Poll
Question:
Do you think he has played his last game as an Eagle?
Option 1: Yes
votes: 27
Option 2: No
votes: 22
Eskin is reporting T.O. is suspended for the taterskins game, and maybe more. Do you think he's played his last game as an Eagle? Look on the bright side, atleast you have McMullen.
taterskins fan reporting something Eskin says.
Glad I'll be able to puke from this.
PS...the Eagles were whipping the Skins asses with Thrash and Pinkston. ::)
Quote from: archer on November 05, 2005, 12:02:24 PM
Look on the bright side, atleast you have McMullen.
And you've got Ramsey. :D
If this is true, my weekend just got a whole lot better.
ESPNews showing TO suspended "indefinitely" the the corner "breaking news" box.
Yeeehaa!
We're gonna suck, but it really doesn't bother me. I'm just really glad Andy made a stand. :yay
Quote from: archer on November 05, 2005, 12:02:24 PM
Do you think he's played his last game as an Eagle?
Yup, I do.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on November 05, 2005, 12:36:52 PM
We're gonna suck, but it really doesn't bother me. I'm just really glad Andy made a stand. :yay
Ditto.
okay. so when does freddie mitchell sign?
Season over. And you can give me all the ::) you want...but it's done.
Please please please tell me he's done for the season.
Just my thoughts here. "indefinitely" is going to end up to be like 1-2 games.
Quote from: The Waco Kid on November 05, 2005, 12:38:36 PMSeason over. And you can give me all the ::) you want...but it's done.
Does that mean you'll leave? It is possible that my weekend could get better?
Quote from: The Waco Kid on November 05, 2005, 12:38:36 PM
Season over. And you can give me all the ::) you want...but it's done.
I agree with you for the most part, the talents there to make a run but with the way this teams been playing it's very unlikely.
Wonder if he has any trade value whatsoever. The Whiners got a 2nd for him from the Ravens prior to him coming to us. I hope he gets traded to somewhere with a zesty QB.
He wont be an eagle next year, guaranteed.
Quote from: thrillhouse on November 05, 2005, 12:41:43 PM
He wont be an eagle next year, guaranteed.
woah you're really going out on a limb there
Quote from: Diomedes on November 05, 2005, 12:40:32 PM
Quote from: The Waco Kid on November 05, 2005, 12:38:36 PMSeason over. And you can give me all the ::) you want...but it's done.
Does that mean you'll leave? It is possible that my weekend could get better?
Eat my ass. New York dick.
Quote from: thrillhouse on November 05, 2005, 12:41:43 PMHe wont be an eagle next year, guaranteed.
He won't be an Eagle the rest of this year, Jeebus willing.
Quote from: The Waco Kid on November 05, 2005, 12:42:28 PMNew York meatcicle.
Coming from a Texan, that's a fine compliment. I'll take New York, you can have Texas. Now, are you gonna go away? Because that would be cool.
glad Reid finally did something about it. It's going to be even sweeter when the Eagles beat the Skins without TO. ha.
Quote from: MURP on November 05, 2005, 12:48:06 PM
glad Reid finally did something about it. It's going to be even sweeter when the Eagles beat the Skins without TO. ha.
andy will pass the ball 600 times to mcmullen.
He may have played his last game as an Eagle. Honestly, you have to respect Reid for what he has done. This may actually help your team. Give other players a chance to show what they have rather than waiting for T.O. to make a play. The tension in that locker room had to be unbareable with him in there. Apparently, the appology he showed to the Eagles before his press conference yesterday contained an appology to McNabb. T.O. never read that part of the appology.
Quote from: Diomedes on November 05, 2005, 12:44:50 PM
Quote from: The Waco Kid on November 05, 2005, 12:42:28 PMNew York meatcicle.
Coming from a Texan, that's a fine compliment. I'll take New York, you can have Texas. Now, are you gonna go away? Because that would be cool.
:-D :-D
This will be a nice opportunity for Reggie to make himself known.
Quote from: archer on November 05, 2005, 12:50:12 PM
He may have played his last game as an Eagle. Honestly, you have to respect Reid for what he has done. This may actually help your team. Give other players a chance to show what they have rather than waiting for T.O. to make a play. The tension in that locker room had to be unbareable with him in there. Apparently, the appology he showed to the Eagles before his press conference yesterday contained an appology to McNabb. T.O. never read that part of the appology.
steel cage death match. winner take all.
I don't think McNabb could fight his way out of a senior citizen bridge tournament.
Quote from: Diomedes on November 05, 2005, 12:44:50 PM
Quote from: The Waco Kid on November 05, 2005, 12:42:28 PMNew York meatcicle.
Coming from a Texan, that's a fine compliment. I'll take New York, you can have Texas. Now, are you gonna go away? Because that would be cool.
Are you gonna stop being an icehole? There is your answer cuz it'll never happen.
Quote from: Diomedes on November 05, 2005, 12:50:47 PM
This will be a nice opportunity for Reggie to make himself known.
lets just hope its in a positive fashion. ;)
Quote from: MURP on November 05, 2005, 12:53:05 PM
lets just hope its in a positive fashion. ;)
I don't see why it would be otherwise. He's looked good so far.
Quote from: The Waco Kid on November 05, 2005, 12:52:45 PMAre you gonna stop being an icehole?
No, you can pretty much count on me being mean to you forever. I don't like your kind.
Quote from: Diomedes on November 05, 2005, 12:54:48 PM
Quote from: The Waco Kid on November 05, 2005, 12:52:45 PMAre you gonna stop being an icehole?
No, you can pretty much count on me being mean to you forever. I don't like your kind.
Good, then shut your piehole and pm me if you have a problem from now on.
(http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/spo/med/2005/11/nfl/1131143829.jpg)
stfu already Waco, you're killing another thread.
QuoteEagles | Owens Suspended for Week 9
Sat, 5 Nov 2005 09:49:11 -0800
Jay Glazer, of FOXSports.com, reports Philadelphia Eagles WR Terrell Owens (ankle) will not make the trip with the team and has been suspended for at least Week 9. The move comes after Owens again bashed the team. WR Reggie Brown is expected to start in Owens' place.
lets keep on topic instead of the back and forth nonsense.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on November 05, 2005, 12:56:18 PM
stfu already Waco, you're killing another thread.
::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
Yeah, something Dio and rjs have never done.
effin finally...sal pal said the team asked TO to apologize to the coaches the front office and the players..and all TO did was that phony ass media apology...that was what set this off
the indefinitely tag needs to be pulled here and get him out of the city forever...i think thats the case anyway but even the appearance of him being able to come back is not good for the team
lol...i like how del val disaster in the CF-NFC picked up reggie brown already.
I guess reid's diet helped him rediscovered his balls. it had been a while since he weilded some power...ala...george hegimen, or correll buckhalter style. :yay
Reggie and GLew, with McMullen in for 3wr sets. This is gonna be suckalicious.
It'd be better with more Westbrook out wide and Gordon in the backfield.
Quote from: The Waco Kid on November 05, 2005, 12:57:09 PM
Yeah, something Dio and rjs have never done.
Dude don't drag me into this. I'm obviously far more loveable than you.
This is a last ditch effort by the birds to get TO with the program. He wasn't gonna be healthy for a week or two anyway so MAYBE when/if he comes back his attitude will improve...Eagles win either way ;)
Quote from: The Waco Kid on November 05, 2005, 01:02:05 PM
It'd be better with more Westbrook out wide and Gordon in the backfield.
Gotta agree with you on that one,
Wacko.
Thing is, no one will give even a second look to Gordon. He makes no one worry.
Honestly, you have to respect Reid for what he has done
are you kidding?
its a start but its still to little (it should be permanantly not indefinitely) and to late (this should have happened in august
Quote from: rjs246 on November 05, 2005, 01:02:28 PM
Quote from: The Waco Kid on November 05, 2005, 12:57:09 PM
Yeah, something Dio and rjs have never done.
Dude don't drag me into this. I'm obviously far more loveable than you.
It's okay...you can be in my club.
Quote from: Diomedes on November 05, 2005, 01:03:36 PM
Quote from: The Waco Kid on November 05, 2005, 01:02:05 PM
It'd be better with more Westbrook out wide and Gordon in the backfield.
Gotta agree with you on that one, Wacko.
Thing is, no one will give even a second look to Gordon. He makes no one worry.
Moats?
Who?
This is a last ditch effort by the birds to get TO with the program. He wasn't gonna be healthy for a week or two anyway so MAYBE when/if he comes back his attitude will improve
this comment makes me wanna get violently abusive with someone
god when will people realize that this is who TO is and he will NEVER change
Quote from: Diomedes on November 05, 2005, 01:05:20 PM
Who?
Guess we're SOL. Oh well, AR wasn't gonna run anyway.
How long does it usually take PE.com to post a story like this?
which season was worst to endure? this one or 3-13?
Quote from: Sun_Mo on November 05, 2005, 01:07:59 PM
which season was worst to endure? this one or 3-13?
3-13
easy.
Quote from: Sun_Mo on November 05, 2005, 01:07:59 PM
which season was worst to endure? this one or 3-13?
Can I answer this question in 9 weeks?
Quote from: Diomedes on November 05, 2005, 01:08:59 PM
Quote from: Sun_Mo on November 05, 2005, 01:07:59 PM
which season was worst to endure? this one or 3-13?
Can I answer this question in 9 weeks?
Even comparing this season to that is preposterous. Do you all forget what that season was like? ::)
Quote from: Diomedes on November 05, 2005, 01:07:32 PM
How long does it usually take PE.com to post a story like this?
Monday ???
Quote from: Diomedes on November 05, 2005, 01:07:32 PM
How long does it usually take PE.com to post a story like this?
Spadaro, slow as usual. I noticed in his column for saturday morning that he said he thinks it's not over for the weekend. I'm sure he knew something was coming.
3-13
easy
by miles...theres a future after this season with the cap room and a solid foundation already in place...after 3-13 there wasnt even a flicker at the end of the tunnel
Quote from: Diomedes on November 05, 2005, 01:08:59 PM
Quote from: Sun_Mo on November 05, 2005, 01:07:59 PM
which season was worst to endure? this one or 3-13?
Can I answer this question in 9 weeks?
i meant to this point. but answer it whenever you want.
TO getting suspended all by itself makes this season better than 3-13
they got shut out three times during 3-13 including 38-0 to the friggin seahawks at home
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 05, 2005, 01:14:39 PM
TO getting suspended all by itself makes this season better than 3-13
they got shut out three times during 3-13 including 38-0 to the friggin seahawks at home
That season was my first year living in LA and I had to drag my ass out of bed really early every Sunday just to watch the games (at a bar like 30 minutes from my house). Getting up to watch those games was just the worst because I think they started what? 0-6 that season? :puke
Quote from: PhillyGirl on November 05, 2005, 01:16:03 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 05, 2005, 01:14:39 PM
TO getting suspended all by itself makes this season better than 3-13
they got shut out three times during 3-13 including 38-0 to the friggin seahawks at home
That season was my first year living in LA and I had to drag my ass out of bed really early every Sunday just to watch the games (at a bar like 30 minutes from my house). Getting up to watch those games was just the worst because I think they started what? 0-6 that season? :puke
0-5. first win was at home against the taterskins, who were also awful that year.
i cant remember what they started but i know their first three losses or three of first four were against perrenial outhouses seattle atlanta and st louis
first win i do know was against the skins
The Skins were actually winless at that point too. Forgot about that.
I remember being at the bar and there were like 5 Skins fans....it was the battle of the suck.
http://www.profootballreference.com/teams/phi1998.htm
:puke
And if you remember, the second year I was in LA, they opened the season with that HUGE loss to the Cruds where they gave up the 21-0 lead to lose.
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 05, 2005, 01:18:12 PM
i cant remember what they started but i know their first three losses or three of first four were against perrenial outhouses seattle atlanta and st louis
first win i do know was against the skins
Seattle in week 1
Tampa in week 2 (went to that game)
Chiefs in week ???
San Diego in week ???
I wanna say New Orleans was the other loss but I'm not certain.
I think those are the teams that got the Eagles off to an 0-5 start though.
The game against St Louis that year was a win sometime around the middle of the season. Eagles 3 wins that year were against the Skins, Lions and Rams I beleive.
Regardless, this season is much worse than the 98 season. I knew the Eagles would suck that year. There were no expectations for that team. This team is a complete disappointment.
If you ask me, this season just got a whole helluva lot better.
box score to the game (http://www.jt-sw.com/football/boxes/index.nsf/8aba06aaab1d51b485256a9e000c9904/3d7cebbc2424752a85256ac20006436e?OpenDocument)
kaseem sinceno 3 yard td reception from rodney peete was the clincher. :-D
michael "dont call me brian" westbrook was the leading reciever for the skins
boniol missed a 48 yard fg. boy did he suck.
Spads managed to put his spin up. (http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/news/newsDetail.jsp?id=38864)
He managed to work in the phrase "T-E-A-M", who would have guessed?
maybe moats can play now?
cant wait for tomorrows game now...esp when the eagles win!
