lot of things personally which means holding grudges. Now when things get to you, you can handle it in a number of ways. McNabb usually comes off as cool and calm about the subject, but you have to recognize the fact that usually he has a couple days at the least to prepare for answering questions on specific matters involving him and the team(minus post-game press conferences which are basically only questions about the game itself). Also if you are a good actor, you can hide your true feelings, and McNabb does have experience acting in chunky soup commercials. :P
At times I can see through his words and look at simple face expressions and mannerisms. I can still see tension and bitterness in his face when people bring up him being booed at the draft. Now it's good he uses that to motivate himself, but I know deep down he doesn't like the Philly fans because of a few idiots that booed him. I even remember that segment he did with Bradshaw where he said he likes Syracuse fans more than Philly fans, and that annoyed me a bit. When the Rush Limbaugh situation came up, he was cool and calm in the press conference, but when someone catches him off-guard in a locker room, you can see the bitterness in his face. You can hear in his voice that it does bother him. I also think that criticism really gets to him. Now this TO thing comes along, and once again days after TO's original comment McNabb has a while to prepare for the response to the media and doesn't make it look like it bothered him. When you are talking to the media it's easy to dodge questions. Then as more stations talked to him like ESPN and the like, you could tell by looking at him that those comments got to him.
Now is the latest of all things, and that was the ESPYs. I have not seen it and if anyone has a clip of it, I would love to see it, but everyone is saying all over that McNabb just looked like he absolutely did not want to be there. I did see TO do the awards and he looked like he was having a good time, but from what I hear McNabb looked very bitter and looked like things were very awkward. TO did not. Is McNabb too sensitive to criticism? It seems from my point of view that when McNabb can't dodge questions and has to be placed in an awkward situation he doesn't handle it very well. Even if TO did take some stabs at you, you have to at least have a sit down with him or try to make things right for the sake of the team. TO's comments were not warranted, but it's not like he said I hope he dies a horrible death or anything. What does this all mean? McNabb seems to play great regardless of criticism, so I'm not trying to say that McNabb being sensitive will prevent him from winning a Superbowl or anything. I'm just a little concerned for the guy for this season though. If it was that awkward at the ESPYs, it can't help that 2-way chemistry on the field this upcoming season. They need to be on the same page. I know TO did make the little jabs at him, so naturally he should be the one to apologize, but you know he isn't going to. So sometimes the bigger man has to step up and make things right. The bigger man in this situation is Donovan. Do you guys think he's too sensitive?
Is there a Reader's Digest version?
He's not getting "criticism". He's taking pot-shteins from an egotistical icehole. And he's been taking them the whole off-season.
Criticism is dealing with questions of his accuracy, which he's dealt with much of his career. They certainly haven't seemed to hurt his feelings, or negatively impact his play or growth as a player.
So, in a word, yeah, your nuts. ;)
McNabb (and TO) will get the job done on the field, where it matters.
Of course the negative stuff bothers him, he's human! I'm not sure I get your point. We have no idea what happens behind the scenes between him and TO and frankly, I don't care. As long as McNabb uses theses distractions as challenges and rises to the occasion I could care less how he feels as a person he's being paid to play football and to win championships. That being said, I pesonally think he has more class than most professional athletes and that is all that matters in my mind.
We have no idea how this athletes really feel about anything. they are actors, they say what they need to say and try to develop an image or persona that they use to brand themselves. I pay no attention to that stuff. Just win and I'll be happy...
I'm with TempleOwl here; McNabb is just a dude with his own personality. Doesn't seem like any sensitivity has impacted his play on the field, so I don't much care how sensitive he is. Beyond that, if that were true, I doubt he be able to change that much. But at the end of the day, people do stuff that rubs him the wrong way...just like it would anyone.
I echo the last 2 posts. And no offense, but that's about all this thread will get from me.
PS...don't believe what you "hear". Formulate your own opinions before listening to what others say.
sorry, it's too long for me to read, especially this early in the morning, so i'll just echo PG's sentiments except the whole formulate your own opinions, sometimes it's just easier to use someone elses (like is seen in this post)
Quote from: T_Section224 on July 26, 2005, 09:08:54 AM
sorry, it's too long for me to read, especially this early in the morning, so i'll just echo PG's sentiments except the whole formulate your own opinions, sometimes it's just easier to use someone elses (like is seen in this post)
I meant on second hand things....like, what someone's opinion was on what McNabb looked like after TO's comments at the ESPYs.
I think McNabb is too sensitive. I also think TO is the greatest WR ever. Freddie Mitchell has amazing hands. Todd Pinkston is scared of his shadow. Simoneau is poop. Trotter is slow and overruns plays. Strahan owns Runyan. Tra Thomas can't handle speed rushers. Andy Reid can't coach in big games. And everything else I've ever heard anyone say about the Eagles.
Believe whatever you want. We'll still win 12 games every year.
Quote from: rjs246 on July 26, 2005, 09:22:48 AM
I think McNabb is too sensitive. I also think TO is the greatest WR ever. Freddie Mitchell has amazing hands. Todd Pinkston is scared of his shadow. Simoneau is poop. Trotter is slow and overruns plays. Strahan owns Runyan. Tra Thomas can't handle speed rushers. Andy Reid can't coach in big games. And everything else I've ever heard anyone say about the Eagles.
Believe whatever you want. We'll still win 12 games every year.
hahaha
can someone summarize this for me? i am fairly certian it's about the mcnabb's tiny peepee or something. something on how he cant take critizism or win the big game and how owens is the reason the NFL is even in existence.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on July 26, 2005, 09:21:08 AMI meant on second hand things....like, what someone's opinion was on what McNabb looked like after TO's comments at the ESPYs.
;) ;D
lmao @ rjs :-D
McNabb's down for his crown, dawg. Better recognize.
Maybe McNabb looked stress because he had diarrhea or maybe he felt nauseous that night or maybe his wife didn't put out that day and he was pissed.
You can't assume it was because he was uncomfortable with TO's presence. Hell, maybe he thinks the ESPY's are BS just like i do.
Quote from: TO is GOD on July 26, 2005, 04:22:21 AM
Before some of you say to yourself "IS HE NUTS?! McNabb has handled every situation with class and a cool and calm attitude and never let it affect his play on the field!!" keep reading. McNabb seems to let things really get to him and take a lot of things personally which means holding grudges. Now when things get to you, you can handle it in a number of ways. McNabb usually comes off as cool and calm about the subject, but you have to recognize the fact that usually he has a couple days at the least to prepare for answering questions on specific matters involving him and the team(minus post-game press conferences which are basically only questions about the game itself). Also if you are a good actor, you can hide your true feelings, and McNabb does have experience acting in chunky soup commercials. :P
At times I can see through his words and look at simple face expressions and mannerisms. I can still see tension and bitterness in his face when people bring up him being booed at the draft. Now it's good he uses that to motivate himself, but I know deep down he doesn't like the Philly fans because of a few idiots that booed him. I even remember that segment he did with Bradshaw where he said he likes Syracuse fans more than Philly fans, and that annoyed me a bit. When the Rush Limbaugh situation came up, he was cool and calm in the press conference, but when someone catches him off-guard in a locker room, you can see the bitterness in his face. You can hear in his voice that it does bother him. I also think that criticism really gets to him. Now this TO thing comes along, and once again days after TO's original comment McNabb has a while to prepare for the response to the media and doesn't make it look like it bothered him. When you are talking to the media it's easy to dodge questions. Then as more stations talked to him like ESPN and the like, you could tell by looking at him that those comments got to him.
