hopefully game 1 of the series gets rained out so we can all enjoy the sixers opener in full tonight
awsome daily news cover today
(http://media.philly.com/storage/dailynews/covers/back.jpg)
ugh what a disastrous cover
id rather them put jason smith than that big headed, over rated waste of life
40 wins, out in the first round again. like they aint even there.
that cover is better than your life...then again youre a corny white dood so i can understand why youd want jason smith there
igoudala blows. its like putting clarence weatherspoon on the cover.
this team is gonna waste more time on your life than the eagles. take a step back on them, they aint goin nowhere.
i dont care....i will still love them forever
godfather
brusier brand
dre dog
sweet lou
ill will
the kid
ITS ON!!!!!!
lol at hoping a WS game is cancelled for a sixers game
whats the difference....youll still see it just on a different nite than the sixers opener
if the sixers game could be rained out id be fine with that as well
altho i was thinking the sixers started at 8...but they tip at 7 so most of the game will be in before first pitch...maybe like a half hour delay of the phils game?...that would be sweet
you are literally the only person the world who is even remotely interested in the 76ers right now
Quote from: MDS on October 28, 2009, 01:11:18 PM
you are literally the only person the world who is even remotely interested in the 76ers right now
:paranoid umm I was kind of pissed they play on the same night.
I'm ready....but I will probably watch most of it and DVR the rest.
get pumped
another low 40 win season is on the way
go igoudala go
haha, iggy is off to a stellar start.
why the hell is dalembert touching the ball so much
even if the sixers were being televised where i live, the thought of watching them is the last thing on my mind right now.
perfect filler until the WS starts...pre-game shows suck
Lol nuke this squad
End it now
nice showing tonight. :boo
3-11 for 8 points. superstar igoudala, indeed.
elton brand is DONE.
can we just pretend they dont even exist?
Quote from: MDS on October 29, 2009, 12:24:07 AM
3-11 for 8 points. superstar igoudala, indeed.
elton brand is DONE.
can we just pretend they dont even exist?
I'll probably care around March 1.
Quote from: MDS on October 29, 2009, 12:24:07 AM
can we just pretend they dont even exist?
most of us are doing exactly that
too bad that phillies game didn't get rained out last night.
lol yea, shame we missed that talentless farg brick shot after shot
If you don't like the Sixers don't watch them or comment about them. K thanks.
i love them but they are a complete waste of time and energy. stuck in the low 40 win range for the next 5 years. cant even blow it up.
I don't even blame them at this point. The NBA is just a horrible league.
its better than it was post-jordan but its still pretty awful. like 75% of the teams are irrelevant and at least 80% of the players dont give it a shtein.
The NBA CBA and trade rules makes the NHL look like geniuses.
who came up with this shtein? its just unfathomable.
if you like young blacks and if you understand the game....and those are two huge ifs around these parts then the nba is farging awesome right now
if you take a random game and by random i mean a game where your team isnt involved then its by far the most watchable of the pro sports
not sure how you can say you're a basketball fan and also the nba is horrible right now. i'd argue that it's the most exciting it's been ever, but of course you're going to have people say the magic-bird-jordan years were better, but we have more likable guys right now in the league than ever before. more talented also. and as those old heads make speeches and write books you come to realize how assholish all those guys were anyway.
the thing is 95% of the people who hate on the league arent even nostaligia driven old heads who love chest passes and set shots nor did they even watch the league in the 80's....they are just hating to hate
There's nothing wrong with chest passes any more than there's something wrong with playing defense. They're called fundamentals of the game and the jackasses who play in the NBA by and large lack both basic skills because they were never taught how to play the game the right way.
Oh, but they can dunk like a motherfarger, though! Yay!!
PS: LOL @ the racial bullshtein again. Jesus, dude...
no they dont lack fundementals....some players in the league do but so do half the phillies
yeah like tons of people dont say the nba sucks because its unrelatable young black kids making lots of money who make up the majority of the league***
theres two reasons why anyone would ever say the league sucks right now
1. they just dont like basketball
2. ***
the league sucks right now because the competition is so watered down. the east has 3 good teams. we have to wait until may for this to finally play itself out. maybe thats the way its always been, but what happens between now and the semis is a waste cause the result is already in the bank. that sucks. it makes for boring, pointless, uncompetitive basketball.
welcome to every pro sport since the beginning of time
just say you dont like pro basketball and be done with it...you dont need to come up with uninformed stupid reasons
for example i hate soccer because it sucks
not every sport is for every person
So...the Bucks are terrible. Hopefully Igoudala can realize that the season has started and he needs to make some shots. Although it was nice to see Speights play good the other night, they need everyone to click.
I didn't see the game; how did Lou look as the main point?
he still has no idea what hes doing in this offense...really none of them do
its gonna probably be january before they start to get it...orlando is really really good and would pound a sixer team not learnign a new system like this...but before they get better at it expect some really ugly losses before then to bad as well as good teams
the albatross is brand...he is beyond awful and appears to be completely done
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 30, 2009, 12:44:41 PM
welcome to every pro sport since the beginning of time
just say you dont like pro basketball and be done with it...you dont need to come up with uninformed stupid reasons
for example i hate soccer because it sucks
not every sport is for every person
FALSE
besides the nhl, every other sport has a meaningful regular season. you actually dont know how its going to shake out, which makes it exciting. right now the nba is not this.
also other key reasons:
1. the sixers irrelevance. tough to really get into it when your team is useless.
2. the knicks irrelevance. complain all you want but things are so much better when the ny team is good.
3. the timeout-a-thon at end of games. can you say anti-climatic?
4. games like game 6 of the 2002 western conference finals. so blatantly one-sided and obvious it wasnt even funny.
basketball is easily my favorite sport to play and cover. i still watch the nba. especially the playoffs. but not admitting is has loads of faults is ludicrous.
every sport has a handful of good teams a handful of bad teams and a bunch of middling teams
occasionally youll have a year like the nfl this year where theres more garbage than normal...but in general every league is the same almost every year
i dont agree with the sixers sucking thing because i follow my favorite teams the same whether they are good or bad but i understand what youre saying
the rest is just made up conspiracy talk and little things that go back to what im saying...you just dont like the sport...if you did something as insignicant as timeouts wouldnt bother you at all...i honestly dont even notice it
you dont notice that it takes 10 minutes to play 10 seconds? perhaps im too anal about that stuff, but the game wasnt supposed to be played this way. also the advance the ball rule is terrible. but it is what it is i suppose.
the conspiracy talk is not made up. the refs call games certain ways and pull certain stunts to sway games in certain directions. you cant farging argue that. look at what joe crawford did to tim duncan. look what steve javie does and did to AI. look at games 6 sac/la. the mia/dal finals. its all there. the game aint rigged 100% but it aint always on the level. you might be able to say that about all sports but the proof is in the pudding in the nba.
also you are either crazy or lying. you are telling me you are as into a 40 win sixer teams as you are the 95 god awful sixers and the 01 squad? all the same level of interest, rooting and passion from senor havas? you lie.
The NBA is a horrible league because there is absolutely no parity in any way. I don't even need parity, but the only way to become a good team in the NBA is dumb luck and having a huge market.
Its a farging joke.
then explain the spurs, the hornets, the nugs, jazz, blazers, magic...
burn
The Jazz actually might be the exception, but the others got lucky because they were a horrible team in a year where one or more studs came out.
yea, duncan, melo, cp3, roy all win games on their own. no solid role players around them. none.
they build teams the same way the big markets teams do. with the nba cap the lakers have just as good a chance to be good as the bucks.
No.
Anyone one of them on this team and this is a 50-60 win team at least. Probably closer to the latter.
Quote from: MDS on October 30, 2009, 01:13:15 PM
you dont notice that it takes 10 minutes to play 10 seconds? perhaps im too anal about that stuff, but the game wasnt supposed to be played this way. also the advance the ball rule is terrible. but it is what it is i suppose.
no i dont notice it....but i dont notice it in any sport...the only sport ive ever noticed and it still didnt me was college football which is much quicker now with the rule changes...post season baseball is interminable with the longer commerical breaks and both batters and pitchers being much more circumspect in their play
Quote from: MDS on October 30, 2009, 01:13:15 PM
also you are either crazy or lying. you are telling me you are as into a 40 win sixer teams as you are the 95 god awful sixers and the 01 squad? all the same level of interest, rooting and passion from senor havas? you lie.
you can ask anyone that knows me...of course id be more into a sixer playoff game than a sixer regular season game but whether the sixers are a 15 win team or a 50 win team i am into every game the same and try not to ever miss a game (within reason)
Quote from: jihadist monk on October 30, 2009, 01:33:47 PM
The NBA is a horrible league because there is absolutely no parity in any way. I don't even need parity, but the only way to become a good team in the NBA is dumb luck and having a huge market.
Its a farging joke.
lol what the hell are you talking about
i think youre confusing parity with having great champions....a florida marlins tampa bay bucs or carolina hurricanes winning an nba title is generally not going to happen...and speaking of luck youre not going to have an injury in the nba then have a guy from the arena league come off the bench and win you a title
with how tight the nba cap is and free agency severely limited you actually have to earn a title by building the best team
most nba champions are going to be remembered which you cant say about the other three sports
I dont even know where to go with some of these perceived reasoning's for the nba being such a horrible sports league: timeouts, the new york knicks, conspiracy, not a big market? wow
haters
they beat the bucks and none of you say a god damn thing
rollin son
they only got 14,000 for the home opener. nobody cares about em
Quote from: BigEd76 on October 31, 2009, 01:23:38 AM
they only got 14,000 for the home opener. nobody cares about em
omghater!
Quote from: BigEd76 on October 31, 2009, 01:23:38 AM
they only got 14,000 for the home opener. nobody cares about em
real fans do
wow--up by 20 at the half...now overtime...unreal.
whatever this team worked on in the off-season it wasnt the princeton offense because Ive seen not one speck of it in the 4th q of this game
They're playing basketball?
Its like a morgue
theyd be up by 20 and the house would be rockin if thaddeus wasnt playing
The Sixers need GRIT.
Quote from: Rome on November 03, 2009, 07:53:57 PM
The Sixers need GRIT.
(http://msn.foxsports.com/fe/img/NBA/Headshots/140x170/4298.jpg)
Rough game.
What's up with Brand? 2-6?
lol another terrible game for one of the brick brothers
ABORT THIS MESS PLEASE
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on November 03, 2009, 11:32:39 PM
Rough game.
What's up with Brand? 2-6?
hes done...old and injured is no way to go thru the nba
So 4yrs and 66M left to pay, right?
Worst contract ever.
they should have never fired king when they did...when you fire a gm and have money under the cap its inevitable that the new guy is going to come in and make a big splash...thats just what new guys do....
king on the other hand had a plan and that was to get to the summer of 2010 with all this money...there was to much pressure on stefanski as a new hire to makeover the team right away and theres no way he could have the patience to wait until the sick class came out
perfectly staggered double header tonight
sixers at 7
flyers at 730
14,000 is actually more than I expected from the home opener. There is just no reason to justify spending money on this team right now.
thing was there wasnt anywhere close to 14k in the seats
it was 10-11 tops
iguodala just had the dunk of the early year so far....so ill
one down one to go
nice to see the sixers win by making some threes instead of losing by 40 from giving up threes and not be the team who cant get a scripted shot off in the last 10 seconds...
jason kapono with some perfectly times threes and sweet lou with a great all around game
but wow were the nets shorthanded tonight and had no business being in this game...sixers are NOT good...they need a great player more than any other team maybe in the history of the league
also did elton get hurt?...i dont know his exact minutes but he had to have gotten less than 20 and maybe like 5 in the second half...unless i missed an injury we might have seen the beginning of the end of the e brand era
just over 10k for the game
lol @ 23 minutes for willie green. its like batting pedro feliz 5th.
willie actually played a real nice game
cant friggin believe I saw elton brand cheering like a rookie on the bench during the 4th quarter trying to win a close game. thats a crying shame
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 07, 2009, 10:02:03 AM
willie actually played a real nice game
wow a nice a game. amazing. what did we do to deserve such talent?
hes a good guy to have on your bench...just need to spot him properly as he was last night...now if hes getting 20-25 minutes a night then thats not good...
I've never understood the Willie Green hate. Like you said, solid bench guy...the 7th or 8th guy. But not great if he's being counted on to be a significant player.
Another terrible thad night.
Good god are they bad
Mega Stud 16 is turning into one of the best young big men in the game. He can do it all, and I love how he isn't soft and always is aggressive and crashes the glass. Once his defensive discipline improves he will be an all-star.
He'll be a 20+/10 guy for the Sixers for a long time.
Quote from: MDS on November 08, 2009, 07:33:16 PM
Another terrible thad night.
Good god are they bad
what are you talking about they played a really really good game...it was incredibly frustrating because no matter how late in the game it got with the sixers still leading you knew they were gonna lose but it still was a great game to watch
their permieter defense is once again so mind boggling bad its to blame in literally every single loss they have
even when this team loses tho i love just watching all the young talent they have...if they ever gain some toughness and a clue on how to defense the three pinter they will be a nice squad
this is pathetic (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/attendance?sort=home_pct&year=2010&seasonType=2)
7 games in, I think I've watched maybe 5 minutes total....
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 10, 2009, 08:06:00 AM
Quote from: MDS on November 08, 2009, 07:33:16 PM
Another terrible thad night.
Good god are they bad
what are you talking about they played a really really good game...it was incredibly frustrating because no matter how late in the game it got with the sixers still leading you knew they were gonna lose but it still was a great game to watch
their permieter defense is once again so mind boggling bad its to blame in literally every single loss they have
even when this team loses tho i love just watching all the young talent they have...if they ever gain some toughness and a clue on how to defense the three pinter they will be a nice squad
i was talkin bout the pistons game
the suns they were gonna lose but hanging tough was nice to see
and stop with the young talent. who is young besides jrue. thad is on his 3rd year, we all know what he is. and this group has had time together and they farging blow. its comical that out of all the teams in the world you are an unquestioned stepford homer to the saddest most pathetic most going nowhere most irrelevant borderline inconsequential one. you suck.
i believe they are the 5th youngest team in the nba and they are undoubtedly talented...they still are missing some key things obviously...but if they had better spent brands money they would be a player right now
but they didnt and they are locked into that stiff and wont be climbing out of the 7th seed hole for years.
youre not as bad as a flyer fans but youre pretty close. hope you have fun watching .500 hoops for the next 5 years. join up on the temple bandwagon for some real fun.
Quote from: BigEd76 on November 10, 2009, 11:59:49 AM
this is pathetic (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/attendance?sort=home_pct&year=2010&seasonType=2)
7 games in, I think I've watched maybe 5 minutes total....