Or, I could just look at the 1998 schedule (http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/pdf/Y_B_YRESULTS_STATS.pdf)
I was thinking about the 1999 season when they lost to Tampa in week 2.
1998:
Week 1: L to Seattle
Week 2: L to Atlanta
Week 3: L to Arizona
Week 4: L to KC
Week 5: L to Denver
I was right about the 3 wins though:
Week 6: W against Skins
Week 10:W against Lions
Week 14:W against Rams
You could say ESPN started this but I forget what channel is covering the game tommorow :paranoid
Quote from: Sgt PSN on November 05, 2005, 01:35:46 PM
Or, I could just look at the 1998 schedule (http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/pdf/Y_B_YRESULTS_STATS.pdf)
I was thinking about the 1999 season when they lost to Tampa in week 2.
1998:
Week 1: L to Seattle
Week 2: L to Atlanta
Week 3: L to Arizona
Week 4: L to KC
Week 5: L to Denver
I was right about the 3 wins though:
Week 6: W against Skins
Week 10:W against Lions
Week 14:W against Rams
Or you could read the thread and see that it was already posted. :-D
I've hated TO for a long time... long before he played for the classless fecals. >:D
Anyways, the question is, would you rather him play one more game against Dallas, so Roy Williams can have one last crack at him, or would you prefer he never wear your puke-colored unis ever again?
Quote from: 5 Rings on November 05, 2005, 01:56:52 PM
I've hated TO for a long time... long before he played for the classless fecals. >:D
Anyways, the question is, would you rather him play one more game against Dallas, so Roy Williams can have one last crack at him, or would you prefer he never wear your puke-colored unis ever again?
Roy Williams sucks.
And a dallas fan calling the Eagles classless?
Priceless.
skins fans are upset because they wanted that criminal sean taylor to knock to out.
QuoteRoy Williams sucks.
If by "sucks" you mean, the "best defensive back in the NFL," then I agree with you 100%.
ha
Quote from: MDS on November 05, 2005, 02:00:32 PM
skins fans are upset because they wanted that criminal sean taylor to knock to out.
I was begining to like T.O. and Taylor jawing at each other after every play. With them two it tough to get word in edgewise. I'd love to here the intelectual dialauge that was exchanged between the two.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on November 05, 2005, 01:21:10 PM
http://www.profootballreference.com/teams/phi1998.htm
:puke
And if you remember, the second year I was in LA, they opened the season with that HUGE loss to the Cruds where they gave up the 21-0 lead to lose.
I was at that game. I was moving to Texas the next week and it was my last game as a season ticket holder. After that, i gave them to my sister. It was a horrible day.
Quote from: 5 Rings on November 05, 2005, 02:05:31 PM
QuoteRoy Williams sucks.
If by "sucks" you mean, the "best defensive back in the NFL," then I agree with you 100%.
Roy Williams is the most overrated punk in the NFL.
Quote from: 5 Rings on November 05, 2005, 02:05:31 PM
QuoteRoy Williams sucks.
If by "sucks" you mean, the "best defensive back in the NFL," then I agree with you 100%.
You dropped your crack pipe while typing
Quote from: archer on November 05, 2005, 02:16:56 PM
Quote from: 5 Rings on November 05, 2005, 02:05:31 PM
QuoteRoy Williams sucks.
If by "sucks" you mean, the "best defensive back in the NFL," then I agree with you 100%.
You dropped your crack pipe while typing
Silly Skins fan... you should know that a Cowboy or a Cowboy fan would NEVER, EVER drop his crack pipe. Duhhhh.
Quote from: 5 Rings on November 05, 2005, 01:56:52 PM
I've hated TO for a long time... long before he played for the classless fecals. >:D
Anyways, the question is, would you rather him play one more game against Dallas, so Roy Williams can have one last crack at him, or would you prefer he never wear your puke-colored unis ever again?
I prefer for you to shut your mouth.
Quote from: The Waco Kid on November 05, 2005, 02:10:22 PM
Quote from: 5 Rings on November 05, 2005, 02:05:31 PM
QuoteRoy Williams sucks.
If by "sucks" you mean, the "best defensive back in the NFL," then I agree with you 100%.
Roy Williams is the most overrated punk in the NFL.
Hmmmmm lets look at 9/19/05 MNF last 4 minutes
Williams really does suck and he is not the best back in the NFL and one could argue that he isn't even a top 5 back in this division, it would be hard but i see dawkins lewis ledo taylor and springs all above him.
Lewis has looked a lot like Roy Williams in pass coverage this season, though.
Actually, the best defensive back on the Eagles this year is the one that DIDN'T go to the Pro Bowl last year.
But all 4 of them are better than Roy. Because they're not crack-smoking, Destiny's Child marrying Cowpukes.
Not Springs and definitely not Lito the way he's been playing this year.
Also, ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. T.O. is the devil. NB needs to hunt him down. This should be for the season. The only way it's not is if he's suspended withOUT pay.
He can be suspended for up to 4 games without pay for conduct detrimental, according the the NFLPA.
He and Rosenpenis can choose to appeal, and probably will.
Regardless the guy's an even bigger douchebag than me.
Did he want the Eagles to stop the game so he could make out with the ball? The Colts didn't stop the game when Harrison caught his 100th earlier this year.
Did you know McNabb and Harrison went to Syracuse together??
GET HARRISON!!!!1
wayne/pinky/g-lew/reggie/wilbur will be the wr corps next year.
Does anyone think that this will knock TO down a few pegs and maybe he'll see the light? :-D
I don't see what team would want him after all the bullcrap this year. Andy will have to almost give him away if he's planning on trading him.
What a friggen' moron. He just couldn't STFU and play.
I can't believe that there is still a Dallas fan stupid enough to think that Roy Williams is the best at anything (except at being the best at missing his guy in coverage).
He's the best at making illegal tackles and trying to injure players.
Williams can hit, but he couldn't cover a Turtle.
I wonder if there will be any public antics by TO while he's suspended. Any more interviews that will get him sent home for the rest of the season.
Isn't there a clause in his contract that says if TO misses any games due to poor conduct and/or disciplinary reasons, that the following year of the contract will be played out under the current year's terms? Meaning, IF the Eagles decide to keep TO for another season, it would be at the same terms of this year -- without the big-ass roster bonus he was due.
If that is the case, I won't say that TO is done with the Eagles.
IMO, you can bank on it, there will be interviews all day tomorrow, and with the game on ESPN, it's gonna be all they talk about before the game, and I'd bet money that there will be a TO interview before the game for him to spout more idiocies
Quote from: Tomahawk on November 05, 2005, 02:46:50 PM
Regardless the guy's an even bigger douchebag than me.
Did he want the Eagles to stop the game so he could make out with the ball? The Colts didn't stop the game when Harrison caught his 100th earlier this year.
Did you know McNabb and Harrison went to Syracuse together??
GET HARRISON!!!!1
Harrison, why? Theres better talent that played with McNabb in Syracuse.
I know we all have our opinions but T.O. give the Eagles a better change to win PERIOD
Quote from: 4and26 on November 05, 2005, 03:34:28 PM
I know we all have our opinions but T.O. give the Eagles a better change to win PERIOD
Agreement.
TO suspended makes me happy
Quote from: Dillen37 on November 05, 2005, 03:17:50 PM
Quote from: Tomahawk on November 05, 2005, 02:46:50 PM
Regardless the guy's an even bigger douchebag than me.
Did he want the Eagles to stop the game so he could make out with the ball? The Colts didn't stop the game when Harrison caught his 100th earlier this year.
Did you know McNabb and Harrison went to Syracuse together??
GET HARRISON!!!!1
Harrison, why? Theres better talent that played with McNabb in Syracuse.
Than Marvin Harrison? You're right.
GET KEVIN JOHNSON!!!!!
I hate coming in so far into it but do you think it will be more then just one game? You think Reid did it he knew that TO is hurting and he will be fine in 1 or 2 weeks?
No way! Reid is pissed and it's good for the team to have him gone for a little while.
is this supension with or without pay?
Quote from: Wingspan on November 05, 2005, 12:59:35 PM
lol...i like how del val disaster in the CF-NFC picked up reggie brown already.
Thanks, Wingspan. I happened to be on my PC with WIP on the radio when Eskin announced the suspension, so I picked up Reggie within minutes...my team needs help! ;D
I picked up Reggie Brown in two leagues, and GLew in one where he was still availble.
Quote from: jeffreyjpa on November 05, 2005, 04:05:54 PM
Quote from: Wingspan on November 05, 2005, 12:59:35 PM
lol...i like how del val disaster in the CF-NFC picked up reggie brown already.
Thanks, Wingspan. I happened to be on my PC with WIP on the radio when Eskin announced the suspension, so I picked up Reggie within minutes...my team needs help! ;D
I picked up Reggie Brown in two leagues, and GLew in one where he was still availble.
That's because I picked GLew with the final pick in my draft.
SUCKAS!
So since the season is over, who do you guys want with the 7th overall pick?
Nah I'm only kidding the season isn't over, but I'm completely torn in what to think. Half of me thinks that this is just a sign that the Eagles themselves are completely giving up on their season, and what kind of message does that send to the fans? The other half thinks that this may spark the team in some odd way, but ultimately a spark only carries you so far. You need the talent to win Superbowls and this team probably won't win one without TO, and now the chances at the playoffs are also a lot slimmer.
Thanks Andy and co for shattering thousands of fan's hopes at a parade, and flushing half of a season that I anticipated for half a year down the toilet.
The season goes as McNabb's injury status goes. Obviously they've proven in the past that they can win without TO. Now they have to go out and do that.
Obviously the Madden Cover jinx is trying to get to McNabb. Damn Madden!!
This move is going to go one of two obvious ways. Both of which are either huge positives or negatives. The Eagles go in and have a nice spark and win the game or they can lose and look like they really miss TO. If the Eagles lose this game because no receivers are getting open Andy is going to look VERY VERY bad with this move. Fans are going to crucify him and he is going to get a ton of boos at the Dallas MNF game. If the Eagles go out and rally and play well then he looks like a genius. It's going to be night and day.
I want the Eagles to win every game obviously, but if the Eagles come out and stink it up then Andy deserves whatever is coming to him.
If the Eagles come out and get their asses kicked and look like they missed TO, what are you guys going to say?
However, you cannot let TO run his mouth like he did without any consequences. If he just lets it go, he's a pushover and no player will respect him outside this organization.
Of course you can't, but if the Eagles go out and look like the 2003 NFCCG, then what kinda message does that say to the fans? This is either going to go really well or REALLY bad. I mean if our receivers just get pushed around and can't get open all night, it's going to be a flat out disaster.
wah.
Quote from: TO is GOD on November 05, 2005, 05:04:41 PM
Of course you can't, but if the Eagles go out and look like the 2003 NFCCG, then what kinda message does that say to the fans? This is either going to go really well or REALLY bad. I mean if our receivers just get pushed around and can't get open all night, it's going to be a flat out disaster.
The message I get is that Terrell Owens has reached a once thought unachievable level of idiocy. This really is all T.O.'s fault.
I'm not shocked. I expected to hear it yesterday when I woke up.
Hello Dink & Dunk offense, baby.
They're going to see a ton of "zero" coverage like DAL & DEN did to them.
Big Red must run the ball.
I'm not saying it isn't TO's fault. He probably does deserve to get suspended. However, if suspending him makes your team worse, then it isn't worth it. Will it make this team worse? We haven't found that out yet, and we will in about 27 hours. I think the Eagles are going to win the game even without TO, but if they don't then... :-D . I'll just say this town is going to get ugly, considering how important this game is. Andy potentially made a mistake of epic proportions.
Doing nothing would've made the team worse. They would not respect AR or the FO after doing nothing.
Hello Dink & Dunk offense, baby
because of the hernia it was all dink and dunk anyway...the difference is they dont have a yac guy now
oh well they werent going anywhere anyway...ill take a w tommorow nite...and a draft pick that comes before 5pm this year
I'll just say this town is going to get ugly, considering how important this game is. Andy potentially made a mistake of epic proportions
lolol @ epic proportions....hyperbolize much????...if this were the week of the nfc championship game then yeah reid might have made a mistake of 'epic proportions'
if they lose to the skins its cause mcnabb cant throw not cause they dont have TO...TO was instrumental in exactly one game this year and that was kc...its not like they TO is so great that hes lead the team to a 6-1 or 7-0 record...they are a crappy 4-3 for god sakes...TO really is carrying them boy
all thats besides the point anyway...it had to be done period..the franchise and its coach had become a laughing stock...enough is enough
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 05, 2005, 05:19:23 PM
Hello Dink & Dunk offense, baby
because of the hernia it was all dink and dunk anyway...the difference is they dont have a yac guy now
oh well they werent going anywhere anyway...ill take a w tommorow nite...and a draft pick that comes before 5pm this year
I'll just say this town is going to get ugly, considering how important this game is. Andy potentially made a mistake of epic proportions
lolol @ epic proportions....hyperbolize much????...if this were the the week before the nfc championship game then yeah reid might have made a mistake of 'epic proportions'
if they lose to the skins its cause mcnabb cant throw not cause they dont have TO...TO was instrumental in exactly one game this year and that was kc...its not like they TO is so great that hes lead the team to a 6-1 or 7-0 record...they are a crappy 4-3 for god sakes...TO really is carrying them boy
all thats besides the point anyway...it had to be done period..the franchise and its coach had become a laughing stock...enough is enough
We don't beat the Chargers without TO either. We win 20-17 and TO had a TD. Also we don't even beat the Raiders. TO caught a TD and had like 4 or 5 HUGE catches in the final drive.