Now is the latest of all things, and that was the ESPYs. I have not seen it and if anyone has a clip of it, I would love to see it, but everyone is saying all over that McNabb just looked like he absolutely did not want to be there. I did see TO do the awards and he looked like he was having a good time, but from what I hear McNabb looked very bitter and looked like things were very awkward. TO did not. Is McNabb too sensitive to criticism? It seems from my point of view that when McNabb can't dodge questions and has to be placed in an awkward situation he doesn't handle it very well. Even if TO did take some stabs at you, you have to at least have a sit down with him or try to make things right for the sake of the team. TO's comments were not warranted, but it's not like he said I hope he dies a horrible death or anything. What does this all mean? McNabb seems to play great regardless of criticism, so I'm not trying to say that McNabb being sensitive will prevent him from winning a Superbowl or anything. I'm just a little concerned for the guy for this season though. If it was that awkward at the ESPYs, it can't help that 2-way chemistry on the field this upcoming season. They need to be on the same page. I know TO did make the little jabs at him, so naturally he should be the one to apologize, but you know he isn't going to. So sometimes the bigger man has to step up and make things right. The bigger man in this situation is Donovan. Do you guys think he's too sensitive?
You're making a lot of assumptions. You can see through his words? Riiiiiiiiight.
Quote from: The Waco Kid on July 26, 2005, 11:36:55 AM
Maybe McNabb looked stress because he had diarrhea or maybe he felt nauseous that night or maybe his wife didn't put out that day and he was pissed.
You can't assume it was because he was uncomfortable with TO's presence. Hell, maybe he thinks the ESPY's are BS just like i do.
Actually that is exactly how i interpreted his demeanor. He seemed disinterested in the whole thing, like it was all BS. I even made that comment to my kids.
All I want is to see the guy lighten up a bit. Of course he's human but I think he's too uptight. I'm not hating on him I love McNabb and would want no other QB to run this team. I don't think him being uptight could cost us a Superbowl, but it seems like it's very easy to screw up a relationship with McNabb. Say one wrong thing and he holds a big-time grudge.
I think you are reading way too much into things. He seems like the exact oposite of uptight.
Quote from: TO is GOD on July 26, 2005, 04:00:46 PM
All I want is to see the guy lighten up a bit. Of course he's human but I think he's too uptight. I'm not hating on him I love McNabb and would want no other QB to run this team. I don't think him being uptight could cost us a Superbowl, but it seems like it's very easy to screw up a relationship with McNabb. Say one wrong thing and he holds a big-time grudge.
How in the motherfarg do you know if McNabb holds farging grudges?
Because he's holding one against him for naming himself TOisGOD. Leaves dirty messages on his answering machine.
McNabb still holds a grudge against those who booed him. He's talked about it a little before and said that he does what his momma told him to do -- forgive, but not forget. He uses that response on several things (TO ripping him, Limbaugh, being booed).
But he is human. Of course that stuff bothered him. But how he lets it bother him is why I like him. He'll address it and move on and use it to motivate him. He turns the negative into positive energy. I like that.
And I would hold a grudge against the people of my new professional town if they booed me even before I had a chance to prove myself. Hell yeah, I'd be a little bitter. Because they didn't just rip him professionally, they took personal shots at him. And those personal shots still ring true today, sadly. You can still hear it when people rip him now for stupid ass reasons.
I wish he was a little more open with the local media, but he's not. And I can't exactly blame him either. You see McNabb be himself more during national interviews. But with the Philadelphia guys he is more reserved and less personal.
Quote from: Tomahawk on July 26, 2005, 04:48:19 PMHow in the motherfarg do you know if McNabb holds farging grudges?
you can see it in his eyes :sly
Quote from: Tomahawk on July 26, 2005, 04:48:19 PM
Quote from: TO is GOD on July 26, 2005, 04:00:46 PM
All I want is to see the guy lighten up a bit. Of course he's human but I think he's too uptight. I'm not hating on him I love McNabb and would want no other QB to run this team. I don't think him being uptight could cost us a Superbowl, but it seems like it's very easy to screw up a relationship with McNabb. Say one wrong thing and he holds a big-time grudge.
How in the motherfarg do you know if McNabb holds farging grudges?
Educated guess.
no
Quote from: TO is GOD on July 26, 2005, 04:00:46 PM
All I want is to see the guy lighten up a bit. Of course he's human but I think he's too uptight.
:-D :-D
You're kidding right? I don't know McNabb from Adam but if there's one thing I think it's safe for me to say about the guy it's that he is nowhere near uptight.
This thread's a joke. If someone talked ish about you through the national media, I'd love to see how you'd respond everytime a reporter stuck a microphone in your face asking your comment on it for 4 months.
Quote from: TO is GOD on July 26, 2005, 04:22:21 AM
he said he likes Syracuse fans more than Philly fans, and that annoyed me a bit.
Me too.
Think it, say it to your friends, but don't say it on national TV. Christ, we take enough hits.
Quote from: SSgt PSN on July 26, 2005, 06:42:04 PM
Quote from: TO is GOD on July 26, 2005, 04:00:46 PM
All I want is to see the guy lighten up a bit. Of course he's human but I think he's too uptight.
:-D :-D
You're kidding right? I don't know McNabb from Adam but if there's one thing I think it's safe for me to say about the guy it's that he is nowhere near uptight.
This thread's a joke. If someone talked ish about you through the national media, I'd love to see how you'd respond everytime a reporter stuck a microphone in your face asking your comment on it for 4 months.
You're missing the point entirely. My point is the comments get to him from day one, but Donovan is able to hide it in press conferences. I still think he's a bit too sensitive, and it has nothing to do with producing on the field in the past. I just hope it doesn't break team chemistry with TO on the sidelines. TO's comments were petty and I would've laughed them off in two seconds and that would've been that. They seem to have gotten the better of Donovan. It won't affect his play on the field, but that wasn't even my point. I'd prefer a happy locker room and a good team morale.
Quote from: Yeti on July 26, 2005, 06:43:06 PM
Quote from: TO is GOD on July 26, 2005, 04:22:21 AM
he said he likes Syracuse fans more than Philly fans, and that annoyed me a bit.
Me too.
Think it, say it to your friends, but don't say it on national TV. Christ, we take enough hits.
Not only that but it was the way he said it. He didn't even take two whole seconds to think about the question. He said Syracuse fans in a split second. He has to understand that the fans love him. I love when players in this town embrace the fans and Donovan isn't one of them. I can't make him change his demeanor, but he is holding an unnecessary grudge. This issue is dead and gone. It's too old to use as motivation anymore. I love Donovan, but jesus move on from this issue with the fans already. It was 10-20 people that booed him. He's gotten booed at the stadium before but that is when he'd play horribly. Most people get trashed when they play bad here. The sad thing is he will never be over it. The same IMO holds true for the TO situation. When you hurt Donovan's feelings that's it. I don't think the TO situation is repairable. Even if TO did apologize I don't think Donovan would truly accept the apology. I don't know for sure, but going by situations in the past he will never move on, and that is a shame. They were roommates last season and were such good friends. It's TO's fault for making the comments but McNabb should try to make things right. If TO tells him to farg off, then McNabb should hold a grudge. If TO wants to hug and make up then their chemistry will be that much better on the field.
This thread defiantely is a joke.
Like Phreak said, McNabb takes an issue, adresses it, and moves on. He's not "too sensitive". I wanna know how you would take it if someone you worked with started talkin to the whole place about you having a tiny pecker. Would it bother you a little bit?