Does that include last nights game? Granted they were up against the NLCS and World Serie so I give the fans a pass but still very sad.
pretty sure none of their home games went head to head with any baseball
they did go head to head with doing something much more interesting though
watching paint dry?
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 10, 2009, 12:12:49 PM
i believe they are the 5th youngest team in the nba and they are undoubtedly talented...they still are missing some key things obviously...but if they had better spent brands money they would be a player right now
Or if they didn't spend it at all, they'd be a player in the big 2010 free agent pool. Maybe get a franchise player like Wade.
QuoteBut for anyone watching this team right now – really watching it – you know things aren't right. And it feels like a little more than just searching for that early-season rhythm. The Sixers, right now, seem slightly annoyed with each other. I'd love to say this is some sort of behind-the-scenes insight I'm offering, but it's not. It's helpful that I've seen all 6 games, sure, but yesterday in Detroit one of the Detroit writers came up to me after the Pistons 88-81 win over the Sixers and said, "What's up with the Sixers?"
It's for this reason that these next 5-10 games are important: because the Sixers appear to be heading down a bad path. And if you're watching closely, you're catching the frustration exchanged in little moments on the court. Yesterday at Detroit, it was a stare down between Elton Brand and Andre Iguodala when Iguodala failed to give Brand the ball in the post. Brand continued the stare even after Iguodala reversed the ball to the other side of the court. It's moments like this that leave you wondering if maybe this Princeton Offense is a ways away from being embraced by everyone? And if not everyone is buying in, what's that mean for the Sixers attitude and play this season?
from fagans blog a few days ago
like this team is a complete and total embarrassment. just everything about it sucks. they arent going anywhere, they cant blow it up, the foundation is mediocre, they are dead last in the league in attendance, they are getting more forgotten and more irrelevant by the day. its just a terrible situation. and they cant even blow it up cause of the $ owed to stiffs like brand and sammy d and the fact that they handed a foolish 3rd rate scorer like igoudala the keys to the franchise.
they are in an unfixable state right now. its just sad.
up 3 with 5 seconds remaining, the Nets threw the inbound pass right to Thad and nobody bothered to chase him, so he just stood there and let time run out. DEFENSE.
Mega Stud 16 with another nice game last night. I think if he started this year he could average 18 and 9. He'll surpass Iguodala as the best player on the team by mid next season.
lol @ igoudala being your best player
this team is a JOKE
Lol @ tonight
Just a waste of time
Mega Stud 16 is gone 6-8 weeks with a partially torn MCL. Awesome
what farging difference does it make
This is actually good news. One step closer to the lottery.
trade rumor (http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/10741/the-next-big-trade-heres-a-three-team-possibility)
Sammy D and JR Giddens to Sacramento
Andres Nocioni to Boston
the expiring contracts of Kenny Thomas, Tony Allen and Brian Scalabrine to the Sixers
3rd time is a charm kenny.
second time
why the farg would sac town want sammy d
Do it.
whoa they won AND Brand played more than 40 minutes
A home loss to memphis
Can anyone defend this team? They are such a friggin joke.
No, they can't. Because no one really cares enough to try.
shut up, loser
basically, people PHREAK out when a godly phillies dynasty losses one playoff game but simply ignores and accepts the local basketball franchise becoming a laughing stock of a team thats going nowhere and embarrassing themselves on a daily basis.
oh, i get it.
Jordan:
Quote"I'm not going to sugarcoat it. We went separate ways with five individuals on the floor who didn't know how to rally around each other. It's a game that we could have won. It was about team versus non-team. We could have won if we had some sort of camaraderie and positive energy. I don't know if it was selfishness or if it was just not coming together as a team. There was no sort of leadership."
Get your tickets!
Quote from: BigEd76 on November 21, 2009, 03:47:08 PM
Jordan:
Quote"I'm not going to sugarcoat it. We went separate ways with five individuals on the floor who didn't know how to rally around each other. It's a game that we could have won. It was about team versus non-team. We could have won if we had some sort of camaraderie and positive energy. I don't know if it was selfishness or if it was just not coming together as a team. There was no sort of leadership."
Get your tickets!
coming from the head coach? wow. just wow.
lol.. the sixers. lol.
flyers are getting a 2.3 on csn this year
sixers a 1.0
thats 42% off from last year
by comparasion the capitals get a 1.1 and the wiz get a 1.9. the c's have a 4.2.
where my stepford sixer fans at?
(http://mysteryofiniquity.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/apathy.jpg)
nice effort from Jrue but Lou misses the shot at the buzzer and they lose again. Only 1.5 games away from the #3 pick.... :yay
hold for one down by one with the shot being a contested 20 footer from lou will.
great job. great coaching. great team.
Listening to Zumoff slob on Jrue's knob last night was both hilarious and sickening. The kid did come up big, but his comments were ridiculous. "I don't know if I have ever seen a player with this much energy in a 6 minute span!" HA!
Lou Williams broke his jaw last night....out 2-4 weeks
Is there much doubt this team is lottery bound?
How the hell did he break his jaw?
AI is retiring
Quote....And finally, to the city of Philadelphia: I have wonderful memories of my days in a Sixers' uniform. To Philly fans, thank you. Your voice will always be music to my ears.
guess ai would prefer to not play at all if he isn't going to be the focal point of an offense.
gave the Celts a scare tonight before losing by 3. Kapono was on fire
hawks in on friday, should be a loss
a solid 12 or 13 game losing streak is clutch. they need a top lotto pick like easy needs a pack of topps chrome
(http://alltalksports.files.wordpress.com/2007/09/iverson.jpg)
Loved AI from day one. One of the GOATs
i could see AI going to Greece or something where they would just let him play the whole game and put up 30 shots
Lou Will out 2 - 4 weeks
had his jaw wired shut....now it's 8 weeks
Its a thanksgiving miracle!
Screamin' A says the Sixers are considering bringing AI back since they're boring to watch (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4695373) :-D
Quote from: BigEd76 on November 28, 2009, 12:25:49 PM
Screamin' A says the Sixers are considering bringing AI back since they're boring to watch (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4695373) :-D
They gotta do something. When I was in China last week, the NBA seemed more popular there than in Philly.
Holy shtein the Sixers are beyond embarrassing.
Interesting.
I'm not sure how I feel about this. I love AI, but what does bringing him back accomplish? We know he wants to start and to shoot the ball 25 times a game. Is that going to benefit this team? Not really.
he brings them $
they are losing $
it is for $
Stefanski's official statement about meeting with AI today (http://www.nba.com/sixers/news/091130_iverson.html)
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on November 28, 2009, 10:01:14 PM
Interesting.
I'm not sure how I feel about this. I love AI, but what does bringing him back accomplish? We know he wants to start and to shoot the ball 25 times a game. Is that going to benefit this team? Not really.
Does sloppy play, losing streaks and frustration amongst the players on the court benefit the team either? At least if you bring someone in here with a smidgen of heart, you might excite the players to play well because not a damn soul on this team does that.
Signing AI is very low-risk at this point. Dude is 34, will give a soft boost to attendance and their record...bring it..whatever.
boosting their record is the last thing this team needs right now.
QuoteUpdate: According to David Aldridge, Sixers management has given the basketball side the go-ahead to sign Iverson if it wants. Team owner Ed Snider has signed off on Iverson's return, if that's what the basketball side of things determines is best.
76ers head coach Eddie Jordan and General Manager Ed Stefanski met with Allen Iverson in Dallas early this afternoon, this according to a source close to the situation. The Sixers, very soon, should be releasing a statement to this effect.
Details about the meeting -- or Iverson's potential return to the Sixers -- are still being worked out, but it's confirmed that he's "not yet" -- not at this moment -- a Sixer. No decision is expected about Iverson before tonight's game.
Sammy D interfered with Iguodala's game-winning 3 at the buzzer but it didn't look like it was going in anyway. 7 in a row...
Igoudala and dalembert are cancers. Can't root for em, can't like em, can't get rid of em.
This team is beyond depressing. Where you at havas, defend your babies you phony
lol
AI seems to be a done deal.
I have no problems at all with it. He's really not going to help them win that many more games, but he will breathe life into the arena when they play. And he'll retire as a Sixer after the season.
Quote from: MDS on December 01, 2009, 12:47:58 AM
Igoudala and dalembert are cancers. Can't root for em, can't like em, can't get rid of em.
This team is beyond depressing. Where you at havas, defend your babies you phony
i love my peoples no matter what...you watch three games a year...not really a good look calling me out
shtein youre supposedly temple homer #1 yet im at their games while youre at home eating leftover thanksgiving brisket
aint about going to the games
its about being a phony fraud hypocrite fan. if the eagles were doing what the sixers were doing you would be losing your mind. but its the sixers who nobody cares about, and you like to be the guy with the "unpopular" opinion, so you take up the sixer home side where you wear a fresh dalembert jersey and slurp stefanski because he calls 610.
this team blows and AI is just gonna make things worse. there is no reason to ever give them a dime until it changes.
the sixers dont claim to be the gold standard...the sixers dont claim to have the best roster in the nba...the sixers arent aholes...the sixers arent one of a handful of teams that should be in contention to win the nba title every year
the sixers stink
otherwise excellent analogy btwn them and the eagles
so you accept the fact that they blow and have no problem with it?
no they are a title contender
ill ask it again
they are terrible. putting on your stepford hat and "going to" games and cheering career losers like igoudala and dalembert on isnt going to accomplish anything. but you accept it. youre okay with it. theyre like your 12 year kids.
hating on them wont accomplish anything either
you hate on EVERYTHING. what does that accomplish.
i hate on things that bother me...like good teams sucking...
i hated on the phillies when they werent finishing out seasons to get in the playoffs...or when they lost in the playoffs
i didnt hate on the phils when matt beech was getting 25 starts for them
i hate on the eagles for being just good enough not to win
i didnt hate on them when they were 3-13 with ray ray 5-11 with andy or even losing to the rams in nfc champ choke #1
perspective son...some of it would do you wonders
you are so full of crap its not even funny
but yet, i cant hate. you.as much as i want to and as easy as it is, i cant do it. now give me some eagles tix, for free of course, and lets cheer on the sixers! go team go!
Keith Russell via Jamie Apody: done deal for $1.3M, should be announced in the morning
I'm glad he's back. Hopefully his presence will light a fire under their asses and they can turn this season around a little bit.
lol
not even homerjay can believe that.
Info, quotes, and video: http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4705901
Quote"The whole situation wasn't about the contract and the money," Iverson's agent, Leon Rose, told The Associated Press. "It was about the opportunity and the chance to come to Philadelphia."
I can't wait to see him back...and I'm gonna buy a new #3 jersey.
Time to book the good seats for when they come to Houston.
1 game behind the Knicks for the 3rd-worst record in the league....but only 3 games out of the #8 seed. hmmmmm
hopefully ai gives them an entertaining 5 games then tears his acl. this team needs to be losing games. not getting slightly less mediocre. also its not 2001.
he's old or not young.
Saw Eric snow outside the ritz. Where's matt geiger?
Sittin atop a pile of unearned cash?
So I'm hearing and reading the game is almost sold out Monday.
Run with us.
that was last year dummy
this year its princeton with us
ha....Eskin says AI missed the first two flights out of Atlanta today
his press conference should be starting soon
damn...AI is crying
did he blow out his knee already?
he literally cant finish a sentence without crying
philly = home
welcome back bubba gawd
He definitely is back where he belongs, but lets be honest this move probably doesn't do much for them.
If he won a championship would he have been the most beloved Philly athlete ever?
he already is
He definitely is. He has the most loyal fan base of any athlete I've ever seen. People will go to insane lengths to defend him and stick up for him despite how many mistakes he makes. I don't think there is any athlete like that in this town. Even Ryan Howard who brought us a championship will be ripped for striking out. AI could turn the ball over 10 times in a game and no one would rip him for it.
The next in line right now would be Utley though IMO. Especially after the WFC thing, but the fans just love Utley.
utley is white
PC video anywhere?
Eskin probably couldn't wait to rip him.
CSN's video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4C5fnDaDn2U)
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thing about iverson is either people love him or hate him but hes so not that kind of person/athlete....he might be the most complicated ive ever seen...
on one hand he gives more on the field of play than anyone ive ever watched...on the other hand he is not very coachable....on one hand he wasnt always a perfect man off the court but at the same time he is utterly true to himself and the people around him...he never changed for anyone...on one hand he wasnt the greatest teammate and on the other hand he was THE model citizen on the olympic team when no one else wanted to play
you have the right to of course but you dont and shouldnt have to either automatically hate allen or love him
the man peed in a trashcan in the middle of a casino floor, in full view of pit bosses and other players
GOD
AI loves to play pai gow at the taj in AC. have missed him by minutes several times.
he also loves gettin blowies from bar skanks at the old adam marks hotel. but then again, who doesnt?
QuoteBrand: "I don't accept it"
Here in Charlotte. Just got back from 76ers practice at the Time Warner Center here. Obviously all the talk right now is AI, but getting lost in that saga has been the fact that power forward Elton Brand has been coming off the bench the last two games. He missed three games with a sore right hamstring, and since coming back, he hasn't started -- although he's played well in both games.
Talked with Eddie Jordan today and asked him if he wanted to keep Brand coming off the bench and if he liked him there. He said, "Yes, to both." So look for Brand to come off the bench again tomorrow night against the Bobcats.
A few minutes after talking with Jordan, talked with Elton Brand, who seemed less than pleased with coming off the bench (naturally, as a competitor).
Here's the conversation with Brand.
You okay with coming off the bench:
"No, of course not. You know what I mean, it's like ... we're not winning either way, so I'd rather be out there and give us the best chance."
Thoughts on AI:
"We have to see, I don't know. I know Iverson can help us and do what he does and be that scorer, but I'm sure he wants to start, too. So, we've got two guys that want to start."
Do you accept not starting?
"No, I don't accept it. What it is – being a competitor – but also I don't think I have done anything to merit a bench spot."
Have you talked to Jordan about it?
"No. Not much, not at all."
How's the hamstring, is it hindering you?
"Not at all, no lingering effect. He knows I feel good. Maybe keep coming off the bench playing my 20 minutes and maybe I can crack the lineup."
On the losing streak:
"Winning is more important, whatever it is. That's why I'm staying positive and I'm going to do whatever we need to do cause I feel like hopefully there is a goal. Hopefully he sees something and we're going to start winning from it, but we're not winning."
But Jordan says he doesn't want to play you 20 minutes, says he wants to get you your minutes?
"Of course he wants me to play 20 minutes, that's what I'm playing: 25 minutes. That's what he wants."
