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Title: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: Rome on October 05, 2015, 11:41:23 AM
Ready...  Go!
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: smeags on October 05, 2015, 11:49:08 AM
wake me for the winter meetings
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on October 05, 2015, 11:51:42 AM
grooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooome
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: Rome on October 05, 2015, 12:22:37 PM
Really looking forward to pitchers and catchers reporting after yesterday's catastrophe.
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on October 05, 2015, 01:30:58 PM
Is Choke coming back?

Ruiz?

Who gets hired as the GM?

Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: MDS on October 05, 2015, 02:17:59 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 05, 2015, 01:30:58 PM
Is Choke coming back?

who cares

Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 05, 2015, 01:30:58 PM
Ruiz?

who cares

Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 05, 2015, 01:30:58 PM
Who gets hired as the GM?

somebody nobody knows anything about that you will slurp even though he (or SHE!) wont care about the 1970s baseball mindset you possess
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on October 05, 2015, 02:21:20 PM
lol jesus
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: Rome on October 05, 2015, 02:38:00 PM
On a scale of Richard Simmons to Ray Rice, how hard would Phreak punch the lil guy in the face?
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: MDS on October 05, 2015, 02:41:48 PM
it depends whether or not they bring back howard and ruiz
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on October 05, 2015, 02:44:53 PM
Quote from: Rome on October 05, 2015, 02:38:00 PM
On a scale of Richard Simmons to Ray Rice, how hard would Phreak punch the lil guy in the face?

where does kiss him on the mouth rate?
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: Rome on October 05, 2015, 02:45:34 PM
Hmmm... Quite the conundrum. 
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on October 05, 2015, 05:00:39 PM
lolol

lil guy is clinically insane
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: Don Ho on October 05, 2015, 05:57:07 PM
OMG I love you guys!  LMFAO.  Thanks, I needed this after yesterday's train wreck.
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: BigEd76 on October 07, 2015, 04:33:29 PM
DeFratus and Pettibone got dropped from the 40-man roster along with other AAAA junk (Kratz, Loewen, Roberts, d'Arnaud, Danks)
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: MDS on October 07, 2015, 04:35:18 PM
the pettibone thing im surprised about....guess his arm is light years away

remember when they tried to sell de fratus, diekman and giles as the future of the bullpen? poor roob.
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on October 07, 2015, 08:07:29 PM
Yeah DeFratus went from promising to junk real quick

Usual trend of inconsistency for MLB relievers...good one year and then zesty thereafter
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on October 19, 2015, 02:48:19 PM
HOF outrighted off the 40 man
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: MDS on October 19, 2015, 03:02:53 PM
roob's trifecta all gone

brown, joseph and kelly dugan

the end of an era
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on October 19, 2015, 05:09:27 PM
Kinda surprised about Dugan
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: MDS on October 20, 2015, 01:26:03 AM
hes 24 and he OPSed 592 at AAA this year
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: Geowhizzer on October 20, 2015, 06:34:17 AM
So I should stop working on his HOF plaque?
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: Don Ho on October 20, 2015, 07:08:58 PM
There was just to many HOF's in the bums system to keep track of.
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: MDS on October 23, 2015, 11:54:17 AM
gm finalists

matt klentak (angels)
jj piccollo (royals)
chaim bloom (rays)

the last one is the most jewish name in the history of the world. its got that cha sound many goyim cant even say.
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on October 23, 2015, 12:03:00 PM
i wanted ang bad but i dont think anyone expected a backwards ass organization like the phillies who didnt even want black players for a long time was going in that direction
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: MDS on October 23, 2015, 12:09:40 PM
who is ang
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on October 23, 2015, 12:16:31 PM
phonetic ng
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: MDS on October 23, 2015, 12:17:32 PM
oh the asian lady? shes ok.

did you want her because you think shes some kind of brilliant mind or because of you being a liberal basket case progressive
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on October 23, 2015, 12:21:52 PM
because shes a women of course....i have no idea who has the best baseball mind left but no one on paper is better than her....so in that case make some history
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on October 23, 2015, 12:37:56 PM
Yeah that is a hardcore Jewish name for sure lol


Of the three listed who is the best option?

Which one relies on xfip and hggdfuabdg the least?
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: QB Eagles on October 23, 2015, 12:40:02 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 23, 2015, 12:37:56 PM
Which one relies on xfip and hggdfuabdg the least?

Ruben Amaro Jr.
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on October 23, 2015, 12:40:29 PM
I don't know who that is. Name doesn't compute.
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: MDS on October 23, 2015, 02:22:49 PM
karntrovitz is a finalist, not picolo

the jew, the other jew and the angels dude are all ivy leaguers in their 30s who worship vorp. here is a live feed straight down the traffic jam on I10 into j's gas guzzling earth destroying truck

(http://www.bolgernow.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/Statler-Muppet.jpg)
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on October 23, 2015, 03:02:14 PM
Amen! Just put gas in too....33 gallons baby!
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: smeags on October 23, 2015, 03:05:28 PM
Quote from: MDS on October 23, 2015, 02:22:49 PM


(http://www.bolgernow.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/Statler-Muppet.jpg)

wait, isn't that hunt ?
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on October 23, 2015, 03:24:33 PM
bloom is from philly....go get
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on October 24, 2015, 12:26:45 PM
Reports coming out that it's Klentak
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: QB Eagles on October 24, 2015, 12:38:05 PM
MacPhail's boy
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: SD on October 24, 2015, 01:14:42 PM
Damn was really hoping Luries wife would get it
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on October 24, 2015, 04:01:24 PM
Amaro reportedly going to be the Red Sox 1b coach
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: MDS on October 24, 2015, 04:36:47 PM
it was klentak from the second it was macphail
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on October 24, 2015, 06:22:23 PM
Quote from: MDS on October 24, 2015, 04:36:47 PM
it was klentak from the second it was macphail

yup....pathetic

go make history or encourage hundreds of years of nepotism
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: QB Eagles on October 24, 2015, 08:45:24 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 24, 2015, 04:01:24 PM
Amaro reportedly going to be the Red Sox 1b coach

Nice of them not to bump him all the way down to batboy.
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on October 24, 2015, 08:46:31 PM
MOCK?
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on October 24, 2015, 08:54:06 PM
Mock out with your cock out!
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on October 24, 2015, 08:58:18 PM
always
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: MDS on October 24, 2015, 10:44:04 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 24, 2015, 06:22:23 PM
Quote from: MDS on October 24, 2015, 04:36:47 PM
it was klentak from the second it was macphail

yup....pathetic

go make history or encourage hundreds of years of nepotism

i dont get this

they hired, by all regards, a very qualified candidate. and of course he'll have the cuffs on to an extent because macphail is really running the team. and macphail is basically a decade younger clone of gillick.
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on October 24, 2015, 10:45:57 PM
they all were qualified and were on equal ground....a progressive organization hires the young lady....the Phillies hire the best friend of the guy doing the hiring....
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: MDS on October 24, 2015, 10:49:09 PM
yea, youre on your own with this

if they were really progressive they wouldve hired the dude with the name of a holocaust survivor
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on October 24, 2015, 10:51:00 PM
of course im on my own that's a given....

because america sucks...especially sports america
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on October 24, 2015, 10:55:11 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 24, 2015, 10:51:00 PM
of course im on my own that's a given....

because america sucks...especially sports america

So Trump can count on your vote to Make America Great Again?
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on October 24, 2015, 10:59:22 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 24, 2015, 10:55:11 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 24, 2015, 10:51:00 PM
of course im on my own that's a given....

because america sucks...especially sports america

So Trump can count on your vote to Make America Great Again?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTH0V6jtxM4
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on October 24, 2015, 11:05:04 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 24, 2015, 10:59:22 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 24, 2015, 10:55:11 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 24, 2015, 10:51:00 PM
of course im on my own that's a given....

because america sucks...especially sports america

So Trump can count on your vote to Make America Great Again?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTH0V6jtxM4

Holy shtein that's great

They're like grumpy cat lololol
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on October 24, 2015, 11:08:22 PM
lil guy is grumpy cat who thinks white men are discriminated against
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: MDS on October 24, 2015, 11:32:21 PM
im actually voting for santorum
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: Don Ho on October 25, 2015, 06:14:08 AM
Quote from: SD on October 24, 2015, 01:14:42 PM
Damn was really hoping Luries wife would get it

Still LMFAO!
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: SD on October 26, 2015, 11:14:56 AM
I'm work at home today so I'm watching the Klentak PC. He spent 15 minutes thanking everyone who got him to where he is and his voice is cracking like he's going to cry. He also thanked Ruben. Personality wise he's as opposite as Rube as you can get.

Now he's talking about culture and environment
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: SD on October 26, 2015, 11:19:42 AM
This might be the worst baseball PC I've ever seen. All the back patting reminds me of the Flyers introducing one of their retreads as a GM or coach.
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: smeags on October 26, 2015, 12:22:55 PM
so whats on this guy's resume ?
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: SD on October 26, 2015, 12:24:49 PM
whiney 35 year old analytics nerd
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: smeags on October 26, 2015, 12:33:49 PM
so basically, a slightly older clone of lil guy got the job.
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: MDS on October 26, 2015, 01:44:41 PM
i didnt see the presser but i cant imagine this is anything other than sd pulling a global warming/woomin troll job
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: SD on October 26, 2015, 02:06:51 PM
Not trolling, watch it for yourself and form your own opinion.
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on October 26, 2015, 03:29:38 PM
Oh lil guy will watch it alright...a Billy Beane type GM? He's watching that PC without pants
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: QB Eagles on October 26, 2015, 03:54:06 PM
I mean what the farg do you expect... it's an Ivy League businessman running a department in a multibillion dollar organization. He's not gonna be Tommy Lasorda. All sports are going that way but baseball is already there.
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: SunMo on October 26, 2015, 03:55:30 PM
is "billy beane" type an insult now?
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on October 26, 2015, 03:57:39 PM
nope...not at all

It is what it is. I just know how badly Mr mds wanted one in the GM seat
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: SD on October 26, 2015, 03:57:59 PM
Quote from: QB Eagles on October 26, 2015, 03:54:06 PM
I mean what the farg do you expect

Ozzie Newsome
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: smeags on October 26, 2015, 04:24:28 PM
Quote from: SD on October 26, 2015, 03:57:59 PM
Quote from: QB Eagles on October 26, 2015, 03:54:06 PM
I mean what the farg do you expect

Ozzie Newsome

is he branching out to baseball now ?
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on October 26, 2015, 06:32:43 PM
hes not a billy beane straight numbers nerd.....seems like it will be a good mix..


