I posted it first! (http://www.iht.com/articles/2006/06/08/africa/web.0608zarqawi.php)
...and who farging cares all around. In a deep dark pit of my heart, I was kind of rooting for this guy. I wonder if Bin Laden has finished digging his 5-mile deep hole in Pakistan.
If there ever was a candidate for the good riddance thread... this is it.
{BUSH}This is a huge victory for our fight for freedom. One less evil-doer who hated liberty. Now lets see what we can do about those flags. I propose the war on queerism. God bless us all.{BUSH}
I'm glad he's dead, mostly because of the guy who's head he sawed off with a serrated knife.
But this will have absolutely no effect on what's going on in Iraq. If anything, it will increase the number of attacks in the short term.
Good riddance indeed.
Quote from: MadMarchHare on June 08, 2006, 07:46:03 AM
I'm glad he's dead, mostly because of the guy who's head he sawed off with a serrated knife.
But this will have absolutely no effect on what's going on in Iraq. If anything, it will increase the number of attacks in the short term.
Agreed. The problem with fighting an organization rather than a nation is that its leaders are usually easily replaced. Six months from now there will be someone in his place.
I'm glad he's dead, mostly because of the guy who's head he sawed off with a serrated knife.
But this will have absolutely no effect on what's going on in Iraq.
I disagree, Joel. al-Zarqawi was the head of the snake in Iraq. Killing him was a major strike against al-Qaida.
Sure, someone will take his place but the fact is he was quickly gaining legendary and almost mythical stature in the Middle East. Taking him out lets the ragheads know that anyone can be gotten to eventually.
This might be a crushing blow to the insurgency in Iraq. Then again, it might not. I sure as hell hope it is.
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on June 08, 2006, 08:53:34 AM
I disagree, Joel. al-Zarqawi was the head of the snake in Iraq. Killing him was a major strike against al-Qaida.
Sure, someone will take his place but the fact is he was quickly gaining legendary and almost mythical stature in the Middle East. Taking him out lets the ragheads know that anyone can be gotten to eventually.
This might be a crushing blow to the insurgency in Iraq. Then again, it might not. I sure as hell hope it is.
I hope you are correct...time will tell.
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on June 08, 2006, 08:53:34 AMTaking him out lets the ragheads know that anyone can be gotten to eventually.
Please stay in Florida. You're not just dreaming, you're doing it out loud with KKK language. Nice.
Also, you are mistaken about the snake's head/major blow idea. The insurgency in Iraq will continue as long as the occupation continues. The U.S. has lost and everyone knows it. It's just a matter of time.
Sure, someone will take his place but the fact is he was quickly gaining legendary and almost mythical stature in the Middle East. Taking him out lets the ragheads know that anyone can be gotten to eventually.
fyi - the 'ragheads' consider it an honor to die and will be lining up to carry on this cats legacy and would be more than happy to go out like he did
lolol @ you thinking these guys are worried that the US might be able to get to them
the only way this effects anything is if zarqawi was some sort of tactical genius and has leadership skills that are irreplacable...i highly doubt thats the case but that would be the only scenario where this would negatively effect the insurgency
Quote from: Diomedes on June 08, 2006, 09:18:24 AM
The U.S. has lost and everyone knows it. It's just a matter of time.
Define "lost". Its actually impossible for the US to "lose" the war in Iraq...we will not be defeated on the battlefield. I actually see a "Vietnamish" finish to this one, where we establish a crooked, creaky "democracy", withdrawal our troops declaring "peace with honor", then the Islamofacists will overthrow the democracy.
much like Somalia, except we backed warlords and thats backfiring. Im just happy the punk is dead i hope he bled out slowly.
I take it they've positively identified the body this time?
http://news.yahoo.com has a picture of his pale dead head....
Funny thing about that...when "they" show the corpse of a dead coalition combatant, everyone cries foul.
But when "we" show pictures, it's alright.
i love how showing dead bodies on TV is ok, but boobs? EVIL!
And what about a shot of the beef wallet every now and then. I mean COME ON!
Quote from: Diomedes on June 08, 2006, 09:18:24 AM
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on June 08, 2006, 08:53:34 AMTaking him out lets the ragheads know that anyone can be gotten to eventually.