Same thing here. McNabb is taking cheap shots from TO, and McNabb is adressing it and moving on. Just because you love TO doesn't make him right. If There is a problem in camp, it's TO's fault, not McNabb's.
McNabb hasn't moved on. Moving on means getting over it. McNabb still hasn't moved on from the booing thing yet, and doubt he'll ever move on from the TO jabs. He'll pretend like he does, but I'm going to call his bluff on that.
I'm in the far minority here, but I'm OK with that. It happens.
Yeti plays along and TOisGod thinks he's agreeing with him.
lmfao
If it was sarcasm then it was a poor job of it.
That's our Yeti.
Oy vey.
No, McNabb is not "too sensitive". Granted, there may be some things that he finds hard to let go of, but, who doesn't?
I didn't see his reaction to being at the ESPYs because I got bored and turned it off pretty early. I can only imagine how boring it was having to actually be there sitting through it. Who says he has to act like a puppet and have a smile slapped on his face 24hrs a day?
McNabb IS a class act and as for him being uptight.. wtf? He always seems to be having a good time even when he's being booed by fickle Philly fans. He's one of a few players I would love to spend the day with, simply because I know I would have a good time, even if we were just sitting on a bench somewhere.
If anything, maybe he is tired of teammates who have God complexes who cast an ugly shadow over his team, or so-called friends talking crap about him in the media, or not getting the respect he deserves regardless of what he accomplishes, or fans writing hella-long posts on message boards asking if he's too sensitive just because he behaves like a normal human being.
BlueHeart, very well said. :yay
Atta girl. :-D :yay
Wait, can I boo myself for agreeing with a Giants fan? ;)
Quote from: PhillyGirl on July 27, 2005, 08:14:30 AM
Wait, can I boo myself for agreeing with a Giants fan?
Yes. In fact, I think it's required.
Booooooooooooooooo!
Quote from: BlueHeart on July 27, 2005, 05:20:33 AM
Oy vey.
No, McNabb is not "too sensitive". Granted, there may be some things that he finds hard to let go of, but, who doesn't?
I didn't see his reaction to being at the ESPYs because I got bored and turned it off pretty early. I can only imagine how boring it was having to actually be there sitting through it. Who says he has to act like a puppet and have a smile slapped on his face 24hrs a day?
McNabb IS a class act and as for him being uptight.. wtf? He always seems to be having a good time even when he's being booed by fickle Philly fans. He's one of a few players I would love to spend the day with, simply because I know I would have a good time, even if we were just sitting on a bench somewhere.
If anything, maybe he is tired of teammates who have God complexes who cast an ugly shadow over his team, or so-called friends talking crap about him in the media, or not getting the respect he deserves regardless of what he accomplishes, or fans writing hella-long posts on message boards asking if he's too sensitive just because he behaves like a normal human being.
I knew I loved you for a reason. :bow
Keep making posts like that and one would be close to assuming that you're ready to jump over to the good side.
Is there a player in the NFL who has had to deal with more undeserved BS? McNabb deserves criticism for poor performances just like any other player does, but he is one of the class acts in the NFL and gets a lot of shtein thrown his way for no reason.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on July 27, 2005, 08:49:36 AM
I knew I loved you for a reason. :bow
Keep making posts like that and one would be close to assuming that you're ready to jump over to the good side.
There shall be no jumping. (http://67.18.37.14/71/116/emo/nonono.gif)
But I will defend a player I respect regardless of what disgusting team he plays for.
Oh- and I love you too, boo. :-* :-D
Ewwww :puke
you know, i just thought of something. if freddie at any point told mcnabb of CF, he could possibly be reading this thread. mr. sensitivity could be sitting at home crying over this thread.
people, we have to think before we post.
Like McNabb ever listened to Freddie.
i am ending this discussion.
yes, virginia, mcnabb is too sensitive. there. done.
You don't get to end the discussion.
Rubber baby buggy bumpers. :yay
purplemonkeydishwasher
Yep.
Quote from: Wingspan on July 27, 2005, 03:13:54 PM
purplemonkeydishwasher
Wow. I have a snappy retort for that line but someone might consider it racist so I'll keep it to myself.
Les Bowen on DNL said some of the points I made about McNabb and TO. I still think McNabb is a little too sensitive, whether anyone else agrees or not. My opinion won't change. Bowen said he talked to TO and TO said he really wants to patch things up with Donovan and talked to him about it, and Donovan said they were cool but TO got the impression and could tell he just said it, but didn't really mean it. I know McNabb will never get over those comments unless they have a real hour-long heart to heart sit down.
Quote from: TO is GOD on July 27, 2005, 06:46:03 PM
TO said he really wants to patch things up with Donovan and talked to him about it, and Donovan said they were cool but TO got the impression and could tell he just said it, but didn't really mean it.
And, DONOVAN is too sensitive? TO sounds like a jilted ex-girlfriend..."He said he's ok with me, but I can tell he doesn't really mean it." This guy is unbelievably insecure and high-maintenance for a man.
Hey TO, here's a hint...STOP SAYING SMART-ASS REMARKS TO THE MEDIA ABOUT DONOVAN, and he will forgive you by MNF at Atlanta. It's really that simple.
Jesus, just strap it on, catch passes and shut your hole.
Don't TO and Donovan live in the same neighborhood? I feel the number of plaster lawn borros and yard gnomes stolen in that area are soon to be on the rise.
Ha! Lawn Borros.
Quote from: jerome99RIP on July 27, 2005, 03:38:28 PM
Quote from: Wingspan on July 27, 2005, 03:13:54 PM
purplemonkeydishwasher
Wow. I have a snappy retort for that line but someone might consider it racist so I'll keep it to myself.
:-D :paranoid :-[
Quote from: sallad selgae on July 28, 2005, 08:52:58 AM
Don't TO and Donovan live in the same neighborhood? I feel the number of plaster lawn borros and yard gnomes stolen in that area are soon to be on the rise.
They are neighbors.
So that was TO's hedge that got molded in the shape of McNabb? No wonder TO has a problem with him.
Quote from: MadMarchHare on July 28, 2005, 09:33:09 AM
So that was TO's hedge that got molded in the shape of McNabb? No wonder TO has a problem with him.
LOL...that commercial was a while ago. Before TO moved in. ;)
I do think McNabb is too sensitive. No BS, no joking.
Now, let me hedge that statement by saying that he's a very solid character guy and great leader. I don't want to imply that he's a bad guy or any less of a teammate. I'm just being honest.
I don't make my comments in regard to the TO situation. I think Donovan has been fine in regard to his dealing with Owens and his comments/antics. I'm looking more at his past.
Donovan does not take criticism well. I remember watching a preseason game vs the Ravens in 2002. Troy Aikman said that Donovan wasn't an accurate passer. And Troy was right. Donovan is not accurate. I'm not talking about completion percentage, I'm talking about having rcvrs catch the ball consistently at their ankles or a foot behind them.
Donovan got very defensive about these comments and to this day detests when anyone questions his accuracy. I don't know why. Every player has a weakness. Troy Aikman was a statue. Brett Favre forces the ball and throws too many picks. Steve McNair can't stay healthy. Donovan isn't accurate. No player is perfect. Accept your problems and try to improve them.