This team is 2-5 without TO.
Can Reggie step up?
Can L.J stop fumbling the goddamn ball?
Will Big Red call more than 20 runs?
Can Billy Mac step up?
Tune in to As The Eagles Turn tomorrow night at 8:30pm.
By the way....how tight would it be if Darnerian McCants score a couple times against his old boys tomorrow?
Inky's headline Monday:
Trotter & McCants Lead Eagles To Win In DC...
Perfect time for McCants to step up ;D
i know its stating the obvious...but good god their wr's are so pathetically awful without TO...ha
Quote from: PhillyGirl on November 05, 2005, 04:28:09 PM
That's because I picked GLew with the final pick in my draft.
SUCKAS!
Actually, the way the Summer was going, GLew was a good pick then, too. I don't necessarily expect much out of Reggie Brown tomorrow night, but if this ends up being an extended suspension (e.g., 9 more games), he could turn into a late bloomer.
If not, I'll end up dropping him in two weeks and looking for that week's Ernest Wilford. ;)
WAR REGGIE!
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on November 05, 2005, 05:25:24 PM
Can Reggie step up?
Can L.J stop fumbling the goddamn ball?
Will Big Red call more than 20 runs?
Can Billy Mac step up?
Tune in to As The Eagles Turn tomorrow night at 8:30pm.
By the way....how tight would it be if Darnerian McCants score a couple times against his old boys tomorrow?
Inky's headline Monday:
Trotter & McCants Lead Eagles To Win In DC...
Or "McCants get enough of ya" and a shot of McCants dotting the i's in the back of the end zone for a TD.
Quote from: TO is GOD on November 05, 2005, 05:22:44 PM
We don't beat the Chargers without TO either. We win 20-17 and TO had a TD. Also we don't even beat the Raiders. TO caught a TD and had like 4 or 5 HUGE catches in the final drive.
This team is 2-5 without TO.
You can't say that for certain. A team without TO doesn't play the exact same way only without one player's stats included in the box score. It changes the gameplan and changes the gameplan of the defense as well. McNabb reads the receivers differently. Coverage is different. The playcalls are different. The locker room environment and media pressures are different.
Losing a player as good as TO has to have a detrimental effect overall, but I don't think you can point to specific games this season and say "Yup, without TO we would have lost that game." Because the entire game would have played out differently.
All fo you idiots who are claiming that the season is over, or that AR is throwing in the towel are farging retarded. Did you all just start watching this team after they signed TO? They functioned just fine without him before and will finction just fine without him now. The offense won't have that constant big play potential on the outside but they'll get it done. You all need to recognize that this is a good thing. For lots of reasons. And a bad thing for no reasons.
SIGN MITCHELL! >:D
Quote from: Geowhizzer on November 05, 2005, 06:12:47 PM
SIGN MITCHELL!
Careful with the sarcasm... it's a possibility.
Quote from: TO is GOD on November 05, 2005, 05:04:41 PM
Of course you can't, but if the Eagles go out and look like the 2003 NFCCG, then what kinda message does that say to the fans? This is either going to go really well or REALLY bad. I mean if our receivers just get pushed around and can't get open all night, it's going to be a flat out disaster.
how about the 2004 NFCCG...also without TO.
TO went too far, Reid set rules for this team, a player breaks them, they pay the consequences. would you like it if one of your co-workers went to the other side of your office and told everyone how great he was at his job, but also how a you are doing a crappy job?
Quote from: TO is GOD on November 05, 2005, 05:13:26 PM
I'm not saying it isn't TO's fault. He probably does deserve to get suspended. However, if suspending him makes your team worse, then it isn't worth it. Will it make this team worse? We haven't found that out yet, and we will in about 27 hours. I think the Eagles are going to win the game even without TO, but if they don't then... :-D . I'll just say this town is going to get ugly, considering how important this game is. Andy potentially made a mistake of epic proportions.
I'm at the point where I could care less whether this makes the Eagles a better team or not. I don't care. I'm fed up with T.O. I've been able to look the other way when it comes to his stupid antics this year but I'm sick of it now. I don't want him back.
I understood him wanting more money. I supported him getting more money. I bit my tongue during the entire offseason. I defended him about his comments after the Super Bowl. I said "as long as he shows up on Sunday and performs, I don't care."
Well now I do care. He's an icehole and I don't want to see him back on this team. He's insulted his QB countless times and he's taken shots at the organization. And while both McNabb and the Eagles have not stooped to his childish level he continued to take shots at them. He had the entire city in the palm of his hands after the Super Bowl. He was in a position to have an even bigger year this year than he did last year. This team was poised to have a bigger year than last and it's because of him that the Eagles are struggling the way they are.
Yes, there are other issues on the team that need to be addressed as to why the team is underachieving but the bottom line is that TO was the catalyst in all of this. He's been nothing but a distraction since April. So to hell with him. I'm done with TO and hopefully the Eagles are too.
I agree, RJS. One of the negative developments with the offense with Owens in the past 18 months is that the Eagles rely too much on the big play, and not at all on ball control. I think this may be a nice return to more of a ball control offense out of necessity, which will be better for Donovan with his current ailments.
I don't think the Eagles' chances lessened at all if Owens sits for the rest of the year. They're just going to need to play differently; and, either way, their defense needs to STEP UP. Owens wasn't going to help with that side of the ball, anyway. If the defense doesn't play considerably better over the rest of the season, it's not going to much matter what the offense does.
You know, for all of you freaks that got suckered in to supporting TO through everything I'd like to give a nice hearty "I told you so." Good to see that some of you are coming over to the side of reason, even if it is after the fact.
Quote from: rjs246 on November 05, 2005, 06:25:12 PM
You know, for all of you freaks that got suckered in to supporting TO through everything I'd like to give a nice hearty "I told you so." Good to see that some of you are coming over to the side of reason, even if it is after the fact.
Have any you read the entire interview?? A lot of what he said was take totally out of context. I'm not saying he is innocent as he does enjoy taking stabs at the FO but the Favre comments were completely distorted.
Quote from: DoMeGood on November 05, 2005, 06:29:00 PM
Quote from: rjs246 on November 05, 2005, 06:25:12 PM
You know, for all of you freaks that got suckered in to supporting TO through everything I'd like to give a nice hearty "I told you so." Good to see that some of you are coming over to the side of reason, even if it is after the fact.
Have any you read the entire interview?? A lot of what he said was take totally out of context. I'm not saying he is innocent as he does enjoy taking stabs at the FO but the Favre comments were completely distorted.
Welcome to the board. Don't start with me. This is typical TO bullshtein and there are no two ways about it. Sure you can take a look at SOME of the things he said this ONE time and say maybe it was taken a little bit out of context. But for real, this is the straw that broke the camel's back. If this were an isolated incident maybe I would agree with you. But it obviously isn't and his ass needs to get kicked to the curb. I hope they fire rubber bullets at his back when they run him out of town.
If he's not with the Eagles next year, who do you guys think he'll be with?
I'm not sure about all that Sarge and rjs. TO is an ass, no doubt. But without him, the Eagles are worse. Before TO, we still had Pinkston to stretch the defenses, and we had a healthy McNabb. Add that we had a running game (by committee), and the team was in a completely different light than it is now.
Today, we have a short passinig game, and no running game. In short, an offense that can be controlled by almost any basic defensive scheme. With TO, at least the Eagles had a big-play player capable of a 91 yard TD after a 7 yard pass.
AR had to lay the law down, but we are worse off without TO than we were -- even with his stupid-ass mouth. If the suspension goes all season, I bet we end up 7-9 or 8-8. But, I think this is a warning shot across the bow, and TO will be back for MNF against Dallas.
I'm just pissed. I'm pissed that TO is a monkeybutt, and I'm pissed that the Eagles were put in a position to do what they had to do. There are no winners in this mess. None.
Maybe Torrance Small is available?
My hope is that the team will rally around this. They need a spark and hopefully they get it. Losing his numbers hurts the offense.
I hope we see 20 carries for Westbrook, 10 carries for Gordon and some good PA passing.
Quote from: rjs246 on November 05, 2005, 06:32:00 PM
Quote from: DoMeGood on November 05, 2005, 06:29:00 PM
Quote from: rjs246 on November 05, 2005, 06:25:12 PM
You know, for all of you freaks that got suckered in to supporting TO through everything I'd like to give a nice hearty "I told you so." Good to see that some of you are coming over to the side of reason, even if it is after the fact.
Have any you read the entire interview?? A lot of what he said was take totally out of context. I'm not saying he is innocent as he does enjoy taking stabs at the FO but the Favre comments were completely distorted.
Welcome to the board. Don't start with me. This is typical TO bullshtein and there are no two ways about it. Sure you can take a look at SOME of the things he said this ONE time and say maybe it was taken a little bit out of context. But for real, this is the straw that broke the camel's back. If this were an isolated incident maybe I would agree with you. But it obviously isn't and his ass needs to get kicked to the curb. I hope they fire rubber bullets at his back when they run him out of town.
Start with you? Ha. ha. As I said TO has a serious disconnect between his brain and mouth, but this was a setup by those a-holios at ESPN who were solely out for ratings.
Quote from: DemonchildrenOnTurf on November 05, 2005, 06:34:44 PM
Blah blah blah, reasonable concerns, blah blah blah
I see what you're saying, but I don't believe for a second that we don't have a running game. Westbrook and Gordon are more than capable, they just haven't been used at all or in the proper way.
Greg Lewis is fast enough to stretch the field and LJ is a legit threat in the middle. Brown and McMullen are more or less unknowns, but the tool are there for this offense to work. This move forces Reid to call a more balanced game on offense and that can do nothing but help. This is a 10-6 team without TO and while that doesn't reach any of our expectations, once they get in the playoffs, anything can happen.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on November 05, 2005, 06:35:54 PM
Maybe Torrance Small is available?
My hope is that the team will rally around this. They need a spark and hopefully they get it. Losing his numbers hurts the offense.
I hope we see 20 carries for Westbrook, 10 carries for Gordon and some good PA passing.
We can only hope. I hope Brown and McMullen come through...if they do then TO will be sitting a long time.
Greg Lewis is fast enough to stretch the field, but he doesn't have Pinkston's height. That's why we haven't really seen McNabb and Lewis connect on a deep ball yet this year. Andy might need to move Greg around now ala TO to free him up to make plays. Last year when he was in the slot he was getting open more for big plays.
L.J Smith does have the potential to control the middle of the field...provided he keeps the ball in his goddamn hands.
RJS...your newfound optimism scares me.
Quote from: DemonchildrenOnTurf on November 05, 2005, 06:34:44 PM
I'm not sure about all that Sarge and rjs. TO is an ass, no doubt. But without him, the Eagles are worse. Before TO, we still had Pinkston to stretch the defenses, and we had a healthy McNabb. Add that we had a running game (by committee), and the team was in a completely different light than it is now.
I don't think that the Eagles are 'worse' without him. I think the offense is more dynamic and has more big play potential but he hasn't made this team any better this year. I would still love to have his capability on the field. Don't get me wrong about that. I love what he's able to do on the field. I love what he brings to the team in terms of talent and ability. But I'm sick of him. I'm sick of everything about him off the field. And in my opinion he's no longer worth the effort. This team's been getting it's ass kicked with him on the field so it's not like he's making a huge difference. If this team were winning and playing well then it might be another story. But the bottom line is that this team is capable of getting their asses handed to them without TO as well. So save me the agony of having to endure more TO outbursts in the process.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on November 05, 2005, 06:42:52 PM
RJS...your newfound optimism scares me.
Now that TO is gone, I feel like a new man.
Quote from: DoMeGood on November 05, 2005, 06:29:00 PM
Quote from: rjs246 on November 05, 2005, 06:25:12 PM
You know, for all of you freaks that got suckered in to supporting TO through everything I'd like to give a nice hearty "I told you so." Good to see that some of you are coming over to the side of reason, even if it is after the fact.
Have any you read the entire interview?? A lot of what he said was take totally out of context. I'm not saying he is innocent as he does enjoy taking stabs at the FO but the Favre comments were completely distorted.
TO?? Is that you?!
Hey, at least you called me resonable. Well, sorta..
I hope they start using Gordon more, and using him to do what Westbrook hasn't been able/allowed to do so far this season. That was what Phanatic and I were talking about at the KC game when they gave the ball to Gordon a few times -- Andy needs to pop his head out, and use these guys as RUNNING BACKS that catch, not wide receivers that run.
rjs, I hope you are right about 10-6. I really do. But I don't see it without TO and a banged up QB. This stretch will tell the tale, that's for sure.