Please stay in Florida. You're not just dreaming, you're doing it out loud with KKK language. Nice.
Also, you are mistaken about the snake's head/major blow idea. The insurgency in Iraq will continue as long as the occupation continues. The U.S. has lost and everyone knows it. It's just a matter of time.
Gimme a farging break, Dio.
You have the balls to call me a racist because I use the word "raghead" when you run off at the mouth using words like "wigger" in describing IGY?
Stop it.
As far as the U.S. having lost, you couldn't be more wrong. Maybe people such as yourself would prefer America to surrender to those gutless, murdering cowards but there are people out there who surely would not. I'm no Bush supporter. Not by a longshot but that doesn't mean I don't support our country or its troops in this war and that's exactly what this is... a farging war.
a war without an end is a lost war....and it has the makings of just that. Its sickening it has even gotten to this point
Quote from: reese125 on June 08, 2006, 11:11:24 AM
a war without an end is a lost war....and it has the makings of just that. Its sickening it has even gotten to this point
No war is without end. There is always going to be a winner and a loser, its just a matter of time. How long is enough? Three years? Five? Twenty? After three years you are declaring this a "war without end"? Thats a tad shortsighted.
I just want to see some pink on the tv.
Quote from: Diomedes on June 08, 2006, 10:48:40 AM
Funny thing about that...when "they" show the corpse of a dead coalition combatant, everyone cries foul.
But when "we" show pictures, it's alright.
I think the reason we show pictures of high ranking bad guys is so the death can't be denied by middle east media. The only pictures I have seen are of Saddams two sons and Zarqawi :-\
Check out the F-16 video on CNN. I'm surprised there was a finger left to print, much less a head to identify.
I think the reason we show pictures of high ranking bad guys is so the death can't be denied by middle east media. The only pictures I have seen are of Saddams two sons and Zarqawi :-\
We show those pictures to skew the heads of Americans that we are winning the war on terrorism, and that we have done something truly significant in Iraq
Glad he is gone. He was responsible for more Iraqi civilian deaths then actual attacks on foreign military targets. The fact that some in Al Qaeda thought he was too psycho for their cause says something.
Even if Al Qaeda has been neutralized you now have to deal with the Sunni insurgancy against the Shiite majority. Then there's that radical Shia faction too.
Anyone feel that Vietnam was a police action that was actually a war and Iraq is a war that's actually a police action? Just me? OK.
I second more pink on TV. I mean really Janet Jackson's tit hanging out in the super bowl was the highlight of an otherwise lame half time show. They should do that every year.
The biggest positive about this story IMO, is that the news is saying (at least the reports this morning) that his location was given up by locals and people from his own group. If that is true, that is a good sign for us.
Quote from: phillymic2000 on June 08, 2006, 11:55:29 AM
The biggest positive about this story IMO, is that the news is saying (at least the reports this morning) that his location was given up by locals and people from his own group. If that is true, that is a good sign for us.
:yay :yay :yay :yay :yay
No war is without end. There is always going to be a winner and a loser, its just a matter of time. How long is enough? Three years? Five? Twenty? After three years you are declaring this a "war without end"? Thats a tad shortsighted.
The question is will you be around then to see "an end" Butcher Bill--and your avatar scares me
Quote from: MadMarchHare on June 08, 2006, 11:36:25 AM
Check out the F-16 video on CNN. I'm surprised there was a finger left to print, much less a head to identify.
I wonder how many civilians were killed or injured by those two 500 pound bombs, if any? Not that they matter, of course.
U.S.A.!! U.S.A.!!
Quote from: Diomedes on June 08, 2006, 12:18:46 PM
Quote from: MadMarchHare on June 08, 2006, 11:36:25 AM
Check out the F-16 video on CNN. I'm surprised there was a finger left to print, much less a head to identify.
I wonder how many civilians were killed or injured by those two 500 pound bombs, if any? Not that they matter, of course.
U.S.A.!! U.S.A.!!
Let me guess...you would have prefered we send in 15-20 Marines to get slaughtered in house to house fighting, only to let the guy slip away again?
