Man made global warming is real.

Started by Diomedes, January 23, 2007, 11:37:52 AM

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MadMarchHare

Quote from: Susquehanna Birder on February 26, 2007, 07:07:03 PM
Is that what fuels his private jet?

Duh.  The engine captures all the friction from the turbines, and uses it to fuel the plane.  It's a hybrid-jet.
Anyone but Reid.

SD_Eagle5


Susquehanna Birder


Diomedes

There is considerable overlap between the intelligence of the smartest bears and the dumbest tourists." - Yosemite Park Ranger

Diomedes

#424
I'd like to see some corroboration of this beyond a "non-partisan" website and "think" tank that Drudge trumpets at just the right time.  I'd also like to see what comparable estates spend, how much energy comparably wealthy people use, etc.  Furthermore, I'd also like to see if anyone has investigated whether or not Gore is doing something to reduce his carbon "footprint."

Until I see that, I'm not much interested in what these people have to say.

edit:  they certainly don't link in a non-partisan way:
QuoteCato Institute     Washington, DC
Competitive Enterprise Institute    Washington, DC
Heartland Institute    Chicago, IL
Heritage Foundation    Washington, DC
Independent Institute    Oakland. CA
Manhattan Institute    New York, NY
National Center for Policy Analysis    Dallas, TX and Washington, DC
Reason Foundation    Los Angeles, CA
plenty of neo cons there, not a liberal in sight
There is considerable overlap between the intelligence of the smartest bears and the dumbest tourists." - Yosemite Park Ranger

PoopyfaceMcGee


phillymic2000

Quote from: Cerevant on February 26, 2007, 06:13:44 AM
Quote from: phillymic2000 on February 26, 2007, 12:37:35 AMNow I never heard him say a word about Global warming when he was the VP in office, or any other time until he ran against GW.

Just because you don't remember it, it doesn't mean it didn't happen.

Quote from: phillymic2000 on February 26, 2007, 12:37:35 AM
just reminds me of the inventing the internet stuff.

Just because you remember it, doesn't mean it happened.

I stand, well sit corrected, except that whole internet thing is kind of fishy.

Munson

Quote from: ice grillin you on April 01, 2008, 05:10:48 PM
perhaps you could explain sd's reasons for "disliking" it as well since you seem to be so in tune with other peoples minds

Diomedes

following up on FF's best efforts to advance the conservative hit job on Gore for his electric bill:

http://www.tennessean.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070226/NEWS01/70226055

QuoteGore gets heat for his electric bills
Staff says he uses compact fluorescent bulbs

By ANNE PAINE
Staff Writer

A day after receiving Oscar glory for a documentary on global warming, former Vice President Al Gore was called a hypocrite by a Tennessee group saying his Belle Meade home is using too much energy.

The home's average month electric bill topped $1,359, according to the group.

"As the spokesman of choice for the global warming movement, Al Gore has to be willing to walk (the) walk, not just talk the talk, when it comes to home energy use," said Drew Johnson, president of the Tennessee Center for Policy Research.

Electric bills obtained by The Tennessean, however, showed that Gore is paying a premium on his bills to be part of the "green power" program. Gore purchased 108 blocks of "green power" for at least each of the last three months, according to a summary of bills from Nashville Electric Service.

That's a total of $432 a month spent to pay extra for solar or other renewable energy sources. NES power – outside this program - is derived largely from coal, which emits carbon, a green house gas.

The green power purchased by Gore in those three months is equivalent to recycling 2.48 million aluminum cans, or recycling 286,092 pounds of newspaper, according to comparison figures on the utility's Web site.

Gore's movie details how greenhouse gases are trapping heat next to the earth, causing a changing climate with melting ice caps and more violent storms.

"Every family has a different carbon footprint," said Kalee Krider, a spokeswoman for Gore.

The Gore's 10,000 square foot house on Lynnwood Boulevard doesn't have a small one.

The Green Power Switch program, however, isn't all he and his wife, Tipper, are doing, Krider said.

They use compact fluourescent lights and are in the midst of a renovation project that includes having solar panels installed on their home to reduce fossil fuel consumption more, she said.

Their car? A Lexus hybrid SUV.


They put money into an investment company that Gore co-founded with a man named David Blood and it, in turn, sends the money to pay for solar, wind and other projects that reduce energy consumption around the globe.

The "non-partisan" site Drudge and FF like so much needs to hire better researchers.
There is considerable overlap between the intelligence of the smartest bears and the dumbest tourists." - Yosemite Park Ranger

PoopyfaceMcGee

I honestly don't understand the non-stop defending of this.  Gore lives an extravagant life-style.  He could easily "make do" with 3000 sq ft and drive a Prius or the ilk instead of a Lexus hybrid SUV (which still uses as much gas as a regular mid-size car).  Naturally, he's going to be doing some things in his lifestyle that are "green", since he's remained in the public eye and needs to be able to point to some attempts at it. 

The fact of the matter is that if every family in the U.S. consumed the amount of energy the Gores do, we'd be in a lot worse shape than we are now.

rjs246

Dude, this planet is farged anyway. It's all well and good that people are making miniscule attempts to change their ways but believe this, we are too far gone. Just nuke the middle east or the whales, buy two SUV's, leave your lights on when you leave the house and enjoy your life. There's nothing you can do at this point.
Is rjs gonna have to choke a bitch?

Let them eat bootstraps.

Geowhizzer

Speaking of which, hybrid MPG is not as good as first advertised:

EPA decides to get real on gas mileage

New fuel-economy ratings drop cars' mpg

They're still well above the "normal" car, but 50-60 mpg on these cars is still a pipe dream.


PoopyfaceMcGee

Quote from: rjs246 on February 27, 2007, 11:23:32 AM
Dude, this planet is farged anyway. It's all well and good that people are making miniscule attempts to change their ways but believe this, we are too far gone. Just nuke the middle east or the whales, buy two SUV's, leave your lights on when you leave the house and enjoy your life. There's nothing you can do at this point.

You may be right, but that's not what the patron saint of global warming says.

Diomedes

Quote from: FFatPatt on February 27, 2007, 11:18:50 AMThe fact of the matter is that if every family in the U.S. consumed the amount of energy made the same attempts to be "green" as the Gores do, we'd be in a lot worse better shape than we are now.

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There is considerable overlap between the intelligence of the smartest bears and the dumbest tourists." - Yosemite Park Ranger

Diomedes

Quote from: Geowhizzer on February 27, 2007, 11:27:53 AM
Speaking of which, hybrid MPG is not as good as first advertised:

EPA decides to get real on gas mileage

New fuel-economy ratings drop cars' mpg

They're still well above the "normal" car, but 50-60 mpg on these cars is still a pipe dream.

A pipe dream worth shooting for.  Also, they emit a lot less pollution, so there's that.
There is considerable overlap between the intelligence of the smartest bears and the dumbest tourists." - Yosemite Park Ranger