Quote"It's a critical piece of the puzzle," Klentak said about analytics. "I try to create and strike balance in everything that I do and accordingly we'll try to strike balance in everything that we do. The Phillies have a long and proud history, particularly recent history, that was the result of some excellent evaluations and scouting. I don't want to lose that. That is something we're going to continue to reinforce and utilize at every turn. But we also need to make sure we are gathering and utilizing all of the information at our disposal. The real challenge is taking all of that information -- and it is a ton -- and combining it and synthesizing it and figuring out how that works into our process and making decisions accordingly. But let there be no doubt, we will be at the forefront of every single one of those areas, and we will strive to be the best in every one of those areas and have the best information."
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: MDS on October 26, 2015, 08:18:44 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 26, 2015, 03:57:39 PM
nope...not at all

It is what it is. I just know how badly Mr mds wanted one in the GM seat

sorry for no more delmon youngs and juan pierres
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on October 26, 2015, 08:55:33 PM
I am heartbroken.
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: SD on October 29, 2015, 09:06:56 PM
I miss hating Chris Wheeler.

7 years ago today
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4IHefE3xgY
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: Don Ho on October 30, 2015, 04:41:16 AM
Now I'm going to cry.  That was the best Halloween of my life.  I was still on a high, watched the parade, World F'ing Champions, crazy neighborhood Halloween party.  Let's do it again in 20 years!
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on November 02, 2015, 10:11:22 AM
phillies BA list is out

http://www.baseballamerica.com/minors/philadelphia-phillies-top-10-prospects/
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: SD on November 02, 2015, 10:14:40 AM
3 of the top 5 are thanks to the Hamels trade. Phillies.
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on November 02, 2015, 10:26:10 AM
whats great about the list is who isn't on it....like eflin didn't even make it....that's how far their system has come
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: BigEd76 on November 02, 2015, 10:34:54 AM
Morandini is the new 1B coach
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on November 02, 2015, 11:17:38 AM
So Samuel goes back to 3B?

Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: Geowhizzer on November 02, 2015, 11:41:33 AM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on November 02, 2015, 11:17:38 AM
So Samuel goes back to 3B?

I thought he had done that already when Mackanin took over as manager.
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on November 02, 2015, 12:10:36 PM
I recall Mizerock being there
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: MDS on November 02, 2015, 12:11:06 PM
john mizzerock was doing it after ryno quit...they announced a few weeks ago that sammy was going be the 3b coach

they love the mick, but then again they loved ryno. seems like this is old school phillies heaping love on phillies alumni
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on November 02, 2015, 02:54:33 PM
three worst odds to win the world series next year.....no one is close to the phils

braves: 100/1
rockies: 100/1
phillies: 200/1
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: MDS on November 02, 2015, 04:19:22 PM
kinda surprising they are that far below colorado and cinci

very good chance phils are better than them, which sucks because i want the 1 again
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: Geowhizzer on November 02, 2015, 09:39:51 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on November 02, 2015, 12:10:36 PM
I recall Mizerock being there

Yeah, that's right.  Shows how much attention I was paying by that point.  I'm too old for this shtein.
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on November 02, 2015, 09:56:40 PM
I'm surprised Samuel came back - must've not had any better offer me because he said he wanted to manage. He said he wanted to do more than just coach bases. Wonder if he eventually takes over for Mackanin or as bench coach when Bowa retires
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: MDS on November 02, 2015, 10:07:47 PM
yea im really surprised the phillies 1b coach didnt get a manager job
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on November 02, 2015, 10:08:39 PM
Your snark was funny once upon a time.
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: Rome on November 03, 2015, 12:13:20 AM
None of these guys will be around when the Phillies are competitive again.

So really who farging cares?
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: MDS on November 03, 2015, 12:34:56 AM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on November 02, 2015, 10:08:39 PM
Your snark was funny once upon a time.

pretty sure it still is, you just become bum phillips
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on November 03, 2015, 12:39:19 AM
Bum Phillips had better one liners than you
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: smeags on November 03, 2015, 12:44:34 PM
bye bye Clifford lee
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on November 04, 2015, 10:27:26 AM
real good piece on arbuckle

http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/phillies/20151104_Another_ringing_endorsement_for_Mike_Arbuckle.html
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: MDS on November 04, 2015, 12:11:04 PM
solid waiver claim on dan otero...had a real good 13 and a real bad 14. relief pitchers make no sense, he could easily bounce back. or hes cooked. no downside at all to this.

having 1st priority on waiver claims, the 1st pick in the rule 5 draft and the most international $ to spend all come with having the worst record. its not just about the 1.
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on November 04, 2015, 03:22:46 PM
With free agency right around the corner and plenty of trades and signings to follow, it's time for a snapshot of each franchise. As in past renditions of the MLB Future Power Rankings, we've asked three of our top baseball analysts -- Jim Bowden, Keith Law and Buster Olney -- to rank all 30 teams across five categories (see corresponding table) in an attempt to measure how well each team is set up for sustained success over the next five years.

#16 Philadelphia Phillies

CATEGORIES

MAJORS (full weight): Quality of current big league roster - 3
MINORS (full weight): Quality and quantity of prospects in their farm system - 23
FINANCE (2/3 weight): How much money do they have to spend? - 21
MANAGEMENT (2/3 weight): Value and stability of ownership, front office and coaching staff - 7
MOBILITY (1/3 weight): Do they have a lot of young, cheap players or old, immovable guys? - 16


The overview

The Phillies are not expected to make a splash this offseason. Rather, the new leadership team of Andy MacPhail and Matt Klentak will rebuild the Phillies through scouting and player development. They are mapping out a long-term plan and have no interest in deviating from it until they start winning again. This means they'll listen to trade offers on every veteran player if they can get solid prospects in return, and the only way they get involved in free agency is if the player is young enough to still contribute when the team is ready to win. The Phillies made some great strides over the past couple of drafts and at the trade deadline and could get back to contender status more quickly than most people think -- but it won't be next year. -- Jim Bowden

Impact prospect

Franklyn Kilome was already hitting 94-96 mph last year, and in 2015 he showed gradual improvements in other areas of his game, from his off-speed stuff to his command to his feel for pitching, while earning praise from Phillies' staffers for his aptitude and willingness to learn. -- Keith Law

March rank: 30 (overall score: 22.7)
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on November 04, 2015, 03:32:00 PM
Franklyn with y eh? Awful

His last name will be changed to Killinme after he serves up enough bombs
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: MDS on November 04, 2015, 05:55:24 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on November 04, 2015, 03:32:00 PM
Franklyn with y eh? Awful

His last name will be changed to Killinme after he serves up enough bombs

(http://cdn.ebaumsworld.com/2011/05/81526098/react.jpg)
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on November 04, 2015, 08:17:38 PM
Thanks for your contributions.
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: MDS on November 04, 2015, 08:23:03 PM
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/2b/69/7d/2b697df80f3f661fd86613b2d7eafa4b.gif)
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on November 10, 2015, 12:21:05 PM
SMASH

http://www.milb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20151110&content_id=156936892&fext=.jsp&vkey=news_t1410&sid=t1410
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: MDS on November 12, 2015, 10:39:21 AM
who would be ok with a giles trade?

Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: Geowhizzer on November 12, 2015, 11:32:50 AM
If they could get anything of substance, I'd be fine with it.  Relievers, especially closers, are notoriously inconsistent from season to season, and it will be several seasons before a closer is necessary.
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: Rome on November 12, 2015, 12:21:01 PM
 Let's keep young talent unless they're blown away by corner outfield star type prospects.
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on November 12, 2015, 12:23:21 PM
other than maybe crawford theres not a single player at any level of the phillies organization i would care about trading
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on November 12, 2015, 07:34:10 PM
phillies are trying to get marcell ozuna again this offseason
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: Geowhizzer on November 12, 2015, 07:54:58 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 12, 2015, 07:34:10 PM
phillies are trying to get marcell ozuna again this offseason