If you want to follow all things 76ers as it happens, follow on Twitter: Deep Sixer.
i dont blame elton at all...hes put up his norm 20 and 10 when hes gotten run in the last two weeks....yet hes gonna come off the bench now and ai is gonna walk in out of his living room and get 30+ minutes?
id call bullshtein too
I hope Brand keeps posting 20 and 10. If he does it consistently, someone might be willing to take on that joke of a contract. Then, if that happens all it takes is that rumored 3-way Dalembert deal to be reignited for the Sixers to be major players in the 2010 free agency.
Jrue is out tonight with a strained rotator cuff after trying to block a Willie Green dunk yesterday. Really.
but hey, Elton is starting so there's that. 10 pts 3 rebounds
willie fire
is not that exactly what i was talking about you idiot
wow the sixers are awful
they are literally trying as hard as they can to lose to the team that lost to the nets 24 hrs ago
unbelievable
godfather went brain dead again
I'm 100% positive the Sixers would lose to the Nets if the two teams played tomorrow. The Sixers are the worst team in the NBA as it stands right now with the injuries and no AI yet.
just read about what happened to World B. Free's wife last night...farging terrible shame
hmm...weird
QuoteWorld B. Free, the Sixers' ambassador of basketball, is denying fast-spreading reports that his wife was shot and killed in New York yesterday.
First off, he's not married.
According to a story in the New York Daily News, police and relatives said that Audrey Johnson, 51, was shot in the head in Brooklyn. The story reported that Johnson was Free's wife.
Reached through a spokesman this morning, Free said they had a relationship years ago but never were married.
"While they haven't spoken in quite a while, he does want to extend his condolences to her family and friends," the spokesman said, adding that Free would not speak further about the incident.
oh, well than farg that bitch
bitter sunny > happy sunny.
you know...i hear that all the time?
Quote from: SunMo on December 07, 2009, 02:59:51 PM
you know...i hear that all the time?
we want more hate
at least the first 3 quarters were fun
10 in a row and worse than the Knicks
Good to see AI back and the introduction.
Bad basketball again.
they are just god awful
the ai thing is over, it tapped out on the first basket. now its over.
keep losing and get JOHN WALL please
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that mascot is still the worst thing invented.
Quote from: MDS on December 07, 2009, 10:36:26 PM
they are just god awful
the ai thing is over, it tapped out on the first basket. now its over.
keep losing and get JOHN WALL please
I'm convinced the Sixers will win the lottery, because John Wall will be the worst top pick in recent memory. Not saying he is bad, but he isn't on the level of the majority of the top picks of recent memory.
Quote from: LBIggle on December 08, 2009, 12:55:06 AM
that mascot is still the worst thing invented.
other than his former runnin buddy lil g
Quote from: King Cole on December 08, 2009, 01:14:08 AM
I'm convinced the Sixers will win the lottery, because John Wall will be the worst top pick in recent memory. Not saying he is bad, but he isn't on the level of the majority of the top picks of recent memory.
ha thats one of the more retarded things i've read on here. not saying that he's going to be an all-star or not but to say that after only 3 weeks of him basically playing as good or better than expected is confusing.
Did anyone else catch the Iggy shot at the half? LOL
cole often makes no sense
wall has the potential to be a superstar...and depending on his attitude and willingness to learn the position i cant see him not being at worst a very very good nba player....his skill set is insane
actually reminds me a lot of rondo in that he has unparalleled quickness and athleticism but a very suspect jumper at this stage of his career...but hes three inches taller
most crucial is his determination ego and work ethic to become the best player he can...meaning working his ass off on his shot and becoming a good defender...a lot of people have written many unsavory things regarding walls attitude...thats seems to be the only thing that could derail his eventual superstardom
johnny dawkins called him the fastest guard he's ever seen at any level.
cole said he sucks though
Quote from: phattymatty on December 08, 2009, 10:02:36 AM
Quote from: King Cole on December 08, 2009, 01:14:08 AM
I'm convinced the Sixers will win the lottery, because John Wall will be the worst top pick in recent memory. Not saying he is bad, but he isn't on the level of the majority of the top picks of recent memory.
ha thats one of the more retarded things i've read on here. not saying that he's going to be an all-star or not but to say that after only 3 weeks of him basically playing as good or better than expected is confusing.
He could be an all-star. I just haven't been as impressed with him as a lot of other #1 overall picks lately. He could be very good though. I like him a lot. But admittedly, I was probably implied like it was a sure-thing when it definitely isn't it. I shouldn't have phrased it that way.
ha - he might be an all-star. then again, he might not.
awesome.
if only he could have received 4 freshman of the week honors instead of just 3.
last shot for the sixers and they pass to iggy who has the most wide-open shot in the history of basketball and he misses it.
keep the streak alive boys
11 game slide. just beautiful. 2 more before a loss to lebron, then they hit the road. could be epic.
Hey, c'mon now guys. At least the attendance is looking promising.
Philadelphia: 8,701, down 16.4 percent
thats your average paid attendance for this year (not sure if it includes AI game).
another day another loss...the end of the first half was one of the most disgraceful things ive ever seen...two seconds left rockets at the line...they miss the second free throw..sixers are up 5 and instead of eating the ball they inexplicably try to get up the court...but mind you they dont atempt to go up the court with a football pass to someone near the basket...nooooo...thad instead gets the rebound under the basket and fires a way to hard chest pass to jeru the damaja at the free throw line...ball goes off his hands to ariza? who hits at the buzzer...
yes all this happened in two seconds
2yr winning streak against the Rockets down the drain.
February 6th in Houston...better at least win that one.
they need to lose every game. winning will gain nothing. so far they are doing awesome.
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 11, 2009, 10:53:17 PM
...thad instead gets the rebound under the basket and fires a way to hard chest pass to jeru the damaja at the free throw line...
every time you connect hip hop to a player cracks me up
Quintin's on his way
i thought he was making a reference to seabiscuit
holy S they won
god awful win
no worries. they're 1-9 over their last 10 which is the worst in the nba right now. 3rd worst record in the league and minnesota is "hot" right now having won 3 of their last 10.
golden state: 7-17
philly: 6-18
minny: 4-21
brooklyn: 2-22
as long as they finish in the bottom 5, i'm good with the occasional win.
lol, it's hilarious watching iguodala try to play with lebron
Quote from: SunMo on December 16, 2009, 07:51:33 PM
lol, it's hilarious watching iguodala try to play basketball
you wouldnt know a basketball player if he dunked on your menorah
dook is averaging 20 7 and 5 this year...thats pretty god damn impressive...is he lebron james of course not...but hes a really good (not great) player
speaking a really good player jhru the damaja is gonna be one some day...i am so impressed with him
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 17, 2009, 08:21:59 AM
you wouldnt know a basketball player if he dunked on your menorah
dook is averaging 20 7 and 5 this year...thats pretty god damn impressive...is he lebron james of course not...but hes a really good (not great) player
speaking a really good player jhru the damaja is gonna be one some day...i am so impressed with him
take off you 76ers homer glasses
HE SUCKS. he cannot be the focal point of an offense. on top of that, he is almost more irritating to watch than jose reyes. posing after every farging minor basket he makes. taking step back fade away 24 footers late in the 4th. hes got a crappy attitude and an inflated ego and view of himself and his skill set. i dont like him at all. not as a player or a person.
but yes on jrue. i like what i see. if stefanski grew a brain and traded igoudala away for an expiring salary (possible), and got lucky and got someone to do the same for sammy (ehhh), then wed have some $ to throw at fa's this year or next year. not the max amount to get d wade or lebron, but a level below it. on top of finishing in the top 5 of the lotto and getting a baller there (john wall?), this team could be decent by next year.
jrue
wall
thad
Mo
Bosh?
ITS ON
i beg of you...please stop talking about basketball...its painful
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go and jerk off to this. jose reyes but lamer and blacker.
lebron sucks at basketball too
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lebron can do whatever the farg he wants, even look like a douche. he is the best player on the planet.
how dare you compare them.
If you two switched accounts I honestly don't think anyone would notice.
lou will making his return already on saturday against the clips
princeton with us
no chance that game doesnt get cancelled
They beat the celtics?
You're right to use the question mark. I question the reality of last night's game myself, and I'm waiting for the correction to show up on the ESPN website.
Brand with a tip in to win it with 7 seconds left. :-D
not just that, but Pierce and Allen each got shots and amazingly missed
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 18, 2009, 03:02:50 PM
no chance that game doesnt get cancelled
did you bet Todd on that one? (http://www.nba.com/sixers/news/091219_weather.html)
philly got a winter team
lol @ dre dog too late
better go father more illegitimate kids, then youll get the shot off 0.1 faster you farging joke
dre and sammy for tmac's expiring contract
DO IT
simmons suggests:
igoudala, sammy d and kopon for o'neal, q rich and wright
DO IT DO IT DO IT DO IT DO IT
anything to a. free up salary and b. get that embarrassment to civilization off my basketball team
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4777423
tmac wants out. pretty sure he doesnt have a ntc. so...ummm....igy and dalembert? please ed stafnaski. please.
no. farging. way. unless you want tmac for an expiring contract to free up cap room for 2010.
you must be the brains of your group
That is the only value he has, Sarge. His $23M contract.
And these jokers in Houston want Dalembert, Iggy and/or Brand bad.
when does his contract expire? after this season i assume?
i also don't think i'll ever get mds' hate on iggy. it's pretty much as ridiculous as billy beane hating on jroll. iggy is not a "super star" who is going to carry a team through a season but i don't blame him because the sixers have decided to make him "the guy." he's a nice player though who would do quite well playing 2nd fiddle.
i dont his game, i hate him.
his a fine player. i just dont like his attitude, his persona, the way he carries himself on the court. i want to punch him in the face.
so pretty much the same way everyone here feels about you
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fake glasses and well-dressed omg who does he think he is...McNabb?
i dont give a shtein what they are like off the court, i dont want to be their friends. but yes, the glasses are terrible.
The most annoying thing about Iguodala is that he thinks he is way better than he is. He often takes shots that he'll never hit consistently. He tries to play like Kobe and Lebron, but he just isn't close to being as good.
Gotta love when at the end of games when down 2, he'll drive down and jack a 3 with 16 seconds left on the shot clock.
sarge has it correct--he was everyones favorite when playing with iverson because he was the perfect complimentary players that did it all (except shoot consistent jumpers)
iverson rolls, there is nobody on the squad that has the ability like he does...so they extend him, pay him big money to step his game up and he becomes the guy here
a guy with the kind of skill had/has should get every opportunity to be the man. his ceiling as a player still wasnt reached. if youre a fool, you walk into your coaches office and turn down the role. the coaches gave it a shot for 2 years, and Im sure they see the tape and now realize he cant handle it....and will hopefully look to correct it thru FA down the line--just hope that line gets here real fast
i dont think the coaches thought he would step up and become a first/final option guy...anyone whos ever watched basketball could see he doesnt have a handle that would allow him that status...but they did see a poor mans scottie pippen second wheel type that could do everything and do it at a high level...just not a star level
the problem is they added an aging hurt power guy to the lineup instead of a true point (should have drafted rondo) or two that would consume the ball (wade this summer)...iguodala should not ever be the lead on offense...but all to often he has the ball at the top of the circle or out on the wing in a half court set
so why not trade him and his contract for tmac and some salary relief. get a top pick, work with that, thad, mo, lou and jrue and in a year or two buy brand out of his contract. then, you have loads of $ to play with in free agency. at that point, a little someone named kevin durant might be a rfa. i think hes worth the max, and okla city might not match that.
because hes the best player on the team by far
lol @ thinking kevin durant plus lou williams thad young and jeru the damaja consititutes some sort of hope or a contender
i dont think andre is untouchable or anything but you have to be sensible about it...to trade him just to trade him is stupid
the point is to win an nba title
trading him to free up cap space so you can max out for someone 2-3 years down the road is probably your best bet to accomplish this.
the only way you can legit win the nba is by having a top 10 player. gotta either have $$$ to burn or to get lucky in the draft. so why not kill two birds with one stone, trade your best player, lose, and hope it works out. what other option do they have? keep him and keep him the cycle of mediocrity going? sign me up.
whether you hate him or not hes not even close to the problem. His skill set is very hard to come by in the nba and is very much needed on any team
as far as his handle: Ive never been fan of his handle, but I do think its more first step and what to do with the basketball after you get around the defender that separates you from the others. Ive seen this guy drive baseline too many times with ease, pass to the cutter and make it look too easy--driving up his assists totals...but also very inconsistent penetrating from the top of the key--where he gets lost after that and creates to's. it doesnt help though that half these players are in the wrong position, dont move well without the ball and draw their defenders right towards the ball creating less space for anything of value to happen (even Iverson).
I like the guy and appreciate the hustle he brings each night, but really hope a big change is coming soon
melo- 2012
cp3- 2013
dwight- 2013
brand comes off the books in 2013, and you can logically buy him out by 2011 or 2012. is getting one of those 3 guys worth it? will they even be on the market at that point? who farging knows. so what can you do? you can keep tanking and hope to get lucky, thats what. maybe john wall is the next AI or DWade. maybe hes not. but what you got right now isnt going to get anything close to better, so you have to hope that something random will work out.
look at getting AI in 97. look at the cavs getting lebron or the lakers getting kobe. pretty much nothing but dumb luck. thats what you need.
farg melo...he stinks
and why are you acting like the sixers can just by out brand whenever they want...you know that the player has to agree to a buyout?...its not a simple thing and doesnt usually give you a ton of cap space even when it happens...theres no point in even thinking about a buyout right now
Clearing out every salary in hopes of getting one of the best players in the league in free agency 3 years later is retarded. Those guys never hit the market, and when they do there's going to be a more appealing team to go to who offers the max too. You just need to get lucky somehow.
When's the last time one of the best superstars in the league changed teams in free agency which led to a title? It mightve happened recently, seriously I dont know. But it doesnt happen often, and sure as hell wont happen to the Sixers.
QuoteDon't Count On McGrady
Let's get this out of the way before the 76ers face the Sacramento Kings tonight:
The Sixers have spoken with Houston Rockets' executives about Tracy McGrady, rehabbing from major knee surgery. More than once.
The Rockets didn't seem interested in a deal involving Samuel Dalembert, and they still aren't. They wanted no part of Dalembert's 15 percent trade kicker, and they still don't.
At the same time, even though McGrady ($23 million salary) and the Rockets have agreed to part ways, there's no law that says the Rockets have to trade him. They could just let his $23 million contract expire at the end of this season and deduct it from their payroll.
Sixers president/general manager Ed Stefanski says what you expect him to say: "We talk to all the teams on a regular basis, but I won't talk about players and trades. We are looking at any and all options that might improve the team.''
