2009 Phillies Offseason Thread

[ice grillin you]

blanton is arbitration eligible so he will be back

drabek will fight for the 5th spot in the rotation...no chance hes close to a top of the rotation guy....hes not even guaranteed to make the club

[BigEd76]

Drabek will be in Lehigh Valley

Park won't be back if he still thinks he's a starter

Myers will probably get a fresh start somewhere else.....I think they've had enough of his crap

Even if Eyre decides to come back for another season, they need another lefty specialist besides JC.  Mike Gonzalez will probably be a Type A FA and close somewhere.  Darren Oliver might be a Type A too.

The bench needs to be overhauled.  Would Thome accept a 1-yr deal for about $3M to come back, replace Stairs, maybe play 2-3 games at 1B and be a DH for interleague and hopefully the WS?  DeRosa, Hairston Jr and Belliard are also FAs...

3B...if you don't bring Feliz back, besides Figgins there's also Adrian Beltre, Troy Glaus, Joe Crede and Melvin Mora out there...

[phattymatty]

phils go after halladay again in the offseason and get him.

lee-halladay-hamels-blanton-happ

[MDS]

one rumor floated to me was hamels and brown/taylor for halladay.

just on the basis that trading one means you need to long term BOTH werth and vic, plus probably happ at some point, and then give hallday at least 5 years at big money means ownership will have to okay a huge payroll increase. like closer to $160 range than the $120 theyre in.

if thats okayed, and they have the cash to do it, then great. pull the trigger. if not, throw in the all the mid level prospects you want plus hamels to rent halladay for a year. go lee/halladay 1-2 and stick it up the yankees cornholes.

[mpmcgraw]

one rumor floated to me was hamels and brown/taylor for halladay.

just on the basis that trading one means you need to long term BOTH werth and vic, plus probably happ at some point, and then give hallday at least 5 years at big money means ownership will have to okay a huge payroll increase. like closer to $160 range than the $120 theyre in.

if thats okayed, and they have the cash to do it, then great. pull the trigger. if not, throw in the all the mid level prospects you want plus hamels to rent halladay for a year. go lee/halladay 1-2 and stick it up the yankees cornholes.

Thats not a rumor. 

[mpmcgraw]

i dont care how overpaid he is going to be get chone figgins put him at 3b and leadoff (move jimmy down in the order)

get the best OF bench player you can find because ibanez is done and is going to fall like a boulder starting next year...they are going to need someone to platoon with him if hes simply below average or take over for him if hes horrible

trade happ....his value will never be higher and while i dont think hs kyle kendrick im not sure hes a major league starting pitcher either and even if he is he certainly has a worth right now that far exceeds his potential

pray hamels gets it back

get charlie a sufficient right hand man ala jimy williams

throw wheels off the walt whitman

Michael Taylor is more than ready if someone gets hurt next year.

Unless of course you want them to trade Victorion and put Taylor in right which I would 100% do.

[MDS]

not a rumor is an in totally made up? or fact? cause i keep forgetting that youre so connected.

[mpmcgraw]

As in totally made up.

[Rome]

<---- Still bitter and enraged...

[MDS]

As in totally made up.

possibly, but its a feasible none the less. and i would really look into it.

also trading hacktorino im all for. sign figgins to lead off, start taylor and see what you can get for vic.

[mpmcgraw]

From what I understand the Phillies are financially maxed out as far as the payroll goes.  Maybe this changed because of the World Series, maybe it hasn't, but I definitely wouldn't count on a 30 million increase on a payroll a year after the payroll went up 20 million.

I'm pretty sure 160 million would put the Phillies a close third in payroll behind Boston if not ahead of them.

[MDS]

that would put them in sox/mets range, yea.

im sure they can afford. they caked off this year like igy.

[mpmcgraw]

Also, something needs to be done about Rollins. 

He is another guy like Happ and Victorino whose percieved value far exceeds their actual value.  He's in the last year of his contract and after 2 World Series appearances I think Amaro might want to shake things up big time.  This might be the way to do it.  Get a few stud left side of the infield prospects and ensure we keep this thing going well into the teens.

[ice grillin you]

one rumor floated to me was hamels and brown/taylor for halladay.

no way i trade hamels in the off season...i def go into next year with hamels as my 2 and see what he does...because if he shows hes back then you gave up him and brown for no reason...if he shteins the bed again then you have all year to make an in season move with prospects

Michael Taylor is more than ready if someone gets hurt next year.

Unless of course you want them to trade Victorion and put Taylor in right which I would 100% do.

that would be insane on a team whose goal is to win the world series next year to roll the dice on a complete unknown rookie and dump a proven veteran...thats why id be willing to have taylor platoon with ibanez and see if he is capable of being major leaguer at all much less a full timer

[Rome]

LOL @ the continued Rollins hate from Beane.

Retard.