Remember last year when people talked about added pressure being on Donovan? He pointed to his back and made some comment about how there wasn't anymore room or that all the pressure was already there. I can't remember how he phrased it, but it was an odd comment. He didn't have his normal smile. It came across like most people doubted him and he was used to everyone being against him. Maybe that's how he feels. I think Donovan is one of the most popular, loved players around. My friends that aren't Eagles fans love him. Sure he has some tough critics in the Philly media, but not to the extent he thinks he does (apparently).
The whole SB debacle. Multiple teammates come out and talk about him being winded. Then, magically, they all retract and Donovan says he was fine. I haven't seen a coverup like that since 11/23/63. I'm a hell of a lot more comfortable with him being under the weather and getting winded than thinking we took our time to be safe.
Finally, there is the whole Draft Day incident. Every goddamn announcer/interviewer brings up the actions of 30 people as though it was how the whole city felt. That drives me nuts. I give Donovan a bit of a pass on this one because he constantly has to answer those questions. However...I do wish Donovan used it more for motivation. Tom Brady says that every offseason he gets nervous. He thinks somehow his job is in jeopardy because he's the former 6th Rd pick. He uses that to motivate him to get better. And Tom has gone from just a clutch guy who knew how to win to being a great QB. He could literally run any system at this point and do a hell of a job. Donovan seems to let his Draft Day booing eat at him more than motivate him. I'm going strictly off the way I read his comments during various interviews. I could be wrong, but I sense some lingering bitterness.
I love having Donovan McNabb play QB for us. He has a chance to have a HOF career. He's a winner and a leader. And he's a hell of a guy. But I have to call it the way I see it.
How can ANYONE call this guy sensitive, I don't get it. He's taken more shtein than MOST Players in the NFL and has always handled it with total class. The best example of this was the whole Rush Limbaugh thing. NO more needs to be said after seeing the amazing way he handled that.
ANd perhaps if the media didn't bring up the booing at the draft or show it on TV constantly when talking about him, he'd have been a little closer to forgetting about it.
I'll bet he's crying right now.
Crying in a big bowl of money. Tears of gold. Poor McNabb.
If I had a friend who cried tears of gold I would pound on them relentlessly when we needed beer or bacon. Then I'd make him go to the store and by the beer for being such a crybaby. That'd be sweet.
Quote from: rjs246 on July 28, 2005, 04:10:53 PM
If I had a friend who cried tears of gold I would pound on them relentlessly when we needed beer or bacon. Then I'd make him go to the store and by the beer for being such a crybaby. That'd be sweet.
I wish I had a friend that cried bacon. I bet it would hurt when the bacon came out, ideally causing him to cry more. It would be like a non-stop bacon factory. However, he'd better be crying bacon that's ready to eat because if it was raw bacon I'd kill him for trying to make me cook.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on July 28, 2005, 03:16:44 PM
ANd perhaps if the media didn't bring up the booing at the draft or show it on TV constantly when talking about him, he'd have been a little closer to forgetting about it.
Good point. And not just in those two areas.
We all know "journalists" are relentless in their pounding on the same damn subject over and over and over and... well, you get the point.
I know if I get asked the same question more than twice, I have a tendency to respond in less than civil tones. Including questions of my own: "How many f'ing times do I have to answer the same f'ing question?? Am I speaking to Chinese? Or are you too stupid to retain the answer the first 10 times I give it??"... thereabouts.
Goddammit, stop bringing this thread back to the original point. Does anyone really still want to talk about this?
Maybe. I need to hear more insightful opinions. Please, everyone... continue.
there's a very simple way thats scientifically proven...
at training camp, someone needs to kick him in the balls and then throw a cup of acid on his face.
if he shows any pain whatsoever, there you go, too sensitive
Quote from: rjs246 on July 28, 2005, 06:29:22 PM
Does anyone really still want to talk about this?
Yes, the original points were so interesting and thought provoking
I dunno, Wingspan, that didn't work out too well the last time....
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Quote from: goeagles99 on July 28, 2005, 03:13:32 PM
I do think McNabb is too sensitive. No BS, no joking. blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah nd a leader. And he's a hell of a guy. But I have to call it the way I see it.
i could have sworn someone called g-cobb last night and basically read this post on the air.
Quote from: goeagles99 on July 28, 2005, 03:13:32 PM
I do think McNabb is too sensitive. No BS, no joking.
Now, let me hedge that statement by saying that he's a very solid character guy and great leader. I don't want to imply that he's a bad guy or any less of a teammate. I'm just being honest.
I don't make my comments in regard to the TO situation. I think Donovan has been fine in regard to his dealing with Owens and his comments/antics. I'm looking more at his past.
Donovan does not take criticism well. I remember watching a preseason game vs the Ravens in 2002. Troy Aikman said that Donovan wasn't an accurate passer. And Troy was right. Donovan is not accurate. I'm not talking about completion percentage, I'm talking about having rcvrs catch the ball consistently at their ankles or a foot behind them.
Donovan got very defensive about these comments and to this day detests when anyone questions his accuracy. I don't know why. Every player has a weakness. Troy Aikman was a statue. Brett Favre forces the ball and throws too many picks. Steve McNair can't stay healthy. Donovan isn't accurate. No player is perfect. Accept your problems and try to improve them.
Remember last year when people talked about added pressure being on Donovan? He pointed to his back and made some comment about how there wasn't anymore room or that all the pressure was already there. I can't remember how he phrased it, but it was an odd comment. He didn't have his normal smile. It came across like most people doubted him and he was used to everyone being against him. Maybe that's how he feels. I think Donovan is one of the most popular, loved players around. My friends that aren't Eagles fans love him. Sure he has some tough critics in the Philly media, but not to the extent he thinks he does (apparently).
The whole SB debacle. Multiple teammates come out and talk about him being winded. Then, magically, they all retract and Donovan says he was fine. I haven't seen a coverup like that since 11/23/63. I'm a hell of a lot more comfortable with him being under the weather and getting winded than thinking we took our time to be safe.
Finally, there is the whole Draft Day incident. Every goddamn announcer/interviewer brings up the actions of 30 people as though it was how the whole city felt. That drives me nuts. I give Donovan a bit of a pass on this one because he constantly has to answer those questions. However...I do wish Donovan used it more for motivation. Tom Brady says that every offseason he gets nervous. He thinks somehow his job is in jeopardy because he's the former 6th Rd pick. He uses that to motivate him to get better. And Tom has gone from just a clutch guy who knew how to win to being a great QB. He could literally run any system at this point and do a hell of a job. Donovan seems to let his Draft Day booing eat at him more than motivate him. I'm going strictly off the way I read his comments during various interviews. I could be wrong, but I sense some lingering bitterness.
I love having Donovan McNabb play QB for us. He has a chance to have a HOF career. He's a winner and a leader. And he's a hell of a guy. But I have to call it the way I see it.
Very well put. I'm not saying I don't want McNabb here either. I love McNabb. He's my favorite QB ever. He's my top 5 favorite Eagles ever. I wouldn't want ANYONE else on my team, but I do agree with you on the inaccurate thing too. I did forget about that. He is very defensive about that. It's not a BAD thing, but it is something I believe.
For some reason, this thread comes up every time I log in at work. I thought the new GQ article made it worth a bump.
Quote from: goeagles99 on July 28, 2005, 03:13:32 PM
Every player has a weakness. Troy Aikman was a statue. Brett Favre forces the ball and throws too many picks. Steve McNair can't stay healthy. Donovan isn't accurate. No player is perfect. Accept your problems and try to improve them.