I knew it. How's it goin man? You gonna travel or do any interviews on your time off? How's that hot girlfriend of yours?
Quote from: Sgt PSN on November 05, 2005, 06:43:30 PM
But the bottom line is that this team is capable of getting their asses handed to them without TO as well.
And that's the farging scary part about all of this. They just aren't as good as they should be.
And where's Yeti to defend his punk-ass, anyway? Yeti saw this coming, knew he couldn't break the sponsorship, and moved his hairy ass the farg out of dodge to some decrepit, broken down shack soon to be covered under 9 feet of snow.
Chicken-shtein.....
Quote from: The Waco Kid on November 05, 2005, 06:47:38 PM
I knew it. How's it goin man? You gonna travel or do any interviews on your time off? How's that hot girlfriend of yours?
I AM WORKIN OUT IN MY DRIVEWAY. ME AND MIKE ARE TIGHT. SHE IS GOOD. NOT AS HOT AS PHLLYGIRL.
You are a fraud...i knew it!
Quote from: DemonchildrenOnTurf on November 05, 2005, 06:50:11 PM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on November 05, 2005, 06:43:30 PM
But the bottom line is that this team is capable of getting their asses handed to them without TO as well.
And that's the farging scary part about all of this. They just aren't as good as they should be.
And that's part of the reason why I'm fed up with him now. If he were being a jackass but the Eagles were still winning and playing well then I might have a different attitude about the whole thing. I might still be able to look the other way when he opens his mouth. When he showed up last year he brought a new attitude to the offense. They had a certain swagger about them. A confident swagger. And they just don't have it this year.......at all. And much of that is because of his antics. So to hell with him.
Quote from: Wingspan on November 05, 2005, 06:18:30 PM
Quote from: TO is GOD on November 05, 2005, 05:04:41 PM
Of course you can't, but if the Eagles go out and look like the 2003 NFCCG, then what kinda message does that say to the fans? This is either going to go really well or REALLY bad. I mean if our receivers just get pushed around and can't get open all night, it's going to be a flat out disaster.
how about the 2004 NFCCG...also without TO.
TO went too far, Reid set rules for this team, a player breaks them, they pay the consequences. would you like it if one of your co-workers went to the other side of your office and told everyone how great he was at his job, but also how a you are doing a crappy job?
True, but you can also say that the Falcons defense wasn't as good as the Panthers defense. What are our WRs gonna do against physical corners?
Quote from: TO is GOD on November 05, 2005, 07:01:54 PM
True, but you can also say that the Falcons defense wasn't as good as the Panthers defense. What are our WRs gonna do against physical corners?
Watch while LJ and BW tear up the middle of the field.
In addition to DGunn reporting that a deal is close between Westbrook and the Birds he also reported that....
TO will be filing a grievance with the NFLPA on Monday.
so RJS, what happens if TO is only suspended for the taterskins game and he plays the rest of the year after that?
Quote from: Sgt PSN on November 05, 2005, 06:21:48 PM
Quote from: TO is GOD on November 05, 2005, 05:13:26 PM
I'm not saying it isn't TO's fault. He probably does deserve to get suspended. However, if suspending him makes your team worse, then it isn't worth it. Will it make this team worse? We haven't found that out yet, and we will in about 27 hours. I think the Eagles are going to win the game even without TO, but if they don't then... :-D . I'll just say this town is going to get ugly, considering how important this game is. Andy potentially made a mistake of epic proportions.
I'm at the point where I could care less whether this makes the Eagles a better team or not. I don't care. I'm fed up with T.O. I've been able to look the other way when it comes to his stupid antics this year but I'm sick of it now. I don't want him back.
I understood him wanting more money. I supported him getting more money. I bit my tongue during the entire offseason. I defended him about his comments after the Super Bowl. I said "as long as he shows up on Sunday and performs, I don't care."
Well now I do care. He's an icehole and I don't want to see him back on this team. He's insulted his QB countless times and he's taken shots at the organization. And while both McNabb and the Eagles have not stooped to his childish level he continued to take shots at them. He had the entire city in the palm of his hands after the Super Bowl. He was in a position to have an even bigger year this year than he did last year. This team was poised to have a bigger year than last and it's because of him that the Eagles are struggling the way they are.
Yes, there are other issues on the team that need to be addressed as to why the team is underachieving but the bottom line is that TO was the catalyst in all of this. He's been nothing but a distraction since April. So to hell with him. I'm done with TO and hopefully the Eagles are too.
So basically, you put your own patience over the Eagles success? I know he's annoying, but you can't just put up with it for another few months? I mean let's be honest. If you didn't come on message boards or browse news websites then you wouldn't even have to listen to TO's yap. If you only followed them on sundays, then would it honestly bother you as much? The reason fans like us are tired of it is because we constantly follow and discuss the team. I'm just saying there are ways to avoid being annoyed by his comments, and that is to just block everything out until sunday. Then all you worry about is the stuff on the field.
yahoo sports poll. "Is Owens worth the hassle?" 77% said no with over 84000 votes.
TO is GOD voted 80,000 times.
I bet theres gonna be a halftime interview with TO.
that ought to be great... :sly
Quote from: thrillhouse on November 05, 2005, 07:44:10 PM
I bet theres gonna be a halftime interview with TO.
that ought to be great... :sly
I don't think there will be. Something tells me his publicist and agent are telling him to shut the farg up.
He'll probably be at the game...sitting next to me. :evil
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on November 05, 2005, 07:04:52 PM
In addition to DGunn reporting that a deal is close between Westbrook and the Birds he also reported that....
TO will be filing a grievance with the NFLPA on Monday.
i guess the point of his grievance is to make it a suspension WITH pay ???
Quote from: Larry on November 05, 2005, 07:47:29 PM
He'll probably be at the game...sitting next to me. :evil
He'll be at the Falcons game...wherever that may be.
Quote from: The Waco Kid on November 05, 2005, 07:48:40 PM
Quote from: Larry on November 05, 2005, 07:47:29 PM
He'll probably be at the game...sitting next to me. :evil
He'll be at the Falcons game...wherever that may be.
trade TO for vick....the birds will need a rb if they don't re-sign westbrook.
There are no good FAs out there next year. Randle El, Wayne, Givens. That's about it. We'll need to trade for someone to replace him. We got a lot of time to ponder it though. People can shake loose by the time march rolls along.
Quote from: TO is GOD on November 05, 2005, 07:57:20 PM
There are no good FAs out there next year. Randle El, Wayne, Givens. That's about it. We'll need to trade for someone to replace him. We got a lot of time to ponder it though. People can shake loose by the time march rolls along.
TO is GOD -- Put your bold prediction back in your signature block about TO being an Eagle in 06. That way we won't forget to merciless rip you about it.
It's no longer the case. Up until mid October I would've kept it, but not anymore. TO ruined the little chance he had. So looks like there won't be any ripping going on. Too bad. :'(
I must say TO you are a fargin idiot, just needed to get that off my chest, thanks for ruining a good thing you freakin moron. You are a grown man T.O. do me a favor and act like it, instead of acting like a spoiled little girl. I hope you have enjoyed poisoning your second team flag. Just remember wherever you go, eagle fans are all over and you will hear it from us. You did your best to get what you wanted :deion and you almost took this team over the edge in the process. I have never been so fired up to see the EAGLES kick some A$$, and now it will be without you.
Quote from: phillymic2000 on November 05, 2005, 08:10:16 PM
I must say TO you are a fargin idiot, just needed to get that off my chest, thanks for ruining a good thing you freakin moron. You are a grown man T.O. do me a favor and act like it, instead of acting like a spoiled little girl. I hope you have enjoyed poisoning your second team flag. Just remember wherever you go, eagle fans are all over and you will hear it from us. You did your best to get what you wanted :deion and you almost took this team over the edge in the process. I have never been so fired up to see the EAGLES kick some A$$, and now it will be without you.
DONT BE HATIN ME. FATMAN MADE ME MADZ.
Quote from: phillymic2000 on November 05, 2005, 08:10:16 PM
I must say TO you are a fargin idiot, just needed to get that off my chest, thanks for ruining a good thing you freakin moron.
I agree, what a dumbass. I hope he has to sit home and watch the Eagles win. I don't want to hear the crap that will come outta his mouth if we lose.
I don't think we are as good without TO, but I'm not forgetting the way we walked through the playoffs last year when he went down with the broken ankle. Greg Lewis really stepped his game up. I hope he does the same Sunday.
I didn't see this posted so....
QuoteHere is a transcription of Owens' remarks from his weekly radio show.
Interviewer: "T.O. You are in the media again. It's mushroomed a little bit. How are you doing today?"
Terrell Owens: "I'm doing good guys. First off, I want to ask you, could you guys just refer to me as Javier during this interview?"
I: "Javier?"
TO: "Yeah, Javier."
I: "Okay, is that your nickname, like Kobe [Bryant] wants a nickname? He wants to be known as mambo, the snake that strikes quickly. Javier."
TO: "Yeah, I've been submitted to the Witness Protection Program today."
I: "You're in hiding, and so you're Javier. What's your last name?" TO: "I don't have a last name, just Javier."
I: "Alright, just Javier. He's in witness protection. So, you apologized. I'm not even sure what you're apologizing for. Well we'll let him talk about it. You are apologizing for what today T.O?"
TO: "Honestly guys, I would say of all the interviews that I've done, this is probably one that I regret. And that's not to be spread at Graham [Bensinger], who did the interview. Number one, I guess I would say because of the timing of it. Then through all of those things, we're 4-3 and really that's not a reason for us to go into panic.
"Two, is because I just essentially agreed with the comments of Michael Irvin. And three, is because all I did was express my feelings to a question about my 100 TDs, which was a milestone set by only 5 other receivers in NFL history, which was brought to my attention. It was brought to my attention by people who submitted emails to my website about the situation. And even my publicist [Kim Etheridge], she recognized that it wasn't acknowledged.
"So, other than that I didn't even care about the 100 TDs, but it was brought to my attention and all I did was basically answer the question."
I: "Is it fair to say, T.O., that you simply can't help yourself when it comes to honesty? That if somebody asks you a question, you don't care how it sounds. You're going to tell people 100 % of the time what you think.
TO: "Basically it was just a simple question and I gave a simple answer. That's it. This is one that I really regret and I realize that I offended some of my teammates because the comments that were shown on ESPN, that wasn't the whole interview in its' entirety.
"Because I went on to say, before I agreed with the comment of Michael Irvin about Brett Favre, I said earlier that if Donovan wasn't hurt our record would probably be better. But nobody has the knowledge that I said that. Everybody is going by what ESPN is showing on TV. So that's why I feel like I probably regret it because of the timing of it, but I don't feel bad because I know what I said and that's not what the media is showing."
I: "An interesting admission by you though because the first time we had you on the show after all the stuff that happened this offseason, you didn't regret anything you said. You're not usually someone who regrets very much of what he does."
TO: "It's sad because I'm man enough to admit when I'm wrong and if I've done something wrong. But in this situation here I just feel like it's unfair. The media is taking shots at me for no apparent reason. All I did, honestly, was I answered the question that Graham directed at me, and it was just a mere agreement.
"All the other stuff, they're trying to pit me and Donovan against each other. And I said the same thing earlier in the interview, but nobody had shown it and nobody had said anything about it. The interview will be shown in its entirety I guess next week some time on ESPN.com. But like I said, I already said if Donovan wasn't hurt our record would be better."
I: "T.O, have you spoken to Donovan since you made the comment?"
TO: "No, I haven't. No, I haven't."
I: "Do you feel like you have to or should?"
TO: "They're trying to get me to apologize to him, but my thing is look, this was taken out of context. And I feel like the same transcript that I got this morning, that I read to Brian Dawkins when he came to me with the issue, you can read the same thing. Because I basically said the same thing a few seconds before I even answered the question about Michael Irvin's comment."
I: "What was the meeting like with Brian Dawkins? Was he bringing you the comment because the team was upset about it?"
TO: "Yeah, I think he was really upset about it too. Once he brought it to me, obviously he had seen the interview on TV this morning, so he was upset about it. And then once I showed him the transcript that was given to me, I said, Dawk look. I said the same thing up here. I said if Donovan wasn't hurt our record would be better.' And then he came, he was a bigger man and he apologized for that.
"But at the same time we discussed it and he was like I've got to realize that the media is going to take it and twist it and turn it how they want it to. So that's why, like I said, of all things I regret this interview, but I don't feel bad about giving my honest opinion about something, about a comment that I didn't even bring up."
I: "You respect Brian Dawkins, don't you?"
TO: "I do."
I: "And you appreciate the fact that if he's upset with you, he will come to you and get in your face about it if that's the case."
TO: "We were both men about it. I don't have a problem with him confronting me or we talking about it. I don't."
I: "Was it angry?"
TO: "I think it was more a conversation. Where is this coming from? What happened? He didn't know the entirety of the interview. He just saw what he saw on TV."
I: "We're with T.O here&"
TO: "Javier, Javier."
