Just thought this was interesting.... (http://theredzone.org/news/showarticle.asp?ArticleID=2438)
Cheaters.
I betcha the Gramatica-slayer is one of 'em.
just to show what kinda mood I'm in today, I really thought this was gonna be a story about hemmoroids :boom
Used them right before the 2004 Super Bowl (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/03/29/60II/main683747.shtml)
Cheating bastiches! :boom
Quote from: QB Eagles on March 29, 2005, 06:05:33 PM
Used them right before the 2004 Super Bowl (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/03/29/60II/main683747.shtml)
Cheating bastiches! :boom
Which means they were probably using during the NFCCG.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on March 29, 2005, 08:13:30 PM
Quote from: QB Eagles on March 29, 2005, 06:05:33 PM
Used them right before the 2004 Super Bowl (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/03/29/60II/main683747.shtml)
Cheating bastiches! :boom
Which means they were probably using during the NFCCG.
Yep. We wuz robbed.
Other team juicing
2/3 of the team injured
Chokers.
Larry was right about Sauerbrun being one of them.
I like it when he rips on the moronic Dramatica Gramatica family. Even the snot nosed college kicker Santiago got into it with Sauerbrun. :-D
Damn cheaters!
This is a funny picture:
(http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20050330/capt.ny16503300016.steroids_panthers_ny165.jpg)
Quote from: PhillyGirl on March 29, 2005, 10:38:49 PM
This is a funny picture:
(http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20050330/capt.ny16503300016.steroids_panthers_ny165.jpg)
Holy crap, Mitchell's neck is wider then his head :-D
Quote from: PhillyGirl on March 29, 2005, 08:13:30 PM
Quote from: QB Eagles on March 29, 2005, 06:05:33 PM
Used them right before the 2004 Super Bowl (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/03/29/60II/main683747.shtml)
Cheating bastiches! :boom
Which means they were probably using during the NFCCG.
farging cheating bastiches! I demand a re-count. That prick LB who speared DMac must have been juiced like Hollywood Henderson before Super Bowl XIII. Manning had to have been roided up to manhandle Pinky like he did ::)
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/03/29/60II/main683747.shtml
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Steroids Prescribed To NFL Players
March 29, 2005
An exclusive report reveals the names of three NFL players who filled steroid prescriptions before they played in the 2004 Super Bowl. (Photo: CBS/AP)
"This is not even medicine. This is better athletes through chemistry."
Mignon Simpson
(CBS) A list obtained exclusively by 60 Minutes Wednesday reveals that three Carolina Panthers professional football players had prescriptions filled for a banned steroid less than two weeks before they played in the 2004 Super Bowl.
Contributor Anderson Cooper also reports that two of the players repeatedly refilled their steroid prescriptions -- in one case, 10 times.
Cooper's exclusive report will be broadcast on 60 Minutes Wednesday on March 30, at 8 p.m. ET/PT.
The prescription records, obtained by 60 Minutes Wednesday, show that offensive lineman Todd Stuessie got 11 prescriptions for testosterone cream over an eight-month period in 2004.
That same record also shows that Panthers' lineman Jeff Mitchell filled a testosterone prescription seven times. Todd Sauerbrun, one of the best punters in the NFL, received more than just testosterone. According to the list, he also obtained syringes and Stanozolol, an injectable steroid also banned by the NFL. The prescriptions were written by Dr. James Shortt, a South Carolina doctor.
NFL Commissioner Paul Tagliabue confirmed at a team owners meeting last week that the league is investigating what happened. David Black, a forensic toxicologist who helped the NFL set up its drug-testing program in the late 1980s, tells 60 Minutes Wednesday that there is a problem if the NFL's testing program didn't catch players receiving so many steroid prescriptions for so long.
"If this continued to go on, under the umbrella of that program, then that program needs to be reevaluated...and have some substantial improvement," says Black.
The NFL says it plans to toughen its screening for testosterone, but there's one banned substance the league doesn't have any test for yet: Human Growth Hormone. Like steroids, HGH can help make big athletes even bigger, but there's currently no reliable test for it.
Shortt was also providing HGH to NFL players, says Mignon Simpson, one of the doctor's former employees, who says she shipped some of the HGH to the players. She also tells Cooper that "possibly a half dozen" professional football players received HGH from the doctor: "The amount and dosage...I don't recall, but I know when things cost...[a] couple of thousand dollars, that's not a little bit."
Despite an ongoing Drug Enforcement Administration investigation, Shortt is still a practicing physician. "This is not even medicine," says forensic toxicologist David Black. "This is better athletes through chemistry."
Shortt declined to be interviewed by 60 Minutes Wednesday for this report, while Mitchell and Steussie did not respond to repeated calls and letters.
When contacted by phone, Sauerbrun said this about Shortt, "I like the guy very much."
Then, 10 minutes later, he called back and said, "Dude, we got our communications confused. I don't know this guy."
Ahem ;D (http://www.concretefield.com/forum/index.php?topic=14757.new;boardseen#new)
Figured it's better that I point it out before PG swims in for the kill. ;)
Oh well.
To late and in the wrong forum.
I won't lose any sleep.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on March 29, 2005, 10:38:49 PM
This is a funny picture:
(http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20050330/capt.ny16503300016.steroids_panthers_ny165.jpg)
In the words of some random dude from Deuce Bigalow: "That's a huge head"
Why are Steroids produced? Is there a legitimate use? I know the answers. Do any of you?
