Jim Johnson needs to go...

Started by Wingspan, October 16, 2006, 12:40:05 PM

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Wingspan

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Quote from: Wingspan on October 17, 2006, 01:46:05 PM

Lack of TOP being the fault of the offense is a myth...

Houston Game
Eagles - 32:51
Texans - 27:09
4 Longest Sustained Drives
8:56   PHI - 16 Plays (end game after 11 play houston drive)
6:16   HOU 10 Plays (opening drive)
5:54   PHI 13 Plays (after houston 3-and-out)
5:10   HOU 7 Plays (after 7 play eagle TD drive)

Giants Game
Giants 46:13
Eagles 28:45
4 Longes Sustained Drives
9:55   NYG 13 Plays (after eagle 3-and-out in OT /end game)
5:19   NYG 9 Plays (after 5 play eagle drive)
4:26   PHI 11 Plays (1st drive of game)
4:11   PHI 7 Plays (1st drive of 2nd half)

San Fran Game
Eagles 24:39
49ers 35:21
4 Longest
6:16   SF 11 Plays (after an 8 play eagle drive)
5:50   SF 10 plays (after eagle 3-and-out)
5:08   SF 16 plays (after eagle 3-and-out 2 minutes)
4:40   PHI 8 plays (after SF 3-and-out)

Packer Game
Packers 32:43
Eagles 27:17
4 Longest
6:39   PHI 15 Plays (opening 2nd half)
4:53   GB 10 Plays (after eagle 6 play drive w/ fumble inside the 10)
4:09   GB 10 plays (after eagle 3-and-out)
4:04   GB 8 plays (after eagle TD, which was immediately after the buckhalter fumble, then green bay fumble)

Dallas Game
Cowboys 36:59
Eagles 23:01
4 longest
5:43   DAL 12 plays (after eagle fumble/5 play drive)
5:40   DAL 10 plays (after eagle TD, immediately following a 1 play dallas drive in which they fumbled)
4:10   DAL 12 plays (after eagle 5 play drive)
3:53   DAL 11 plays (after eagle 3 and out)

Saints Game
Eagles - 25:57
Saints -34:03
4 longest
8:26   NO 16 plays (after 8 play/4 minute eagle drive)
5:56   NO 11 plays (opening drive)
4:49   NO 9 plays (after eagle 6 play drive/4 minutes)
4:49   PHI 11 plays (after saints 3-and-out)

Bucs Game
Eagles - 28:59
Bucs -31:01
4 longest
7:58   TB 14 plays (opening of 2nd half)
5:51   TB 11 plays (after eagle 7 play TD drive)
5:33   TB 11 plays (after eagle 7)
4:39   PHI 8 plays (opening drive)

The Defense has forced, 22 3-and-outs this season, and they have produced a turnover on the opening sequence of plays in a drive 5 times. (total 27 "quick opponent drives) to which the eagles offense came on the field and got at least 1 first down or scored immediately 20 times. thats a pretty high % - 74%

the offense is giving the defense time to rest, the defense has just been horrible. Even on the quick scores, you have the extra point, 2 commercial breaks, and the kickoff in between.

the eagles offense has only gone 3-and-out 18 times. they've turned it over in less than 3 plays once.

Edit...#s updated


i'd like to point out that tampa went 3 and out 0 times in the 2nd half of the game. the eagles only went a true three and out twice.

tampa had the 3 longest drives in the game...2 in the 2nd half, one that started the second half. 3 of 4 drives in the 2nd half led to TB points.

not discounting mcnabbs terrible play for over half the game. but this defense is the most undisiplined, and most unclutch than i can remember in the past 8 years.

this defense can not stop anyone when it really matters.

on three losses this season, the defense has given up:
a 20 second, 20 yard losing drive
a 8 minute, 70 yard losing drive
a 9 minute, 80 yard losing drive

in 19 4th quarter/OT drives, the opponents gone 3-and-out 1 and scored 8 times
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PoopyfaceMcGee

Quote from: Wingspan on October 24, 2006, 12:23:45 PM
this defense can not stop anyone when it really matters.

That's all that needs to be said.

Father Demon

Quote from: Wingspan on October 24, 2006, 12:23:45 PM
in 19 4th quarter/OT drives, the opponents gone 3-and-out 1 and scored 8 times

That is pathetic.
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Wingspan

Houston Game
Eagles - 32:51
Texans - 27:09
4 Longest Sustained Drives
8:56   PHI - 16 Plays (end game after 11 play houston drive)
6:16   HOU 10 Plays (opening drive)
5:54   PHI 13 Plays (after houston 3-and-out)
5:10   HOU 7 Plays (after 7 play eagle TD drive)

Giants Game
Giants 46:13
Eagles 28:45
4 Longes Sustained Drives
9:55   NYG 13 Plays (after eagle 3-and-out in OT /end game)
5:19   NYG 9 Plays (after 5 play eagle drive)
4:26   PHI 11 Plays (1st drive of game)
4:11   PHI 7 Plays (1st drive of 2nd half)

San Fran Game
Eagles 24:39
49ers 35:21
4 Longest
6:16   SF 11 Plays (after an 8 play eagle drive)
5:50   SF 10 plays (after eagle 3-and-out)
5:08   SF 16 plays (after eagle 3-and-out 2 minutes)
4:40   PHI 8 plays (after SF 3-and-out)

