War with Iran

[phillymic2000]

Witnesses say a flood of people are crossing into Gaza from Egypt after Palestinians blew a hole in a border wall at the Gaza-Egypt border, The Associated Press reports.

And "someone" said the missiles Hezbollah are firing were made in Iran, so CNN reported it.

This isn't ending soon.

Man that is not good.

[Phanatic]

Hezbolah(spelling) joined the Lebanese government recently. They crossed Israel's boarder and snatched some soldiers. In Israel's thinking the Lebanese governent just conducted a boarder raid.

I think that would be equivalent to Cuba sending troops into Florida to capture a few soldiers. Whether you agree with it or not the US would go apeshtein and most likely attack Cuba.

This is how Israel views this issue right or wrong. Hezbolah is a terrorist organization that no one backs outside of Syria and Iran. It will be interesting to see how this plays out. Many Israelites have died over the years at the hands of Hezbolah. They are not going to see things clearly or be nice and diplomatic about anything in that regard. What will the world community do when Israel does not listen to demands like Iran and North Korea? Will Russian and China rule against sanctions like they did against Iran and North Korea or will they just go for the old unified statement?

Not commenting either way on this one. Just making observations...

[Diomedes]

http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/07/14/mideast/index.html

Despite several countries -- including the United States and Lebanon -- contending that Lebanon doesn't have the capacity to extend its authority into Hezbollah-held territory, Israel has blamed the Lebanese government for the violence and charged it with the safe release of the soldiers.

Hezbollah, which enjoys substantial backing from Syria and Iran, is considered a terrorist organization by the United States and Israel. The group holds 23 of the 128 seats in Lebanon's parliament.

So let's get this straight:  Israel's daddy, the U.S., has asserted that the Lebabese government cannot control Hezbollah.  Moreover, Lebanon itself admits this embarrasment to be accurate.  Hezbollah has less than 20% of the Lebanese parliament.

So it's clear:  the bad guys are not the people, they aren't the government, and the government can't stop them.  But Israel doesn't care.  Their idea of an appropriate way to deal with this situation is war. 

I really think Israel should be abandonded.  They are no better than the "terrorists."

[Phanatic]

Yes Israel does not agree with that assessment on Lebanon. They apply the same outlook towards Palestein's newly elected government. That is why they are attacking both sides at the moment.

[phillymic2000]

I really think Israel should be abandonded.  They are no better than the "terrorists."

[ice grillin you]

Gaza Border Wall Breached By Explosion

JERUSALEM -- A suspected bomb has breached the border wall separating Gaza from Egypt, allowing hundreds to pour through.

The border has largely been closed since June 25, when Palestinian militants carried out a cross-border raid on a military outpost, killing two Israeli soldiers and capturing one.

Hundreds of people have been stranded on the Egyptian side of the border, unable to get to their homes in Gaza.

As almost a quarter-million Israelis hide in bomb shelters, more Hezbollah rockets slammed into northern Israel early Friday.

Hezbollah is blamed for firing more than 200 such rockets from Lebanon in the last two days.

Those attacks come as Israel continues pounding Lebanon, after guerrillas crossed the border to capture two soldiers.

Three days of fighting have killed more than 60 people in Lebanon and 10 in Israel.

Israel is continuing efforts to isolate the Lebanese from the outside world. Its military jets have again struck the Beirut airport, along with a main highway. Warships continue to blockade the port.

Witnesses said Israeli aircraft struck targets in south Beirut where Hezbollah, the militant Shiite faction, is headquartered.

CNN reported Friday that remains of at least one long-range rocket that landed in Haifa led Israelis to believe it was made in Iran.

U.S. Vetoes Gaza Pullout

Standing alone among the 15 members of the U.N. Security Council, the United States voted against a resolution demanding Israel immediately leave Gaza.

It's the first time in almost two years that the United States has used its veto power. Ten other countries voted for the Arab-backed resolution, while four abstained.

Qatar sponsored the measure, which accuses Israel of a "disproportionate use of force" endangering Palestinian civilians.

Israeli forces went into Gaza late last month after Hamas militants crossed the border and abducted a soldier.

After complaints of bias, wording was added to the resolution calling for the soldier's release and urging Palestinians to stop firing rockets at Israel.

[ice grillin you]

Israeli Ground Forces Enter Lebanon To Attack Hezbollah

[phillymic2000]

Israeli Ground Forces Enter Lebanon To Attack Hezbollah

I've heard some rumors of that, but cannot find anything that confirms, this story 15 mins. ago is claiming no ground offensive yet, Although everyone knows it is coming.http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/07/17/mideast/index.html

[ice grillin you]

that was from a story this morning saying that they launched a ground offensive in southern lebanon...it has since changed to this....


http://www.nbc10.com/tu/5hrCJpfAu.html

[phillymic2000]

Yeah they were saying that they went in this morning on the radio and then I saw the same style report on CNN. thanks.

[MURP]

Iran's Hizbollah says ready to attack US, Israel

[phillymic2000]

http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/07/18/stranded.family/index.html

I want us to get all our people out, but this is overboard. First The state department puts out warnings on where you should not go: http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/tw/tw_1764.html

Lebanon has been on the list all the way back to 2004: http://www.globalcareernews.com/publish/article_4.shtml

So they go somewhere that the government says not to go, and now they want the government to bail them out right now. The US has been moving ships up from the red sea to protect any kind of removal of citizens, cause they know that hezbollah would love to kill them some americans to pull us into this and make it as messy as possible. This stunt by CNN makes me sick.

[Diomedes]

Agreed on all but the '''Hezbollah would love to kill them some americans..."  They may well want to, but they don't want to bad enough to actually do it.  As we see, there are 25,000 Americans there, none of whom have been attacked.  That's not because Hezbollah is weak, or because Americans are so protected.  It's because Hezbollah does not currently wish to directly provoke the U.S.

The people in this story need to shut up.  The fargin' cavalry is comin' and NO ONE is targeting them in this current battle.  They are being avoided at targets.  Talk to the Iraqis about living in terror of war.  Talk to the people of Darfur.  Talk to the gay football players.  These people know terror.

[phillymic2000]

Your right Dio on that point, 25k people and no attacks, it makes sense.

Breaking news on CNN (TV): IDF reports troops in South lebanon

http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/07/18/mideast/index.html

[MURP]

Iran says it won't halt atomic work