Who knows what any other team might be offering for McGrady? But there is this from Rockets coach Rick Adelman, to Richard Justice of the Houston Chronicle: "The thing people want to write about is who (McGrady) was two years ago. He isn't that right now. We have a whole team. It's not just about what he wants or what he was going to want. It was about what can he do to help us win.''
Bottom line: The Sixers are exploring ways to improve their team.
So are the Rockets.
But don't count on them doing business with each other.
oh well
and @ dillen they have to start planning to compete in 2012 and 2013 cause thats they most realistic thing. they arent going to be competing for anything close to a title for the next 1-2 seasons. a tweak here and tweak there could get them into the 4-6 seed range, sure. but what the farg does that do. give me a title contender or give me the worst team in the league and a chance to win the lotto.
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 30, 2009, 12:19:03 PM
farg melo...he stinks
and why are you acting like the sixers can just by out brand whenever they want...you know that the player has to agree to a buyout?...its not a simple thing and doesnt usually give you a ton of cap space even when it happens...theres no point in even thinking about a buyout right now
cause he aint gonna want to hang around on a shteinhole team and no ones gonna want his contract via a trade. so logic says hell take a buyout down the road so he can go somewhere and help out. or maybe he wont cause he still wants to get paid.
im not huge on melo, but i love cp3. problem is he needs weapons around him to win. what the sixers need is someone who can drop 20-25 each night. there are like 10 guys in the world who can do that. thats how you win titles. is john wall that guy? lets find out.
Quote from: Dillen on December 30, 2009, 03:23:56 PM
Clearing out every salary in hopes of getting one of the best players in the league in free agency 3 years later is retarded. Those guys never hit the market, and when they do there's going to be a more appealing team to go to who offers the max too. You just need to get lucky somehow.
When's the last time one of the best superstars in the league changed teams in free agency which led to a title? It mightve happened recently, seriously I dont know. But it doesnt happen often, and sure as hell wont happen to the Sixers.
exactly...even if one of those studs came here it still wouldnt matter because this team does not have those kind of consistent complimentary players to win a championship.
I mean all you have to do is look past the last 3 decades of nba champions and see what kind of team was on the floor. Do you see any kind of comparable talent, even with 1 of those guys and Iggy today on this Sixers team that could win them a championship?
a superstar + iguodala + the devlopment of the young players particulary jeru could win a title...but who the hell knows how advanced thad speights lou and jeru will be in three years....they might have already hit their ceilings....
its a farging crap shoot any way you look at it
$ wise can expect to extend igy for a 2012-2016 run? also will he accept a lesser role?
NO.
The Sixers are farged for the next century or two. Argument over?
By then David Stern will be dead and the league can be saved.
doubt anyone stayed up last night but a real fun game
iverson has really opened up stuff for this team and iguodalas numbers continue to impress...i hate to use this awful term but he truly is a stat sheet stuffer...and he only has one turnover in his last two games
what has happened to moreese tho...for whatever reason...im guessing his defense which is awful he has fallen into ej's dog hizzle...rodney carney is getting more run...he was big off the bench btw
http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/sixers/20091231_John_Smallwood__McGrady_could_help_Sixers.html
if t-mac and iverson were on the same team wouldn't the space-time continuum rupture?
I'd close my eyes and wish it to be 2003
he should just retitle that piece "the dumb article"
iverson didnt help attendance but mcgrady will?
yao might never play again
iguodala isnt good enough for the sixers but hes the perfect player to pair with yao and hes so good that he would show a committment to winning?...then why wouldnt the sixers just keep him to show that same committment
and why would you dump iguodala just to get rid of dalemberts contract which only has a year and a half left
not sure why anyone thinks Young is untouchable. Nobody on this team has that mark--regardless of ceiling. I fully understand that sometimes you give up your most valuable assets to get a better investment down the line..but if youre going to build, you do it anyway possible...especially the way this squad is moving.
shtein...Id give up Thad, Dalembert and Brand... and keep Iggy
yeah exactly...so you give up iguodala to get rid of his deal and then instead of iguodala and a superstar plus whatever else you deem the team needs now they need a superstar AND another iguodala plus whatever else
iguodala isnt a piece you build around but hes a damn good piece to build with
but by 2013 when they can legit win, do you want to long term igoudala again? come on son.
Quote from: MDS on December 31, 2009, 01:07:25 PM
but by 2013 when they can legit win, do you want to long term igoudala again? come on son.
why not...he will theoretically be in the prime of his career and only 30...if they are ready to win then you easily extend him...if they arent you probably dont
you are making rash black and white decisions right now based on some hypothetical situation three years out...thats not how its done
im saying if we free up cap space now for a guy who wont be a part of the plans and also help ourselves tank by getting rid of the best player then why not do it
maybe something can happen this summer if we a little $ to play with. obviously not lebron or wade, but a step below combined with john wall. maybe.
we
you got to love heads who always dream that management wants to tank seasons and get rid of solid players
what the farg is having igoudala going to be accomplish for the next 3 seasons
they suck with or without him
so trade the whole team and then do what in three years?
trade them again.
they are getting wade and lebron you didnt hear
i heard durant but i dont know how reliable the info is
lol
how could you not want to tank this year and try and win the lotto. what other plan is there to become a title contender?
wait iguodala sucks but trading him would automatically make them the worst team in the nba
they arent getting the number 1 pick next year...get over it
and even if they did by trading the whole team you think in three years theyd be better off with john wall and nothing else than they are now
the best way to go imo is try to develop what you have and when you lose brand in a few years try to add a real superstar and see what happens...both ways are playing the lottery but i like my chances better than destroying the team and hoping you get a good draft pick
seriously not a fan but even i wouldn't wish t-mac on the sixers. that would qualify as cruel and inhuman punishment.
I'd wish his expiring contract on them.
Great game tonight. Up by 13 and then blew it.
Bums.
almost blew it again in Denver, but held on. very nice contribution from Jason Smith and Carney
won 3 of 4 on the road--John Wall here we come
wall + durant = 2015 title
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 03, 2010, 10:46:44 PM
wall + durant = 2015 title
has it really gotten that bad that as fans, we're coming up with 5 year plans now?
the sixers logistically cant win a title for at least 20 years
Quote from: Sgt PSN on January 03, 2010, 10:49:27 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 03, 2010, 10:46:44 PM
wall + durant = 2015 title
has it really gotten that bad that as fans, we're coming up with 5 year plans now?
that's a step up from our previous assumption, that they would suck 5 years from now as well
Barkley is hosting SNL after the Eagles game, so there's that
Golden State has a worse record and the Indy whities tied the Sixers. Goodbye Wall
wall is a net anyway
The team with the worst record hasn't won the lottery in a while. So that isn't a lock by any means.
the point is he cant be a sixer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4y_awwptf30&feature=popt00us02
yea its really necessary to be the 9th seed to miss a shot at this
lol
Iverson wore a Cowboys hat to last night's game (http://www.the700level.com/2010/01/allen-iverson-rocks-cowboys-hat-to-game-last-night.html)
Iverson has made it very clear many times that he grew up a huge Cowboys fan. There are other pictures of him sporting the gear...look it up if you care that much
Barkley was at the Eagles game yesterday.
I asked him what was wrong with the Sixers and he said "oh man...they're turrrrble."
outscored by 20+ in the 2nd half in a home game against the Wiz
speaking of 20
a 20 20 night for the godfather
shut up homer
11,000 @ the game. probably like 8500 gate. well done, stefasnki.
Quote from: MDS on January 05, 2010, 11:57:17 PM
shut up homer
11,000 @ the game. probably like 8500 gate. well done, stefasnki.
and (1) watching on the nba package
few sixer thoughts...
1. great cooney piece in the daily today on allen...for a while the last year and a half i was even having some ill thoughts about ai...which really made me hate myself as i am an unabashed iverson groupie...easily my favorite basketball player ever...but this piece really has some great quotes and shows what i said when the sixers signed him....that he was truly home and where he belongs
http://www.philly.com/dailynews/sports/20100108_Bob_Cooney__Sixerville__Iverson_s_been_good_for_the_team_so_far.html
2. where are all the people who were all on thad youngs cack saying hes easily better than iguodala...move iguodala thad is the future blah blah blah...people talk about iguodalas limitations that prevent him from being a superstar and no doubt he has them....not abgreat handle not a great shooter...but thad has limitations that are stopping him from being a good nba player...absolutely no handle whatsoever non existent game from outside of like three feet...iguodala is so far superior to thad its really a joke
3. have we talked about the awfulness that is ed pickney?
4. how much is july 1 gonna hurt this year when the best FA class of all time hits the market and the sixers have elton brand as their 7th or 8th man...the anger rises by the day
5. how impressive is jeru....i will make no declarations about how hes gonna be a stud down the road or anything like that but for his age he is super impressive...still cant get over how good a defender he is...he literally might be the best on the team...and he doesnt make to many awful mistakes with the ball...hes yet to do anything great...but for one of the youngest players in the whole league getting real minutes and not looking out of his league is a very good watch
6. i dont care what anyone says or how bad they are........i like watching this team
1. yes
2. thad isnt and wont ever be as good as igy, but realistically there isnt a scenario where andre igoudala is a sixer and they are competitive for an nba title. same doesnt go for thad. so for that, id try and trade igy. if getting rid of him and sammy makes them a low level player this summer, then good. if it gets picks, then great. but realistically they are farged because of brand and thats all on the abortion that is edward j. stefanski.
3. like god awful. unwatchable. worse than salmi. where in the world is steve mix.
4. you were on stefanskis nuts cause he cold called wip and talked a little more honestly than most gms do but hes the reason this franchise is a colossal failure.
5. jrue + john wall together in the backcourt. yes they are both smaller than munsons dong but it would be awesome.
6. no one cares. just call a spade a spade and know you are wasting oxygen watching a team that wont come remotely close to winning anything for the next 10 years.
i still love stefanski...and i dont even really blame him for elton...i way more blame the sixers for firing billy king when they did...they hired stefanski to makes a splash and he did what they wanted him...where as billy would have waited it out and had his eyes on the 2010 prize(s)
neither jeru nor wall are small...they arent penny hardaway either but def not even close to small
two 6-4 guards in the same backcourt? i mean ill do it, but youd like to see a guy 6-6 in there that can size up with the other big guards out there.
what on gods earth are you talking about two six four guards in the same backcourt...do you really think they are getting wall
and you know dwayne wade is 6-4 right?
if jrue or wall could drop 25 a night id be good
also how are they not in the running to get wall. theyre gonna wind up in the bottom 5 and have a shot. not great, but a shot.
and im out covering a hockey game but lol @ this loss. sammy d needs to be got.
sammy had a solid game
its just unreal how they completely fold at around the 11 minute mark of the 4th quarter every nite
their problem is they dont have a stud player that can put an end to other teams runs...making stops would help as well of course...but who is the guy on their team that after the opponent reels off 6 or 8 pts in row is going to put an end to it by scoring a few buckets...it should be lou but hes a horrible finisher...they have no one...
so when they are up 12 and the other team reels off 6 in row who scores a couple buckets in repsonse to get it back to double digits...the answer is no one
i know, skippy
thats why i want to tank and get johnny wall who could be that guy
but then i get yelled at
also check out this gem from philly.com comments
Quotei want to see hoosiers basketball. get dalembert resigned and trade players for draft picks. sign lebron in the summer and get young guys to play around him. fire jordan and hire avery johnson. I have nothing to contribute
I really wish there was a way they could find a way to make a deal with the Rockets for McGrady's contract. People seem to really want Elton Brand down here...not that their words on the radio mean much, but it sure would be nice.
The only way they are getting T-Mac's contract is Iguodala and a young player.
Which would be moronic for the Sixers. I want Wall too, but at the same time you can't give up too much just to increase that chance. If they'd take Brand or Sammy the deal would be done already, but no one wants them.
Maybe the Cavs will take Brand at the deadline if he continues to play well, but even that is less than probable.
http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/20100108_Jordan_gets_no_guarantee_from_Stefanski.html
QuoteEd Stefanski, the 76ers' president and general manager, would not guarantee tonight that Eddie Jordan will remain the team's coach for the entire season
It's nice of the general manager to stand behind the guy he just hired. Such loyalty.
I can't believe I'm actually listening to the Sixers/Hornets game on WIP. farging Eagles :boom
the godfather is runnin shtein right now...holy crap hes been good
hi haterz!
whats up dook
this run is gonna lock them into the 10 or 9 seed. i hope you're happy.
i already told you long ago that they had zero chance for one of the top picks and you asked why....now you know
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 12, 2010, 06:33:23 AM
the godfather is runnin shtein right now...holy crap hes been good
hi haterz!
if it wasnt for that lucky off-balanced hook shot he made, sammy might of been the sole reason for the loss last night down the stectch. the mistakes he made with 4.5 minutes to go when they were up 8 or so were so ridiculous.
has he been playing well these past couple games..sure Ill give him that...but has he also been playing like the sammy we all know and hate--no doubt.
(http://img.moronail.net/img/5/7/1257.jpg)
nothing to do with hate son...watch the basketball games first then come on here and tell me how good hes playing.
you looking at a stat line doesnt even come close to the real story
Another game, another blown lead. This time 20 pts.
Good game to lose though lottery-wise.
After a 2-day visit to Haiti and showing up for tonight's loss minutes before gametime, Dalembert was breaking down in the locker room talking about what he saw.... :-\
http://www.dalembertfoundation.org
great
he still needs to get traded
its amazing how fast a player can deteriorate so fast. man, watching Brand play ball tonight was painful.
there are 3 teams that have the money to take on big salaries come the feb 18th deadline....houston, dallas, and cleveland
if there is one team/owner that has the balls to pull something its Cuban. the way Dirk is playing and Kidd on his last limb, now might be the time to make a move like that. any kind of deal with either of these teams will most likely require iggy
eddie jordans game to game rotations are unbelievably absurd baffling infuriating and any other exasperating adjective you wanna use...get his farging dumb ass out of here now
thad 3-12
igy 9-21
wow
8.8% chance to get wall right now.
http://espn.go.com/nba/lottery2010/mockdraft (http://espn.go.com/nba/lottery2010/mockdraft)
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 26, 2010, 08:17:29 AM
eddie jordans game to game rotations are unbelievably absurd baffling infuriating and any other exasperating adjective you wanna use...get his farging dumb ass out of here now
princeton with us
and to top it off he had this to say:
-He can't make them have a positive attitude.
-He can't make them learn to bite like a dog when they were soft as puppies.
-He can't get guys to drive the ball instead off settling for jumpers.
-He can't get guys to be leaders when they don't have it in them.