I laughed.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on July 28, 2005, 03:16:44 PM
How can ANYONE call this guy sensitive, I don't get it. He's taken more shtein than MOST Players in the NFL and has always handled it with total class. The best example of this was the whole Rush Limbaugh thing. NO more needs to be said after seeing the amazing way he handled that.
ANd perhaps if the media didn't bring up the booing at the draft or show it on TV constantly when talking about him, he'd have been a little closer to forgetting about it.
ummmm
LULz
donovan lovers are looking silly today
been looking silly since the spring 2004 comedy tour
one thing is for sure, mcnabb never cried like owens did.
not in public
donovan had a very calculated, phony public persona. he never let himself go except for the attempted funny side comments which showed his true personality of being the second most unfunny person on the planet next to munson.
not that i particularly how someone acts in public, im not out to worship athletes, but his motives publicly had a direct translation to his on the field performance and how he carried himself and how it effected the team.
Quote from: KDS on August 24, 2010, 05:09:16 PM
not in public
donovan had a very calculated, phony public persona. he never let himself go except for the attempted funny side comments which showed his true personality of being the second most unfunny person on the planet next to munson.
not that i particularly how someone acts in public, im not out to worship athletes, but his motives publicly had a direct translation to his on the field performance and how he carried himself and how it effected the team.
Cock goblin.
Quote from: KDS on August 24, 2010, 05:09:16 PM
not that i particularly how someone acts in public, im not out to worship athletes, but his
you know if cared about your grammar as much as you care about baiting munson you may actually make it as a journalist.
just sayin'
you forgot a 'you' in there....
Bob Ford (http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/eagles/20100825_Bob_Ford__McNabb_plays_blame_game_best.html)
QuoteMcNabb said some things in the article that were dumb. He said some things that were insulting. And he said some things that were downright bonkers. This is not a particular surprise. McNabb was good for any of the three on a given day during his time as quarterback of the Eagles.
But he's not dumb, just ask IGY.
i could write a book on the dumb things youve said....but i dont think youre unintelligent
smart people say and do dumb shtein everyday
mcnabb has inumerable personality faults but hes clearly not stupid
He has something in him masquerading as stupid, then.
Anyway, a few more solid hits to the head and the debate is over.
Per R Diddy
http://www.csnphilly.com/08/25/10/bDidingers-Mailbagb-McNabb-Still-Bafflin/landing_eagles.html?blockID=297612&feedID=704 (http://www.csnphilly.com/08/25/10/bDidingers-Mailbagb-McNabb-Still-Bafflin/landing_eagles.html?blockID=297612&feedID=704)
farging vulture
Can we forget about this guy until the first taterskins Birds matchup? The big benefit of him being gone is that we finally don't have to get wrapped up in his his incessant victimhood rap anymore. Let DC have that for a few years... I'm sure his passive aggressive bitching will sound even sweeter when his numbers start to tumble in the twilight of his career.
haha ray eats him up
diddy doesnt kill anyone either so for him to go hard really means something
thats what i mean, Ray never takes a dagger out, yet seems to go right for the phoney heart that Mcnabb puts out there in every interview
That is exactly what I thought when I read it. At least not like that.
lol @ and blown out of proportion
i cant believe this guy has fans
I don't even dislike McNabb all that much as a person. I disliked his accuracy more than anything. But I'm going to root against him religiously this season. Simply because I hate the taterskins and those "McNabb is still a top 5 QB" morons can shut the farg up about him.
Then in 2011 he'll go to Minnesota and receive plays from Childress via his Xbox Live headset.
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_5_CMp7GU1wY/RquJi7Ih3kI/AAAAAAAAANE/IQ-D2HC0BNg/s400/donovan_mcnabb_5.jpg)
Classic McNabb (http://espn.go.com/blog/nfceast/post/_/id/17317/mcnabb-lightens-mood-at-taterskins-park)
QuoteDonovan McNabb had some fun at Albert Haynesworth's expense while discussing his sprained ankle with reporters Wednesday. The taterskins quarterback mimicked Haynesworth's rant from this past Saturday night when he used air quotes to emphasize that coach Mike Shanahan said he had "headaches." Here's what McNabb said about his own injury:
"They told me it was just a 'sprain,'" said McNabb, slowing down to emphasize the word while holding fingers in the air to simulate quotation marks.
I think it's a healthy thing for this locker room that this team's leader on the field isn't taking Haynesworth too seriously. You guys agree?
nothing breeds team unity like a quarterback openly mocking the injury status of one of his defensive teammates.
I loved how he paused for laughter, no one laughed, so he had to laugh at his own joke. When he started chuckling at his own cleverness, one reporter gave him a courtesy laugh.
Quote from: smeags on August 26, 2010, 09:11:10 AM
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_5_CMp7GU1wY/RquJi7Ih3kI/AAAAAAAAANE/IQ-D2HC0BNg/s400/donovan_mcnabb_5.jpg)
Creepy.
(http://cdn.ihatethemedia.com/wp-content/uploads/bush-miss-me-yet.jpg)
^ :-D
Quote from: paco on August 26, 2010, 09:36:59 AM
I loved how he paused for laughter, no one laughed, so he had to laugh at his own joke. When he started chuckling at his own cleverness, one reporter gave him a courtesy laugh.
yeah i saw that on the news last night and became squeamish
its sickening and uncomfortable....it amazing how he can infuriate you and make you feel sorry for him all at the same time
its truly amazing how disastrously unfunny he is
like its a talent for someone to continually try so hard but miserably fail every time
its probably the only thing hes good at, really
Quote from: KDS on August 26, 2010, 12:24:42 PM
its probably the only thing hes good at, really
Hey now... He also is good at...
-throwing the ball really hard
-not throwing interceptions
-purging his lunch mid-huddle
-running away and extending plays (used to be at least)
-putting on weight
-being a passive aggressive douchebag
you forgetting about killing worms and taking a job away from a white qb (according to the other cf)
Every fantasy ranking I've seen has Kolb rated ahead of McNabb.
Quote from: shorebird on August 26, 2010, 11:35:29 PM
Every fantasy ranking I've seen has Kolb rated ahead of McNabb.
That has pretty much no bearing at all on what the fantasy rankers think of McNabb or Kolb as NFL quarterbacks. Kolb has Shady, Pimp, Maclin, Celek and Avant. McNabb has Hot Pants Cooley.
Unless Kolb turns out to be totally useless, he's going to put up fairly good fantasy numbers. Hell, once upon a time Culpepper and Bulger were among the top fantasy qb's but it turned out that neither was really competent at their position, they just had exceptional skill players to throw to.
If McNabb is still an Eagle and Kolb is the starting qb for the Skins, McNabb would be rated well ahead of Kolb.
mine too. but in my fantasy mcnabb is dying slowly via Reid giving him a Cleveland steamer.
http://footballoutsiders.com/walkthrough/2010/walkthrough-mcnabb-deniers
QuoteGonzalez mentioned a new third group, one that wants everyone to stop dwelling on McNabb and focus on the present. He called them the MoveOn(fromMcNabb).org contingent
Count me in!
youre crazy....i wanna see the dallas skins game tomorrow almost as much as the eagles packers
this whole year is about what mcnabb does....good or bad
You know I'm full of shtein. Of course I'll be watching the skins game with as much interest as the birds game. McNabb, new team, Cowboys, oh yeah.
That FO article is undeniably factual, but still misses the point. No one in Philly, particularly before 2008, cared about anything but a championship, and reasonably so. McNabb certainly wasn't the biggest problem preventing that (Reid is hands down); but he certainly contributed. And the one argument in there that I disagree with is that McNabb is this dignified luminary. He's a bitch, and he can't stand above criticism, deserved or otherwise.