If it meant lower risk of civilian casualty, yes that's what I would prefer. Except instead of your assinine ending, I'd prefer the Marines get him.
Honorable: Risking the lives of your soldiers to get the bad guys.
Honorable: Risking the lives of your soldiers to do so with as little risk as possible to civilians.
Not Honorable: Dropping 1000 lbs of bombs from 30,000 feet, and so what if anyone gets in the way.
If we really meant to secure the safety of Iraq, we'd put 750,000 U.S. soldiers in there, lose a hell of a lot more of them, and lock that shtein down. We'd send 300 guys at that safe house instead of a bomb. We'd act like men.
Bombing is terrorism. All bombing.
:-D
Quote from: Diomedes on June 08, 2006, 12:36:11 PM
If it meant lower risk of civilian casualty, yes that's what I would prefer. Except instead of your assinine ending, I'd prefer the Marines get him.
Honorable: Risking the lives of your soldiers to get the bad guys.
Honorable: Risking the lives of your soldiers to do so with as little risk as possible to civilians.
Not Honorable: Dropping 1000 lbs of bombs from 30,000 feet, and so what if anyone gets in the way.
If we really meant to secure the safety of Iraq, we'd put 750,000 U.S. soldiers in there, lose a hell of a lot more of them, and lock that shtein down. We'd send 300 guys at that safe house instead of a bomb. We'd act like men.
Bombing is terrorism. All bombing.
War Sucks....it is impossible to fight one without civilian casualties. I would imagine we have more civilian casualities in the US from the police dept's each year then we have in Iraq.
Quote from: Diomedes on June 08, 2006, 12:36:11 PM
If it meant lower risk of civilian casualty, yes that's what I would prefer. Except instead of your assinine ending, I'd prefer the Marines get him.
Honorable: Risking the lives of your soldiers to get the bad guys.
Honorable: Risking the lives of your soldiers to do so with as little risk as possible to civilians.
Not Honorable: Dropping 1000 lbs of bombs from 30,000 feet, and so what if anyone gets in the way.
If we really meant to secure the safety of Iraq, we'd put 750,000 U.S. soldiers in there, lose a hell of a lot more of them, and lock that shtein down. We'd send 300 guys at that safe house instead of a bomb. We'd act like men.
Bombing is terrorism. All bombing.
So wait...any technological advance in warfare is for sissy's? So when the Chinese invented gunpowder and used it to create a gun, they were just a bunch of girly-men? :-D
If we really meant to secure the safety of Iraq, we'd put 750,000 U.S. soldiers in there
there is a very easy answer behind this statment Dio--Im hoping you figure it out on your own
Turns out we were a bunch of torrorists in WWII the I guess. Those bombs weren't even guided...
Quote from: fansince61 on June 08, 2006, 12:44:05 PM
War Sucks....it is impossible to fight one without civilian casualties. I would imagine we have more civilian casualities in the US from the police dept's each year then we have in Iraq.
Not only that, but house to house fighting would have dramatically INCREASED civilian casualties.
Quote from: Phanatic on June 08, 2006, 12:48:44 PM
Turns out we were a bunch of torrorists in WWII the I guess. Those bombs weren't even guided...
WWII, far and away, holds the record for the most civilian casualities of all time :P
Quote from: fansince61 on June 08, 2006, 12:53:27 PM
Quote from: Phanatic on June 08, 2006, 12:48:44 PM
Turns out we were a bunch of terrorists in WWII the I guess. Those bombs weren't even guided...
WWII, far and away, holds the record for the most civilian causalities of all time :P
Yeah I think bombing major cities was an accepted part of warfare in that time. So with that said we have come a long way towards trying to do everything we can to limit civilian casualties. Our enemies don't play by the same rules.
Quote from: Butchers Bill on June 08, 2006, 12:45:20 PMSo wait...any technological advance in warfare is for sissy's?
Yeah, that's what I said. But he, thanks for reminding me that you aren't worth talking to...I forget easily. It's the optimist in me..maybe this time he won't act like an icehole.....oh..nope. Okay, moving along then.