-He can't expect a guy to be their best defender unless he is their best offensive player.
Stefanski should pack up his shtein and go too
he cant them to do anything because they have no clue what he wants...they are getting farging yo-yo'ed in and out of the lineup/rotation on a nightly basis
godfather sits out the fourth quarter last night after playing some of the best basketball of his career lately?
speights barely plays anymore...then he will get 23 minutes out of nowhere
lou williams starts one night then isnt even the first guy off the bench the next
jason smiths middle name is DNP
brand has been in and out of the starting lineup all year
thad lost his starting job
iguodala is the ONLY player on the team that has been exempt from this
its a joke
jordan raves a couple days ago about his new lineup with jeru starting and then parks him on the bench for most of the second half and all of the 4th quarter while dhanty jones is raping lou williams on the block...even if you dont wanna the damaja in put carney on him...but noooooooooo he stands on the sideline like a farging zombie and watches lou who is a hideous defender get murdered by jones on like five of seven possesions down the stretch
this basically says it all about the so-called "defensive minded" Eddie Jordan--
Roger Mason Jr.:
"I can't say that I really was the most experienced defender when I left Washington, I did the best I thought I could do. But when I got in this system [with the Spurs] that first year really stripped me of a lot of my bad habits, and I've learned how to compete defensively."
If dude stays on, its not going to be even close that Allen Iverson stunted the growth of Jrue, it will be Jordan. Speaking of AI, although he doesnt play a lick of defense anyway, he crushes any style of princeton offense jordan tries to run and I love every minute of it. One thing that irks the shtein out of me with any NBA coach, and you can tell this is carried over in practice, is a guy who sits silently on the bench during a game. He is pushover Mo x's 10, but at least Mo had the some intelligence to put a system in place that worked with the talent on the floor.
Quote from: reese125 on January 26, 2010, 07:32:11 PM
-He can't expect a guy to be their best defender unless he is their best offensive player.
ok, i find all of his comments to be vomit inducing, but that last one takes the farging cake. i'd expect a comment like that to come from munson, not a professional basketball coach. that comment literally makes it sound like he's never even heard of basketball before.
Article by Marc Spears on Yahoo
QuoteLeague executives list Phoenix forward Amar'e Stoudemire and Philadelphia 76ers swingman Andre Iguodala(notes) among the biggest names most likely to be moved before the trade deadline – and there's even a chance they might be dealt for each other. If the cost-cutting Sixers did such a deal, they could try to use Stoudemire in a sign-and-trade during the offseason and not re-sign him...
jeru starts the game again last night then doesnt play in the second half...and this on a night when lou williams got eight minutes...just baffling
jeru should be playing in the 30 minute a night range..i realize hes young but hes shown to be competant...if he couldnt play in the league yet id be all for keeping him on the bench and letting him leasrn thru practice but he can play and should be....id have him in every possible situation i could
I beg Stefanski to do something before Feb 18th
there is no doubt after watching the Dallas/Phoenix game the other night that Cuban should bite the bullet, eat Sammy's trade kicker and get another center behind Dampier. that dude can barely run the floor. Josh Howard is garbage this year and has lost it. Iggy would fit so nice there. get the shtein done.
edit: Ive said for a while that I would want to keep Iggy because I like what he does end to end on the floor, but as each passing day goes by and watching each game I realize that keeping him could leave this team even further behind. Hes a waste on this team, with this coach and this GM, but hes a true asset that a contender could use. With the right package of players, and perhaps even a third team in the mix, the Sixers could start fresh in 2011 with a new coach and player personnel. Im just hoping that Ed S doesnt farg it up and use the teams first rd pick if things go down.
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 28, 2009, 10:05:59 AM
hopefully game 1 of the series gets rained out so we can all enjoy the sixers opener in full tonight
awsome daily news cover today
(http://media.philly.com/storage/dailynews/covers/back.jpg)
lol @ the first post. it's now pretty much igy's worst nightmare. a photo of kobe bryant slamming and a headline announcing the hiring of howie roseman as eagles gm.
yeah does it get worse than that...makes my blood boil....a picture and headline like that should raise the masses but no one cares about the sixers so it will do nothing
the sixers have beaten people to the point where it doesnt matter any more
think phils 95-00. they were awful and people just stopped caring.
Agreed, hard to watch a team that no matter how big the lead you know there is a very good chance that they will blow it.
2 weeks until the nba trading deadline and they are still trying to win games and there is no sign of a shakeup
its getting to the point where ed stafanski might be the worst gm in the history of the city. god does he blow.
sixers are the loudest amongst talks right now for a trade flappy...have been for a while.
stefanskis job couldnt be more on the line right now. question is does he/comcast have enough time to just pull a salary dump and rebuild or does he go for a quick fix and try and make a pointless run. take a guess.
chad ford reporting suns have agreed to trade stoudamire and junk for iguodala and sammy but sixers are holding it up
please please please bring admundson back.
What the farg could be holding up shipping those two clowns outta here
http://www.csnphilly.com/pages/landing_09/?blockID=175381&feedID=729
Get the deal done please.
man, imagine the defense on this team if stefanski tossed iggy and dalembert to the suns for amare in that trade
they might not win a single game after the all-star break and that much closer to a lottery pick
that should be the point, but you know amare will go on a tear in the east and some others will pick it up and they will squeeze in the playoffs. i actually like iggy but blow it all up now.
amare will sleep walk through games and barely show up if even at all. not that i blame him or care.
if the sixers deal for amare they better get an assurance of some sort that hes not gonna pick up his option for next year otherwise this deal makes no sense
oh i didnt even know he an option
i wouldnt past stefanski to ignore that or assume amare wont pick it up
He said he might pick up his option, but he only said that because he so badly doesn't want to be a Sixer. There is no chance he'd pick it up if he were traded here. Who would want to be a part of this mess?
someone who wants to get paid for a year of doing nothing
All the reports I'm reading says he wants to play for a contender.
he can play for a contender in 15 months when the market might be better than it is now and he wont have to compete with the monster 2010 free agent class
not that theres any guarantee of getting with a contender in the nba because if the team was good enough to begin with then they cant afford a max or close to a max deal anyway
one of Stefanskis problems here is hes trying to shed salary--and get a young piece back to justify his moves of letting Iggy, Dalembert/Brand go to keep fans in the seats.
that in my opinion is the wrong route to take that could very well end up killing all trade opps. nobody that comes back here via trade is going to be as good as the players you give away, nor are the player/s going to be the cornerstone or a major contributing factor of success for this franchise.
if Cuban asks for Iggy and Brand you jump all over it, take the expirings, blow him in the back office, and shake his hand goodbye. the goal at this point should be to shed as much salary as possible and look to be a big player in FA in the 2 years ahead. I just think Stefanski is nervous as farg right now which will result in the wrong moves
godfather with 13 straight games of 10+ rebounds....only one other player in the nba has done that this year
someone not watching the game guess who it is
Dwight
good guess but to obvious if that was the answer i wouldnt have asked the question...
btw did you peep the boys tonight...lookin GOOD son!
They're playing here tomorrow night...I'll likely be in the house.
you arent gonna take a shot at tonights trivia phreak?
bynam?
another good guess
hint: its a whitey
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 05, 2010, 09:27:34 PM
godfather with 13 straight games of 10+ rebounds....only one other player in the nba has done that this year
someone not watching the game guess who it is
David Lee?
negative
this is such a great question
K Love? Automatically thought Kaman but since he's on the Clippers, nobody can be that consistent
yes...nice
k love
Wow
btw coincidence they are winning when ai is out the lineup
22-23 from the line tonight in a really nice comeback win
good two game southern swang
four in a row overall
and i know ive been annoyingly on his bandwagon but i really cant say enough good things about jeru.....i feel the sixers have their point of the future and a really good one at that
I ended up not going. Got jammed up with a bunch of shtein today and really didn't feel like driving any more. I watched it on TV though and almost put my head through the wall during the 2nd quarter.
phreak how long is your drive from crib to stadiums/arenas in houston
Probably about 20 minutes to the Reliant Stadium/Astrodome area and the same to Minute Maid/Toyota Center.
I live in the NW part of the city. Reliant is SW and Minute Maid/Toyota are downtown.
Parking is a bitch at the baseball and basketball joints because of them being down town. But the good thing is downtown is virtually nonexistent after 5pm or the weekends. Literally a ghost town. Once you break free from the initial traffic jams you're ok.
why are they winning
Because the Sixers pretty much do everything wrong. They are decent at drafting, but other than that, they suck at everything else.
way to much talent on this team not to win...unfortunately not enough talent to be a player in the league
Kate fagan dropping bombs and rightfully so...
http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/sixers/20100207_Inside_the_Sixers___Sense_and_insensibility.html (http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/sixers/20100207_Inside_the_Sixers___Sense_and_insensibility.html)
Quote
and now it has come to sitting rookie Jrue Holiday for most second halves.
im still waiting for an explanantion on this ^^^^
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 26, 2010, 07:43:10 PM
jordan raves a couple days ago about his new lineup with jeru starting and then parks him on the bench for most of the second half and all of the 4th quarter
there isnt an explanation
eddie jordan impulsively makes in game decisions and thinks its the best route to go. theres your answer.
sounds like the fat man across the street.
Eddie Jordan sucks. Tony DiLeo was better.
5 in a row. Doomed. The Wolves throwback jawns are cool though
(http://a.espncdn.com/combiner/i?img=media%2Fgettyphoto%2FGYI0059531321.jpg)
huge crowd
the wolves haven't been in the league long enough to have throwbacks, have they?
Ed...the start of blizzard #2 this week might be partially the reason for the crowd LOL
so....500 people stayed home?
im pretty sure easy hasnt levittown since nixon was prez
Quote from: Sgt PSN on February 09, 2010, 09:35:24 PM
the wolves haven't been in the league long enough to have throwbacks, have they?
yep, 20 years, same as the Magic (and they're wearing throwbacks too)
(http://a.espncdn.com/combiner/i?img=media%2Fgettyphoto%2FGYI0059518651.jpg)
Quote from: KDS on February 09, 2010, 09:44:04 PM
im pretty sure easy hasnt levittown since nixon was prez
before my time Todd
just got finished watching the game....easy tonight was not the night to make any attendance comments...we all know it is not good...but pg is exactly correct in saying it was waaaaay more empty than it normally is because of the weather
i knew he played lights out on the defensive end just by watching the game but then i looked at the box score +/-...jeru was a +18 in 21 one minutes...thats just crazy
Quote from: BigEd76 on February 09, 2010, 09:45:56 PM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on February 09, 2010, 09:35:24 PM
the wolves haven't been in the league long enough to have throwbacks, have they?
yep, 20 years, same as the Magic (and they're wearing throwbacks too)
i know they've been around 20 years, i'm just having a hard believing (coming to grips with) the fact that anything that came out in 1990 can be considered "throw back."
all throwback rules got thrown out when the eagles went swedish
not that it matters but theres a 100% chance every last player on the twolves was more concerned with getting to their hotel rooms in charlotte than playing this game
for the matter the chief concern for them is all star break plans
not really...they had won four games in a row coming in...they are playing the season out for real...at least so far
going for a six pack tonight and only 4 and a half out of the playoffs
bron bron better watch out come round 1
stop. you are not funny.
no hedo tonight
sixers have not allowed a three pointer and somehow are still down 21
the raptors have made a three pointer in 911 straight games
scratch all that....they just buried a trey
willie green put the stamp on why he shouldnt even still be on this team with that stupid ass foul on calderon
great effort, but should of never got that big of a lead in the first place. bad defensive adjustments once again by jordan after the timeouts
munson... stay the farg out of this thread please
munson likes his basketball like the good old boys down the american legion.
green didnt foul him...it was a total phantom call
as fun as the comeback was i was never really that excited because in the nba no one ever completes those comebacks...there was no question they wouldnt be able to finish the game
sometimes they do (http://espn.go.com/nba/recap?gameId=291221004)
but a close Sixers loss is OK with me
Im sure my frustration with this team will be at its peak level after the all star break when a trade is "attempted"
big question is does Ed Stef admit failure and regroup or pull the infamous band aid?
the hope is that he sees the big picture....i wouldnt count on it
Quote from: KDS on February 10, 2010, 10:45:28 PM
recycle another racist joke from IGY as a hang from his balls since I can't think of anything myself
Fixed.
just admit watching a bunch of black people--and not good black in the donovan mcnabb sense, were talking gangsta black--play hoops makes you uncomfortable.
it will be so much easier.
So there are no 'gangsta black' people in football??
It has nothing to do with color and everything to do with the sport. Watching it is incredibly boring. Unless it's the playoffs or it's the final 2 or 3 minutes of a close game.
there are plenty but its offset by loads of good ol white boys.
the nba is almost exclusively rough around the edges black and foreign. MA aint buyin into that.
if you dont like basketball because you think its boring yet you like football or baseball you are just a god awful dumbass human being. those sports dont have 1/10th of the action hoops has. you farging retard.
If it was about color than I'd enjoy plenty of college basketball.
There is more action in one play on the football field than in an entire quarter of basketball. Lol at trotting down a court, dribbling, and shooting being "action". Scoring just aint that exciting when there are 40-50 scores a game from each team. I'm just not interested in watching a sport that would only require me getting dressed and driving to the nearest park to play myself.
Baseball also gets very laboring to watch, and during the regular season I find myself a lot of times just having the game on in the backround while I do something else, or switching between the game and a television show.
In the end, none of this has anything to do with the fact that no one cares about the 76ers right now.
then shut the farg up and go away you stupid racist.
*gargle gargle gargle*
How dem nuts taste boy?
Quote from: KDS on February 10, 2010, 11:57:34 PM
there are plenty but its offset by loads of good ol white boys.
the nba is almost exclusively rough around the edges black and foreign. MA aint buyin into that.
if you dont like basketball because you think its boring yet you like football or baseball you are just a god awful dumbass human being. those sports dont have 1/10th of the action hoops has. you farging retard.
igy's posting from your account now, isn't he?
munsons 4.2 40 time doesnt translate to basketball
nba tonight just did their best five dunkers of all time and i was so glad to see J was number one...i was certain jordan would be
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 11, 2010, 12:18:24 AM
munsons 4.2 40 time doesnt translate to basketball
A 4.5 might.
as of this morning per chad ford --which is always very speculative :
For the Suns, the Stoudemire-Hickson (expiring contract of Ilguaskas) trade would be something of a last resort. The Suns have been hoping to land more than just Hickson and financial relief for Stoudemire.