And he might very well get killed behind that joke of a line in DC. But at least Shanny will give him some farging run support, unlike the fatman.
Well said. Fatty was most of the problem. All DMac needed was one SB win and the guy would have been god. shtein, if he had lead the birds down field and beat the Cardinals, three playoff wins on the road would have helped cement a positive legacy. The two final games at Dallas last year helped add fuel to all the negatives.
All McNabb apologists please check in. Then go farg yourselves.
Caption please:
(http://static.nfl.com/static/content/public/image/getty/2010/09000d5d81c271c7_gallery_600.jpg)
Mommy
Andy...come back Andy...Andy!....I'm sorry! I'm sorry Andy! Come back!
"That bench over there is looking pretty danggone comfy right about now."
Quote from: FastFreddie on November 16, 2010, 09:35:07 AM
(http://static.nfl.com/static/content/public/image/getty/2010/09000d5d81c271c7_gallery_600.jpg)
Note to self: More pregame lube next time.
Damn, Patterson got me again. Might as well air guitar...
Here we see Donovan McNabb calling to the sidelines for stirrups and a vaginal exam to check for Michael Vick herpes.
Quote from: FastFreddie on November 16, 2010, 09:35:07 AM
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QuoteOn the day he received a contract extension, Donovan McNabb threw three interceptions. "At some point in the year, you kind of have a gut check. This would probably be defined as one," McNabb said.
Oh, not two weeks ago when you were benched for Rex Grossman? How about 7 months ago when the team for which you'd been the best QB in history traded you within the division? No gut check there either?
he needs to check and see if he has a gut....my guess is that he doesnt
QuoteMcNabb on ESPN 980, on T.O's tweet last night: "It's funny ... what are they, 2-7? I mean, Carson makes more than I do, doesn't he?''
classic mcnabb....instead of confronting TO...he brings down an innocent bystander to try and make himself look less awful
which is also ironic since he once told TO to keep his name out of his mouth
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 16, 2010, 12:32:13 PM
he needs to check and see if he has a gut....my guess is that he doesnt
Speaking of which, anyone notice that McNabb looked like he dropped about 20 pounds in the last couple of weeks? Maybe because Shanahan knows he's out of shape and they put him on a program?
I think it's just that burgundy is slimming.
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 16, 2010, 12:37:31 PM
classic mcnabb....instead of confronting TO...he brings down an innocent bystander to try and make himself look less awful
which is also ironic since he once told TO to keep his name out of his mouth
TO has no room to talk after the way I have watched him alligator arm at least two potential catches in the past two weeks. I am not sticking up for McNabb, but TO has no reason to get involved in that.
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on November 16, 2010, 03:45:53 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 16, 2010, 12:37:31 PM
classic mcnabb....instead of confronting TO...he brings down an innocent bystander to try and make himself look less awful
which is also ironic since he once told TO to keep his name out of his mouth
TO has no room to talk after the way I have watched him alligator arm at least two potential catches in the past two weeks. I am not sticking up for McNabb, but TO has no reason to get involved in that.
i have no problem with what TO said and id have no problem with the bedwetter going back after TO...but the loser didnt go back at TO....he instead shtein on carson palmer
Carson Palmer should deck that puss.
Quote from: FastFreddie on November 16, 2010, 02:36:54 PM
I think it's just that burgundy is slimming.
I don't know about that. I used to drink a bottle a night and I put on weight.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=6526881
B-Hop's at it again.
Too funny.
Hopkins is nothing but a low-life racist. Boxing is dead and he is trying to gain some publicity. In all honesty anyone but a diehard boxing fan not from Philly responds to his name by saying "Bernard Who?" WWE is bigger and more mainstream. MMA passed boxing in terms of credibility 10 years ago. Hopkins has zero relevance outside of Philly, and his only relevance here is in bashing McNabb. Would anyone honestly give a shtein what he says if it had anything to do with boxing, morals or economics? I wonder, does Hopkins raise his children in the projects in order for them to retain their "blackness" or does he aspire for them to be assimilated into white society?
This is the by far the most sense you've ever made.
I am feeling awfully good about my self now.
Quote from: lurking wierdo on May 11, 2011, 04:45:11 PM
Hopkins is nothing but a low-life racist. Boxing is dead and he is trying to gain some publicity. In all honesty anyone but a diehard boxing fan not from Philly responds to his name by saying "Bernard Who?" WWE is bigger and more mainstream. MMA passed boxing in terms of credibility 10 years ago. Hopkins has zero relevance outside of Philly, and his only relevance here is in bashing McNabb. Would anyone honestly give a shtein what he says if it had anything to do with boxing, morals or economics? I wonder, does Hopkins raise his children in the projects in order for them to retain their "blackness" or does he aspire for them to be assimilated into white society?
Eh. I find it hilarious that Hopkins won't let it go. I hope he keeps on ripping McNabb. It's more entertaining than watching either of them perform as an athlete anymore.
Hopkins is a dolt. Let it go, Mr Washed Up Boxer.
Ironic considering Hopkins won the world championship in his sport roughly ninety gazillion times and McNabb, well, didn't and never will.
Good for him. Winning a championship in watered down boxing means a whole lot. He is a dumbfarg who needs to let it go. The only way that hack can stay in the news is to bring up McNabb. Otherwise he'd be irrelevant.
Can't we just agree that they're both irrelevant?
We're all irrelevant.
Zen.
Quote from: Rome on May 11, 2011, 08:46:32 PM
Ironic considering Hopkins won the world championship in his sport roughly ninety gazillion times and McNabb, well, didn't and never will.
Then Hopkins is roughly equivilant to Tony Graziani.
Hopkins is a racist, but you cannot take anything away from his titles and work ethic. Next weekend he will attempt to be the oldest world champ ever and not against a cupcake, Pascal is a solid good champ.
its crazy and super ironic how our two resident racists both got the black signal to fly in here and pounce on bhop for being a racist
please now explain how he is one.....i really wanna hear this as the explanantion should be pure MA gold
I think it's obvious that he hates Mexicans. He never talks about them and from what I heard, doesn't employ any to maintain his property.
On a related note, one of my buddies at work is Mexican and he's out of town for 2 months, so he hired a couple white dudes to do the yard work while he's gone.
You really don't think the guy is a racist? If a white guy said these comments, your pasty ass would be all over it. I love Hopkins the athlete, Hopkins the person is different, he is a convicted felon and spews nonsense and racist comments.
QuoteHopkins has a history of making controversial remarks that are racially insensitive. Before his bout with Calzaghe, Hopkins stated that he would "never let a white boy" beat him.[20] Hopkins was ultimately outpointed by Calzaghe, losing the fight by decision.
In late 2010, Hopkins suggested that Filipino boxer Manny Pacquiao could not beat an African-American fighter. "Floyd Mayweather would beat Manny Pacquiao because the styles that African-American fighters -- and I mean, black fighters from the streets or the inner cities -- would be successful," said Hopkins. "I think Floyd Mayweather would pot-shot Pacquiao and bust him up in between the four-to-five punches that Pacquiao throws and then set him up later on down the line...Maybe I'm biased because I'm black, but I think that this is what is said at people's homes and around the dinner table among black boxing fans and fighters."[21]
On May 11, 2011, Hopkins questioned Washington taterskins quarterback Donovan McNabb's racial credentials in a Philadelphia Daily News online article, saying in part, "He's got a suntan. That's all... McNabb is the guy in the house, while everybody else is on the field."[22]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernard_Hopkins (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernard_Hopkins)
The fact that you are questioning being a racist are laughable. :-D see I'm laughing about it.
none of that is remotely racist...the mcnabb stuff is ignorant as shtein in the same vein as what jalen rose said about duke basketball players and the pacquio stuff is plain wrong but none of it is racist
pretty sure you dont know what racism is which is super ironic
You were born stupid, IGY, and you'll die stupid. Hopefully it will involve a gun.