I: "Javier, excuse me. Javier, no last name. He's in witness protection because he regrets what happened or the timing of what happened and a variety of things that happened with this interview. You've got to stick to this radio show T.O. is what it is. If you go on other outlets you get in all sorts of trouble."
TO: "You're exactly right. I just got to stick to my guns. The only reason that I did that interview with the guy, the kid, Graham Bensinger, is because here is a guy that I met while I was in San Francisco, earlier. He was in school and we talked. We began a phone relationship and he's interviewed me before when I was out there. And so, I just felt compelled to grant him the interview. I felt it was harmless.
"I just felt like what I said was harmless, but the media I feel is taking shots. They're taking bits and pieces of the whole interview out of context. They're just trying to make me out to be the bad guy. I don't have a problem with it. I just take it and go with it."
I: "What has Andy Reid said to you Javier?"
TO: "Basically he wanted me to issue an apology at the press conference and I had no problem with that. And that's what I did. Other than that, I felt like I did what I had to do. If I didn't really feel like I had to apologize, than I wouldn't have done it. But, I believe the apology was mainly [done] because he felt like I lashed out against the organization regarding the 100th TD thing.
"But on top of that, I went on to mention, okay, well if he's upset about that, what about this summer when Joe Banner went on the air, and he's on record, listen, he called me and Drew [Rosenhaus] an idiot. So what's the difference?"
I: "Good point. T.O, there are rumors swirling that you might get suspended. Do you expect to be suspended?"
TO: "Hey, if I am, I am. That'd be a discredit to the team and obviously it will hurt the team. But, if I am it would be a sad situation. Those guys will do the best they can to try and win the game and I'll be behind those guys 100 %."
I: "Have you gotten any indication that that might happen, other than the rumors?"
TO: "No. As of right now nothing's happened. Unless anything transpires from now until tomorrow morning once I get to the facility."
I: "Is this the first time since you've been with the Eagles where a teammate has come to you and objected to something you've said or done. I know Hugh Douglas went on the airwaves and said some things, but is this the first time that that's happened there?"
TO: "Yeah, I think so. He had every reason to. Just driving to practice this morning, I didn't know what was going on, but once I got there I kind of sensed that something was going on. I went in for treatment and Rick [Burkholder] told me something about what was said on the news because I didn't see it. I didn't see the interview last night. And once I got into the treatment room, Dawkins and I, he pulled me to the side and we talked it out."
I: "What would you say that you regret the most, TO? Is it the fact that you didn't know that the Philadelphia Eagles do not do individual things to celebrate achievements? What would be the thing that you regret most?"
TO: "I would say the timing of the interview, and just probably the misconception that everybody is getting from the interview because of how the media is portraying it."
Quote from: MURP on November 05, 2005, 07:07:46 PM
so RJS, what happens if TO is only suspended for the taterskins game and he plays the rest of the year after that?
IF that happens, I'll stick by my guns, unlike some spineless twats. This team is better off without him. On and off the field.
Clayton's reporting he's suspended for the season:
Quotehttp://On ESPN News John Clayton just said the Eagles have told Owens he is suspended for the year. They suspended him with pay so they can work out an agreement .
Clayton stated that he was told by Managment that Owens will not play again for the Eagles again this season or any. They just want to move on without him.
They suspended him with pay so they can work out a financial aggrement so he can go to another team after the season.
Well, I keep missing all the drama this year. Damn job is interfering with my Eagles enjoyment. :-\ Well, well, well... more drama as the Eagle turns. Who would have expected this coming into the year, huh? Sunday night should be an interesting one. I still think the Eagles can win if the offense plays well, but that's been so much of a crap shoot this year who knows. TO hasn't helped sure up the Defense (which has been as big a problem as the offense) so farg him, let him sit. I just want this year to hurry up and conclude because I'm damn curious to see what moves the team makes in the offseason to fix this royal clusterfarg they have going on.
For the season...that's a little extensive. I would hope not. But if so, then so be it. If they lose to the Skins tomorrow and the Girls and Gints after that, then the season is over anyway.
we need michael timpson back
Quote from: SD_Eagle on November 05, 2005, 09:06:44 PM
Clayton's reporting he's suspended for the season:
Quotehttp://On ESPN News John Clayton just said the Eagles have told Owens he is suspended for the year. They suspended him with pay so they can work out an agreement .
Clayton stated that he was told by Managment that Owens will not play again for the Eagles again this season or any. They just want to move on without him.
They suspended him with pay so they can work out a financial aggrement so he can go to another team after the season.
Wow, they really want his ass gone. Oh well, he's a great player but a complete headcase. The FO rolled the dice and lost on this one.
In '03, I said no to TO on the EMB (hadn't found this site yet). Of course, after his first game, I started buying in, he played the good citizen and was ridiculous on the field.
In this off-season, I've been a big critic, saying he'd dog it, which I still believe he did. Suspension is only enough if it's by the neck from the Walt Whitman.
all this TO nonsense is taking away from the hate for the taterskins. what a shame.
art is gay
If he's suspended for the season, I think the Eagles went overboard. There has to be more to this story -- something went on or was said behind the scenes that AR can't or won't get over. There's no way the interview and crappy apology alone warrents this action.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on November 05, 2005, 09:06:44 PM
Clayton's reporting he's suspended for the season:
Quotehttp://On ESPN News John Clayton just said the Eagles have told Owens he is suspended for the year. They suspended him with pay so they can work out an agreement .
Clayton stated that he was told by Managment that Owens will not play again for the Eagles again this season or any. They just want to move on without him.
They suspended him with pay so they can work out a financial aggrement so he can go to another team after the season.
is this true or just gossip from the net?
ESPN has said nothing about this other than "indefinitely".
SD, where did you get that little blurb?
I am bummed the farg out. The whole season. Damn.
Quote from: DemonchildrenOnTurf on November 05, 2005, 09:37:05 PM
I am bummed the farg out. The whole season. Damn.
Lets wait to see how accurate that is. ESPN News says nothing of the sort, neither does CSN.
I still want to know where SD Eagle got that blurb from.
You know what the problem with avoiding the news is? Even after skimming all the useless crap here, I don't know what the hell happened. Seriously, what happened?
Quote from: PhillyGirl on November 05, 2005, 09:29:55 PM
ESPN has said nothing about this other than "indefinitely".
SD, where did you get that little blurb?
From here :-D :-D :-D (http://boards.giants.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=71682)
HATE ME NOW!!!
You should know better than to post something like that on here, SD. ::)
Had ESPN on all night and CSN (flipping back and forth from the VaTech game and the FLyers game) and not one thing like that was said. If Clayton had said that, it would be on ESPN News, don't you think? Especially since he said this an hour or so ago according to that poster.
Yes, but since they didn't say it that must mean that it's actually true. :D
Quote from: General_Failure on November 05, 2005, 09:53:45 PM
Yes, but since they didn't say it that must mean that it's actually true. :D
LOL
If lightbulbhead had said it, it would have already been on ESPN News. Regardless of what he said being true or not, had he said it at all, it would have been on the site/ESPN News by now.
Quote from: MURP on November 05, 2005, 09:25:51 PM
all this TO nonsense is taking away from the hate for the taterskins. what a shame.
Dear god! Tha man is right!
THe best part about this is that delusional Skins fans are orgasming themselves to sleep tonight thinking that they have a chance. No dice, bitches.
Hasn't taken away from my hatred.
NOthing can make me hate the Skins less.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on November 05, 2005, 09:50:32 PM
You should know better than to post something like that on here, SD. ::)
I LUV ME SUM ME!! ;D
I can't believe nobody is upset with the hatchet job ESPN did with that interview. That is F'in pathetic. PATHETIC.
Quote from: DoMeGood on November 05, 2005, 10:56:12 PM
I can't believe nobody is upset with the hatchet job ESPN did with that interview. That is F'in pathetic. PATHETIC.
Because its expected. Nothing is shocking anymore.
Really? That's sad for society that we have come to expect so little from supposed news reporters and journalists.
Quote from: DoMeGood on November 05, 2005, 11:06:20 PM
Really? That's sad for society that we have come to expect so little from supposed new reporters and journalists.
Do you forget how they butchered the coverage of when TO was coming to philly?
I don't watch sportcenter or any ESPN news programming. I do on occassion listen to a couple of their radio shows, but this is maddening. They ripped apart his statements to make him look completely stupid and idiotic...and the dude doesn't need any help. If you take them within the context of the interview and questioning it was pretty obvious the intent was to get inflammatory remarks from TO and then butcher them into something news worthy.
they didnt butcher anything...they played mostly the negative stuff on air...but they didnt in anyway change what TO said...
btw its all starting to come out as far as how much negative impact TO had in the lockeroom...suzy kolber just reported that brian westbrrok told her that it was a locker room divided...trotter and dawk both said what reid did lifted a huge weight off the team...i had said all along this kind of stuff would pour out of the locker room at the end of the year...guess its happening sooner...sounds as if theres no possible way TO can make his way back in this locer room again
Quote from: DoMeGood on November 05, 2005, 11:06:20 PM
Really? That's sad for society that we have come to expect so little from supposed news reporters and journalists.
isnt "ESPN" short for Entertainment & Sports Network?
if so, no mention of news in the title. nor should they ever be relied upon for news.
i very rarely post here, but i've been reading A LOT on here lately and had to get shtein off my chest...
TO IS GOD (and the rest of the delusional TO apologists), you really don't understand football. i'm sorry. you just don't.
TO completely wrecked this team's chemistry and created division and mistrust that was affecting the team's cohesiveness. TO destroyed the team's ability to function as ONE unit. football is rarely won with talent alone. the teams that succeed do so because they're able to move as one unit. It's obvious to everyone but you that TO was totally ruining the team's esprit de corps. The team has to come first, and without TO, the team will play better.
To use the war analogy, TO is like the foot soldier that breaks rank. he may look glorious on the battlefield at times, but leaves everyone else around him vulnerable.
You have no clue what you are talking about. You have NO PROOF, NONE that TO wrecked the chemistry of the team. Yes, the team is playing poorly, but that could be for a number of reasons. So you have NO PROOF.
The only proof is that TO puts up great numbers, catches like 5 times the TDs, yards and catches of every receiver we have combined, and is a major weapon.
So I have proof and facts, and you bring simply speculation.
I win.
Neither of you wins. Do I really need to tell you why?
Quote from: TO is GOD on November 06, 2005, 12:15:55 AM
The only proof is that TO puts up great numbers, catches like 5 times the TDs, yards and catches of every receiver we have combined, and is a major weapon.
So I have proof and facts, and you bring simply speculation.
I win.
go here and look at the most sophisticated statistical measure in existence of a WR's value to his team...
http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/wr.php
TO is the 13th-best WR in the league this year, according to footballoutsiders. look who are higher... santana moss and terry glenn. so does that mean the eagles automatically lose to the foreskins and cowgirls? what part of "The team with the most talented WR doesn't automatically win every week" don't you understand?
i cant wait to see what skip bayless has to say about this.
Quote from: joel in providence on November 06, 2005, 12:38:19 AM
Quote from: TO is GOD on November 06, 2005, 12:15:55 AM
The only proof is that TO puts up great numbers, catches like 5 times the TDs, yards and catches of every receiver we have combined, and is a major weapon.
So I have proof and facts, and you bring simply speculation.
I win.
go here and look at the most sophisticated statistical measure in existence of a WR's value to his team...
http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/wr.php
TO is the 13th-best WR in the league this year, according to footballoutsiders. look who are higher... santana moss and terry glenn. so does that mean the eagles automatically lose to the foreskins and cowgirls? what part of "The team with the most talented WR doesn't automatically win every week" don't you understand?
The team with the most talented WR doesn't automatically win, but rather a team with a great WR is better than the same team without one.
That's totally why we smoked the Patriots in the Superbowl. High five, buddy!
you may as well change your name to "GOD GOT SUSPENDED"
http://washingtontimes.com/sports/20051106-124406-7255r.htm
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/11/05/AR2005110501553.html
Quote from: General_Failure on November 06, 2005, 01:20:57 AM
That's totally why we smoked the Patriots in the Superbowl. High five, buddy!
You misread. I meant our current team is worse without TO than with him. In the same token, the Pats would be better with TO than without him. If you put TO on the Pats then they are better than they are right now.
Fact checking at the Washington Times is super.
Quote from: WEST is GOD on November 06, 2005, 01:57:12 AM
In the same token, the Pats would be better with TO than without him. If you put TO on the Pats then they are better than they are right now.
you're insane. clearly.
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 05, 2005, 11:21:34 PM
they didnt butcher anything...they played mostly the negative stuff on air...but they didnt in anyway change what TO said...
btw its all starting to come out as far as how much negative impact TO had in the lockeroom...suzy kolber just reported that brian westbrrok told her that it was a locker room divided...trotter and dawk both said what reid did lifted a huge weight off the team...i had said all along this kind of stuff would pour out of the locker room at the end of the year...guess its happening sooner...sounds as if theres no possible way TO can make his way back in this locer room again
Wow...no shtein? Where'd Kolber get the info though?
Maybe I underestimated the locker room effect.