Quote from: Phanatic on June 08, 2006, 12:48:44 PM
Turns out we were a bunch of torrorists in WWII the I guess. Those bombs weren't even guided...
Yep. Firebombs and nuclear bombs, conventional bombs. Nothing honorable about any of that. We should be ashamed by it and swear to ourselves to avoid it at all costs in the future.
Quote from: Phanatic on June 08, 2006, 12:55:56 PMSo with that said we have come a long way towards trying to do everything we can to limit civilian casualties. Our enemies don't play by the same rules.
Agreed, it's much better than it every has been. But that's no reason to stop trying to get better. And the fact that our enemies don't play by those rules is all the better reason to make sure we do. We are afterall claiming the moral high ground...even as we stoop the level of our enemies. Abu Graib, Haditha, "smart" bombs, running over civilians with humvees.
We'd be a lot more credible if we risked our necks more to save theirs.
We do risk our soldiers lives, by holding them to rules of engagement, and thanks for convicting the troops in Haditha before the investigation has finished. Our soldiers have rules, religious sensitvity training, and I am sure many other trainings along with that. Our military tries it's best to be as PC in everyway possible. In any conflict you will have civilian deaths. So lets say no bombs were used in that attack, and we went in with only ground troops, if we raid that house and good old Al has surrounded himself with civilians and a couple are killed or injured, what then? we are still killing innocent lives and our troops are at a higher risk then with using our technology. Should we just leave the bad guys alone as long as they are hiding in civilian areas?
The snake has grown a new head. (http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,,-5872681,00.html)
Abu Abdel-Rahman al-Iraqi takes over where Abu Musab al-Zarqawi left off.
Quoteal-Qaida in Iraq Vows to Continue Holy War
Thursday June 8, 2006 12:31 PM
CAIRO, Egypt (AP) - Al-Qaida in Iraq confirmed the death of its leader, Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, and vowed it will continue its ``holy war'' in a statement posted on the Web on Thursday.
``We want to give you the joyous news of the martyrdom of the mujahed sheik Abu Musab al-Zarqawi,'' said the statement, signed by ``Abu Abdel-Rahman al-Iraqi,'' identified as the deputy ``emir'' or leader of al-Qaida in Iraq.
``The death of our leaders is life for us. It will only increase our persistence in continuing holy war so that the word of God will be supreme,'' it said.
Good luck beating these guys by killing them.
QuoteWe'd send 300 guys at that safe house instead of a bomb. We'd act like men.
Could you please explain your idea on this one? because that says to me, forget the bombs and other technology, lets go in with guns only.
QuoteGood luck beating these guys by killing them.
Well what do you advise? leave them be? get out of Iraq? seriously, what is your plan to beat them.
Leave them be and get out of Iraq would be a fantastic start. Get out of Saudi Arabia and Egypt as well would be even better. Cherry on top: Stop supporting Israel--or at least show strictly equal support for both Palestine and Israel (for every F-16 Israel gets, give Palestine one. etc.) That would be my starting point.
From there, I'd go on to establish genuine dipmlomatic ties and make the first real attempt in the history of the U.S. middle east relations to deal fair and square in a civilized manner. No more supporting this coup or that regime, etc.
You asked.
Quote from: phillymic2000 on June 08, 2006, 01:41:34 PMCould you please explain your idea on this one? because that says to me, forget the bombs and other technology, lets go in with guns only.
Yep, that's about right. Bombs don't work. Flood the "safe house" with Marines and take it. Marines--recent current events nothwithstanding--are a hell of alot better at discerning a child from a "terrorist" than a bomb is. You'll lose more guys, but you'll also lose fewer civilians, and thereby fewer "hearts and minds."
The point is that you can't have your cake and eat it too. You want to win a war, but you don't want to spill you're own blood. You think it can be done with "smart" bombs and propaganda..and that's not what wins wars. People dying wins wars. People on both sides.
If the troop level in Iraq were 750,000, the people would be hella safer. There would be security in the streets. Well, there'd be a hell of a lot more than now. There would also be more U.S. deaths. But that's what it takes.
