2009 Philadelphia Phillies - Season's Over, Time to Move On

[Geowhizzer]

One of those nights.  A no-name, borderline major-leaguer had the Phils number again.

[Don Ho]

That was not strike three.  Raul got hosed.

[Sgt PSN]

Raul got hosed.

so did cleveland.  so consider all things even in the universe again.

[Don Ho]

Phils better not get hosed on this review.

Where the hell was this crew on Dobbs HR against Boston?

[phillymic2000]

Worst trade in history.

Tell me about it, not only is this the worst world series champion team in history, they traded for a the worst Al Cy young winner ever, this is worstest then sarge raping the rams helmet back in 2004, and that was clearly the worst thing these eyes have seen

[Sgt PSN]

Worst trade in history.

Tell me about it, not only is this the worst world series champion team in history, they traded for a the worst Al Cy young winner ever, this is worstest then sarge raping the rams helmet back in 2004, and that was clearly the worst thing these eyes have seen

if you only knew how soft and moist the inside of that helmet was. 

[PhillyPhreak54]

Early indications were that they were leaning toward bumping J.A. Happ and Rodrigo Lopez to the bullpen to make room for Lee and Pedro. But they'd rather be sorting all that out than contemplating what their prospective October rotation might look like without Cliff Lee.

From Stark...

So lemme get this straight; they are considering bumping JA Happ, a guy who they would not trade to Toronto, to the bullpen?

So basically Kyle Drabek was the ultimate untouchable. Amaro better hope the hype is right with this dude.

Phreak, scuttlebutt is that the Phils offered the package they traded to Cleveland plus Happ to Toronto, and they wouldn't take it.

Don't know if Drabek was the lone sticking point.  I think they wanted him and Brown plus.

Seems like Riccardi was truthful all along that they wouldn't easily move Halladay.  We'll see in a couple of days.

I suppose if Amaro's information was right in the sense that LA was hot on Lee's trail, then they had to pull the trigger and not wait on Ricciardi to decide what he wanted to do or to try and work him down.

But I can't shake the fact that Halladay was available and the Phillies were the front runners and if the sticking point was Happ and Drabek they could not get it done.

All I'm saying is Drabek better be the real deal

[phillymic2000]

Worst trade in history.

Tell me about it, not only is this the worst world series champion team in history, they traded for a the worst Al Cy young winner ever, this is worstest then sarge raping the rams helmet back in 2004, and that was clearly the worst thing these eyes have seen

if you only knew how soft and moist the inside of that helmet was. 

From the way you were slapping it and calling out ATV's name, I really dont want to know

[Seabiscuit36]

I understand that Phreak, but they ended up getting a Cy Young pitcher for not even one of the top 4 prospects, where JP wanted all 4 of the top 4.  Riccardi screwed the pooch, and i'd love to see halladay go nowhere now. 

[ice grillin you]

All I'm saying is Drabek better be the real deal

theres such a small chance that drabek will be a number one its not even worth trying to figure out...hope hes a one but expect him to be a gavin floyd

[SD_Eagle5]

I understand that Phreak, but they ended up getting a Cy Young pitcher for not even one of the top 4 prospects, where JP wanted all 4 of the top 4.  Riccardi screwed the pooch, and i'd love to see halladay go nowhere now. 

I was fine with giving up Drabek, I just didn't want to give up Drabek, Brown, Taylor etc. If it had been say Drabek, Carrasco, Marson, Donald, you make that deal in a heartbeat. 

[ice grillin you]

i would have given up the entire system for halladay

but im happy with the lee deal

[SD_Eagle5]

Would you rather have:

Lee
Brown
Happ
Drabek

or

Halladay
Knapp
Carrasco
Marson
Donald

For me an ace and 3 top 25 prospects is the better package.

[PhillyGirl]

Was it just me, or did they look like they hit a wall last night? Like the west coast timezone thing? Swinging at terrible pitches all night long. Just didn't seem to be "in" it from the start.

[Sgt PSN]

Would you rather have:

Lee
Brown
Happ
Drabek

or

Halladay
Knapp
Carrasco
Marson
Donald

For me an ace and 3 top 25 prospects is the better package.

the phils still have what toronto wants.  too bad ownership doesn't realize that revenue will absolutely go through the roof if they'd find a way to pull the trigger on it.