2008 Philadelphia Phillies Season/Playoff Thread (Die Mets Die)

[SunMo]

swinging and missing a lot

[PhillyPhreak54]

Should they trade him?

[SunMo]

only if they can get a corey lidle type

[PhillyPhreak54]

Helluva pilot, that guy.

Maybe Bronson Arroyo or Gil Meche would work?

[Geowhizzer]

The farg is up with Utley?

Seems to be studying at the Ryan Howard Hitting Academy.

[PhillyGirl]

Oh wow...the Phils follow up a great stretch with a semi-slump and the world is in complete craziness and they won't make the playoffs now?

[ice grillin you]

show one example of someone getting "crazy"

show one example of someone saying they wouldnt make the playoffs


your one post is way nuttier and off the handle than all the other posts combined

[LBIggle]

who cares if they make the playoffs.  they did that last year. 

[Geowhizzer]

who cares if they make the playoffs.  they did that last year. 

Well, that was a lot better than the previous 14 years.

[ice grillin you]

who cares if they make the playoffs.  they did that last year. 

Well, that was a lot better than the previous 14 years.

and it was awesome...but now its time to win a championship

[Geowhizzer]

who cares if they make the playoffs.  they did that last year. 

Well, that was a lot better than the previous 14 years.

and it was awesome...but now its time to win a championship

Isn't happening, not without another starting pitcher.

[ice grillin you]

agree

[PhillyPhreak54]

Stark:

Phretting in Philly: With the help of a number of clubs that have spoken with the Phillies, we've assembled this shopping list of starting pitchers it appears they've at least kicked tires on: Sabathia, A.J. Burnett, Bronson Arroyo and (surprisingly) Jarrod Washburn. Bedard just hit the market, so you can add his name any minute now.

But those same clubs say the Phillies might have the hardest decisions to make of just about any team with win-the-World Series upside. If they go for it now -- and decimate their still-thin system to deal for a big-name rent-a-pitcher like Sabathia or Burnett -- this might be the only year they'd be capable of contending.

To make a trade like that, they'd probably have to give up both of their two most advanced starting-pitching prospects, Carlos Carrasco and Antonio basticho. So if they lose Brad Lidge and their rent-a-starter to free agency, and Jamie Moyer retires, Brett Myers doesn't rebound and Adam Eaton's first half turns out to be a mirage, the Phillies' pitching staff next year would essentially consist of Cole Hamels, Kyle Kendrick, J.C. Romero, Ryan Madson, an uncertain Myers and seven question marks.

"So that's a tough call," said one NL executive. "Do you say, 'Go for it, and the hell with next year'? Or do you think big picture, but maybe not have enough [pitching] to win this year? It's a scary choice to have to make."

I also read that he said they inquired about Ryan Freel too.

He would be an ideal guy to have on the bench.

Burnett is nothing special and gets hurt a lot.

Arroyo is not really better than what they already have

Washburn is no good

CC is the only one I would want (no shtein?)

[MDS]

Sabathia is the only one who would make a difference.

The franchise is going down the tubes when Amaro takes over next year anyway, might as well go out swinging.

[reese125]

nobody will say shtein if they win a world championship. I think everyone is just a little tired of the "stay competitive for years to come" concept. That goes for all Philly sports. Its about time just one of these friggin sports teams goes for broke. I cant see why these gm's dont see whats going on around them

You think anyone is going to care that that much if the Celtics are mediocre next year, or the Patriots dont make the playoffs, or the Red Sox etc. Though the chances are probably slim, still in the end its all about the trophy and if you hold one people can cope with a lost season/s--then you rebound