2009 Philadelphia Phillies - Season's Over, Time to Move On

ice grillin you · July 29, 2009, 04:10:45 PM

since may 1 - 2.82 era

last 28 days

2.37 ERA
1.07 whip
.248 opp avg
4.17 k/bb
5.9 k/9
0.47 hr/9

not bad for the AL

Drunkmasterflex · July 29, 2009, 04:22:56 PM

Didn't Pedro say the other day that he wouldn't mind being in the pen?

phattymatty · July 29, 2009, 04:32:30 PM

if pedro's ok with going to the pen then that seems like an ideal situation for him. he's not going to give you more than a few good innings anyway, why not bring him in for middle relief. and then he's there as a backup starter for when moyer breaks his hip.

PhillyGirl · July 29, 2009, 05:05:16 PM

LOL I think Marcus Hayes had a crush on Halladay. He's talking about how great the prospects were that were traded away.

PhillyGirl · July 29, 2009, 05:05:46 PM

LOL also at Cliff Lee not giving up a walk since july 10th.

phattymatty · July 29, 2009, 05:08:59 PM

cliff lee threw this pitch...

rjs246 · July 29, 2009, 05:21:00 PM

How in the farg does a pitch hit you between the eyes? That's farging awesome.

QB Eagles · July 29, 2009, 05:42:11 PM

This trade rules. farg the Jays, the Phils got the reigning AL Cy Young winner for a song.

Eagles_Legendz · July 29, 2009, 05:52:42 PM

Cliff Lee has gone at least 6 innings giving up 3 or less runs in 15 of his last 18 starts.

Rome · July 29, 2009, 06:09:12 PM

Worst trade in history.

ice grillin you · July 29, 2009, 07:51:13 PM

Quote from: QB Eagles on July 29, 2009, 05:42:11 PM
the Phils got the reigning AL Cy Young winner for a song.

freak year

Rome · July 29, 2009, 08:01:35 PM

Think about this...

Hamels: Reigning World Series MVP

Cliff Lee: Reigning A.L. Cy Young Award Winner

Joe Blanton: Has pitched basically lights out the last two months.

Jay Z. Happ: Was undefeated until his last start. ERA under 3.00.

Jamie Moyer: Approaching 260 wins. Still capable of occasionally pitching a gem, although he'd be the first to go if push came to shove.

That is a formidable rotation, boys and girls. Plus they'll have a certain Hall of Famer ready to step in soon plus the wife-beater will be back in August. Oh, and their bullpen guys will all be back by then too.

The BIGSTUD · July 29, 2009, 08:09:19 PM

The only downside to this move is that it takes attention away from the great and busy offseason the Sixers have been having.

QB Eagles · July 29, 2009, 08:24:37 PM

Quote from: ice grillin you on July 29, 2009, 07:51:13 PM
Quote from: QB Eagles on July 29, 2009, 05:42:11 PM
the Phils got the reigning AL Cy Young winner for a song.

freak year

The same could have been said about Halladay at Lee's point in his career.

Through first 8 seasons (I calculated these quickly, so there could be a mistake or two):

Roy Halladay
ERA 3.71
W-L% .647
IP 1116.1
SO 810
BB 299

Cliff Lee (8th season still in progress)
ERA 4.02
W-L% .634
IP 1117.0
SO 826
BB 322

Halladay is definitely a better addition, but considering that the Phillies gave up 'Knapp & Crap' instead of touching Happ, Drabek, Taylor, Brown, and still got a great SP, I think this is a defensible move. They'll have the ammo to make another big move or two next year too, if they want to.

Eagles_Legendz · July 29, 2009, 09:09:26 PM

From Gammons:

"This next Indians generation will be built around Sizemore, Cabrera, Weglarz, LaPorta, Carlos Santana, Shin-Soo Choo, et al. When you are the Phillies, Yankees or Red Sox, you think about next year. When you're Cleveland or Tampa, you think, "next window." "

How sweet is it to be mentioned in a sentence like that?