Steriods are produced for medical reasons - to help people recover from certain medical conditions/situations.
I was prescribed steriods once when I had a severe case of poison ivy...it looked like I had sunburn on my entire body and one of my eyes was swollen shut. The steriods helped my body fight off the bacteria in the poison, thus helping me recover.
Quote from: mikey418 on March 30, 2005, 08:53:47 AM
I was prescribed steriods once when I had a severe case of poison ivy...it looked like I had sunburn on my entire body and one of my eyes was swollen shut. The steriods helped my body fight off the bacteria in the poison, thus helping me recover.
Those aren't anabolic steroids and are completely different.
Steroids are actually a safe way to build muscle, it's once they're abused that they can become hazardous to your health.
Quote from: stillupfront on March 30, 2005, 08:42:42 AM
Why are Steroids produced? Is there a legitimate use? I know the answers. Do any of you?
What is this, some kind of farging quiz show? Take your answers and shove 'em up your ass!
I had to take a 6 day steroid pack after my wrist surgery. Medrol Dose Pak it was called.
Anabolic steroids are synthetic testosterone. Testosterone is a naturally occuring hormone in men. It helps define secondary sexual characteristics in males (eg. deeper voice, facial hair, the ability to build large muscles etc).
A common side effect of type II Diabetes is a drop in testosterone levels resulting in Erectile Dysfunction. This is most commonly treated by Anabolic Steroids. Specifically with Cream or Gel ( "the clear" in reference to Barry Bonds). The blood levels are kept at a level that is to be expected in healthy males. There is absolutely no performance enhancement (except in the bedroom). Steroid testing in sports finds steroid abusers by finding a highly elevated level of testosterone in the blood. Therefore, no amount of testing would show this type of user as a steroid abuser.
Did any of y'all see the 60 Minutes story on this?
Best part was where Andersen Cooper says that only Todd Sauerbrun had a comment on this.
Sauerbrun said that the Doctor was "great. a good guy"...
Then ten minutes later he called Cooper back and said "Dude, I got my communication screwed up. I don't know that Doctor".
:-D :-D :-D
Some of us were watching Lost. :P
Oh. I've never seen that show.
I did the 60 Minutes / King of Queens thing tonight.
Get the DVD when it comes out this summer, show should win best drama series at the Emmys.
Back to the roid popping Panthers, did the piece tell us anything that wasnt given in the articles?
I'll check it out. I'm trying to build up my DVD series collection (I need to find Third Watch..love that show).
Anyways, nah, the piece didn't tell too much more. I just loved the part about Sauerbrun trying to pull a fast one on the media. What a dope.
Quote from: MDS on March 30, 2005, 09:33:25 PM
Some of us were watching Lost. :P
only the gays!
Well then over 18 million people have a lot of 'splanin to do. :paranoid
Quote from: MDS on March 31, 2005, 06:54:43 AM
Well then over 18 million people have a lot of 'splanin to do. :paranoid
Not 'spainin'! Just trying to fight off the
Anally
Injected
Death
Sentence
QuoteDoctor stands accused of prescribing steroids
ESPN.com news services
Four more NFL players are expected to be tied to Dr. James Shortt, the physician who has been accused of prescribing steroids to patients, according to an HBO report on "Costas Now."
The network plans to air a story Friday night in which it identifies four previously unnamed NFL players as patients of Shortt, an alternative medicine doctor who remains at the center of a federal steroids investigation, according to HBO reporter Armen Keteyian.
Keteyian said Thursday night that the piece will "definitely push forward" the story of the involvement of Carolina Panthers players and other NFL players with Shortt.
Neither Keteyian nor HBO officials would release the list of players to be named; however, network spokesman Raymond Stallone told the Raleigh News and Observer that former Carolina defensive end John Milem would be interviewed on the broadcast "as a former patient of Shortt."
Five Panthers players have already been identified as patients of Shortt, according to the report, and three -- center Jeff Mitchell, punter Todd Sauerbrun and tackle Todd Steussie -- were all named in a CBS report as having obtained the prescriptions from Shortt for NFL-banned steroids. Mitchell is the only one still with the team.
Milem declined comment when reached by the Observer. He was with the Panthers for parts of the 2001 and 2002 teams.
Keteyian told the newspaper that Milem will be presented as "patient zero" -- the first of at least a dozen NFL players treated by Shortt.
Stallone said the program's extensive interview with Shortt will focus on what he was trying to accomplish in treating Panthers and other NFL players.
The Observer reported in July that, according to two sources close to the situation, former Panthers guard Kevin Donnalley obtained the banned steroid testosterone from Shortt. Former Carolina receiver Nathan Black told the paper in May that he was a patient of Shortt briefly, but did not obtain steroids from the doctor.
According to the paper, Shortt said in March that he had prescribed steroids in low doses to patients when medically necessary for healing and repair -- and not to athletes for performance enhancement.
Shortt is under investigation by the DEA and the South Carolina State Law Enforcement Division for possible illegal steroids distribution.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on August 12, 2005, 12:37:53 PMNeither Keteyian nor HBO officials would release the list of players to be named; however, network spokesman Raymond Stallone told the Raleigh News and Observer that former Carolina defensive end John Milem would be interviewed on the broadcast "as a former patient of Shortt."
Better not have any Eagles on that list.
Pinkston's on that list.
No one would blame him, heck some would defend him, citing it as proof that he's willling to take the extra syringe for the team.
The problem is he kept shooting up in his knee.