Sounds like he's available for the right price.  Don't know if the Phils can/will pay what the Marlins want.
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on November 12, 2015, 09:43:10 PM
What are they asking?
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: MDS on November 13, 2015, 12:50:57 AM
stark says a young arm

i doubt you could build a package around efflin, so theyd probably start at nola or thompson
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on November 14, 2015, 03:02:31 PM
Salisbury says they're about to trade for Hellickson from Arizona
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: QB Eagles on November 14, 2015, 04:33:19 PM
They traded RHP Sam McWilliams from last year's draft. Guess the idea is for Hellickson to eat starts.
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: MDS on November 14, 2015, 05:26:17 PM
how will hellickson be bumped from the rotation

a. because he sucks
b. for thompson
c. for efflin
d. he'll make 30+ starts
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: MDS on November 21, 2015, 10:21:47 AM
astros are IN on giles (and other closers)

correa?
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on November 21, 2015, 10:26:02 AM
would correa be enough tho?
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: BigEd76 on December 03, 2015, 05:13:41 PM
Apparently nobody was excited about that hott Peter Bourjos pickup off waivers
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on December 03, 2015, 05:29:17 PM
i want the 2017 number one overall
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: MDS on December 03, 2015, 07:40:36 PM
id like it too but im thinking theyre going to be at the bottom of the top 10
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on December 05, 2015, 03:15:02 PM
http://www.foxsports.com/mlb/story/los-angeles-dodgers-zack-greinke-cole-hamels-hot-stove-clayton-kershaw-ken-rosenthal-120515
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: SunMo on December 07, 2015, 05:03:47 PM
Maikel Franco has filed a grievance alleging service time manipulation.  Kris Bryant has also done it.
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: smeags on December 09, 2015, 08:39:27 AM
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/sources--kris-bryant--maikel-franco-filed-grievances-over-manipulation-of-service-time-213422124-mlb.html (http://sports.yahoo.com/news/sources--kris-bryant--maikel-franco-filed-grievances-over-manipulation-of-service-time-213422124-mlb.html)
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on December 09, 2015, 08:45:07 AM
looks as tho maikel franco is going to file a service time grievance
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on December 09, 2015, 09:19:05 AM
Looks like they have signed ex-DBack RP David Hernandez
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: phattymatty on December 09, 2015, 09:40:48 AM
franco filing a grievance for something also.
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on December 09, 2015, 09:49:22 AM
heyman says they are also looking at one of the great sports names of all time dougie fister
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: smeags on December 09, 2015, 09:59:44 AM
Quote from: phattymatty on December 09, 2015, 09:40:48 AM
franco filing a grievance for something also.
Wait, really ?
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: QB Eagles on December 09, 2015, 10:50:18 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 09, 2015, 09:49:22 AM
heyman says they are also looking at one of the great sports names of all time dougie fister


Dog Fister (http://deadspin.com/5947034/this-might-be-our-favorite-headline-typo-of-all-time)
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: MDS on December 09, 2015, 11:23:35 AM
they mentioned fister as a possibility even before the season was over

its pretty smart deal for both sides. fister gets a rotation spot and ton of leash to get his shtein back...phils get a solid, affordable starter on a 1 year deal that will likely not suck.
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on December 09, 2015, 04:02:54 PM
I figured the Hernandez move was foreshadowing a Giles deal...

Stark says talks between Phils and Astros are "heating up" for Giles but that the Astros won't deal McCullers
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on December 09, 2015, 04:42:11 PM
real ground breaking stuff from stark
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on December 09, 2015, 07:18:58 PM
Not sure I like dealing Giles but I get it

Closer on a rebuilding team is a luxury. If there's a good return to be had you have to explore it
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on December 09, 2015, 07:36:01 PM
Rosenthal says the deal will bring the Phils three pitchers in return highlighted by Vince Velazquez
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: MDS on December 09, 2015, 08:02:14 PM
of course youre not sure about....this is next level thinking and the game has past you by

velasquez is a ML ready arm. he averaged 12.3 k's per 9 at AA last year with a 1.00 whip. BA said he has the highest ceiling of any arm in the astros system. and the astros system is insane. its worth it for him alone...who farging cares about a closer on a team thats 5 years away.

by late summer: velasquez-nola-thompson-eickhoff. that aint not bad. the #1 pick in june will also be spent on an arm, possibly one that could be up by 2017/18. this is good.

the other name mentioned is brett oberholtzer...who is from new castle and likely white trash on a munson level. hes bottom of the rotation dude, but a strike thrower. not sure who the other guy is.
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on December 09, 2015, 08:40:05 PM
Velasquez
Oberholtzer
Minor leaguer

That's the deal.
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on December 09, 2015, 08:49:34 PM
The minor leaguer is OF Derek Fisher

We now give the floor to baseball expert, lil guy, to give us a scouting report
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: Munson on December 09, 2015, 08:52:00 PM
hah, Todd is dead on about New Castle being super white trash area.

Though it's gotten a lot more Hispanic over teh last decade+
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on December 09, 2015, 08:57:10 PM
Zolecki says another player is coming back too

Correa?!?
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: Munson on December 09, 2015, 08:59:05 PM
Correa+ Springer, Phils send back Freddy Galvis.
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: Dillen on December 09, 2015, 09:08:44 PM
Velasquez is going to be really good. I thought he was more likely to become a good starter than McCullers. Really good fastball/change combo. Always manages to get hurt doing nothing.

Fisher is a great athlete. Really fast. Unsure if he will be a CF or corner OF but he will be a major leaguer. Swing and miss is his main issue but he has some pop and plenty of time to figure it out, not really an enormous hole.

Oberholtzer is a good #4. Had no place on Astros but he's more valuable than the usual throw-in. Kinda bummed he never got a fair shot in Houston.

As an Astros fan my reaction is that it's a fair deal. Velasquez has the potential to be a dominant #2 if he stays healthy. Obie is already a good backend guy. Fisher is likely to be an everyday OF but who knows how good.


Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on December 09, 2015, 09:25:47 PM
Wonder who the fourth prospect is?

The point I made earlier - that mcnabb_defense_superbowl missed - is that I liked Giles and I hate to see him go. But a last place rebuilding team having a closer who can fetch a good return is a luxury. So I understand the deal.

I just hope Klentak asked for the right people in return.

As an aside they're also apparently taking an OF in the rule five tomorrow. Loading up on OFers
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: MDS on December 09, 2015, 09:45:30 PM
they are going to rid themselves of asche, so they have some space in the OF. why not. i know youll pick them to win the world series anyway.

giles was here for a millisecond and never threw a meaningful pitch....do not care that hes traded. its a great deal.
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: Geowhizzer on December 09, 2015, 09:50:43 PM
Seems like a decent trade.  Not much use keeping Giles - this team is still several years from even dreaming of contending.  Get another decent arm prospect, as well as a few other assets.

And Dillen, the Astros should be fun to watch this year.  I'll be checking in on their games.
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on December 09, 2015, 09:59:02 PM
i have no clue how his will end but almost every trade in the history of baseball where a zesty team gets three or four prospects that virtually no one has ever seen play people say they did a great job

guys the phillies got probably end up being nothing...but whats more important is that this throws two more prospects in the system which raises your odds that one or two become players....no different than what hinkie magic has done except in basketball draft picks in addition to players = prospects
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on December 09, 2015, 10:05:51 PM
But Hinkie is the devil and a disgrace!!

All I know about Velasquez is he's got a power arm. Hopefully he is what they think he can be...a solid 2-3 starter.
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: Dillen on December 09, 2015, 10:13:35 PM
Velasquez is around the same prospect caliber as Nola overall, but with health concerns. Better stuff (plus fastball and plus change), less command.

Fisher could easily be the guy who washes out and nobody hears of. Obie is a good back end guy - nothing more or nothing less, pretty much guaranteed.
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on December 10, 2015, 01:25:15 AM
Thomas Eshelman is the final piece. He's a pitcher.

Dillen...what's the word?
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on December 10, 2015, 08:39:57 AM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on December 10, 2015, 01:25:15 AM
Thomas Eshelman is the final piece. He's a pitcher.

Dillen...what's the word?

from all ive read...ceiling is end of rotation starter...raw stuff is well below average but has good command...sounds like garbage to me but thats what you usually expect with the last guy named in a deal
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: SD on December 10, 2015, 09:16:42 AM
No problem dealing Giles, you don't need a young stud closer on a team that's 3-4 years from being relevant. That's just a luxury at that point. They'll get a rule 5 guy, then there's the draft. Suddenly the minors aren't looking so bad.
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: smeags on December 10, 2015, 09:21:15 AM
Gonna be fun checking the guys out that end up playing for Reading when the team visits Trenton.
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: MDS on December 10, 2015, 11:19:15 AM
eshelman was a 2nd round pick last year, but likely another alec asher type. just pure organizational depth. nothing more, nothing less. this is what you get as the 4th piece of a trade.

velasquez and fisher are legit prospects. oberholtzer is a solid, if unspectacular, ML pitcher. this is pretty good deal for both sides. all in all. even if all of these guys stink, its was most definitely worth it.
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on December 10, 2015, 11:40:50 AM
trading a stud 25 year old closer = definitely worth it

trading jrue holiday michael carter williams and evan turner = a capital offense
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: MDS on December 10, 2015, 01:10:14 PM
the only trade i had beef with was mcw...the other 2 i supported, especially ET who is garbage on and off the court

but you know how different these sports are right? i know youre a hoops head nba junkie who increasingly doesnt care about anything that isnt on league pass, but come on.
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on December 10, 2015, 07:40:38 PM
Good call on the outrage on the MCW trade btw...he's tearing it up in Milwaukee.

You and Cataldi (and his ridiculous think of the children) reactions were spot on
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on December 10, 2015, 07:59:18 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on December 10, 2015, 07:40:38 PM
Good call on the outrage on the MCW trade btw...he's tearing it up in Milwaukee.

hes worse than ET
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: MDS on December 10, 2015, 08:04:52 PM
well, your hero is the one who drafted him. and noel. and okafor. there isnt a guaranteed all-star in that bunch. embiid is a farce. saric is a humungous question mark.