Iraq has no chance against the U.S. if the U.S. commits fully to the war. But we haven't and won't. Because the people of the U.S. don't want war, plain and simple. They don't want 20,000 of our soldiers dead. So instead we call the guys dropping bombs heros, ignore teh civilian casualtes we cause thereby, and by failing to secure the state, and go about our uber-privelaged lives.
Soldiers are there to die. That's their job. It's only by their deaths that any war is won. You can't win a war by not dying.
Jesus Christ, how do i get drawn into it with you people? farg it. I quit this thread.
Quote from: Diomedes on June 08, 2006, 01:52:35 PM
Leave them be and get out of Iraq would be a fantastic start. Get out of Saudi Arabia and Egypt as well would be even better. Cherry on top: Stop supporting Israel--or at least show strictly equal support for both Palestine and Israel (for every F-16 Israel gets, give Palestine one. etc.) That would be my starting point.
From there, I'd go on to establish genuine dipmlomatic ties and make the first real attempt in the history of the U.S. middle east relations to deal fair and square in a civilized manner. No more supporting this coup or that regime, etc.
You asked.
Ok, I just wanted to know your thoughts on how to get out. A couple of things, getting out of the entire middle east will only work for a while. They just don't want us out of the middle east, they want us to bow to their form of islam, to be like them. If we are not like them, it does not matter where we are they will come to convert or kill you, me and everyone else that is not like them. No diplomacy will work with these people. thank you for letting me know your thoughts on the matter.
QuoteSoldiers are there to die. That's their job. It's only by their deaths that any war is won. You can't win a war by not dying.
No, I do not think soldiers are there to die, they are there to fight, and win. If we lose less of our soldiers by using technology then that is a good thing. Besides if we swarmed every safehouse and city you would just post how many of our soldiers died in vain, but then that's what you say you want now.
QuoteThe point is that you can't have your cake and eat it too. You want to win a war, but you don't want to spill you're own blood. You think it can be done with "smart" bombs and propaganda..and that's not what wins wars. People dying wins wars. People on both sides.
We are dying Dio, our troops are being killed by IED's, and other ways everyday.
QuoteIf the troop level in Iraq were 750,000, the people would be hella safer. There would be security in the streets. Well, there'd be a hell of a lot more than now. There would also be more U.S. deaths. But that's what it takes.
I agree we needed more troops on the ground since the begining.
QuoteJesus Christ, how do i get drawn into it with you people? farg it. I quit this thread.
We can disagree, everyone has different views on things in this world.
Quote from: phillymic2000 on June 08, 2006, 02:05:50 PM
Quote from: Diomedes on June 08, 2006, 01:52:35 PM
Leave them be and get out of Iraq would be a fantastic start. Get out of Saudi Arabia and Egypt as well would be even better. Cherry on top: Stop supporting Israel--or at least show strictly equal support for both Palestine and Israel (for every F-16 Israel gets, give Palestine one. etc.) That would be my starting point.
From there, I'd go on to establish genuine dipmlomatic ties and make the first real attempt in the history of the U.S. middle east relations to deal fair and square in a civilized manner. No more supporting this coup or that regime, etc.
You asked.
Ok, I just wanted to know your thoughts on how to get out. A couple of things, getting out of the entire middle east will only work for a while. They just don't want us out of the middle east, they want us to bow to their form of islam, to be like them. If we are not like them, it does not matter where we are they will come to convert or kill you, me and everyone else that is not like them. No diplomacy will work with these people. thank you for letting me know your thoughts on the matter.
cept ur wrong.
reading up on the history of how the middle east percieved the west around the turn of the 20th century, b4 the world wars....many leaders...religious and political commented on how the west is the living embodiment of the Islamic ideals of democracy, freedom, and intellectualism....the west's structure is Islamic without the Muslims and they in return commented how thier own lands are Muslim without the Islam. why? because if people actually read into the ideas behind the sharia law and the similarities behind the constitution or the french revolution u will see they are not much different whatsoever. so what went wrong? imperialism...colonialism....and the way it affected the middle east. go rape the whole region, steal thier resources, leave them in the dumps, divide thier people and alliances up and make up countries based on maps and not people, continue supporting dictatorships when needed, claim to hold the moral ground, continue influencing the politics of hte region, keeping the Sauds in power....and you might get to the conclusion the reason they wanna destroy you and make you leave the region is because they havent recovered and want the UNITED STATES and its foreign policy gone. (read "Whats Right with Islam" for more on this).