In particular, the Suns are still holding out hope that Philadelphia will come to the table and agree to a deal sending Andre Iguodala and Samuel Dalembert to Phoenix. The Suns have sweetened their offer to the 76ers by including Leandro Barbosa in a package with Stoudemire. Also possible is a three-way trade that would send Hickson and Barbosa (along with Ilgauskas) to Philly, Stoudemire to Cleveland and Iguodala and Dalembert to Phoenix.
Expect the Suns to turn up the heat significantly on the Sixers on Monday.
word is stefanski doesnt thing amare will play well brand, so its a no go
im at a loss for words with him. he is worse than ed wade.
so who else is pumped about Larry Brown wanting to come back again zzzzzzzzzz
I never heard that. the reports I was reading was that jordan was very close in taking full ownership of the Bobcats and that he was all about staying there
They should hire Aaron McKie as the coach.
Or Fran Dunphy.
Or John Bolaris.
Or maybe even Big Daddy Graham.
6ers are not getting Amare and are not trading Iggy before Thursday. I'd bet my life on both.
He also apparently turned down a 3-way where the Sixers end up with Beasley and filler from the Heat.
thats more like it tonight
more of this
Quote from: King Cole on February 16, 2010, 08:11:45 PM
He also apparently turned down a 3-way where the Sixers end up with Beasley and filler from the Heat.
Thats would have worked out great for Beasley..you can get some good weed in Philly.
Stefanski might go down as the worst gm this franchise has ever had. At this point hes petrified and has no clue what to do.
Which is upsetting, because the Sixers GM job was what Ed has been working for his whole life..you'd think once he finally got the keys, he would know how to drive.
He clearly hid behind Thorns shadow in NJ.
its ironic because eddie jumped the gun signing brand and didnt use patience when he needed to and now when he needs to starting blowing shtein up and make bold moves he cant/wont do it
Clearly, he wanted to make a splash during his first FA spending period and it obviously looks like he made the wrong move. Personally, I was calling for Josh Smith - as I know a lot of people were.
He was merely an onlooker during the biggest trade (JKidd) the Nets made during his tenure and never was a big force in the free agent market in Jersey. His skill lies in talent evaluation - especially international talent - and even that hasn't been proven yet..I'm not as sold on Jrue as you are (yet).
Quote from: Die-Hard on February 17, 2010, 10:02:06 AM
Clearly, he wanted to make a splash during his first FA spending period
definitely...ive mentioned several times in this thread that i actually blame the front office for the brand signing more than stefanski...billy king had a plan in place that was moving forward...by firing him mid season and putting stefanski in it created massive pressure on the new guy to do something huge in the summer no matter what and thats what he did
the sixers are to the detroit lions what the flyers are to the taterskins.
Quote from: Die-Hard on February 17, 2010, 10:02:06 AM
Clearly, he wanted to make a splash during his first FA spending period and it obviously looks like he made the wrong move. Personally, I was calling for Josh Smith - as I know a lot of people were.
He was merely an onlooker during the biggest trade (JKidd) the Nets made during his tenure and never was a big force in the free agent market in Jersey. His skill lies in talent evaluation - especially international talent - and even that hasn't been proven yet..I'm not as sold on Jrue as you are (yet).
as far a jrue--its definitely way too early to even fully evaluate the kid, but when hes on the floor you can still can get an idea of the offensive skill set he could possess, length, quickness, and drive potential
I dont think he has the jump to make him a strong finisher around the basket, but I do see him getting by defenders for assists with pull-up potential. the sixers just need shooters to make that equation work
as far as defense--this will be his strong suit. he has a great wingspan and strong base that can easily make him one the better pg perimeter defenders which will enable him to stay on the floor and keep his minutes high
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 17, 2010, 10:08:35 AM
Quote from: Die-Hard on February 17, 2010, 10:02:06 AM
Clearly, he wanted to make a splash during his first FA spending period
definitely...ive mentioned several times in this thread that i actually blame the front office for the brand signing more than stefanski...billy king had a plan in place that was moving forward...by firing him mid season and putting stefanski in it created massive pressure on the new guy to do something huge in the summer no matter what and thats what he did
eds worst move wasnt even the fa signings, its clearly the hiring of eddie jordan. I mean christ you give mo cheeks an extension, then you fire him, then you bring on a guy that is a total crap shoot. when you look at the princeton offense its based on things like constant off-ball movement, back cuts, 3pt shooting ability, ball movement, high basketball IQ to read/setup plays, etc.
the players on this team dont represent any of that. maybe he and jordan were hoping to instill that, but when you watch them play there isnt even a spec of it during their offensive set-ups. this falls squarely on stefanaski's hiring and the reason for the major decline from last year. dude needs to go... with the quickness
While I was all for it at the time (and mainly for sentimental reasons), once they brought Chuck back, all plans for how the team was supposed to play on the floor went out the window.
he has the potential to be a great finisher from the lead guard spot....hes got a strong body now and hes friggin only 19...hes long as you mentioned and he's 6-4
shtein i can jump higher than deron williams and he can finish
in terms of being a good finisher i have more concern with his slow first step and getting past people than i do at the basket
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 17, 2010, 10:35:29 AM
shtein i can jump higher than deron williams and he can finish
:sly
well if hes going to be a great finisher, then that equates to getting by the defender and finishing at the basket. If you say he has a slow first step then dont even expect him to do anything but a couple of dribble-arounds and pass around the perimeter. he'll be on the bench in no time
I dont even need him be the flashiest player on the court, all I really care about is getting by the first guy (which the majority of starting pg's can) and dishing it out to the perimeter or cutter. all he has to do is get to the middle of the paint on a consistent basis-which I think in time he'll be able to do
im not saying he is slow...he isnt explosive like a brandon jennings but again either is deron williams...i was just responding to your assertion that he wont be able to finish because he cant jump high enough...thats not even a slight concern...and IF there is one it would be his first step
Rockets offered Budinger and T-Mac for Iguodala and Dalembert and the Sixers turned it down.
So Stefanski rejected the following deals:
Amare, Barbosa, Richardson for Iguodala, Lou Williams, Dalembert
Beasley and filler in 3-way for Iguodala and Dalembert
T-Mac and Budinger for Iguodala and Dalembert
Awesome.
its irrelevant anyway....what exactly do you think would happen if they got rid of those two guys right now....you think a big time FA is coming to play with lou williams and thaddeus young...lol
i can see you wanting them to have a better draft pick but the chances of getting lucky enough to find a franchise player there are slim to none
in other words stop obsessing with all these trades...if they make one fine if they dont things arent going to be any different
they are years and years away from competing in the league
igoudala
dalembert
brand
for
ming
mcgrady
BOOM
no way yao would ever come to philly. can't eat cheesesteaks with chopsticks.
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 17, 2010, 09:13:31 PM
its irrelevant anyway....what exactly do you think would happen if they got rid of those two guys right now....you think a big time FA is coming to play with lou williams and thaddeus young...lol
i can see you wanting them to have a better draft pick but the chances of getting lucky enough to find a franchise player there are slim to none
in other words stop obsessing with all these trades...if they make one fine if they dont things arent going to be any different
they are years and years away from competing in the league
They could sit on the money for a while until they could sign a big FA. Meanwhile, they stockpile top 5-10 picks for a few years and actually start to build something. Because at this rate, the team won't have money for a good 5 years as long as they keep Iguodala and/or Brand.
QuoteTrade Scenario
Should the Sixers have traded Iguodala and Dalembert for Tracy McGrady and rookie guard-forward Chase Budinger?
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Tonight, ESPN.com is reporting that the Houston Rockets, long trying to trade Tracy McGrady and his $23 million expiring contract, have narrowed their choices to the New York Knicks and Chicago Bulls. According to this article, the Rockets expect to decide tomorrow on where to send McGrady. SI.com is laying out the details of the deal between Houston and the Knicks, implying that's likely the deal that will go down.
As recently as a few weeks ago, the Rockets (and McGrady) were linked to the 76ers in trade rumors. Since that time, it's become clear that Sixers President and General Manager Ed Stefanski does not want to deal for expiring contracts, wanting only to entertain trade scenarios that will improve the current, on-floor product. Stefanski reiterated this position before tonight's embarrassing 105-78 loss to the *Miami Heat* at the Wachovia Center.
Said Stefanski: "We're very active and a lot of teams are looking for us to do financial deals, to send back expiring contracts and we want to improve the product on the court." There's more from Stefanski in tomorrow's notes package from tonight's game.
Bottom line is Sixers won't make a trade for McGrady's expiring contract if that's the heart of the deal.
There's all kinds of opinions about whether the Sixers should trade Andre Iguodala for that expiring contract and, perhaps, a good young player. There's the thought that Iguodala and Thaddeus Young play the same position -- someone has to go. There's the thought that it's time to move on from this plan.
There's also the thought that Iguodala is the team's best player and it would be the worst move to trade him for an expiring contract, essentially giving away your best player for an uncertain future (so to speak).
Here's something hard and fast to consider as the trading deadline comes closer and it's becoming less and less likely the Sixers will make a franchise-changing deal:
According to a source with first-hand knowledge of the situation, the Houston Rockets were willing to trade McGrady and rookie guard-forward Chase Budinger for Andre Iguodala and Samuel Dalembert. In fact, the Rockets wanted to do this deal. The money works and the Rockets were willing to take on Iguodala's $56 million remaining contract and Dalembert's $12 million next year.
Is that a deal the Sixers should have done?
Disgusting job, Ed Stefanski.
You absolutely make that trade. Stop the charades that you're going to improve the on-court product. You cut bait on those two deals, FIRE EDDIE JORDAN, and start over.....again.
with the impending lockout and fact that they burning $ over there while snider is much more focused on his crappy hockey team, something tells me the sixers are gonna stay put and just let this happen.
within 4 years elton brands expiring contract will take over for tracy mcgradys expiring contract as the expiring contract to get, but snider will fire stefanski before hes gonna throw the max at john wall who his dying to get the farg out of jersey, and new gm aaron mckie will feel the need to make a splash, so he'll throw an enormous amount of money at al horford.
and the cycle will go on.
Quote from: King Cole on February 17, 2010, 09:38:08 PM
They could sit on the money for a while until they could sign a big FA. Meanwhile, they stockpile top 5-10 picks for a few years and actually start to build something. Because at this rate, the team won't have money for a good 5 years as long as they keep Iguodala and/or Brand.
this isnt the nfl...you dont stockpile draft picks...you get lucky and hit on a superstar or you tread water
what big FA are you talking about and when?
no big FA is coming to play with moreese speights and lou williams
you might get an aging guy like brand who doesnt have much value on the open market but youre not getting a durant lebron wade ect type
it really is disgusting how many FA's are/were available this year
for a closer look you can peep this out
http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=12156 (http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=12156)
wow...so a stud like Kevin Martin and players gets traded to the Rockets for McGrady and Carl Landry
I hope Stefanski is paying real close attention because this just another example of a gm knowing you need to hit rock bottom as a franchise to get out of the basement and land a future star/s.
lol
http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/13536/bucks-and-sixers-serious-trade-talks
Gargano just reported about some possible Sixer trade with Milwaukee that is absolute garbage for garbage
igs with the link
haha thats his trade?
royel lives in the apt building my boy works at. hes supposed to get mo a spot there and im suppose to pose his assistant on move in day. farg those plans
i'm annoyed that someone took the time to write about that trade.
Junk ass trade.
Quote from: phattymatty on February 18, 2010, 12:50:04 PM
i'm annoyed that someone took the time to write about that trade.
ha...i was annoyed at that too...but i was even more annoyed that he called them "serious" trade talks
that power move is official
so the sixers don't even get a pick, they actually gave one up.
Quote from: phattymatty on February 18, 2010, 01:46:19 PM
so the sixers don't even get a pick, they actually gave one up.
the trade is meeks for a second round pick..which is where he went last year...the rest of the names are all irrelevant (not that meeks is very relevant)
im guessing at the presser youll hear stefanski say they really liked him last year but didnt have a second rounder to go after him
Jodie Meeks is the Timmy Chang of the NBA.
this deal doesnt even need nba approval--just show up tomorrow and suit up
wtf is going on with this franchise
The Sixers are like a goddamn d-league team.
what a stupid, pointless farging trade.
one article comment I saw was this trade is like re-arranging the deck chairs as the titantic is sinking
pretty much except that the sixers were never any sort of titanic to begin with so i guess it'd be more like re-arranging the seat cushions on the ss minow.
lol, Stefanki told Missanelli that they really like Meeks in last year's draft and that's why they did this
igydamus strikes again.
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 18, 2010, 01:51:49 PM
im guessing at the presser youll hear stefanski say they really liked him last year but didnt have a second rounder to go after him
lol jodi meeks. there it is.
Im still scratching my head on what meeks has done to make stefanski give up a second rounder for him. where is the negotiating logic there?
Meeks is Rondo with smaller hands [/igs]
Meeks can shoot and Rondo couldn't out-shoot Eric Snow.
cole is on fire this week
Quote from: reese125 on February 18, 2010, 05:01:43 PM
Im still scratching my head on what meeks has done to make stefanski give up a second rounder for him. where is the negotiating logic there?
you cant overstate how worthless second round nba picks are
couldnt agree more, but re-read the second part of my statement. its the principle
its like stefanski was struggling to acquire the guy that he needed to throw that in
the guy was a second round pick a few months ago and he gave a second round pick for him...its not hard to figure out
the rest of the players in the deal will be lucky to be in the nba next year and for purposes of this deal may as well not exist
youre not getting it...I dont care what meeks was picked for, the 2nd rder was unnecessary based on what he was doing and the swap of those kind of players
your boy lou williams was picked in the 2nd rd, so you can find some talent. not to mention with the squad thats currently assembled this team is not in a position to give ANY picks away
Quote from: reese125 on February 18, 2010, 09:58:29 PM
not to mention with the squad thats currently assembled this team is not in a position to give ANY picks away
I tried to form some kind of response that logically killed this point but there were so many ways I could have went, I hope that statement itself is enough.
Quote from: reese125 on February 18, 2010, 09:58:29 PM
youre not getting it...I dont care what meeks was picked for, the 2nd rder was unnecessary based on what he was doing and the swap of those kind of players
your boy lou williams was picked in the 2nd rd, so you can find some talent. not to mention with the squad thats currently assembled this team is not in a position to give ANY picks away
im trying to figure out what youre doing best right now
a. overthinking the trade
b. caring about it to much
c. overvaluing 2nd round nba picks
i think ill go with a...but im open to you changing my mind in future replies
no need. bottom line it was unnecessary to have to throw in a 2nd rd pick. the end.
(http://www.glogster.com/media/1/6/64/43/6644356.jpg)
this is who runs this team.
It also nicely represents the people who post on this board.
very true.
this team draws less than a girls high school game but they are worried about losing attendence if they get rid of two overpaid stiffs. ::)
btw - how laughable is that that stefanski stated they don't run the princeton offense anymore and haven't for a while.
blow this thing up.