3 drafts in and he has nothing to show for it. thats why hinkie got fired, essentially. because he sucks at every single solitary part of being a gm except for stockpiling draft picks.

meanwhile, the phillies have franco, nola, crawford, thompson, velasquez, williams, herrera, altherr, eickhoff, alfaro and the #1 pick coming. and $150 mil+ in salary space to spend. and you wonder why im high on one franchise and disgusted with the other.
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on December 10, 2015, 08:07:50 PM
he turned mcw into that lakers pick...it was an absolutely brilliant move...remember he wasn't picking mcw necessarily as a great player just as an asset

its absolutely baffling that of all the things you choose to kill him for you opt for him drafting the nba rookie of the year who then is traded for a potential top 3 pick because hes not really that good
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: MDS on December 10, 2015, 08:13:26 PM
you just described what i said. he sucks at drafting players because he was no talent evaluation ability (mcw) but hes extremely good at playing the market and trading for picks (mcw).

hinkie's zone is staying behind the scenes and being a trade negotiator. it was insulting to think that this anti social nerd who openly hates the fans who could care less about the city would be fit to be a gm. the dude has been running a blatant tanking operation for 2.5 years and runs away anytime bob cooney sticks a recorder in his face. hes a coward.

and now hes jerry colangelo's errand boy. have fun sammy.

notice how the phillies hired macphail to run the team...a real adult. they didnt just hire klentak, who is 15 and not ready yet.
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on December 10, 2015, 08:20:08 PM
again going out of the way to single out mcw is so weird to me

he drafted the nba rookie of the year outside of the top ten...the he watched that player for a couple years and made a judgement that he wasn't gong to turn out all that good...how the farg can you that's not good player evaluation?

to make the trade you had to have a good enough player that other teams would want to take a chance on...and you had to believe that he wouldn't turn out to be that type of plsyer...on the second part we aren't quite there yet but I don't see mcw magically developing a shot at this stage

everything he ever did regarding mcw was correct player evaluation

im not saying hes jerry west but other than jah/porzingus I cant think of a mistake hes made yet in eval
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on December 10, 2015, 08:27:19 PM
MCW is the anti-Hinkie crews rallying cry for some odd reason

He won rookie of the year!

What will I tell my kids?!?
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: MDS on December 10, 2015, 08:38:26 PM
i dont give a shtein about that...you are just making a big deal out of something you read of said something angelo said.

if hinkie is so good at talent eval, why are the sixers 1-24? none of his 2nd round pick have amounted to anything. his pg stinks. his pf is a nobody. his center is better at punching people than basketball. hes had 3 cracks at this and done nothing. he keeps punting, waiting for the next draft and in the mean time, wasting everyones time when his wretched team steps on the floor.

if you own season tickets, what the farg are you going to do with the sixers game? how is that game going to be any fun to attend? if you are a dumb sap who buys sixers tickets or watches their boring, meaningless games, then you pretty much deserve what you get. i dont feel sorry for you there.

look...i get home from work, im tired, im beat. i just want to put the tv on a watch an entertaining basketball game. i havent been able to do that since hinkie took over. maybe now that hes been sidelined i will.
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on December 10, 2015, 08:58:05 PM
omg there is so much wrong and uninformed in that post...i cant even do it

sometimes i wish they were simply a zesty 28 win team so that they wouldn't attract people that don't know the nba or for that matter basketball...being this horrific makes them national news and gets unbelievably awful takes from people who usually wouldn't give a shtein about them
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: MDS on December 10, 2015, 09:00:12 PM
so youre ok with tanking for xx years until they get the next lebron?
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on December 10, 2015, 09:42:58 PM
Unfortunately that's the only real way to win in the NBA. You ain't winning shtein doing how they tried to do it for years.

And would keeping MCW have made this any better? No. He couldn't and still can't shoot. You, as a talent evaluator, identify that and see if you can fleece someone.

Would you rather have kept him and he gets exposed even more and then he's worth bupkis?
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: smeags on December 11, 2015, 12:35:59 PM
Wait, is this the Sixers thread ?
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: MDS on December 11, 2015, 01:52:13 PM
because havas' entire world revolves around a 1-25 basketball team
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on December 11, 2015, 03:45:06 PM
hypocrisy knows no thread
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on December 12, 2015, 11:02:20 AM
Charlie Morton traded to the Phils for a minor league pitcher
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: Dillen on December 12, 2015, 01:22:58 PM
In the Giles deal, Astros giving upAppel instead of Fisher. Lol. Good luck with that
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: QB Eagles on December 12, 2015, 01:23:52 PM
I like him as an inning eater. He has an impressive sinker that translates into a lot of ground balls. He has some upside in that he sometimes has sustained periods of looking damn good. Post AS break last year, he looked like garbage though. His career stats can somewhat mask what he is capable of, because his first few years were brutal before he made huge changes to his approach. Injuries have been a problem, but whatever -- he's a fill-in until the young guys are ready to take those innings. Best case scenario is his first half is like his early starts last season and the Phillies can derive actual trade value from him.
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on December 12, 2015, 01:48:44 PM
Seriously Appel is in the deal? Huh...interesting. The bloom is off that rose so hopefully he can recover.

And I like the Morton deal too
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on December 12, 2015, 01:54:08 PM
Ken Giles and shortstop Jonathan Arauz from Phils for Mark Appel, Harold Arauz, Thomas Eshelman, Brett Oberholtzer and Velasquez.

Dillen - what's the word on the Astros Arauz?
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: MDS on December 12, 2015, 03:22:30 PM
2 seconds ago appel was the #1 pick and people were saying hes the next clemens. now he sucks?

i love getting him over fisher....upside is super high. could very well end up sucking, but then again, thats likely what fisher was going to do.

matt klentak doing work. phils may not have a STUD arm but they are really deep with young guns
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: Dillen on December 12, 2015, 03:32:35 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on December 12, 2015, 01:54:08 PM
Dillen - what's the word on the Astros Arauz?
He's 20 and that's all I know. He doesn't matter, the Phils got Velasquez and Appel for a reliever

Quote from: MDS on December 12, 2015, 03:22:30 PM
2 seconds ago appel was the #1 pick and people were saying hes the next clemens. now he sucks?

i love getting him over fisher....upside is super high. could very well end up sucking, but then again, thats likely what fisher was going to do.

matt klentak doing work. phils may not have a STUD arm but they are really deep with young guns
Yeah. I like this trade a lot less for the Astros now. Good riddance because Appel was a really unlikeable player to me and has been as inconsistent as can be, but he's still a really good prospect and turned this into one hell of a deal for the Fils.
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: MDS on December 12, 2015, 03:45:21 PM
how was he unlikable? the jesus shtein?

at lehigh
sp: appel, thompson, efflin
rp: cordero
ss: jp
of: williams
c: knapp

yo
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: Dillen on December 12, 2015, 04:08:37 PM
Nah, he can believe whatever he wants. Just maddeningly inconsistent. In the lower minors the stros did the tandem with 5 innings/4 innings per pitcher and he got special treatment cuz he sucked coming out of the pen. They would let him always start, but he still struggled to get through those 5. I don't think I've ever seen as many 4 inning, 4 ER starts. His 2014 was one of the worst seasons I have ever seen. Doesn't seem resilient at all. Despite all this, he still has plus fastball and slider and has been dominant at times.

Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on December 12, 2015, 05:13:11 PM
I like getting Appel for the upside alone. He was inconsistent but it's worth a shot as one of five pieces in a deal for a closer who was a closer for half a season.
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on December 26, 2015, 10:14:12 PM
Re: PED scandal mentioned int the NFL thread

Choke's name is in it too
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: Geowhizzer on December 27, 2015, 01:00:55 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on December 26, 2015, 10:14:12 PM
Re: PED scandal mentioned int the NFL thread

Choke's name is in it too

He didn't take enough.
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: MDS on December 27, 2015, 01:02:08 PM
best case scenario they save 8-10 mil this year

this wouldve been a better thing to come to light 3-4 years ago....but now that his contract is ending, its kind of whatever
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on January 05, 2016, 08:48:12 AM
bp's phillies top ten is out....

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=28147
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: Geowhizzer on January 05, 2016, 11:45:08 AM
I'm looking forward to seeing what J.P. Crawford can do for the Phils.  He's the one prospect that truly excites me.
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: smeags on January 05, 2016, 12:17:50 PM
Reading visits Trenton in mid May. Def in for a game in that series.
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: MDS on January 05, 2016, 01:20:02 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 05, 2016, 08:48:12 AM
bp's phillies top ten is out....

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=28147

not that i dont like lists or disagree with their analysis, its just this stuff is so dumb.

kc made 2 world series and won 1 without help from most of these guys. who knows. http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=22285
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: Munson on January 05, 2016, 06:57:41 PM
Quote from: MDS on January 05, 2016, 01:20:02 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 05, 2016, 08:48:12 AM
bp's phillies top ten is out....

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=28147

not that i dont like lists or disagree with their analysis, its just this stuff is so dumb.

kc made 2 world series and won 1 without help from most of these guys. who knows. http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=22285

That's because they did it with the guys that filled that last 5 years ago.
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: Rome on January 05, 2016, 07:09:40 PM
The Phillies are selling spring training tickets in tiers.  The "premium" games (Saturdays plus a couple others) have a $5 premium per ticket.

Box seats are $30/ticket or $35 with the premium.  For practice.  So a family of four can figure on $140 for tickets plus at least another $100 for parking, food, drinks, etc. and that's not even counting lodging or getting there.

$250 for a spring training game to see a team that might lose 110 games next year.

Total retardation.
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on January 05, 2016, 07:11:17 PM
Honestly it's not surprising.

