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Good...lets hope there is enough evidence to put him away for awhile...and not in some "nice" prison.  In the words of "Office Space" I hope he goes to a "pound me in the ass prison".

I was thinking that he should be forced to liquidate all his assets, that the money should be put into a scholarship fund for the children of former Enron employees, and then he should be forced to work at McDonalds for the rest of his natural life, with his wages attached in a symbolic effort to cover the immense legal costs incurred by the government because of his crimes.

lol...I was thinking this was a S&M thread.

Quote from: Zanshin on July 08, 2004, 11:53:41 AM
lol...I was thinking this was a S&M thread.

:-D :-D :-D

That's exactly what I thought when I read the thread title.  

Great minds think alike.   :paranoid

   
Jury finds former Enron executives Kenneth Lay and Jeffrey Skilling guilty in corporate fraud trial.

:yay :yay :yay


http://money.cnn.com/2006/05/25/news/newsmakers/enron_verdict/index.htm?cnn=yes

May they rot in hell.

Quote from: Diomedes on May 25, 2006, 12:13:53 PM
May they rot in hell.

What he said.

But wait, I thought BushCo was going to get them acquitted?   ::)

You thought wrong, Rush.

Here's to one million ass rapings@! Yea!  :spank

Ass rapings?  Ha.  They'll play tennis, trade stocks in the computer lounge, and politely decline jumping the 6 foot chain link fence.  Then they'll get out on good behaviour.

Meanwhile, the kid who just got popped for a quarter ounce of weed, he gets 8 years worth of pmita prison.  12 if he's black.

sad but true. i was only praying for that to actually happen.  :'(

Quote from: Butchers Bill on May 25, 2006, 12:22:00 PM
But wait, I thought BushCo was going to get them acquitted?   ::)

Wasn't it Bush the one to pull the plug on Enron and other companies.

Quote from: Diomedes on July 08, 2004, 10:44:38 AM

I was thinking that he should be forced to liquidate all his assets, that the money should be put into a scholarship fund for the children of former Enron employees, and then he should be forced to work at McDonalds for the rest of his natural life, with his wages attached in a symbolic effort to cover the immense legal costs incurred by the government because of his crimes.

I like this idea much better than prison. Lets also add he has to live in a one room walk-up with a bathroom thats down the hallway, shared by everyone else on his floor. An ankle bracelet and report to his parole officer once a week for the rest of his life. Miss a day of work- spend the night on the street in a sleeping bag.

Quote from: Diomedes on May 25, 2006, 12:13:53 PM
May they rot in hell.

those Enron arseholes are the ones that resulted in all this Sarbanes-Oxley (aka: SOX*) crap being instituted.  It's made my life a living Accounting hell  >:(

* - rules designed to require ongoing evaluation of the effectiveness of corporate internal controls and disclosures (see, it even sounds scary)

SOX is a perfect example of bad law.  All you had to do was enforce the goddamned laws on the books.  Grandstanding lawmakers can't get press and votes from that though, so they had to draft this piece of shtein legislation.  The requirements are absolutely ridiculous.  I'm no defender of corporations--I think they are a bigger threat to human life than terrorism, actually--but this law raises costs for companies needlessly.  Then, corporations being satan's spawn, they simpley pass pass the cost down to the consumer, so we get farged in the end. 

We just implemented SAP and basically ignored SOX.  farg 'em.  We'd rather pay lawyers to get us out of trouble IF we get in trouble, than pay consultants outrageous fees to encumber our work processes with useless controls. 

Quote from: mcnabbmvp on May 26, 2006, 01:55:31 AM

Quote from: Butchers Bill on May 25, 2006, 12:22:00 PM
But wait, I thought BushCo was going to get them acquitted?   ::)

Wasn't it Bush the one to pull the plug on Enron and other companies.

Why yes, it was.

The press outed Enron, not Bush.  He was happy to let them continue, and wouldn't have done a damn thing if the public didn't know what was happening. 

Good to know we can always count on our resident Rush to defend Bush, even when he's not being attacked.

Quote from: Diomedes on May 26, 2006, 11:09:55 AM
SOX is a perfect example of bad law.  All you had to do was enforce the goddamned laws on the books.  Grandstanding lawmakers can't get press and votes from that though, so they had to draft this piece of shtein legislation.  The requirements are absolutely ridiculous.  I'm no defender of corporations--I think they are a bigger threat to human life than terrorism, actually--but this law raises costs for companies needlessly.  Then, corporations being satan's spawn, they simpley pass pass the cost down to the consumer, so we get farged in the end. 