:-D
Ed, Edd & Eddy. Still an all time favorite in the Don Ho household. As are old Hawaii 5-0 reruns and Magnum P.I.
Accidental win tonight.
what the farg is wrong with this team
trade winds have stopped a swirlin and this team is ready to go on a huge run
ej came out of his comatose state and actually gave jeru a shteinload of minutes last night and he responded like a veteran...ran the offense almost to perfection
and lou was ridiclous in the 4th quarter
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 20, 2010, 08:22:38 AM
trade winds have stopped a swirlin and this team is ready to go on a huge run
i get the feeling this your attempt at "satire" though im pretty sure you're confusing it with sarcasm.
god imagine how bad we'd be without iggy and dalenbert. :paranoid
fun fact i just learned...Peter Vescey was best man at Dr. J's wedding
(http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/images/02/22/vescey-erving.jpg)
What the farg is wrong with J
Iverson out indefinitely again to go be with his sick daughter
I've heard rumors that is possibly leukemia? Or am I mistaken?
Quote from: PhillyGirl on February 22, 2010, 05:40:40 PM
I've heard rumors that is possibly leukemia? Or am I mistaken?
Last week (http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/homepage/20100216_Ill_daughter_is_Iverson_s_main_concern.html) AI said that the doctors don't even know, and that it was possibly pneumonia. If the doctors now know what it is, no one has said so publicly.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrhWW39P1nQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrhWW39P1nQ)
sixers showing out real well in a tough spot...last game of a west coastal swing in lake town
sammy had 14 pts in the first 14 minutes
had a chance to go to the game tonight but i have a funeral detail tomorrow at 8am. son of a bitch.
game = FAIL
meh, they lost but at least it wasn't a blowout which is really about all you can ask for against the lakers. still wish i would have been able to go since it was still a pretty good game. oh well.
iverson not returning to the team for the rest of the season.
score another one for ed stefanski
game aside, I hope his little girl gets well soon. That's gotta be scary. :(
stefanski coming on with the king shortly
Quote from: PhillyGirl on March 02, 2010, 01:39:40 PM
game aside, I hope his little girl gets well soon. That's gotta be scary. :(
agreed.
did anyone really think the sixers would not be in the position they are considering we got the nets' sloopy seconds in stefanski & jordan ?
Tawanna Divorce (http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/Tawanna_Iverson_files_for_divorce.html)
ailing child.....fantastic time for a divorce
she can always have more.
seriously, send this team back to syarcuse.
go head Rue....popping off for 27/7/6 against Toronto.
ooooooooooo wow how impressive DOES IT GET
Screamin A says AI has an alcohol problem too
Eskin says the organization has already decided Jordan won't be back, and their list of replacements is Jay Wright, Jeff Van Gundy, Doug Collins and Avery Johnson
they wanted wright last year and he said no
van gundy sucked in 2 spots
johnson choked in dallas
doug collins? lol.
i quit this team.
JVG and Avery Johnson wouldn't even accept interviews. I don't see what will change for next season.
Quote from: KDS on March 08, 2010, 12:00:20 AM
they wanted wright last year and he said no
van gundy sucked in 2 spots
johnson choked in dallas
doug collins? lol.
coaches dont win games in the nba you just want one that wont lose games for you...somehow the sixers are very good at finding the latter
Quote from: BigEd76 on March 07, 2010, 11:58:35 PM
Screamin A says AI has an alcohol problem too
Eskin says the organization has already decided Jordan won't be back, and their list of replacements is Jay Wright, Jeff Van Gundy, Doug Collins and Avery Johnson
heres the article by stephen a. about iverson: dude is a puddle right now
http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/86738542.html?cmpid=15585797 (http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/86738542.html?cmpid=15585797)
not going to read anything from screami' a - curiuos though, did he find a way to blame the white devil for all of iverson's issues ?
I cant stand seeing the guy talk, but I still dig his articles
SLA...VA MED...V....DENKO!!
Doug Collins? shtein, I want Steve Mix!
cmon Pacers hold on
classic eddie jordan...stoppage of play with a couple seconds left on the shot clock and he makes a quick change to get jeru in the game...jeru doesnt notice this and boom 24 second violation
Iguodala: 30 minutes, 2/8, 5 points
Brand: 20 minutes, 7 points
Kapono: 15 minutes, 1 shot
good job
jordan DONE as coach
igys boy stefanksi getting "serious evaluation"
and so the inept circus continues.
Quote from: BigEd76 on March 09, 2010, 09:48:32 PM
Iguodala: 30 minutes, 2/8, 5 points
Brand: 20 minutes, 7 points
Kapono: 15 minutes, 1 shot
good job
the amazing thing is that granger didnt even play
tha damaja last two games
42 pts
60% fg
62% 3pt
so it looks like jordan is gone and maybe stefanski too.
what two clowns will fill those spots next ?
Latest rumor is Snider and the head guys wanted to fire Jordan months ago but didn't because they already fired John Stevens this season. Stupid if true....
heard that too and you're right - stupid. what were they affraid of ? losing attendence ?
Which re-tread and or retard will they bring back to coach?
Fix the farging team, Snider.
anything dr. havas? still fun to watch this squad?
you sorry waste of humanity. you deserve this.
i could watch the damaja in his underwear
idiot
this team care less about you than the eagles do, and the eagles see you has nothing but a big pile of neverending money.
but keep watching jrue and the rest of these losers jog around the court and count the seconds until they can go out that night
dont worry i will
im worried about you buddy. youve clearly got some issues and this IS NOT helping things.
and for the record they lost by 30 to the bobcats. cant hark on that enough.
why would you want them to win...and a 30 pt loss possibly gets eddie jordan out this year and the sooner that happens the better as i dont want him fargin around with jeru anymore
hark
i actually like holiday but the giant pile of fecal matter that is the rest of the organization offends me and at this point i'd rather watch the wnba's worst team over the sixers.
Quote from: smeags on March 11, 2010, 03:06:39 PM
at this point i'd rather watch the wnba's worst team over the sixers.
yeah but youd rather sing along to 'love song' than watch the phillies in the world series so thats not saying much
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 11, 2010, 03:09:03 PM
Quote from: smeags on March 11, 2010, 03:06:39 PM
at this point i'd rather watch the wnba's worst team over the sixers.
yeah but youd rather sing along to 'love song' than watch the phillies in the world series so thats not saying much
you really suck at smack talking, do yourself a favor and stick whining about cliff lee.
speaking of, it wasn't a lee game so there was no worry about missing anything.
sometimes the truth hurts.
This conversation has a vagina.
truth hurts ? :-D
i have no issue with it, tinkerbell seems to be clamped to it though.
tanktacular loss tonight vs chicago
really great on all ends to not show up
where my boi at
heres one reason to watch
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/multimedia/photo_gallery/1003/nba.dancers.sixers/content.1.html?xid=polarmobile
that aint j smiths girl
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 21, 2010, 10:54:22 AM
heres one reason to watch
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/multimedia/photo_gallery/1003/nba.dancers.sixers/content.1.html?xid=polarmobile
Yeah, nothing says trailer park trash like fish net stockings with blue jean shorts and knee high's from the 70's.
Come run with us!
easy whats the tiebreaker situation. if they can somehow get with dc for the 3 spot how does it go
They add the combinations together and divide by 2. If there's 1 left over, they have a coin flip to decide who gets it (and gets the earlier spot in the draft)...
what the farg does that mean
There's ping pong balls numbered 1-14, and they draw four of them like the PA lottery or whatever. There's 1,001 possible combos.
The Nets get 250 of them as the worst team.
The Wolves get 199 of them as the 2nd-worst.
The 3rd-worst team gets 156 combos and 4th-worst gets 119. If the Sixers and Wizards are tied for 3rd-worst, they each get 137 combos (275/2), and there's a coin flip to determine who gets the leftover one. So if the Sixers win that coin flip, they get 138 combos (and the 3rd pick in the draft if everything stays the same)....
cant get in top 3
maybe maybe tie dc for top 4. most likely the 5.
thanks igy.
i told you all this a long time ago
you told me this when you were happy with them winning
they needed to go tank mode back in december but it was all sunshine and lollipops for you
they have way to many good players to get a top three pick
thats why you trade glasses mcgoo and the haitain abomination for mcgrady and watch the losing ensue.
but no. they dont. and you justify it.
some scout rips the sixers, igy questions his life, continues to validate it
Quote"They are having dunk contests before games; they are running plays sloppily or not all the way through; and they aren't listening to (coach) Eddie Jordan. They have quit. They know Eddie is gone (after the season) and they think they don't have to listen anymore. The thing is, they are making themselves look like a-------. These guys think that just because Eddie is gone they will be back (next year). But nobody wants guys who give up when things go bad. Eddie's offense was a bad fit for this roster - they have to find a way to play more up-tempo - but these guys are embarrassing themselves. And everyone around the league knows it."
sounds more like a post from a disgruntled fan than a scout, not to mention I doubt anyone around the league cares about what the sixers are doing at this point
yeah everyone around the league knows it and no one cares
ej is gone at the end of the year then we move on hopefully to a coach that can teach something other than a gimmick offense....ummm like how to guard a slide screen or step out on three
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 26, 2010, 03:42:14 PM
yeah everyone around the league knows it and no one cares
ej is gone at the end of the year then we move on hopefully to a coach that can teach something other than a gimmick offense....ummm like how to guard a slide screen or step out on three
lol yea coach needs to show andre iguodala how to do that. hes been playing hoops since he was 4 and if he cant figure it out now then who the farg is gonna make him.
UNBELIVABLE sequence just a second ago...iguodala stops a josh smith alley oop...then has an unreal one handed follow dunk...then jeru picks jamal crawford clean
btw jeru in march is over 50% from the field and from three
haha yea thats unreal
shut up fool
this team is winning too much.
beat a bucks team at their place that was 15-2 since mid-February, then beat the Hawks...yep...sounds like a team that just quit and are embarrassing themselves
need more scout quotes
way to represent, reece
whatever minuscule shot they had at turner or wall is gone. i cannot think of a more inept organization that just doesnt get it oh wait the eagles.
the eagles are just inept at doing what it takes to win a super bowl. they're very good at assembling a team that can consistantly make the playoffs.
the sixers are 1 of about 3 or 4 teams that can't make the playoffs, yet still can't get into position for a top pick in the draft. it's like going 7-9 every year in the nfl.
sixers >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eagles
Quote from: KDS on March 27, 2010, 12:42:48 AM
way to represent, reece
whatever minuscule shot they had at turner or wall is gone. i cannot think of a more inept organization that just doesnt get it oh wait the eagles.
evan turner is not an nba star...and he may be a complete miss
hes the 2nd best player in this draft and in the least would be a good 7th man off the bench. behind him you have guys that are even questionable for that.
i wouldnt take him in the top ten i dont think...off the top of my head i can think of 7-8 guys id rather have
well i wanted john wall but you told me that its more important to win 25 games than tank and get the 2nd most lotto balls (since there was nothing the sixers could do to catch nj).
buyers remorse?
they never had a chance at wall...its non basketball fans that throw out the scenario that they could have....frankly im sad that youre one of them
how did they never had a chance
if they would have called a spade a spade in december and started the tank, traded your boy and the haitian farg, sat brand with a bs acl injury, they could have competed with minny and gs for the 2 spot.
with their current roster as is no they were gonna too many games. but they needed to recognize and start the tank. and they didnt. and now they are going to be even worse next year. and the year after that. cause YOU and the owners dont get it.
you know what they do have a chance at...having the next great nba lead guard
sixers have SEVEN guys in double figures and two of them are not jeru or sweet lou
how about jodie meeks...making a case for a rotation spot next year
SHUT THE HELL UP
what a disastrous win
just showed how dumb you were to dismiss the phillies for a mythical draft spot
i watched the entire game but i would have taken a loss for the 3 spot
you are the fraud getting your undies all wet for a win at this point in the season against a pos team like memphis
if we are the 4th spot(are we?) the chances aren't that much worse to be in the top 3 than the third spot.
Quote from: KDS on April 10, 2010, 11:50:04 PM
i watched the entire game but i would have taken a loss for the 3 spot
you are the fraud getting your undies all wet for a win at this point in the season against a pos team like memphis
lol you didnt see one second of the game...no chance you paid for half a season of the nba package when you moved to texico...
and i didnt say anything about the win...as we sit here now i wish they lost...i just know where they are gonna end up and have no falsehoods about john wall like you...ive been telling you this for weeks
i meant the phillies game dingus
i havent watched a sixers game in god knows how long. what reason is there besides jeru. they need to lose and if they would have traded iguodala or just sent him home or something they could be in the 3 spot. but no. they keep this charade up and we all knew this team was gonna win about 30 games as is. they need to rip it apart and tank.
jodie and jeru backcourt for the 10's
Quote from: KDS on April 11, 2010, 12:07:10 AM
i meant the phillies game dingus
how in the hell would anyone be able to figure that out?
im not sure. one way or another it couldnt have been that hard.
either way this team was one move away from having a halfway decent shot at a john wall/jeru backcourt and they ruined it. how am i the only one who is angry over this.
actually it was basically indecipherable
does it really matter
they are gonna be an unfathomable joke for years to come because of stefanski. between the brand signing, the jordan singing, not tanking and not pulling the trigger on the igy/sammy d trade he is without the doubt the worst gm in the history of philly sports.
and it kills me. i get insanely jealous watching nba games in dallas, portland, cleveland, etc. and seeing this awesome, epic battles with great crowds. we could have that in philly but this team is so unwatchable and pointless. farg stefanski.
legit rumors saying if sixers give larry brown both the coach and gm job hell come back
yay or nay? cant be worse than stefanski.
No.
yay
Name me a better option. He might suck as a GM but he knows more about basketball than both the Ed's.
I'd rather have a strong GM. In a league where bad contracts can cripple a team, you need that strength, IMO.
Get a strong GM and dig some assistant off a bench somewhere. Or get Avery Johnson.
They did pull an assistant of a bench...his name is Eddie Jordan.
Time for a real coach. Sure..Avery Johnson will work, but I highly doubt hes in the mood for this team.
i dont really get the eddie jordan joke but i believe phreak is talking about a up and comer....like a monty williams type
i like the idea of buldenholzer...id glady take anything off the popovich family tree
Yes, an up and comer.
Someone to grow with the team.