the ugly by product of that is the terrorism we see today...the al qaeda...whose points resonate easily with the people who suffered thanks to our methods to better our already priveledged lives.
with all that said this man deserved the worst and got it. hope this helps somehow in bringing some stability in the region, but i doubt that. the bigger problem for the security of Iraq is the secretarian violence and the economic poverty which you cant just hope to eliminate by saying "ok now u have a democratic election so everything should be fixed".
Cherry on top: Stop supporting Israel--or at least show strictly equal support for both Palestine and Israel (for every F-16 Israel gets, give Palestine one. etc.) That would be my starting point.
not a chance we stop supporting Isreal: way too mauch history there going back to the Holocaust. Not to mention Israel is one of the most technologically advanced countries in the world. Several programs allow American companies and universities to benefit from Israel's expertise in agriculture and high technology. Israel was the first country to sign a free trade agreement with the US, which has resulted in a quintupling of trade between the two countries. we aint going nowhere
Quote from: Diomedes on June 08, 2006, 01:40:40 PM
The snake has grown a new head. (http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,,-5872681,00.html)
Abu Abdel-Rahman al-Iraqi takes over where Abu Musab al-Zarqawi left off.
Quoteal-Qaida in Iraq Vows to Continue Holy War
Thursday June 8, 2006 12:31 PM
CAIRO, Egypt (AP) - Al-Qaida in Iraq confirmed the death of its leader, Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, and vowed it will continue its ``holy war'' in a statement posted on the Web on Thursday.
``We want to give you the joyous news of the martyrdom of the mujahed sheik Abu Musab al-Zarqawi,'' said the statement, signed by ``Abu Abdel-Rahman al-Iraqi,'' identified as the deputy ``emir'' or leader of al-Qaida in Iraq.
``The death of our leaders is life for us. It will only increase our persistence in continuing holy war so that the word of God will be supreme,'' it said.
Good luck beating these guys by killing them.
Unlikely, since according to this story by AP in the updated Philly.com, HE was also killed:
Al-Zarqawi and several aides, including spiritual adviser Sheik Abdul Rahman, were killed Wednesday evening in a remote area 30 miles from Baghdad in the volatile province of Diyala, just east of the provincial capital of Baqouba, officials said.
Quote from: Magical_Retard on June 08, 2006, 02:25:00 PM
Quote from: phillymic2000 on June 08, 2006, 02:05:50 PM
Ok, I just wanted to know your thoughts on how to get out. A couple of things, getting out of the entire middle east will only work for a while. They just don't want us out of the middle east, they want us to bow to their form of islam, to be like them. If we are not like them, it does not matter where we are they will come to convert or kill you, me and everyone else that is not like them. No diplomacy will work with these people. thank you for letting me know your thoughts on the matter.
cept ur wrong.
reading up on the history of how the middle east percieved the west around the turn of the 20th century, b4 the world wars....many leaders...religious and political commented on how the west is the living embodiment of the Islamic ideals of democracy, freedom, and intellectualism....the west's structure is Islamic without the Muslims and they in return commented how thier own lands are Muslim without the Islam. why? because if people actually read into the ideas behind the sharia law and the similarities behind the constitution or the french revolution u will see they are not much different whatsoever. so what went wrong? imperialism...colonialism....and the way it affected the middle east. go rape the whole region, steal thier resources, leave them in the dumps, divide thier people and alliances up and make up countries based on maps and not people, continue supporting dictatorships when needed, claim to hold the moral ground, continue influencing the politics of hte region, keeping the Sauds in power....and you might get to the conclusion the reason they wanna destroy you and make you leave the region is because they havent recovered and want the UNITED STATES and its foreign policy gone. (read "Whats Right with Islam" for more on this).
the ugly by product of that is the terrorism we see today...the al qaeda...whose points resonate easily with the people who suffered thanks to our methods to better our already priveledged lives.
with all that said this man deserved the worst and got it. hope this helps somehow in bringing some stability in the region, but i doubt that. the bigger problem for the security of Iraq is the secretarian violence and the economic poverty which you cant just hope to eliminate by saying "ok now u have a democratic election so everything should be fixed".