Everyone is all up in your pockets nowadays. We get nickle and dimed to death.
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on January 05, 2016, 07:29:37 PM
http://www.csnphilly.com/baseball-philadelphia-phillies/ryan-howard-files-defamation-lawsuit-against-ped-accuser?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

Choke is suing Al Jazeera
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on January 15, 2016, 02:39:34 PM
cras apple


http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/14572770/despite-all-doubters-mark-appel-confident-abilities
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: MDS on January 15, 2016, 08:22:57 PM
nola-apple-thompson-eickhoff-puck

in 2 years

Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on January 15, 2016, 09:15:38 PM
seems like maybe 3rd place in the division
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: MDS on January 15, 2016, 10:21:47 PM
them boys will be hitting their stride just as the mets thing crumbles
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on January 15, 2016, 10:32:23 PM
im sure....in related news doug Peterson will turn the eagles around
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: MDS on January 15, 2016, 10:48:25 PM
updated hope ranking

1) phils
2) fly guys
3) temple football
4) j returning to normal
5) sixers
6) you giving me that eagles hat you just bought
7) eagles
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on January 15, 2016, 11:05:58 PM
1. flyers
2. sixers
3. phillies
4. the same hat you could have bought five minutes ago?
5. temple I guess
6. j lol...hopeless
7. birds
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: rjs246 on January 20, 2016, 08:06:45 AM
QuotePete Mackanin knows it's going to be a "hairy situation" but plans to tell team legend Ryan Howard during spring training that if he wants to play, he'll have to hit better: "I'm going to tell him, 'If you want to face lefties, you have to hit them better. If you don't hit them better, I'm going to platoon.' That's basically what we're looking at. It's gotten to that point."

Haha a few years late there, skip.
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: MDS on January 27, 2016, 11:00:09 PM
a few weeks away from spring training and domonic brown does not have a job
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on January 29, 2016, 08:37:46 AM
http://mobile.philly.com/beta?wss=/philly/blogs/pattisonave&id=366965321
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: MDS on January 29, 2016, 11:12:25 PM
jp #5 prospect in baseball according to mlb.com
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on January 29, 2016, 11:46:34 PM
as a white dood how hyped are you for the Phillies.....you had them competing for a wild card next year...are you uppin that ante now?
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: MDS on January 30, 2016, 12:09:39 AM
a wild card in 17 is highly unlikely....18 perhaps

the free agent class just isnt there to help them. beyond that, i have no idea how crawford, williams, thompson, etc. are going to do at the ML level. though there certainly is hope that they got something.
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: QB Eagles on January 30, 2016, 01:15:52 AM
Quote from: MDS on January 29, 2016, 11:12:25 PM
jp #5 prospect in baseball according to mlb.com

Nice. That's almost as high as they ranked Domonic Brown in 2011. And now the Phillies got the #2 from that year too (Jeremy Hellickson). He was wedged right between Trout and Harper.
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on January 30, 2016, 11:26:56 AM
http://m.mlb.com/news/article/163054794/top-100-prospects-list-shows-clubs-futures?topicid=151437456
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: MDS on January 30, 2016, 11:39:35 AM
that doesnt include
kilome
#1 pick 2016
top 50 pick 2016
top 10 pick 2017

stacked
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on January 30, 2016, 11:52:10 AM
they got a lot but none look like studs with the exception of maybe crawford and even his best attribute is a good eye

that said you cant go wrong with volume....in theory one and by a miracle two of them become all stars just because someone has to
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: Dillen on January 30, 2016, 12:44:55 PM
Quote from: QB Eagles on January 30, 2016, 01:15:52 AM
Quote from: MDS on January 29, 2016, 11:12:25 PM
jp #5 prospect in baseball according to mlb.com

Nice. That's almost as high as they ranked Domonic Brown in 2011. And now the Phillies got the #2 from that year too (Jeremy Hellickson). He was wedged right between Trout and Harper.
L-o-l
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: MDS on January 30, 2016, 04:35:54 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 30, 2016, 11:52:10 AM
they got a lot but none look like studs with the exception of maybe crawford and even his best attribute is a good eye

that said you cant go wrong with volume....in theory one and by a miracle two of them become all stars just because someone has to

true. outside of crawford they dont have "a stud," though corny randy has potential to get there. so does kilome. and of course their #1 pick coming up.

most likely they are going to have a ton of solid guys, then will have to buy or trade for the big bat and arm
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on February 01, 2016, 02:44:48 PM
cream third jersey to be sat and sun days games

this to be weekday games

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CaJbKqaUsAIP4YP.jpg)


first time since 1979 that they will rock a red jersey
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: Rome on February 01, 2016, 03:47:15 PM
More overpriced bullshtein to buy. 

Oh and I'm sure they'll be overjoyed to be wearing those things in July when it's 140 on the field.

Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on February 01, 2016, 04:08:12 PM
I like the red on red...don't like that the creams are being less utilized though

Romey - will you buy me one?
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: Rome on February 01, 2016, 06:21:49 PM
The 70's jawns were maroon, not menstrual red.  So you're outta luck, Miss Texas.
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: Geowhizzer on February 01, 2016, 06:22:58 PM
(http://www.mearsonlineauctions.com/ItemImages/000066/66473f_lg.jpeg)
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: Sgt PSN on February 01, 2016, 06:53:04 PM
Red jersey ain't bad looking. Are they going with red pants, too? Because that would be awful and they'd look like a bunch of used tampons. White pants would def look better.
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: QB Eagles on February 01, 2016, 07:24:21 PM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on February 01, 2016, 06:53:04 PM
Red jersey ain't bad looking. Are they going with red pants, too? Because that would be awful and they'd look like a bunch of used tampons. White pants would def look better.

Nola's wearing jeans so maybe they are going with that.
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: Geowhizzer on February 01, 2016, 07:31:16 PM
Basically looks like their batting practice jersey.
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: Don Ho on February 02, 2016, 04:26:24 AM
Good God Geo!  That thing Carlton is wearing was awful.  That uniform totally backfired.  I think they only wore that once or twice as the players were not happy with the look.  Luzinski said "I look like a plumb!"
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on February 02, 2016, 05:43:47 AM
I love the maroon on maroon....just like I like  most the nfl and  cfb one tones

I think the red in this new uniform is too bright to pull that off tho
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: Rome on February 02, 2016, 07:55:08 AM
Quote from: Don Ho on February 02, 2016, 04:26:24 AM
Good God Geo!  That thing Carlton is wearing was awful.  That uniform totally backfired.  I think they only wore that once or twice as the players were not happy with the look.  Luzinski said "I look like a plumb!"

That's Larry Christenson.
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: SD on February 02, 2016, 09:56:20 AM
is that why he's pitching right handed
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on February 03, 2016, 12:17:58 PM
jesse biddle era - RIP
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on February 09, 2016, 04:38:04 PM
fightins in the mix if dook will wait til July to sign...either way it's great to see them consistently in the mix for these kinds of guys now

http://m.mlb.com/news/article/163991546/lazaro-lazarito-armenteros-nearing-decision?topicid=151437456e
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: MDS on February 09, 2016, 07:43:10 PM
theyve been building their arsenal for things like this for quite a while...but yea during the gillick and early amaro years they wanted nothing to do with these kind of guys
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on February 11, 2016, 09:20:53 PM
66.5 is the o/u

Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: MDS on February 17, 2016, 11:18:38 AM
matt harrison getting paid 13 mil and doesnt even have to try to show up for work

Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: smeags on February 17, 2016, 01:15:31 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on February 11, 2016, 09:20:53 PM
66.5 is the o/u

So, 80 ?

:paranoid
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: Rome on February 17, 2016, 02:46:12 PM
Losses by the ASB.
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: SD on February 17, 2016, 06:21:09 PM
VORP
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on February 18, 2016, 12:05:48 PM
FAP

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CbgrzUZW0AAfNrx.jpg)
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: SD on February 18, 2016, 12:55:38 PM
I'm so much more interested in the Phillies right now than I have been the last few years. This is what happens when you have actual prospects to watch and not a bunch of aging Veterans hanging on for dear life.
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: smeags on February 18, 2016, 01:00:11 PM
Quote from: SD on February 18, 2016, 12:55:38 PM
I'm so much more interested in the Phillies right now than I have been the last few years. This is what happens when you have actual prospects to watch and not a bunch of aging Veterans hanging on for dear life.

may 12-15 reading at trenton ... ill be there checking the prospects on reading. usually get seats right next to the visitors dugout.
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: MDS on February 18, 2016, 02:19:08 PM
Quote from: smeags on February 18, 2016, 01:00:11 PM
Quote from: SD on February 18, 2016, 12:55:38 PM
I'm so much more interested in the Phillies right now than I have been the last few years. This is what happens when you have actual prospects to watch and not a bunch of aging Veterans hanging on for dear life.

may 12-15 reading at trenton ... ill be there checking the prospects on reading. usually get seats right next to the visitors dugout.

theres a lull between the A/rookie ball guys like kilome and randloph and what theyll have at AAA . a bulk of the talent youre hearing about is going to be at lehigh, if not all of it. theres some talk that they start JP and roman at reading, but as long as his ST isnt horrible i cant see them doing that to jp. roman quite possibly. you will see alfaro though.   
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on February 19, 2016, 12:20:51 AM
every number below 85 is represented at spring training except obviously the retireds

except: jimmy....GRIT and heidi
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: MDS on February 19, 2016, 11:51:25 AM
im not sure if hamels deserves it, but jimmy and chase should be absolute locks for number retirement even if they dont make the HOF
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: Don Ho on February 20, 2016, 04:50:26 PM
Interesting:

QuoteThe international market is one place where the Phillies could seek a competitive advantage with their money. In recent years, teams have thrown millions at Latin American teenagers while Major League Baseball penalizes the high-spending clubs with taxes and future bonus limitations.

The Yankees, Red Sox, Dodgers, Angels, Diamondbacks, Cubs, Giants and Royals cannot sign an international player for more than $300,000 when the market opens July 2. That is the penalty for exceeding their bonus pools in previous years.