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 12, 2011, 11:12:07 AM
none of that is remotely racist...the mcnabb stuff is ignorant as shtein in the same vein as what jalen rose said about duke basketball players and the pacquio stuff is plain wrong but none of it is racist
pretty sure you dont know what racism is which is super ironic
Wow, thats all i can say about that idiotic statement.
If a white person isn't saying something ignorant or using a pejorative term about a different race it isn't racist. Duh.
the fact that i would never draft a white linebacker does not make me racist against white people
i understand you are from the south but you are smarter than this...dont fall into the abyss with people like lw and phillymic
Quote from: rjs246 on May 12, 2011, 11:59:45 AM
If a white person isn't saying something ignorant or using a pejorative term about a different race it isn't racist. Duh.
Oh, I see.
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 12, 2011, 12:01:53 PM
the fact that i would never draft a white linebacker does not make me racist against white people
i understand you are from the south but you are smarter than this...dont fall into the abyss with people like lw and phillymic
My abyss is pretty cool man, You should see the 2nd garage/workshop i put on it. It got heated floors, so nice for the kkk meetings in the winter.
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 12, 2011, 12:01:53 PM
the fact that i would never draft a white linebacker does not make me racist against white people
i understand you are from the south but you are smarter than this...dont fall into the abyss with people like lw and phillymic
If someone feels te same way about a black QB, are they racist?
Quote from: phillymic2000 on May 12, 2011, 12:05:14 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 12, 2011, 12:01:53 PM
the fact that i would never draft a white linebacker does not make me racist against white people
i understand you are from the south but you are smarter than this...dont fall into the abyss with people like lw and phillymic
My abyss is pretty cool man, You should see the 2nd garage/workshop i put on it. It got heated floors, so nice for the kkk meetings in the winter.
I bet all the women like it too.....you know, being barefoot and pregnant and all.
Racism = white people not yielding in deference to and/or adopting the culture and verbiage of superior race of black people
That's it. That's the list.
Quote from: lurking wierdo on May 12, 2011, 12:51:25 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 12, 2011, 12:01:53 PM
the fact that i would never draft a white linebacker does not make me racist against white people
i understand you are from the south but you are smarter than this...dont fall into the abyss with people like lw and phillymic
If someone feels te same way about a black QB, are they racist?
generally yes because you believe you are intellectually superior to blacks in all phases of life...for example you would draft a black to play in the mail room of a law firm but not to play the attorney position
lol
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 12, 2011, 01:06:05 PM
Quote from: lurking wierdo on May 12, 2011, 12:51:25 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 12, 2011, 12:01:53 PM
the fact that i would never draft a white linebacker does not make me racist against white people
i understand you are from the south but you are smarter than this...dont fall into the abyss with people like lw and phillymic
If someone feels te same way about a black QB, are they racist?
generally yes because you believe you are intellectually superior to blacks in all phases of life...for example you would draft a black to play in the mail room of a law firm but not to play the attorney position
I would hope you are not referring to me when you say "you". Because, though I firmly believe that most stereotypes probably have a small bit of truth, I also do hire and fire people, and certainly, it's all about the individual.
yeah and im moving to arkansas this summer
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 12, 2011, 01:30:49 PM
yeah and im moving to arkansas this summer
You never know! I moved to South Carolina in February.
Stereotypes exist because there is some truth to them. Although, the stereotype about blacks and their intelligence is 400 years old. Of course blacks weren't as intelligent as white people in the 1700's.....they weren't given access to the same education that was afforded to whites and it's only been during the last 60 years that they were allowed to attend the same schools as whites and receive an equal education.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on May 12, 2011, 01:38:14 PM
Stereotypes exist because there is some truth to them. Although, the stereotype about blacks and their intelligence is 400 years old. Of course blacks weren't as intelligent as white people in the 1700's.....they weren't given access to the same education that was afforded to whites and it's only been during the last 60 years that they were allowed to attend the same schools as whites and receive an equal education.
I agree with all of this, especially the stereotype of all Marines being latent homosexuals.
Donovan McNabb: simply too awesome to wear a wristband with plays on it (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/05/12/report-mcnabb-refused-to-wear-a-wristband-with-plays/)
You are all stupendously boring people.
Christ - arguing about race. Still.
farg all of you to hell.
Quote from: FastFreddie on May 12, 2011, 03:14:37 PM
Donovan McNabb: simply too awesome to wear a wristband with plays on it (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/05/12/report-mcnabb-refused-to-wear-a-wristband-with-plays/)
waiting until J defends this....
Quote from: Rome on May 12, 2011, 03:15:47 PM
You are all stupendously boring people.
Christ - arguing about race. Still.
farg all of you to hell.
Welcome to :CF (http://www.funnyism.com/i/demotivational/15687)
Quote from: MDS on May 12, 2011, 03:18:40 PM
Quote from: FastFreddie on May 12, 2011, 03:14:37 PM
Donovan McNabb: simply too awesome to wear a wristband with plays on it (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/05/12/report-mcnabb-refused-to-wear-a-wristband-with-plays/)
waiting until J defends this....
I don't believe it and quite frankly don't care about it. It's about as dumb as this garbage that Hopkins has been spewing.
(http://prosportsblogging.com/psb/uploads/2010/12/mcnabb-air-guitar.gif)
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Awesome.
:-D
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on May 12, 2011, 09:47:17 PM
Quote from: MDS on May 12, 2011, 03:18:40 PM
Quote from: FastFreddie on May 12, 2011, 03:14:37 PM
Donovan McNabb: simply too awesome to wear a wristband with plays on it (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/05/12/report-mcnabb-refused-to-wear-a-wristband-with-plays/)
waiting until J defends this....
I don't believe it
wow
hes in total denial and its just sad at this point
i honestly feel bad for j. his mind is so corrupted by his love for donovan.
I believe he probably refused to wear one but not because of the reasons supposedly given by the sources of looking dumb.
You can't just agree he's an idiot for refusing to wear one regardless of the reason?
it really is amazing how far and fast mcnabb has fallen on all levels of football.
Quote from: FastFreddie on May 13, 2011, 08:53:58 AM
You can't just agree he's an idiot for refusing to wear one regardless of the reason?
exactly
also this is the guy that had a stroke because rush limbough is a big fat idiot and stopped playing football a certain way because of how he thought people looked at him so really is it so hard to believe that he would refuse to wear the wrist belt because it would make him look in a possible negative light
I wonder if all of this has made McNabb think differently about Philly. He's always had a bug up his ass and never really seemed to embrace the city...but now that he's seen nothing but failure outside of the city, does he look back on it more fondly? Has to be a slap of reality that the Eagles had just as much success without him.
I suppose he might if you define success as not winning a SB. In which case, the Eagles have enjoyed the same level of success with every QB over the last 45 years.
Well, that's what I mean. Good, but not good enough. Playoff good...not SB-winning good; exactly like his time here.
There is no way the wristband story is accurate.
I mean, no one could be that bitchmade and still make it for ten years in the NFL.