Excellent post 'Tard.
Phillymic, you are an ignorant ass if you think the entire Muslim world wants us converted and to "bow down" to them. You are even more of an ass if you can't differentiate between your average Muslim and an extremist.
Wow. People care about this stuff a lot more than I do.
Quote from: rjs246 on June 08, 2006, 03:01:43 PM
Wow. People care about this stuff a lot more than I do.
Infidel.
"terror"ist
"smart" bomb
see how tricky the us is...they so easily brainwash the sheep in this country
QuotePhillymic, you are an ignorant ass if you think the entire Muslim world wants us converted and to "bow down" to them. You are even more of an ass if you can't differentiate between your average Muslim and an extremist.
Give me a break, I relize the entire muslim world does not want us dead, if that was the case the millions of Muslims in this country would be rioting and killing us. I am talking about the radical muslims, Taliban etc... they are using terrorism to spread fear and kill innocent lives to push their way of life. Those are the ones Mag. Retard that will stop at nothing to kill us if we are over there or not. To use Afganistan as an example the Taliban ran that country through fear and murder, it was not a majority of radical muslims, but the few ran the show. this form of radical Islam calls for infidel's to convert or be killed, and to them it is right and just to do this, call me what you want, but the radicals will not stop if we leave the middle east.
wowwe wowwe whoooo...this thread is going through the roof!
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 08, 2006, 03:16:33 PM
"terror"ist
"smart" bomb
see how tricky the us is...they so easily brainwash the sheep in this country
I love you tards like you call everyone who disagrees with you "sheep". ::)
i didnt call anyone sheep
i called the sheep....sheep
sheepfargers
Chicken farger!
chicken sallad!
"Boys, I may not know much, but I know the difference between chicken shtein and chicken salad." - Lyndon B. Johnson
Help you two?
Do you have any white bread ma'am?
Yeah.
I'll have some toasted white bread please.
You want butter or jam on that, honey?
No ma'am, dry.
Do you have any fried chicken ma'am?
Best damned chicken in the state.
Bring me four fried chickens and a Coke.
You want chicken wings or chicken legs?
Four fried chickens and a Coke.
And some dry white toast please.
Ya'all want anything to drink with that?
No ma'am.
A Coke.
Be right back.
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It puts the sheep hoves into the boots...
Quote from: rjs246 on June 08, 2006, 04:58:29 PM
Chicken farger!
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Quote from: phillymic2000 on June 08, 2006, 03:18:21 PM
QuotePhillymic, you are an ignorant ass if you think the entire Muslim world wants us converted and to "bow down" to them. You are even more of an ass if you can't differentiate between your average Muslim and an extremist.
Give me a break, I relize the entire muslim world does not want us dead, if that was the case the millions of Muslims in this country would be rioting and killing us. I am talking about the radical muslims, Taliban etc... they are using terrorism to spread fear and kill innocent lives to push their way of life. Those are the ones Mag. Retard that will stop at nothing to kill us if we are over there or not. To use Afganistan as an example the Taliban ran that country through fear and murder, it was not a majority of radical muslims, but the few ran the show. this form of radical Islam calls for infidel's to convert or be killed, and to them it is right and just to do this, call me what you want, but the radicals will not stop if we leave the middle east.
thats my point...they want us dead because we effed thier whole ppl for a good century plus....u think anyone would have listened to nuts like osama or other terrorists had they no one to recruit...no real message to sell? the taliban was no threat to us cept they were hiding Osama in Afghanistan.....they deserve to be removed and killed I agree but dont confuse then with Al Qaeda. 2ndly if we did somehow reverse our foreign police, which we would never do ....i mean we gotta build more McDonalds over there and take more resources.....till they run out of resources and we leave them like we did many nations after we were done needing them.....SO IF we ever could reverse what we have done and actually help the region with no hidden motive to better ourselves in reality (operation liberation my ass) then we can continue eliminating one terrorist after another and keep waiting for the next in line to pop up.
i guess this way we get the pleasure of listening to Ann Coulter more.