The Phillies are allotted $5.6 million this summer, according to figures obtained last week by Baseball America.

Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: SD on February 22, 2016, 12:51:10 PM
http://www.csnphilly.com/baseball-philadelphia-phillies/report-jimmy-rollins-signs-minor-league-deal-white-sox

Terrible. Hang Em up Jimmy. 
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: QB Eagles on February 22, 2016, 01:15:54 PM
I don't see why he necessarily has to hang 'em up if he still wants to play. In my opinion he's good enough to play in the majors as a bottom of the barrel shortstop, a fine bench utility infielder, or a low-tier everyday second baseman. He probably should transition to second for the best chances to start but I guess he has resisted that and sees the Sox as the most likely place for him to end up with a starting SS job.

This should probably be the last go-round for him and Utley though.
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: SD on February 22, 2016, 01:19:58 PM
Bouncing around from team to team at the end of your career isn't how a legend should go out. He should come home, become a coach, do commentary etc.
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: Rome on February 22, 2016, 01:31:21 PM
99% of players go out like this.  They're narcissists who've been told since they were old enough to drive that they are the greatest of the great.   Rollins was a very good player whose expiration date passed about 3 yrs ago.   I don't blame him one bit for trying to squeeze money out of some suckers, though.  Go Jimmy. 
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: QB Eagles on February 22, 2016, 01:33:05 PM
Every little bit helps to pad those HOF numbers. It's not like he's going to tarnish his legacy no matter how pathetic he is. No one cares about Babe on the Braves or Willie Mays on the Mets. He's got the next 40+ years to be a professional Philly legend.
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on February 22, 2016, 01:34:38 PM
I like watching the White Sox games so I hope he makes the team.
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on February 22, 2016, 01:43:04 PM
Quote from: SD on February 22, 2016, 01:19:58 PM
Bouncing around from team to team at the end of your career isn't how a legend should go out. He should come home, become a coach, do commentary etc.

I agree in a perfect world this is how it ends but that notion ended when willie mays the greatest baseball player of all time was stumbling around in center field for the godforsaken mets

also I think its 50/50 whether he stays out west or comes back to philly post career so theres no guarantee even if he retired today he would be back...the only reason would be because of johari...so might as well play out the string...no one is going to even remember he tried out for the white sox
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: Sgt PSN on February 22, 2016, 01:46:21 PM
Quote from: SD on February 22, 2016, 01:19:58 PM
Bouncing around from team to team at the end of your career isn't how a legend should go out. He should come home, become a coach, do commentary etc.

It's how nearly all of them go out. You should be used to it by now.
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: SD on February 22, 2016, 01:53:27 PM
Sorry fellas, I obviously hold Jimmy in a higher regard than to watch him bounce around from team to team.
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: Sgt PSN on February 22, 2016, 02:02:20 PM
I don't think it's about holding him in high regard as much as I just expect athletes to do this at the end of their careers, especially elite guys. It sucks watching them flounder around for a year or 2, looking all human and shtein, but it's his career. If he wants to keep signing minor league deals until he's 60, good on him.
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on February 22, 2016, 02:05:26 PM
imo jimmy is the greatest phillie of all time...so you cant like him more than me...and this doesn't bother me in the slightest...I was more upset over the la trade and still understood that....this doesn't even register in my heart

ill be validly upset if he doesn't end up living in philly post career and like you said work for the team much more so than either being a dodger or white sock...I cant imagine he wouldn't be fantastic on tv...thing with that even is that he might be too good and go national right away
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: QB Eagles on February 22, 2016, 02:06:19 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 22, 2016, 01:43:04 PM
also I think its 50/50 whether he stays out west or comes back to philly post career so theres no guarantee even if he retired today he would be back...the only reason would be because of johari...so might as well play out the string...no one is going to even remember he tried out for the white sox

Yeah I don't see him coming back unless he has a strong desire to work for the team... and the chances of him overwintering in Philly have to be zero. We'll see him at reunions.
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on February 22, 2016, 02:12:51 PM
Quote from: QB Eagles on February 22, 2016, 02:06:19 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 22, 2016, 01:43:04 PM
also I think its 50/50 whether he stays out west or comes back to philly post career so theres no guarantee even if he retired today he would be back...the only reason would be because of johari...so might as well play out the string...no one is going to even remember he tried out for the white sox

Yeah I don't see him coming back unless he has a strong desire to work for the team... and the chances of him overwintering in Philly have to be zero. We'll see him at reunions.

hes not going to come back live in Pennsauken and open a car wash....but I could see him come back if he a) he gets a job with the team and/or b) johari really wants to come back

and like I said I put it at 50/50 as to whether one of those two things happen...especially don't underestimate B
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on February 22, 2016, 05:25:48 PM
One of the few (only?) thing me and Mr Havas agree on is Jimmy

I didn't even want to see him leave here...I wished he would have taken that bench role here. But if he wants to try and hang on a bit, then fine. He's not completely done yet.
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: Rome on February 22, 2016, 08:12:35 PM
Schmidt was the greatest Phillie ever and it's not even remotely close.  He went out the right way although it could be said that he held on for one year too long.  At least he had the decency to quit when it became clear he was cooked. 
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: Rome on February 22, 2016, 08:14:07 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on February 22, 2016, 05:25:48 PM
He's not completely done yet.

For the love of God, Jay.  Please stop it.  I beg you.
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: MDS on February 22, 2016, 08:27:01 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on February 22, 2016, 05:25:48 PM
One of the few (only?) thing me and Mr Havas agree on is Jimmy

I didn't even want to see him leave here...I wished he would have taken that bench role here. But if he wants to try and hang on a bit, then fine. He's not completely done yet.

he hasnt hit 255 since 2011
he had a 643 ops last year

he was farging awful last year (offensively) and is pretty much done. but he played for the phillies so hes awesome.

if he played for the mets you would be mocking him.
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: QB Eagles on February 22, 2016, 08:32:08 PM
(http://www.mainlineautographs.com/images/product_pics/CARLTON0001_20090118469.gif)
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: Rome on February 22, 2016, 08:32:29 PM
His last truly productive season was 2012.   Saying he isn't done in 2016 at 37 years of age is just beyond silly.  Again, more power to him if he can get someone to pay him gobs of money, but come on...
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on February 22, 2016, 08:46:02 PM
Quote from: MDS on February 22, 2016, 08:27:01 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on February 22, 2016, 05:25:48 PM
One of the few (only?) thing me and Mr Havas agree on is Jimmy

I didn't even want to see him leave here...I wished he would have taken that bench role here. But if he wants to try and hang on a bit, then fine. He's not completely done yet.

he hasnt hit 255 since 2011
he had a 643 ops last year

he was farging awful last year (offensively) and is pretty much done. but he played for the phillies so hes awesome.

if he played for the mets you would be mocking him.

I've missed your contrarian views. Please tell me more
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: QB Eagles on February 22, 2016, 08:47:22 PM
Quote from: Rome on February 22, 2016, 08:32:29 PM
His last truly productive season was 2012.

In 2014 he was tied for third among shortstops in WAR. If that's too fancy for you, he led all SS in walks and was tied for third in steals. He sucked at the plate last year, but not so much that he's no longer a major league asset. Some of the deeper offensive stats show that his contact wasn't all that different last year than in the previous few years.

He's no spring chicken, but he's less washed up than Chooch.
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: MDS on February 22, 2016, 09:35:20 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on February 22, 2016, 08:46:02 PM
Quote from: MDS on February 22, 2016, 08:27:01 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on February 22, 2016, 05:25:48 PM
One of the few (only?) thing me and Mr Havas agree on is Jimmy

I didn't even want to see him leave here...I wished he would have taken that bench role here. But if he wants to try and hang on a bit, then fine. He's not completely done yet.

he hasnt hit 255 since 2011
he had a 643 ops last year

he was farging awful last year (offensively) and is pretty much done. but he played for the phillies so hes awesome.

if he played for the mets you would be mocking him.

I've missed your contrarian views. Please tell me more

youre a giant homer and it causes you to have incorrect, borderline pathologically misguided viewpoints on inconsequential sports topics
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on February 22, 2016, 10:08:34 PM
Quote from: MDS on February 22, 2016, 09:35:20 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on February 22, 2016, 08:46:02 PM
Quote from: MDS on February 22, 2016, 08:27:01 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on February 22, 2016, 05:25:48 PM
One of the few (only?) thing me and Mr Havas agree on is Jimmy

I didn't even want to see him leave here...I wished he would have taken that bench role here. But if he wants to try and hang on a bit, then fine. He's not completely done yet.

he hasnt hit 255 since 2011
he had a 643 ops last year

he was farging awful last year (offensively) and is pretty much done. but he played for the phillies so hes awesome.

if he played for the mets you would be mocking him.

I've missed your contrarian views. Please tell me more

youre a giant homer and it causes you to have incorrect, borderline pathologically misguided viewpoints on inconsequential sports topics

Kinda like your assessment of me...incorrect and borderline pathologically misguided
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: MDS on February 22, 2016, 10:39:52 PM
i know you better than you know where to find a good taco on 9th st
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on February 23, 2016, 07:03:40 AM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on February 22, 2016, 05:25:48 PM
He's not completely done yet.

yes he is...but that doesn't mean you have to be salty about him trying to hang on...like I said before in two years much less deep into his legacy people are going to be like "oh shtein that's right jimmy was with the white sox...I completely forgot about that"

anyone hating on him for this also most likely thinks that his career was tarnished because he didn't run out an infield pop once

the only time I really care about an athlete hanging on is if its football or boxing where you are concerned for their health...other than that who the eff cares how long someone plays for
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: smeags on February 23, 2016, 09:37:19 AM
If its not a player on the phils roster I could care less if they hang on too long.
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on February 23, 2016, 09:54:15 AM
even if that happened you would blame the phillies not the player.....a player can only "hang on" if a team allows them to

this notion that a player should retire for the betterment of the team he plays for (or really for any other reason other than health) is laughable
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: SD on February 23, 2016, 09:55:16 AM
Really wish Jimmy would just retire already.
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: smeags on February 23, 2016, 10:07:23 AM
Eastbound and down
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: Geowhizzer on February 23, 2016, 11:57:01 AM
Ideal scenario would have been Rollins retiring a life-long Phillie.  Unfortunately, the reality of the MLB economics today is that just doesn't happen often.