Hopefully they do rally around AR & Donny Mac then.
Quote from: DoMeGood on November 05, 2005, 10:56:12 PM
I can't believe nobody is upset with the hatchet job ESPN did with that interview. That is F'in pathetic. PATHETIC.
It is pathetic but it's also the norm for the industry so it's not surprising at all. They are in the business of generating ratings and ratings are generated by creative editing and half truths. Sure, I'd love them to stop doing that crap and just report the entire story but that'll never happen. Now if TO were able to keep his mouth shut and decline an interview every now and then (especially knowing that they media is just looking for an excuse to burn him then maybe he needs to stop giving them soundbytes to work with. But no, we can't expect that prima dona to do something logical, especially when it involves him being in front of a camera.
Unless a team is willing to make TO the absolute centerpiece of their offense (which the Eagles damn near did except for McNabb being here), and allow this guy to do what he damn well pleases, then he will never be content. There is no real way to please him and have a balanced and harmonius team.
We knew, the Eagles knew, and Andy Reid knew going in, that Terrell Owens was a petulent child. He is selfish, disruptive, and amazingly gifted as an athlete, among the best ever as a Wide Reciever. It's a package you assessed and wanted anyway. We bought the Hummer and are fed up at the cost of gas. Yeah he said he'd be good. But alot of bad kids promise to be good until they get what they want. Anyway, this is TO. He didn't hold a press conference to say these things, an ESPN interviewer spoon fed those words into his mouth, and he swallowed.
They are punishing TO for being TO. Shame on them for being suprised that he would grow louder as this season grew shorter. Don't get me wrong, he deserves to be suspended, but it should have been resolved in the offseason. Pay him or get rid of him. Don't expect him to sit down and shut up. He childish, self centered, and disruptive. And what didn't we already know? The question is how did this team get in this position. It is not all TO's fault. Bottom line, if this is such a problem, good, its taken care of. Let's move on and show me how this team is gonna come together and get back to the SuperBowl. Because when push comes to shove, I am an Eagles fan first, and long after TO is gone, it is the team that will matter.
BTW, if it hasn't been mentioned, if TO is suspended for "conduct detrimental to the team" it is in his contract that the Eagles can seek a portion of his signing bonus back. According to Burger King ....
Screamin' A has said this isn't Owens' fault, its the Eagles fault.
:-D
So, T.O. is suspended, huh guys?
;D
Quote from: WEST is GOD on November 06, 2005, 12:15:55 AM
You have no clue what you are talking about. You have NO PROOF, NONE that TO wrecked the chemistry of the team. Yes, the team is playing poorly, but that could be for a number of reasons. So you have NO PROOF.
The only proof is that TO puts up great numbers, catches like 5 times the TDs, yards and catches of every receiver we have combined, and is a major weapon.
So I have proof and facts, and you bring simply speculation.
I win.
Right. He has no proof. Other than the testimony of TO's (former) teammates. Tons of circumstantial evidence and common sense that would tell ANYONE who has ever played any team sport that TO's attitude was destroying the team's chemistry. You need to farging screw your head on straight. This team is and will be better without TO. Count on it. Dipshtein.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on November 06, 2005, 09:00:42 AM
Screamin' A has said this isn't Owens' fault, its the Eagles fault.
:-D
He's not 100% incorrect...as Owens couldn't suspend himself, he needed the Eagles help. ;)
Quote from: jeffreyjpa on November 06, 2005, 09:05:10 AM
Quote from: PhillyGirl on November 06, 2005, 09:00:42 AM
Screamin' A has said this isn't Owens' fault, its the Eagles fault.
:-D
He's not 100% incorrect...as Owens couldn't suspend himself, he needed the Eagles help. ;)
LOL, good point.
sa clearly said TO should get no sympathy and nothing hes done is to be defended but this particular incident never would have happened had the eagle players and/or their front office taken action when they should have...instead what they did was nothing and are where they are today because of their inaction
say what you want about sa but this article was on point like a needle
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 06, 2005, 09:31:40 AM
sa clearly said TO should get no sympathy and nothing hes done is to be defended but this particular incident never would have happened had the eagle players and/or their front office taken action when they should have...instead what they did was nothing and where are where we are today because of their inaction
say what you want about sa but this article was on point like a needle
So, what was the action the players and/or team should have taken?
Quote from: Geowhizzer on November 06, 2005, 09:35:35 AM
So, what was the action the players and/or team should have taken?
They should have suspended him before the season, after they sent him home and he made a fool out of himself in front of the team. They should have benched him after he screamed at Andy Reid last week. Trotter and Dawkins should have pile driven his ass into a bonfire. McNabb should have shot him in the face. Westbrook should have murdered his relatives. The chick from
Audition should have shoved needles into his eyeballs.
There was a lot that should have been done.
Quote from: rjs246 on November 06, 2005, 09:37:49 AM
Quote from: Geowhizzer on November 06, 2005, 09:35:35 AM
So, what was the action the players and/or team should have taken?
They should have suspended him before the season, after they sent him home and he made a fool out of himself in front of the team. They should have benched him after he screamed at Andy Reid last week. Trotter and Dawkins should have pile driven his ass into a bonfire. McNabb should have shot him in the face. Westbrook should have murdered his relatives. The chick from Audition should have shoved needles into his eyeballs.
There was a lot that should have been done.
I don't disagree- he should have been gone before the season (I believe, if you searched back far enough, that I posted something of that sort in August. If you're as lazy as I, though, we'll never find out).
I thought it was your job to set him ablaze, RJS. You dropped the ball.
And what in the world is Audition? Never heard of it.
what rj said
after the first incident someone should have punched him in his face and said talk shtein again and youre finished here...youre gonna communicate with your qb youre going to be a part of this team 100% or you arent going to be a part of it at all...the crap about well he doesnt have to be part of us as long as he performs on the field was ridiculous...hello dumbasses they go together
thats the problem with TO no one has ever stood up whether in san fran or here...like i said yesterday this garbage would not have gone on in places like baltimore new england or dallas...places that have players and coaches who are leaders
this goes to the larger problem of andy reids leadership...his lack of fire...his robotic like personality...his everything will tajke care of itself outlook...well you know what everything doesnt always take care of itself...sometimes people gotta take care of things
hatchet job or not by ESPN, TO said things that were out of line.
1. talking about the waiver,
again. QuoteTO: Well, like I said, I know there was a waiver that we talked about. Obviously, they're saying they have no knowledge of it. So, it's not something phantom that I've made up. So, if they're saying that just to save face, then you know, that's what they have to live with.
GB: Why do you think they have to deny it?
TO: Not sure, not sure. But why would I openly say that I signed a waiver? Because it would have released them of any reliability, had I gotten hurt in the Super Bowl, because number one, the doctor didn't medically clear me. So, if anything would have happened, they wouldn't have been responsible for it.
2. Talking about another QB playing for the Eagles and having a better record. Cleary saying that Favre is something that McNabb isnt.. True or not, he was told to keep DMAC out of his media nonsense.
QuoteGB: Your friend Michael Irvin recently said that if Brett Favre was the starting quarterback for the Philadelphia Eagles, they'd be undefeated right now. What do you think of that comment?
TO: I mean, that's a good assessment, I would agree with that.
GB: How so?
TO: I just feel like just what he brings to the table ... I mean he's the guy. Obviously, a number of commentators will say he's a warrior. He has played with injuries. I just feel like (with) him being knowledgeable about the quarterback position, I just feel like we'd be in a better situation
3. The need for individual recognition on his 100th TD.
QuoteTO: Probably just like the statement that I said a while ago: If you align expectations with reality, you will never be disappointed. You know, their reaction shows you the type of class and integrity of an organization that they claim not to be. You know, they claim to be first class and the best organization. I just felt like it was an embarrassment. It just shows the lack of class that they had. My publicist talked to the head PR guy, and he made an excuse about (how) they didn't recognize it, or they didn't realize that it was coming up. But I know that was a blatant lie. If it would have been somebody else, they probably would have popped fireworks around the stadium. ...
Those are the exact quotes from TO. ESPN didnt even need to edit it to sound bad, TO already had said enough to shoot himself in the head.
Eagles | Owens had a Fight with Douglas
Sun, 6 Nov 2005 06:31:31 -0800
Mark Eckel, of the Trenton Times, reports Philadelphia Eagles WR Terrell Owens had a fistfight with former defensive end and current team ambassador Hugh Douglas. The fight occurred in front of several of his teammates. According to one of the sources the Owens-Douglas fight "was like WWE Smackdown." Another source said both men threw at least two punches during the altercation and when it was over Owens challenged QB Donovan McNabb first and then everyone else in the room saying, "You want some. Anyone else want some." The Eagles refused to comment about the situation, other than the statement that revealed Owens' suspension. Owens and Douglas have been at odds since training camp and almost got into an altercation in an elevator at Lehigh University.
http://www.kffl.com/hotw/nfl
Terrell Davis was on NFL Total Access this morning agreeing with rjs, saying the Eagles are better off without TO, and will be fine.
I'm not gonna pretent to know, I just want to beat the Skins, Giants, and Cowboys. If we do that, then I'll say were better of without him.
TO is one of the dumbest, stupidest, egomaniacs I've ever seen. Last year was almost a dream come true. But then came a contract dispute, and the whole deal went to shtein. No true proffesional talks dollars out loud in any field.
I'm listening right now to NFL Total Access and HE is saying that McNabbs name was in the apology, and was shown to Eagles officials before said it, then left Dmacs name out. He's also saying he'll never, ever, ever play for the Eagles again.
What a dumb farg, he could have had it all, and he pissed all over it. You give me that mans talent and I'd have the city of Philly eating out of my hand.
Quote from: shorebird on November 06, 2005, 10:31:43 AM
I'm listening right now to NFL Total Access and HE is saying that McNabbs name was in the apology, and was shown to Eagles officials before said it, then left Dmacs name out. He's also saying he'll never, ever, ever play for the Eagles again.
This was said PAGES ago.
Quote from: Bigskinbauer on November 06, 2005, 10:30:30 AM
Eagles | Owens had a Fight with Douglas
Sun, 6 Nov 2005 06:31:31 -0800
Mark Eckel, of the Trenton Times, reports Philadelphia Eagles WR Terrell Owens had a fistfight with former defensive end and current team ambassador Hugh Douglas. The fight occurred in front of several of his teammates. According to one of the sources the Owens-Douglas fight "was like WWE Smackdown." Another source said both men threw at least two punches during the altercation and when it was over Owens challenged QB Donovan McNabb first and then everyone else in the room saying, "You want some. Anyone else want some." The Eagles refused to comment about the situation, other than the statement that revealed Owens' suspension. Owens and Douglas have been at odds since training camp and almost got into an altercation in an elevator at Lehigh University.
http://www.kffl.com/hotw/nfl
Man, thats it. farg that icehole. I feel like a fool for trying to defend that DMF.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on November 06, 2005, 10:32:41 AM
Quote from: shorebird on November 06, 2005, 10:31:43 AM
I'm listening right now to NFL Total Access and HE is saying that McNabbs name was in the apology, and was shown to Eagles officials before said it, then left Dmacs name out. He's also saying he'll never, ever, ever play for the Eagles again.
This was said PAGES ago.
Well, I just heard HE say it, so there. :P
reading on some sites on the net it seems that a problem could be that TO can only be suspended 4 games for conduct detrimental to the team. Wonder what Reid is going to do about that.
Quote from: MURP on November 06, 2005, 10:35:34 AM
reading on some sites on the net it seems that a problem could be that TO can only be suspended 4 games for conduct detrimental to the team. Wonder what Reid is going to do about that.
i heard they could have two counts for conduct detrimental to the team so they can give him two 4 game suspensions. That is what i heard but i am sure getting in fist fights holds atleast a couple games
Quote from: MURP on November 06, 2005, 10:35:34 AM
reading on some sites on the net it seems that a problem could be that TO can only be suspended 4 games for conduct detrimental to the team. Wonder what Reid is going to do about that.
I don't see how he can come back. They might not have any choice but to eat the contract and release him.
suspend him for the 4 games
Then Keyshawn his ass the rest of the season.
Thats my guess at least.
And Kolber said that Reid said he could not talk about the decision due to "leaglities" so maybe they're going to use that fight with Hugh as ammo to get him gone.
Agreed, MURP...they very well may have edited it because the rest of his interview was probably uniteresting BS, more self-promotion, and whining. When you're already on double-secret probation, as TO has been since the letter detailing what he could and couldn't do, you can't say the following under any circumstances:
QuoteTO: I just feel like just what he brings to the table ... I mean he's the guy. Obviously, a number of commentators will say he's a warrior. He has played with injuries. I just feel like (with) him being knowledgeable about the quarterback position, I just feel like we'd be in a better situation
Translation: I don't like what Donovan brings to the table. Donovan is not a warrior, and cannot play well with injuries. Donovan is not knowledagable enough as a QB.QuoteTO: Probably just like the statement that I said a while ago: If you align expectations with reality, you will never be disappointed. You know, their reaction shows you the type of class and integrity of an organization that they claim not to be. You know, they claim to be first class and the best organization. I just felt like it was an embarrassment. It just shows the lack of class that they had. My publicist talked to the head PR guy, and he made an excuse about (how) they didn't recognize it, or they didn't realize that it was coming up. But I know that was a blatant lie. If it would have been somebody else, they probably would have popped fireworks around the stadium. ...