Quote2ndly if we did somehow reverse our foreign police, which we would never do ....
Yep, I do not see any politician, Dem or Repub changing our policy, we are to tied to oil, and Isreal. And even if we did change our policy, I honestly don't think the radicals would believe us.
yep...thats our shtein on the floor and now we have to lay in it
just thank god we are in north america...otherwise wed be gettin attacked on our own soil on the regular
BAGHDAD, Iraq -- Terrorist leader Abu Musab al-Zarqawi was still alive when Iraqi police arrived at a site that was bombed by U.S. forces, a top-level spokesman for American military forces said Friday.
Brig Gen. Bill Caldwell, briefing military reporters at the Pentagon from his post in Baghdad, said he learned that al-Zarqawi was alive after the general was briefed on the military operation that netted al-Zarqawi and several others.
"He mumbled something but it was indistinguishable and it was very short," Caldwell said.
Caldwell said that al-Zarqawi made an attempt to turn away from the stretcher on which he had been placed, the soldiers secured him to the stretcher and then he died shortly after from the bombing wounds.
"He mumbled something but it was indistinguishable and it was very short," Caldwell said.
"I $htein my pants....I $htein my pants..."
(http://dunamai.com/Humor/BagdadBob/images/bagdad_bob_large.gif)
"Oh shtein...no farging virgins for me."
"But you farg one sheep....."
I really haven't got much of an opportunity to see much of this since I have had CQ duty for the last 24hrs. This was a big victory make no mistake, however it is not going to have much bearing on the current situation overthere.
As far as previous posts go I don't know exactly how it is overthere since I have never been, but I can go off my training and what I here from men who have, and we do the best we can as far as trying to keep civilians out of harms way. The atrocities that happen in Iraq are unacceptable, but also inevitable in a time of war, this of course does not meant that I am condoning those actions.
I would also like to congratulate and thank my fellow service members on a job well done. :yay Keep up the good work.
I think it's great that he wasn't killed instantly, but had time to sit there and think about how the other people with him were all dead because of his actions, and I think it's great that he saw the US Military show up and he tried to get away but was just too injured. I think it's great that his demise didn't come instantly, and he had a few minutes to reflect on exactly who he was, and that he knew he was dying by our hand.
Although I seriously doubt it, I hope he realized what an ass he was and what a wasted life he lived. I only wish he could have lived a few hours longer while under US custody to get to stare at the flag on the US military uniforms, and realize that in the end game, he's nothing but a corpse.
Burn, farger.
Quote from: DemonchildrenOnTurf on June 09, 2006, 02:50:50 PM
I think it's great that he wasn't killed instantly, but had time to sit there and think about how the other people with him were all dead because of his actions, and I think it's great that he saw the US Military show up and he tried to get away but was just too injured. I think it's great that his demise didn't come instantly, and he had a few minutes to reflect on exactly who he was, and that he knew he was dying by our hand.
Although I seriously doubt it, I hope he realized what an ass he was and what a wasted life he lived. I only wish he could have lived a few hours longer while under US custody to get to stare at the flag on the US military uniforms, and realize that in the end game, he's nothing but a corpse.
Burn, farger.
I nominate this for Post of the Year :yay :yay :yay
that is some good stuff there
:cfhead :cfhead :cfhead :cfhead :cfhead
some interesting events:
Iraq Announces Info From Al-Zarqawi Raid (http://apnews.myway.com/article/20060615/D8I8JAC80.html)
QuoteIraq's national security adviser said Thursday a "huge treasure" of documents and computer records was seized after the raid on terror leader Abu Musab al-Zarqawi's hideout, giving the Iraqi government the upper hand in its fight against al-Qaida in Iraq.
Post-al-Zarqawi Raids Kill 104 Insurgents (http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/I/IRAQ_RAIDS?SITE=7219&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2006-06-15-08-25-20)
america, fug yea, coming to save the muthafuggin day yea!
Documents: Al-Qaida Sought U.S.-Iran War
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20060615/D8I8NEB80.html