Get a savvy GM who can assemble the right pieces, and get a guy who can coach. Let the young bucks do their thing.
sounds like Johnny Davis and Brad Greenberg
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/blog/ball_dont_lie/post/Derrick-Coleman-is-almost-5-million-in-debt?urn=nba,233379 (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/blog/ball_dont_lie/post/Derrick-Coleman-is-almost-5-million-in-debt?urn=nba,233379)
* i snickered
I never minded DC as much as some fans despised him, can't really hate on him for this:
QuoteColeman has filed for bankruptcy and owes creditors $4.7 million, most of which he lost in failed attempts to stimulate Detroit's struggling local economy. His lawyer Mark B. Berke explained the reasons for Coleman's financial struggles.
ha. stimulating the detroit economy is a nice way of saying blowing all his money on useless shtein.
Quote from: SD on April 12, 2010, 08:59:27 AM
I never minded DC as much as some fans despised him, can't really hate on him for this:
QuoteColeman has filed for bankruptcy and owes creditors $4.7 million, most of which he lost in failed attempts to stimulate Detroit's struggling local economy. His lawyer Mark B. Berke explained the reasons for Coleman's financial struggles.
if true thats actually pretty sad
Clutch loss
following the score online, they really had me worried there for a minute. but they came through in crunch time when it really mattered. great loss.
it helps but its too little, too late
they should and could be 5 wins behind where they are now and be primed for the 3 spot, which gives them a hell of a chance at the 1 and cha boi john wall. and even though igy hates reality, a wall/jeru backcourt would be god like.
its amazing to me that you can completely validate to yourself the phillies letting cliff lee go...but cant recognize the fact that the sixers never had a chance at wall
I'm hearing theres a good chance Stefanski gets the boot today..
hopefully hes holding hands with eddie jordan as they exit the building.
and eddies holding brands hand whos holding iggys hand
i'm getting turned on by all of this.
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 13, 2010, 07:19:39 AM
its amazing to me that you can completely validate to yourself the phillies letting cliff lee go...but cant recognize the fact that the sixers never had a chance at wall
ha
how did they not have a chance at him? all stefanski had to do was trade iggy and sammy d. thats it. theyd have 2-3 less wins. then, for good measure, before that, randomly sit your best players with made up injuries. just flat out tank. that gives them the 3, maybe the 2 if they tried real hard. thats a great shot at wall.
Really dude? You don't think they were trying to trade them both all season long? Find me one team who would take those contracts and I'll find you a GM who will lose his job for it. Iggy has 60MM+ remaining and calling Sammy dead weight is being nice. Neither guy is a put you over the top to win a championship guy.
anything after 1 is not a great shot at wall anyway.
really they dont even need wall if you believe in jeru
and when did wall become the next jordan?...dont get me wrong i think hes going to be really good to great...but hes not like allen iverson coming out...hes somewhere btwn derrick rose and stephon marbury
just please get rid of the wonder twins ed & eddie first.
Quote from: Die-Hard on April 13, 2010, 12:02:57 PM
Really dude? You don't think they were trying to trade them both all season long? Find me one team who would take those contracts and I'll find you a GM who will lose his job for it. Iggy has 60MM+ remaining and calling Sammy dead weight is being nice. Neither guy is a put you over the top to win a championship guy.
im pretty sure iggy and sammy d for mcgrady's expiring contract was on the table and stefanski rejected it. thats whats been reported. thats a beyond fireable offense.
Quote from: phattymatty on April 13, 2010, 12:08:47 PM
anything after 1 is not a great shot at wall anyway.
kind of. but really tell me what the difference would be between what they did this year and making a few trades/tanking a bit to get the 3 spot? did they really need to win those extra 5 games? it served no purpose. either youre a good team thats in the playoffs and has a chance to win a few rounds or youre gunning for the top 5 of the lotto. anything in between in pointless. and this mess of a franchise has been in between since 2001.
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 13, 2010, 12:20:11 PM
really they dont even need wall if you believe in jeru
and when did wall become the next jordan?...dont get me wrong i think hes going to be really good to great...but hes not like allen iverson coming out...hes somewhere btwn derrick rose and stephon marbury
the crippling contracts to old man elton and glasses mcgee prevent them from signing anybody. they arent bad enough to get into the top of the lotto. so what? what can they do? heres a thought: theres a really good player sitting there at 1. you have a 0% shot of signing an elite free agent. but you can at least try and get this guy. lose games. tank. maybe you win the lotto, maybe you dont. but its worth a shot. its the only way they could win down the road. how are you not seeing this? wtf is jeru and a bunch of trash gonna do? the 7 seed? you want that?
again it was never going to happen youre just throwing random hypothetical shtein out there that none of us even know was true or possible and even if it all was it still didnt guarantee getting the number one pick...furthermore youre making the number one pick a franchise saving player which is a long shot at best
again i just dont understand clinging to all that while reasoning/defending/promoting the philies having a dominant guy actually signed up on the cheap and letting him go
im not defending the phillies. it was a terrible move. but amaros reasoning wasnt 100% $ related. there was a lot more to it. how did i not make that clear?
and saying they were never gonna get wall is insane. we dont know what the lotto balls hold, all we can do is get as many as we can and hope for the best. whats wrong with that plan? what other choice is there in hoops? try real hard and win 27 games and get the 7 spot, or take a little off and get the 2 or the 3? which one would you rather have?
if they made a hypothetical trade that no one really believes was realistic and lost a hypothetical number of games after that trade and won the lottery
all for a player who isnt a franchise saver
be mad
will do
because the end result this year, and every year since 2001, has been well worth it.
Quote from: KDS on April 13, 2010, 01:40:46 PM
Quote from: Die-Hard on April 13, 2010, 12:02:57 PM
Really dude? You don't think they were trying to trade them both all season long? Find me one team who would take those contracts and I'll find you a GM who will lose his job for it. Iggy has 60MM+ remaining and calling Sammy dead weight is being nice. Neither guy is a put you over the top to win a championship guy.
im pretty sure iggy and sammy d for mcgrady's expiring contract was on the table and stefanski rejected it. thats whats been reported. thats a beyond fireable offense.
I was for that deal, because as we all know I can't stand either player. Ed turned it down because it only would have cleared $7 million in cap space when all was said and done. That's not much more than the MLE. They wanted a young player in return which was the sticking point.
1. clears cap space, even the 7 mil
2. takes away 2 good players so now you lose more
3. iguodala is a terrible human being and should burn in hell with phreak in houston
FIRE STEFANSKI
This 30 for 30 about AI is great
shtein...I forgot that was on. I'll have to record it later
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 13, 2010, 09:35:37 PM
shtein...I forgot that was on. I'll have to record it later
dont bother...ill sum it all up for you in a jiffy.....
(http://johnlarroquetteproject.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/simpson_verdict_reaction.jpg)
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 13, 2010, 09:40:36 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 13, 2010, 09:35:37 PM
shtein...I forgot that was on. I'll have to record it later
dont bother...ill sum it all up for you in a jiffy.....
(http://johnlarroquetteproject.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/simpson_verdict_reaction.jpg)
No shtein? A black vs white thing?
im just playing
actually i think the iverson one is on next week
tonight was "everything you ever wanted to know about steve james' family"
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 13, 2010, 09:45:23 PM
im just playing
actually i think the iverson one is on next week
tonight was "everything you ever wanted to know about steve james' family"
LMAO
His parents were pretty cool though, mom was really good at painting the picture. Now i want Hampton Dreams
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 13, 2010, 09:40:36 PM
(http://johnlarroquetteproject.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/simpson_verdict_reaction.jpg)
This photo is racist propaganda bullshtein.
I was happy when the McRib came out too.
bastiches.
igy's movie reviews + race relations + general washington dc area = pain
Hahah, IGY definitely googled "OJ verdict"
i never realized how bad AI had it all through life including while he made millions.
elton brand is going to make $18.1 million in the 12-13 season.
and worth every penny
ed stefanski, ladies and gentleman.
he calls wip unprompted.
i give him a pass.
-m. havas
sixers finished in a tie for 6th with detroit......a tie breaker will determine whether they have a 7.5% or 4.3% chance to win the lottery
Quote
No vacation, but an education for rookie Holiday
By BOB COONEY
Philadelphia Daily News
cooneyb@phillynews.com
ORLANDO – It was 169 days ago from yesterday that Jrue Holiday's NBA career began, or was supposed to begin.
On Oct. 28, Holiday was on the Amway Arena court before the season opener with the Orlando Magic, practicing his jump shot with assistant coach Aaron McKie and looking about as nervous as you'd imagine a 19-year-old to be before his first game as a professional.
Then, about an hour before the game, coach Eddie Jordan gave Holiday the news that he was going to be deactivated for the game. The look on Holiday's face was like that of a child discovering there is no Santa Claus.
"Yeah, I remember I had to use my man Jason Kapono's blazer," Holiday laughed. "It was nice, too. Corduroy, I think."
Holiday can joke about it now, as last night he started his 41st straight game. He has quickly become a veteran of the league and all it entails.
"I didn't really get into it until about Game 50," he said. "I think I'm still ready to go. I could go for a while longer. It's just completely different, though, like going through your whole high school career in one year. But it was fun.
"It's definitely my lifestyle now, but I had to get used to it. I remember my first road trip coming to Orlando, but now flying so many times, the back-to-back game here and there, it's crazy."
His play has gone a long way in showing the Sixers made a good decision in taking him with the 17th pick in last June's draft. He posted a season-high 13 assists in Monday's loss to Miami, has shot 50 percent from the floor over his past 33 games and over the past 15 games - before last night's contest - had posted 12.3 points, 6.9 assists, 4.2 rebounds and 2.0 steals.
The grueling schedule, though, wasn't the toughest part of his rookie season. That would be all the rookie treatment he had to endure.
"I got the hardest year over with, and I'm done with all the rookie stuff they got me doing," he said. "The worst was them [teammates] kicking balls into the stands [during shootarounds] and me having to run up and get them."
Eddie Jordan gone, 11am press conference. Stefanski survives.
Golf clap.
How'd Stefanski survive?
Is Snider asleep at the wheel or what?
leave stefan alone creep
stefanski is worse than greenberg
its insulting hes still there
stefan gave us jeru and for that he gets a lifetime pass
Snider firing Jordan is like Enron firing a frigging security guard.
Steven A and Legler takes on Sixers roster and future with Missanelli--interesting take on Jrue not being a true point
http://www.975thefanatic.com/teams/sixers/blogentry.aspx?BlogEntryID=10108050 (http://www.975thefanatic.com/teams/sixers/blogentry.aspx?BlogEntryID=10108050)
http://www.975thefanatic.com/teams/sixers/blogentry.aspx?BlogEntryID=10108062 (http://www.975thefanatic.com/teams/sixers/blogentry.aspx?BlogEntryID=10108062)
Fagan with some Dalembert bashing (http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/sixers/20100418_Inside_the_Sixers___76ers__next_coach_must_exert_discipline.html)
Screamin A with more Sixer bashing (http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/homepage/20100418_Stephen_A__Smith__Jordan_happy_to_be_gone_from_76ers.html)
Yes, I'm sure Eddie Jordan is happy to have lost his job just like the race baiter was happy to lose his at ESPN.
Quote from: phattymatty on December 08, 2009, 10:02:36 AM
Quote from: King Cole on December 08, 2009, 01:14:08 AM
I'm convinced the Sixers will win the lottery, because John Wall will be the worst top pick in recent memory. Not saying he is bad, but he isn't on the level of the majority of the top picks of recent memory.
ha thats one of the more retarded things i've read on here. not saying that he's going to be an all-star or not but to say that after only 3 weeks of him basically playing as good or better than expected is confusing.
ha.
I cant believe you actually remembered that to pull it back up--especially coming from Cole who is the corniest dude on this board with his predictions and being always wrong on so many levels
i normally don't pay attention but that one stuck out for me big time.
I heard that tomorrow, you can pay $25 and go into the Spectrum and take pretty much anything that isn't bolted down. I wish I was there so I could get me a 30 year old tv monitor from one of the concourses.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on November 05, 2010, 03:16:41 PM
I heard that tomorrow, you can pay $25 and go into the Spectrum and take pretty much anything that isn't bolted down. I wish I was there so I could get me a 30 year old tv monitor from one of the concourses.
i was thinking of going down to grab a chair. are they charging for parking ?
Quote from: Sgt PSN on November 05, 2010, 03:16:41 PM
I heard that tomorrow, you can pay $25 and go into the Spectrum and take pretty much anything that isn't bolted down. I wish I was there so I could get me a 30 year old tv monitor from one of the concourses.
where did you hear this fella?
Quote from: smeags on November 05, 2010, 03:23:28 PM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on November 05, 2010, 03:16:41 PM
I heard that tomorrow, you can pay $25 and go into the Spectrum and take pretty much anything that isn't bolted down. I wish I was there so I could get me a 30 year old tv monitor from one of the concourses.
i was thinking of going down to grab a chair. are they charging for parking ?
No idea. I doubt it though since there isn't an actual event taking place in the arena.
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 05, 2010, 03:24:10 PM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on November 05, 2010, 03:16:41 PM
I heard that tomorrow, you can pay $25 and go into the Spectrum and take pretty much anything that isn't bolted down. I wish I was there so I could get me a 30 year old tv monitor from one of the concourses.
where did you hear this fella?
Via and Gonzo. Keep listening to WIP though.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on November 05, 2010, 03:29:59 PM
Quote from: smeags on November 05, 2010, 03:23:28 PM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on November 05, 2010, 03:16:41 PM
I heard that tomorrow, you can pay $25 and go into the Spectrum and take pretty much anything that isn't bolted down. I wish I was there so I could get me a 30 year old tv monitor from one of the concourses.
i was thinking of going down to grab a chair. are they charging for parking ?
No idea. I doubt it though since there isn't an actual event taking place in the arena.
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 05, 2010, 03:24:10 PM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on November 05, 2010, 03:16:41 PM
I heard that tomorrow, you can pay $25 and go into the Spectrum and take pretty much anything that isn't bolted down. I wish I was there so I could get me a 30 year old tv monitor from one of the concourses.
where did you hear this fella?
Via and Gonzo. Keep listening to WIP though.
im not a fan but i gotta give them this one....they broke that story wide farging open
Is it a story? I'd figure this is something that's been made widely public. The more crap that people haul out of the Spectrum, the less they gotta pay some removal service to come in there and clean it out.
Great start,
one of e snows three keys to the game was to come out strong and carry over the momentum from their first win...then i blinked...then it was 14-2 cleveland
one of my keys to happiness (or at least to preclude committing suicide) is to avoid watching the sixers whenever possible.
stop posting in this thread
ok
Quote from: SunMo on November 05, 2010, 07:56:37 PM
stop posting in this thread
stop being so goddamn sexy.
stop breathing
i think sunmos a pretty good guy
what about you?
nm