We just implemented SAP and basically ignored SOX.  farg 'em.  We'd rather pay lawyers to get us out of trouble IF we get in trouble, than pay consultants outrageous fees to encumber our work processes with useless controls. 

we've been on SAP for 4 years.  it took a whole 2 years just to get comfy with it.  Initial training is unbearable.  It is a great overall system, but requires a lot of daily babysitting (every nuance is analyzed/critiqued), not to mention the costs of having consultants for every module.     I wish you luck!

Quote from: Diomedes on May 26, 2006, 11:13:49 AM

Good to know we can always count on our resident Stuart Smalley to attack Bush, even when he's not being defended.

(http://digitaltirade.com/Rants/archives/stuartSmalley.jpg)

Fixed.

u r 8o clevr.

Quote from: dis12 on May 26, 2006, 11:35:37 AMwe've been on SAP for 4 years.  it took a whole 2 years just to get comfy with it.  Initial training is unbearable.  It is a great overall system, but requires a lot of daily babysitting (every nuance is analyzed/critiqued), not to mention the costs of having consultants for every module.     I wish you luck!

My company started SAP a long time ago, got pissed at the whole thing it, cut it out, and then changed their minds. Now it's moving forward. Slowly, but forward. It's a real love-hate relationship. Part of the problem here is that we're somthing of The Borg of the corporate world, and it's hard to get all the acquired bits to cooperate.

Quote from: dis12 on May 26, 2006, 11:02:15 AM

Quote from: Diomedes on May 25, 2006, 12:13:53 PM
May they rot in hell.

those Enron arseholes are the ones that resulted in all this Sarbanes-Oxley (aka: SOX*) crap being instituted.  It's made my life a living Accounting hell  >:(

* - rules designed to require ongoing evaluation of the effectiveness of corporate internal controls and disclosures (see, it even sounds scary)

When I found out that Sarbanes-Oxley were actual people who actually legislated this crap I immediatly wanted to find them and slap them in the face. They took a case where the corporate exec screws the workers out of millions and used it to force the workers all over the country to audit themselves. WTF! I needed more useless TPS reports really...

What's funny is that I seem to be flying under the SOX radar. They've asked about things here, but there's very little we do here that involves the stuff they're concerned about.

Quote from: Susquehanna Birder on May 26, 2006, 01:20:59 PM
What's funny is that I seem to be flying under the SOX radar. They've asked about things here, but there's very little we do here that involves the stuff they're concerned about.

I would assume that unless you are a publicly traded company, you don't have to worry that much about SOX...just the corp execs who might be ripping-off the company. :o

Quote from: Susquehanna Birder on May 26, 2006, 12:05:21 PM

Quote from: dis12 on May 26, 2006, 11:35:37 AMwe've been on SAP for 4 years.  it took a whole 2 years just to get comfy with it.  Initial training is unbearable.  It is a great overall system, but requires a lot of daily babysitting (every nuance is analyzed/critiqued), not to mention the costs of having consultants for every module.     I wish you luck!

My company started SAP a long time ago, got pissed at the whole thing it, cut it out, and then changed their minds. Now it's moving forward. Slowly, but forward. It's a real love-hate relationship. Part of the problem here is that we're somthing of The Borg of the corporate world, and it's hard to get all the acquired bits to cooperate.

I heard many companies did something similar (plug, unplug, replug). 
My firm went with the whole SAP R/3 package.  Being in Finance, it's a bear (we need to know it all).  Good thing is, it's valuable knowledge just in case I ever decide to leave.....any offers??

Not from me. Just a plea to take me with you.   :'(

Lay's dead (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060705/ap_on_bi_ge/obit_lay;_ylt=Ak8t.CMf78E8P4x6gO3o7Z0kkKQB;_ylu=X3oDMTBiMW04NW9mBHNlYwMlJVRPUCUl)

This is good enough for both this thread and the Good Riddance thread..

Add it to the Dead in '06 thread while you're at it.

Quote from: Diomedes on July 05, 2006, 11:35:12 AM
Add it to the Dead in '06 thread while you're at it.

we can make it a sticky in every forum.

so, did he ever spend time in jail?

define "time" and "jail." 

he was charged/booked.  So he musta spent a few minutes in a cell somewhere before he walked on bail...

QuoteLay was scheduled to be sentenced Oct. 23. He faced decades in prison.

guess you guys didn't make it 2 inches down the article.

nope, i usually don't