Packer Game
Packers 32:43
Eagles 27:17
4 Longest
6:39   PHI 15 Plays (opening 2nd half)
4:53   GB 10 Plays (after eagle 6 play drive w/ fumble inside the 10)
4:09   GB 10 plays (after eagle 3-and-out)
4:04   GB 8 plays (after eagle TD, which was immediately after the buckhalter fumble, then green bay fumble)

Dallas Game
Cowboys 36:59
Eagles 23:01
4 longest
5:43   DAL 12 plays (after eagle fumble/5 play drive)
5:40   DAL 10 plays (after eagle TD, immediately following a 1 play dallas drive in which they fumbled)
4:10   DAL 12 plays (after eagle 5 play drive)
3:53   DAL 11 plays (after eagle 3 and out)

Saints Game
Eagles - 25:57
Saints -34:03
4 longest
8:26   NO 16 plays (after 8 play/4 minute eagle drive)
5:56   NO 11 plays (opening drive)
4:49   NO 9 plays (after eagle 6 play drive/4 minutes)
4:49   PHI 11 plays (after saints 3-and-out)

Bucs Game
Eagles - 28:59
Bucs -31:01
4 longest
7:58   TB 14 plays (opening of 2nd half)
5:51   TB 11 plays (after eagle 7 play TD drive)
5:33   TB 11 plays (after eagle 7)
4:39   PHI 8 plays (opening drive)

Jags Game
Eagles - 23:09
Jags -36:51
4 longest
6:35   JAC 11 plays (after eagle 13 play drive)
5:35   PHI 11 plays (after jac 7 play drive)
5:08   JAC 9 plays (after eagle 3 and out)
4:54   PHI 13 plays (after jags shortest drive of the day)

The Defense has forced, 22 3-and-outs this season, and they have produced a turnover on the opening sequence of plays in a drive 5 times. (total 27 "quick opponent drives) to which the eagles offense came on the field and got at least 1 first down or scored immediately 20 times. thats a pretty high % - 74%  (note this number it did NOT change this week)

the offense is giving the defense time to rest, the defense has just been horrible. Even on the quick scores, you have the extra point, 2 commercial breaks, and the kickoff in between.

the eagles offense has only gone 3-and-out 22 times. they've turned it over in less than 3 plays once.

i'd like to point out that jacksonville went 3 and out 0 times in the ALL the game.

for the first time since week 2, the eagles had two of the top 4 longest drives of the game, irony since this was probably the low point of this offense...maybe this entire decade.

not discounting the offenses terrible play for over the game. but this defense is still the most undisiplined, and most unclutch than i can remember in the past 8 years. they gave up scores in 2 of 4 second half drives, and another right after an eagle score.

this defense still can not stop anyone when it really matters.

on three losses this season, the defense has given up:
a 20 second, 20 yard losing drive
a 8 minute, 70 yard losing drive
a 9 minute, 80 yard losing drive

in 19 4th quarter/OT drives, the opponents gone 3-and-out 1 and scored 8 times


just updating numbers...
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I'll need the rest of the season to decide whether it is JJ or the personnel. Right now I'm leaning toward the personnel. The defensive line has been awful besides Cole. Kearse wouldn't have mattered either to be honest, because it sucked last year with him. The key is the interior and our DTs farging blow. No pressure up the middle, no run stopping ability. Just getting manhandled.
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Magical_Retard

where are the 2 amazing lines who were subbing for each other and producing pressure?
Marge: I have someone who can help you!
Homer: Is it BATMAN!!??
Marge: No hes a scientist
Homer: Batman is a scientist.
Marge: Its not BATMAN!

Don Ho

"Well where does Jack Lord live, or Don Ho?  That's got to be a nice neighborhood"  Jack Singer(Nicholas Cage) in Honeymoon in Vegas.

Eagaholic

My take on why the team can't execute the pressure schemes they once did in part is because the league is catching up with the scheme. The trend I see is toward alot more 2 TE sets and max protect and 3 step drops that dare you to blitz away. I see alot of qb's who are either young or simply can't get past their second read anywaybefore they look to their check down (Donovan is one of them) so what's the point of sending out 4 wideouts if a qb only looks at 2 then a dump off or take off running? Might as well keep a couple of more in and protect, and neutralize the blitz.

It seems to me it is more common now to see delayed TE releases and backs releasing off a chip block after blitz protection is secured (and therefore more zone blitzing to shut down these shorter routes). It's still not uncommon to see bunch formations or the use of four wides to spread out a D, but we're out of the Mike Martz type crazy passing era where JJ style of good corners and blitzing worked optimally (if it wasn't for Troy Vincent's pulled groin muscle when playing the Rams in the NFCCG, I really believe the Birds have a ring).

PhillyPhreak54

The Eagles are going to see 3 steps and runs until they can prove they can stop them. They have to learn how to "mush rush" better so when they know they won't get there on 3 step drops they can clog the passing lanes and swat balls down.

If any OC runs 7 step drops against this D he should be fired because Payton put it on film on how to beat this team (actually Eli and the Jints in the 4th & OT started it) and TB and JAX followed up.