2011 Philadelphia Phillies Season Thread (choking awful pos team, DIAF)

[PhillyGirl]

didn't he pitch well in his other outing in this series?

[MDS]

sept 21....1er, 2h, 1ip
sept 25....3er, 3h, 2bb .1ip
sept 27....1ip
oct 2.....1bb, 0.2ip
oct 4.....0.1ip

hes getting there but he aint there yet. notice how manuel is using him in really specific roles in this series? like hes not getting the 8th or 7th to himself. charlie is doing it by the matchup.

[Rome]

What a great win last night.

[ice grillin you]

I thought ODB was fine tonight? He got his guy out, no?

thats kind of the point....hes a loogy not an 8th inning shut down guy as he looked earlier this year

[PhillyGirl]

Except since he had that talk with Baez and changed up things, he's been more of the first half of the season pitcher than the last stretch of the season pitcher.

[SunMo]

yeah, i would've given tony b another batter instead of going right to lidge.

the book is known on lidge, spit on the fastball, look slider, if he can't get the slider over then you can walk.

[ice grillin you]

Except since he had that talk with Baez and changed up things, he's been more of the first half of the season pitcher than the last stretch of the season pitcher.

hes faced three meaningful batters since the baez talk...im not ready to annoint him lock down again...but my main point is that hes still only facing a batter or two at a time....hes not pitching full innings

[PhillyGirl]

Except since he had that talk with Baez and changed up things, he's been more of the first half of the season pitcher than the last stretch of the season pitcher.

hes faced three meaningful batters since the baez talk...im not ready to annoint him lock down again...but my main point is that hes still only facing a batter or two at a time....hes not pitching full innings

I'm not either, but until he blows it, I'm not willing to write him off as unusable.

[ice grillin you]

oh you cant write him off...hes all they got outside of madson...plus its not like the four aces are going 8 or 9 every game like everyone thought...two of their three starts havent made it past the 6th

[phillycrew]

http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/phillies/20111004_Deja_two__Key_doubleplay_a_throwback.html

As it turns out, the Matt Stairs parallels go beyond Ben Francisco's pinch-hit home run. Because the same night Stairs hit his home run in the NLCS at Dodger Stadium in 2008, Chase Utley also pulled off a spectacular, run-saving doubleplay. It was just as he did Tuesday night in the Phillies' 3-2 win over the Cardinals.

Then as now, Ryan Madson was the pitcher.

Then as now, Rafael Furcal was the runner who was out at second base.

Then as now, Utley saved a precarious situation with his glove.

Grit just being Grit.  Hamels is the man.  I think the players really respond to the confidence Charlie has in them.  Who would have thought that Charlie out coached living legend Larussa.

[phillymic2000]

ZwR:

To eff with LaRussa further, Phils should go Wide 9 next game and play every defender on the foul line

[phillymic2000]

http://espn.go.com/mlb/playoffs/2011/story/_/id/7060890/cardinals-waste-chances-game-3

Cry me the mississippi you big baby. Maybe the architects should have thought of that when building it. Plus the opposing teams deal withthe same shadows. 

[ice grillin you]

the irony is that the guy complaining had four hits....how really tough were the shadows?

[Rome]

Pujols is such a funhole.

[PhillyGirl]

I guess those shadows were only affecting the Cards? It is their homefield, farg them.