I'll check out the White Sox a few times this season just to see him a few times.

And, unfortunately, I believe he's falling short of HOF consideration.  He needed an additional 2 or 3 good seasons to get in that discussion.  He'll be in that "very good, but not great enough for long enough" category with the likes of Alan Trammell.
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: MDS on February 23, 2016, 12:55:41 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 23, 2016, 09:54:15 AM
even if that happened you would blame the phillies not the player.....a player can only "hang on" if a team allows them to

this notion that a player should retire for the betterment of the team he plays for (or really for any other reason other than health) is laughable

he knows exactly what hes doing.

Quote from: Geowhizzer on February 23, 2016, 11:57:01 AMI'll check out the White Sox a few times this season just to see him a few times.


if he makes the team....big if to everyone but our boy
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on February 24, 2016, 06:16:06 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CcAxriSWwAAMtX2.jpg)
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on February 24, 2016, 06:48:20 PM
Better than a Dodgers uni
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: QB Eagles on February 26, 2016, 11:52:44 AM
The Blue Jays signed HOF to a minor league deal.

I suspect he has fewer major league games in his future than Jimmy does.
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: Rome on February 26, 2016, 12:53:56 PM
Victorino signed with the Cubs.   Another ring?
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on March 01, 2016, 08:22:07 AM
bourjos - lf
odeeee - cf
frankie - 3b
choke - 1b
altherr - rf
arencibia - dh
cesar - 2b
chooch - c
freddie - ss

severino
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: phattymatty on March 01, 2016, 09:01:12 AM
i have no idea if those are real names or your cool way of spelling things.
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on March 01, 2016, 09:05:45 AM
real names....that's also probably their opening day lineup this year minus arenciabia
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: Rome on March 01, 2016, 09:54:20 AM
They might lose 110 games this year.  Or they might surprise us and only lose 100.

Either way, see ya in 2019.
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on March 01, 2016, 10:28:39 AM
they definitely have a legit shot at back to back number one picks..ironically tho I don't think they even finish last in their own division....the braves are reeeeeeeally bad
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: QB Eagles on March 01, 2016, 10:58:54 AM
Widely assumed that the Brewers and Reds are more than capable of losing 100 too. And actually their strategies seem closer to pure tanking than the more methodical rebuilds happening in the NL East. Lot of competition for that bottom spot this year. NL is a dumpster fire outside of the top few teams.
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: SD on March 01, 2016, 01:13:46 PM
If anyone is working from home, the Phils are on CSN.
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on March 01, 2016, 02:18:35 PM
its also on mlbn
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on March 01, 2016, 02:19:23 PM
nm
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on March 02, 2016, 08:16:11 AM
i wanna jerk my junk all over the top of this lineup....

quinntastic - cf
JfaP - ss
frankie - 3b
ruf - 1b
lough - lf
altherr - rf
rupp - c
sweeney - dh
ceasar - 2b
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: MDS on March 02, 2016, 12:39:44 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 02, 2016, 08:16:11 AM
JfaP - ss


huh
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on March 02, 2016, 12:45:21 PM
Quote from: MDS on March 02, 2016, 12:39:44 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 02, 2016, 08:16:11 AM
JfaP - ss


huh

J fa P

he's saying he wants to stroke it to JP
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: Rome on March 02, 2016, 01:51:36 PM
Can we just post their actual last names?   That would be super. 
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: MDS on March 02, 2016, 08:00:35 PM
why not jay pee
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on March 06, 2016, 01:20:48 PM
im going to milwaukee next month to see the phils and its insane how cheap brewer tickets are....you can get like 10th row behind the Phillies dugout for 40 bucks...and you can get 5th row upper deck in the infield for 8 bucks
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: SD on March 06, 2016, 01:22:59 PM
I'm heading to Denver second week of July for the Phils/Rockies series. I'll probably get high
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: Sgt PSN on March 06, 2016, 01:48:39 PM
Quote from: SD on March 06, 2016, 01:22:59 PM
I'm heading to Denver second week of July to get high. I'll probably catch the Phillies while they're in town.

This makes more sense to me.
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on March 06, 2016, 02:08:22 PM
http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/page/springtraining_philliesshortstops

Fap fap

Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: MDS on March 06, 2016, 02:09:48 PM
j whats the win total this year
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on March 06, 2016, 02:10:03 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 06, 2016, 01:20:48 PM
im going to milwaukee next month to see the phils and its insane how cheap brewer tickets are....you can get like 10th row behind the Phillies dugout for 40 bucks...and you can get 5th row upper deck in the infield for 8 bucks

You're going there specifically for the Phils or going to see them bc you happen to be in Mikwaukee?

Who voluntarily goes to Milwaukee?
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on March 06, 2016, 02:18:25 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on March 06, 2016, 02:10:03 PM
You're going there specifically for the Phils or going to see them bc you happen to be in Mikwaukee?

phils mostly but ive wanted to visit milwaukee for a while...I originally wanted to go to see the sixers but it didn't work out so im going for the phils instead

milwaukee is supposed to be the best bar town in the country...last year an episode of best bars in America which is an awesome show on esquire did an episode there and it looked wonderful
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: MDS on March 08, 2016, 05:24:23 PM
altherr out 4-6 months

that sucks
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on March 08, 2016, 05:48:48 PM
Yeah that blows.
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: SD on March 08, 2016, 05:49:41 PM
damn
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on March 08, 2016, 07:09:53 PM
hes basically john mayberry jr jr....garbage "prospect"
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: MDS on March 08, 2016, 07:49:08 PM
and the noted talent evaluater chimes in
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on March 08, 2016, 08:49:14 PM
lol

Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on March 09, 2016, 05:35:27 AM
not sure what to do with anyone who thinks Aaron altherr had any future with the phils outside of a defensive 4th or 5th outfielder....but then again the smartest men in the world have never been able to explain homers and I'm not a smart man

did I want him to get hurt of course not but any comment of worry or loss of sleep over this bum is pretty hilarious
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: SD on March 09, 2016, 06:45:35 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 08, 2016, 07:09:53 PM
hes basically john mayberry jr jr....garbage "prospect"

So AAAltherr
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on March 09, 2016, 06:53:44 AM
lol....YES!
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: MDS on March 09, 2016, 10:19:09 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 09, 2016, 05:35:27 AM
not sure what to do with anyone who thinks Aaron altherr had any future with the phils outside of a defensive 4th or 5th outfielder....but then again the smartest men in the world have never been able to explain homers and I'm not a smart man

did I want him to get hurt of course not but any comment of worry or loss of sleep over this bum is pretty hilarious

thats just not accurate, but talking to you is like talking to a republican. there is a brick wall where facts and logic cannot get through.

but most players never pan out so if you keep going with the "everyone sucks" thing you will hit for a high average
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on March 09, 2016, 11:00:46 AM
and some players have a really really small chance of panning out with a tiny little ceiling....like AAAltherr

where as others have a good chance like crawford where skys the limit
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: QB Eagles on March 09, 2016, 11:47:35 AM
HOF Crawford
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: smeags on March 09, 2016, 12:35:21 PM
please, more debate about altherr.
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on March 09, 2016, 12:44:12 PM
here you go....

Quote from: MDS on March 08, 2016, 05:24:23 PM
altherr out 4-6 months

that sucks

Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on March 08, 2016, 05:48:48 PM
Yeah that blows.

Quote from: SD on March 08, 2016, 05:49:41 PM
damn
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on March 09, 2016, 01:07:59 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 09, 2016, 12:44:12 PM
here you go....

Quote from: MDS on March 08, 2016, 05:24:23 PM
altherr out 4-6 months

that sucks

Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on March 08, 2016, 05:48:48 PM
Yeah that blows.

Quote from: SD on March 08, 2016, 05:49:41 PM
damn

you forgot you saying he sucks and is another MAAAyberry.
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: smeags on March 09, 2016, 01:39:41 PM
Cause he's being a wiseAAAss
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on March 09, 2016, 02:01:47 PM
Just another dAAAy in HAAAvas land
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on March 09, 2016, 02:29:32 PM
just seemed like you guys were on the verge of tears when he got hurt...I was concerned....but now maybe next time I wont be
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on March 09, 2016, 02:48:58 PM
lolol

"that sucks/blows" doesn't equal verge of tears
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: smeags on March 09, 2016, 02:59:23 PM
Verge of teAAArs ????
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on March 10, 2016, 03:54:27 PM
good god does alfaro rape the look test
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: MDS on March 10, 2016, 04:37:22 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 10, 2016, 03:54:27 PM
good god does alfaro rape the look test

dude can maul...question is where to put him. he might not be catcher material, but has a ++ arm, so RF then, possibly. 
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on March 11, 2016, 04:31:51 PM
Bats have looked good

Beat up lil guys boy KK today
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: MDS on March 11, 2016, 11:08:19 PM
im bullish on the youngins too but spring training results any which way are meaningless
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: Don Ho on March 15, 2016, 02:04:50 AM
Franco with 6 dongers this spring.
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: Sgt PSN on March 15, 2016, 03:05:48 AM
I don't see how his sexual activity is relevant.
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on March 15, 2016, 08:23:39 AM
lehigh valley pitching staff gotta be ridiculous
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: Don Ho on March 16, 2016, 01:07:21 AM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on March 15, 2016, 03:05:48 AM
I don't see how his sexual activity is relevant.