Translation: Wah, wah, wah...I haven't been verbally felated by my team to the media at all this season!Guess what, dumbass...when you do nothing but be a pain-in-the-ass to management and rip on your teammates, they're less likely to throw a carnival in your honor during the game when you reach a milestone. I can't believe anyone--fan or media--seriously believe the Eagles should've made a bigger deal of his 100th reception, the majority of which were caught while playing for other teams. We're not talking about Walter Payton here.
Quote from: shorebird on November 06, 2005, 10:34:16 AM
Man, thats it. farg that icehole. I feel like a fool for trying to defend that DMF.
Welcome to the party. There might be some warm Bud Light's left in the kitchen.
Quote from: rjs246 on November 06, 2005, 10:40:37 AM
Quote from: shorebird on November 06, 2005, 10:34:16 AM
Man, thats it. farg that icehole. I feel like a fool for trying to defend that DMF.
Welcome to the party. There might be some warm Bud Light's left in the kitchen.
Right now I wish I'd have been there with Hugh when that prick was asking if anyone else wanted any. I'd have loved a chance to hit that MF.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on November 06, 2005, 10:37:56 AM
suspend him for the 4 games [without pay, if the union will allow]
Then Keyshawn his ass the rest of the season. [unfortunatley, probably still need to pay him, but will keep his ass off the sideline or in the lockerroom]
Thats my guess at least.
And Kolber said that Reid said he could not talk about the decision due to "leaglities" so maybe they're going to use that fight with Hugh as ammo to get him gone.
This is what I'd do if I were the FO, Phreak...especially if the Owens/Douglas fight report is true. Can't they also still go back after some of his original signing bonus? I'd go after it all, like a vindictive ex-wife.
Man, I'm just so pissed right now, I hope the Eagles stick it to him anyway they possibly can.
Way to farg up a good thing you DMF'ing icehole.
In the least 30 minutes I've gone from "I can't believe it has all come to this" to "Get the farg out TO. And here's hoping he never gets to strap on another uniform in the NFL."
I'm late to the party, and I see the error of my ways. rjs, will you mock me please? I need penance.
Quote from: rjs246 on November 06, 2005, 10:40:37 AM
Welcome to the party. There might be some warm Bud Light's left in the kitchen.
You're a little late, but come on in. Sorry, we drank all the Guinness long ago.
Quote from: jeffreyjpa on November 06, 2005, 10:47:08 AM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on November 06, 2005, 10:37:56 AM
suspend him for the 4 games [without pay, if the union will allow]
Then Keyshawn his ass the rest of the season. [unfortunatley, probably still need to pay him, but will keep his ass off the sideline or in the lockerroom]
Thats my guess at least.
And Kolber said that Reid said he could not talk about the decision due to "leaglities" so maybe they're going to use that fight with Hugh as ammo to get him gone.
This is what I'd do if I were the FO, Phreak...especially if the Owens/Douglas fight report is true. Can't they also still go back after some of his original signing bonus? I'd go after it all, like a vindictive ex-wife.
I agree. As late as Thursday I was against this. But like Demon, I agree with it now.
Its best for the team for him to be gone.
Might have already been posted, but the ESPN "experts" (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2214874) are loving this move.
Merrill Hoge being considered an expert on anything makes me want to shoot him.
Notice how Hoge's column has an "I told you so" feel to it. Damn douche, he's always trying to rip the Eagles, even subtly.
wow i saw this last night on espn...i could of shtein myself. i was ignoring the current drama with Owens, but getting into a fight with Hugh is just wrong. Good job by the Eagles for suspending him for good. I never thought I would say this, but it was a huge mistake to get TO. I guess character really does go along way in sports, can't just be all talent. still disappointing because he is such a playmaker, and he def. helped us out on the field. some slack jawed desparate franchise will pick him up next year.
Quote from: mussa on November 06, 2005, 12:34:41 PM
wow i saw this last night on espn...i could of shtein myself. i was ignoring the current drama with Owens, but getting into a fight with Hugh is just wrong. Good job by the Eagles for suspending him for good. I never thought I would say this, but it was a huge mistake to get TO. I guess character really does go along way in sports, can't just be all talent. still disappointing because he is such a playmaker, and he def. helped us out on the field. some slack jawed desparate franchise will pick him up next year.
They haven't suspended him for good...yet.
Enberg on Chargers/Jets just said TO was NOT suspended....he's just inactive... ??? ??? ???
i just saw on the ravens cincy game they showed a quote by reid saying TO is not suspended for tonites game...hes just inactive and we are keeping our options open
yea saw that. what the farg.
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 06, 2005, 02:52:10 PM
i just saw on the ravens cincy game they showed a quote by reid saying TO is not suspended for tonites game...hes just inactive and we are keeping our options open
same announcement on the Jets v. SD game
its gotta be a case of cya as far as the whole suspension thing goes with the nflpa...i cant believe reid would be this pathetic
Oh Christ.
Make this merry-go-round stop. I'm getting sick.
If TO plays, I don't even know what to think.....
Um, what?
Could this be like the TC episode where he was suspended but not really suspended because of the NFLPA stuff?
But what I don't get is this time they announced that he was indeed suspended.
Wow another suprise in the Owens saga.
Quote from: DemonchildrenOnTurf on November 06, 2005, 02:54:26 PM
Oh Christ.
Make this merry-go-round stop. I'm getting sick.
If TO plays, I don't even know what to think.....
they said he's inactive for tonights game...he's not playing.
just keyshawn his ass.
I saw a report on anaother board that says the CIncy game reported that TO MIGHT EVEN PLAY TONIGHT.
I don't have that game, but what the farg......
Quote from: MDS on November 06, 2005, 02:55:48 PM
just keyshawn his ass.
If indeed is only listed as inactive, then that's exactly what was done.
Quote from: DemonchildrenOnTurf on November 06, 2005, 02:56:02 PM
I saw a report on anaother board that says the CIncy game reported that TO MIGHT EVEN PLAY TONIGHT.
I don't have that game, but what the farg......
No, they reported that he is not suspended, but is inactive for tonight.
its definitely a matter of the money...they probably have been informed by their legal dept and or banner that a suspension isnt going to fly...remember suspension means no pay...and when youre taking cake off the table fat kids get angry
No, they reported that he is not suspended, but is inactive for tonight.
get your drunk ass to the the green lot
Quote from: phattymatty on November 06, 2005, 02:58:42 PM
Quote from: DemonchildrenOnTurf on November 06, 2005, 02:56:02 PM
I saw a report on anaother board that says the CIncy game reported that TO MIGHT EVEN PLAY TONIGHT.
I don't have that game, but what the farg......
No, they reported that he is not suspended, but is inactive for tonight.
Got it. Thanks for the clarification....
Quote from: Diomedes on November 06, 2005, 02:57:43 PM
Quote from: MDS on November 06, 2005, 02:55:48 PM
just keyshawn his ass.
If indeed is only listed as inactive, then that's exactly what was done.
Yep. Either the "legalese" got back to them, or they're going the Keyshawn route, or both...
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 06, 2005, 02:59:21 PM
its definitely a matter of the money...they probably have been informed by their legal dept and or banner that a suspension isnt going to fly...remember suspension means no pay...and when youre taking cake off the table fat kids get angry
I'm with you.
Suspension = loss of $200 large per game
Inactive = still drawin that check
They'll go over the legalities and probably Keyshawn him this week...so he'll still get his cash.
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 06, 2005, 03:00:01 PM
No, they reported that he is not suspended, but is inactive for tonight.
get your drunk ass to the the green lot
I'l be there, just talked to Clint, he's gonns gimme a ring when he finds out where you're tailgating at. I'll be over around 5:30ish.
I'l be there, just talked to Clint, he's gonns gimme a ring when he finds out where you're tailgating at. I'll be over around 5:30ish.
we are dippin now...we are gonna be as close to mongos spot as possible so head that way then call
as far as the fans are concerned, does it make a difference if they suspend him for the year or deactivate him for every game? I can see how it would affect the cash flow for the front office, but to everyone else, whats the difference?
It's probably just semantics...suspension seems more final than "inactive".
Quote from: MURP on November 06, 2005, 03:08:06 PM
as far as the fans are concerned, does it make a difference if they suspend him for the year or deactivate him for every game? I can see how it would affect the cash flow for the front office, but to everyone else, whats the difference?
there is none. ;D
as long as he never plays another game as an eagle, i don't care about the money part. :deion
I hear ya MURP. My emotions want TO "punished" by losing his money. But my smarts says out is out, so it doesn't matter.
And then I can hold out hope that TO has cost himself millions, since few teams would be willing to take a chance on him, and his paychecks should reflect the low number of buyers.
as far as the fans are concerned, does it make a difference if they suspend him for the year or deactivate him for every game?
not in the least
Quotethats the problem with TO no one has ever stood up whether in san fran or here...like i said yesterday this garbage would not have gone on in places like baltimore new england or dallas...places that have players and coaches who are leaders
New england I will agree with but Balt & Dallas? THe Ravens are a mess, and a bunch of thugs, Dallas has its head coach hitting assistant coaches and it's WR & QB yelling at each other on the sideline.
ravens/ cinci game they said he was inactive and fatass reid wants to keep his options open
Quote from: Bigskinbauer on November 06, 2005, 03:12:57 PM
ravens/ cinci game they said he was inactive and fatass reid wants to keep his options open
Can you read? Do you not understand that it has to do with the legal repercussion and possibly money issues? He's NOT playing tonight, so wtf do you care?
We all know you'll be sucking him off next year when he's a taterskin. So spare us.
Quote from: phillymic2000 on November 06, 2005, 03:11:25 PM
Quotethats the problem with TO no one has ever stood up whether in san fran or here...like i said yesterday this garbage would not have gone on in places like baltimore new england or dallas...places that have players and coaches who are leaders
New england I will agree with but Balt & Dallas? THe Ravens are a mess, and a bunch of thugs, Dallas has its head coach hitting assistant coaches and it's WR & QB yelling at each other on the sideline.
Not only that, but doesn't Parcells have the last jackhole who was "Keyshawned" on his active 2005 roster? Namely,
Keyshawn himself??
He also has bitchfist Glenn...
So if he isn't suspended then that means the "conduct detrimental to the team" was just BS?
Yeah, they're just chock full of leadership over there. :-D
Quote from: Bigskinbauer on November 06, 2005, 03:12:57 PM
reid wants to keep his options open
Not for this game, jagoff.
Parcells scapegoats his kicker and sissy-punches an assistant coach, and apparently he's a tough guy again.
Quote from: WEST is GOD on November 06, 2005, 03:26:09 PM
So if he isn't suspended then that means the "conduct detrimental to the team" was just BS?
No...it means they might "Keyshawn" him with no limit (unlike a suspension and the legal battles with the NFLPA)
Joe Banner on CSN's pregame said that he, AR, etc., will re-evaluate things tomorrow to decide what to do with TO for the rest of the year...
Quote from: BigEd76 on November 06, 2005, 07:39:03 PM
Joe Banner on CSN's pregame said that he, AR, etc., will re-evaluate things tomorrow to decide what to do with TO for the rest of the year...
Feces pit!
DGunn: by Friday, Trotter and Dawkins had enough, and after the players meeting, they went to AR asking him to end this once and for all...
Quote from: BigEd76 on November 06, 2005, 07:45:29 PM
DGunn: by Friday, Trotter and Dawkins had enough, and the players went to AR asking him to end this once and for all...
that says it all, considering they were TO's "friends" on the team.
Wow.... that speaks volumes.
I LUV ME SUM DUGLUS!
Quote from: BigEd76 on November 06, 2005, 07:39:03 PM
Joe Banner on CSN's pregame said that he, AR, etc., will re-evaluate things tomorrow to decide what to do with TO for the rest of the year...
Banner also confirmed that Owens has indeed been suspended without pay.
http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/homeNewsDetail.jsp?id=38919
Quote from: PhillyFan on November 06, 2005, 07:49:44 PM
Quote from: BigEd76 on November 06, 2005, 07:39:03 PM
Joe Banner on CSN's pregame said that he, AR, etc., will re-evaluate things tomorrow to decide what to do with TO for the rest of the year...
Banner also confirmed that Owens has indeed been suspended without pay.
http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/homeNewsDetail.jsp?id=38919
Rhetorical question:
Would any $$$ taken from TO as a result of this suspension be added to next year's cap? :deion :deion :deion
Any incentives he obviously won't hit now will be added. Hojillion cap dollars, here we come!
Trotter now told DGunn that the players didn't go to AR. DGunn went back into the locker room and the players backed up what DGunn said earlier, that the players decided during a players-only meeting to get rid of TO then went to AR....... :sly
Quote from: BigEd76 on November 07, 2005, 12:42:09 AM
Trotter now told DGunn that the players didn't go to AR. DGunn went back into the locker room and the players backed up what DGunn said earlier, that the players decided during a players-only meeting to get rid of TO then went to AR....... :sly
Seems to me that Trotter wanted to keep the in house meeting in house and some of the other players decided not to.