Quote from: Zanshin on May 13, 2011, 09:48:35 AM
Well, that's what I mean. Good, but not good enough. Playoff good...not SB-winning good; exactly like his time here.
he made a superbowl so in his mind hes still the winner...shtein the eagles havent won a playoff game without him
He also almost single-handedly lost that Superbowl.
he did single handedly lose it but i thought you were wondering how mcnabb compares philly with and without him...you said its the same...playoff good but not good enough...im saying mcnabb would say his time was way better...four nfc champs and a superbowl appearance
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 13, 2011, 10:58:09 AM
Quote from: Zanshin on May 13, 2011, 09:48:35 AM
Well, that's what I mean. Good, but not good enough. Playoff good...not SB-winning good; exactly like his time here.
he made a superbowl so in his mind hes still the winner...shtein the eagles havent won a playoff game without him
Yes, in the one season they played without him, they did not win a playoff game. Correct!
yeah mcnabb definitely wouldnt think that way because hes never salty doent have a long memory and absolutely doesnt hold grudges
all it takes is a quick look at that air guitar video and all the love i've ever had for the guy goes right out the window. that was the exact moment i started disliking him.
i still love vick's reaction in the background. he may not have seen him before he put his head down and started shaking it, but i like to pretend that he did.
for a hot second during that episode my five hate turned to pity
Quote from: phattymatty on May 13, 2011, 11:40:08 AM
all it takes is a quick look at that air guitar video and all the love i've ever had for the guy goes right out the window. that was the exact moment i started disliking him.
This.
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 13, 2011, 10:58:09 AM
Quote from: Zanshin on May 13, 2011, 09:48:35 AM
Well, that's what I mean. Good, but not good enough. Playoff good...not SB-winning good; exactly like his time here.
he made a superbowl so in his mind hes still the winner...shtein the eagles havent won a playoff game without him
Jeff Garcia says Hi.
Quote from: Rome on May 13, 2011, 12:20:35 PM
Quote from: phattymatty on May 13, 2011, 11:40:08 AM
all it takes is a quick look at that air guitar video and all the love i've ever had for the guy goes right out the window. that was the exact moment i started disliking him.
This.
Made me wanna' puke.
even girls are calling him a Hoyda now.
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/commentary/news/story?id=6566572 (http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/commentary/news/story?id=6566572)
At some point no matter what the circumstance you need to have some pride in yourself.
For a guy who deliusionally thinks he's a comedian on and off the field, you would think he would have some quick wit about him to at least alter the situation and make those who abuse him eat their words.
At least to me it's not still showing class at this point, it's being that Hoyda little kid with no friends continuously shoved in a locker who can't ever stick up for himself. It's so sad-especially when women journalists are now calling you out.
Jemele Hill weighs in on race? I don't believe it.
And what is McNabb going to say? Hopkins us a lunatic but he's right about him being s mama's boy even if his racial taunts are straight out of the Al Sharpton handbook.
hopkins isnt a lunatic...like me he spotted mcabb for what he is years and years ago....when everyone else was still cupping his balls in their moufs...hopkins is over the top sometimes but he knows whats up
No you're right, like you he's just... he's fine. No issues there.
well i may have issues but hating the bedwetter is way at the bottom of the list
100% truth.
McNabb's douchebaggery and failure to win the big one should have nothing to do with race whatsoever, but he brought all this upon himself with the "black on black crime" garbage from the TO mess.
McNabb worked out with Eagles players in Marlton, NJ today. Nooooooooooooooooo
Apparently TO was the only player the Eagles ever spent money on during McNabb's tenure. The dude is such a farging joke it's unbelievable. Bringing up how Celek was underutilizied and such. Enjoy Minnesota you farger.
QuoteDonovan McNabb has watched all of the Philadelphia Eagles' personnel moves with interest. Talking to CBSSports.com, McNabb sounded like he wished the Eagles had been this aggressive when he was still their quarterback.
"I was there for 11 years, and the biggest thing we brought in was T.O.," McNabb told CBSSports.com. "Now they're getting the so-called 'Dream Team.' It's amazing, but I look back on my career and what they're doing now ... that's great, that's excellent. But you're seeing another side. You're seeing Andy (Reid) taking that chance. It's not just taking that chance on one guy. They're taking a chance on a bunch of guys."
Vikings quarterback Donovan McNabb during the team's practice on Tuesday in Mankato, Minn. (AP Photo)
However, McNabb said the array of stars the Eagles have collected could lead to problems.
"You've got to worry about DeSean (Jackson)," said McNabb, alluding to the Eagles' wide receiver that has been a contract holdout. "When he comes back are you going to give DeSean the ball or throw it to (Jeremy) Maclin? Remember, you have to give LeSean McCoy the ball, too. And then at the end you still have to pay Mike Vick. They have more problems than people are looking at."
besides wilbon and J does anyone like this guy anymore?
Thats jealousy and sour grapes. He should hush his mouth and worry about the Vikes and pimping Chris Kluwe's band.
Mamas Boy flag
get killed, icehole.
shut UP already 5. Seriously. JFC
The best part of his whole little bitch session is he's bringing up chemistry problems from an offensive standpoint. Hey Donnie, we have the same skills players last year as we do this year (excluding the Brown signing), and it wasn't a problem last year, and sure as hell won't be a problem this year. No one complained about lack of involvement last year, and I don't see them happening this year either.
I can't find the quote where he brought up Brent Celek and how he was a much better player and more targeted when he was qb. He said it on Mike and Mike though, so I'm sure it's out there.
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Have fun holding Christian Ponder's balls all season, douche.
The guys on offense would walk thru fire for Vick.
Conversely they wouldn't piss on McNabb if he was ON fire.
farg that clown.
You guys are slipping. I was waiting to see how long it would take for you guys to get hold of this...
Donny really needs to shut the farg up and quit hating though...
yeah me and sunny were talking about this on email this morning when the board was still dead.....what i find most funny is the bedwetter on one hand bitching that he was never given weapons.....then turning around and saying that the eagles have too many weapons this year
Quote from: Feva on August 03, 2011, 07:22:41 PM
You guys are slipping. I was waiting to see how long it would take for you guys to get hold of this...
Donny really needs to shut the farg up and quit hating though...
Blame it on G_F!
Sad that there were pockets of us holding mini-CF sessions on email and Facebook.
losers
Rich losers, though.
Quote from: FastFreddie on August 03, 2011, 07:34:15 PM
Sad that there were pockets of us holding mini-CF sessions on email and Facebook.
The thought briefly crossed my mind that I could check in with several :CF'ers on Facebook to find out what the problem was with the board. Fortunately, I remembered that I don't give a shtein.
There was a problem with the board?
And get dead McNabb. Douche.
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 03, 2011, 07:32:14 PM
yeah me and sunny were talking about this on email this morning when the board was still dead.....what i find most funny is the bedwetter on one hand bitching that he was never given weapons.....then turning around and saying that the eagles have too many weapons this year
At least you had someone to talk to. Eagaholic/SeaBiscuit/Rome had me on call ignore.
If McNabb was smart, he'd shut up for a good while so that Philly can start to forget he's a tool and remember some of the better times. He's not helping himself.
hes been a douche for much much longer than you or anyone else thinks....april 04 to be exact...tough to ever undo that
His problem is that he's neither as smart nor as good as he thinks he is. Bad combo. Shutting up is the way to go.
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That is great!
farg that farging cork sucking jerkoff. I was a big McNabb supporter but now, farg him the farging farg.