Oh yeah, he's stroking the stick well, seeing balls and oh farg you!
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: MDS on March 16, 2016, 02:14:46 PM
looks like andrew baily is going to be the closer

aspects of this team and the lehgh squad are going to be fun....but holy hell this bullpen is putrid and full of nothing but washed up hasbeens
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: Don Ho on March 18, 2016, 10:13:19 PM
Not that it matters as they will blow no matter what but you are correct, the bullpen is an abomination.

Choke may have hit his last grand slam today.
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on March 21, 2016, 01:57:29 PM
Sounds like they've offered Maik Maik a 6yr $39m deal
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on March 23, 2016, 03:45:47 PM
helly gets opening day

nola gets home opening day
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: Geowhizzer on March 23, 2016, 04:09:10 PM
What's the over/under for the date the Phils are mathematically eliminated from the playoffs?
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: smeags on March 23, 2016, 04:15:44 PM
Quote from: Geowhizzer on March 23, 2016, 04:09:10 PM
What's the over/under for the date the Phils are mathematically eliminated from the playoffs?

Today
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on March 23, 2016, 04:37:58 PM
Quote from: Geowhizzer on March 23, 2016, 04:09:10 PM
What's the over/under for the date the Phils are mathematically eliminated from the playoffs?

the first time the bullpen is needed to win a game
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: SD on March 23, 2016, 05:23:50 PM
Quote from: smeags on March 23, 2016, 04:15:44 PM
Quote from: Geowhizzer on March 23, 2016, 04:09:10 PM
What's the over/under for the date the Phils are mathematically eliminated from the playoffs?

Today

lol
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: Geowhizzer on March 23, 2016, 08:16:36 PM
Quote from: smeags on March 23, 2016, 04:15:44 PM
Quote from: Geowhizzer on March 23, 2016, 04:09:10 PM
What's the over/under for the date the Phils are mathematically eliminated from the playoffs?

Today

That long?
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: smeags on March 24, 2016, 08:08:24 AM
I can't help it, I'm a homer fan.
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: Rome on March 24, 2016, 09:19:59 AM
These losers are playing at Disney today.  This close to going. 
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: smeags on March 24, 2016, 09:35:47 AM
Please stay away from that area next week.
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: MDS on March 24, 2016, 10:16:28 PM
dont tell me i never did anything for yall

https://www.mitchellandness.com/catalog/product/view/id/84143/
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: Geowhizzer on March 24, 2016, 10:23:53 PM
If I only didn't live in Southwest Florida...
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on March 25, 2016, 11:50:05 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 02, 2015, 10:25:48 AM
also if hes worthy as the number one overall i want jason groome really bad...would be cool to get a local kid number one overall....plus he has the most upside of any of the guys at the top right now...also baseball is a different animal in that they play a whole season of their sport before the draft takes place....theres so much development to still take place...so its possible btwn now and next june that a guy emerges as a dominant prospect...maybe not bryce harperish but a far and away consensus number one overall...and if that happens you obviously want the one

oooooooh yeeeeeaaaah....

http://www.nj.com/phillies/index.ssf/2016/03/jason_groome_phillies_draft.html
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: Don Ho on March 25, 2016, 04:55:26 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 23, 2016, 04:37:58 PM
Quote from: Geowhizzer on March 23, 2016, 04:09:10 PM
What's the over/under for the date the Phils are mathematically eliminated from the playoffs?

the first time the bullpen is needed to win a game

LMFAO!
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: Don Ho on March 25, 2016, 04:56:50 PM
Quote from: Geowhizzer on March 23, 2016, 04:09:10 PM
What's the over/under for the date the Phils are mathematically eliminated from the playoffs?

What day did pitchers & catchers report?
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: Rome on March 26, 2016, 08:47:31 AM
http://purchase.tickets.com/buy/MLBEventInfo?pid=8208681&agency=PHLV_EXPPASS

Wow.
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: Rome on March 27, 2016, 09:13:33 AM
(https://scontent.ftpa1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpl1/v/t1.0-9/1913520_10156786574440492_1700043953853293668_n.jpg?oh=7933319a5256e00a488a5e470cab1722&oe=579797AC)

No matter how inept this team is in terms of management or how brutal they are on the field, they always have the Phanatic.

So awesome.
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on March 28, 2016, 12:07:02 PM
excellent news.....double vee gets the final spot in the rotation
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on March 28, 2016, 05:30:57 PM
That is good news. He needs to be in the rotation.

Kinda surprised that they sent down Luis Garcia with as piss poor as the BP projects to be.

Saw they picked up Will Venable too
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: Rome on March 28, 2016, 05:32:20 PM
Feel the excitement!
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: MDS on March 28, 2016, 07:11:30 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on March 28, 2016, 05:30:57 PM
Luis Garcia

he has a 1.66 career whip and walks a batter every other inning

dude stinks
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: smeags on March 30, 2016, 01:56:18 PM
At the final spring training game.

Fappity fap
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on March 30, 2016, 03:41:35 PM
grooooooooooooom

http://www.baseballamerica.com/draft/165543/#C0bmqGPkcldg6kqR.97
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: MDS on March 31, 2016, 09:00:52 PM
trivia time

can you name the single season rbi leader post 1965 that wasnt on steroids at the time (probably, most likely)
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: Sgt PSN on April 01, 2016, 11:06:58 AM
Schmidt or Howard would be the kind of obvious choice, but it's probably some obscure player like Lance Parrish. 



Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on April 01, 2016, 12:22:25 PM
choke in the midst of a roid investigation and lance parrish was all roided up
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: Geowhizzer on April 01, 2016, 12:25:20 PM
Has Andres Gallaraga been connected with steroids?  I always assume yes for any player in the 1990s, but I don't know for certain.
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: MDS on April 01, 2016, 01:27:01 PM
should preface that by saying it was for all of mlb

but yea it was choke in 2006
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: MDS on April 01, 2016, 01:32:48 PM
bacon boys
appel, efflin, thompson, williams, knapp

reading rainbow
alfaro, crawford, quinn

clearwooder
kingery, tocci, kilome

bakewood
corny randy
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: SD on April 01, 2016, 01:41:53 PM
I watched the Phutures game last night, Appel got rocked.
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on April 01, 2016, 04:28:39 PM
Quote from: MDS on March 31, 2016, 09:00:52 PM
that wasnt on steroids at the time (probably, most likely)

Quote from: MDS on April 01, 2016, 01:27:01 PM
it was choke in 2006

does not compute....hes literally under investigation for sterioids as we speak....he easily could have been on something then...not saying he 100% was but he absolutely doesn't belong anywhere near the answer to the question
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: Rome on April 01, 2016, 09:06:46 PM
Did anyone else catch Maik-Maik's dinger?  Nuked that shtein.  Good God.

http://m.mlb.com/video/v570265883/balphi-franco-lifts-one-into-the-upper-deck-in-left
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: Rome on April 01, 2016, 10:00:48 PM
Leave it to the Phillies to sign the one Cuban on the planet who can't play baseball...

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2016/04/phillies-release-miguel-alfredo-gonzalez.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+MlbTradeRumors+%28MLB+Trade+Rumors%29
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on April 02, 2016, 03:39:44 AM
my out on a limb prediction for this year.....

o doo will finish in the top three NL hit leaders this year
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: Eagles_Legendz on April 02, 2016, 09:09:58 AM
Quote from: MDS on March 31, 2016, 09:00:52 PM
trivia time

can you name the single season rbi leader post 1965 that wasnt on steroids at the time (probably, most likely)

Griffey had 147 in '97.
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: MDS on April 02, 2016, 10:03:14 AM
choke had 149 in 2006

i dont see him having done roids, at least then
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: Rome on April 02, 2016, 12:01:05 PM
Why would a guy who was 6'4" and 250 in the prime of his career do steroids?  No farging way Howard was jacking up. 
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: Sgt PSN on April 02, 2016, 04:36:38 PM
Howard's career up to the torn Achilles was most likely roid free. I could definitely see him using something after the injury though.
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: MDS on April 04, 2016, 11:57:45 AM
count the major leaguers

cesar
odb
like maik
choke
chooch
hunter
bourjos
galvis
hellickson
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: Eagles_Legendz on April 04, 2016, 12:06:08 PM
At this stage of their careers that lineup is 1.5 MLB regulars.
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on April 04, 2016, 01:05:26 PM
Quote from: Rome on April 02, 2016, 12:01:05 PM
Why would a guy who was 6'4" and 250 in the prime of his career do steroids?  No farging way Howard was jacking up.

why did McGuire sosa canseco or anyone else do steroids in the prime of their careers

i have no idea if choke did them or not...he probably didn't...but its laughable to say a guy who is currently under investigation for roids 100% didn't do them...again im just going by the lil guys trivia question...choke cannot be an answer
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on April 04, 2016, 01:08:30 PM
Quote from: Eagles_Legendz on April 04, 2016, 12:06:08 PM
At this stage of their careers that lineup is 1.5 MLB regulars.

only 4 guys on the entire roster were drafted by the phillies
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on April 04, 2016, 04:18:06 PM
how often do you see an eight pitch at bat where all eight pitches were strikes
Title: Re: 2015 Phillies Offseason Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 04, 2016, 04:20:07 PM
leadoff double...do not score

deja vu all over again