I'm really pissed off at him. Should I throw away his poster in my room?
I will probably burn my T.O. jersey.
Quote from: FFatPatt on November 07, 2005, 07:21:20 AM
I will probably burn my T.O. jersey.
I was thinking about what I'm going to do with mine as well. As much as I'd like to burn it right now I doubt I will. I got rid of 2 Ricky Watters jerseys when he left and a Fred Barnett jersey and I kind of wish I still had them. Not to wear them or anything but just to take up space in my closet.
Quote from: FFatPatt on November 07, 2005, 07:21:20 AM
I will probably burn my T.O. jersey.
The 2 of mine are in my kitchen garbage can as we speak. I may take one back out to burn it.
I don't trust DGunn to get the story right. First it was the players went to Reid, who then moved to suspend TO. Then it was the players had a meeting with TO in the room and they went to Reid to decided to suspend TO. Now it seems like Reid decided to suspend TO alone and went to the players to let them know, and they showed support.
It doesn't mean that much but that DGunn was a little cocky last night with his reporting and Barkann was so frothy with McNabb that he didn't press DGunn for consistency in his story.
I actually felt bad for Didinger having to sit there with those morons last night.
Quote from: EagleFeva on November 07, 2005, 08:39:18 AM
Quote from: FFatPatt on November 07, 2005, 07:21:20 AM
I will probably burn my T.O. jersey.
The 2 of mine are in my kitchen garbage can as we speak. I may take one back out to burn it.
Ouch... two?
the day after PC has been moved to 3:00pm. is it just because it was a late game? maybe they want to announce their final TO decision today and needed more time to talk get it all sorted out.
Quote from: Sun_Mo on November 07, 2005, 11:09:52 AM
the day after PC has been moved to 3:00pm. is it just because it was a late game? maybe they want to announce their final TO decision today and needed more time to talk get it all sorted out.
I'm not worrying about the conspiracy theories around T.O. or whether or not he'll play for the Eagles again.
I am worried about whether or not we will look back on the 2005 season as a complete, top-to-bottom embarassment.
Quote from: Sun_Mo on November 07, 2005, 11:09:52 AM
the day after PC has been moved to 3:00pm. is it just because it was a late game? maybe they want to announce their final TO decision today and needed more time to talk get it all sorted out.
Let TO sit, I want to see more of Reggie Brown and McMullen. Wilber has really impressed me in very limited duty this year.
Luckily for me, I never bought a TO jersey.
Quote from: troyhstewart on November 07, 2005, 11:31:28 AM
Quote from: Sun_Mo on November 07, 2005, 11:09:52 AM
the day after PC has been moved to 3:00pm. is it just because it was a late game? maybe they want to announce their final TO decision today and needed more time to talk get it all sorted out.
Let TO sit, I want to see more of Reggie Brown and McMullen. Wilber has really impressed me in very limited duty this year.
Luckily for me, I never bought a TO jersey.
This team needs to heal without T.O.'s presence in the locker room & hopefully they can come close fielding a team like they did last year.
I went out of my way last year to get an authentic Owens jersey signed & framed & just last night I contemplated bringing it down & dropping a big dookie on it.
Wow. Peter King actually makes sense (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2005/writers/peter_king/11/07/mmqb.week9/index.html), complete with admonishment to Michael Irvin.
I just want to go on record right now. No matter what happens this season, if they have given TO the boot for good, I am proud of this organization. They saw a weakness at WR and tried to remedy it. It worked in some ways, but failed in some fundamental ways that would never be good for the team. Although it took them a little too long, they realized that TO's stats were not worth the diseased atmosphere he brought with him, and have (hopefully) cut ties. This team will be better in the long run for it and I am no longer embarrassed because they have that assclown on the team.
I still say they go 10-6 but even if they don't I'm happy with them and I know that next year will see an improvement.
Your not-so-miserable attitude is refreshing.
Saw this on EMB:
QuoteA person with a borderline personality disorder often experiences a repetitive pattern of disorganization and instability in self-image, mood, behavior and close personal relationships. This can cause significant distress or impairment in friendships and work. A person with this disorder can often be bright and intelligent, and appear warm, friendly and competent. They sometimes can maintain this appearance for a number of years until their defense structure crumbles, usually around a stressful situation like the breakup of a romantic relationship or the death of a parent.
Symptoms
Relationships with others are intense but stormy and unstable with marked shifts of feelings and difficulties in maintaining intimate, close connections. The person may manipulate others and often has difficulty with trusting others. There is also emotional instability with marked and frequent shifts to an empty lonely depression or to irritability and anxiety. There may be unpredictable and impulsive behavior which might include excessive spending, promiscuity, gambling, drug or alcohol abuse, shoplifting, overeating or physically self-damaging actions such as suicide gestures. The person may show inappropriate and intense anger or rage with temper tantrums, constant brooding and resentment, feelings of deprivation, and a loss of control or fear of loss of control over angry feelings. There are also identity disturbances with confusion and uncertainty about self-identity, sexuality, life goals and values, career choices, friendships. There is a deep-seated feeling that one is flawed, defective, damaged or bad in some way, with a tendency to go to extremes in thinking, feeling or behavior. Under extreme stress or in severe cases there can be brief psychotic episodes with loss of contact with reality or bizarre behavior or symptoms. Even in less severe instances, there is often significant disruption of relationships and work performance. The depression which accompanies this disorder can cause much suffering and can lead to serious suicide attempts.
:paranoid
Let's hear it for suicide attempts!
Quote from: Sun_Mo on November 07, 2005, 11:09:52 AM
the day after PC has been moved to 3:00pm. is it just because it was a late game? maybe they want to announce their final TO decision today and needed more time to talk get it all sorted out.
After late games they do it later in the day. After MNF games they just wait until Wednesday because they end so late.
I'll bring the rope.
I wouldn't call any personality disorder T.O. has "borderline".
Quote from: FFatPatt on November 07, 2005, 11:53:51 AM
Wow. Peter King actually makes sense (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2005/writers/peter_king/11/07/mmqb.week9/index.html), complete with admonishment to Michael Irvin.
Good read. :yay
Quote from: rjs246 on November 07, 2005, 12:00:32 PM
I just want to go on record right now. No matter what happens this season, if they have given TO the boot for good, I am proud of this organization. They saw a weakness at WR and tried to remedy it. It worked in some ways, but failed in some fundamental ways that would never be good for the team. Although it took them a little too long, they realized that TO's stats were not worth the diseased atmosphere he brought with him, and have (hopefully) cut ties. This team will be better in the long run for it and I am no longer embarrassed because they have that assclown on the team.
I still say they go 10-6 but even if they don't I'm happy with them and I know that next year will see an improvement.
Pretty much sums it up for me.
Quote from: FFatPatt on November 07, 2005, 12:06:57 PM
Your not-so-miserable attitude is refreshing.
:-D
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on November 07, 2005, 12:15:08 PM
After late games they do it later in the day. After MNF games they just wait until Wednesday because they end so late.
i thought about that, but the weird thing is that the PC was scheduled for noon, and they moved it back to 3pm. if they wanted to have it later, I'm sure they just would have said so yesterday or earlier in the year.
Well we'll see...maybe they're waiting to introduce another extension or two?
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on November 07, 2005, 12:49:08 PM
Well we'll see...maybe they're waiting to introduce another extension or two?
TO?
Quote from: Sun_Mo on November 07, 2005, 12:55:11 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on November 07, 2005, 12:49:08 PM
Well we'll see...maybe they're waiting to introduce another extension or two?
TO?
the word was "extension", not execution.
I have a framed piece of memoribilia from last year's NFC Champion Eagles team in my office. After this latest fiasco, I've decided to make a minor change to it. Here it is:
BEFORE:
(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d178/jerome99rip/DCP_2604.jpg)
AFTER:
(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d178/jerome99rip/DCP_2603.jpg)
;D
you should draw a crappy picture of wilbur on that piece of paper
Quote from: MDS on November 07, 2005, 01:39:01 PM
you should draw a crappy picture of wilbur on that piece of paper
Like this?
(http://www.co.clackamas.or.us/fair/images/horse.gif)
Get a pic of Reggie Brown on thre, Romey.
lol, nice photoshop job there Romey.
Quote from: FFatPatt on November 07, 2005, 11:53:51 AM
Wow. Peter King actually makes sense (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2005/writers/peter_king/11/07/mmqb.week9/index.html), complete with admonishment to Michael Irvin.
PK makes the point, but I don't think he (or anyone else) really has a clear picture of how far gone TO is. I really think he's mentally disturbed - it isn't just that he refuses to accept any responsibility, but he is severly paranoid. I wonder if his upbringing twisted his mind somehow - I remeber the story about how his mom wouldn't let him ride his bike anywhere but up and down the driveway. His social awareness and sensitivity warped by his childhood isolation and amplified by the enablers he's surrounded himself with.
What really hit me was watching him this weekend. When the 100 TD thing came up, the Eagles said that they "Do not recognize individual milestones". This wasn't a record, it was a milestone. Still, the birds might have done something if they hadn't already recognized his 100 TD (combined) already. Might it have been nice to give him a nod & flash something up on the scoreboard? Sure, but I digress...
When TO talked about this in interviews he said "My publicist [Kim Etheredge] talked to the head PR guy, and he made an excuse about [how] they didn't recognize it, or they didn't realize it was coming up," Owens said. "But I know that was a blatant lie. If it would have been somebody else, they probably would have popped fireworks around the stadium." Look at the difference - the Eagles were saying that they don't make a big deal over individuals, especially "milestones". TO thinks they intentionally ignored him, and lied to him and his publicist about it. He simply exists in a different world than the rest of us.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on November 07, 2005, 01:43:51 PM
Get a pic of Reggie Brown on thre, Romey.
(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d178/jerome99rip/DCP_2606.jpg)
:deion
Nice!
:-D
I needed that laugh.
:-D :-D :-D
But Reggie cut his dreads. So you gotta have him with a fade and the chinstrap beard thing.
By the way...from PFT.com:
QuoteT.O. NOT TO G.O. TODAY
There's a rumor making that rounds that the Eagles plan to announce at a 3:00 p.m. press conference on Monday they will release receiver Terrell Owens.
We're told that it's not going to happen.
On the surface, it doesn't make sense to cut him. As a vested veteran, Owens would still get the remainder of his $3.5 million salary.
With eight of 17 weeks remaining, that's $1.64 million in free money for Owens. Even if his contract is claimed by another team through the waiver system (unlikely), he's still eligible for the remainder of his salary from the Eagles as termination pay, pursuant to Article XXIII of the CBA.
A player can forfeit his right to termination pay only if the team has provided him with a written warning that he is failing to exhibit the level of good faith effort required from the club. Even then, the matter would be subject to a grievance.
The far better course, as several league insiders believe, is to impose the four-week suspension on Owens, fight over whether he gets his pay for those games, and then deactivate him for the rest of the season and send him home on paid leave, like the Bucs did with Keyshawn Johnson in 2003.
What rumor? :sly
the one PFT invented
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on November 07, 2005, 02:29:20 PM
By the way...from PFT.com:
QuoteT.O. NOT TO G.O. TODAY
There's a rumor making that rounds that the Eagles plan to announce at a 3:00 p.m. press conference on Monday they will release receiver Terrell Owens.
We're told that it's not going to happen.
On the surface, it doesn't make sense to cut him. As a vested veteran, Owens would still get the remainder of his $3.5 million salary.
With eight of 17 weeks remaining, that's $1.64 million in free money for Owens. Even if his contract is claimed by another team through the waiver system (unlikely), he's still eligible for the remainder of his salary from the Eagles as termination pay, pursuant to Article XXIII of the CBA.
A player can forfeit his right to termination pay only if the team has provided him with a written warning that he is failing to exhibit the level of good faith effort required from the club. Even then, the matter would be subject to a grievance.
The far better course, as several league insiders believe, is to impose the four-week suspension on Owens, fight over whether he gets his pay for those games, and then deactivate him for the rest of the season and send him home on paid leave, like the Bucs did with Keyshawn Johnson in 2003.
Hmmm...wonder what that little note TO received from the FO said...
I'm not saying he's going to be released - there seems to be a fairly broad media contingent who believe that Andy wants to rehab TO, but this sounds like the kind of duck that Banner would put in a row...
There was also a quote in one of the papers from Dawkins where he disputes what TO said on his radio show about how Dawk forgave him once he read the transcript.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on November 07, 2005, 02:29:20 PM
:-D :-D :-D
But Reggie cut his dreads. So you gotta have him with a fade and the chinstrap beard thing.
(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d178/jerome99rip/DCP_2607.jpg)
Best I could do, Jay. How's this?
:-\
Tight! :-D
By the way...
Mortenson and Eskin both are apparently saying that TO will be released.
Apparently that's the rumor PFT is shooting down...